LSO Masterclass - Bass Trombone

[RuneWalkthroughs]

i play trombone and might switch to bass trombone

[RuneWalkthroughs]

i play trombone and might switch to bass trombon

[encoreman987]

Since there isnt a part for euphonium would we be able to try out with this part?

[janesalmon]

one of the best sarabandes!

[mzoli1222]

Is his accent Scottish or Welsh?

[timmyedmundson]

@mzoli1222 He's Scottish

[Digger843ASXM]

Tight up your lips a bit and you'll do fine :)'

Keep it up, from a Bass-Trombone pro :D

[Digger843ASXM]

Tight up your lips a bit and you'll do fine :)'

Kepp it up, from a Bass-Trombone pro :D

[landhunterr]

what kind of mouthpiece?

[homestar2112]

i'd love to hear crank some wagner or something...but then again, it's more impressive to play soft because anybody can play loud ^_^

[bloodvein3]

@homestar2112 well, i can play soft, but when i play too loud, it fucks up my tone, both on trombone and tuba (in which tuba is my main instrument)

[homestar2112]

@bloodvein3 it's just a matter of playing loud with a good sound. Not a piercing, bright sound, but a sound that just fills your ears with awesomeness :P

[DancingSpiderman]

His intervals are amazing.

[JAMFKru]

sick!

[mynameissang]

Is that an Irish accent?

[thomasswatland]

scottish

[limbdarkening]

The trombone interests me because there are no defined marks for the notes.  How does he know what he is doing?

[sewas1232]

@limbdarkening its all about memory there are certain positions for each note like a valve for a trumpet, trombone players memorize these slide positions

[DarkMountain908070]

@limbdarkening we (trombonists) aren't supposed to let other band players now that we only have 7 positions and that we rarely use more than 4. :)

[kicksazzallday]

@DarkMountain908070 like 5...we never fucking use 5...unless we get that ever rare f# that hardly fits anywhere xD

[DarkMountain908070]

@kicksazzallday That's why I said we RARELY use more than 4!

[Blitzhild]

@kicksazzallday rare f#? sounds like you need to play outside of your comfortable keys, Orchestral trombone has plenty of sharps XD

[Ayo1594]

How do you think violinists/string players feel? Haha

[Aeromedic]

As mentioned before its memory as well as tone. A good trombonist will be always listening to the initial attack on his note so he can alter as needed.

[shadow8208]

It's all muscle memory. You eventually get a feel for the positions, albeit it's a bit different between different trombone models.

[jedibassman100]

@shadow8208 hit the nail on the head

[drumstyx6464]

@limbdarkening Same as stringed instruments, or even singing, it's all about memory.

[FatHobbit88]

accually not really. there are 7 positions for the slide. i play it

[Akalack]

@FatHobbit88 i thaught there were like eight or nine, im not sure though lol its been a loooong while since ive played trombone

[FatHobbit88]

@Akalack I'm not sure. the regular tenor trombone has 7. the bass trombone might have more

[AttitudeCastle]

@FatHobbit88 no, your right, all trombones have 7, just the intervals (distance between positions) changes

[Eisie5]

trombone is a wondderful instrument i play trombone too its great....

[swedhockey0394]

what brand horn is this

[curiositygun93]

you are officially my hero trombone player i hope when i'm professional trombone player i can play as good as you

[boredomesucks232]

lol even though this is gonna sound rude, in america, we have mad cow disease, aparently in london they have mad crooked teeth disease xD

[xxetfownsxx]

Brass players get that a lot... You should see my old band teacher. LOL

[boredomesucks232]

LOL THATS F-ING HILARIOUS!!

[HSCMNGBCK]

Just been placed as the bass trombone player in the school's symphony orchestra. I've only played tenor bass so I was a little unsure of the decision but after watching this i'm quite excited about it all.

Thanks - Great Video.

[jaredleegilbert]

those jumps are crazy!!!! he does an excellent job with it.

[davisbone]

when it comes to orchestral bass trombonists I usually prefer British orchestras to orchestras from other countries(exept Israel)

[SpeedyNeutrino43]

I got the chance to honk around on a contra bass saxophone once. It's HUGE. I'm glad I primarily stick with the tenor and alto.

[Ninjatrombone]

Dennis is still awesome although he claims not to play the trombone anymore - he came to our college to do a masterclass, and a talk. He says he said he hasnt played the trombone in maybe about 20 years or something and picks up my housemates 'bone and nails a super-super Bb!!! (About 10 ledger lines up!!!) Incredible, Chris Mowat is a nice player, he was head of the brass department at my college. Damn, i need to practice more!!!!

[TheIgorZap]

I'm inspired. I failed to master the trombone as a teenager, is it too late to try again at 62?

[Ninjatrombone]

Most certainly not, although your facial muscles will not be as good as you may like. There will be no stamina there. This is why teachers of musical instruments ask their students to practice - so their muscles get built up in the right areas!!!!!

[TheIgorZap]

Thanks for the encouragement Ninjatrombone. I really enjoyed your rendition of Misty. For me, the greatest BT player was Frank Matheson in the LSO of the 60's. With Dennis Wick on 1st and Paul Lawrence on 2nd they were the most electrifying trombone section ever!

[ccruz996]

Better late than never.

[bllydabest]

I feel like a trespasser. I play Baritone. But I guess you can say the Trombone and Baritone are sort of like brothers of some sort.

[googlemaster6380]

in a way but isn't the baritone in bass pretty much the tuba?

[bllydabest]

You can pretty much say that. But here's a treat for 'ya. Look up; "Contrabass Saxophone". That is awesome.

[williebeaty]

it's like a tenor tuba.

[lyconthrop]

your teacher eat shit

[fatpoop619]

Well has your teacher played in a major orchestra?

[Calinours89]

what .... the LSO is prapably the most amazing orchestra in the world and to be the a amazing orchestra you must have amzing musician

[slidingthunder]

awesome! oh wait shut the fuck up

[TexasBassBone]

I will have to say I dont agree with some of his concepts, one thing I learned from studying with Douglas Yeo as a student at New England conservatory is consistency. When he demonstrates the octaves in B flat major, his articulations are all very different, and at the end when he goes from the pedal to the middle B flat 3 times repeated, all B flats both pedal and middle all had 3 different pitches per each time.

[associatedwithlosi]

Wow, I hope some day to study with a proffesional musician like Doug Yeo, well, right now I really want to at least talk to Joseph Alessi. But what way do I have of contacting him??? Well, I play tenor trombone right now and I have some mastering to do, so I have about 2 years until I start bass trombone. Do you know if having a good tuba embouchure will help?

[Ninjatrombone]

It depends on how busy he is! Us trombone players are a friendly bunch, some can be arrogant and horrible, but those in the public eye cannot afford to be so. I found talking to doug yeo very easy via email. He has a lot of time for everyone. Just email Joe from his website. I'm sure he'll get back to you. Good luck. Trombone is the best!!!!

[FUZZYisBIG]

This is Derek Ream isn't it... Fuck, 3 years on from seeing you post on a few horn forum and you still haven't lost your arrogance.

[TexasBassBone]

Lol, not arrogance dude, I am simply pointing out some of the issues in the video. There is no doubt he is an amazing player, or that he doesnt make mistakes. I have the right to disagree with something and state it, and you do as well, but to call it arrogant, I think not. I am sure you have hear recordings of trombonists from all over and disagreed with their interpretation. You are ALLOWED to comment on their playing lol...good lord.

[revoltingmexican]

The close up at 7:09 is critical for the understanding of the piece. CRITICAL!

[syyylo]

OMG!

He's a god of Bass trombone!

Especially, I do love he's trill !

That is really awesome!!

[harrysmallenburg]

to Leadbone1--Paul Miner may not do things the way your teacher told you to, but--he is the bass trombonist with the London Symphony, so the more important consideration would be, does what he's doing work? It does. Maybe the important thing is figuring out what works; if it accords with what your teachers say, well and good. But if it works, what argument against it can you make other than theoretical?

[SE4GY7]

like the one that starts at 6:34

[CarpenterKid15]

that was great. i need to fly over to London and take some lessons from him.

[fliskrules]

i play bass trombone... this guy is cool

[Alex0815musik]

Nice Sound but not really played with strong metrum. And it isn´t played in the way the continuo does it normally (historical way of playing, don´t know how to say)!! But the air links are really good. 90% works with the air and not with tongue or something else!!!!!!

[ieatbunnies3]

You said that this isnt the way that the continuo normally plays it? Well I would like to inform you that there is no "normal way" to play this piece, the only correct way to play it is beautifully!

[leadbone1]

Paul Milner has a great great sound but to all trombonists out there- notice how on the scale interval exercise that he demonstrates his embouchure shifts on every. single. note. This is BAD. Emulate his sound but not his chops, the corners of your mouth should be tight and set and should not shift between partials, even when playing in the trigger or pedal range.

[DShabe]

It doesn't appear to me that he's shifting at all. If he were, the position of the mouthpiece on his lips would change. He's only lowering his jaw for the lower notes. The mpce moves down a little in relation to his teeth and nose, but it's staying put on his lips. That's what matters. Either way, every embouchure is a little different and what works well for one may not work at all for another. Dick Nash and George Roberts have upside-down embouchures and they're two of the best ever.

[leadbone1]

Definitely there are many players who sound great with weird embouchures, but for those of us who aren't Dick Nash it's best to always strive for no movement outside the mouthpiece. It's all in the buzz.

[Ninjatrombone]

I had a consultation lesson with Paul many years ago. My embouchure wasn't great then, I needed to shift a lot. He said to me 'My embouchure isnt the most orthodox, but it works'. I always get lazy with my embouchure (you can see if you look at the video i have uploaded if 'Misty'), I need to concentrate lots, as I dont have much time now to practice.

[joebone87]

yes, he uses a bach

[BigJoe692]

@joebone87 What model Bach?

[bassbonemexie]

Got to love the youtube teachers..

[TheRealShadoninja]

I think they dubbed "speeds" at 5:53

[VickiSif]

I appreciate the advice very much! Paul's comment about phrasing in lyrical music reminded me of highschool, when my teacher scolded me for my breath-taking between the mid C's in "Why do the Nations so furiously Rage". Musically, I felt correct with the phrasing :-/

[VessBone117]

thats cool mayne

[knoxvillec8]

Um I think there's a typo. Shouldn't the Title be LSO Masterclass and not "Mastercass?"

[SymphoTrombo]

This is cool. I'm learning to play "In The Hall of the Mountain King"

[AIRTUHAPMT]

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Patético

[MrGittle]

and the piece i was referring to was the tan dun piece...thanks

[MrGittle]

hi i have a quick question...it sound as if their is a solo glissando on a high E beat 3 of the third to last measure and beat 1 and 2 of the second to last measure...but on the score its written as a B natural...is it just that the B natural is being played like tripple pianissimo

[bassbonemexie]

that's cool I will audition and see what happens, or doesn't lol.

[LLJtbone]

The LSO is about one of the greatest orchestra's out there. They played all of the Star Wars music. This guy has a really great sound.

[Ninjatrombone]

Yep, LSO did star wars, however it wasnt this guy!!! The bass trom on star wars was Bob Hughes - sadly no longer playing trombone due to distonia. (His muscles 'forgot' how to play) He was the best. Paul Milner has only recently become bass trombone for LSO (Last year or so)

[timmyedmundson]

This guy is brilliant!i remember him!he was my teacher for 4 years!fabulous teacher and player

[porkboi]

What was the name of the first piece? He talks a bit low so I didn't catch it.

[Burgerbob22]

Turn up the volume- it's easily heard.

[timmyedmundson]

sarabande from Suite no.5 from Bach Cello Suites

[porkboi]

Thank you

[Chinkaa123]

that is what i am talking about!!!!

[Killerdude240]

I play bass trombone =D

[Gredran]

i wish i played an orchestral instrument. i am learning to compose for orchestra/symphony so this is pretty interesting

[florinbasstrombone]

amazing player and sound

[Sparxnick]

me three :D

[SocalismIsPeace]

I am going to apply under bass trombone as well.