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  • Dr. Tim Groseclose's scientific research proves that Media Matters qualifies for the "MIS-informer of the Year" award.

  • The day they forced his resignation. I stopped watching cnn. Alone did was expose the truth and try to wake america up.

  • Best thing Lou Dobbs did for CNN ever!

  • Fox channel here i come ...please take this douche bag and let him move the black boards on glen becks show as he spins his douche bag magical theories

  • Dobbs was a nut bag who spread nonsense conspiracy theories

  • @12salem go back to your flock ya fucken sheep

  • My dear friend Dobbs, empirical data doesn't always mean its objective especially in social issues. Concentration Camp and ethnic cleansing are a product of social darwinism which based on empirical scientific method. Your objective Data are definitely filter by your bias and subjective perception resulting a bias conclusion.

  • He could NOT deal with all the LIBERALS!!! Keep your radio SHOW LOU!!!

  • Fuck you, Lou Dobbs.

  • you arrogant americans make me sick. so a news reader is leaving CNN so what? this video is so self indulgent it makes me wanna wretch. this man should report news stories - he actually is NOT the story. your american media is deceiving the american people and distorting reporting in general through-out the world. american politics and american attitudes are the problem. the US should be brokwn down nto a few smaller countries. you don't have the maturity or humanity to be a super-power.

  • @sandroeleven thats true

  • it`s about time this human waste has left CNN....even FOX wouldn`t take him to show he`s too crazy for even FOX.

  • @ben12122525 What bull that is....Beck works there.

  • Lou dobbs is a down right disgusting man i have a hunch that he planned that someone shot at his house to get higher ratings and probably had someone paid to do it talk about my gut instances sighs ihope i am wrong on this man

  • lou dobbs he was the only one that had balls on cnn

  • Change you can belive in...hmm.Wonder where the "pressure came from" Dems really want those illegal mexican votes.

  • Lou Dobbs knows the truth of 911/WTC Thats what drives this resignation. He probably asked himself questions like "I don't see any pancakes at the WTC, how come?" and "What could remove 4,000 tons in 1/10th Second of steel walls and concrete and steel floors ?" He would ask that, because that's what occurred:: 10 floors per second. X 4000 tons= 40,000 tons Per Second. Times 11 seconds=500,000 tons. All Gone. No Concrete floors, only dust and little concrete rocks

  • CNN wanted Lou to be yet another of the left-wing nutbag drones that comprise 90% of the mainstream media. Lou said F*ck that weak sh*t and split. As soon as Fox Business gets on the regular cable rotation, it will be another nail in the Democrat political coffin.

  • CNN lost me as a viewer that day. I guess CNN and the most of you people commenting don't want to hear another view of the world. That's fine. I prefer to make my own choice. Hey what's on Fox?....CLICK

  • Right, seems like the Archie Bunker types of the past are now the Democrats of today...What a strange turn...

  • Good riddance!

  • lou Dobbs is only one ever told the truth.

    Many will regret you have left. I know I missed him. Know the brainwashed liberals has taken over, and now we are for sure will have the NORTH AMERICAN UNION. Liberals love it, and soak it up like mother's milk.

  • not to mention a world currency

  • Now there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to watch CNN.

  • @STPdemon ya, who will bash immigrants now?

  • @STPdemon Cafferty

  • @STPdemon

    CNN does a pretty good job at delivering the news.

    There is absolutely no reason to watch Lou Dobbs.

  • good!

  • Good bye and good riddance to this crochity ol' retched bigoted fuck.

  • lou is the man!

  • lou, eat my immigrant spoild shorts!!

  • Didn't Lou Dobbs replace someone that died ? What was that other guys name ?

  • bye lou dobbs i hope u die

  • Good riddance you fucking douche bag!

  • Seeding and Subversion....Inquisition and Counter Reformation, writ Global. Valid.

  • 98 million to kim Jong to give up nuclear weapons from us you and me. 20 million to political prisoners and there rights in Castro's Cuba 6 million to promote civil society in Hugo Chaves's Venezuela. I know lets cut this off and we can pay for it control of the media is what matters to them

  • What a limited vocadulary you have. I bet you have crust in your underwear

  • Finally CNN found a good proctologist that got rid of this piece of shit.

    Now is your chance to join the rest of douchbags at Fox.

  • Y dont you just eat a big fat dick u faggot ass bith? Douchbags at FOX??? thats y CNN ratings has tanked for the last 10 years str8. No body fucking cares about CNN or MSNBC cause the hide the truth, and reports just what you and the obama administration want the public to hear. FUCK YOU!

  • they paid this assfuck $8 Million to take a walk.

  • Kata

    "they paid this assfuck $8 million to take a walk"

    and his followers call him a "patriot"

    hahahahahahahaha

  • Go to Fox News, great man!

  • Obama's brother lives off of 1 US Dollar per week. Go be inclusive with that!

  • OMG its so sad that he leaves. CNN is mow more llike black CNN

  • I won't miss him.

  • Lou is a true patriot and humanist. Hope he joins somehow with Ron Paul!

  • fixed news will serve him well

  • He's a Christian, not a humanist. Big difference.

  • @TheBrunswickers perfect example of why religion is freraking stupid then lol ..

  • The Drug Cartel is just another branch of the Roman Orders and their money cartel. Most of the Orders of Rome began in usury, slave trade, and other 'black' markets.

    They largely use 'minorities' because their power base lies in the Third World toilet Rome maintains to its benefit.

  • The last "roman" of the West was exiled around 500AD to the Island of Dalmatia. What are you talking about?

  • RCC...are you really that slow? Rome merely exchanged Toga for Cassock.

  • we should support unlimited immigration.

  • Thanks Lou Dobbs. You're an honest man and a true reporter. You are the only one who reported truth. Unlike Faux News and your liberal colleagues at CNN.

  • good riddance you fat racist cunt.

  • Seems to me that there are bigger fish to fry than Dobbs. Like, oh - I don't know - some yahoo's over at the Faux News network.

  • Last of the original anchors... Fu&%in pro "amnesty" muthafu%$as gonna pay...

  • fuck mediamatters.

    period.

  • Media Matters titles this video: "

    Under Pressure, Dobbs Announces Resignation From CNN"

    Nielsen backs Media Matters by reporting that CNN was at the bottom of the ratings heap. This after La Raza unsuccessfully tried to unseat Dobbs when his ratings were decent.

    From this title, do I take it that Media Matters, La Raza and Nielsen execs were in cahoots to bring pressure on CNN's execs? Remember, they titled this video and this was THEIR ultimate objective, after all.

  • Flight from the war due to the cartels is to be sympathized with. Who wants to live in a country where the cartels have bought off your politicians and ruined your economy. Yes, they have a desire and even a right to a better life. But we have to be careful we're letting in THOSE people and not the bad apples. The problem with people who like to point fingers and talk about racism is the fact that the ultimate xenophobia is the unwillingness to make this country safe for those here legally.

  • WELL

    i have to go

    i have the born to look after

    if not your vagina, keep your nose out of it

    unless you are invited to sniff it

    HAVE A NICE ONE

  • Another note about LEGAL immigration. The early English settlers made treaties with the indians. that's why 3/4 of the land in the USA is still considered Sovereign indian territory in international laws.

    So if Mexico wants a presence inside the USA they should do so by TREATY, and be given some of the states.

  • The treaty you speak of was signed after many had lost there lives.If America is indeed browning you see something wrong with that? You're losing your cultural identity? What is your cultural identity exactly...please explain without lame insults?

  • Why do you ask my cultural identity? are you racist? who said I was losing my cultural identity? The facts of it browning has no emotional reponse from me. Facts of our surroundings is just facts of our surroundings.

  • Riiiight now I'm the racist lol? The reverse racism argument that conservatives to pull out of a hat, a straw mans argument. Ok let's try it this way....what are the facts of "our" surroundings and how does that impact you on a day-to-day basis?

  • Oh god now I just read your profile, you're a birther lol? This stuff just keeps writing itself.

  • Good wording. "should" be inclusive, however America was founded on being SEPARATE AND FREE, not SLAVES TO INCLUSIVENESS.

  • Separate and free from what exactly? Ironic you used the words "slaves" and "inclusiveness" in the same sentence. Anyway off to see the Manny /acquiao vs Cotto boxing match.

  • Wow...look at all the Roman shills coming out of the wood work on 'conditioning tube'! What a surprise.

    Dobbs has yet to go to first causes.

    Illegal immigration is RCC seeding of the US.

    It is aided by DC, because they control DC.

    Time to wake up. Nothing has changed since the Council of Trent, and the greatest enemy of Republics will ever be...Rome.

    Inquisition and Counter Reformation, writ Global. Valid.

  • Adios Lou Dobbs. Good riddance. Take the fake report from the White Supremacist Center for Immigration Studies that you quoted with you.

  • Agreed. This is a country built largely on the backs of slave labor and immigrants. We are a country of immigrants. Dobbs and his minions fear that the cultural complexity of the country will change as more immigrants flood in.Dobbs routinely stated via his radio show that "this is a culture war". Bill O'Reilly referring to it as the "browning of America". It doesn't take a rocket scientist, or Rhodes Scholar to interpret the message that they are trying to convey.

  • Open your eyes, stating the facts that America is browning is not something to "convey".

    Of course we're a country of immigrants. LEGAL immigrants.

  • It there something wrong with "browning"? The Indians saw this country "whitening".

    "LEGAL immigrants"

    No one asked the Europeans to come here. They didn't ask anyone to come here either. They just forced their way in.

  • Exactly A86--he is clearly an ideologue.

  • Thanks. I just wish Dobbs would admit that he's conservative instead of pretending to be independent. I don't mind if someone is a liberal or conservative or whatever. Just be honest about it. But I do mind when Dobbs quotes White Supremacist sources and tries to pass it off as legitimate research.

  • He is a conservative and he hides behind this veil of impartiality, by calling himself an independent, which he is clearly not. Anytime you disagree with conservatives, they will throw out 2 arguments "You're unamerican or the constitution", not realizing that they're view of what America should be or remain is antiquated. Justice Scalia even commented that if he were around to vote he would have upheld brown vs. board of education. I mean how much more antiquated can you get.

  • Because he doesn't believe in liberal nor conservative, he is an american.

  • Keep deluding yourself with that notion. So those teabaggers that held nightly vigils, they're unamerican too right?

  • He's pretty conservative. In a lot of ways he's all the best of conservativism, but in too many ways is he the worst.

  • Yeah Lou's conservative but he is not a neocon.

  • Dobbs has to call himself an Independent because modern-day conservatives are just as lax as liberals at border security and they, too, support the outsourcing of American jobs, which Dobbs does not. Dobbs may be old-school conservative but he is not a neo-con Hawk, which is the brand of conservatism in vogue. Dobbs message is populist with a conservative bent. He represents those who see through the two party nonsense. Partisanship is religion, not truth. Dobbs doesn't feed the sacred cows.

  • Should he quote Acorn and La Razza we-are-the-rightful-owners-of-­this-nation crowd? Frankly, I don't see a difference other than ethnic racism is tolerated whereas Dobbs push to protect those who legitimately live and work here is not. One must live in a border state to really appreciate the danger that parents, Latinos too, face as a result of the illegal cop killers and drug cartel activity spilling over the border. Minority communities are targeted by that violence. They want security too!

  • I agree with respect to securing our borders. I disagree with Lou and his reasoning as he constantly refers to a cultural shift in this country which he speaks negatively of. My position is so what if there is? There are some who would argue that Acorn as a whole has been a benefit to under-served communities--I'm not the one saying that but a couple of bad apples does not a company make.

  • What is it with right-wingers and ACORN? Lol. They're a very minor organization in the US with little real power. It seems like whatever Republicans don't like they suspect ACORN was in it.

  • are the conservatives so week that they fear powerless entities like la raza and acorn?

    the reason they are losing power is because when they had it

    they kept fucking up

    they messed up out economy

    our standing in the world

    etc

    etc

    etc

    they are looking for scapegoats in all the wrong places

    lol

  • are acorn and la raza on a sydicated show, or on any public forum, or media outlet doing what dobbs was doing

    you are bringing FALLACIES into the pan

  • Is there something wrong with whitening? Why do you want to conflict over facts?

  • Yes there is something inherently wrong with that position(it's racist), it doesn't reflect what America should represent....inclusiveness.

  • Exactly. I'm don't see Lou Dobbs and Bill O'Reilly worrying about the millions of undocumented immigrants from Europe. Aside from undocumented immigrants from Mexico, Guatemala and El Salvador the next largest group of undocumented immigrants come from Great Britain, Canada, Ireland and Scandinavia. Don't see Dobbs and Billo complaining about them.

  • *I don't, I meant.

  • Those other illegal groups aren't the ones who are targeted by crime related to the drug trade. That Afghanistan heroin and South American cocaine comes across the Mexican border. The violence disproportionately takes the lives of minorities. Those with criminal histories are not jumping through immigration hoops and they are making inner cities violent due to the drug trade/war/MS13, etc. The difference is in the security aspect. Legit immigrants don't want the crime they left to come here!

  • And a lot of supplies for crystal meth comes across the Canadian border. The vast, vast majority of immigrants, even "illegal" ones, don't commit crimes. The crime rate for ones from Mexico is only slightly higher than the rate for "illegals" from Ireland.

  • Yes, but the vast majority of crime victims in association with the drug trade are minority American citizens.

    It is racist to think that minorities deserve to have violence follow them wherever they go. They came here to get away from that, and yet their children are being targeted as low level drug sellers for cartels that are beheading Mexican lawmakers and law enforcement left and right. There's a war going on there and there's no sense in importing the worst of it here. It serves no one!

  • The drug cartel largely follows minorities because minorities are more likely to be poor. Poor people are more likely to take narcotics and the illegal narcotics trade feeds on that. They're easier victims and since they have less resources they can't go to the government and complain about it as easy as middle class and wealthy (especially wealthy) citizens.

  • For a guy that is normally so well-spoken, he sure stumbled over a lot of those words. Lying fuck.

  • I'm praying that CNN replace him with a Mexican American.That would be excellent Karma!

  • I cant wait to see what he does. I hope he goes to FOX. Then we can see the hypocrisy of the left even more. When they try and marginalize Dobbs just like they did to Stossel. I dont blame you Lou, mainstream media is no longer mainstream when it is bought and paid for from the current admin.

  • Anglos are truly dumb and ignorant! Do you really think that a group of undocumented workers that are here to be exploited,racially discriminated and deny a living could cause the world wide recession that we are living????? Do not fool us! The problem as to do with the stupid white men,that for more that 200yrs have cause two world wars,pollution and destruction through tech and sci, and a never ending appetite for fat comsumption,and corruption of the upper and lower level of gov. get it?

  • Under Pressure LMAO

  • i got to go

    conservatives are so easy

    even when they have their Shepard  telling them what to say

    sheeps, head back to the barn

    later

  • checked out your profile now I get it.. you're a Gay Black jamaican 23 year old. Nuff said.

  • Hey tampa boy, you are right on my profile , Im a gay black jaimacan. I do work on the streets of Miami and ocasionally on the streets of Tampa. And my best customers are young white chicks of high society and old senior men like you who prefer a black pole inside their pink butt. ha,ha,ha

  • building a 100 feet walls all around us will not solve the problem,

    you do not attack the symptoms, but the roots

    with a portion we spend building walls, we can eliminate or reduce the illegal problem

  • chain you are late coming in i said dobbs created more problems that he solved i said we are the problem because !- we hire the illegals, if we do not hire them they do not come 2.- we punish the people who hire these "criminals" for they are promoting this criminal activity 3.- we punish any one buying services or good produced illegally end of problem simple what par t of simple you do not get since your comprehension is so keen
  • La cucaracha, la cucaracha, ya no puede caminar

    porque no tiene, porque le falta, las dos patitas de atrás.

  • chain

    you may want to call yourself a ROACH, but the rest of human beings are not

    everybody in the world shares your genes, so if you call some of them roaches, you call yourself a roach

    and the fact that you have to use insults to prove a point, shows that you are closer to be right on calling yourself a roach

    thanks for proving my point that people like you and dobbs create more problems then they solve

  • by the way... where are you from Zegaton? you are definiteily not from here... Enlighhten us about YOUR country.

  • not form here

    where is here?

  • the country you are so critical of.

  • your are right

    the government was establish to defend everyone's right

    but the conservatives do not believe so

    conservatives fought to keep slavery legal

    they fough to keep woman, blacks, the poor the uneducated form voting, from holdingo office

    now the same archaic retrograde creed wants to tell woman when to give birth and gays who not to marry

    that is not defending rights equally

  • Lincoln was a republican and for freein the slaves. You know nothing of our (the United States of America) History.  go back to eating your Clay chips in Haiti and read a book. If it were not for our forefathers you would still be shitting in a hole and would not have light you pathetic beggar.

  • Actually, Democrats were a large percentage of the South, ZegatonZ. Don't mistake modern neo-cons with Old School Statesmen who wanted to keep government off of people's backs and out of their private lives. The civil rights issues you refer to reflected the wider culture & prevailing beliefs across party lines. Unlike today, we didn't have talk radio or bickering pundits on cable news networks to make early Americans forget that they were Americans first and foremost.

  • the neoconservatism was born in the 30' , of course

    on the civil right issue, it prevailed across party lines, but not across ideologies; in other words, conservatives and liberal were not divided by parties, but when it came for voting for civil rights

    conservatives, either republicans or democrats, voted almost 100% against civil rights

    after that vote, conservative dem's moved to the rep's side, and liberal rep's moved to the other party

    cont

  • news

    the south was DEMOCRAT but conservative back then, now they are republican but still conservative

    we are speaking of the creed CONSERVATISM

    not party affiliation, for party is simple a name tag

    conservatives have always being racist for the most part

    they fought to keep slavery legal, they enacted segregation

    and so on,

  • Exactly Zegaton. Racists showing up to rallies, teabag parties, health care debates all conservative....coincidence? Not when it seems to be a recurring theme. Conservatives love the reverse racism charge, well hey you hate on a certain group guess what inevitably happens? They hate you back, then you can pull out the reverse racism charge that has become so predictable.

  • the reason we have civil rights is because without them the conservatives would still have it their way

    1.- only rich educated white male can vote and hold office

    2.- blacks, women and non-white are inferior or subhuman

    3.- blacks and women are to be property on man, white rich man

    4. if you are uneducated and do not have money, you cannot vote or hold office, even if you are white

    5. gays are to be reformed or lynched

    6.the male white, the rich and educated will give rights to those we see fit

  • Now wait and watch as someone will inevitably tell you that you're the one who is racist for stating these points--watch it will be quite predictable as they won't debate you on those points you've mentioned but rather attack you for them.

  • Neoconservatism was born in the modern era. We're not that far out of the 20th Century.

    The term "Southern Democrat" was a fact during the much, much earlier Civil War.

    President Lincoln was a Republican.

    Now what happened later during Suffrage and on through the 1960s Civil Rights era may, indeed, have reflected the voting lines you mention if only because the trend began to change insofar as immigrants largely began to identify with the Democratic party (as they do today).

  • "cockroaches"

    that is precisely what is worn with dobbs and his followers

    thank you for proving my point

  • go to FOX news where at least they report the facts even if Obama does not like it. Oh and to all of my Progressive Gay Dope smoking Lazy Socialist friends... fuck you and your "FREE" health care. I will laugh at you when you go to jail for not being ab le to afford your FREE health care. I Can afford it because I work. You voted for it. Have fun in Jail stupid Obama sheep. you deserve it.

  • being liberal does not mean being lazy, you find the same amount of lazy people on both sides, please be objective

    nothing is free, do not be a sheep and believe everything your master says

    now, if you so not want anything "free"

    lets eliminate all social programs

    you will trust your retirement money to the same people that stole most of their retirement money in the last few years

    you will buy your own library

    your own fire station, your own police force, your own ambulance service

    cont

  • you will use your own roads

    you will use your own schools

    you will not deposit any money in banks that federally secure your it

    no army either. you defend you own ass

    l

  • you dumbass you use this argument everytime... want me to force feed cornbread down your fucking throat? MY government is established to defend my rights, not to feed you, shelter you, wipe your ass or pay to abort your children that you bred. People like you that think WE owe you something are what has screwed up this country. You Lazy damn Half man.  Get a GIG! Stop begging! Read the 5000 year Leap and grow a pair.

  • nFALLACY

    string man fallacy as well

    you are not to feed anyone, if you do not want, but you own kids, you are also not to tell people who to bring to full term

    again

    please respond

    are you for no free libraries, no free police, no free school, no SS by the govement,

    you want private; police, fireman, hospital, schools, roads, parks, seafronts, airspace,

    do you want to trust your retirment to the same people that stole most of peoples savings?

  • Another casualty of OBama's America.

  • good for you lou.  people of Class don't need to be working for cnn anyway.

  • Dobbs is going to FOXNEWS.

  • good bye douche bag !!!

  • " for the most part he was right.."

    for example....???

  • You won MediaMatters, are you happy? wow great job, now all our problems in this country has been solved.

  • no, not all the problems are solved,

    just one person that creates more problems that it solves is gone

  • news flash: this guy is just in the media, he doesn't set agenda, he doesn't make the law. You wana do some good? focus your efforts on Congress to push for real financial reform and health care reform.

    Focusing on partisan politics talk is just a distraction. This country has always been divided, and as a result people get distracted from paying attention to the real issues.

  • I hate to see Dobbs leave CNN. Whether people lked him or not, he has drawn the most criticism for his stance against illegal-immigration. Illegal-immigration is just that, illegal, and he has simply pointed out this "politically incorrect" fact.

    America simply needs to police its borders as does any soveriegn country.

    If you don't, you won't remain soveriegn for long.

  • no, he did not

    he spoke of them as if they were all rapists and murderers

    he could not separate that from simply being here illegally

    he was biased, that was his problem

    he was not objective

  • There ARE a great many of them that are involved in nefarious activities here.  Records indicate that many illegals are involved in the drug trade as well as narco-terrorism.

    And those are facts! Look at ICE data bases as well as FBI statistics.

  • Did Hitler marry a Jew?

    Dobbs is married to a Hispanic woman.

    If you live in a "white flight" community and don't see how many innocent black, latino lives are destroyed by the Mexican Mafia/drug trade, then you don't understand the issues. Immigrants come here seeking a better life. They don't want criminal border crossers to entrap their children in gangs that are controlled by drug cartels out of SA. Minority children are victimized first by insecure borders. Protest the REAL racism!

  • No one is dismissing those points you're making, in fact most people would agree with you.Those neighborhoods that you referred to-- I lived in as a young child and again later on while attending college in NY. Immigration problems are last on the list of what plagues these areas, there is a lack of economic expansion because most companies either moved out for tax reasons or outsourced those jobs to non-americans which is the real issue at play here.

  • Again I contend most people who come here work hard and want the best for there families, even it goes against some conservatives view of cultural pluralism.

  • In Los Angeles some residents can't even get access to fresh produce to keep the diabetes epidemic at bay because corporations don't like opening shop in high crime areas. And the crime is associated with the drug war, and the drug trade is facilitated over the border whether you live in LA or Chicago. The economic problems are a result of the loss of stability just as developing countries in Africa torn by war lack economic expansion. Outsourcing is part of the picture but not the entire one.

  • attaching illegals does not solve the problem, that is my issue

    you attack the root of the problem

    if illegals are criminals, then punish the people who hire these criminals

    punish the people who buy services and goods from these criminals

    have the people who hire illegals pay for the expenses they bring

    and stop collecting taxes from illegals, for you do not do business with illegals or criminals

  • It's ok for American companies to outsource labor to third world countries for pennies, which is akin to slave labor, but when those same individuals come here looking for a better life for there families now it's an issue?

  • sobbs is biased and racist,

    he speaks emphasizes the negatives, but not the positives

    he talks about illegals bringing LEPROSY

    illegals being murderers and rapists

    of course you find bad people every where, but he only point to the negative

  • People don't talk straight like that. They say if you are anti illegal immigration, you are anti immigration. My wife is an immigrant and we both oppose illegal immigration. Dobbs is too honest to be in the MSM. He is the last one left at CNN.

  • Republicans & Democrats support amnesty & weak borders because Americans, like Europeans, are having too few children to pay for baby boomers' entitlements (look up the film "IOUSA"). Kids of illegals are Americans by birth. They will pay Fed taxes to prop up Big Government. Politicians see in them Future Taxpayers of America! If a Mid East dirty bomb crosses the border & illegal drug/gang violence kills minorities in inner cities, oh well. It's a calculated risk for a pyramid scheme economy.

  • The reason a lot of people are "weak" on borders is because America is already a nation of immigrants and some of us tend to be sympathetic to immigrants. Some of us are also aware that current immigration laws are so convoluted and screwed-up that many poor immigrants come in "illegally" because the legal method is too expensive for most.

    The reason border jumping has spiked in recent years is due to the low wages in Mexico thanks to deregulated NAFTA deals.

  • There is no cost associated with the legal method of immigration. You put your name on the list and wait. Waiting is the key.

    Wow...it's so onerous to wait. Even the fees associated with filing for citizenship after the mandatory waiting period are very low.

    Nice shilling for Rome. The reason border jumping has spiked...increased subversion.

  • "no cost"

    Wow, that's really uninformed. One of my best friends, who is a legal immigrant, begs to differ. Immigration is a very expensive process. Hence why most immigrants who are middle class or even upper middle class in their home country go down to a low income living standard after coming here. Sometimes whatever degrees they have from their country don't count here.

    (dot) associatedcontent (dot) com / article / 287630 / the _ benefits_ of _ legal _ immigration (dot) html

  • Do you want someone from, oh lets say Somalia get on a plane to here in the United states, get a job at a hospital and give you the surgery you need? The standards of other countries are not nessesarily the same as in the United States. It's why so many people from other countries get their educations here and take it back with to their homeland. I started high school in Ohio only to move to Texas where more credits were needed to graduate. I never failed and yet was behind. Lifes a b#@ch.

  • I don't care what country someone is from as long as they are qualified for the job. Unless you can prove their education is substandard by American standards you're just assuming.

  • No, your country is assuming I a just telling it like it is. Sometimes they don't have the education and if they are here, they have a choice to take the same tests that US educated citizens do. Now you need to question those who are afraid, or cannot pass those tests.......not me.

  • Lol, judging by the grammar of your average post on the Internet I'd say American schools don't have that lofty of standards.

    A lot of European countries have us beat.

  • *By "your" I mean in general. Not you in particular.

  • Sorry, I'm not known for my typing skills, nor do I dwell on it. It is obvious by your post that even though our American standards are low you understood what I was expressing within my post. It's a shame that you can only counter with grammer insults instead of rational debate.

  • I wasn't insulting your grammar. It was a thought that came to my head in general after years of seeing posts that are cryptic due to all sorts of grammar errors. The thought came into my head that people from other countries often have better English when they post in English than many people who have lived here their whole lives.

  • No, its quite informed. You can file all paperwork yourself. It costs less than the process for becoming a citizen.

    We were talking about legal entry...not about transfer or applicability of educational standards. Lost of stories out the about quite educated folks who came here legally and rebuilt all credentials.

    Thanks for playing.

  • Not at all, it's very expensive. Just ask my friend and his family who are legal immigrants. Visas are hard to come by.

    (dot) uslaw (dot) om / bulletin / unskilled - labor - visas -are -hard- to - get (dot) php ? p= 51

    (dot) iowastatedaily (dot) com / articles / 2006 / 04 / 17 / opinion / 20060417 - archive0 (dot) txt

    There are many extended court costs and other costs necessary for it. Our immigration system is very complex. That's why most legal immigrants almost invariably are low-income.

  • It is not expensive, there are not any court costs if you are not a former criminal...and there are reasons for limiting visas for any ability level.

    That being said...immigration today is far more about RCC seeding than about any valid need for talent...especially amonst the low-income.

    The issue is not low v high wage earners...its just another front of Inquisition and Counter Reformation, writ Global.

  • It may very well be a long and tedious process...but there are reasons for that as well.

  • Apparently you're not reading:

    articles (dot) latimes (dot) com / 2009 / feb / 17 / local / me - tobar17

    Tens of thousands of immigrants go through these courts each year. There are background checks required to become a US citizen.

    There are only 5,000 visas available every year. Yet there are obviously more than 5,000 people trying to immigrate to the US every year. Obviously that's going to cause a huge shortage.

  • Apperently you cannot discern propaganda from reality.

    My father went through background checks...it cost nothing but the time to wait.

    Go sell it elsewhere.

  • Please prove that anything in the reports I linked is incorrect.

    "My father"

    Your father is one person. That doesn't mean all immigrants have it the same way as him.

  • As it occured for my father, it occurs for a great many others.

    Of course...if those involved had ANY character whatsoever...they would long ago have bought south weaponry easily found on this side of the border, and by dint of blood and effort secure their own rights in their own land.

    They run from the south to the north, not understanding that our common enemy is here as well.

    Or perhaps that is not their true agenda?

  • 1) Well apparently it doesn't happen for the majority though it may happen for some (what country they come from also affects this).

    2) What on earth are you talking about after the first sentence?

  • pfffff...shill. "what on earth are you talking about...?" Hahahahah

  • You using unclear and cryptic language doesn't me a shill, lol. I'm still waiting for that refutation of the supposed "propaganda". You have any other than anecdotal stories about your father?

  • I've been quite clear...and personal experience will always trump a chump writting propaganda in support of an agenda.

    I'm being 'unclear and cryptic'....right.

  • You started talking about weapons from the south (what "south"?) and something about an agenda not understanding our common enemy is here. Do you care to clarify who exactly these people are and what enemy you're referring to?

    "trump a chump"

    Says the guy who tried to prove a point using an anecdote. One of the basic no-nos of a debate. Lol. You fail.

  • You need to learn how to read. Weapons bought on this side of the border, taken south.

    I've already stated quite openly who the enemy is...Rome. And all who serve her.

    Those from the South running North to better their lives had best be very well aware that that which destroyed South America...is alive and well and destroying North America.

  • Are you saying imperialism? Corporatism?

  • *typo...should read 'brought south weaponry easily found on this side of the border'

  • I know what you mean. I know of several illegals (construction) who live here and make up excuses as to why they can't become a citizen and yet I know of 2 Russian families who moved here one at at time, sometimes taking years for Russia to allow there family members exit , coming here, becoming legal citizens, working, paying taxes and are very successful. I think it's all about how easy it is to leave and come back. If we secured our borders I bet more would become citizens legally.

  • Dobbs and CNN parted ways, because the Conservative movement has been embarrassingly overrun by ignorant anti-intellectualism. And Bullshit is only good for business at Fox News.