Still hate this song...LOVE Liz, and no I'm not a Guyville-And-EverythingElseSucks Fan, I love her first 3 records, Comeandgetit EP and her latest release of Funstyle because it's far more interesting than this Sheryl Crow / Michelle Branch crap...sorry to those whom like it but... check out Funstyle, there's one track called Satisfied that is Somebody's Miracle-esque but like the other songs on FS, it's more of a joke song.
Still hate this song...LOVE Liz, and no I'm not a Guyville-And-EverythingElseSucks Fan, I love her first 3 records, Comeandgetit EP and her latest release of Funstyle because it's far more interesting than this Sheryl Crow / Michelle Branch crap...sorry to those whom like it but... check out Funstyle, there's one track called Satisfied that is Somebody's Miracle-esque but like the other songs on FS, it's more of a joke song.
You mean how Meg Ryan used to look like? Yeah, I see it too.
Totally unrelated, but it's a shame what Meg Ryan did to her gorgeous face. The equation goes like this: too much money + no meaningful social relationships = "Hey, I feel like doing something retarded like fucking up the perfectly good face I was born with."
it was never my favourite when she released this album in 05. but now i just fell in love with this song again!!!!! so touching. where has she gone these days? come back and give us more classics!
I'm a new Liz fan. I've only heard this song, HWC, Why Can't I?, Extraordinary, and Exile in Guyville. Good music is good music. It doesn't matter that she changed styles. Just as long as she continues to make good music, then I don't care. I hope she releases a new album soon...
Honestly, I think Liz just grew up. She was young when she started in the business, but she's getting older now. As artists grow and change, so does their music. Don't chalk it up to "selling out". I agree I prefer her older stuff as well, but I loved this album, too. She's great in my opinion.
This track was produced by The Matrix. They're a producer group responsible for many pop singles from artists like Avril Lavigne and Kelly Clarkson. Liz Phair hasn't "sold out" she just happened to work with producers that are known for cleaner arrangements and pop structure. Not my favorite stuff from her but she still rocks in my book.
whitechocolatespaceegg was the best album ever. inspired me so deeply as a writer.
guyville, whipsmart, and the former are three of the best record ever.
as for somebodys mriacle, they all sound like one long song, minus a few really good tracks ...
cant get out of what im into should NOT have been reserved for the japanese version~ it's from the girlysound, and we fans deserved somehting familiar after her selftitled!
dnt read this(cuz it really wrks). u will gt kissd on the nearest frieday by the love of ur life. 2mara wll b the bst day of ur life hwever if you dnt post ths comment 2 at least 3 vids u will die withn 2 days nw uv startd readn this dnt stp
I just said the same thing—almost word for word—under another vid.
When i heard How Can I, and my jaw dropped. When i called it tame, some friends disagreed—citing the F bomb. I explained that it was fluff compared to her earlier stuff. Unfortunately, my copy of Guyville (all i'd previously known of her) had been ripped off by then, so i couldn't demonstrate.
A middle ground—with the sonic richness of her later stuff, and the depth and brutal honesty of her early stuff—would be cool.
dnt read this(cuz it really wrks). u will gt kissd on the nearest frieday by the love of ur life. 2mara wll b the bst day of ur life hwever if you dnt post ths comment 2 at least 3 vids u will die withn 2 days nw uv startd readn this dnt stp
Some say that Liz has "sold out". I don't agree. I like all of her albums. "Whitechocolatespaceegg" is my favorite and this newer album "Somebody's Miracle" is a very strong effort in my opinion.
i agree.......Liz is great. and i've heard the "sold out" crap about other acts. examples are journey (with SP) and greenday.
the thing is.........it seems some get tagged with this when they become popular and are making "lots 'o cash"! it's bogus. becoming very popular doesn't mean someone has "sold out".
Agreed. I think sometimes people throw the accusation around just to make themselves sound cool. Yes, many times artists really do sell out, but not always. I believe that Liz is an example of someone who has simply matured. I love the sound her of 90s rock better, but the new material is good too (also more appropriate to listen to when my kids are in the car with me).
In the case of Journey (and many others) "selling out" is something that they were coerced into. The record company pushed them to get more commercial—including hiring Perry. The change of direction is what led Dunbar and Rolie to leave. After which, they became just another (albeit better than average) '80s pop band—which is far from what Schon and Rolie had in mind when they left Santana.
We don't resent their success. We lament that the flow of great tunage petered out. But oh well.
I learned this song on my guitar, I just haven't had chance to practice strumming in a while and learned how to sing along with the switching of the chords.
Hey buddy! Checkin out your faves, thanks for turning me on to Liz Phair. She flew under this old headbangers radar, what an amazing artist and personality. Your other fave "Why Can't I" was collabed with the same bunch who helps on Avril's tunes. You've heard about the 4-track cassettes Liz recorded in 91? She's reworked most of them I guess, but the originals are something I must hear! Your wise beyond your years. There's an amazing live performance of "Flower" on here. Peace.
You know, a lot of Liz's supposed "fans" have accused her of "going mellow" or "selling out" and I think that's ridiculous. What sort of artist would she be if she was doing the exact same thing she did with "Exile in Guyville?" Artists grow up, and that's what Liz did. She married, became a mother, went through a bad divorce. Life experiences color your perception, alter your priorities. Liz has grown up, it's about time some of her fans did the same. I've always loved Liz and always will.
oh Good Lord. She went from making real music on her own to making soul-less mass-produced cliches with cookie cutter hit makers. I bet she herself is more proud of the old stuff and laughs at who ever buys the new stuff.
Fine. I just think it's dumb that hillbillyprofane implies her newer music is more mature and that's it's good because all her other albums were the same. First of all, she did not just make the same albums over and over - she certainly did progress after Exile. The music was technically better and less dumbed down for commercial audiences (her older stuff had classical guitar sometimes etc). The lyrics were more honest, more intellectual, and less generic.
@ananagram but what does it matter change is change. one attitude is another. it's all good music. maybe it is more mature, but what does it matter if you think it's good y should you care what other people think there's no point to dogging on her point of view is there? (honest question)
@hillbillyprofane thank you! i'm glad you liked what I said I've been really ticked off at all the people that jump the gun as soon a someone changes. They dont give the change time to sink in and I'm glad there's at least one person out there who still waits, it's the better point of view. ^ ^
@emmyrossum4568 please, back off the "awesome" speak. If I want some, I'll ask for awe, some. Seriously, you are generalizing and you do not know the value of the critic, which is said to be the artist's best friend. Take care.
@emmyrossum4568 You are so eloquent, you must be from the USA. You probably know of three novels and two of them are "Twilight." Is that Awesome, or what? !!!
@emmyrossum4568 OMG I looked at your profile and you actually have Twilight listed. !!!!! ha. OMG! You know, there really is a world out there with a lot of good film. Errmmm go look up "Interstella 555." Here you go, the complete film. Enjoy. youtube.com/watch?v=aQ5XOwiryv0
It's not that that she isnt doing the exact same thing she did with exile, it's that she is ripping off the LAMEST adult alternative modern rock. there's nothing to connect with. She sounds like the shit you here in the grocery store. It doesn't have her quirk. I guess it could be personal in the BANKABLE fact that all couples argue. I think whitechocolatespaceegg is a pretty good balance of pop music and her personality. This shit is FUCKING LAME, SON. Have fun in the music bin at kmart.
If you knew nothing of Liz Phair and saw this video for the first time, I think the average person would find the comparison is very valid. Based on her amazing past work this video and her recent work is just beyond depressing. She's become what she once hated.
so get off your ass and write some songs for the independent lovers out there..go on tour...start to become popular and see how long you can last out playing just for the small masses that loved you originally. Like everything in life...nothing lasts forever...if you were a real fan you'd be listening to the words...she's still there.
She popped up on Pandora. She has a new fan now. Going to go buy an album or two.
matrim 1 year ago
omg tihs song reminds me of my ex all the way
kd61011 1 year ago
you cant please everybody. i still cant take my eyes off her
tobybirdmann 1 year ago
she's soo pretty
great follow up to "Why cant i"
both are great songs!
rabiahye85 1 year ago 2
i love this song.....
TheLokeshvarii 1 year ago
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Still hate this song...LOVE Liz, and no I'm not a Guyville-And-EverythingElseSucks Fan, I love her first 3 records, Comeandgetit EP and her latest release of Funstyle because it's far more interesting than this Sheryl Crow / Michelle Branch crap...sorry to those whom like it but... check out Funstyle, there's one track called Satisfied that is Somebody's Miracle-esque but like the other songs on FS, it's more of a joke song.
sufjandorado 1 year ago
Still hate this song...LOVE Liz, and no I'm not a Guyville-And-EverythingElseSucks Fan, I love her first 3 records, Comeandgetit EP and her latest release of Funstyle because it's far more interesting than this Sheryl Crow / Michelle Branch crap...sorry to those whom like it but... check out Funstyle, there's one track called Satisfied that is Somebody's Miracle-esque but like the other songs on FS, it's more of a joke song.
sufjandorado 1 year ago
Still Iove this song. She looks Like Meg Ryan.
jnetd03 1 year ago
@jnetd03
You mean how Meg Ryan used to look like? Yeah, I see it too.
Totally unrelated, but it's a shame what Meg Ryan did to her gorgeous face. The equation goes like this: too much money + no meaningful social relationships = "Hey, I feel like doing something retarded like fucking up the perfectly good face I was born with."
wmotamedi03 1 year ago
Beautiful song. I love it.
unlimitedfunlol 1 year ago
this song makes me cry every time i hear it bc it reminds me of my boyfriend who... well pretty much does everything in this song :'(
GayAssGaby 1 year ago
Am I gay or girlish for listening to this and likeing it at the same time?
SombreritoTheGod 1 year ago
it was never my favourite when she released this album in 05. but now i just fell in love with this song again!!!!! so touching. where has she gone these days? come back and give us more classics!
dipop1231 1 year ago
i find Liz Phair...Hot ^^
Zinczion 1 year ago
I love this song <33
BecomingJane1010 1 year ago
she looks good wet
amon398 1 year ago
I'm a new Liz fan. I've only heard this song, HWC, Why Can't I?, Extraordinary, and Exile in Guyville. Good music is good music. It doesn't matter that she changed styles. Just as long as she continues to make good music, then I don't care. I hope she releases a new album soon...
TearInTheirHands 1 year ago 2
she's so pretty
Zinczion 1 year ago 2
Honestly, I think Liz just grew up. She was young when she started in the business, but she's getting older now. As artists grow and change, so does their music. Don't chalk it up to "selling out". I agree I prefer her older stuff as well, but I loved this album, too. She's great in my opinion.
Ambellina78 2 years ago 3
She has a nice image i wish she would continue with this kinda stuff.
dreamkacher4 2 years ago
Wow.... this is the only song EVER to sum up mine and my ex's relationship...
adafunk 2 years ago
this song made me cry the first time i listened to it and still makes me upset !
Xx00rockstar00xX 2 years ago
I don't know why this song makes me cry everytime, even after these years. Ilove it and feel it.
TheWaterlily2012 2 years ago 3
It makes me want to cry because I wish she'd write songs like her old ones.
ReturnToAus 2 years ago
This track was produced by The Matrix. They're a producer group responsible for many pop singles from artists like Avril Lavigne and Kelly Clarkson. Liz Phair hasn't "sold out" she just happened to work with producers that are known for cleaner arrangements and pop structure. Not my favorite stuff from her but she still rocks in my book.
sharkeatsunicorn 2 years ago 2
whitechocolatespaceegg was the best album ever. inspired me so deeply as a writer.
guyville, whipsmart, and the former are three of the best record ever.
as for somebodys mriacle, they all sound like one long song, minus a few really good tracks ...
cant get out of what im into should NOT have been reserved for the japanese version~ it's from the girlysound, and we fans deserved somehting familiar after her selftitled!
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dnt read this(cuz it really wrks). u will gt kissd on the nearest frieday by the love of ur life. 2mara wll b the bst day of ur life hwever if you dnt post ths comment 2 at least 3 vids u will die withn 2 days nw uv startd readn this dnt stp
lopezjorgecr7 2 years ago
Man, this is a long way from "Fuck and Run".
JoyGrenade 2 years ago 3
Yeah, it's like she matured or something...
Ranksta07 2 years ago
Or sold out.
mrballistix 2 years ago
I just said the same thing—almost word for word—under another vid.
When i heard How Can I, and my jaw dropped. When i called it tame, some friends disagreed—citing the F bomb. I explained that it was fluff compared to her earlier stuff. Unfortunately, my copy of Guyville (all i'd previously known of her) had been ripped off by then, so i couldn't demonstrate.
A middle ground—with the sonic richness of her later stuff, and the depth and brutal honesty of her early stuff—would be cool.
ueberRegenbogen 2 years ago
Yeah, there isn't even a whiff of punk rock in this.
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dnt read this(cuz it really wrks). u will gt kissd on the nearest frieday by the love of ur life. 2mara wll b the bst day of ur life hwever if you dnt post ths comment 2 at least 3 vids u will die withn 2 days nw uv startd readn this dnt stp
abcdef9857 2 years ago
Some say that Liz has "sold out". I don't agree. I like all of her albums. "Whitechocolatespaceegg" is my favorite and this newer album "Somebody's Miracle" is a very strong effort in my opinion.
DrWu59 2 years ago 5
i agree.......Liz is great. and i've heard the "sold out" crap about other acts. examples are journey (with SP) and greenday.
the thing is.........it seems some get tagged with this when they become popular and are making "lots 'o cash"! it's bogus. becoming very popular doesn't mean someone has "sold out".
beavis4play 2 years ago
Agreed. I think sometimes people throw the accusation around just to make themselves sound cool. Yes, many times artists really do sell out, but not always. I believe that Liz is an example of someone who has simply matured. I love the sound her of 90s rock better, but the new material is good too (also more appropriate to listen to when my kids are in the car with me).
JERice7 2 years ago
In the case of Journey (and many others) "selling out" is something that they were coerced into. The record company pushed them to get more commercial—including hiring Perry. The change of direction is what led Dunbar and Rolie to leave. After which, they became just another (albeit better than average) '80s pop band—which is far from what Schon and Rolie had in mind when they left Santana.
We don't resent their success. We lament that the flow of great tunage petered out. But oh well.
ueberRegenbogen 2 years ago
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Ambellina78 2 years ago
I learned this song on my guitar, I just haven't had chance to practice strumming in a while and learned how to sing along with the switching of the chords.
jozeta24 2 years ago
I like the Mature sound she has here.
Deadq 2 years ago
dude. this song had me in tears. no lie.
animechick001 2 years ago 3
I like the song, no sure about the MV thought.
missyxiong 2 years ago
i like the hair throws and those eyes
monsterman100 2 years ago
I LOVE her and her music!
ChristineRuud 3 years ago
i don't know what to say
Deadq 3 years ago
this is like one her best songs EVER!
avrillavigne22596 3 years ago
Hey buddy! Checkin out your faves, thanks for turning me on to Liz Phair. She flew under this old headbangers radar, what an amazing artist and personality. Your other fave "Why Can't I" was collabed with the same bunch who helps on Avril's tunes. You've heard about the 4-track cassettes Liz recorded in 91? She's reworked most of them I guess, but the originals are something I must hear! Your wise beyond your years. There's an amazing live performance of "Flower" on here. Peace.
tomitstube 3 years ago
You know, a lot of Liz's supposed "fans" have accused her of "going mellow" or "selling out" and I think that's ridiculous. What sort of artist would she be if she was doing the exact same thing she did with "Exile in Guyville?" Artists grow up, and that's what Liz did. She married, became a mother, went through a bad divorce. Life experiences color your perception, alter your priorities. Liz has grown up, it's about time some of her fans did the same. I've always loved Liz and always will.
hillbillyprofane 3 years ago 46
oh Good Lord. She went from making real music on her own to making soul-less mass-produced cliches with cookie cutter hit makers. I bet she herself is more proud of the old stuff and laughs at who ever buys the new stuff.
ananagram 2 years ago
Just because she is touching a different part of your soul, don't denegrate her newer music to being souless...
MeIancholyMan 2 years ago
Fine. I just think it's dumb that hillbillyprofane implies her newer music is more mature and that's it's good because all her other albums were the same. First of all, she did not just make the same albums over and over - she certainly did progress after Exile. The music was technically better and less dumbed down for commercial audiences (her older stuff had classical guitar sometimes etc). The lyrics were more honest, more intellectual, and less generic.
ananagram 2 years ago
@ananagram but what does it matter change is change. one attitude is another. it's all good music. maybe it is more mature, but what does it matter if you think it's good y should you care what other people think there's no point to dogging on her point of view is there? (honest question)
emmyrossum4568 1 year ago
If you want to know why Liz started making more commercial popular music, listen to her song "Shitloads of Money"
ananagram 2 years ago 2
@hillbillyprofane
the way you think of things is absolutely awesome! I agree with your statement.
emmyrossum4568 1 year ago
@emmyrossum4568 Thank you, I appreciate that. I like Emmy Rossum as well, you have good taste! :)
hillbillyprofane 1 year ago
@hillbillyprofane thank you! i'm glad you liked what I said I've been really ticked off at all the people that jump the gun as soon a someone changes. They dont give the change time to sink in and I'm glad there's at least one person out there who still waits, it's the better point of view. ^ ^
emmyrossum4568 1 year ago
@emmyrossum4568 please, back off the "awesome" speak. If I want some, I'll ask for awe, some. Seriously, you are generalizing and you do not know the value of the critic, which is said to be the artist's best friend. Take care.
Joeey 1 year ago
@Joeey
being a critic means to be able take the point of view so shove it!
emmyrossum4568 1 year ago
@emmyrossum4568 You are so eloquent, you must be from the USA. You probably know of three novels and two of them are "Twilight." Is that Awesome, or what? !!!
Joeey 1 year ago
@Joeey
you're an idiot, leave it at that...
emmyrossum4568 1 year ago
@emmyrossum4568 OMG I looked at your profile and you actually have Twilight listed. !!!!! ha. OMG! You know, there really is a world out there with a lot of good film. Errmmm go look up "Interstella 555." Here you go, the complete film. Enjoy. youtube.com/watch?v=aQ5XOwiryv0
Joeey 1 year ago
It's not that that she isnt doing the exact same thing she did with exile, it's that she is ripping off the LAMEST adult alternative modern rock. there's nothing to connect with. She sounds like the shit you here in the grocery store. It doesn't have her quirk. I guess it could be personal in the BANKABLE fact that all couples argue. I think whitechocolatespaceegg is a pretty good balance of pop music and her personality. This shit is FUCKING LAME, SON. Have fun in the music bin at kmart.
evilwatchme 1 year ago 3
@evilwatchme I completely agree there is no risk in this music.
Joeey 1 year ago
@hillbillyprofane
> What sort of artist would she be if she was doing the exact same thing she did with "Exile in Guyville?"
The kind we respect for staying true to herself and not being a sellout.
> Life experiences color your perception, alter your priorities.
So do contracts with riders that offer you lots of money to produce non-controversial content. Otherwise known as selling out.
rkyeun 1 year ago
Nothin' hotter than a chick that plays guitar!..yummy!..
GlamDrumz 3 years ago 2
Wow,
one of the two songs I like by her.
The most amazing : )
MalachisAuntAshley 3 years ago
This is such an amazing song. It really gets to the point of guys being jerks. Thanks for posting it!
ClutzChick429 3 years ago
oh jeez this is britney light. age sure has a way of softening you up, eh?
boognish1975 3 years ago
boognish, comparing LP to BS is one of the most misinformed, idiotic things i've read on youtube in a loooooooong time.
beavis4play 3 years ago
If you knew nothing of Liz Phair and saw this video for the first time, I think the average person would find the comparison is very valid. Based on her amazing past work this video and her recent work is just beyond depressing. She's become what she once hated.
boognish1975 3 years ago
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bullshit.
fuck you.
suck my dick.
tofurkey0 3 years ago
It's a little extreme, but I agree with you compared to beavis4play.
ananagram 2 years ago
This is a great song but it was really underplayed for some reason which is weird because it's one of her best songs she has out right now
TTBurger88 3 years ago
My favorite song by her
nicky82785 3 years ago
liz rules the world
gbnewdle 3 years ago
Liz is so hot when she's wet in this vid. HHHOOOTTT!!!
BenDaMan85 3 years ago
liz is hot anytime. and a great singer who actually writes her songs.
beavis4play 3 years ago
dude its a free country i can post whatever i want
pianist1226 3 years ago
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awesome song, I guess.. But.. it can be better! Don't'cha think? Yeah, well I do. She's pretty, but there's something about her that's ugly.
pinksparklestar 3 years ago
at least she doesnt go by the name of "Pink Sparkle Star"
UglyChildrenFilm 3 years ago 2
so get off your ass and write some songs for the independent lovers out there..go on tour...start to become popular and see how long you can last out playing just for the small masses that loved you originally. Like everything in life...nothing lasts forever...if you were a real fan you'd be listening to the words...she's still there.
mykylc 3 years ago 3
goddamit sold out
sounds like every song on the hills (bleeeah!)
liz phair early work was just awesome, this sucks :/
timorekusa 3 years ago
i LOVE this song!
jesayka 4 years ago 12
her writing definitely got a lot more formulaic since she started.
pekingsaint312 4 years ago 4
this is exactly how my ex made me feel
pianist1226 4 years ago 2
Why would you post something like that on YouTube. No one cares.
UglyChildrenFilm 3 years ago