stejne kazdy Cech a Moravak a Slezan ma v sobe trochu nemecke krve .Vime to ,jen si to nechceme priznat ....Ja jsem na to hrdy ,to nas rozdeluje od vychodnich Slovanu .,
stejne kazdy Cech a Moravak a Slezan ma v sobe trochu nemecke krve .Vime to ,jen si to nechceme priznat ....Ja jsem na to hrdy ,to nas rozdeluje od vychodnich Slovanu .,
@czechoslovakpatriot Nenamáhej se s ním dohadovat. Znám ho z jiných videí a je to hnusnej kolaborantskej nácek co se stydí že je slovan a radši by kouřil ptáky germánům.
@napajedlacek geneticky je to kromaňonec :) švéd, kelt, markoman a kvád, východní slovan má zase v sobě tatara, kyrgizstánce atd. 100 procent slovanská krev neexistuje :)
I really dunno whats your problem. like it or not, the czechoslovak foreign army division and legion was indeed involved in lot of allied battles.
why do you keep arguing about existence of the czechoslovak state? it was a protectorate sure, but as wolf says there were still a lot of foreign and exile OFFICIAL legions. seems like you are the one here trying to deny our efforts in WW2 in order to fix your inferiority complex.
@WolfhoundMercenary my ass is your mother, but i won't ever fuck her not even if she's laying on your younger sister's back. you don't need to get up early just once infantczech to get a slap in your face, what sends your head back to your whoreson german ruler's butt, from which he had let you go, cause of his diarrhea what sated you through a thousand year cycle. you fucker swedish-coffee dealer.
when the "civilized" "democratic" and so on french attacked cities, with castles, and found the "civilians", they have tortured them in various styles. f.e. the swedish-coffee was the invention of that time. french soldiers have primed their victims with litres of muddy water, then stomped on them till dead and gone.
the kuvanő fia német was mentioned in one of the hungarian codexes from the time we've fought habsburgs.
I understand with all this talk of ass and sister fucking that you've proabably suffered terrible trauma in your childhood so I won't make fun of the likely fact that your mother used to get beat up or raped by your father, as in most nigga homes. And if you get into spamming your lunatic-obsessed tantrums, I will royally kick your freedom-of-babble here, up your scrawny hate-cult indoctrinated ass in a lovely ban.
@WolfhoundMercenary you not surprisingly don't know the difference between collaborators and allies. french vichy, norwegian quisling were collaborators. so was tiso, the slovak fascist. and the germans had czechs who served them willingly in the bohemian-moravian protectorate.
romanians were always traitorous, even before the ottomans left the territory on which they've founded rumania. but at least for a short time they were allies of germany in WWII.
@MallenDnB Nejspíš naráží na skutečnost, že zdkáčka v 38 ještě nebyly stejně jako MPčka a flak 88 by se do první linie neměl možnost ani dostat ;-). Jednak jeho víceúčelové využití našli později a jednak by nikdo neriskoval zničení protivzdušného kanónu, který vté době nebyl až tak častým úkazem ;-)
je mi československých vojáků líto ale jsem na ně hrdý že někteří zůstali věrní a šli bojovat proti němcům kamkoliv to šlo např. do anglie do severní afriky nebo do ruska.dokonce jsem četl že někteří šli i proti japoncům a také že bojovali i na den D
Keby že sme neakceptovali mníchov. tak by Nemci dostali pekne na hubu.. možno by sme nevyhrali ale rozbili by sme im pekný pár divízií.. ved vtedajšia armáda ČSR patrila medzi špičku..
@Darstrem To máš pravdu, na pohraničí pevné pevnosti a na horách(jakoby nějaký dar) a 2 miliony vojáků(včetně mobilizace) Nemci by se divili až by jim tam pochcípalo milion vojáků a 1000 tanků:-)
tak čtu knihu o 2.světové válce na území ČR a tam stojí, že že v průběhu jednoho týdne v sudetách NAŠI VOJÁCI zabyli na několik stovek němců a zničili několik desítek tanků, než byli stáhnuti!!! to samé sem našel v jednom odborném časopise a na internetu!!!
@Loketairsoft Francouzi nám sdělili, že pokud území Německu neodstoupíme (a nevyřešíme též územní požadavky Polska a Maďarska, jak předpokládala Mnichovská dohoda), nejen, že nám nepomohou, ale budeme ještě označeni za viníka války.
Válka byla nesmysl, na 100 % bychom ji prohráli. Ale měli jsme se bránit, alespoň chvíli, stejně jako Srbsko při útoku NATO, odstoupení bez války nás duševně nalomilo. (Jinak není pravda, že jsme nebojovali - 120 mužů v roce 1938 padlo v bojích s teroristy.)
@Haharin1587 POZOR ne 100 % ne ČS měla pře milion vojáků a velmi dobrou výzbroj a techniku atd. ! a že sme nebojovali ano bojovali v tom souhlasím ale čechů bojovalo mnohonásobně více ! v cizineckých legiích , RAF , atd.
@1adamhaj Ano, na zahraniční vojáky (a domácí odboj!) samozřejmě nesmí být zapomenuto. A svým způsobem je možné připojit i československé prapory ve španělské občanské válce, protože též bojovali nepřímo proti Německu.
Čsl. armáda byla v roce 1938 velká, silná a dobře vyzbrojená. Byl by to těžký protivník. Ale útok třech států skoro po celé délce našich hranic, s vnitřním nepřítelem (německé, polské a maďarské teroristické skupiny), bez jakékoli pomoci a v dokonalé mezinárodní izolaci?
@Haharin1587 ano netvrdím že bysme vyhráli ! i když bych si to přál ! ono v podstatě teď se omlouvám nám to POSRALI francouzi nedodržením spoj. smluv ! a pak nás dorazila mnichovská dohoda :( a v neposlední řadě slabý a starý prezident který nebyl schopen vzdorovat hitlerovi ( PS: já myslým že to byl Hácha ? ale nesjem si jistý omlouvám se že to nevím mám špatnou paměť
Ano, tu podminku si vyminil Benes nikoliv Stalin, ale ten i pres to, ze Francouzi pomoc odmitli, nabizel Benesovi dodrzeni smlouvy ye strany SSSR i bez francouzu...
@Haharin1587 Zmetci.Teď čtu knížku Akta Hitler a tam Hitler říká ža měla franciel větší armádu neš jeho Wehrmacht.Sakra měli ho utlačit dřív než se rozrostl.
@Haharin1587 stou prohrou bych si nebyl tak jistej,nemci nemneli palivo a munici a byli silne zadluzenej stat!dalsim faktem jsou nasi generalove,neco si precti o Vojcechvskym,Prchaloj,Luzoj,Krejcim,Ingr,Husarek....120muzu??to nepocitas padle SOSky...
@oliin100 Těch 120 je i se sosáky. Ono je to hodně, každý den padlo několik mužů. Na to, že nebyla vyhlášená válka, jde o velmi vysoké číslo.
Ještě jeden faktor by tady měl zaznít - Slováci. Velká části z nich nebyla moc pročeskoslovenská, navíc je naši nepřátelé proti nám neustále poštívali. Čsl. branná moc se v zásadě opírala o české vojáky a český důstojnický sbor.
@Haharin1587 nemal by si ale zabudnu t ze aj slovaci bojovali po boku s cechmi vo velkej bittke o anglicko a ze sma mali velke zasluhy na porazeni luftwaffe .Myslim spolocne cesi aj slovaci
@technorocker1986 Jo a kdopak vyhlásil samostatný stát den před okupací Čech a potom dodával Německu vojáky a šel za ně bojovat na východní frontu??Slováci.
Pro Jjuurra víš, že Němci neměli transportéry Sdkfz 251 ve výzbroji v 38 roce, ale až v 39...
S průběhem boje ve videu souhlasím, ale vadí mi jak na těchto akcích míchají ti "členové klubu vojenské historie" techniku do 38 roku, přičemž její vývoj a zařazení spadali do pozdějších dob...
kdyby jsem se bránili, tak by jsme jim sice udělali docela velký ztráty díky opevnění na hranici s Německem, ale oni měli připravenou armádu i v Rakousku a tam jsme moc silné opevnění neměli takže by tu docela rychle prorazili a obklíčili naše vojáky na severu. Vláda měla ještě připravenou evakuaci na Slovensko a přeskupení, ale to už by nepomohlo. Navíc už když nám sebrali sudety tak na nás zaútočili Poláci na Těšínsku a Msďaři na jihu Slovenska.
@Cherember Polsko by umírňovali Rusové. A proti Maďarsku jsme měli zaručenou pomoc od Rumunska.Oba státy by v případě agrese poláků a maďarů zasáhli,čímž by je "zneutralizovali". Tvrzení že se na nás vyflákli všichni spojenci je pěkná blbost,které by neměl nikdo věřit. A na jižní moravě byly opevnění stavěné mnohem dřív než nějaký hitler přišel k moci. A Pzkpfw I měl jen kulomet.A tím by osádku v bunkru nezničil... Ani v tom lehkém.
@LT34CZ No mas pravdu ze s Pzkpfw 1 by osadku bunkru neznicil ale zapominas na to ze v te dobe meli nemci docela ucine delostrelectvo a letadla technicky lepsi nad nasemi a zadruhe v te dobe nemeli Nemci jen pzkpfw 1ale i Pzkpfw 2 a 3 s 50mm delem
@Witman34 pz...2 v roce 1939.pz...3 v roce 1940... Dělostřelectvo měli účinné jen díky tomu,že od nás přebrali veškerou výzbroj víceméně bez boje. To,že maginetovu linii odstřelovali s našimi 300 mm hmoždíři neví skoro nikdo.ŽE se flag až nápadně moc podobá našemu protiletadlovému dělu neví taky skoro nikdo... A s letectvem to tak slavné taky neměli.Jen zjišťovat a číst témata,kde se už ohledně tohoto mluvilo....
@Witman34 /trochu přesněji -němci měli v hojném počtu pzkw-1 s 2x 7,92 mm,/ méně pzkw 2 s 1x 7,92 a 1x 20mm velkorážný kulomet- ale k němu nedostatek střeliva,/ a asi 40 pzkw 3 s 37 mm kanonem /a prý 30ks pzkw 4 se 75mm krátkým kanonem nevhodný pro boj s tanky- měl sloužit pro podporu pěchoty. Neměli žádný kanon schopný spolehlivě bořit bunkry, tanky by se museli dostávat přes vynikající systém pt překážek,( které se osvědčili i proti modernějším tankům) Ivo
@pe2linka Jak píšeš. Pzkpfw měli jak nas... ale jejich bojová hodnota proti jiným tankům je ubohá. Pz..II nastoupili do služby až v roce 1939 a upřímně 20 mm rychlopalný kanón (kulomet) je proti tanku taky na nic. Pz..3 přišel až v roce 1940-ironií,že dřív přišel pz...4 (koncem r. 1939)
Poland profitted from the Munich Agreement, as well. Only this enabled Beck's government to annex (or better to say, STEAL) the northern Orava and Spiš (Zips) from Slovakia.
Even ČSR couldn't be an ally of Poland - their interests were completely different.
Needless to mention the countless crimes against ethnic Germans in pre-war Poland (murders, persecution, Polonisation, almost no German schools)...
Poland profitted from the Munich Agreement, as well. Only this enabled Beck's government to annex (or better to say, STEAL) the northern Orava and Spiš (Zips) from Slovakia.
Even ČSR couldn't be an ally of Poland - their interests were completely different.
Needless to mention the countless crimes against ethnic Germans in pre-war Poland (murders, persecution, Polonisation, almost no German schools)...
If you wood stand up to the herr Hitler in 1938 (I'M sorry if you and yours country man wood not be sale out by GB,Fr in Munich, the gerat pece saver Chamberlain ) Your army ect, wood stop the germans od the fortifications for some time. And if Polish and Czechoslovakian Politics wood not be so deam proud the history may be difrent today.
The Czechs and Slovaks would have put up a good resistance to Hitlerin 1938. Stupid Chamberlain didn't hav e the "pelotas" to stand up to Hitler. Too buy "appeasing" Hitler.
Rozdělení byla chyba, když mi někdo řekne že se to už nemůže vrátit, tak se ho zeptám kolik lidí věřilo před 17. listopadem že padne socialismus. nebojte se!! podpořte nás!!!
Ahoj lidi, rozhodli sme se oživit myšlenku Československa. Na facebooku je založená skupina Vrať seČeskoslovensko... Hodí se nám každý člen. Musí nás být mnoho aby se o nás mluvilo. Zatím je to v začátcích, ale jednou nás bude mnoho. Všichni kdo sou pro, přidejte se a podpořte naši myšlenku.
Ahoj, je pre mňa viac ako potešiteľné, že po 17-tich rokoch sa objavujú mladí ľudia z Čiech, ktorí spomínajú na Československo s nostalgiou. Pamätám si totiž na to, ako mnoho Čechov kričali "ať si jdou!" pričom sa tlačili české dvesto korunáčky už v roku 1992, teda rok pred rozdelením. Spomínam si však aj na to ako Slováci v Bratislave skoro rozbili Havlovi prezidendské auto, keď prišiel na demoštráciu za nezávislosť.
Já vzpomínám jen na to co bylo hezké.O vztazích mezi Čechy a Slováky nemá cenu diskutovat.Každý má na to jiný názor.Já osobně jsem rád,že jsme šli každý svou cestou.Jsme si podobní,ale vlastně každý jiný a na zásadních problémech by se naši politici nikdy nedohodli.Proto dnes,kdy nás netíží národnostní šarvátky,máme k sobě jaksi blíž.
Československo je už minulosťou. Veľmi málo ľudí verilo a verí Slovákom, že obstojíme a nestratíme sa. Čoskoro bude mať Slovenská republika toľko rokov ako mala 1. Československá republika. Verte nám, že pôjdeme ďalej. Verte nám, že Slováci sú Vaši najlepší priatelia, a verte nám, že spomíname na Československo s úctou...trebárs aj na Facebooku.
Němci a 70 těžkejch tanků ? v roce 38?! lidi jděte si o německé připravenosti na válku něco přečíst.A k podkarpatské rusi, poslední československá jednotka z ní ustopila a složila zbraně 4 dny po oficiálním zániku republiky.
ano nemci byli silnejsi ale v pripade nasi vojenske obrany by nam pomohli soveti coz by nevedlo k tomu jak se nechali od nemcu napalit, spojence by to mozna trklo a vstoupili by take do valky... nebo by se na nas soveti vysrali a vse by bylo zase uplne jinak z cehoz vypliva ze KDYBY nema cenu resit
In 1938 Poland occupied only small territory where Polish People were in majority. But taking that political and military action in such dramatic for Czechoslovakias moment was a bad mistake. Its shame for us! Thats a pity Poles and Czechs couldnt cooperate for protection our states against Hitler. We remember that 1000 Czechs was fighting arm in arm with Polish soldiers against Germans aggression in 1939. Im doing homage to these brave Czechs.
Your nation is seller ( Polska) !! Together with GB, Fr, you sell our nation to Germany!!! Only USSR and Yugoslavia and Rumania, were AVG.. Polish ppl, were rats, likes hungarian, slovakians and others...
You're misunderstood, Poland had no control whatsoever on Czechoslovakia. They never were present at the Munich conference. Last time I checked, there were only 4 nations present: Britain (Chamberlain), France (Daladier), Italy (Mussolinni), and Germany (Hitler).
Yes you're right, Romania and Yugoslavia were our allies, but what could they do? They were nothing against the industrial powerhouse called "The Third Reich".
If the USSR would've been able to defend us, Unor 1948 in 1938.
@Jjuurraa A pot is calling a kettle black. Twenty years before, in January 1919 it was newly born Czechoslovakia, that stabbed Poland (fighting bolsheviks at the time) in the back . A year later, when Soviet armies reached Warsaw, it was the Czechs again who stopped transports with supplies from the West.
The similar treacherous measure Czechs applied to Hungary, taking ethnically pure Hungarian lands in today's southern Slovakia in June 1920.
You must be joking... Czechoslovakia was sacrificed, and right after the western powers said, that they will wage war for the polish cicrus with horses and sabres. But we saw, how did Poland degend itself... True heroes, who surrendered in few weeks.
We stopped transports, because fool Polish tried to steal from us, when we did not have our legions home. So, think before you write. Poland would not be alive without France or Britain as our state so back off.
@Jjuurraa To defend your country you would have to have balls like Poland had in 1939. Czechs gave away thier nice military equipement and this way helped Germans in invasion on Poland. Your soliders had finished with hussities, wchich I like a lot, after that all forces were pathetic. Czech Republic should unite with Poland and fight back Germans in 1938, then there was a chance for victory and after all Russians would invade us in 1942 and they would stopp in Spain.
@pelewi a nie sme? sme zradcovia vsak sme zbabelo s Nemcimi kolaborovali... Cesi sice nemali sancu chopit sa zbrani ale celu vojnu mali ducha odporu. CO sa o nas Slovakoch povedat neda. A SNP nas sotva rehabilituje. Ina kava je volby 1948... ale to sa zasa na zapdnej hranici blbo pocuva...
@dhagrelad Lebo sme nemali na výber by nás predhodil maďarom jak psom. To máš tak isto ako "prečo sme sa nebránili keď zaberali Nemci sudety a maďari juh Slovenska a Podkarpatskú rus" tak potom je aj vidno po tom roku 1948 že máme každý na seba niečo...
@dhagrelad v cechach bolo poctom viac kolaborantov ako na slovensku, tak nerozpravaj nezmysli, vlastnych zradzovali a kantrili. A SNP nebola zalezitost iba slovakov, aj cesi pomahali. Nezabudej tiez ze s nemcami sme kolaborovali ked na nas z juhu dobiedzali madari a zo severu poliaci. Boli dve moznosti, stat sa protektoratom bez vlastnej spravy, alebo spojencom osy s vlasnou spravou a kontrolou. To ze sme "kolaborovli" zachranilo aj mnoho cechov.
@MadIgor1 Jestli to bude fungovat u této generace vážně pochybuju:-( stačí se podívat jaké nacionalistické nesváry mezi mladými čechy a slováky jsou... Bohužel je to dopad toho,že mocipáni nechali kvůli novým korituům rozpadnout ČSR a vymysleli si u toho taková odůvdonění,že ti druzí jsou prostě Ha....vé...
@LT34CZ uplny suhlas, aj normalny clovek masirovany politikmi sa necha strhnut k nacionalistickym myslienkam. Co potom neskusena mladez a ked si este nevie zratat jedna plus jedna tak tu mame pruser jak v 30tych rokoch. Alebo koncom 40tych.
@MadIgor1 Jedna z nejhorších srážek nacionalistů je právě mezi těmi českými a slovenskými... Bohužel pro většinu (ne všechny) mládeže v čechách je slovo slovák,čobolák atp. urážlivý výraz.. Myslím,že u vás Čechůn (nebo jak to říkají) to samé.... Bohužel to,že jsme vznikli jako jednotný stát a že naši předci neváhali za něj bojovat je zapoimenuto.Dyť k boji kvůli vlastizrádci Beneši nedošlo tak se nic nestalo :-(. Pokud se enzmění situace bude to jen horší.. A to mi dost vadí.. :-((
@Jjuurraa ble ble ble. We sell Poles in 1920 when they fight bolsheviks. He is true. Poles, Czechs, Slovaks should cooperate. We live in same area and have the same faith.
But really I don't know if you realized it or not, but if Germany openly attacked the Czechs, the Poles were in a situation to declare war on Germany, and I'm not kidding, and give help (unlike France or Britain). Romania and Hungary would also be close to our side if they wouldn't already join us to fight the Germans. This alternate history could've resulted in a much longer, or much much shorter WW2, depending if the Russians got involved...
@Jjuurraa really? what happened exactly in 1920? when the czechs got their dirty hands on the stolen territories from the hungarian kingdom (named after that: slovakia)? (benes said when signed the treaty, that there no such nation like slovak ever existed! ) throughout history bohemia, the czechs has been licking the feet of germans, tha habsburgs and russians. u've never fought for ur freedom. in the 2nd WW even tiso, the slovak fascist managed to rule over u with the help of germans..
@kraftakIM you can deny it. it will be still true. name the battles against austria or germany! .. :-p ~0.
what happened exactly to the 3m ethnic germans after WWII? :-p who were born(!) in Bohemia which became part of the later on czechslovakia..
germans occupied the czech part, and formed bohemia/=czech/-moravian protectorate.. only 1 of the 4 nazi leaders was assassinated. heydrich. 2 czech heroes killed him (and a "slovak" (ethnic hungarian)). the others? ..
@kockasfuzetlapunyul though true you were not even in the situation to fight, but you did not even make a situation in which you could fight. not a sin, just dont pretend as if you have won WWs yourselves..
btw no offense, but 1968 is the same. despite i respect the efforts of the czech nation (and leaders that time) to achieve more freedom under SU, but those 5 months were nothing like the german, polish and hungarian days(!). those were real fights you know! and polish, hungarian for freedom!
@kockasfuzetlapunyul So? What is your point? You are the pathethic guy here trying to take a jab at us and put words into our mouths(winning WW2 by ourselves, haha what a bullshit!)
120 border guards have fallen in the fight againts the Freikorps terrorists.
And we had plenty of fighters and brigades in foreign countries. Ever heard about Battle of Sokolovo, Battle of Britain, Kharkov, Tobruk, Carphatian Pocket offense etc.?
Don't call us cowards if you know SH!T about us, dumb magyar troll.
@WolfhoundMercenary french(!) were fucking with germans through you, czechs after WWI.. what you have done with sudeten-germans caused what you have got from 3rd reich. 3rd reich aaaand the slovaks (who stole the languege from you, but all the land of slovakia was from Hungarian Kingdom. your benes said about slovaks that there is no such nation..).
even the slovak fascist tiso government fucked you in your ass so don't pretend you as a country achieved great victories. U DID NOT, U CANNOT.
@kockasfuzetlapunyul btw it's nothing personal. but you know mostly the french and english were those who created f.e. czechslovakias artificial state against germans and hungarians. you czechs kept up mockering germans till 1938-1939. (and continued that after the end of WWII.) when the previously mentioned "democratic" countries weakened because their colonial population fed up with their 'status quo", you - instead of treating at least a bit better germans, just kept on beating them..
@kockasfuzetlapunyul a bit similar happened to poland. though as a hungarian i can truly understand our polish brothers intention in the midwar era to get revenge on those who caused the partition of Poland. but it was not a surprise that Germany attacked Poland. this time it was at least a bit rightful. the northern parts of the reconstructed Poland (from 1918) was the previously former Prussia. and they kept on mocking germans on such territories, which were not really part of Poland even
@kockasfuzetlapunyul before dividing Poland among austria, prussia and russia. unlike czechs, poles have really fought against SU, Germany - at the same time. and its not so mentioned but the tiso led slovak fascist state (which helped to take over part of their "partner"state) helped the german intervention against Poland.
back to the original theme: i don't mind if you, czechs "tell the world" the truth. but tell the full truth.
@kockasfuzetlapunyul and don't come up with false stories that you were seriously involved in WWs.. cause you weren't. not with an official regular army. you were not in that condition. seriously! neither it is bad, nor a sin. just happened that way.
@kockasfuzetlapunyul So you accuse me of "not telling the truth", then you go spreading such lies like the Czechoslovaks did not contributed to war at all? Pathethic hypocrite.
How about the 1st. CS Independent battalion? 1st. CS Armoured Brigade? 11th CS Infantry Battalion? The Czechoslovak "I Corps"? All of them had a combat history, look it up and stop hiding from facts.
What did YOU contribute to WW2 anyway? Nothing, you were Kraut's bitches and hound dogs who were not even good anyway.
@WolfhoundMercenary "spreading such lies like the Czechoslovaks did not contributed to war at all" ROFL. czechslovakia not even existed as czechslovakia at times of world wars you moron.. it was only founded after WWI (f.e. from the territories torn apart from HK, named after that "slovakia" + the czech state was also part of AH dualist(!) empire - so who was licking german ass? czechs..). and de facto not existed during WWII. germans occupied the western czech parts
@kockasfuzetlapunyul of the artificial state made by french and english cause how the czechs treated the 3 million ethnic germans in czs. the "slovak" (you know the nation which not existed according to benes) "part" (decreased by territories partially regained by HK through Munich Conference) became independent, led by chauvinists like their leader tiso was. they've helped Germany to a, take over their new protectorate of bohemia and moravia b, attacked Poland alongside with SU and 3rd reich
@kockasfuzetlapunyul c, deported jews and asked for "bone-money" (so slovak fascists not intended to lend jewish workers for nazis, only wanted their checkbook to be filled once..) d, attacked the SU
HK was not even involved in the WWII from start (whereas slovakia helped german forces against czechs, poles, and russians) we've joined the war and attacked SU AFTER SU bombed city of Kassa (one of the hungarian majority cities which became part of HK again by Munich Conference, Vienna awards).
@kockasfuzetlapunyul every country had "members", official, and irregular "troops", who fought in world wars. but czechslovakia de facto not existed in WWII (before WWI there wasn"t a country name d czechslovakia). it was occupied pre-war by germans, partly with slovak fascist help (who paid for what benes said..). it became bohemia and moravia protectorate, and first slovak republic. (they can be proud of what have they done.. :-p)
numerous czech/bohemian battles and slovak history. ROFL!
How long did it take you to come up with that profound response? 30 seconds? Your comment is just as pathetic and sad as your country's performance in WW2. Jackasses like you always fall back on that tired reply when they can't argue with the facts such as the czech contribution to the Allied war effort.
Only thing you can sling back is insulting Slovaks(whom I don't care about). Pathethic troll.
@WolfhoundMercenary why? you came up with your answer(?) in 17 hours? time does not matter at all. what if i've wrote those in 30 seconds? it's still true. are you arguing with me? not at all. maybe you cannot..
czech contribution? ROFL! (czech contribution: Bitte nein. later on: Het tovarisi.)
so you don't think what slovaks have done to jews, czechs, poles, hungarians (before and after war against hungarians, germans - like you've done to germans) is shameful. you are an ignorant idiot.
@kockasfuzetlapunyul Haha, you are just getting mad that you uneducated magyar huns were Kraut's whores in WW2. You can bitch and moan about our exile paramilitary units all day, still doesn't change the fact we were more meaningful to the war effor than you. Tobruk, Sokolovo, Carpathian pocket, Dunkirq (1944), Kharkov, Dukla, Battle of Britain... LOL and what about you? Perhaps in Budapest when you were chasing chickens over your shitty farm.
@WolfhoundMercenary well probably it would make you happy if your stupidity would have made me or anyone else (except you) mad. not even close. ;-)
hungarians fought against germans. czechs licked their brogues constantly. through centuries. before WWII you mocked german civilians (you know the 3 million sudeten-germans) and you were sooo surprised that Germany oh not attacked, just marched in and took over your country without a fight. and no one cared. not even you.
@kockasfuzetlapunyul And how many battles have you won? Lie some more, horse lord.
Let's see how you handle the fight when you have three major countries backstabbing you in a Munich pact.
We had one of the best armament industry in Europe, and defense line of bunkers possibly better than Maginot's. We could make the Krauts break their teeth on us and then steamroll you huns back into stone age if we wanted(which considering your army status back then wouldn't be too hard).
@WolfhoundMercenary many, and many times we have lost. through which we've respeted our enemies, and they've respected us. germans, habsburgs, russians, ottomans. even after defeats our enemies stated how hard, but great fights were those.
how many battles you have had emoravian? cause except for the "glorious" start (when you were not able to kill a single man) of 1618-1648 (all european countries involved against catholic habsburgs) and austerlitz (habsburg-Napoleon battle) NOTHING happened..
maybe we werent the biggest victors in either war, but at least we werent so openly collaborating with nazi pigs like you and ur country. not exactly something to be proud of
@kockasfuzetlapunyul How about you stay on the topic instead of bitching about Moravians? All I said is that the czech population existed in the dark ages too to counter-argument your lunatic claims of czechs being non-existent.
@WolfhoundMercenary i've stayed on topic. (not as it was compulsory you dumb whoreson.) and why was it necessary to tell that the czech population existed in the dark ages too? no-one denied it. no-one mentioned it. you are falling apart. concentrate!
@WolfhoundMercenary czechs participating in WWII. i've written that czechs because of german occupation were officially not involved in WWII battles. you denied this statement. the rest is history.
we hungarians openly not with full-heart (we gained back the territories of hungarian majority) joined axis forces after SU (mis)bombed Kassa. that was the casus belli, unlike USA's casus belli it was not before-known cause. we were not traitorous or shady like those who helped germans from the start
@kockasfuzetlapunyul What do you mean? I only denied the statement of czechs not contributing to the Allies at all.
Sure we were occupied, but I am talking abotu the exile government and military in both Britain and the Soviet Union.
Hell even czechs such as Josef Buršík or Otakar Janoš were awarded the "Hero of the Soviet Union" with the Janoš's face being used on 1969 post stamps
And nor were we. I think the people you are looking at should be Romanians or even the French and British.
@WolfhoundMercenary ever heard of dutch or danish who fought against germans? .. czech part of artificial state of czechslovakia was occupied by germans. the slovak fascists attacked Poland helping germans (and SU), and helped the german take-over in bohemia-moravian protectorate. end of line.
and if you had not been not so into mocking, killing of the 3 million sudeten-germans one could say you were innocent victims..
@WolfhoundMercenary "Hell even czechs such as Josef Buršík or Otakar Janoš were awarded the "Hero of the Soviet Union" with the Janoš's face being used on 1969 post stamps"
you can be proud. in 1969 there were on the czechslovak stamps "two heads" who served the SU, baceuse it was against 3rd Reich after a time. the SU, which oppressed their pathetic little slavic brothers for 40 years. the SU which in 1968 oppressed the czech dreams..
btw HK was way older than the XIXth century "united", founded germany or italy, older than russia, older than (that time partitioned) poland, and bohemia (with only decades, but older). and during these so many years we've fought with many enemies. our ancestors never bowed to romans, but defeated them.
i don't care if you say that you are proud czech. you can be. but stop the bullshit about your important role in WWII as combattants..
However, I never said we could single handely win the war. I am just getting tired of people like you who just have to make it sound like we didn't do squat in the war. We did, even though not on the scale of the Soviet Union, but we still did.
@WolfhoundMercenary just to inform you the czechslovakia was one state.. and slovaks attacked with germany AAANNND with SU Poland. so what are you talking? as czechs you could not do anything with germans standing on your neck. the other part of the sop called czechslovakia willingly heéped germans, despite the fact they had issues with them, because germany was one country, which through Vienna award gave back most of the hungarian majority territories to HK. you were shady. that is all.
@kockasfuzetlapunyul You mean: every country is shady. Lumping every one of us in the nazi seems kinda ignorant.
I am not denying there was scum nor we were saint, but there were also numerous resistance groups such as the Three Kings(Mašín, Balabán, Morávek), Out Distance, or the people cooperating with the SAS paratroopers.
@WolfhoundMercenary "Lumping every one of us in the nazi seems kinda ignorant." freud.. see the benes decrees for more information.. that benes who stated about slovaks that there was no such nation (when he signed the peace treaty washington DC 1922 with USA) made such laws as in-exile-government president and after WWII (the so called benes decrees) which stated f.e. that all germans and all hungarians are collectively guilty. AND THOSE DECREES ARE IN USE EVEN NOWADAYS AGAINST ALL!
@WolfhoundMercenary every country had non-official troops. again: non official.
and about czechslovakia participating in world wars. in WWI it not existed. it was made up by england, and france to finish off germany and hungary. you czechs mocked the 3m sudeten-germans constantly (that was the cause of german occupation!), the slovaks mocked hungarians on their birthplace which was never slovakia, and not even czechslovakia. the whole territory was torn apart from Hungarian Kingdom!
@kockasfuzetlapunyul with only 46% of slavic people living there, the majority in the western parts cities were german, hungarian, the eastern cities hungarian. (over 80%!). most of the ethnic hungarians lived and are living (depite such laws like benes decrees, or the "lightened" slovakian everyday life: see malina hedvig case and so on) near the 1920, 1945 forcefully formed unjust borders made by not even czechs, slovaks by battle.. but by french. and they've also made it mostly by "table"..
@kockasfuzetlapunyul Hungarian Kingdom got back only small parts of her torn apart territories. and not all of those with hungarian majority! did you know that f.e. Pozsony (now named bratislava - which had a normal tót-slovak name: Presporek, and czechslovaks wanted to name it at a time (after WWI) "Wilsonovo" after president of the USA Wilson till they've been told that Wilson wanted to grant territories for ethnical majority, and powerful rights to minorities..) was 83% german and hungarian?
@kockasfuzetlapunyul Pozsony was an important city (later on one of the free-royal cities with several rights) from 907 when after a serious battle with germans(!) of the hungarian principality, and from 1000.01.01. 00:00 it was part of the Hungarian Kingdom till 1920.06.04. 16:35 when the peace dictate of trianon had to be signed..
bratislava.. shame of europe.
but to continue. the role czechslovakia played (or not played) in WWII. czech parts were occupied by germans. already told why..
@kockasfuzetlapunyul but the slovaks. they were okay with their freedom. they were free from czech supremacy (as they've felt the 1920-1938 era - even hlinka a slovak chauvinist told once, that slovaks were way happier in Hungarian Kingdom with hungarians).
the tiso led fascist slovakia was not a puppet state, and was way more than a collaborant. THEY'VE ATTACKED POLAND WITH GERMANY AND SU! so slovakia HAD enough military force to that.. still there was no sign of objection.
@kockasfuzetlapunyul if you whine now that there was the so called "slovak national uprising". that's the same category like f.e. the romanian. lies, lies, lies. when the germans lost the eastern war slovak fascist realized the following: czechs: OK; hungarians: not OK (because HK gained back partly its torn apart territories - with the help of germans, italians; english, french agreed), germans: NOT OK, other slavics coming, the SU: NOT OK. so when the germans were busy with occupieing HK,
@kockasfuzetlapunyul because governor Horthy was fed up with the german requests (those what were fullfilled willingly previously by slovaks, romanians when the WW started(!). f.e. slovaks not just literally selled the jews for nazi germany. that was the fascist slovak bone-money. the jewish - no-return fund slovakian style..), and nazis had been full-handed with soviets. czechslovaks pretended as there had been a serious uprising in the more than collaborant slovakia. no one cared that time!
@kockasfuzetlapunyul and when the soviets arrived and only passed through the czech parts, the czechs who were really happy that the panslavic dreams came true again. that time in reality. (and for almost 40 years after war cause you "friends" remained in the whole region - remeber your 1968*). but as the soviets rushed towards berlin no russian soldier remained in czech protectorate. 1945. may 7.: the brave czechs made a peace with the just SU-beaten germans.. interesting right?
@kockasfuzetlapunyul *it may seem as an offfense, though it is not, cause i am truly respecting the will for freedom, but its a fact that in 1968, when the SU oppressed the czech economical will of freedom; the fights were just like the "slovak national uprising" in 1944, mentioned before.. in Berlin, in Poland, in Hungary those were uprisings and freedom fights (more than a decade before as of 1968..)
@kockasfuzetlapunyul 1953-Berlin: 1(!) day: 500 dead | 1956-Poznan: 2 days: 86 dead | 1956-Hungary: 12 days (most of them were peaceful days!): 2500 hungarian civilians and 720 soviet soldiers (those with armored vehicles, tanks) | 1968-Czech(slovakia): 5 months: 108 dead.. - may R.I.P. all heroes who fought, but among those 108, there is f.e. (and here is the quote from a czech site for english-knowing visitors): "Felled by a Soviet tank while riding a motorcycle" - died. in accident! hmmm..
We've never mocked anyone you fool, that's a propaganda made by you nazi apologist whiners to justify murder of thousands of czech people by the Freikorps terorrist units you forget so much.
You have a problem with us? So what? Cry some more please
Also, did you really wrote like 13 different replies in less than an hour? Pathethic. If I knew you were such a dumb keyboard thug with no real life I would not waste my time with you.
@WolfhoundMercenary you are an idiot. i've written every aspects of the story. if you don't understand a word from it, that's not my fault. my point was from the very beginning, that pretending that the czechs and czechslovakia were really fighting in world war was nonsense. i won't repeat myself again.
i could have told you all this in just one comment. but hey! you did not understand it from even 13 (yt limited) comments.. LOL!
@kockasfuzetlapunyul All I've seen so far is you bitching and going off the topic with stuff such as the commie occupation in 1968 and such. That's no way in hell related to the czechoslovak soldiers in WW2.
Since you obviously fail at understanding basic logic= rephrasing:
Czechs contributed to the Allied effort. There were foreign army divisions and government.
What part of this you don't understand? You keep ranting about CZ not existing, but must have missed the "foreign" part of the name!
@WolfhoundMercenary read through the comments, everything has been written. if you don't see connections, or points, that must be your problem. i won't answer you again with these.
btw my point was the whole time, that don't pretend you had been combattants in WWII. that's a disgrace to all other countries who suffered seriously and lost hundredthousands (a few even over million(s)) of manpower. did fe. hollandia fight in WWII? see? and czechs were not even innocent victims..
@kockasfuzetlapunyul I've shown you numerous battles, skirmishes and foreign divisions with us Czechs involved and you still proceed to call them non-combatants? What were those guys then? Civilians?
Or maybe it's the fact that such a small country actually managed to fight for the Allies while you Hungar swines were Nazi's bitches the entire time?
It's not my fault you are being denial over it. History has been made, and dumb yokels such as yourself will NOT rewrite it. Get lost, Hungar
@kockasfuzetlapunyul the skoda factory (which was the habsburg-german ruled "bohemanian" factory) continued its work. made weapons for germans. the so called czech contribution, right, right, right - little malchik.. :-D
kingdom of moravia? LOL! only christian kingdom could survive in this territory. thats why you founded your kingdom about the same time like we hungarians and poles. before that we also had principalities, and pagan kingdoms, like you, BUT we were independent!
@kockasfuzetlapunyul you were the mostly slavic underlings of germans, previously franks, "romans". f.e. in 907 we fought against your german masters at Pozsony, not some self-throwned pagan czech king.. you licked the feet of germans for over a thousand years.. not a single fight alone against them..
back to WWII, and one of your fresh comment, you have written 18 hours by now. "but we had numerous exile troops and official battalions". i "answered" this 3 days ago, you blind emoravian..
@kockasfuzetlapunyul ŠKODA factory was created by Emil Škoda who was czech Same as ČKD, but I don't think an undeducated pony lord such as yourself would know the difference. xD
Still nice to see you are not capable of arguing facts. How many battles have you won again? IN how many crucial skirmishes were you involved? Your shitty military even had to use our Avia fighter planes LOL
Good thing Krauts occupied your ass after you wanted to negotiate the peace treaty with the US and UK.
@WolfhoundMercenary Not to mention your pathethic 2nd army got crushed in the Battle of Stalingrad where a bunch of half-armed rabble sliced through you like a butter in the Battle of Voronezh and pretty much the whole Hungarian army ceased to exist as an effective fighting force afterwards. LOL
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stejne kazdy Cech a Moravak a Slezan ma v sobe trochu nemecke krve .Vime to ,jen si to nechceme priznat ....Ja jsem na to hrdy ,to nas rozdeluje od vychodnich Slovanu .,
napajedlacek 1 month ago
stejne kazdy Cech a Moravak a Slezan ma v sobe trochu nemecke krve .Vime to ,jen si to nechceme priznat ....Ja jsem na to hrdy ,to nas rozdeluje od vychodnich Slovanu .,
napajedlacek 1 month ago
@napajedlacek Vážně? Předpokládám, že ty by si byl jeden z těch, který by v té době hrdě hajloval a bojovat za říši co? :D
czechoslovakpatriot 1 month ago
@czechoslovakpatriot Nenamáhej se s ním dohadovat. Znám ho z jiných videí a je to hnusnej kolaborantskej nácek co se stydí že je slovan a radši by kouřil ptáky germánům.
WolfhoundMercenary 2 weeks ago
@WolfhoundMercenary :D díky za upozornění... To, že je to kolaborant mi bylo jasné podle toho, co tu psal.
czechoslovakpatriot 2 weeks ago
@napajedlacek geneticky je to kromaňonec :) švéd, kelt, markoman a kvád, východní slovan má zase v sobě tatara, kyrgizstánce atd. 100 procent slovanská krev neexistuje :)
Persitv2 1 day ago
Ať žije ČSR 1938!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
klimis87 2 months ago
I really dunno whats your problem. like it or not, the czechoslovak foreign army division and legion was indeed involved in lot of allied battles.
why do you keep arguing about existence of the czechoslovak state? it was a protectorate sure, but as wolf says there were still a lot of foreign and exile OFFICIAL legions. seems like you are the one here trying to deny our efforts in WW2 in order to fix your inferiority complex.
Ascalanthe 4 months ago 2
Google translator rulez over your dirty hun language ;)
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary my ass is your mother, but i won't ever fuck her not even if she's laying on your younger sister's back. you don't need to get up early just once infantczech to get a slap in your face, what sends your head back to your whoreson german ruler's butt, from which he had let you go, cause of his diarrhea what sated you through a thousand year cycle. you fucker swedish-coffee dealer.
:-D
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul swedish coffee dealer is connected to 1618-1648.
when the "civilized" "democratic" and so on french attacked cities, with castles, and found the "civilians", they have tortured them in various styles. f.e. the swedish-coffee was the invention of that time. french soldiers have primed their victims with litres of muddy water, then stomped on them till dead and gone.
the kuvanő fia német was mentioned in one of the hungarian codexes from the time we've fought habsburgs.
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul
I understand with all this talk of ass and sister fucking that you've proabably suffered terrible trauma in your childhood so I won't make fun of the likely fact that your mother used to get beat up or raped by your father, as in most nigga homes. And if you get into spamming your lunatic-obsessed tantrums, I will royally kick your freedom-of-babble here, up your scrawny hate-cult indoctrinated ass in a lovely ban.
:P
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
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Not to mention the paratroopers who assassinated Reinhard Heydrich were czechs Jan Kubiš and Slovak Josef Gabčík.
You Huns only wish to have contributed to the war like us or the Polish.
Oh wait, methinks you were Nazi collaboratos, so I guess no :D
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary you not surprisingly don't know the difference between collaborators and allies. french vichy, norwegian quisling were collaborators. so was tiso, the slovak fascist. and the germans had czechs who served them willingly in the bohemian-moravian protectorate.
romanians were always traitorous, even before the ottomans left the territory on which they've founded rumania. but at least for a short time they were allies of germany in WWII.
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul Uh, my point is that both of these afromentioned groups support the nazi machinery.
For example Viktor Čurda, the infamous collaborator and betrayer.
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WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
Czechs would annihilate the german swines.
WolfhoundMercenary 5 months ago
czcech - :D a kdo ma aspon vystudovanou zakladni skolu tak vi co to znamena slovo "alternativni" :D:D:D
MallenDnB 10 months ago
@MallenDnB Nejspíš naráží na skutečnost, že zdkáčka v 38 ještě nebyly stejně jako MPčka a flak 88 by se do první linie neměl možnost ani dostat ;-). Jednak jeho víceúčelové využití našli později a jednak by nikdo neriskoval zničení protivzdušného kanónu, který vté době nebyl až tak častým úkazem ;-)
czechoslovakpatriot 10 months ago
@MallenDnB A kdo se v roce 1938 vyzná tak ví že většinu techniky co je ve videu 3. Říše neměla
czcech 5 months ago
Kdo je znalcem historie tak ví že toto si někdo s rokem 1938 spletl.
czcech 10 months ago
je mi československých vojáků líto ale jsem na ně hrdý že někteří zůstali věrní a šli bojovat proti němcům kamkoliv to šlo např. do anglie do severní afriky nebo do ruska.dokonce jsem četl že někteří šli i proti japoncům a také že bojovali i na den D
TheSinek222 11 months ago
Ani si nedokážu představit tu beznaděj a vztek co museli cítit naši vojáci po podepsání mnichova.
Alfred1950cz 1 year ago
@Alfred1950cz Otázka na koho byli vzteklí víc. Na zrádné "spojence" nebo na Beneše? Nicméně, ne všichni spojenci zradili...
czechoslovakpatriot 1 year ago
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MrKataklysm 1 year ago
Keby že sme neakceptovali mníchov. tak by Nemci dostali pekne na hubu.. možno by sme nevyhrali ale rozbili by sme im pekný pár divízií.. ved vtedajšia armáda ČSR patrila medzi špičku..
Darstrem 1 year ago
@Darstrem To máš pravdu, na pohraničí pevné pevnosti a na horách(jakoby nějaký dar) a 2 miliony vojáků(včetně mobilizace) Nemci by se divili až by jim tam pochcípalo milion vojáků a 1000 tanků:-)
czcech 1 year ago
@czcech Ale zápomíná se an naše zálohy. My narozdíl od Ády mohli povolat muže, kteří se v letech 1927-34 vyhli základní vojenské službě ;-)
czechoslovakpatriot 1 year ago
neni to něm dělo z 1944?
DOMINIK99013 1 year ago
@DOMINIK99013 Jestli dělo těžko říct, ale Sdkáčka v 38 roce ještě nebyly ve službě ;-)
czechoslovakpatriot 1 year ago
tak čtu knihu o 2.světové válce na území ČR a tam stojí, že že v průběhu jednoho týdne v sudetách NAŠI VOJÁCI zabyli na několik stovek němců a zničili několik desítek tanků, než byli stáhnuti!!! to samé sem našel v jednom odborném časopise a na internetu!!!
MCquest96 1 year ago
@MCquest96 Kde přesně se to dá najít? To by mě docela zajímalo.
czechoslovakpatriot 1 year ago
@MCquest96 Zaby v mliku? Nic jineho to nemuze byt, a to je ALTERNATIVNI, tedy vymyslena, nikoliv skutecna historie
deabajo 11 months ago
Nevíte někdo název tý písničky?
Loketairsoft 1 year ago
Sakra měli jsme se bránit.Měli jsme na to.Navíc jsme měli i podporu fracouzů.Vždiť já bydlím přímo v srdci Sudet.
Loketairsoft 1 year ago
@Loketairsoft Francouzi nám sdělili, že pokud území Německu neodstoupíme (a nevyřešíme též územní požadavky Polska a Maďarska, jak předpokládala Mnichovská dohoda), nejen, že nám nepomohou, ale budeme ještě označeni za viníka války.
Válka byla nesmysl, na 100 % bychom ji prohráli. Ale měli jsme se bránit, alespoň chvíli, stejně jako Srbsko při útoku NATO, odstoupení bez války nás duševně nalomilo. (Jinak není pravda, že jsme nebojovali - 120 mužů v roce 1938 padlo v bojích s teroristy.)
Haharin1587 1 year ago
@Haharin1587 POZOR ne 100 % ne ČS měla pře milion vojáků a velmi dobrou výzbroj a techniku atd. ! a že sme nebojovali ano bojovali v tom souhlasím ale čechů bojovalo mnohonásobně více ! v cizineckých legiích , RAF , atd.
1adamhaj 1 year ago
@1adamhaj Ano, na zahraniční vojáky (a domácí odboj!) samozřejmě nesmí být zapomenuto. A svým způsobem je možné připojit i československé prapory ve španělské občanské válce, protože též bojovali nepřímo proti Německu.
Čsl. armáda byla v roce 1938 velká, silná a dobře vyzbrojená. Byl by to těžký protivník. Ale útok třech států skoro po celé délce našich hranic, s vnitřním nepřítelem (německé, polské a maďarské teroristické skupiny), bez jakékoli pomoci a v dokonalé mezinárodní izolaci?
Haharin1587 1 year ago
@Haharin1587 ano netvrdím že bysme vyhráli ! i když bych si to přál ! ono v podstatě teď se omlouvám nám to POSRALI francouzi nedodržením spoj. smluv ! a pak nás dorazila mnichovská dohoda :( a v neposlední řadě slabý a starý prezident který nebyl schopen vzdorovat hitlerovi ( PS: já myslým že to byl Hácha ? ale nesjem si jistý omlouvám se že to nevím mám špatnou paměť
1adamhaj 1 year ago
@Haharin1587 kde se porad berou ty "fakta", ze bysme bojovali bey pomoci? Existovala tu Mala dohoda a SSSR svou pomoc nepodminovalo nicim...
deabajo 11 months ago
@deabajo to sa teda mylis .sovietska pomoc bola podmienena tym ze ak by nam pomohli francuzi tak vtedy by nam sovieti pomohli
technorocker1986 11 months ago
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deabajo 11 months ago
@technorocker1986
Ano, tu podminku si vyminil Benes nikoliv Stalin, ale ten i pres to, ze Francouzi pomoc odmitli, nabizel Benesovi dodrzeni smlouvy ye strany SSSR i bez francouzu...
deabajo 11 months ago
@deabajo
Malá dohoda - Československo, Jugoslávie a Rumunsko - se všema vydrbali Maďaři a Beneš pomoc od SSSR odmítl.
DusHan362 8 months ago
@Haharin1587 Zmetci.Teď čtu knížku Akta Hitler a tam Hitler říká ža měla franciel větší armádu neš jeho Wehrmacht.Sakra měli ho utlačit dřív než se rozrostl.
Loketairsoft 1 year ago
@Loketairsoft Osobně nepochybuji, že kdyby naši spojenci splnili své závazky, válku bychom vyhráli.
Haharin1587 1 year ago
@Haharin1587 stou prohrou bych si nebyl tak jistej,nemci nemneli palivo a munici a byli silne zadluzenej stat!dalsim faktem jsou nasi generalove,neco si precti o Vojcechvskym,Prchaloj,Luzoj,Krejcim,Ingr,Husarek....120muzu??to nepocitas padle SOSky...
oliin100 1 year ago
@oliin100 Těch 120 je i se sosáky. Ono je to hodně, každý den padlo několik mužů. Na to, že nebyla vyhlášená válka, jde o velmi vysoké číslo.
Ještě jeden faktor by tady měl zaznít - Slováci. Velká části z nich nebyla moc pročeskoslovenská, navíc je naši nepřátelé proti nám neustále poštívali. Čsl. branná moc se v zásadě opírala o české vojáky a český důstojnický sbor.
Haharin1587 1 year ago
@Haharin1587 nemal by si ale zabudnu t ze aj slovaci bojovali po boku s cechmi vo velkej bittke o anglicko a ze sma mali velke zasluhy na porazeni luftwaffe .Myslim spolocne cesi aj slovaci
technorocker1986 11 months ago
@technorocker1986 Jo a kdopak vyhlásil samostatný stát den před okupací Čech a potom dodával Německu vojáky a šel za ně bojovat na východní frontu??Slováci.
Montezuma1231 7 months ago
Pro Jjuurra víš, že Němci neměli transportéry Sdkfz 251 ve výzbroji v 38 roce, ale až v 39...
S průběhem boje ve videu souhlasím, ale vadí mi jak na těchto akcích míchají ti "členové klubu vojenské historie" techniku do 38 roku, přičemž její vývoj a zařazení spadali do pozdějších dob...
czechoslovakpatriot 1 year ago
toto je z vojencké akce cihelna králiky že??? Hezké video
faxafox 1 year ago
kdyby jsem se bránili, tak by jsme jim sice udělali docela velký ztráty díky opevnění na hranici s Německem, ale oni měli připravenou armádu i v Rakousku a tam jsme moc silné opevnění neměli takže by tu docela rychle prorazili a obklíčili naše vojáky na severu. Vláda měla ještě připravenou evakuaci na Slovensko a přeskupení, ale to už by nepomohlo. Navíc už když nám sebrali sudety tak na nás zaútočili Poláci na Těšínsku a Msďaři na jihu Slovenska.
Cherember 1 year ago
@Cherember Polsko by umírňovali Rusové. A proti Maďarsku jsme měli zaručenou pomoc od Rumunska.Oba státy by v případě agrese poláků a maďarů zasáhli,čímž by je "zneutralizovali". Tvrzení že se na nás vyflákli všichni spojenci je pěkná blbost,které by neměl nikdo věřit. A na jižní moravě byly opevnění stavěné mnohem dřív než nějaký hitler přišel k moci. A Pzkpfw I měl jen kulomet.A tím by osádku v bunkru nezničil... Ani v tom lehkém.
LT34CZ 1 year ago
@LT34CZ No mas pravdu ze s Pzkpfw 1 by osadku bunkru neznicil ale zapominas na to ze v te dobe meli nemci docela ucine delostrelectvo a letadla technicky lepsi nad nasemi a zadruhe v te dobe nemeli Nemci jen pzkpfw 1ale i Pzkpfw 2 a 3 s 50mm delem
Witman34 1 year ago
@Witman34 pz...2 v roce 1939.pz...3 v roce 1940... Dělostřelectvo měli účinné jen díky tomu,že od nás přebrali veškerou výzbroj víceméně bez boje. To,že maginetovu linii odstřelovali s našimi 300 mm hmoždíři neví skoro nikdo.ŽE se flag až nápadně moc podobá našemu protiletadlovému dělu neví taky skoro nikdo... A s letectvem to tak slavné taky neměli.Jen zjišťovat a číst témata,kde se už ohledně tohoto mluvilo....
LT34CZ 1 year ago
@Witman34 /trochu přesněji -němci měli v hojném počtu pzkw-1 s 2x 7,92 mm,/ méně pzkw 2 s 1x 7,92 a 1x 20mm velkorážný kulomet- ale k němu nedostatek střeliva,/ a asi 40 pzkw 3 s 37 mm kanonem /a prý 30ks pzkw 4 se 75mm krátkým kanonem nevhodný pro boj s tanky- měl sloužit pro podporu pěchoty. Neměli žádný kanon schopný spolehlivě bořit bunkry, tanky by se museli dostávat přes vynikající systém pt překážek,( které se osvědčili i proti modernějším tankům) Ivo
pe2linka 1 year ago
@pe2linka Jak píšeš. Pzkpfw měli jak nas... ale jejich bojová hodnota proti jiným tankům je ubohá. Pz..II nastoupili do služby až v roce 1939 a upřímně 20 mm rychlopalný kanón (kulomet) je proti tanku taky na nic. Pz..3 přišel až v roce 1940-ironií,že dřív přišel pz...4 (koncem r. 1939)
LT34CZ 1 year ago
czesi nie oddali ani jednego strzalu.
154andrzej 1 year ago
Jo to jsem videl v Kralikach ale chybi tu ten nalet.
SpacewolfCZ 1 year ago
kurvy nemecke!
milanSK1980 1 year ago
w 39 jak by Polska i Czesi poszli razem na niemcow,to bysmy szybko pobili szwabow,Slawa !
pikoable 1 year ago 6
W tym czasie nebyliśmy sojusznikami.
polgardi 1 year ago
polgardi niestety,szkoda.
pikoable 1 year ago
@pikoable Masz pravde, napewno.
polgardi 1 year ago
@pikoable
Poland profitted from the Munich Agreement, as well. Only this enabled Beck's government to annex (or better to say, STEAL) the northern Orava and Spiš (Zips) from Slovakia.
Even ČSR couldn't be an ally of Poland - their interests were completely different.
Needless to mention the countless crimes against ethnic Germans in pre-war Poland (murders, persecution, Polonisation, almost no German schools)...
walterdonath 5 months ago
Brawo Czesi, bić Niemców. Szkoda że w 1939 roku nie byliśmy razem.
Exterowicz 2 years ago 13
@Exterowicz 1939 už bylo pozdě..............
vozn100 7 months ago
@Exterowicz
Poland profitted from the Munich Agreement, as well. Only this enabled Beck's government to annex (or better to say, STEAL) the northern Orava and Spiš (Zips) from Slovakia.
Even ČSR couldn't be an ally of Poland - their interests were completely different.
Needless to mention the countless crimes against ethnic Germans in pre-war Poland (murders, persecution, Polonisation, almost no German schools)...
walterdonath 5 months ago
If you wood stand up to the herr Hitler in 1938 (I'M sorry if you and yours country man wood not be sale out by GB,Fr in Munich, the gerat pece saver Chamberlain ) Your army ect, wood stop the germans od the fortifications for some time. And if Polish and Czechoslovakian Politics wood not be so deam proud the history may be difrent today.
Short but realistic clip 5/5
majorRajn 2 years ago
The Czechs and Slovaks would have put up a good resistance to Hitlerin 1938. Stupid Chamberlain didn't hav e the "pelotas" to stand up to Hitler. Too buy "appeasing" Hitler.
alextubeta19 2 years ago
Nevěděl by prosím někdo, co je to za hudbu? Díky moc za odpověď
kada003 2 years ago
@kada003 taky zištuju;)
MichalUrbanec 2 years ago
Long live Czech repulic
RobertBF2 2 years ago
Rozdělení byla chyba, když mi někdo řekne že se to už nemůže vrátit, tak se ho zeptám kolik lidí věřilo před 17. listopadem že padne socialismus. nebojte se!! podpořte nás!!!
AdaxCZ 2 years ago 2
Ahoj lidi, rozhodli sme se oživit myšlenku Československa. Na facebooku je založená skupina Vrať seČeskoslovensko... Hodí se nám každý člen. Musí nás být mnoho aby se o nás mluvilo. Zatím je to v začátcích, ale jednou nás bude mnoho. Všichni kdo sou pro, přidejte se a podpořte naši myšlenku.
AdaxCZ 2 years ago
Ahoj, je pre mňa viac ako potešiteľné, že po 17-tich rokoch sa objavujú mladí ľudia z Čiech, ktorí spomínajú na Československo s nostalgiou. Pamätám si totiž na to, ako mnoho Čechov kričali "ať si jdou!" pričom sa tlačili české dvesto korunáčky už v roku 1992, teda rok pred rozdelením. Spomínam si však aj na to ako Slováci v Bratislave skoro rozbili Havlovi prezidendské auto, keď prišiel na demoštráciu za nezávislosť.
soderbergh1 2 years ago
Já vzpomínám jen na to co bylo hezké.O vztazích mezi Čechy a Slováky nemá cenu diskutovat.Každý má na to jiný názor.Já osobně jsem rád,že jsme šli každý svou cestou.Jsme si podobní,ale vlastně každý jiný a na zásadních problémech by se naši politici nikdy nedohodli.Proto dnes,kdy nás netíží národnostní šarvátky,máme k sobě jaksi blíž.
polgardi 2 years ago 2
Československo je už minulosťou. Veľmi málo ľudí verilo a verí Slovákom, že obstojíme a nestratíme sa. Čoskoro bude mať Slovenská republika toľko rokov ako mala 1. Československá republika. Verte nám, že pôjdeme ďalej. Verte nám, že Slováci sú Vaši najlepší priatelia, a verte nám, že spomíname na Československo s úctou...trebárs aj na Facebooku.
soderbergh1 2 years ago
Peace dude! :)
soderbergh1 2 years ago
Brawo bracia Czesi!!!!!!!!
szarapiechota 2 years ago
Němci a 70 těžkejch tanků ? v roce 38?! lidi jděte si o německé připravenosti na válku něco přečíst.A k podkarpatské rusi, poslední československá jednotka z ní ustopila a složila zbraně 4 dny po oficiálním zániku republiky.
TarkCZ 2 years ago
ano nemci byli silnejsi ale v pripade nasi vojenske obrany by nam pomohli soveti coz by nevedlo k tomu jak se nechali od nemcu napalit, spojence by to mozna trklo a vstoupili by take do valky... nebo by se na nas soveti vysrali a vse by bylo zase uplne jinak z cehoz vypliva ze KDYBY nema cenu resit
TheHasislerka 2 years ago
Nádherný video, ale i tak, Československo by nemělo šanci proti Němcům, na to by už bylo pozdě.
DeltaWolf19 2 years ago
@DeltaWolf19 Co když německo nemělo šanci proti československu? Ivo
pe2linka 1 year ago
In 1938 Poland occupied only small territory where Polish People were in majority. But taking that political and military action in such dramatic for Czechoslovakias moment was a bad mistake. Its shame for us! Thats a pity Poles and Czechs couldnt cooperate for protection our states against Hitler. We remember that 1000 Czechs was fighting arm in arm with Polish soldiers against Germans aggression in 1939. Im doing homage to these brave Czechs.
MrZibis 2 years ago 4
Your nation is seller ( Polska) !! Together with GB, Fr, you sell our nation to Germany!!! Only USSR and Yugoslavia and Rumania, were AVG.. Polish ppl, were rats, likes hungarian, slovakians and others...
Jjuurraa 2 years ago
You're misunderstood, Poland had no control whatsoever on Czechoslovakia. They never were present at the Munich conference. Last time I checked, there were only 4 nations present: Britain (Chamberlain), France (Daladier), Italy (Mussolinni), and Germany (Hitler).
Yes you're right, Romania and Yugoslavia were our allies, but what could they do? They were nothing against the industrial powerhouse called "The Third Reich".
If the USSR would've been able to defend us, Unor 1948 in 1938.
DeltaWolf19 2 years ago
DeltaWolf,
Thank you for your sensible point of view.
All the best to the Czechs. I mean it.
factualinfo 2 years ago
Thank you.
DeltaWolf19 2 years ago
@Jjuurraa A pot is calling a kettle black. Twenty years before, in January 1919 it was newly born Czechoslovakia, that stabbed Poland (fighting bolsheviks at the time) in the back . A year later, when Soviet armies reached Warsaw, it was the Czechs again who stopped transports with supplies from the West.
The similar treacherous measure Czechs applied to Hungary, taking ethnically pure Hungarian lands in today's southern Slovakia in June 1920.
What goes around comes around...
yerbamatt 1 year ago
You must be joking... Czechoslovakia was sacrificed, and right after the western powers said, that they will wage war for the polish cicrus with horses and sabres. But we saw, how did Poland degend itself... True heroes, who surrendered in few weeks.
We stopped transports, because fool Polish tried to steal from us, when we did not have our legions home. So, think before you write. Poland would not be alive without France or Britain as our state so back off.
Eru1933 1 year ago
@Jjuurraa To defend your country you would have to have balls like Poland had in 1939. Czechs gave away thier nice military equipement and this way helped Germans in invasion on Poland. Your soliders had finished with hussities, wchich I like a lot, after that all forces were pathetic. Czech Republic should unite with Poland and fight back Germans in 1938, then there was a chance for victory and after all Russians would invade us in 1942 and they would stopp in Spain.
tmatinsalo 1 year ago
@Jjuurraa Prečo aj Slováci sú krysy?
pelewi 1 year ago
@pelewi a nie sme? sme zradcovia vsak sme zbabelo s Nemcimi kolaborovali... Cesi sice nemali sancu chopit sa zbrani ale celu vojnu mali ducha odporu. CO sa o nas Slovakoch povedat neda. A SNP nas sotva rehabilituje. Ina kava je volby 1948... ale to sa zasa na zapdnej hranici blbo pocuva...
dhagrelad 1 year ago
@dhagrelad Lebo sme nemali na výber by nás predhodil maďarom jak psom. To máš tak isto ako "prečo sme sa nebránili keď zaberali Nemci sudety a maďari juh Slovenska a Podkarpatskú rus" tak potom je aj vidno po tom roku 1948 že máme každý na seba niečo...
pelewi 1 year ago
@dhagrelad v cechach bolo poctom viac kolaborantov ako na slovensku, tak nerozpravaj nezmysli, vlastnych zradzovali a kantrili. A SNP nebola zalezitost iba slovakov, aj cesi pomahali. Nezabudej tiez ze s nemcami sme kolaborovali ked na nas z juhu dobiedzali madari a zo severu poliaci. Boli dve moznosti, stat sa protektoratom bez vlastnej spravy, alebo spojencom osy s vlasnou spravou a kontrolou. To ze sme "kolaborovli" zachranilo aj mnoho cechov.
MadIgor1 1 year ago
@MadIgor1 Jestli to bude fungovat u této generace vážně pochybuju:-( stačí se podívat jaké nacionalistické nesváry mezi mladými čechy a slováky jsou... Bohužel je to dopad toho,že mocipáni nechali kvůli novým korituům rozpadnout ČSR a vymysleli si u toho taková odůvdonění,že ti druzí jsou prostě Ha....vé...
LT34CZ 1 year ago
@LT34CZ uplny suhlas, aj normalny clovek masirovany politikmi sa necha strhnut k nacionalistickym myslienkam. Co potom neskusena mladez a ked si este nevie zratat jedna plus jedna tak tu mame pruser jak v 30tych rokoch. Alebo koncom 40tych.
MadIgor1 1 year ago
@MadIgor1 Jedna z nejhorších srážek nacionalistů je právě mezi těmi českými a slovenskými... Bohužel pro většinu (ne všechny) mládeže v čechách je slovo slovák,čobolák atp. urážlivý výraz.. Myslím,že u vás Čechůn (nebo jak to říkají) to samé.... Bohužel to,že jsme vznikli jako jednotný stát a že naši předci neváhali za něj bojovat je zapoimenuto.Dyť k boji kvůli vlastizrádci Beneši nedošlo tak se nic nestalo :-(. Pokud se enzmění situace bude to jen horší.. A to mi dost vadí.. :-((
LT34CZ 1 year ago
@Jjuurraa ble ble ble. We sell Poles in 1920 when they fight bolsheviks. He is true. Poles, Czechs, Slovaks should cooperate. We live in same area and have the same faith.
MrLasicak 1 year ago
@Jjuurraa ..and we hate you too :D
But really I don't know if you realized it or not, but if Germany openly attacked the Czechs, the Poles were in a situation to declare war on Germany, and I'm not kidding, and give help (unlike France or Britain). Romania and Hungary would also be close to our side if they wouldn't already join us to fight the Germans. This alternate history could've resulted in a much longer, or much much shorter WW2, depending if the Russians got involved...
buildingeverything 1 year ago
@Jjuurraa really? what happened exactly in 1920? when the czechs got their dirty hands on the stolen territories from the hungarian kingdom (named after that: slovakia)? (benes said when signed the treaty, that there no such nation like slovak ever existed! ) throughout history bohemia, the czechs has been licking the feet of germans, tha habsburgs and russians. u've never fought for ur freedom. in the 2nd WW even tiso, the slovak fascist managed to rule over u with the help of germans..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 10 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul umíš česky?
Montezuma1231 7 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul The part about Slovakia is true but the rest is bullshit. Go back to school.
kraftakIM 7 months ago
@kraftakIM you can deny it. it will be still true. name the battles against austria or germany! .. :-p ~0.
what happened exactly to the 3m ethnic germans after WWII? :-p who were born(!) in Bohemia which became part of the later on czechslovakia..
germans occupied the czech part, and formed bohemia/=czech/-moravian protectorate.. only 1 of the 4 nazi leaders was assassinated. heydrich. 2 czech heroes killed him (and a "slovak" (ethnic hungarian)). the others? ..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 6 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul though true you were not even in the situation to fight, but you did not even make a situation in which you could fight. not a sin, just dont pretend as if you have won WWs yourselves..
btw no offense, but 1968 is the same. despite i respect the efforts of the czech nation (and leaders that time) to achieve more freedom under SU, but those 5 months were nothing like the german, polish and hungarian days(!). those were real fights you know! and polish, hungarian for freedom!
kockasfuzetlapunyul 6 months ago
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WolfhoundMercenary 6 months ago
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@kockasfuzetlapunyul So? What is your point? You are the pathethic guy here trying to take a jab at us and put words into our mouths(winning WW2 by ourselves, haha what a bullshit!)
120 border guards have fallen in the fight againts the Freikorps terrorists.
And we had plenty of fighters and brigades in foreign countries. Ever heard about Battle of Sokolovo, Battle of Britain, Kharkov, Tobruk, Carphatian Pocket offense etc.?
Don't call us cowards if you know SH!T about us, dumb magyar troll.
WolfhoundMercenary 6 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary french(!) were fucking with germans through you, czechs after WWI.. what you have done with sudeten-germans caused what you have got from 3rd reich. 3rd reich aaaand the slovaks (who stole the languege from you, but all the land of slovakia was from Hungarian Kingdom. your benes said about slovaks that there is no such nation..).
even the slovak fascist tiso government fucked you in your ass so don't pretend you as a country achieved great victories. U DID NOT, U CANNOT.
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul btw it's nothing personal. but you know mostly the french and english were those who created f.e. czechslovakias artificial state against germans and hungarians. you czechs kept up mockering germans till 1938-1939. (and continued that after the end of WWII.) when the previously mentioned "democratic" countries weakened because their colonial population fed up with their 'status quo", you - instead of treating at least a bit better germans, just kept on beating them..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul a bit similar happened to poland. though as a hungarian i can truly understand our polish brothers intention in the midwar era to get revenge on those who caused the partition of Poland. but it was not a surprise that Germany attacked Poland. this time it was at least a bit rightful. the northern parts of the reconstructed Poland (from 1918) was the previously former Prussia. and they kept on mocking germans on such territories, which were not really part of Poland even
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul before dividing Poland among austria, prussia and russia. unlike czechs, poles have really fought against SU, Germany - at the same time. and its not so mentioned but the tiso led slovak fascist state (which helped to take over part of their "partner"state) helped the german intervention against Poland.
back to the original theme: i don't mind if you, czechs "tell the world" the truth. but tell the full truth.
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul and don't come up with false stories that you were seriously involved in WWs.. cause you weren't. not with an official regular army. you were not in that condition. seriously! neither it is bad, nor a sin. just happened that way.
and you were not innocent victims of Germany.
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul So you accuse me of "not telling the truth", then you go spreading such lies like the Czechoslovaks did not contributed to war at all? Pathethic hypocrite.
How about the 1st. CS Independent battalion? 1st. CS Armoured Brigade? 11th CS Infantry Battalion? The Czechoslovak "I Corps"? All of them had a combat history, look it up and stop hiding from facts.
What did YOU contribute to WW2 anyway? Nothing, you were Kraut's bitches and hound dogs who were not even good anyway.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary "spreading such lies like the Czechoslovaks did not contributed to war at all" ROFL. czechslovakia not even existed as czechslovakia at times of world wars you moron.. it was only founded after WWI (f.e. from the territories torn apart from HK, named after that "slovakia" + the czech state was also part of AH dualist(!) empire - so who was licking german ass? czechs..). and de facto not existed during WWII. germans occupied the western czech parts
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul of the artificial state made by french and english cause how the czechs treated the 3 million ethnic germans in czs. the "slovak" (you know the nation which not existed according to benes) "part" (decreased by territories partially regained by HK through Munich Conference) became independent, led by chauvinists like their leader tiso was. they've helped Germany to a, take over their new protectorate of bohemia and moravia b, attacked Poland alongside with SU and 3rd reich
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul c, deported jews and asked for "bone-money" (so slovak fascists not intended to lend jewish workers for nazis, only wanted their checkbook to be filled once..) d, attacked the SU
HK was not even involved in the WWII from start (whereas slovakia helped german forces against czechs, poles, and russians) we've joined the war and attacked SU AFTER SU bombed city of Kassa (one of the hungarian majority cities which became part of HK again by Munich Conference, Vienna awards).
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul every country had "members", official, and irregular "troops", who fought in world wars. but czechslovakia de facto not existed in WWII (before WWI there wasn"t a country name d czechslovakia). it was occupied pre-war by germans, partly with slovak fascist help (who paid for what benes said..). it became bohemia and moravia protectorate, and first slovak republic. (they can be proud of what have they done.. :-p)
numerous czech/bohemian battles and slovak history. ROFL!
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul
How long did it take you to come up with that profound response? 30 seconds? Your comment is just as pathetic and sad as your country's performance in WW2. Jackasses like you always fall back on that tired reply when they can't argue with the facts such as the czech contribution to the Allied war effort.
Only thing you can sling back is insulting Slovaks(whom I don't care about). Pathethic troll.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary why? you came up with your answer(?) in 17 hours? time does not matter at all. what if i've wrote those in 30 seconds? it's still true. are you arguing with me? not at all. maybe you cannot..
czech contribution? ROFL! (czech contribution: Bitte nein. later on: Het tovarisi.)
so you don't think what slovaks have done to jews, czechs, poles, hungarians (before and after war against hungarians, germans - like you've done to germans) is shameful. you are an ignorant idiot.
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul Haha, you are just getting mad that you uneducated magyar huns were Kraut's whores in WW2. You can bitch and moan about our exile paramilitary units all day, still doesn't change the fact we were more meaningful to the war effor than you. Tobruk, Sokolovo, Carpathian pocket, Dunkirq (1944), Kharkov, Dukla, Battle of Britain... LOL and what about you? Perhaps in Budapest when you were chasing chickens over your shitty farm.
bazd meg a picsadat! Dirty Magyar horse lord. :D
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary well probably it would make you happy if your stupidity would have made me or anyone else (except you) mad. not even close. ;-)
hungarians fought against germans. czechs licked their brogues constantly. through centuries. before WWII you mocked german civilians (you know the 3 million sudeten-germans) and you were sooo surprised that Germany oh not attacked, just marched in and took over your country without a fight. and no one cared. not even you.
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul And how many battles have you won? Lie some more, horse lord.
Let's see how you handle the fight when you have three major countries backstabbing you in a Munich pact.
We had one of the best armament industry in Europe, and defense line of bunkers possibly better than Maginot's. We could make the Krauts break their teeth on us and then steamroll you huns back into stone age if we wanted(which considering your army status back then wouldn't be too hard).
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary many, and many times we have lost. through which we've respeted our enemies, and they've respected us. germans, habsburgs, russians, ottomans. even after defeats our enemies stated how hard, but great fights were those.
how many battles you have had emoravian? cause except for the "glorious" start (when you were not able to kill a single man) of 1618-1648 (all european countries involved against catholic habsburgs) and austerlitz (habsburg-Napoleon battle) NOTHING happened..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul stupid hungar.
maybe we werent the biggest victors in either war, but at least we werent so openly collaborating with nazi pigs like you and ur country. not exactly something to be proud of
Ascalanthe 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul How about you stay on the topic instead of bitching about Moravians? All I said is that the czech population existed in the dark ages too to counter-argument your lunatic claims of czechs being non-existent.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary i've stayed on topic. (not as it was compulsory you dumb whoreson.) and why was it necessary to tell that the czech population existed in the dark ages too? no-one denied it. no-one mentioned it. you are falling apart. concentrate!
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul It is possible I have missread. But you didn't stayed on topic in fact.
How many paragraphs have you written about our apparent history instead of answering me about your WW2 effort? O_o
Jesus christ, it's like I'm really arguing with a pretentious college student who just took Philosophy 1.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary czechs participating in WWII. i've written that czechs because of german occupation were officially not involved in WWII battles. you denied this statement. the rest is history.
we hungarians openly not with full-heart (we gained back the territories of hungarian majority) joined axis forces after SU (mis)bombed Kassa. that was the casus belli, unlike USA's casus belli it was not before-known cause. we were not traitorous or shady like those who helped germans from the start
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul What do you mean? I only denied the statement of czechs not contributing to the Allies at all.
Sure we were occupied, but I am talking abotu the exile government and military in both Britain and the Soviet Union.
Hell even czechs such as Josef Buršík or Otakar Janoš were awarded the "Hero of the Soviet Union" with the Janoš's face being used on 1969 post stamps
And nor were we. I think the people you are looking at should be Romanians or even the French and British.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary ever heard of dutch or danish who fought against germans? .. czech part of artificial state of czechslovakia was occupied by germans. the slovak fascists attacked Poland helping germans (and SU), and helped the german take-over in bohemia-moravian protectorate. end of line.
and if you had not been not so into mocking, killing of the 3 million sudeten-germans one could say you were innocent victims..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul I never said I agree with everything Beneš has said in his decrees.
However, the only thing I agree with is moving out the faschist sudeten sympathizers back to Reich where they (ironically) belong.
You should also know that antifascists, persons crucial for industries and those married to ethnic Czechs were not deported at all.
I had a family relative who was apparently murdered by the Freikorps terrorist units in 38, so I don't really find anything justifiable about them
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
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@WolfhoundMercenary "Hell even czechs such as Josef Buršík or Otakar Janoš were awarded the "Hero of the Soviet Union" with the Janoš's face being used on 1969 post stamps"
you can be proud. in 1969 there were on the czechslovak stamps "two heads" who served the SU, baceuse it was against 3rd Reich after a time. the SU, which oppressed their pathetic little slavic brothers for 40 years. the SU which in 1968 oppressed the czech dreams..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul like slovaks, romanians.
btw HK was way older than the XIXth century "united", founded germany or italy, older than russia, older than (that time partitioned) poland, and bohemia (with only decades, but older). and during these so many years we've fought with many enemies. our ancestors never bowed to romans, but defeated them.
i don't care if you say that you are proud czech. you can be. but stop the bullshit about your important role in WWII as combattants..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul Point taken.
However, I never said we could single handely win the war. I am just getting tired of people like you who just have to make it sound like we didn't do squat in the war. We did, even though not on the scale of the Soviet Union, but we still did.
That is all.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary just to inform you the czechslovakia was one state.. and slovaks attacked with germany AAANNND with SU Poland. so what are you talking? as czechs you could not do anything with germans standing on your neck. the other part of the sop called czechslovakia willingly heéped germans, despite the fact they had issues with them, because germany was one country, which through Vienna award gave back most of the hungarian majority territories to HK. you were shady. that is all.
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul You mean: every country is shady. Lumping every one of us in the nazi seems kinda ignorant.
I am not denying there was scum nor we were saint, but there were also numerous resistance groups such as the Three Kings(Mašín, Balabán, Morávek), Out Distance, or the people cooperating with the SAS paratroopers.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary "Lumping every one of us in the nazi seems kinda ignorant." freud.. see the benes decrees for more information.. that benes who stated about slovaks that there was no such nation (when he signed the peace treaty washington DC 1922 with USA) made such laws as in-exile-government president and after WWII (the so called benes decrees) which stated f.e. that all germans and all hungarians are collectively guilty. AND THOSE DECREES ARE IN USE EVEN NOWADAYS AGAINST ALL!
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul Again, you are completely missing the point.
I said not everyone here was a nazi sympathizer and you reply with something about post-war Beneš decrees?
That's pure gold, I've never seen someone suck so much at reading comprehension.
But as I've stated before, I never really agreed with everything Beneš has said, so you can stop putting words in my FUCKING mouth buddy.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary every country had non-official troops. again: non official.
and about czechslovakia participating in world wars. in WWI it not existed. it was made up by england, and france to finish off germany and hungary. you czechs mocked the 3m sudeten-germans constantly (that was the cause of german occupation!), the slovaks mocked hungarians on their birthplace which was never slovakia, and not even czechslovakia. the whole territory was torn apart from Hungarian Kingdom!
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul with only 46% of slavic people living there, the majority in the western parts cities were german, hungarian, the eastern cities hungarian. (over 80%!). most of the ethnic hungarians lived and are living (depite such laws like benes decrees, or the "lightened" slovakian everyday life: see malina hedvig case and so on) near the 1920, 1945 forcefully formed unjust borders made by not even czechs, slovaks by battle.. but by french. and they've also made it mostly by "table"..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul Hungarian Kingdom got back only small parts of her torn apart territories. and not all of those with hungarian majority! did you know that f.e. Pozsony (now named bratislava - which had a normal tót-slovak name: Presporek, and czechslovaks wanted to name it at a time (after WWI) "Wilsonovo" after president of the USA Wilson till they've been told that Wilson wanted to grant territories for ethnical majority, and powerful rights to minorities..) was 83% german and hungarian?
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul Pozsony was an important city (later on one of the free-royal cities with several rights) from 907 when after a serious battle with germans(!) of the hungarian principality, and from 1000.01.01. 00:00 it was part of the Hungarian Kingdom till 1920.06.04. 16:35 when the peace dictate of trianon had to be signed..
bratislava.. shame of europe.
but to continue. the role czechslovakia played (or not played) in WWII. czech parts were occupied by germans. already told why..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul but the slovaks. they were okay with their freedom. they were free from czech supremacy (as they've felt the 1920-1938 era - even hlinka a slovak chauvinist told once, that slovaks were way happier in Hungarian Kingdom with hungarians).
the tiso led fascist slovakia was not a puppet state, and was way more than a collaborant. THEY'VE ATTACKED POLAND WITH GERMANY AND SU! so slovakia HAD enough military force to that.. still there was no sign of objection.
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul if you whine now that there was the so called "slovak national uprising". that's the same category like f.e. the romanian. lies, lies, lies. when the germans lost the eastern war slovak fascist realized the following: czechs: OK; hungarians: not OK (because HK gained back partly its torn apart territories - with the help of germans, italians; english, french agreed), germans: NOT OK, other slavics coming, the SU: NOT OK. so when the germans were busy with occupieing HK,
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul because governor Horthy was fed up with the german requests (those what were fullfilled willingly previously by slovaks, romanians when the WW started(!). f.e. slovaks not just literally selled the jews for nazi germany. that was the fascist slovak bone-money. the jewish - no-return fund slovakian style..), and nazis had been full-handed with soviets. czechslovaks pretended as there had been a serious uprising in the more than collaborant slovakia. no one cared that time!
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul and when the soviets arrived and only passed through the czech parts, the czechs who were really happy that the panslavic dreams came true again. that time in reality. (and for almost 40 years after war cause you "friends" remained in the whole region - remeber your 1968*). but as the soviets rushed towards berlin no russian soldier remained in czech protectorate. 1945. may 7.: the brave czechs made a peace with the just SU-beaten germans.. interesting right?
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul *it may seem as an offfense, though it is not, cause i am truly respecting the will for freedom, but its a fact that in 1968, when the SU oppressed the czech economical will of freedom; the fights were just like the "slovak national uprising" in 1944, mentioned before.. in Berlin, in Poland, in Hungary those were uprisings and freedom fights (more than a decade before as of 1968..)
the numbers:
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul 1953-Berlin: 1(!) day: 500 dead | 1956-Poznan: 2 days: 86 dead | 1956-Hungary: 12 days (most of them were peaceful days!): 2500 hungarian civilians and 720 soviet soldiers (those with armored vehicles, tanks) | 1968-Czech(slovakia): 5 months: 108 dead.. - may R.I.P. all heroes who fought, but among those 108, there is f.e. (and here is the quote from a czech site for english-knowing visitors): "Felled by a Soviet tank while riding a motorcycle" - died. in accident! hmmm..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul What has this to do with what I've written?
We've never mocked anyone you fool, that's a propaganda made by you nazi apologist whiners to justify murder of thousands of czech people by the Freikorps terorrist units you forget so much.
You have a problem with us? So what? Cry some more please
Also, did you really wrote like 13 different replies in less than an hour? Pathethic. If I knew you were such a dumb keyboard thug with no real life I would not waste my time with you.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary you are an idiot. i've written every aspects of the story. if you don't understand a word from it, that's not my fault. my point was from the very beginning, that pretending that the czechs and czechslovakia were really fighting in world war was nonsense. i won't repeat myself again.
i could have told you all this in just one comment. but hey! you did not understand it from even 13 (yt limited) comments.. LOL!
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
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WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul All I've seen so far is you bitching and going off the topic with stuff such as the commie occupation in 1968 and such. That's no way in hell related to the czechoslovak soldiers in WW2.
Since you obviously fail at understanding basic logic= rephrasing:
Czechs contributed to the Allied effort. There were foreign army divisions and government.
What part of this you don't understand? You keep ranting about CZ not existing, but must have missed the "foreign" part of the name!
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary read through the comments, everything has been written. if you don't see connections, or points, that must be your problem. i won't answer you again with these.
btw my point was the whole time, that don't pretend you had been combattants in WWII. that's a disgrace to all other countries who suffered seriously and lost hundredthousands (a few even over million(s)) of manpower. did fe. hollandia fight in WWII? see? and czechs were not even innocent victims..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 3 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul I've shown you numerous battles, skirmishes and foreign divisions with us Czechs involved and you still proceed to call them non-combatants? What were those guys then? Civilians?
Or maybe it's the fact that such a small country actually managed to fight for the Allies while you Hungar swines were Nazi's bitches the entire time?
It's not my fault you are being denial over it. History has been made, and dumb yokels such as yourself will NOT rewrite it. Get lost, Hungar
WolfhoundMercenary 3 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul the skoda factory (which was the habsburg-german ruled "bohemanian" factory) continued its work. made weapons for germans. the so called czech contribution, right, right, right - little malchik.. :-D
kingdom of moravia? LOL! only christian kingdom could survive in this territory. thats why you founded your kingdom about the same time like we hungarians and poles. before that we also had principalities, and pagan kingdoms, like you, BUT we were independent!
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul you were the mostly slavic underlings of germans, previously franks, "romans". f.e. in 907 we fought against your german masters at Pozsony, not some self-throwned pagan czech king.. you licked the feet of germans for over a thousand years.. not a single fight alone against them..
back to WWII, and one of your fresh comment, you have written 18 hours by now. "but we had numerous exile troops and official battalions". i "answered" this 3 days ago, you blind emoravian..
kockasfuzetlapunyul 4 months ago
@kockasfuzetlapunyul ŠKODA factory was created by Emil Škoda who was czech Same as ČKD, but I don't think an undeducated pony lord such as yourself would know the difference. xD
Still nice to see you are not capable of arguing facts. How many battles have you won again? IN how many crucial skirmishes were you involved? Your shitty military even had to use our Avia fighter planes LOL
Good thing Krauts occupied your ass after you wanted to negotiate the peace treaty with the US and UK.
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago
@WolfhoundMercenary Not to mention your pathethic 2nd army got crushed in the Battle of Stalingrad where a bunch of half-armed rabble sliced through you like a butter in the Battle of Voronezh and pretty much the whole Hungarian army ceased to exist as an effective fighting force afterwards. LOL
WolfhoundMercenary 4 months ago