We cross Soldier Summit often on MH trips. Great area to watch equipment and operators at work. Hauling that 'nasty' old coal that the EPA seems to find so politically distasteful. CHU should maybe get fired by his boss and get a Real job some time, to better appreciate the Producing Class of society. Little 'Helper' also has an interesting bit of History on the line up through the canyon. All of Utah is 'working' to provide energy to the non-appreciative, now 'occupying' the USA. Good post.
I cant decide which is more beautiful...the look and sound of these amazing testaments of man's intellect or the one of God's, the gorgeous Utah landscape...
@normanmj The first 6 units are controled together by a two man crew in the lead cab. The 6 motors in the middle, are more than likely controled by a two man crew also. At the top of the hill, the motors in the middle will be taken out, and will returmn to Martin, and the train will continue down hill into Provo. Thanks for watching...,
@normanmj The Leading Locomotive would have what we call MU Cables, ( multiple unit cables) they are very easy to understand how they work aswell, Its all done by Electrics
@normanmj to add to 1jack's comment. The units are connected by a Jumper Cable between units. For the lack of a better term, it is like an extension cord between the units. That way its controlled by the engineer in the lead unit. it replicates throttle position in power and dynamic braking, control and fuel pump circuits and the dyn brk circuits. When the swing helper consist passes you can see a crew man walking back. The F-45 is dic and probably can't reset the problem
@TotalHavok456 Mostly because it's a pain to turn them around in the yard. The diesel engines are generators for electric motors in locomotives so they work the same forward or reverse. Only the front one needs to face forwards so the main engineer can see where he's going, signals, etc. Sometimes two locomotives will be joined back-to-back so that when the train gets to the end of the track and can't turn around they can just throw the lever and go backwards. Some locomotives have two "fronts".
What trains do the TCDD of Turkey use. I've been staying at my aunts house for a couple of weeks and hearing them go past all the time. I believe they are GE 2nd gen trains but what engines do they use?
36,000hp seems to be an excessive figure, but it's not so much when the train it's pulling weighs 12,000 tons on a uphill grade of 2%. That's only 3hp per a ton.
@trainboy437 Some of the newest containerships have 100,000 HP. Of course that is one engine and the ship can haul about the same amount of containers as a twin stack container train 28 miles long.
@trainboy437 The best ships are U.S. flag, U.S. crewed union ships. The U.S. Merchant Marines lost more men in proportion than any of the armed services except the U.S. Marine Corps in WWII.
I sure do miss the Sd40's! I absolutely hate the 5000's,,, They are so uncomfortable!!! They aint bad for short Engineers,, But I am 6'3"! 12 hrs makes for a pretty sore body on those units!!!!
hey cool vid, gota ask tho.. there seemed to be alot of tractor's or whatever ya call them, compared to the trailers, is the a monster of a hill or something ? lol. all that diesel for that amont of load.. must be the most un economical haul in history, still extremly cool tho. i work with road haulage.. diesel mechanic, as you could imagine i liked the vid lol
@nickernosher Glad you enjoyed the video Lad! There are 12 locomotives pulling 140 loaded coal hoppers of 100 tons US each, making the train 14000 tons US of weight. The train is going to climb a stiff hill for the next 30 miles or so. At the top of the hill, they will take the six locomotives out of the middle of the train, as they will not be needed down the other side the mountain. Thanks for watching, and Happy New Year to you. Take care, Jackmp294...
@1jackdk Not to sound like a train nooby (which I am), but why do they put the engines in the middle? Would it not be easier to put them on the rear, get to the top of the hill and just detach from the rear and let the rest of the train move on?
@drumbasher Basicly put, the further away you have the power from the middle or the end of a long train on a steep grade, the bigger the risk of the power pulling the train apart. Big grade, loads of power, long train = you gota spread out the power along the train more than just front and rear.
@1jackdk you forgot to take into account each of those hoppers weighs about 20,000pounds empty...so fully loaded... you're looking at 30.8million pounds.
@Jemalacane The 2033 started out as a Southern SD24 #6313, and was later rebuilt with a new cab and chopped nose, then re-classed as a SD20. If you go on the rrpicturearchives . net , and then search NREX 2033, you will see pictures and the history. Thanks for watching...
They obviously don't have DPU so I guess there's an engineer in the middle units and they are all on the same page via radio as to what notch they are in?
@TheLuke2reeve All but one unit is powered by GM (EMD) 2 stroke motors (primemovers). 8 units are GM V16 turbo charged 3000 hp. #2005 & 2033 has a GM V16 non-turbo 2000 hp. #5003 has a Caterpiller 3612, V12 twin turbo 5000 HP. #9013 has a GM V20 turbo charged 3600 hp. Hope this helps you out. Thanks for watching, and take care...
@drumbasher 2 stroke produces a power stroke every downward stroke of the piston= more power, the other advantage is the engine is capable of rapid and smooth acceleration.
The EMD 2 stroke is also legendary in its longterm relibility compared with any 4 stroke. They are quite simply bomb proof!!!
Gotta love the sound of 2 strokes at full throttle! Many mountain railroads chose to operate the SD40 and 45's because of their excellent low speed tractive effort. Most locomotive's traction motors would burn up at slow speeds, but these could handle it well. However, only the shortlines and branch lines are still using them. All the main railroads have switched over to AC loco's as they have even better traction at slow speeds, such as the GE C44-9 and the EMD SD70's through SD90's.
Hey to me EMD's and GE's are both the best! And the Utah railway needs some more AC traction motors and by the way GE is the best selling locomotive today mean 1000 locomotives a year is pretty impressive and there must be something about them the railroads like
I love the 645 or an FDL: it's the Caterpillar engines that don't belong in a locomotive. They just sound like angry bulldozers. Not sure why people hate GE locomotives so much. If they didn't make a pretty good locomotive railroads wouldn't be buying them, would they? I think what's funny about them is that the rpm's of the engine don't seem to match the ground speed of the locomotive. When an AC is whipping by you at 60, the engine just sounds like it's slowly ticking away like an old Oliver.
@1jackdk Thats discusting lol. I really hope they will stick with the 710, and a big reason I think they will is because cat will have to create a 4000-4400h.p. engine that meets 2010 epa requirments, the 710 already passed the epa requirments. We can only hope!
@1jackdk I hope not! They should leave the 710 right where it is. I heard the new Norfolk Southern Cat powered PR43 locomotive and it sounds like pure crap!
That is because the older dc locos like the SD40 and such are detroit 2-cycle diesel engines and the GE's use 4-cycle diesel engines. If you have ever heard the difference between the 2-cycle and 4-cycle semi-trucks, the main difference is that the RPMs are much lower on the locos than on trucks, somewhere near 1,000 rpms at full throttle for locos and around 3,500 for trucks. 4-cycle engines are much more efficient. Thats why more railroads are purchasing GE's.
@htc6600 People hate GE locomotives so much because alot of engineers hate them. Ask engineers and most will tell you. Also, railroads were buying GEs mostly because they are cheaper and were cranking mthem out faster than EMD.
@htc6600 Because GE could make locomotives faster and cheaper than EMD. That doesn't make them better. See where the Dash 8s will be in 10 years. Most SD40-2s will still be in service.
@htc6600 I love GEs with a passion. I left Norfolk Southern as we were taking delivery of the 9600 series C40-9Ws. They ride better than a new car. If the windows are closed you can barely hear the horn blow. When you hit a diamond, they would softly bounce up and down. Ultimate in crew comfort!
No one really likes GE because they are the most common and it's like seeing the same friend over and over again. You get sick of it and it get's repetative.
Awesome! nothing better than the sound of 2nd generation power balls out on notch 8 like this!!! It puts any new wide cab GE unit to shame! everytime!
Yea the SP was my gig too! like everything else today, this country sucks and all that was good is gone.. even decent saleries... ha! and thats not even a real laugh
Prety straightforward. If you have to much power and to much train weight between the head end and helpers, you will exceed the 390,000 lb rating of the knuckle coupler near the head end and it will break apart.
No!!! Real easy, and its a duck shoot. You can get the train until your tired of it. The railroad is along side the road the entire vway. Thanks for looking. Jackmp294
Well, The knuckle , being the part that holds two couplers together while coupled, can develope a weak place from wear or a crack. It may continue to work well under normal pulling conditions, however if the Locomotive jerks or snatches the slack out of the train real hard the knuckle may then break. Hence the term snatch a knuckle.
Holy crap, that is like what 20 electric traction motors pulling all of that if one counts all the locomotives? Talk about some serious torque! Torque FTW!
You're right about lots of torque--and it's from much more than 20 traction motors.
There were 11 6-axle locomotives running, each with 6 traction motors (the 6th unit was dead-in-tow). So, assuming all traction motors were working, that's 66 traction motors putting 34,600 hp to the rail.
The Big Boy is not considered a Mallet. Mallets where articulated & used compound expansion (high & low pressure cylinders) Big Boys where articulated, but used simple expansion, thus, they are not true Mallets. The Big Boy has about 6290 draw-bar horse power, so it would take about six to do the job. I can only imagine what that would sound like. The earth would shake for sure. Thanks for looking. Jack...
Hi Bob. There is a crew on the lead unit, and all six units are tied in with MU cables that jumper all the units together. The set in the middle also has a crew on the lead, and they are jumpered together. The crews stay in contact on there radios so they know whats going on. When the train reachs the top of the hill, the middle units will come out, and head back to Martin for their next assignment. I have another vid of this same train in a snow storm near the top of the hill. Thanks Jack
Thanks very much Jack, that's very kind of you. I have subscribed to your videos, so that when I've got a quiet moment I will have a look through some of them...regards..Bob
Thanks Bob, I'm sure there is things in my videos that everyone would like. Stuff from all over the USA and Northeastern Canada. I have been looking at some of yours, and what I've seen so far is very nice photograph work. Have a good day. Jack...
It was a MK5000. It was built by MK and has a 5000 HP CAT in it. They have all since been rebuilt as SD40-3 now, lossing their CAT power to EMD, and the 4 roof top fans are now 3. Thanks for looking. Jack
We cross Soldier Summit often on MH trips. Great area to watch equipment and operators at work. Hauling that 'nasty' old coal that the EPA seems to find so politically distasteful. CHU should maybe get fired by his boss and get a Real job some time, to better appreciate the Producing Class of society. Little 'Helper' also has an interesting bit of History on the line up through the canyon. All of Utah is 'working' to provide energy to the non-appreciative, now 'occupying' the USA. Good post.
Blogengezer 1 day ago
woah, they had a C40-8M (I thought only CN and BC Rail had those)
alexander1485 1 week ago
Nice !
ttrainmixx 1 month ago
f45+nice train=awsome
TheBigboyfan 1 month ago
I cant decide which is more beautiful...the look and sound of these amazing testaments of man's intellect or the one of God's, the gorgeous Utah landscape...
CageAroundTheSun 2 months ago
talk about not fucking around -.-
OMBIC 2 months ago
SD-40-2s in run eight. SEISMIC!
bonhommerichard1 2 months ago
Now that is power...
radbcc 3 months ago
Ooooh dude in having an eargasm!
blackflagqwerty 3 months ago
How are the additional engines controlled? Are they all connected somehow to one engine?
normanmj 4 months ago
@normanmj The first 6 units are controled together by a two man crew in the lead cab. The 6 motors in the middle, are more than likely controled by a two man crew also. At the top of the hill, the motors in the middle will be taken out, and will returmn to Martin, and the train will continue down hill into Provo. Thanks for watching...,
1jackdk 4 months ago
@normanmj The Leading Locomotive would have what we call MU Cables, ( multiple unit cables) they are very easy to understand how they work aswell, Its all done by Electrics
tyronewasup 2 months ago
@normanmj to add to 1jack's comment. The units are connected by a Jumper Cable between units. For the lack of a better term, it is like an extension cord between the units. That way its controlled by the engineer in the lead unit. it replicates throttle position in power and dynamic braking, control and fuel pump circuits and the dyn brk circuits. When the swing helper consist passes you can see a crew man walking back. The F-45 is dic and probably can't reset the problem
srats02 1 month ago
@srats02
Thanks. That's what I thought.
normanmj 1 month ago
What a GREAT, COOL, BEAUTIFUL, BIG ASS TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOVE THE TRAIN (my favourite train at the moment).and the vid.!!
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How come some of them are facing backwards? I never understood that.
TotalHavok456 6 months ago
@TotalHavok456 Mostly because it's a pain to turn them around in the yard. The diesel engines are generators for electric motors in locomotives so they work the same forward or reverse. Only the front one needs to face forwards so the main engineer can see where he's going, signals, etc. Sometimes two locomotives will be joined back-to-back so that when the train gets to the end of the track and can't turn around they can just throw the lever and go backwards. Some locomotives have two "fronts".
Kpalsm 4 months ago
What kind of locomotive is 9013?
Jemalacane 6 months ago
@Jemalacane 9013 is an F45. Same as an SD45, only in a wide body version. The 2033 is an ex-IC SD20 thats been rebuilt. Thanks for watching...
1jackdk 6 months ago
What trains do the TCDD of Turkey use. I've been staying at my aunts house for a couple of weeks and hearing them go past all the time. I believe they are GE 2nd gen trains but what engines do they use?
Do you know, they're mad as hell.
amapolishplummer 6 months ago
36,000hp seems to be an excessive figure, but it's not so much when the train it's pulling weighs 12,000 tons on a uphill grade of 2%. That's only 3hp per a ton.
tarmac2001 7 months ago
Love that EMD sound! Nice seeing an old girl in the consist as well. ex IC 2033. grew up to seeing her pull some long trains on the IC lines!
labhunter1 8 months ago
Awesome! Nice to see that MK unit in the lash-up. You can hear that Cat engine amidst the din of GM engines.
Gooberwalla 8 months ago
36,000+HP for 12 locomotives? Thats only 3,000HP per locomotive
trainboy437 8 months ago
It was nice to that ex IC SD-20 in there, still painted in IC black and still has its class number on it. I didnt know the Utah RR had a F-45.
BNforever2009 8 months ago
36,000+ HP?!
WOW
trainboy437 8 months ago
@trainboy437 Some of the newest containerships have 100,000 HP. Of course that is one engine and the ship can haul about the same amount of containers as a twin stack container train 28 miles long.
3Mudbone1 8 months ago
@3Mudbone1 O_O Thats unbelieveable!
trainboy437 8 months ago
@trainboy437 The best ships are U.S. flag, U.S. crewed union ships. The U.S. Merchant Marines lost more men in proportion than any of the armed services except the U.S. Marine Corps in WWII.
3Mudbone1 8 months ago
nevermind I see that you answered it alreadyfor some-one else. Thanks!
trnfan1 8 months ago
Hi awsome vid! What is the black motor,A SD26/24 Conversion of sort?
trnfan1 8 months ago
i wonder how they build trains, nice video
TopNotchSotelo 8 months ago
I thought the FRA rules states you could have no more than 8 powered locomotives per train?
Mlwtca 9 months ago
Vulgar display of (horse)power.
soberek 10 months ago
What a sound! God Bless the Utah Railway!!!!!
TrainTrackTrav 10 months ago
MPG 0.0000000001 !-) Awesome power !
pablof59 10 months ago
Is #2003 an Ex. IC?
livestockdana 11 months ago
Is it just me, or does every railroad that uses the old DRGW know how to do mountain railroading better than UP?
trooptpt80 1 year ago
One hell of a lashup!
NS6677 1 year ago
awsome video man.
IIIJFRIII 1 year ago
I sure do miss the Sd40's! I absolutely hate the 5000's,,, They are so uncomfortable!!! They aint bad for short Engineers,, But I am 6'3"! 12 hrs makes for a pretty sore body on those units!!!!
railblazer82 1 year ago
hey cool vid, gota ask tho.. there seemed to be alot of tractor's or whatever ya call them, compared to the trailers, is the a monster of a hill or something ? lol. all that diesel for that amont of load.. must be the most un economical haul in history, still extremly cool tho. i work with road haulage.. diesel mechanic, as you could imagine i liked the vid lol
nickernosher 1 year ago
@nickernosher Glad you enjoyed the video Lad! There are 12 locomotives pulling 140 loaded coal hoppers of 100 tons US each, making the train 14000 tons US of weight. The train is going to climb a stiff hill for the next 30 miles or so. At the top of the hill, they will take the six locomotives out of the middle of the train, as they will not be needed down the other side the mountain. Thanks for watching, and Happy New Year to you. Take care, Jackmp294...
1jackdk 1 year ago
@1jackdk Not to sound like a train nooby (which I am), but why do they put the engines in the middle? Would it not be easier to put them on the rear, get to the top of the hill and just detach from the rear and let the rest of the train move on?
drumbasher 1 year ago
@drumbasher Basicly put, the further away you have the power from the middle or the end of a long train on a steep grade, the bigger the risk of the power pulling the train apart. Big grade, loads of power, long train = you gota spread out the power along the train more than just front and rear.
formidable38 1 year ago
@formidable38 great explaination, thank you
drumbasher 1 year ago
@drumbasher No problem. Also, from a very reliable source, the standard drawbar capacity on the cars are rated at 390,000 lbs of pull.
All that power in the wrong place on that train will break a drawbar / coupler!
formidable38 1 year ago
@1jackdk more like 130-140 tons a car
AmJaxineer 10 months ago
@1jackdk you forgot to take into account each of those hoppers weighs about 20,000pounds empty...so fully loaded... you're looking at 30.8million pounds.
4Mr2ThC0 8 months ago
What kind of locomotive is 2033?
Jemalacane 1 year ago
@Jemalacane The 2033 started out as a Southern SD24 #6313, and was later rebuilt with a new cab and chopped nose, then re-classed as a SD20. If you go on the rrpicturearchives . net , and then search NREX 2033, you will see pictures and the history. Thanks for watching...
1jackdk 1 year ago
@1jackdk I think that Illinois Central converted it to a SD20 a it's Paducah shops.I have picture of I.C.SD20's at Homewood yard.
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Jemalacane 1 year ago
They obviously don't have DPU so I guess there's an engineer in the middle units and they are all on the same page via radio as to what notch they are in?
BARRIEMOREBARLOW 1 year ago
what kind of motors do the run like a straight 6 or like a straight 8 or something i am not sure please let me know
TheLuke2reeve 1 year ago
@TheLuke2reeve All but one unit is powered by GM (EMD) 2 stroke motors (primemovers). 8 units are GM V16 turbo charged 3000 hp. #2005 & 2033 has a GM V16 non-turbo 2000 hp. #5003 has a Caterpiller 3612, V12 twin turbo 5000 HP. #9013 has a GM V20 turbo charged 3600 hp. Hope this helps you out. Thanks for watching, and take care...
1jackdk 1 year ago 3
@1jackdk the CAT has 4 stroke engines no?
kdlehel 1 year ago
@1jackdk Why 2 stroke? I always thought that 4 stroke engines created more torque and hp?
drumbasher 1 year ago
@drumbasher 2 stroke produces a power stroke every downward stroke of the piston= more power, the other advantage is the engine is capable of rapid and smooth acceleration.
The EMD 2 stroke is also legendary in its longterm relibility compared with any 4 stroke. They are quite simply bomb proof!!!
formidable38 1 year ago
You really know this stuff! my compliments! So guess you are right about the total horsepower amount of that convoy, 36000 hp sounds very logical.
Why some locomotives pull and other push?
thanks for the gr8 video!
alfonsinho74 10 months ago
48000 hp?
johnromanchenko 1 year ago
Always impressed with how clean those cat engines burn. Most two strokes are dirty bastards but those seem to work just fine.
Polybun 1 year ago
Lets just throw this SD20 in there for good measure! Love it.
TheScottman420 1 year ago
Well EMD's are cool! And the utah needs newer models! And they need GE's as well!!
Rtchugg 1 year ago
Ah yah two stroke on run 8. power power power
agaviator231 1 year ago
Raw EMD horsepower right there! Nothin beats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SkyhawkACE123 1 year ago 6
Total Power, Great Video.
duff0929 1 year ago
crap! Better not let the EPA see this one!
shadowknight227 1 year ago
I used to haul the GE engines to CA. 48000lbs, 4100hp @ 2100rpm
24preacherboy 1 year ago
i believe 2033 is a sd20
bradnoga 1 year ago
Gotta love the sound of 2 strokes at full throttle! Many mountain railroads chose to operate the SD40 and 45's because of their excellent low speed tractive effort. Most locomotive's traction motors would burn up at slow speeds, but these could handle it well. However, only the shortlines and branch lines are still using them. All the main railroads have switched over to AC loco's as they have even better traction at slow speeds, such as the GE C44-9 and the EMD SD70's through SD90's.
creeddude98 1 year ago
hear that cat purr lol, im more of an EMD fan myself but being from Utah myself, hearing those cats puts a smile on my face XD
UPrailroad 1 year ago
thats a great video
robandkimmie1 1 year ago
Wow, talk about horsepower at work! I would love to know what kind of grade this is???
chrissd40 1 year ago
Hey to me EMD's and GE's are both the best! And the Utah railway needs some more AC traction motors and by the way GE is the best selling locomotive today mean 1000 locomotives a year is pretty impressive and there must be something about them the railroads like
Rtchugg 1 year ago
I love the 645 or an FDL: it's the Caterpillar engines that don't belong in a locomotive. They just sound like angry bulldozers. Not sure why people hate GE locomotives so much. If they didn't make a pretty good locomotive railroads wouldn't be buying them, would they? I think what's funny about them is that the rpm's of the engine don't seem to match the ground speed of the locomotive. When an AC is whipping by you at 60, the engine just sounds like it's slowly ticking away like an old Oliver.
htc6600 1 year ago
@htc6600 Its going to be interesting to see what happens to EMD now that Caterpiller has purchased them. We might start seeing Cat powered EMDS...
1jackdk 1 year ago
@1jackdk Thats discusting lol. I really hope they will stick with the 710, and a big reason I think they will is because cat will have to create a 4000-4400h.p. engine that meets 2010 epa requirments, the 710 already passed the epa requirments. We can only hope!
SkyhawkACE123 1 year ago
@1jackdk I hope not! They should leave the 710 right where it is. I heard the new Norfolk Southern Cat powered PR43 locomotive and it sounds like pure crap!
8747csx 1 year ago
That is because the older dc locos like the SD40 and such are detroit 2-cycle diesel engines and the GE's use 4-cycle diesel engines. If you have ever heard the difference between the 2-cycle and 4-cycle semi-trucks, the main difference is that the RPMs are much lower on the locos than on trucks, somewhere near 1,000 rpms at full throttle for locos and around 3,500 for trucks. 4-cycle engines are much more efficient. Thats why more railroads are purchasing GE's.
creeddude98 1 year ago
@htc6600 People hate GE locomotives so much because alot of engineers hate them. Ask engineers and most will tell you. Also, railroads were buying GEs mostly because they are cheaper and were cranking mthem out faster than EMD.
richsd40 1 year ago
@htc6600 Because GE could make locomotives faster and cheaper than EMD. That doesn't make them better. See where the Dash 8s will be in 10 years. Most SD40-2s will still be in service.
richsd40 1 year ago
@htc6600 I love GEs with a passion. I left Norfolk Southern as we were taking delivery of the 9600 series C40-9Ws. They ride better than a new car. If the windows are closed you can barely hear the horn blow. When you hit a diamond, they would softly bounce up and down. Ultimate in crew comfort!
8747csx 1 year ago
@htc6600 Because GE is cheap.....EMD ALL THE WAY
SkyhawkACE123 1 year ago
@htc6600
No one really likes GE because they are the most common and it's like seeing the same friend over and over again. You get sick of it and it get's repetative.
PixelatedTV 1 year ago
baddd asss
chevy3421 1 year ago
Amazing! A CAT and a 567 all in 1 train (plus the 645s)! That must have been quite deafening.
stlgevo51 1 year ago
Awesome sound! Great Catch
FireCaptE9 1 year ago
Lot of power on work on this hill side !
SynthesizerUniverse 1 year ago
Lotsa power there !!
pareido 1 year ago
wtf, what is the wheigth of this train?? 20.000 tons?
Darkstylerz 2 years ago
@Darkstylerz That sounds about right.
A 1GW coal fired power plant uses 10,000 ton per day.
tsport100 2 years ago
Fantastic EMD (and Cat) sounds. Thanks Mate!!
normken 2 years ago
1:55 FP45 FTW... :D
nice to see one... :)
KraljLazar 2 years ago
This is GREAT !!!! Big Power Working Hard!!!!
vtracer 2 years ago
wait...time out...is the 2033 one of those re-built sd24's?
lennyos 2 years ago
Damn thats a lot of power!
UnionPacificRules 2 years ago 2
is 5003 cat powered sounded different?
Learnin2Fly08 2 years ago
Yes it is! 5000 hp of Cat power. Thanks for watching.
1jackdk 2 years ago
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Learnin2Fly08 2 years ago
Thanks for tha response. Awesome vids also keep it up!!!
Learnin2Fly08 2 years ago
wow maybe someday cat will be a top competetor to emd and ge in loco building!
guilford681 2 years ago
most of teh cats have been pulled out and replaced with EMDs....
BudmanPackfan 2 years ago
EMD power......that's a familiar sound here on the Florida East Coast
jdoggybizzle 2 years ago
just think what would happen if it has crashed... big bomb
jksnow500 2 years ago
Awesome! nothing better than the sound of 2nd generation power balls out on notch 8 like this!!! It puts any new wide cab GE unit to shame! everytime!
EsPeSD40T 2 years ago 17
Amen!!!
EMD's at their best. Thanks for watching...
1jackdk 2 years ago
what is the % of grade?
This is such music to the ears. 5* and favorited.
clinton984 2 years ago 3
I wish we had that scenery in Michigan! The Utah Railway looks like a class act! Beautiful power! God, I miss the SP....
mygirl22ward 2 years ago 3
Yea the SP was my gig too! like everything else today, this country sucks and all that was good is gone.. even decent saleries... ha! and thats not even a real laugh
EsPeSD40T 2 years ago
Ahhhh, the sound of two strokes at full power. Awesome!!!
massltca 2 years ago 24
Holy shit! this is pure porn :)
Rakapuckar 2 years ago
Chuck Norris who?
Air0374 2 years ago
What model was the full cowl SD locomotive in the DPU? Was there is a Cat engined MK5000 on the head end?
epistte 2 years ago
The full cowled unit is a F45. The cat powered unit was the 4th unit on the headed. #5003. Thanks for watching. Jackmp294
1jackdk 2 years ago
Now that's power.
TimeLapseSteve 2 years ago
Sweet EMD music!
MDSerles 2 years ago 6
HOLY!!!!
dwalers 2 years ago
I would of loved to have been there to feel the ground shake that must have been amazing
Railfan88 2 years ago
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trevorandy 2 years ago
Awesome video! Gotta love that SD20 in mid-train!
SWPrrFanA1 2 years ago 2
WOW, SD20! SD40-2s! F45s! all online are in run 8, thats fantastic
NJT4111 2 years ago
.that is an assload of power...
justin0185 2 years ago
You ain't shitin!!!! The ground was shaking with this bad boy...
1jackdk 2 years ago
hell yea!!! thats when you know they are working and there is a lot of power.
justin0185 2 years ago
Anybody know what factor(s) determine the choice between mid-train and rear-end helpers placement?
musicandtrains 2 years ago
Prety straightforward. If you have to much power and to much train weight between the head end and helpers, you will exceed the 390,000 lb rating of the knuckle coupler near the head end and it will break apart.
formidable38 2 years ago 4
Man, no fooling around here.
rad3766 2 years ago
Is it difficult to go there?
wilzchau 2 years ago
No!!! Real easy, and its a duck shoot. You can get the train until your tired of it. The railroad is along side the road the entire vway. Thanks for looking. Jackmp294
1jackdk 2 years ago
Jack, He had a couple of locomotives, didn.t he. LOL I.m suprized the didnt snatch a knuckle.
pwalpar 3 years ago
Excellent handling by the crew I would say. And there was NO doubt, he was hauling the mail. LOL... I got to go back, soon!!! Take care, Jack
1jackdk 3 years ago
what does it mean to snatch a knuckle
anderberger 2 years ago
Well, The knuckle , being the part that holds two couplers together while coupled, can develope a weak place from wear or a crack. It may continue to work well under normal pulling conditions, however if the Locomotive jerks or snatches the slack out of the train real hard the knuckle may then break. Hence the term snatch a knuckle.
pwalpar 2 years ago
thanks for a great video. I wish I saw that in person
bigpete405 3 years ago
It was really something to see!!! I got to get back there someday. Thanks for watching. Jackmp294...
1jackdk 3 years ago
Holy crap, that is like what 20 electric traction motors pulling all of that if one counts all the locomotives? Talk about some serious torque! Torque FTW!
EETechs 3 years ago
You're right about lots of torque--and it's from much more than 20 traction motors.
There were 11 6-axle locomotives running, each with 6 traction motors (the 6th unit was dead-in-tow). So, assuming all traction motors were working, that's 66 traction motors putting 34,600 hp to the rail.
trainiax 2 years ago
wow what a sound Hammer down all the way love the sound full power and turbo's thank man a real treat.
togreektown 3 years ago
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing with us.
Superedit 3 years ago
tks for sharing grant ive seen this one before, 5 **** rated again ! yup very impresive power move!
juvmol 3 years ago
Always cool watching them go up the canyon.
trikmitruk 3 years ago
Hot damn that is impressive!
royalewithcheese12 3 years ago
EMD power all the way! Great catch on the leased IC SD20 'Skunk' and the F45.
Bellwestern80 3 years ago
best sound ever!
SkyhawkACE123 3 years ago
It IS fantastic. The ground was shaking. You just gotta love it. Thanks for watching. Jack
1jackdk 3 years ago
I just caught a rio grande hopper just about 2 months ago!
xxxDeath9572xxx 3 years ago
NOw that is how you pull a train!
xxxDeath9572xxx 3 years ago
Stroll on! How many UP 'Big Boy' Mallets would you need to arrange for 36,000hp output?
SteffanLlwyd 3 years ago
The Big Boy is not considered a Mallet. Mallets where articulated & used compound expansion (high & low pressure cylinders) Big Boys where articulated, but used simple expansion, thus, they are not true Mallets. The Big Boy has about 6290 draw-bar horse power, so it would take about six to do the job. I can only imagine what that would sound like. The earth would shake for sure. Thanks for looking. Jack...
1jackdk 3 years ago
Thanks for that. I take your point about 'compounding'. Six Big Boys. Just imagine!
SteffanLlwyd 3 years ago
And ... steam loco peak output power is available only in a very narrow speed range. Gives "peak" a very different meaning, recip steam vs diesel.
Whereas, diesel can essentially sustain output at its rated max. once going fast enough to keep traction motors cool. (DC motors.)
This is a real "apples/oranges" situation, IOW.
(Some aren't so picky about Mallet = strictly compound-expansion.)
woodscritter 3 years ago
What an amazing sight Jack, are those locos worked in multiple or is there a crew in each one?...5*..Bob (Wales, UK)
robmasterman 3 years ago
Hi Bob. There is a crew on the lead unit, and all six units are tied in with MU cables that jumper all the units together. The set in the middle also has a crew on the lead, and they are jumpered together. The crews stay in contact on there radios so they know whats going on. When the train reachs the top of the hill, the middle units will come out, and head back to Martin for their next assignment. I have another vid of this same train in a snow storm near the top of the hill. Thanks Jack
1jackdk 3 years ago
Thanks very much Jack, that's very kind of you. I have subscribed to your videos, so that when I've got a quiet moment I will have a look through some of them...regards..Bob
robmasterman 3 years ago
Thanks Bob, I'm sure there is things in my videos that everyone would like. Stuff from all over the USA and Northeastern Canada. I have been looking at some of yours, and what I've seen so far is very nice photograph work. Have a good day. Jack...
1jackdk 3 years ago
Thanks Jack, my work is very different to yours in many respects, and I shall look forward to seeing your work in more detail..Bob
robmasterman 3 years ago
Superb! 5*
NN2Blue 3 years ago
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Jack
1jackdk 3 years ago
Smoke, sand, exhaust!! Totally awesome! What railroading is all about.
sp8192 3 years ago
It doesn't get much better than that!!! Nothing like hard working railroads in the mountains. Thanks for looking. Jack...
1jackdk 3 years ago
What a great sound... And what a fantastic string of locomotives! Gotta love that chugging SD20. When was this filmed?
trainiax 3 years ago
They do sound great!!!This was filmed on April 21,2001. Thanks for looking. Jack
1jackdk 3 years ago
Music to my ears Love the sound of the EMD Two strokes!
blackflagqwerty 3 years ago 5
It is a beautiful thing... Thanks for looking. Jack...
1jackdk 3 years ago
This one needs more than five stars :)
ZetanCrisp 3 years ago 2
Thanks for the compliment, and glad you enjoyed the video... Jack
1jackdk 3 years ago
beautiful sound......reminds me of the old espee at Tehachappi
huettmr 3 years ago 3
WOW!!! THIS IS AWESOME!!!
The 9th unit seems to be a SDP40F, is that correct?
Independofuck 3 years ago
I just found out it's an F45... But ex-ATSF, as I suggested... :) 5 Stars
Independofuck 3 years ago
I was not sure but what was that Fourth unit in the lead set?
railfanman 3 years ago
It was a MK5000. It was built by MK and has a 5000 HP CAT in it. They have all since been rebuilt as SD40-3 now, lossing their CAT power to EMD, and the 4 roof top fans are now 3. Thanks for looking. Jack
1jackdk 3 years ago
Ya I thought the nose looked pretty slanted, Great video :)
railfanman 3 years ago