Further note: when this happened - I wasn't seeking a moment or a feeling - I was unexpectedly drawn - my heart felt its poverty and through tears came incredible Peace and Presence. Yes, from this I do believe that St. Philip Neri and St. Francis Assisi are my 2 Patron Saints, and maybe St. Christopher and St. Jude as well. I need all the help I can get. LOL. :-) Thanks again!
This is wonderful-! I experienced this at least twice - at Chiesa Nuovo Church in Rome when I entered it - and also at the Basilica of St. Francis in Assisi. Moved to tears, unexpectedly, with much grief but also felt a presence like none other. It felt sacred - again, thanks for this moving clip - there is truth here.
It is a wonderus thing when this happens. Although I would caution against making any 'attempt' at staying there, but rather continue in what you were doing at the time that it began.
Submitting the will to God letting His grace stay with you rather than making an act of your own will to acquire grace. This does not prohibit asking for graces.
Although a topic better reserved for private discussion, I can say a little. In recalling Cain and Abel. The virtue of one brother was allowing the Father to gaze down rather than the converse attempt to reach up which was the sin of the other. Indeed, the Genesis story provides us with much of what we need to be followers of Christ.
life's not all "joyful" and klimakos embraces both extremes by saying, "if you feel a special joy" or a "moved in the heart by something" - which "something" can also be painful or melancholic. thank you for your interest.
Your comments make no sense. How is it related to the video? There's nothing wrong with "people believing in Jesus" or any other faith for that matter. People aren't "cold" to the "ONE and ONLY faith" they just recognise, I reckon, that God is quite limitless - and that there are other paths to Truth, Love, Holiness, Gentleness, Humility, Joy, Kindness and the like... Who are we to prescribe. What's good and God for you may not necessarily be the same for me. But we are in this together :)
Further note: when this happened - I wasn't seeking a moment or a feeling - I was unexpectedly drawn - my heart felt its poverty and through tears came incredible Peace and Presence. Yes, from this I do believe that St. Philip Neri and St. Francis Assisi are my 2 Patron Saints, and maybe St. Christopher and St. Jude as well. I need all the help I can get. LOL. :-) Thanks again!
mark200457 2 years ago
This is wonderful-! I experienced this at least twice - at Chiesa Nuovo Church in Rome when I entered it - and also at the Basilica of St. Francis in Assisi. Moved to tears, unexpectedly, with much grief but also felt a presence like none other. It felt sacred - again, thanks for this moving clip - there is truth here.
mark200457 2 years ago
It is a wonderus thing when this happens. Although I would caution against making any 'attempt' at staying there, but rather continue in what you were doing at the time that it began.
ammazzamoro 2 years ago
I'm intrigued :) why not stay there for a while as Klimakos recommends?
RusBlassoples 2 years ago
Submitting the will to God letting His grace stay with you rather than making an act of your own will to acquire grace. This does not prohibit asking for graces.
Although a topic better reserved for private discussion, I can say a little. In recalling Cain and Abel. The virtue of one brother was allowing the Father to gaze down rather than the converse attempt to reach up which was the sin of the other. Indeed, the Genesis story provides us with much of what we need to be followers of Christ.
ammazzamoro 2 years ago
i wouldn't have picked the Schindler's List music...for it's not exactly joyful...more melancholic
shadowfaxw 2 years ago
life's not all "joyful" and klimakos embraces both extremes by saying, "if you feel a special joy" or a "moved in the heart by something" - which "something" can also be painful or melancholic. thank you for your interest.
RusBlassoples 2 years ago
Your comments make no sense. How is it related to the video? There's nothing wrong with "people believing in Jesus" or any other faith for that matter. People aren't "cold" to the "ONE and ONLY faith" they just recognise, I reckon, that God is quite limitless - and that there are other paths to Truth, Love, Holiness, Gentleness, Humility, Joy, Kindness and the like... Who are we to prescribe. What's good and God for you may not necessarily be the same for me. But we are in this together :)
RusBlassoples 3 years ago
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aspiefree 3 years ago