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  • dam i said yes with frog and i defeated him, didn t know that when you said no and you leave you could get him

  • I think it was a good thing that I liked Magus so much that I didn't want to fight him. Frog looks better as a frog, so why should I want to break his curse and kill Magus? Also, it's not like there is a real reason to avenge Cyrus, since Magus just defended himself, it's not like he ASKED Cyrus to come and try to kill him. And without Magus, Frog would still be this pathetic wimp he was before he was cursed. And Magus and the team always wanted the same thing: Destroy Lavos. So why fight him?

  • Crap killed him with frog solo oops lol..

  • FOR EVERYONE ASKING IF YoU CAN RECRUIT HIM AFTER FIGHTING WITH FROG

    No, you cant, to recruit you either fight him w/o Frog OR just say No

  • or you could just not fight him, I had frog marle and robo in my party and he joined us when I refused him

  • I fought Magus the first time I got to this scene when I was 8 because I was pissed off about him insulting Crono, and after I killed him, my immediate reaction was to reset and do this scene the right way, not even knowing that he was a recruitable character at the time.

  • how do u beat him with frog alone?

  • 1:30 Ayla should have thrown him off the cliff.

  • if you want to get magus, when he asks if you want to fight him, say no and start to leave. he will saqy wait before you leave and ask to join you

  • in newgame+ do you start with all the caritors or do you need to reget them

  • @animedude752 You have to get them again. But they keep their stats and equipment, and you keep all items except I think all the key items. The only exception to this I can think of off-hand is that if you had Frog equipped with the Masamune, he'll have the default Iron Blade when you get him in New Game+.

  • why did you run the fight so SLOWLY

    i was quite boring fight

  • That would be bad ass if all 3 characters died and you had to continue the game with Magus alone. Then you can have him join up with his two chronies Slash and Flea!

  • So...Can I get Magus on my team if I beat him with Frog?

  • let lucca do something or she might as well stay back in the kitchen

  • Represent the gray menu screen!!

  • so like.. not to be an ass or anything.. but your tactics, among other things in this fight are highly flawed.. you use items that you really don't need too.. and you waste soooo many turns for lucca.. I understand powering him down probably wasn't your intention.. but magus should be a joke at this point in the game, he's not supposed to be difficult here, as many people said.. Frog can solo him without trouble

  • this is better tha FF

  • I did that, too. I really think Magus is cool and all, but I still felt like I had to kill him. you know, for honor and crap.

  • Fuck this, what kinda bitch thought: Hey, if someones smart enough to say he don't wanna fight him, he will get Magus in his team!

    This sucks badly. Damn.

  • 3:22 its sad because the amulet was the only thig magus had left of his sister

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  • i have only one word to say..........CRAP!!!

  • Dammit! So thats how you get Magus! I said yesDX

  • I didn't like it when he was going easy like that-_- He's way stronger in maguses keep.

  • How did you get all three to fight? I always wound up in a one on one fight: Frog vs Magus, Marle vs Magus, even Lucca vs Magus.

  • It is. It took me three tries.

    Thing is, he is pretty easy at first, an easy slaughter, but then he gets nasty as his wait time shrinks down to nearly nothing as he casts spells on you.

  • i did that on my first run . . wasnt that hard o__o

  • oh and 7 ayla and 6 lucca

  • 1.Frog

    2.crono

    3.magus

    4.marle

    5.robo

    6.ayla

  • This game is better than zelda

  • wat if i fougth him with frog? u cant get him as a team mate after that?

  • I played a different way. I had Frog as my leader so I had to battle Magus alone.

  • Where's Crono?

  • He's dead. He died trying to battle Lavos.

  • I get the picture. I played through to that part, the way he dematerializes is kinda cool. 5/5 :)

  • Magus is badass dont know why would u kill him other then to get his item amulet. After u find out about his past you cant help but sentataze with him alittle. :)

  • Sentataze? Do you mean "sympathize" or "empathize"?

  • I mean sympathize, kinda sad how his life was runed by Lavos , yknow :)

  • uhmm i fought magus with frog and i didnt get him =O so is there another way i can recruit magus? :/

  • No have Frog in your party.

  • thanks :]

  • @Akutare why no crono

  • @ian3650n64 He doesn't have Crono because of *spoilers*.

  • @IsaacGuitarist Refuse to fight him?...

  • @IsaacGuitarist tbh,he tricked you Akutare.... get anyone and go to magus when he says you wish to fight me click no walk out the exit but then he interrupt's you and he joins your party.

  • @IsaacGuitarist you have to let him live the when you are about to go he'll join

  • I think it's more epic to fight Magus with Frog only and defeating him and not having him in your party....because, I dunno, Magus feels kinda out of place on some scenes.....

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  • Because the Magus you "kill" in that time is actually the Magus you fight in 600 A.D. and killing that magus would not affect anything, but on the other hand, if they had killed young Janus isntead, then, Cyrus wouldn't be dead....

  • Look, the game has a lot of unfulfilled paradoxes. I don't think the SNES cartridge would have had enough memory to create a game where everything you did in CT would have a that dramatic of an impact on everything else...

  • 3:08 "Defeat me, and you will break the curse on frog", But if Magus dies, Frog's curse did not break :o wtf

  • thats cuz the curse doesn't come of until the ending... lame i know but true

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  • @RadicalDreamer777 I heard that if you killed Magus Frog is a human at the end of the game. (Never seen him human because never killed Magus)

  • lolol you can actually rename magus

  • magus is way worth it to keep he is a badass

  • lol, it looks funny when Ayla picks up and throws Magus

  • *Gulp* So if I have to complete the bestiary I have to kill Magus?

    (DS version btw)

  • I'd think that you fighting him before hand would count towards that...

  • what the hell? when i fought him on the hill (second time through game) only frog was allowed to fight. P.S. he got owned

  • This scene is the only thing that comes as close to Fire Emblem. Warning, if you fight and kill Magus, you will never see him again even if you had a time machine.

  • so there's no way to ever get him again? does it alter anything important?

  • Nope, there's not other way to get him afterwards, from what I know of. If you actually kill him, and you've done almost all side quests, etc, you'll get a better ending compared to if you did have him(since he was on the evil side to begin with). However, if you make him join you, and you beat Lavos with ONLY Magus(I mean totally solo), you'll get an even better ending! Pretty hard to do my friend, but possible.

  • Don't you mean solo with Crono? I've seen a hack out there with Magus replacing Crono, but you can't do that in a standard game.

    The ending from a solo is pretty cool, with all these developers represented by game characters complaining about how hard making games is and telling you to get a life. :D (Also FYI, you don't REALLY need to solo for that ending, as Marle will come with you before you talk with Lucca at the teleporters.)

  • "i´lll come with you....wanna change my name?"

  • I chose to fight him and defeated him then saved my game and then I found out that you were NOT supposed to fight him and now I hate myself and this game.

  • Really who tightens a glove while hardass theme music warms up...

  • Magus is such a hardass...

  • after i had killed Magus with Frog solo (which by the way was increidibly easy) i later found out i could have recruited him, that was extremely disapointing :(

  • He's really not that great of a character, really. Everyone uses Chrono, and Magus can't use duel techs. Lucca pretty much hands down has Magus beat for duel tech compatibility, and has similar offense..

  • hoo i get to the peek

  • you don't have to fight him here

  • how do i get to that place

  • i killed him with frog in a solo....dang

  • My favorite characters are...

    1. Magus

    2. Crono

    3. Marle

    4. Ayla

    5. Frog

    6. Robo

    7. Lucca

  • I remember I recruited Magus by Accident xD

    I thought you go to that peek to fight him as an extra boss, when he asked "Do you wish to fight me?" I said no because he was the strongest Pre-Lavos Boss. then it turns out he joined me xD

  • Way to use those lapis'.

  • so magus is immortal :D

  • So if you defeated Magus, Is that mean you killed him?

  • no.

  • No otherwise glenn would of changed back to human for, and also i suspect that this dosnt happen in the game <_< being able to get magus after fighting him, i must see lol

  • dude if u hit no he would of joined ur team

  • OH WOW, REALLY??!!

  • mah bad i didnt look at the whole vid lol

  • I heard if you had frog in your party, you can fight Magus alone. At least thats what happened to me when I played.

  • Yah, that is true.

  • oh ok thanks. even if you were well not moronic enough to fight magus, but do decide to fight him, it would indeed be more epic to fight him with frog. you know to like avenge your friend's death and face him alone and let me tell you it was some what hard.

  • No problem. I own the orginal SNES version inc art format. I can VHS record the Magus vs Frog Battle if that is okay.

  • Sweet O:

  • Question. When you fight him with Frog only, does he have the fully powered up masamune? or do you get it sometime after the fight? Been 10 years since I played this game.

  • no the fully powered masume is in a side quest after all this fun stuff and before the end.

  • a question when you get magus and

    you get level 100(2 stars) and completed

    the game can you start the game whit

    the second new game* ?

  • to bad I never kill magus since hes always in my lead for the last boss fights its to funny killing the annoying three bosses everyone hates he has ties with

  • DANG i fought him (with frog alone but still did it in half the time u did) and i never knew u could get him as a member if u didnt fight!!!! isnt there another way???

  • Well for me Ayla doesn't die any more often than the next person (never). She has some nice dual techs and her 9999 critical hit with the Bronze Fist certainly comes in handy during boss battles. Her ability to charm also makes her a very valuable member. You can stockpile the best armor & helms for everybody and enough Megalixers to last till the rapture.

  • he comes equipped with the amulet anyways

  • that battle is way more epic with frog.

  • I usually add him because it's much better to have him on your team than having a stupid amulet that's totally worthless. Sure, it prevents status change, but at this point in the game, not attacks really change your status, or you're too strong to be affected. Also this battle was a piece of cake with Frog! It's harder with the others. And even with the others it's still a piece of cake!

  • Well you get the Amulet either way, so that's irrelevant. Late in the game you get armor and helmets that protect your status anyway (Nova armor/Prism Helm)... allowing you to make much better use of your accessory slot by means of a Frenzy/Rage Band or Prism Specs. I always add him too just to have everybody, but I don't use him often. He's my 2'nd least favorite character next to Marle. Avg. physical attack, no healing or dual techs. Not all that good IMO.

  • Every character actually can be pretty good, it depends on your level range. I actually a while ago got Marle to a higher level same range as my other characters, and she can prove to be one of yor better teammates, using strong physical attacks(I'm at a high level)and excellent healing abilities. As for Magus, he's probably my 2nd most used character, I find him very good, especially once he learns Dark Matter. Plus his triple techs are easily some of the best in the game. But Crono's the best.

  • I just find Marle to be pretty useless because Robo, Frog & Ayla have healing techs too (Slurp Kiss is great) and have better physical attacks and dual techs. You have to waste an accessory slot with a rock to use Magus' triple techs, which I don't like, and he has no dual techs or heals. Not very versatile IMO, but to each his/her own.

    Agree Chrono is the best, then I think Ayla, Frog & Robo are close with their own pro's & con's... then Lucca, then Magus, then Marle.

  • My order would probably be Crono, Magus, Frog, Robo, Marle, Lucca, and then Ayla. I'm actually not a big fan of her. For some reason people to seem to like her but she dies 24/7 with me. My char.s are high levels, but she's STILL low! I don't know why either!

  • Hard to believe any of your characters are dying at high levels with all the best equipment. All my characters are at level 99. Men wearing Haste Helms & Nova Armor and women with Prism Helms & Dress's. The only attack that can touch me is Hallation but then of course I counter with Frog Flare and a Megalixer :)

    My guys are pretty much invincible.

  • I know! That's what makes my Ayla so wierd...

  • btw is your "Arc" name a reference to Terranigma?... another fantastic RPG.

  • Oh, no. It was a story I was writing and my fav character I made was named Arc. By the way, Terranigma? Go on, I have never heard of this. Sounds intriging.

  • It's like a game that is apart of a wannabe zelda series. But they do pretty good and are pretty fun and memorable. It goes Soul Blazer, then Legend of Gaia(or something like that), and last Terranigma. They are all worth playing especially Soul Blazer, simple but addictive.

  • Oh! I've heard of that, they're pretty fun, I've played demos before. Except that third one. Soul Blazer and Gaia, yeah I've played demos in stores before.

  • Actually the Moon Armor is a step up from the Nova Armor...you can get it in the Hero's Grave. If you go to the middle ages and choose no when it asks to open the black box, then go to the present and open it...the Nova Armor will upgrade to the Moon Armor. If you didn't know this already...

  • The Nova Armor prevents status effects though, which is why I prefer it.

  • Yeah, but the Prism helm does the same thing, and 9+ magic def. So that's the best defense, almost 20+ magic def. and status locking from two items. Basically, it's the best total package defense going, and saves you from using up an accessory slot for Wall Ring or Flea Vest.

    But since I didn't know about the trick behind it, I ended up using two Nova Armors anyways.

    Ah well, at least the Nova Armors can be used by more characters.

  • Sure, but if you have the Prism Helm on you're not taking advantage of the "Haste" Helms. More attacks in a shorter amount of time = enemy annihilated before they can attack. Def. & Mag. Def. become irrelevant. I just use Rage Bandanna's or Prism Specs.

    Good offense = your best defense IMO. To each his/her own. That's how I prefer my party to be set up.

  • I forgot about the Haste Helms, but you're right.

    Come to think of it, I actually decked out Crono in a Haste Helm, Prism Specs, a Nova Armor, and his Rainbow Sword to solo Lavos on my Newgame+. All I needed was the occasional Barrior (For Lavo's ultimate lightning tech), and was good to go..

    So, I guess the Prism Helm never even went into the equation. ^_^;

    On the other hand, if you're using a Haste Helm, you'd probably want the Nova for the status protections over the Moon Armor, right?

  • Absolutely, and that's exactly the point I was making for the Nova over the Moon, the status protection. Bottom line, you want at least 1 piece of status protection equipment on everybody. Girls can't wear Nova Armor, so if you want them to have both Haste & Stat Prot. they need Haste Helms + Amulet. Of course in their case it's a matter of deciding whether Haste is better than a Prism Spec or Frenzy Band. If not, then you give them Prism Helm, Prism Dress then one of those 2 accessories.

  • I meant to say "Frenzy Bandanna" here, not Rage. I get them confused.

  • HEIL MAGUS

  • I like using Lucca's Protect. THen The enemies do almost half the damage.

  • i didnt know you could fight 3 on 1

    that would of made things easier but eh, it was fun fighting with just frog but pretty hard

  • Bah. This fight is so much better if you duel him 1v1 with Frog.

    And as cool as Magus is, I usually kill him for Cyrus. Yeah, he's the anti-hero who is more or less a victim of circumstance, but he still murdered somebody and justice must be served.

    Yeah, I'm a nerd.

  • play with history and get burned... nerd

  • I did exactly the same thing for the same reason ^^ Glenn would be proud I'm sure.

  • Magus is like my fave char...i wasted zeal, mammon, lavos, etc with just him

  • They should've made it to where IF you kill Magus, then Glenn should change immediately and be his human form in your party, and give him new techniques...that would've been one thing to add to Trigger

  • Yes, and that would give players more incentive to kill Magus than simply an amulet. Although, since Magus is by far my favorite character, I still wouldn't fight him. (Sorry Frog).

  • how do you change your party leader?

  • When Crono "dies" and your characters who later get captured by Zeal and thrown in prison. Hench why I had Ayla as my leader.

  • You didn't fight him with frog alone?

  • I'll do that in New Game Plus.

  • What happens if you fight him again? He just dies afterwards? I never tried it.

  • yep or dont fight then you can use him

  • Besides MAYBE Crono, Magus is the best all around character in the game.

  • Naw, Crono is all around better because magus needs his mp so much, but Crono has about 50% critical hit rate after you get rainbow specs.

  • Magus was a great part of the plot. Love the way they fooled you into that part of the journey. This game was pure awesomeness. Though Magus as a fighter on your side sucks.

  • The battle was fun to watch, but having him in the party seems the cooler of the two options.

  • He is in my party anyway. ^^ He does make battles a breeze also once you get him.

  • well that answers my question

  • easier the second time. Nice I wouldn't have fougt him though, oh well extra EXP.

  • By the way, can you try Pocky & Rocky 2 again?

  • I will. After CT.

  • I like the second way better.

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