@GraceAlone71 I totally get what unschooling is. However, life isn't about always getting to do what you want. I once had the misfortune of having an employee who thought he got to choose every project he worked on and what hours he would work. (He didn't last.) I'm not advocating that every child get military-school discipline, but unschooling seems to cater to the egos of parents who don't want to stifle Jr's creativity, lest they stifle a budding Steve Jobs, which is ridiculous.
Jew Jew Chang has no idea as to what she's talking about. Public schools today are far-left indoctrination centers and leftists like her want to use the compulsory schooling system to indoctrinate kids with their backwards, third-world ideology.
These parents are as bad as the ones who won't tell anyone their baby's gender and let it "decide" how it wants to define itself. Also, they're total ingrates who don't appreciate that they live in a state (Mass) w/arguably the best public schools & highest test scores of any of the 50. Unfortunately, plenty of unschoolers masquerade as homeschoolers. By jr high, unless your child is enrolled in accredited distance learning courses, he shouldn't get any credit for his supposed "homeschooling."
@albertinamel I'm not from Mass but I'm happy to hear that it has a wonderful PS system for those who choose to put their kids in PS. The thing is not everyone learns the same way and PS isn't for everyone. Not everyone learns best from a curriculum or from someone standing in front of them "teaching". In fact most of the learning that takes place in PS is just long enough to pass a test, and then it's off to something else.
@albertinamel In unschooling the child gets to explore their own interests at their own pace whether it be in music, art, history or science. They get a chance to learn what it means to read for pleasure, and not have to force themselves to finish a book so they can then write a report on it.
I'm so glad and very thankful that I live in a country that (for the moment) allows the parents to be the parents and choose the educational avenue they feel is best for their kids.
Ick. That reporter is being SO disgusting and cruel in her interactions with the teens.
Now that I am older I am horrified by how I, and friends of mine were treated by 'adults' as homeschoolers/unschoolers. Gross. It makes me sick to watch this. I remember SO many people making me feel worthless and pointless as a little girl of 6 and up.
I perfectly understand( because that first was my reaction) that unschooling first raise suspission and fear for the children's futur.
But the fact is there is no question about it working or not! We already know the futur of many having folloed the same path and the result astonishingly is great!
There are some famous people but also many unknown persons who have been unschooled and went to college at 14 (with great grades) or had very high score at sat at 18.
REAL journalism would seek several unschooling families, INCLUDING young adults who have grown out of unschooling and research how successful they are in their adult lives. This report only shows 2 families, including one without any structure (which is not the way all unschoolers go about) and basically ridicules and ostracize them without really learning about their lifestyle.
This in not real reporting, it's just knee-jerk, anectodal judgement dished out by some anchorwoman.
I found my own interests and now I'm a computer addict. That guy had that bike on World of Warcraft (I haven't played in a while but it certainly is something you get far in). If he's anything like me, but doesn't go to school at all, he's pretty screwed.
ok listen to all you people. Stop ur hating on each other and that family. I agree with them but i also think dat they have taken this to too much of an extreme. I think that letting people pursue their intrests and talents is much better than forcing them to study something they hate. Take my friend for example he hated school, did bad in school. Now he aced his classes because he took classes in what he liked which was woodshop and autoclass. If u let people find what they like they'll succeed
& those are the kids that become our world's presidents / prime ministers. People that waste tax money on unwanted wars. These parents have no idea how much children in Iraq and Afghanistan would love to go to school , and only wish they had the oppuratunity to open a book and actually read. This is stupid. These people should be sent to any third world country !
Most television programs are written for people with an 8th grade education. So if they want their kids to stay at that level for the rest of their lives... then great.
JuJU didn't interview anyone in these families. She attacked and tried o intimidate and spoke in a very condescending manner to both the parents and the kids.
What I don't understand is why people are in such a tizzy over kids being unschooled!
If you choose to not unschool or home school your kids that is your business.
What gives the population at large the right to protest the act of home schooling or unschooling?
It no body's business but that of those families.
Because parents have a responsibility to their children, namely, that their children are equipped to function in society. If you have children and do not provide them with a proper framework for living (able to get a job, able to maintain a household, able to form and retain relationships, etc.), then you have failed your children! It's that simple. People do not have the right to raise their kids anyway they see fit because everyone belongs to a larger group named SOCIETY.
So essentially, the gist is, conform, shut up, stand in line and do as you're told so that as an individual with individual rights, you don't make the sheep of SOCIETY feel as though they need question if they have in fact done the "right" thing!
We have a nation of mindless followers who can barely get through the day without an instruction manual.
We as parents have the ultimate responsibility to rear children into adults who can think for themselves!
That's called the social contract. If you don't want to live in society, then fine. That means you are barred from utilizing public services (water, electricity, hospitals, police, fire department, etc.) and from interacting with any public citizens. This sort of life, while certainly restrictive, is not impossible to live. You have to remain on your own private property at all times and refrain from contacting anybody who lives in the public sphere. Feel free to live the dream!
You have with this and your previous statement, succinctly illuminated your complete and utter lack of understanding of the home/un-schooling process and life style. It is not a life of total isolation, far from it! It is a life wherein, children are allowed to THINK and not muddle about like a swam of socialist drones. The social contract of which you speak pertains to the non-impingement of the rights and freedoms of others in a society by one's self serving actions.
Furthermore, as pertaining to public services and the use thereof, if I pay my way, i.e. taxes, utilities, tariffs, etc. I am free to use that which I choose and not be banned from such use by the myopia of conformist fearful sheep.
these children are soo much different from all other kids................. but like, not really.
They have messy rooms, and watch TV, and don't like sports and play video games. It's not like these kis are super different from any other kid in highschool. However, i know two unschoolers, and one, 15, is very into art and henna, and makes money by going to events and doing henna tattoos. Another is very into cooking, and is probably one of the best cooks i have ever met, and works at a bakery
@wijse I'm liberal and I'm a physician. I don't know what you do for a living, but after my four years of undergraduate, I did another four years of medical school and then another five years of residency. I don't think I need to be "reschooled," thank you.
@wijse Actually, all of the unschoolers I know are ultra-conservative, religious fanatics who don't trust what they perceive to be the godless, unionized school district. They basically wish they could revert to "Little House on the Prairie" days. So this group of morons comprises more than just a bunch of flower children, though I'm sure they're well repesented, too. Stupidity crosses all party lines and political ideologies.
@piepwn >_> in high school you need to know the information from all of your years of high school to get good grades so you don't have to pay for college and get a scholarship so they can be successful in life, these kids will become homeless bums.
@KyuubiNaruto1337XD How about all those who are currently paying off student loans, are unemployed and homeless? Can we attribute this to their schooled education?
@hartneychevallier More like, these kids don't even have any education up until like 3rd grade.
all those students who are now paying off loans have a high school education and they just got their college education degree and now paying off what they owe and they have a job that fits their college degree.
these kids have nothing, the kid in this said he was taken out at 3rg grade and hes now 13, he doesn't have any spelling mastery, grammar, or vocabulary mastery.
Wow, well these kids will live with their parents forever. How will they get a job, who will hire them. how will they handle police when they bark out orders and they choose not to listen because there is no punishment, judgement or discipline. Good job parents you raised two children that will be a waste to society.
@bulrydrdan children living with their parents is seen as such a negative in our culture but in many other cultures it is the norm and probubly contributes to better mental health, less incidents of depression in young adults, less post partum depressions for moms, etc, etc.
@hartneychevallier a plus for these parents is their kids are unlikely to ship them off to some cold home for the elderly when they are old, seeing as the parents didnt send them away when they were children. A close knit family is essential for a successful and happy life.
@hartneychevallier - I believe your right, and in those cultures there is no progress. Name one that is a leader most or these children will not succeed in life. The inventors of the light bulb, telephone, TV, the car, the plane, the microwave name one that lived at home with there parents after they were an adult.
@DaveDoggOwns Your right I have no objective logical proof , but what I have is examples of people I know. And even though they are nice and good people that still live at home with their parents. They have no skills or motivation to get ahead. And would you like to live in a culture with no progress? Even though we have no obligation to it, I believe that it is in human nature to progress. Isn't that what all humans are going for to finally have Anarchism where everyone can govern themselves.
@bulrydrdan I would like to live in a culture that recognizes the right of individual to live the simple life rather than a life of slavery and self-sacrifice to some person's utopian ideal. I can enjoy all the materialist pleasures I want, but I would never dare claim anyone OUGHT to give me those pleasures by inventing new technology, being succesful in some dead-end career, etc.
@bulrydrdan And the cultures that show a lack of progress are precisely the cultures that do not treat their children with as much love and respect as does the West. The West and those cultures which you speak of are in two completely different philosophical/technoligical/moral paradigms. Your arguement against unschooling is similiar to the arguement against anarchism: "Somalia sucks ass!"
@bulrydrdan If we must attribute progress to isolating human beings from their families, putting strain on their relationships and ability to relate, causing a severe epidemic of depression seen worldwide in cultures that value this type of education system, then progress is a negative. Humans are more value than invention and the car, plane and microwave havent contributed all that much to the health of the earth.
@GraceAlone71 I totally get what unschooling is. However, life isn't about always getting to do what you want. I once had the misfortune of having an employee who thought he got to choose every project he worked on and what hours he would work. (He didn't last.) I'm not advocating that every child get military-school discipline, but unschooling seems to cater to the egos of parents who don't want to stifle Jr's creativity, lest they stifle a budding Steve Jobs, which is ridiculous.
albertinamel 1 month ago
Jew Jew Chang has no idea as to what she's talking about. Public schools today are far-left indoctrination centers and leftists like her want to use the compulsory schooling system to indoctrinate kids with their backwards, third-world ideology.
Meatza3000 2 months ago
This segment is so bias, these reporters are so ignorant as to how real learning begins.
GraceAlone71 5 months ago
P.S. Bring back the truant officers!
albertinamel 6 months ago
These parents are as bad as the ones who won't tell anyone their baby's gender and let it "decide" how it wants to define itself. Also, they're total ingrates who don't appreciate that they live in a state (Mass) w/arguably the best public schools & highest test scores of any of the 50. Unfortunately, plenty of unschoolers masquerade as homeschoolers. By jr high, unless your child is enrolled in accredited distance learning courses, he shouldn't get any credit for his supposed "homeschooling."
albertinamel 6 months ago
@albertinamel I'm not from Mass but I'm happy to hear that it has a wonderful PS system for those who choose to put their kids in PS. The thing is not everyone learns the same way and PS isn't for everyone. Not everyone learns best from a curriculum or from someone standing in front of them "teaching". In fact most of the learning that takes place in PS is just long enough to pass a test, and then it's off to something else.
GraceAlone71 5 months ago
@albertinamel In unschooling the child gets to explore their own interests at their own pace whether it be in music, art, history or science. They get a chance to learn what it means to read for pleasure, and not have to force themselves to finish a book so they can then write a report on it.
I'm so glad and very thankful that I live in a country that (for the moment) allows the parents to be the parents and choose the educational avenue they feel is best for their kids.
GraceAlone71 5 months ago
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Ick. That reporter is being SO disgusting and cruel in her interactions with the teens.
Now that I am older I am horrified by how I, and friends of mine were treated by 'adults' as homeschoolers/unschoolers. Gross. It makes me sick to watch this. I remember SO many people making me feel worthless and pointless as a little girl of 6 and up.
VickyVicVicx 7 months ago
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VickyVicVicx 7 months ago
That's great how they only use clips of them watching tv and fighting with swords...you can tell their opinions on it.
VickyVicVicx 7 months ago
McDonalds
Georgeqaws 10 months ago
The question may be "How the hell is it possible that it works?" but nobody can question the fact that it does work!
(Sorry for my english I'm french)
FFF2174 1 year ago
I perfectly understand( because that first was my reaction) that unschooling first raise suspission and fear for the children's futur.
But the fact is there is no question about it working or not! We already know the futur of many having folloed the same path and the result astonishingly is great!
There are some famous people but also many unknown persons who have been unschooled and went to college at 14 (with great grades) or had very high score at sat at 18.
FFF2174 1 year ago
REAL journalism would seek several unschooling families, INCLUDING young adults who have grown out of unschooling and research how successful they are in their adult lives. This report only shows 2 families, including one without any structure (which is not the way all unschoolers go about) and basically ridicules and ostracize them without really learning about their lifestyle.
This in not real reporting, it's just knee-jerk, anectodal judgement dished out by some anchorwoman.
Celestein 1 year ago 10
I found my own interests and now I'm a computer addict. That guy had that bike on World of Warcraft (I haven't played in a while but it certainly is something you get far in). If he's anything like me, but doesn't go to school at all, he's pretty screwed.
Gareth2Jones 1 year ago
ok listen to all you people. Stop ur hating on each other and that family. I agree with them but i also think dat they have taken this to too much of an extreme. I think that letting people pursue their intrests and talents is much better than forcing them to study something they hate. Take my friend for example he hated school, did bad in school. Now he aced his classes because he took classes in what he liked which was woodshop and autoclass. If u let people find what they like they'll succeed
vicky007coolgirl 1 year ago
what a cunt interview-er.
MattyMattThing 1 year ago
& those are the kids that become our world's presidents / prime ministers. People that waste tax money on unwanted wars. These parents have no idea how much children in Iraq and Afghanistan would love to go to school , and only wish they had the oppuratunity to open a book and actually read. This is stupid. These people should be sent to any third world country !
3aShb 1 year ago
Most television programs are written for people with an 8th grade education. So if they want their kids to stay at that level for the rest of their lives... then great.
hannabthemd 1 year ago
JuJU didn't interview anyone in these families. She attacked and tried o intimidate and spoke in a very condescending manner to both the parents and the kids.
What I don't understand is why people are in such a tizzy over kids being unschooled!
If you choose to not unschool or home school your kids that is your business.
What gives the population at large the right to protest the act of home schooling or unschooling?
It no body's business but that of those families.
hagakure212 1 year ago 7
@hagakure212
Because parents have a responsibility to their children, namely, that their children are equipped to function in society. If you have children and do not provide them with a proper framework for living (able to get a job, able to maintain a household, able to form and retain relationships, etc.), then you have failed your children! It's that simple. People do not have the right to raise their kids anyway they see fit because everyone belongs to a larger group named SOCIETY.
barifkin31 11 months ago
@barifkin31
So essentially, the gist is, conform, shut up, stand in line and do as you're told so that as an individual with individual rights, you don't make the sheep of SOCIETY feel as though they need question if they have in fact done the "right" thing!
We have a nation of mindless followers who can barely get through the day without an instruction manual.
We as parents have the ultimate responsibility to rear children into adults who can think for themselves!
hagakure212 11 months ago
@hagakure212
That's called the social contract. If you don't want to live in society, then fine. That means you are barred from utilizing public services (water, electricity, hospitals, police, fire department, etc.) and from interacting with any public citizens. This sort of life, while certainly restrictive, is not impossible to live. You have to remain on your own private property at all times and refrain from contacting anybody who lives in the public sphere. Feel free to live the dream!
barifkin31 11 months ago
@barifkin31
You have with this and your previous statement, succinctly illuminated your complete and utter lack of understanding of the home/un-schooling process and life style. It is not a life of total isolation, far from it! It is a life wherein, children are allowed to THINK and not muddle about like a swam of socialist drones. The social contract of which you speak pertains to the non-impingement of the rights and freedoms of others in a society by one's self serving actions.
hagakure212 11 months ago
@barifkin31
Furthermore, as pertaining to public services and the use thereof, if I pay my way, i.e. taxes, utilities, tariffs, etc. I am free to use that which I choose and not be banned from such use by the myopia of conformist fearful sheep.
hagakure212 11 months ago
these children are soo much different from all other kids................. but like, not really.
They have messy rooms, and watch TV, and don't like sports and play video games. It's not like these kis are super different from any other kid in highschool. However, i know two unschoolers, and one, 15, is very into art and henna, and makes money by going to events and doing henna tattoos. Another is very into cooking, and is probably one of the best cooks i have ever met, and works at a bakery
thehotelyear 1 year ago
Does anyone else recall the book "Lord of the Flies"?
Mathelius 1 year ago
I agree with the comment below me.
CrystalVlog 1 year ago
The have a bright future of, "Would you like fries with that? Please pull forward..."
Not having a Diploma will shut them out of a lot of jobs, and most places will look at a GED, but good luck getting a job.
PTRJason 1 year ago 2
morons...
koolzainski 1 year ago
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wijse 1 year ago
@wijse I'm liberal and I'm a physician. I don't know what you do for a living, but after my four years of undergraduate, I did another four years of medical school and then another five years of residency. I don't think I need to be "reschooled," thank you.
hannabthemd 1 year ago
@wijse Actually, all of the unschoolers I know are ultra-conservative, religious fanatics who don't trust what they perceive to be the godless, unionized school district. They basically wish they could revert to "Little House on the Prairie" days. So this group of morons comprises more than just a bunch of flower children, though I'm sure they're well repesented, too. Stupidity crosses all party lines and political ideologies.
albertinamel 6 months ago
Jew Jew Chang?
wijse 1 year ago
Jesus Christ these liberals are fucking INSANE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE NOWADAYS!?!?!?!?!
XmXFLUXmX 1 year ago
Liberals are all brain dead. Put down the dope and alcohol you hippie clowns.
HalfBreedObama 1 year ago
>>First, of all why does any culture have an obligation to "progress"?
Why does anyone have an obligation of invent something?
Why does anyone have to be a leader?
Simple. if a culture doesn't do this, they will starve... unless they get welfare from more advanced cultures --- like ours.
CDeanWatcher 1 year ago
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mgallant01 1 year ago
Unschooling, can't argue on youtube since many unschoolers probably stay on World of Warcraft and youtube.
introvert3707 1 year ago
This should be illegal, there's a reason public schools exist :|
Gareth2Jones 1 year ago
And all of the current criminals, bums, homeless, poor, uneducated and burger flippers we see in society today, who attended public school?
hartneychevallier 1 year ago
I fear for our future.
Thrustomer 1 year ago
@piepwn >_> in high school you need to know the information from all of your years of high school to get good grades so you don't have to pay for college and get a scholarship so they can be successful in life, these kids will become homeless bums.
KyuubiNaruto1337XD 1 year ago
@KyuubiNaruto1337XD How about all those who are currently paying off student loans, are unemployed and homeless? Can we attribute this to their schooled education?
hartneychevallier 1 year ago
@hartneychevallier More like, these kids don't even have any education up until like 3rd grade.
all those students who are now paying off loans have a high school education and they just got their college education degree and now paying off what they owe and they have a job that fits their college degree.
these kids have nothing, the kid in this said he was taken out at 3rg grade and hes now 13, he doesn't have any spelling mastery, grammar, or vocabulary mastery.
KyuubiNaruto1337XD 1 year ago
Wow, well these kids will live with their parents forever. How will they get a job, who will hire them. how will they handle police when they bark out orders and they choose not to listen because there is no punishment, judgement or discipline. Good job parents you raised two children that will be a waste to society.
bulrydrdan 1 year ago
@bulrydrdan children living with their parents is seen as such a negative in our culture but in many other cultures it is the norm and probubly contributes to better mental health, less incidents of depression in young adults, less post partum depressions for moms, etc, etc.
hartneychevallier 1 year ago
@hartneychevallier a plus for these parents is their kids are unlikely to ship them off to some cold home for the elderly when they are old, seeing as the parents didnt send them away when they were children. A close knit family is essential for a successful and happy life.
hartneychevallier 1 year ago
@hartneychevallier Parents chose to give birth or raise children, while children don't get to choose their family. That's the difference b/w the 2.
Meatza3000 2 months ago
@hartneychevallier - I believe your right, and in those cultures there is no progress. Name one that is a leader most or these children will not succeed in life. The inventors of the light bulb, telephone, TV, the car, the plane, the microwave name one that lived at home with there parents after they were an adult.
bulrydrdan 1 year ago
@bulrydrdan
First, of all why does any culture have an obligation to "progress"?
Why does anyone have an obligation of invent something?
Why does anyone have to be a leader?
I guarantee you have no objective logical proof that anyone has any of those obligations that you said; cause you cannot derive an ought from an is.
DaveDoggOwns 1 year ago
@DaveDoggOwns Your right I have no objective logical proof , but what I have is examples of people I know. And even though they are nice and good people that still live at home with their parents. They have no skills or motivation to get ahead. And would you like to live in a culture with no progress? Even though we have no obligation to it, I believe that it is in human nature to progress. Isn't that what all humans are going for to finally have Anarchism where everyone can govern themselves.
bulrydrdan 1 year ago
@bulrydrdan I would like to live in a culture that recognizes the right of individual to live the simple life rather than a life of slavery and self-sacrifice to some person's utopian ideal. I can enjoy all the materialist pleasures I want, but I would never dare claim anyone OUGHT to give me those pleasures by inventing new technology, being succesful in some dead-end career, etc.
DaveDoggOwns 1 year ago 3
@bulrydrdan And the cultures that show a lack of progress are precisely the cultures that do not treat their children with as much love and respect as does the West. The West and those cultures which you speak of are in two completely different philosophical/technoligical/moral paradigms. Your arguement against unschooling is similiar to the arguement against anarchism: "Somalia sucks ass!"
DaveDoggOwns 1 year ago
@bulrydrdan If we must attribute progress to isolating human beings from their families, putting strain on their relationships and ability to relate, causing a severe epidemic of depression seen worldwide in cultures that value this type of education system, then progress is a negative. Humans are more value than invention and the car, plane and microwave havent contributed all that much to the health of the earth.
hartneychevallier 1 year ago
@bulrydrdan I think these kids will eventually get jobs as soon as they are able to and choose to, which is their own right.
jeffreygarten 1 year ago
@jeffreygarten Yes your right the world needs ditch diggers.
bulrydrdan 1 year ago