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  • i'm german and i think it's nonetheless a shame. not rebelllious, immature

  • This cover sucks. The original theme song is a million times better. As for all the political comments here, I've only got one thing to say: Sieg Heil, motherfuckers!

  • ANARCHY!Punk not dead!Litle sisters .

  • I think the sawastikas are just for provocation, thats why some punks i knew wear it on their clothes

  • fuck skinheads

    

  • i hate polithic , i love get drunk, and i have my crew as my only care

  • very good

  • @804safety You just don't get it. The Nazis were a then-potent touchstone of rebellion and outrage for early punks, (e.g. the half-Jewish Ramones had a song called 'Im A Nazi', etc.), and that is punk history. WW2 was being exhaustively celebrated in film, book and on TV in the 1970s, and this was a legitimate artistic subversion, valid over 1976-77, then discarded when 'real' politics came in. BTW, for someone who's 'anti-fascist', you seem rather draconian about free expression...

  • @Slammerworm1 - I heard that it was the Sex Pistols' manager Malcolm McLaren who came up with the Sex Pistols' song "Belsen Was A Gas". McLaren was of jewish extraction.

  • @Slammerworm1 we in d had the antifascist rev and in alley-s countries the have chosen to be swasts. thats the easy explanation of a high discussed item. better shu up.

  • @axs007ful Please excuse me, but I don't understand your comment. Could you perhaps rephrase?

  • @804safety The swastika is a symbol which has been used in many cultures. I dare to say its not a nazi symbol at all. Its just claimed by them for a small period in time. There is nothing wrong having it on a t-shirt to shock people who think its wrong. Punk was partly intended to shock simple minded people. To create chaos and disorder and it seems it worked up till today. Just wiki-it if you like some background info on swastika's.

  • @804safety i really dislike guys like u!

  • @804safety shut up you lefty piece of shit and get life people like you make me puke you don,t know what your talking about people like you call anyone who does,nt agree with you a facist i saw the antifacists standing with muslims chanting allah akbah while the muslims shouted white scum fuck your mum couse the antifacists did,nt tell the muslims to stop the racism you stand behind the police calling the edl racists but don,t condemn homophobia from muslims your a wanker mate hypercrite.

  • @804safety

    Please, dont forget that the 3rd Reich stolen that sign also (like alot of other stuff).

    Plus they apllied it the wrong way ... to their own bad, I might add.

    So please, a Swastika isn't equal the "Hakenkreuz" (German for: Swastika of the Nazis)

    I can understand your concern, nobody wants those times back, at least noone of importance, but crying bloody murder everytime you feel aggressed, isn't helpfull either.

  • @CyberpunkJohnny - "Stole" it from who? Was the swastika someone's registered trademark?

  • @deadbirdsings The reverse image of a swastika have been a symbol of good luck to many many cultures for many centuries.

  • @MrMonsterstiffy do they really fix their mind and eyes on the swastika.

  • @804safety fuck off arse its just a shock tactic get a grip, its just to annoy the man

  • @804safety fuck off communist shit

  • Back in 77 the war was still very much in the minds of a lot of the parents and wearing a swastika was an ideal way to annoy and shame them...sad but true

  • Yeh, Siouxie and the swastika. A lot of punks wore them for shock value, anything that provoked disgust, shock or outrage was good and a despised image like that seemed to fit the bill, it was an obscene cuss word in one symbol. The hells angels had been using it for that purpose for nearly two decades by then. After mid 77 you'd rarely see em again since punk was getting political. And trendy.

  • @London2272 Yeah, I was a 14 year old in Hammersmith in 1977 and jumped on the bandwagon- it pissed the parents off and made the girls think I was dead hard- I didn't give a fuck about politics and the like- I was just one of thousands of posers who wanted to be different but became more the same.

    It was really about the rage working class youth had with the bullshit lives of pre-destined failure they were expected to endure- at least that's how I remember it at the time anyway

  • Swastikas => nothing alienates middle-class people more than to embrace what they dislike/hate/fear. It's just another way of saying FUCK YOU without any political meaning attached except to say: we are on the outside of your fucking system.

  • "the Nazi gear was a naive but legitimate reaction to mid-1970s fascist leaders, societal attitudes and the rock culture's rigid 'hippie' aesthetic" .......... Very well put slammerworm, i could not have put it better myself!.

  • @804safety To be fair, you've mixed up the 'non-PC' early punks with the later 'political' ones (like Crass). Siouxsie, Buzzcocks, Ramones, etc. mentioned neither anarchy nor freedom and the Sex Pistols' 'anarchy' was destruction plain and simple, not growing veggies on a commune. Too little space to fully explain here, but the Nazi gear was a naive but legitimate reaction to mid-1970s fascist leaders, societal attitudes and the rock culture's rigid 'hippie' aesthetic. Cheers from New Zealand!

  • @Slammerworm1 ABsolutely right- The pre-political punk was the real punk- and it was indescribably more exciting than the preachy self righteous stuff that stole the name punk 3 or 4 years after the fact- It got too serious by then and punks all dressed in the same uniform-- It's that uniform which still sticks when you see Spanish and French Camden Town replica punks today-

  • @keltyk 'First wave' punk rock was more interesting musically,too. Those early punks were influenced by everybody from the Velvets to Bowie to the Banana Splits and back again (hence the wide divergence of styles between the Ramones, Damned, Voidoids etcetera), whereas the musical gene-pool was a pretty shallow puddle by the time the likes of Conflict or GBH showed up. For the record, punk still exists as an attitude, but the form has lost currency. Christian punk? You gotta be kidding..

  • Actually, to be fair. 804safety is an idiot. The clture was built on the rebellion against a norm and against a system that lost the point years ago. Cheers from where ever. It doesn't matter.

  • @Redneck603 your the idiot ,nazism is an oppressive government & punk was supposed to be against society,government that oppress the poor,minorities ect,to be punk & nazi is a total contradictory & i laugh at all you stupid nazi punks....NAZI PUNKS FUCK-OFF....(AND YOU STUPID RACIST ,SISTER MOLESTING REDNECKS)

  • @804safety you fucking boring cunt get a life fuck some women get drunk stop worrying about fucking minorieties who are pissing everyone off with their whinning i remember life before all this politically correct shit it was a lot better for people the thought crime antiwhiteman brigade came out fuck leftwingers i allways kick one is see the red commie bastards.

  • @804safety the nazi uniforms were beautfull and powerfull with the black boots and an alsation dog with leftwingers grovelling on the floor begging don,t kill me i am sorry i was a red traitor.

  • @804safety

    yeah

    thats true

    because either they said

    ohh the real punks don't mind politics

    but wear a swastica it's a really ignorant and stupid thing

    maybe they know the mean of that shit

    but what was the fact to wear that things

    perhaps to be a punk

    it's necessary to be an idiot

  • @804safety the early punks wore swastikas to shock and piss people off , not because they had any nazi ideals . cheers also from canada

  • @804safety No sheit.. Cheers from Sweden punks.

  • @804safety The swastika was part of the provocative behaviour punks did. So yes they are anarchy. They just want to get the attention by doing those funny things. They are against society. And probably most america / Brittain were against Nazis back then. So it was just provocating. Awesome way to do it in my opinion.

  • @804safety You didn't get the idea of wearing swastikas on leather jackets back in the late 70s - it wasn't meant as a political statement, it was nothing but an effective way to provoke and reflect coeval perceptions.

  • @804safety just because somebody does,nt believe in your communistic leftwing bullshit does,nt make some a nazi theres more to life than antifacism,in england when the edl march 500 antifacists protest in a country of 70,000,000 so antifacism is of no interest when people are worried about there jobs so arseholes like you pretending its 1933 is stupid get a life.nazi are of no interest to but lefties make me puke rightwing i can ignore but the left are not loving their country enough.

  • @804safety Yes, smash those with different views!

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  • @804safety The antifascist bleat boring, and commonplace. The PC the prison of the thought and the art.

  • Thanks for "fixing it up" Slammerworm! You did a great job!

  • Well done!

  • Love the drums!

  • some really great pics - i still love siouxsie to this day!

  • Love the Track Rehearsals! Someone who have the second(KOK7) in red vinyl and want to sell? Or KK03 in black?

  • bad quality

  • You should have heard it BEFORE I fixed it up...

  • @TheChris2666 no it isn't.

  • nice to see and you have great pictures to

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