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  • but doesn't the pump-action shotgun have a large CIRCLE for a crosshair?? i only played the ps3 version, maybe the pc has regular crosshairs...

  • @ShamanTheHedgehog Some attatchment makes the crosshairs small and the shotgun shot more accurate but less powerful.

  • @MrMrHancock oh, i just unlocked a shotgun with regular crosshairs, nvm. but that's cool too.

  • @ShamanTheHedgehog Do you play bf3?

  • @MrMrHancock sowwy... only got bc2...

  • i do this all the time :/

  • So you're that asshole who takes the helicopter and crashes it for quick personal transportation instead of using it effectively.

  • @Vintersd win

  • @jamisonvanp So your text yelling? Is it because you can't play hardcore? People like you make me laugh, childish, ignorant and just plain annoying. Capitalizing a poorly written sentence just makes you look foolish.

    What I said has nothing to do with one shot or two, regular mode or hardcore. Simply that the slug has no drop. Pay attention boy... I say pay attention.

  • You can do the same thing with the pistol as well and yet I never hear anybody complain about that (no bullet drop). Pull out your sniper rifle, aim then pull out your pistol without moving and BAM 400 yard head shot.

  • @PRGLoki And another, pisotols drop the same as slugs bolt action snipers, LMGs ect. They are all the same.

    Want some proof? Search for clip: q6i9tpKiWKM

    Cant argue with that.

    More proof? How about the dev in charge of weapon balance @ dice!

    twitter.com/#!/Demize99/status­es/14145085593

  • @duff5ooo That is almost my point. People keep bringing up the shotgun and the slug but no one seems to care that the pistol has the same drop as the sniper rifle. Not to mention if you use your sniper rifle as a setup guide for your pistol you can get a 400 yard head shot with the pistol.

    It baffles me that so many bitch, argue about the shotgun verse the sniper rifle and ignore the fact that the pistol is the most over powerful, over distance, weapon.

  • @PRGLoki You made another comment that came to my email but it looks like you have deleted it. You asked what system i play on. I am using PC but it makes no difference.

    Did you look at the clip i posted in 1080p? If you doubt it just join a map of Arica and try exactly what they do in the clip. Aim at somethign ages away, fire, switch to your binocs, watch the drop.

    Of course pistol has the same drop as the snipers, as i have said, as the devs have said, they all drop the same.

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  • Here is the link, should go straight to the 870 in HD:

    youtu.be/q6i9tpKiWKM?hd=1&t=25­­s

    edit: you still have to click the enlarge button to watch it bigger for some reason.

  • I run with the 870 when the map is full of snipers. Only thing better then shooting them across the map with a slug is taking there dog takes. The shotgun with slugs is NOT realistic at all, the slug has NO drop what so ever, If you can put the crosshair on them know matter how far away they are, they will go down. The most it should be good for is about 100 yards.

  • @PRGLoki As with the other guy, totally false. Slugs have the same drop as other rounds in this game. You just dont notice it as easily without a scope.

    You can see it ingame if you actually look.

    The devs have said it

    There are clips on here that prove it. ALL the guns have the same drop, including pistols, slugs ect.

  • @duff5ooo @duff5ooo I can tell you never use the 870 shotgun with slug. Had you, you wouldn't be disputing the drop.

    The bad thing about using the shotgun for a sniper rifle is that you don't get the distance bonus points for head shots.

    The good thing is you have no sway with the crosshair like you do with the scope.

  • @PRGLoki WOW!

    Obviously you didn't bother to look at the clip showing the drop on slugs.

    I linked you to a clip where you can see slugs drop exactly the same. I also linked you to a twitter from the dice head of weapon balance.... Are you blind?

    I have used slugs heaps. Actually most my "marksmanship headshots" are with the 870 +slugs.

    What you are failing to notice is without a scope the triangle marker on an enemy is actually allot high above their head than with a scope.

  • @duff5ooo I did look at the clip, not the best quality didn't prove anything. I don't shoot at a triangle above the head. There is no triangle in hardcore. Cross hair directly on head, head shot, no matter how far equals no drop.

    I say we agree to disagree. I can give you a bunch of clips that will show no drop and I'm sure you can do the same.

  • @PRGLoki Seriously you must be blind. The clip can be played in 1080p. How is that not clear? You can see every round fired in the test drop and land on the exact same point. Bolt actions, Slugs, LMGs.

    Watch the clip in 1080p and it is obvious. Not that you should even need to when dice have said time after time that the drop is the same.

    You sure you were looking at the right clip? q6i9tpKiWKM otherwise search for "Bullet drop comparison". It is conclusive proof in hi def.

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  • I really hope this stays the exact same in Battlefield 3

    Shotguns aren't OP. At long range they need two shots to kill someone unless you get a headshot, same as snipers.

    At close range you can one hit kill someone yes, but with a slug thats Kinda hard to do since the flinch in this game is massive when you get shot. Also, Have you seen a lot of people using shotguns?

    Nope.

    Its a great way to humiliate snipers though. And I'm pretty sure we ALL love pissing on a snipers day.

  • still dre <3

  • If there was bullet drop this would be realistic because this is what slugs do in real life. The only thing is there is no bullet drop.

  • @ShadowRSonic Slug do have drop. People are just blind...

  • noob like you kill the game

  • what an assohole u wasted a valuable resource, aka helicopter... selfish fag...

  • and then u say me cod is face...jajajajajajajaja

  • love the game but always hated that about the game......even tho i like doing it myself

  • That's why I always use shotgun :D So funnyyyyy :DD

  • music was garbage

  • @pkman947 hating on Dre, awwww

  • @pkman947 why you gotta hate on dre and snoop

  • @Jermiahisntmaname why not

  • @helosb they were some of the first west coast big time rappers/producers

  • @Jermiahisntmaname but they rap... so...

  • @Jermiahisntmaname but they rap... so... 

  • @helosb and your point? im not hatin on what you listen to, i could be but im not

  • @Jermiahisntmaname well i am so... you can too

  • @pkman947 garbage? dre all day man.

  • I use Saiga automate shotgun with bullet mod spec + extra magazine, I can kill an enemy in sniper range easily :)

  • You Really Used The Chopper For That !?

  • @TheHaloFan300 Go and fuck your self dick head...

    You just can't snipe with shotgun.. and with most fully automatic weapons..

    if you shot any real weapon then you would know that this is just impossible to do...

  • WHY DID YOU POST THIS! This needs to be a secret!

  • Hate this part of BC23.. the game is quite good but this cheats.. (slugs) ruin its all..

    in fact you can't hit with shotgun for more then 2 meter with out spreading it all....

  • check out /watch?v=nNTyCcip-ks, 230 yds slug shooting

  • Probable the most enjoyable game to play for me is BB2, but COME ON!! Seriously I hate shotguns in the battlefield, anybody that can sit there and say that it's real has no clue, I own guns, i do long range shooting as well as shotguns for birds. I can tell you that a shotgun shooting at those long distances even using SG's will not kill you, EVER!!! where's the bullet drop? and with drop comes loss off velocity which in turns means less power. NO WAY!!!

  • whats the song's name?

  • @rizoj99 still D.R.E.

    

  • To all you Call of Duty faggots who think this is overpowered, i hope you realize that in real life shotguns reach over 100 yards.

    Call of duty is horrible to consider being accurate with weapons.

  • whats the point of using any other gun if you can have a shotty/sniper combination?

  • 0_o no FUCKING way!!! i honestly need to send this to all the people who say MW2 has overpowered shottys...WTF!!!!!

  • only sandnigger sniper with SHOTGUNS god kill all fags who cant play a game when it is supposed to simulate warfare and faggots like u ruining it thinking its Counterstrike.

  • awesome game, awesome video=)

    watch this:

    /watch?v=KNm0iGc-oH4

    its another awesome short bc2 video =)

  • @DevilishKnights Just thumb down the fucking comment, I have no memory of writing the comment. I don't hate anything of what i wrote in the comment either.

  • Your playing on a hard core map, stupid. Shoot someone in the foot with a m24 and they die....

    Try to do the same thing on a regular map and you will find it quite a bit harder.

  • this still works?!

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  • @PlastKladd your probably one of the guys that quits every game or have a bad score every game....

    Get used to it dude.

  • I prefer using a real sniper

  • Still ppl don't use it cuz they use snipers(4 long range)

  • i suppose if you used a 12 gauge and was super accurate it would be a realistic shot

  • what the hell? how you use a parachute i just fall right out of the sky and die

  • @protoamous Space Bar...

    HTH

    HAND

    kthxbai

  • @zarathustra2k1 on 360

  • @protoamous Yuck. don't be cheap, dude. Buy a proper gaming machine. :P

  • @protoamous you can keep pressing A on xbox i dont know wht it is on ps3 or pc probbly the jump buttons m8

  • @sexyn8tive420 You fail.

    And I don't even understand what your trying to tell me.

  • thing is, is that shotguns can be used about medium range depending on what ammunition you are using

  • this game is supposed to be happening in the future.. and the accuracy of the bullet depends on the projectile.. so IT IS.

  • @Chibirubiks umm this game is not based on the future, your thinking of 2142 which has mech walkers.  This game is based in modern day time.

  • fucking hate the song

  • LOL fuck walking

  • the bullets should be dropping significantly, even moreso than sniper shots. just keep that in mind before you call it "realistic". yes, it's a slug. no, it's not realistic.

  • @Blinky2099 The range isn't realistic, but neither is getting an ammo pack or having a med kit that has a range of healing ability. Modern Warfare 2 isn't real. They're all games. Although I will say that the one thing that makes battlefield only a LITTLE more realistic is the concept that shotgun rounds don't just disappear after 30 feet. Although my main point, it's a video game.

  • @Blinky2099 they made it drop in may. its patched

  • @Blinky2099 More realistic then fucking COD weapons......besides,you do have to aim above the enemy even with shotgun slugs if they are far away

  • @Blinky2099 at least they are more realistic than cod were the bullets magically disappear.

  • @Blinky2099 i gotta say man i love bfbc2 1000 times over cod but this is the only thing thats wrong with it is that u can kill someone clear across the map with a shotgun if they patched the distance alot then it would be pretty much perfect

  • @Blinky2099 do you have any idea of the range youve got to be shooting at to need to compensate for bullet drop? you make it sound like "sniper shots" have more drop then most bullets, while really they are made to be fired at long ranges, and arent intended to need adjustments unless your shooting at 500+

  • @sxnoss40 i agree due to the rifling of the barrel and the the rounds that are usually specially made for it the sniper system is MADE to shoot at ranges like that. a shotgun is made to blow down doors, splatter someone thats in ur face, and all around CLOSE RANGE devastation. you should not be able to "snipe" with a shotgun wether its a game or not......

  • @BliXxMorGrahZz If he were using buck or something of the sort id totally agree but hes shooting slugs, and even though i'm sure this is a bit radical and no body would make that far of a shot, they do shoot pretty far.

  • @Blinky2099 compare it to cod

  • I think he has quickscoped in MW2 and now he does Shotgun Sniping

  • I see Modern Warfare 2 has taught kids that shotgun shells disappear after 8 feet.

  • dumb noob

  • its so fucking ironic how he sniped snipers :P

  • its ok but shotguns shouldnt have crosshairs on hardcore mode imo

  • @ytfuck3r12 yeah they do actually because you can't use the iron sights

  • no in mw2 u can use the spas

  • funny to watch em fall xD

  • and that is why shotguns are for noobs that cant use real guns......

  • @deacs777 you dont start off with slugs(which he is using),but you start with normal shells

  • @deacs777 Even though he's taking aim and carefully shooting like he would with a sniper rifle, instead of spraying with a "real gun"?

  • Thing is, this is REALISTIC.

  • @ryanroflcopter i have to call bullshit on this dude. a shotgun is and always has been classified as a close quarters weapon due to the fact there is little to NO rifling in the barrel! the bullet will drop so fast in REALISTIC TERMS. you should learn ur guns b4 you call that shit realistic.....

  • @BliXxMorGrahZz I've shot around 100 meters with a slug before, hitting targets. Some slugs even have rifling on the fucking slug. There are such shotguns that do have rifling. They aren't well known, because they are usually prohibited. I say , FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH A SHOTGUN, that the maximum effective range for this would be around 150 m. Not know exact distance for the game, and angle of the shot, we can't tell if its 100 % achievable in real life. Don't tell me to learn my guns

  • I really hate the sniper shotgun users psses me off so much. Mw2 lick my hole

  • thats why i like mw2 better

  • Fuh-huh-huck thaaaaaaaaat

  • id really hat eit if you was on the other team from me thats just gay as fuck i know thay can do that but ive never seen tell now on how far thay can go thats bullshit but cool. great shot though give ya to thumbs up on it

  • @TheManiacMythic yeah, that's probably THE most frustrating part of the game, being sniped by a shotgun from across the map....

  • This song is shit. There is just something off about it.

  • you compare them to modern warfares shotguns, however dont forget these are primary wepons in battlefield, in modern warfare you can run them, akimbo in some instances, partnered with another OP gun

  • @stevetheblobman ..... you can't be serious. the shotguns in bc2 are far worse than mw2's =/

  • @Sonnyxleet i dont find them to be, as i said, in mw2, not only can run some akimbo but with perks like bling pro you can increase their magazine size too, also bad company 2 forces you to take it as a primary, if it didnt have the range it did then you'd be unstuck in many situations, and they would be near useless your camping to defend a point in rush

  • @stevetheblobman well, it's as simple as this... in mw2 you have a chance, in bad company 2 you can snipe from WAY across the level, and unless you have a sniper or you're very lucky, you don't have a chance. mw2's levels are small and at least give youa chance, but because of the broad levels in bad company 2, you have no chance.

  • @Sonnyxleet thats a damn lie...maybe you just suck at this game?, nothing wrong with admitting that you aren't good at something...

  • @HorrorHiro Nah, it's not a lie. Lol. Trust me, I've been playing BF games for years, the shotguns are horrible in BC2 as opposed to other BF games. You really don't believe you can snipe across the map with shotties? Go play Port Valdez, get on the mountain with a shotty and pick people off using slugs. As for me sucking, I don't understand the relevance? We're talking about sniping with shotties, unless you believe you can dodge sniper fire.

  • @Sonnyxleet I know the capabilities of guns in real life. Its you're opinion that the shotguns suck I'm VERY biast to all weapons in the BF series. YES you can dodge sniper rifle bullets in real life (just like how you can dodge ANY bullet in real life and you're not dodging the bullet out of mid-air or anything like that its just a mater of getting out of the shooters sights)

  • @HorrorHiro I wasn't referring to real life. LOL. I was talking about BF.

  • @Sonnyxleet Well my bad then, so many realistic whores on games like these (FPS generally) days...

  • @HorrorHiro no problem =)

  • @HorrorHiro But hey, check my stats on statsverse. stats/ps3/Prysice7 - I don't suck, but I'm not the best. I've even gotten a pretty decent amount of gold stars with the shotguns, mostly from sniping, because it's a piece of cake to do. Nice try, though.

  • @Sonnyxleet and I know from experience that its very possible to make a shotgun a sniper rifle but I guess you're correct because if you do it right by the time you finish its the farthest thing from a shotgun...

  • @HorrorHiro aa12 with finned grenade rounds...... :D

  • @height198cm true true...and that is a "mid to long range" round made only for the military issue AA12's

  • @Sonnyxleet and that's how it 'should' be, the shotgun being virtually useless across the map. That's why picking a good secondary would be key. IMO, this is about the biggest error they made in MP.  I'm pretty happy with the game as a whole, but sniping shotguns and over-done environmental effects would cause me to give it 4/5 instead of 4.5 out of 5 of 5/5. what's your username in the game?

  • Badass waiting for someone to finally run that song on a decent video fuk da haters

  • does aiming down sight with shotty reduce accuracy or something?

  • he did aim, there is no sight on shotguns in BC2, it just zooms in a little

  • @eeiko321 no, not really, you have a very little cross and I think the bullet won't fall by gravity.

  • was this video simply a means to you venting your rage? or are you just trying to start another video game flame war? its the same as using a sniper without a scope. And dont say shotties are overpowered, just look at the M60 or UMP in MW2 i still get hit markers every now and then. What i mean is most shooters damage you do depends on where you shoot sum 1 and the odds of missing sum 1 in this game with are pretty high. BTW this was in hardcore. i could 1 shot sum 1 with a 45. from twice as far

  • waste of  a good chopper

  • @mrbattlefieldbc2

    Thats like 5.5 mil down the drain.

    NICE JOB JACKASS!!! You should be court martial LOL!

  • Id have to say i do that ALLOT

  • th3madhatter106: agree. but this kids dont know what their talking about and are trying to relate this to reality...

  • and lastly anyone w/ any guns skills nows that shooting that far w/ a rifle can be tricky unless you know what you are doing. that is because there is a lot of movement in the body and just a little tweak can make a big different w/ that kind of range.

  • @chevyihs008 Wait if your a gun nerd as you said why are you playing a video game? Go comment on REAL gun video's not shotgun range is unrealistic because it's a game and realistic games are the best besides america's army which was farely boring.... Also on your channel video's doesn't look like your a gun nerd just a game nerd....

  • and yes the slug, maybe even a shot might go that far, but it wont hit the person most likly. and this is probably a buck shoot, otherwise a shot gun wouldnt really serve the purpose that you want in real war, which is a close range oh crap shot. and if the bbs really went that fare you would have a massive spread and they would of lost so much power that they might just stink the guy if they do hit him. and if hes got body armor, forget it...

  • nope, a shot gun is a shot gun and is unrifled, other wise it would be a rifle, a very large caliber rifle... and slugs come in the same type of shell as regular bird and buck shot comes in. so shooting slug is like shooting a revolutionary war musket. it might be more accurate cuz its more modern, but a ball doesnt travel very straight. that is why rifling and bullets where invented (even rifled muskets werent that great, but back in 1776 a 250 yard shot was a long shoot...)

  • they made realistic in real life thats how far it would go

  • I use the Saiga with slugs.

    Great when I out snipe enemy recon.

  • how u suvive fall

  • @azoful open your chute. on pc its /space/ on 360 i think its /X/

    i think it is whatever your jump button is.

  • @1f0und1 ps3?

  • @DigitalLuke um i only played the demo once on ps3, but it "should" be the same button as the JUMP button. try it

  • @DigitalLuke pc

  • @azoful tap the jump button twice and  fast

  • Its kinda easy to do that you just spot someone and aim little under the orange triangle and is down :D

  • Now thats what i call fucking homo noob bitch + camp with overpowered weapon.

    Get some skill and play like man.

  • so stupid, i dont use it. yea i use that spec, but i dont do that gay shit. did it for a few times first time i heard bout it

  • Shotguns are hardly a problem on this game? When have you ever gotten into a lobby and everyone is using a shitty? When have you ever gotten into a lobby and even 5 people are using the shotty. Most people dont even use the slugs,

  • Hey at least shotguns are the primary weapons. In MW2 they are secondary weapons to an already deadly primary. In Bad Company 2 if you run into a CQCer and they miss the first shot with the shotgun, chances are they'll be dead before they can get the next shot off. As for the sniping, ya its unrealistic, but its a primary weapon and you can get kills from that range with pretty much any other primary if you are good enough. Yes it is far fetched, but this doesnt bug me very much.

  • Epic shot, you killed chewbacca!

  • @PcBreacher lol WTF

  • cool xD

  • nothing like mw2

  • It's somewhat balanced for what the slugs are. One thing's poison's another one's meat. Buckshot's poison (mid-long range) is the slug's meat, whilst the slug's poison (close range) is the buckshot's meat.

  • i believe for the most part, this isn't a glitch. the slugs are similar damage to sniper bullets. the range shouldn't be that great though, that's the 1 part i have a problem with.

  • Their patching this btw.

  • In hardcore with the shotguns that isn`t semi automatic, always 100% damage.

  • this freakin happens to me all the time, hate those people

  • wow. just... wow.

  • xd hahaha

  • I'm sorry.. What was that game called again? Modern 'What's-That-Piece-Of-Shit' 2?

  • @01steiny Cock of Doody: Modern Gayfuckstupid 2.

  • @pspkoekje LOL'ED! Doesn't that sound like the phrase from Arby & the Chief? I mean, if you watch it.

  • @pspkoekje hey call of duty games aren't bad....... ifs its madde my treyarch i mean modern warfare was an ok game but modersqeufaffair 2 isn't that great.

    battlefield bad company 2 when i first got it i thought it was absolutely amazing and i still think its great but i do see some bad parts to the game like the range shown in the video but its still a good game. call of duty world at war one of the very best call of duty games and black ops looks fun but unsure.

  • @01steiny

    no,it's "stop being an asian twat 2"

  • In hardcore, everyone's health is reduced to 50 instead of 100. Shotguns do 100 damage standard at close range and drops to 50 at longer ranges. So using basic math, i'm pretty sure that in hardcore, shotguns are automatic wins in fights.

  • i do this all the time lol

  • 0:45 = Lol

  • well if you go and pick up a shotgun in real life im pretty sure battlefield is more relalistic sompared to mw2 with the shotgun range so no this isnt bad for the range this is realistic

  • as a gun nerd i would know how far a shot gun could fire and i know for a fact, even w/ slug shot, that it will not go as far as it does in this video... beside, shooting slug is like shooting a musket. rifling was invented in order to make guns more accurate.

  • @chevyihs008 They could definitely fire that far, they may not hit him from that range but it's what they're like

  • @chevyihs008 I thought slugs had to be fired from a rifled shotgun barrel. whereas normal shells are fired from unrifled barrels?

  • @chevyihs008 ........its a game. if it was THAT realistic it wouldnt be fun. do you really think someone can carry that much equipment and be effective in battle. just sayin