West Papua - Australian TV commercial (2 minute version)

[q20010101]

the Aborigines in Australia never had a single vote asking for their opinion whether they like it to be part of British Empire, and now Australia..

They never get any "unfree" votes, let alone something like an "act of free choice".

I say give the aborigines their land back.

[poiuytrewq6641]

West Papua is belong to PAPUAN people, Free them for Democratic nations

Indonesia GET OUT from Papua !!

Indonesia is A TERRORIST MUSLIM country !!

MUSLIM hates & kills Westerns, Chirstians religions & West Papuan people!!

Over 3 millions West Papuan people have been killed by the Terrorist Muslim Indonesian !!

[pashaincubus]

stop provocating those 2 papuans guy

i pitty those 2 guys believing u australians

why dont u let the aborigins be free and go back to your homeland??

[indonpendatangharam]

FREE WEST PAPUA!!! indon can go to hell!

[rilham2new]

Dua bapak di atas pasti kalah PILKADA PAPUA makanya sakit hati terus lari ke AUSSIE, duh kekanak-kanakkan sekali kalau benar seperti itu :P

[ahocool]

UN = New York = USA = FREEPORT GOLD

They got money from it ...

we, indonesian has no benefit of west papua

since the money were corrupted ! SUCK ...

But as a nation must keep tighten our integrity since bitter memory of east timor lost. SO... no compromise of WEST PAPUA INDEPENDENT. TITIK...PERIOD !!!

[as2111]

same rights? my ass!!!.what you did to aborigin is same rights?.then just now kevin rudd do apologize after centuries. does any aborigin become australian president? in papua the governor of papua is local man and vote by local people and has the rights to build their area,dude!!!

[as2111]

free Aborigin first and back to UK all criminals then we talk about papua...

[auspete]

In Australia every citizen has the same rights. There are indigenous land rights and vastly improved conditions and incentives for indigenous Australians. Plus they are FREE to VOTE IN ELECTIONS and FLY THEIR FLAG!!! Now please do us all a favour and vacate West Papua. Leave the West Papuans to govern West Papua.

INDONESIA = CHINA

WEST PAPUA = TIBET

Merdeka.

[rilham2new]

Papuan indigeneous also free to vote in election. And the local governor is also indigenous papuans (actually).

[backpackerchef]

Aborigin asking right also for free...

[pashaincubus]

@auspete

stop saying indonesian word like "merdeka"

if u only say bad thing abouut us

[q20010101]

@auspete

yeah, free to vote in an election where they've already became a minority in their own land. can the aborigines votes to send the european invaders back to europe?

no? I guess so.

[rilham2new]

Referendum were done by UN body NOT Indonesian government back in 1960s ... How can these people swerve the facts...

[demarda]

yes, australia is afraid of indonesia!

[Arianto86]

shut up u australian!!!

never be a provocaotor!!!

firstable australian land is not white people land, it's suppose to aborigin people

well let's see when the aborgines gets his freedom from australian

[koekoe2001]

is aust afraid of indonesia?

[javajazz80]

Australia DON't MESS with INDONESIA!

You should support for human right BUT not SEPARATSM!

[javajazz80]

australia DON'T MESS with Indonesia!

[surya2324]

Well, take a look at the map, it is so clear, how the Australian wanted to capture Papua. Well, Sir, isn't that enough for you to get the Aborigin life. If we want to talk about justice or freedom, than free the aborigine, give the land back, and go back to England.

[edifier107]

look at this pathetic propaganda..the australians r brain washing them..the australians would get some benefit if west papua is independent,such as natural resources,and declining indonesia's economy..otherwise y would they bother..

[patrickdwyer90]

you are a moron! Get your history right!

[patrickdwyer90]

that was in reply to edifier107

[edifier107]

n u r the most fucked up bitch fucker patdickdryer90..

[potter0811664463]

its funny...

while u keep provocating these west papuans..

i will provocate the aborigines to get their freedom..lol..

i guess the west papuans are in better condition than the aborigines...

thats wat ive seen in aus

[UGIZ]

provocator and propaganda

[sanasinisenang]

Damn you AuShit!

You grab East Timor and made our brothers die in independence..

And now you make propaganda for west papua..

Stupid Bastard!

[Scarecrow15]

FUCK YOU CUNT!!! Fucking dont say shit about the Australian Military, we are working under the UN and the west papua asked for help.

[Karonl6]

west papua will be free soon

u devisl

[billisnowy]

West Papua is better off under Indonesian rule. Why don't you go back to your villages and build your homeland.

I reckon you guys waste your time for just wanting to be independence. You got your freedom already, Isn't Indonesia a free democratic country now?

[daniprasetyo]

i love indonesia country,,?

this video is provocator..

[wuysang]

Yo auspete,who are you actually man?i mean, Yea i gotta admitt that west papua were a place full of riots, but that was Years & Years ago man!things keep on going from good to better!check it by your self dude!there would be no conflicts there if there's no stupid provocoting propaganda like this one!

[ykarubaba]

Auspete, I've never seen any aborigine in Australian Parliament. Please give their right back, before you speak about human right in other country. Indonesia has Yoris Raweyay and other Papuan in Parliament. We have Freddy Numbery as one of our Ministry. Maybe you can pay other stupid Papuan in Australia to work for you, but not us.

[m4rs12]

WOW!!! That's right!!

I've never realized that indonesian parliament is more diverse than australian parliament!

Good luck on rebuilding Papua, ykarubaba!

My pray be with you!

[auspete]

The issues raised here continue today:

ABC News 02/12/2007, 09:28:58

More than 20 people were reportedly arrested in Indonesia's Papua as they

raised the outlawed "Morning Star" separatist flag.

A spokesman for the United Front of West Papuan People's Fight, says the

group was marking the anniversary of their declaration of independence.

Indonesia won sovereignty over Papua, formerly a Dutch colony, in 1969 after

a referendum widely seen as a sham.

[ykarubaba]

We will welcoming 1000 papuan from switzerland sooner. Indonesian gov. had granted them permit to come home. I can't wait to work with them to develop my beloved Papua. Let's develop Papua, say NO to separatism and Australian propaganga.

[dennis7091]

Good said..!

[kamprettos]

free aboriginese from systematically being demoted by australian govt . I've seen not single one aboriginese sitting in the aust parliament. Austpete, take a good look of your own backyard before talking about someone else's

this whole thing is just a blatant propaganda

[edifier107]

wat the fuck r u on bout auspete, in papua evryting is getting better, i was a volunteer to help the papuans, but the people of papua are the ones who commits corruption.

[billisnowy]

Indonesian government have spent billion to build schools, churces, bridges, and hospitals. Native Papuans as well as migrants from other Indonesian islands have lived in peace and prosperity for decades.

Now a small group of West Papuan aboriginal people want independence? DREAM ON MATES! You are better off under Indonesian established and civilised rule.

[auspete]

"A small group"? More like decimated due to Indonesian genocide. If West Papua is in such good shape, why does the Indonesian military dictatorship forbid access to international media? See the 3-part West Papuan documentary (links on the right) for the real story.

[ykarubaba]

Then why you Auspete, keep opposing what other people tell about real situation in Papua? Even from me, a native papuan. Why do you keep posting a propaganda and fake condition about Papua?

[moooooooo427]

@billisnowy @billisnowy no western media are allowed in "West Papua". Why do you think that is? There is and has been systematic genocide since the 1950s. In fact the Indonesian Army are paid bonuses for killing tribal leaders who actually have the courage to raise their voice and have an opinion and want to be free. Schools, churches, bridges and hospitals are for the relocated Indonesians. Indigenous people are NOT trusted and have limited access to these facilities if any access at all.

[etasiwo]

The world is always watching, God is watching, can a people ever stand tall and proud when they are dragging a brother along in chains?? In this day and age one has to wonder can a nation be that cursed!!

[ykarubaba]

Mau merah putih, bintang kejora, ungu bunga2, jigga putih biru, semua sama saja. Yang penting sekarang bagaimana torang bisa sama2 buat papua tambah baik dan maju. Kl cuma baku tuduh, mau sampai kapan juga tidak akan berhasil.

[95Passo]

Itu bukan merah putih

Itu bukan merah putih

Itu bintang kejora

Bintang kejora...

baru-baru kau bilang kau punya

Papua merdeka, Maluku Merdeka, Timor Merdeka

Hancurkan NKRI

NKRI dorang takut orang hitam

[utkonos313]

Not a single living Tasmanian voted to be part of Australia.

Indonesians and Papuans can live and work together peacefully.

[ykarubaba]

The message contains a deadly provocation. The messenger is the true voice of Papuan. We are happy with current development in the province of Papua.

[auspete]

Listen to the message, rather than concentrating on the messenger.

[tahutakwa]

ausie bullshiit you kill you kill your own people aborigine. from new yorker !!!!!

[gunjakarta]

I agree for more economic and social justice for native Papuan, they deserve to live free, peaceful and prosperous within Indonesia. Travel within the archipelago freely, work wherever they like. Today I saw Persipura Jayapura soccer team practice in Jakarta, and I proud to say that they are fellow Indonesians. Elie Aiboy is one of top Indonesian National Soccer Team forwarder, and he is a Papuan.

Down with separatism....!

[gunjakarta]

Separatists and their collaborators can kiss my sweet cute arse.... ;)

[gunjakarta]

West Papua is ours coz Indonesia is the republic, a sovereign country that her territory was the former Netherland Indies. The other half is not ours coz it's not part of former Netherlands Indies you dummy! So did East Timor (Portugal's) which the Indonesian occupation was the accident of history to avoid East Timor gone to communist. About Indonesian territorial unity, lots of country (including Australia) recognize this.

[m4rs12]

right, it's just a transfer from dutch east indies to indonesian gov't

[ykarubaba]

DON'T BE FOOLISHED BY THE AUSTRALIAN.

A REAL GENOCIDE IS HAPPENING IN AUSTRALIA. UNTILL NOW 2007!!!

CHECK THIS OUT AT YOUTUBE: "Aboriginal Genocide."

SORRY AUSTRALIAN, PAPUAN IS SMARTER THAN YOU THINK. YOUR PROPAGANDA WON'T WORK AT US.

I WANT THE WORLD KNOWS THAT TODAY'S CONDITION IN PAPUA IS REALLY PEACEFUL, AND LOTS OF DEVELOPMENTS ARE HAPPENING HERE. THIS ENTIRE JERK IS NO MORE THAN PROPAGANDA FROM THE AUSTRALIAN AND SMOE PAPUAN WHO RECEIVED MONEY FROM THEM.

[auspete]

As I've said before, the only propaganda is coming from yourself ykarubaba. Actually, more like disgusting lies. I don't know what right you have to say Papuans are smarter than Australians, when you are not a native Papuan yourself.

[ykarubaba]

As I recall, my family have lived in Papua for the last 700 years. And what give you right to state that Papuan people are disgusting, while you keep sucking our aborigine brother's blood.

[jozefthenu]

HANCURKAN!!!! NKRI!

[gunjakarta]

Don't fuk up the present peaceful condition by supporting selfish greedy separatist. Please do not open the separatist pandora's box and unleashed chaos in the region. Papua is OUR'S..... Papuan people are Indonesians.

[auspete]

Then please explain why WEST Papua should be yours, while the other half of the island is independent? West Papua is not a peaceful place. It is under siege by the Indonesian Army. If it were truly peaceful with nothing to hide, Indonesia would have no problem with journalists travelling there to do their jobs.

[catliat]

says he: "Australia, we desperately need your help"

says i: "Australia, please don't be involved in our internal conflict... respect our sovereignty and we will respect yours"

[jodybiben]

INDONESIAN ARMY IS THE BEST!!!!!!

[WongBusan]

This peoples have a dangerous dreams..

They want to see more West Papuan people die.

West Papuan is living in peaceful now.

[Nelsun5]

tuscanieee if you look at the film it says it was never the indonesian people it was and is the indonesian military.

and it was and is not only the indonesian military in papua but also in sulawesi,Maluku,kalimantan and was in East-Timor

[tuscanieee]

If you are not satisfied. blamed SUHARTO, do not blamed indonesian people. and please do not disturbed the past. ITS OVER OK ??

If you still count on the past. there will be no future for our relationship.

[kredainou]

There might be some mistreatments by the indonesian military. Still though, West Papua is Indonesia. Indonesians is a diversity nation. We respect every race in Indonesia. The thing is, that the corrupt government is treating the Papuans unfairly. I support for an improved West Papua, as one of the provinces of Indonesia. But not as a separate country. I am sure that things would change in a matter of time.

[masnur2000]

all about money??? "Laibun wa lahwu..."

[merlotdrill]

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[joetrance]

Christ is love, and is the based word of Human Right, ppl who has love, and love christ, love human rights. is not as same as barbaric ppl who dont know christ!!

amen.

GB Papua

[edmundfonataba]

so as PAPUAN we have to be more cooperate, i love my land i just have small peaces of my land, but i am really proud of it coz it belong to me from my ancestor!! so thanks for all ppl thats wants papuan to be the way they are, not to messed up with other ppl. i personaly wants papuan to be pure, with their culture, thats it, i dont need good westernbased economy, just be they way papuan are! for more information plz contact koteka group member, they has better explenation of this!!

[Petatas]

Who does the current development really benefit? The Ordinary people are still suffering. This is a justified struggle. Ingat tong pu penderitaan. Masih banyak yang perlu dilakukan terutama penegakkan keadilan for the families of those who were tortured, raped, and killed. There is still too much work that needs to be done.

[syowei]

Petatas, sa setuju sekali dengan ko pu pendapat. Orang2 Australia datang bikin kaco dan mau pecah belah torang saja. Lebih baik torang sekarang sama2 bersatu membangun Papua dengan cara damai. Semua org berhak utk hidup. Jd jgn ada lg penderitaan di Papua

[alhadiid]

I agree to ykarubaba and sirwallaby. People of Papua have to live peace and respect among them (Islam, Christianity, traditional people). Let we develop Papua with their special autonomy in Republic of Indonesia. Say no to centralistic govt. Do not let Canberra interfere. Do not let BHP, Freeport, other Aus mining co exploit. We (UN) have to support Aborigine self determination and help them from genocide from Australia repressive and apartheid government.

[alhadiid]

British (Australia) occupied the land of aborigine. It doesn't matter 200yr, you still invasive (allien) European species in the aborigine land. Australian government has opportunism foreign policy. You recognize (support) Israel that colonialism on Palestine in 1948, 1967 and NOW. On the other hand, you attack Indonesia for mining, oil and gas in Papua. (As well as Timor Leste case). Australian military violate Human Right of aborigine, Asian resident, and refugee.

[auspete]

British colonisation of Australia happened 200 years ago. How could that feasibly be reversed now? What is happening in Papua is happening NOW. It's a brilliant opportunity to learn from past mistakes and human rights violations and stop the destruction of a people and culture. Your argument falls down somewhat when you say 'particularly Australian military crime'.. lol.. you consider that greater than Indonesian military crime?

[ykarubaba]

Australia just settled that 200 years colonialisation in 2001 with questionable implementation. Auspete & other friends. I'm sure you did this argumentation because you love Papua. If we really talk about today & tomorrow. Please stop any kind of propaganda. Because we are (Papua) moving forward. Lots of development happen in Papua. Any propaganda may provoke us & hesitates our progress. Please open your heart. Listen to what Uskup Bello of EastTimor said below. Love u all. God bless.

[ykarubaba]

Australia just settled that 200 years colonialisation in 2001, with questionable implementation. Auspete & other friends. I'm sure you did this argumentation because you love Papua. If we really talk about today & tomorrow. Please stop any kind of propaganda. Because we are (Papua) moving forward. Lots of development happen in Papua. Any propaganda may provoke us & hesitates our progress. Please open your heart. Listen to what Uskup Bello of East Timor below. Love u all. God bless.

[alhadiid]

Australia is colonizer of Aborigine land. If you really democratic people, let aborigine people make self determination, their independence and their own sovereign state as their BASIC HUMAN RIGHT. Get off from the land of aborigine, back to your criminal historical family in England. All of Asian countries, such as Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, etc is native people in their land. We have to combat human right abuse by military in the world particularly Australian military crime in the world.

[sirwallaby]

seriously australia is becoming dumber and dumber by the day.i hope that austalia doesnt overestimate their power and try to do another east timor.

[auspete]

Dumb for what reason, stating the truth in a TV commercial so that the population at large becomes informed about Papuan human rights abuses? The last time I looked, standing up for human rights was not particularly "dumb".

[sirwallaby]

human right?what gives australia the right to interfere in another country's internal affair.if thats the case australia would be the first country guilty of human and civil right or is it bcoz bush gave australia da deputy badge they think they could interfere in any countries business.dont throw rocks if ur house is made out of glass australia human file is not dat impressive.

[collingwoodfan]

We are Australian. We have EVERY right to assert our authority over our region.

We are always asked to give everyone money, but when we suggest something we get told not to.

Wallaby, wake up to yourself.

[sirwallaby]

this is the arrogance thats going to bring australia down mark my word.u give indonesia 1 billion dollars for tsunami relief but average ppl like u dont reliase that if indonesia put their middle finger up australia would lose 30 billion dollars a year.dont think too narrow and stop watchin and believin what da news tell u.austalia needs da good will of its neighbours more than u think.

[alhadiid]

Dirty bloddy rebellion. You just a puppet of Australia who want interfere Indonesian state integrity territory. Australia provoke to occupied Timor Leste. Now because Australian want exploit massive Oil and Gas in Timor Gap, you use "human rights" issue. Look yourself, Australia do very dirty and bad to Asian resident and refugee in Australia.

[auspete]

Clearly you have not seen how many Asian immigrants there are in Australia. And if you want to talk about integrity, Indonesia has absolutely no right to squat and leech off Papua. An "election" by representatives under threat of physical violence does not constitute democracy. Get out and let the Papuans rule their own roost. To claim they are incapable is a grave insult.

[ykarubaba]

Based upon Uskup Belo of East Timor's (ET) testimony on March 2007. A massive killing in ET happened when Indonesia declared ET Independence, and split ET becomes 2 opponents. Base on expert meeting in Berlin, Special Autonomy is the best way solve Papuan problem to peacefully. In Papua itself, several developments are happening, in Jayapura (Uncen), housing in Puncak Jaya, Biak (school), a democratic election in Sorong 2007, & many more

[auspete]

What's being done about indigenous health issues?

[auspete]

Your "truth" is that I personally want to see bloodshed and war. Your assertions are reprehensible. No one wants to see a free West Papua more than I do, but there is no possible way it will happen under Indonesian military rule, especially whilst foreign journalists are forbidden access. Since I have momentarily lifted the ban on you, please explain to us how WP is "moving forward" when there is no international journalistic access and indigenous Papuans are harrassed, silenced and killed?

[ykarubaba]

Before I explain about no international journalist and the progress in Papua. Could you explain why are you silenced and ban other voices? Of course you want to see a free west Papuan. Becuase we the one who died for it, & you the one who get benefit from it. Brother, we are not stupid. I'm sorry if it looks hars, but no one should die for this.

[auspete]

And that includes your aliases.

[auspete]

That is a disgusting and ludicrous assertion. Any further comments from you will be removed.

[ykarubaba]

Why Auspete! I thought you the one who tries to speak about democracy & freedom. And now you force me to shut up because I'm telling you the truth? If my Papuan voice is an assertion, than what should we say to your provocation on this propaganda news? Auspete, I just want a peace in Papua. And we are moving forward, please open your heart.

[ykarubaba]

Auspete, I've seen people like you before. The one who really happy to see other's blood & take advantage from it. We're the Papuan who will suffer from every war you provoke. After you settled an intolerance agreement with that poor aborigine, now you go after us, the Papuan. Yudhoyono did settle peace in Aceh. And he tries to set peace once again in Papua, unless people like you prevent it. People who hate peace & sold others blood for your own benefit.

[auspete]

What you're pleading for is just painting over the cracks. Unfortunately the Indonesian government knows nothing other than military rule. There needs to be a major overhaul of the Indonesian feudal government system for any form of Indonesian government in Papua to be palatable. Any "change" since Yudhoyono is simply talk. Yudhoyono is a military man, just like the others before him.

[ykarubaba]

If any of Indonesian officer read this. Please let my brother Runawery and other Papuan people going home, as you did to GAM in Aceh. Let us forgive & forget and together hand in hand develop Papua. Mr. Yudhoyono, you are a great man. I believe you will open your heart on this. We are living for today and tomorrow. Let us make a better tomorrow for our children.

[auspete]

The worst kind of propaganda is coming from you, Ykarubaba. If Clemens Runawery even set foot inside West Papua he would be killed by the Indonesian military. Maybe not immediately, maybe invited along to a meeting and poisoned - their favourite means of "despatching" their enemies. If you believe Clemens Runawery is overdramatising West Papua, you are not only spreading lies but insulting a great man at the same time. West Papua will NEVER be free to develop under Indonesian Military rule.

[ykarubaba]

Mr. Runawery, I believe I'm your relative. We never need Australian's help. We able to reconciliate ourselves. We are moving forward now. Please open your heart, this propaganda just hesitates our development. Don't be foolish by them. Come home & develop Papua together. We will be the victim of this war. Not them. I love you, I love Papua.

[auspete]

The US and the UN are both to blame for the current human rights disaster in West Papua. You can be sure Freeport and West Papua's other riches, together with the UN's links to the US, are without a doubt the reason the UN turned a blind eye to the appalling Act of Free Choice.

[indulf]

Freeport/Rio Tinto operates the largest copper and gold mining enterprise in the world in West Papua. Freeport signed its contract with the Indonesian government in 1967, two years before the 'Act of 'Free' Choice'. Henry Kissinger has links to Freeport.

[awnton1]

Indonesians need not be liberated by Australians, what West Papuans? We are all Indonesians. This is clearly an act of supporting succession from a sovereign country. Get off our back damn it!

[indulf]

There is foreign interference in Indonesia which is not always helpful. Big countries have a habit of interfering in small countries. Kissinger has had a big impact on Indonesia.