Why not Qh4? I know you said that someone could throw the Knight up to f3, but that would only work as a deterrent. If someone plays Bc4, then Qh4 is eventually going to force check / ruin white's chances of castling.
@thesilentsilas Qh4 is usually played by people rated under 2000. I am not sure why, but higher level players don't seem to do it, even though it forces Kf1. One reason is that later a tempo will be regained when the knight comes out, and another is that having the queen out early against the gambit doesn't seem to help as much as having a minor piece out.
@okrabay All fischer did was lock himself and study chess everyday. That develop into anixety disorder when he wasnt by himself and then slowly by slowly developpe into paranoia. That why fischer end up leaving and going crazy. You cant obsess over something to much or else your mind wont be able to do anything else.
Is the King's Gambit worth it? I mean I've studied it and have had mixed results. It's actually my favorite opening but it seems to be hard to play effectively but easy to exploit black if they make a mistake.
When I play this opening as white, I really quite like 3. ... Qh4+ 4. Kf1. The king is actually pretty safe on f1 and white will soon be gaining time on the black queen with Nf3. White can just play simple developing moves from here and usually ends up with a great game.
I have run into couple of issues with this situations because the Queen is attacking my pawn on e4. If I bring my pawn to d3, the Queen aggitates the king by putting him in check or block me from castling. Black is also able to develope their pieces better. Any help would be great. From Philly!!!
Great video! Question - After playing the kings Gambit & offering the pawn, if the oppponent declines & instead plays the queen to H4 (placing my king in check) is it best to just block it with a pawn (white pawn to G3) or just move the king? I usually just block with the pawn but I'm not sure if that's best because I suppose it weakens my defence? I'm a beginner trying to learn the openings
@covladsean if you have already moved your light squared bishop (Bc4 most likely) - it's best to move the king. When black plays Qh4+ its actually better for white as the queen is misplaced and white gains a tempo chasing it away with Nf3. Playing g3 can significantly weaken your light squares.
@OnlineChessLessons I think he means if black plays 2. ... Qh4+, in which case 3. g3 is pretty much mandatory. Sure, it creates a slight weakness on white's Kingside, but I'd take the white pieces in that position any day.
After Fischer's opening bishop to c4, what would his response be if the black queen checked his king on h4? Seems to me that the game would be a lot harder to win if black did play that move.
"black should check with queen and make white lose castling privileges"
WRONG.
Black checks. White simply plays Kf1. If black then plays f4 to f3 white can take with queen and is positioned for a mating attack. In any case, Black queen check accomplishes little to nothing beyond exposing the black queen to attack, losing vital tempo, AND giving white even more development advantage + increased control of the center.
First queen H3 right away makes it so the king cant castle. Most would play that. second mistake by black was to put the knight there blocking in his own queen... knight f6 puts pressure on an undefended pawn forcing either d3 or knight c3. So many weaknesses to black. Ive never played a game where ppl actually fall into these traps.
If King's Gambit has a higher win% for Black than White, and Fischer only used it 8 times (at least in database, so I presume out of all his official pro-matches), then is it fair to say that this is not a recommended strategy unless you know your opponent is weak?
I'm getting the feeling that Minic Dragoljub is playing a pretty poor Black-game here.
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>>> at least i feel like i do. Openings give players a hint at the persons strategy and your just trying to familiarize yourself with their strat and possibly trump their strategy cuz you already are familar ( at least in an ideal situation being that your already skilled) and you play along and accept or decline for psychological effect perhaps. It still is ridiculous how good people are and even the computer is just insane. Its like it just analyzes pressure lines and uses that.
I'm not a skilled chess player but this accepted Gambit looks so vicious. Does anyone know a game with Fisher where someone forced a queen trade off or is that even allowed cuz of the point system? I like to trade off queens if i feel that we are even in pieces or especially if i make out another piece but most of all i like to play more linear i guess you could say. I'm learning about openings and ya know i actually got the whole thing right away :) thanks
I have a copy of My 60 Most Memorable Games by Bobby Fisher and I don't see him playing a kings gambit in any of them. Some one he played against played a kings gambit.
I got stuck real bad... if black doesnt accept.. rather brings queen to h4 ..checking the white king.. i couldn't see ne strong line for white... King may move to e2 ..blocking white bishop development.. white may push pawn g3...but doesn't seem to strong.. ne ideas on this line?
What happened at the end of the match? I'm pretty sure Fischer won, but I would have liked to seen the moves played with or without a brief commentary :P
After BB3 there's no reason for black to capture the pawn on E4. The problem is with that knight on E7 blocking in the bishop. Moving the knight out to that position was a bad setup.
if your strategy fails its because you dont make it good enough... playing without strategy makes chess meaningless.
the kings gambit however is probably the sharpest opening out there, it relies strongly on a player's calculation. black here chose a passive continuation: 3. ... Nd7. The sharpest move would have been 3. ... Qh4+, but fischer's opponent was probably afraid to play sharply against him, and got outplayed strategically instead. check spassky's king gambit vs fischer
it does stop/block a chess position when the white knight is moved to E3 only before the bishop is moved to C4. This prevents the black queen to move to H4 because the queen will get beaten by the knight.
@taylorfiveo and the other 28 here did not understand at all, it was clearly said that if kf3 was played before the bishop that means knight is already at f3 before black could play his queen, and that would stop him to make a check at h5
@taylorfiveo and the other 28 here did not understand at all, it was clearly said that if kf3 was played before the bishop that means knight is already at f3 before black could play his queen, and that would stop him to make a check at h5
2: Nf3 will stop the queen from Qh4+, because the knight would capture black's queen with Nh4. Jrobi is saying that instead of moving Bc4, he could've moved Nf3. It won't physically block the queen, but it will block Qh4+.
3: Please learn to write chess moves correctly. Here's a website to get you started: michess(dot)org/scholastic/notation.shtml
@chester10999 what hes saying is that black could have played Qh4+ instead of Ne7 which would have effectively forced the white king to move. Obviously however the greatest chess player of all time was aware of this but he still found it beneficial to move the white bishop prior to the g1 knight.
@taylorfiveo what jrobi meant was (i'm sure) , if the knight is played to f3 before! the queen comes down to h5 to check, it can prevent it from coming there in the first place. otherwise, if it's played after the queen checks, "qh4, kf3, qxe1 game over. ; you would not play that move anyway so....
@DSXmachine That's one of possible black continuations. White plays then Kf1, and in the next move Nf3 driving queen away. White loses the right to castle, but instead gains a tempo and additional development (Nf3).
@DSXmachine There's no need to block your queen on d1. As i remember Kf1 continuation is called Greco Variant. Paul Morphy played that variant vs. Alonzo Morphy in 1848. After 3. ... Qh4+ 4. Kf1, black played 4. ... Bc5. 5. d4 Bb6 6. Nf3 He7 and white clearly controls the center of the board. The next move was 7. Nc3 and white had his both knights and a bishop developed.
you mentioned Fishers liking of the Bishops on tap Kasparov says the Russians believe the Knights and Bishops are equal Knights better in opening Bishops in end game but Fisher always insisted the Bishops are stronger he also says they nick named him C4 he understands y but he would of nick named Fisher the White Bishop he says no 1 ever had or ever will match his use of the White Bishop
@freddyp91 it's a bullshit move. don't worry about it. bishop checks, then move the king. Now the black queen is stuck defending the bishop from being taken by the knight.. Patzer sees check, patzer gives check! How will black now develop his king side knight? knight f6 or e7 blocks defense of the bishop
If the Bishop wen first Knight to F3 wont do anything... the queen goes in a black diagonal where the knight lands on a white square...but if you ment doing it before then Nevermind
after 2 minute you say that knight can block queen on the check line with f3, how if queen checks? f3 would still remain you checked, so did i miss something and why queen doesnt check there but plays knight to e7?
I need a video on kings gambit accepted when they defend the pawn after the gambit with the g pawn followed by queen check or queen defence. My computer seems to do it all the time and it seems to be really hard to defend even with knight opening.
why did black move his king side knight to e7 instead of f6 both serve the same purpose of defending the d5 square, and also knight on f6 has prevents the open f file.
I think that if knight goes to f6, then the pawn will push to e5.
After that knight will either retreat to starting position or put himself on e4 which is actually very bad for him, because if white attack it someway it will sacrifice himself or retreat while white developing.
yeah, but instead of Nf6, white could simply return the queen to D8. Seems like it would be worth the lost move to disrupt the castling. But I know you are right, otherwise Fischer would not have done it.
King's Gambit is rarely played at GM level - as grandmasters are usually the most risk-averse players around. However, it does have it's exponents, such as Morozevich, Thomas Johansson, Victor Korchnoi, and Spassky. It is much more popular at club level and in internet blitz.
I can recommend the King's Gambit as an opening for agressive players. Also, many of the arising endgames are favorable for White - due to greater center control - so that is not too much to worry.
From Black's point of view, he will usually try to blunt the bishop with a combination of Nf6, c6, and d5. If White plays Nc3, Bb4 pinning the knight with possible doubled pawns, is typical.
At most levels Black seldom tries too hard to hold his extra pawn. As I have said moves such as g5 or Nh5 are weakening, and so Black usually wants equal play rather than "refutation." Meanwhile White usually sacrifices his pawns quite aggressively - he wants to attack.
From White's point of view, the early Bc4 creates opportunities, especially the bishop sac Bxf7+. For example after the line 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Bc5?! 4. Bxf7+! Kxf7 5. Qh5+ Ke8 6. Qxc5 - White has regained his piece and Black's king is no longer castling.
Another example of f7 vulnerability is 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Be7?! 4. Qh5 - the White pieces threaten to take on f7. This line is equal but gives excellent play for White.
Therefore the more dynamic way to play the King's Gambit is 3. Bc4 - the King's Bishop Gambit. White prepares to answer Qh4+ with Kf1! getting a secure position WITHOUT CASTLING. The Black queen is vulnerable on h4 to counterattack, i.e. Nf3. And the king's quite safe on f1, believe it or not!
It is generally agreed among strong players that Qh4+ is in fact rather lousy for Black. There are some fine Grandmaster wins in this line for White in the modern era.
The ancient way of handling the King's Gambit is 3. Nf3, or the King's Knight Gambit. This move carries with it the idea of blocking Qh4, but unfortunately gives Black a potential target with g5-g4. For example, the "Fischer Defence" is1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d6!? 4. d4 g5 5. h4 g4!! 6. Ng1 (the knight has nowhere else to go). Lines such as these are why the King's Knight Gambit is not too popular anymore - Black just has space and an extra pawn. They are a little overextended, but its OK.
Now the third point. The lost pawn isn't actually too secure on f4 - White can usually re-capture it with a d4 thrust, activating the bishop on c1. For Black to stubbornly keep his pawn, he must play a weakening move such as g4, which opens his kingside up to counterplay. Otherwise he has to put a knight on h5 - the knight wastes time to get to h5, and isn't too secure there either. Therefore Black usually doesn't try to hard to keep his pawn, but capitalizes on his "attacking" chances.
The second point is the open f-file - it create opportunity for both sides. White will usually want his rook on f1, targeting Black's f7, but Black is also given a route (Qh4+) to White's King. This is the main reason why play in the King's Gambit is so violent. Both players want to capitalize on their attacking opportunities.
The point of the gambit is POSITIONAL - White diverts the Black e-pawn so that he can gain the option of d4, occupying the center. Therefore it isn't just simply about losing a pawn for nothing - White has compensation, and can play to win.
For all the guys scratching their heads here, I think it's time you've heard from somebody who actually plays the King's Gambit. I use the King's Gambit a lot in online chess, and it is indeed 'powderful' enough to use at any level of chess.
The King's Gambit is in fact a very old opening, ancient 100-year plus, and to this day no "refutation" exists, despite Fischer claiming to have done so. Anand was beaten as recently as 1995 in the King's Gambit.
I,ve been seeing that opening and did not know the name for awhile ! Looks like a great opening/game liked everything except leaving the king exposed for blacks queen to put whites king in check by not moving whites knight out b 4 moving whites bishop !!
hi jrobi! i enjoied some of ur chess-vids and i want to thank u for the instructive input.its nicer to see the pieces movin'animated than read the moves in a book what i did the last 20 years..;-) i think bobby was the best player ever seen in chess, though his opening repertoire was predictable before 1972.1) E4 "best by test" keep workin'+thx for the vids!
I just played an online match with King's Gambit accepted as Black. And I was about to win, but then it disconnected for someone reason and they gave me a loss. I had beautifully stamped out his counterplay and was about to enter the end game up material.
you should check this video again. Fiscer played Bc4 before opening knight so it is possible to play Qh4+, in which case you must move the king (Kf1 is the best move there). Personally i like that move because white can't castle anymore!
jrobi, i have a question, what is i play the kings gambit, but instead of taking the gambit, they play and imidiate qH4+, then we play G3 to block, then black plays Qe7, i have alto of trouble with this line, and i was wondering if you could help me
that's where the line ends as far as I know for that variation. When I play as white vs that, I usualy develope my white bischop to c4. But that's my style...
i cn tell you that that only works if you do the bishub first so like fischer played it many will attack with the queen so what fischer did then was just let the king go 2 f1 that why it doesnt score so high win % so thats why most players do th knight to f3 first so the queen cant strike with a check
Qh4+ check is not a good move at all for black. Because white can get into the Greco variation with Bishops Gambit, and if you know how to play it Black is going to be in a lot of trouble. for example: Qh4+ . Kf1. Bc5. d4. Bb6. Nf3. now the Queen has to move which favors white here in anyway, and there are a lot of traps in this position. I hope I can show you sometime in a video or smthing.
I don't think 3. Qh4+ is as bad as some say. I usually do quite well after 3. Bc4 Qh4+!? 4. Kf1 (4. g3?! fxg3 isn't losing, but black can build up a nasty attack. g2+ is a threat (Nc3 would lose because 5. Nc3?? g2+! 6. Nxh4 gxh1=Q drops a rook) Nc6 [Boden Defense, C33] with ideas of Bc5, and black gets attacking chances. Sharp stuff. And I do well in sharp games. Dessan01, I agree development can be stifled with Nc3, but the queen can jump over to c5 with attacking chances on White's king.
Hey Jrobi. I like your videos. Your explanation is clear (Y). But 1 Question. after Bishop to c4. if black now comes down with the queen en give check on h4 then white's king has to move to f1. Doesnt this give black a better position? Because white can't castle anymore and it's rook is going to have a hard time coming out.
Is there any game where Fischer played such a kind of match? He probably did
Hello Jrobi, Perhaps you can help. I often play the Kings Gambit and during the Kings Gambit accepted lines. I Play Knight to F3 to prevent the impending queen check, my opponents often respond with bishop to E7 creating a double attack on the H4 square. What is an effective move to use in this situation? I am often faced with the having the choice of moving my king thus preventing castling or weakening up my king side pawn structure.
H4 and G3 are the only two moves that can actually prevent the impending disaster and still allow for a castle. Of course this is sacrifising another pawn and it tells your opponent that you intend to castle queen's side. If you don't make one of these two moves you will be unable to castle at all since they will force the king to move but you are not yet dead in the water.
I think a lot of people (including Jrobi, who never seems that keen to go into move orders and specifics!) are missing the point in this opening - the Qh4 check is one of blacks least dangerous ideas - scroll down into my comments below for examples.
And pat10034 youre playing the busted Knights gambit there, dont worry about not been able to castle, play 3.Bc4!
If you, after the opponent moves to e7, move the pawn to H4, you've created a double defence on that square by the rook and the knight. Often works for me. Or just castle.
Theres no doubt that 3.Bc4 (the Bishops Gambit) is a much sharper than 3.Nf3 (the Knights Gambit) which has pretty much been busted by computers now any modern book on the KGA recommends 3.Bc4. I notice in the video you say the Qh4 check can be blocked by Nf3 thats not true if Black plays it straight after 3.Bc4 White then has to play Kf1 and cant castle anymore.
However this is not a big deal for White, in fact when I play the KG I always hope that Black goes for the check - because not only does he end up behind on development he will be troubled by the artificial position of his Queen for the rest of the game. Moves like Nc3 will eventually come, gaining tempo, and white can take the centre with d4 incidentally uncovering the dark squared Bishop on the weak pawn at f4.
It has to be said that Fischer only ever used the KG against much weaker players than himself. Fischer actually hated the KG ever since Spassky hammered him with it in 1960 the young Fischer left in tears, he went home and began a detailed study of playing the Kings Knights Gambit from the Black side of the board. He came up with the Fischer defence (3...d6) and arrogantly announced a year later that this move refuted the whole opening a questionable statement!
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beautiful clip i like it .. thanks for posting
fivequotes 6 days ago
3:17 how does knight f3 block the king?
TheTrollUnderABridge 1 week ago
@TheTrollUnderABridge i think he meant if you were to play the knight move before the bishop
purplefox17 1 week ago
Jrobi I appreciate the effort of making these videos but the analysis is poor. You would do well to learn from jerry at chessnetwork
iliginjaili 3 weeks ago
Wait,
1. e4, e5
2. f4, xf4
3.Bc4
Why not Qh4? I know you said that someone could throw the Knight up to f3, but that would only work as a deterrent. If someone plays Bc4, then Qh4 is eventually going to force check / ruin white's chances of castling.
thesilentsilas 2 months ago
@thesilentsilas Back in the day Bc4 used to be much more common than Nf3
If Qh4 then Kf1 and white can't castle but many games have still been won by white in this line
xEric1993 2 months ago
@thesilentsilas Qh4 is usually played by people rated under 2000. I am not sure why, but higher level players don't seem to do it, even though it forces Kf1. One reason is that later a tempo will be regained when the knight comes out, and another is that having the queen out early against the gambit doesn't seem to help as much as having a minor piece out.
analyticannoyance 3 weeks ago
risky risky opener def ..!!
Bodlasona 2 months ago
Wait, I wanted the rest of the game!
tjohn1986 3 months ago in playlist More videos from jrobichess 5
Fisher had access to russian games data bases at an ealry age before many players were studying them.
This is what made him strong but once karpov and others began training this way he knew he was in trouble.
You dont back down from a challenge when you know you can win.
okrabay 3 months ago
@okrabay All fischer did was lock himself and study chess everyday. That develop into anixety disorder when he wasnt by himself and then slowly by slowly developpe into paranoia. That why fischer end up leaving and going crazy. You cant obsess over something to much or else your mind wont be able to do anything else.
UnderDog988 1 month ago
Is the King's Gambit worth it? I mean I've studied it and have had mixed results. It's actually my favorite opening but it seems to be hard to play effectively but easy to exploit black if they make a mistake.
kikook222 4 months ago
@kikook222 Me to...
August3B 1 month ago
Probably Fischer lost the game. That's why he didn't cast the ending :P
Hoihoijooah 6 months ago
@Hoihoijooah Fischer obviously won lol
RookieN08 5 months ago
aw, all that buildup and then no finish!
johnross456 6 months ago
When I play this opening as white, I really quite like 3. ... Qh4+ 4. Kf1. The king is actually pretty safe on f1 and white will soon be gaining time on the black queen with Nf3. White can just play simple developing moves from here and usually ends up with a great game.
SuperMyfamily01 7 months ago
@taylorfiveo, unless his opponent was an idiot, he wouldnt move it there,just to put him in check for a move and be taken for nothing by the knight.
Heyjude32010 8 months ago
after 4. ... Qh4+ 5.Kf1 try that
Rockingyoutub 8 months ago
Against my computer, I've run into problems with the King's Gambit after the Queen moves to 4...Qe7.
Specifically speaking 1. e4...e5 2. f4...exf4 3. Ng3...g5 4. Bc4...Qe7
I have run into couple of issues with this situations because the Queen is attacking my pawn on e4. If I bring my pawn to d3, the Queen aggitates the king by putting him in check or block me from castling. Black is also able to develope their pieces better. Any help would be great. From Philly!!!
zebras2seven 8 months ago
Great video! Question - After playing the kings Gambit & offering the pawn, if the oppponent declines & instead plays the queen to H4 (placing my king in check) is it best to just block it with a pawn (white pawn to G3) or just move the king? I usually just block with the pawn but I'm not sure if that's best because I suppose it weakens my defence? I'm a beginner trying to learn the openings
covladsean 8 months ago
@covladsean if you have already moved your light squared bishop (Bc4 most likely) - it's best to move the king. When black plays Qh4+ its actually better for white as the queen is misplaced and white gains a tempo chasing it away with Nf3. Playing g3 can significantly weaken your light squares.
OnlineChessLessons 7 months ago
@OnlineChessLessons I think he means if black plays 2. ... Qh4+, in which case 3. g3 is pretty much mandatory. Sure, it creates a slight weakness on white's Kingside, but I'd take the white pieces in that position any day.
SuperMyfamily01 7 months ago
@SuperMyfamily01 lol good look i guess i went a little too deep on that one!
OnlineChessLessons 7 months ago
After Fischer's opening bishop to c4, what would his response be if the black queen checked his king on h4? Seems to me that the game would be a lot harder to win if black did play that move.
Cheers!
Vegetto19 9 months ago
"black should check with queen and make white lose castling privileges"
WRONG.
Black checks. White simply plays Kf1. If black then plays f4 to f3 white can take with queen and is positioned for a mating attack. In any case, Black queen check accomplishes little to nothing beyond exposing the black queen to attack, losing vital tempo, AND giving white even more development advantage + increased control of the center.
In a master level game, white will win to Qh3
ManonFire57 9 months ago
@12gooberboober yea but he loses ability to castle, and exposes the king quite a bit
bistnenutte 9 months ago
how come black did not check the white king in the very beginning when fisher moved his bishop?? the night was not protecting H4. wth?
bistnenutte 9 months ago
First queen H3 right away makes it so the king cant castle. Most would play that. second mistake by black was to put the knight there blocking in his own queen... knight f6 puts pressure on an undefended pawn forcing either d3 or knight c3. So many weaknesses to black. Ive never played a game where ppl actually fall into these traps.
BigGus87 10 months ago
what if after knight put to c4 then queen(black) to h4 how to block that?
KiLLeRxxBuNNy 10 months ago
If King's Gambit has a higher win% for Black than White, and Fischer only used it 8 times (at least in database, so I presume out of all his official pro-matches), then is it fair to say that this is not a recommended strategy unless you know your opponent is weak?
I'm getting the feeling that Minic Dragoljub is playing a pretty poor Black-game here.
thegreatNEb 10 months ago
ok how can it be blocked when he is in check and knight can not b lock the chack
tabidzi 11 months ago
2:40 to start the game
tabondjemac 11 months ago
I think Fisher won that game... :D
Marcello96ITA 11 months ago
it's easy to understand that the main concept is mobilizing the pieces. That's all chess is about.
damthatriver09 11 months ago
fisher may lose a rook if he plays like this ..r u sure this is fisher
hashimman 11 months ago
Question. What is the Chuck Norris opening?
rooksaiz 1 year ago 14
@rooksaiz Kxe8=))
Norbert66676667 1 year ago
@rooksaiz Kxe8=)) checkmate
Norbert66676667 1 year ago
@rooksaiz Chuck Norris' opening is : e4 -black resigns-
SFOplayer1 1 year ago 105
@rooksaiz The "I can kick your ass in one move" opening.
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TuxedoKnightChess 1 year ago
u sure love fisher dont u rob?!?!
hashimman 1 year ago
what software are you using?
danjchild 1 year ago
>>> at least i feel like i do. Openings give players a hint at the persons strategy and your just trying to familiarize yourself with their strat and possibly trump their strategy cuz you already are familar ( at least in an ideal situation being that your already skilled) and you play along and accept or decline for psychological effect perhaps. It still is ridiculous how good people are and even the computer is just insane. Its like it just analyzes pressure lines and uses that.
tnoble711 1 year ago
I'm not a skilled chess player but this accepted Gambit looks so vicious. Does anyone know a game with Fisher where someone forced a queen trade off or is that even allowed cuz of the point system? I like to trade off queens if i feel that we are even in pieces or especially if i make out another piece but most of all i like to play more linear i guess you could say. I'm learning about openings and ya know i actually got the whole thing right away :) thanks
tnoble711 1 year ago
@Simangel1307 then there is only 1 option namely 3. g3, then probably 3... fg 4. Nf3 etc
trapfman 1 year ago
@trapfman or moving your king but obviously not as good as g3 lol.
trapfman 1 year ago
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SuperKlaudio13 1 year ago
@Simangel1307 King to f1
MAJESTIcag7 1 year ago
I play the Kings gambit against Friitz 11 and move the bishop out first and I get slaughtered early in the game.
norb1937 1 year ago
I have a copy of My 60 Most Memorable Games by Bobby Fisher and I don't see him playing a kings gambit in any of them. Some one he played against played a kings gambit.
norb1937 1 year ago
I got stuck real bad... if black doesnt accept.. rather brings queen to h4 ..checking the white king.. i couldn't see ne strong line for white... King may move to e2 ..blocking white bishop development.. white may push pawn g3...but doesn't seem to strong.. ne ideas on this line?
rsharma1989 1 year ago
the kings gambit... booy... that brings back memories
GHalfa 1 year ago
5:36 Bb5+
ransman413 1 year ago
What happened at the end of the match? I'm pretty sure Fischer won, but I would have liked to seen the moves played with or without a brief commentary :P
dannyp136 1 year ago
You fail to mention that his opponent was not even a grandmaster
uselessjoe 1 year ago
After BB3 there's no reason for black to capture the pawn on E4. The problem is with that knight on E7 blocking in the bishop. Moving the knight out to that position was a bad setup.
DSXmachine 1 year ago
I never use a strategy... because if your strategy fails your fucked
gamelordjack 1 year ago
@gamelordjack
if your strategy fails its because you dont make it good enough... playing without strategy makes chess meaningless.
the kings gambit however is probably the sharpest opening out there, it relies strongly on a player's calculation. black here chose a passive continuation: 3. ... Nd7. The sharpest move would have been 3. ... Qh4+, but fischer's opponent was probably afraid to play sharply against him, and got outplayed strategically instead. check spassky's king gambit vs fischer
chrism216 1 year ago
Knight to F-3 doesn't block/stop check by Queen from H-5 to E-1 once Queen is moved to H-5 as stated at 3:06.
taylorfiveo 1 year ago 37
@taylorfiveo i think he means that he should play G1-F3 before the queen gets there
stRunF11 1 year ago
@taylorfiveo Yes it does, (and it's Queen to H-4). Knight captures the Queen when she checks white's King.
bronco8585 1 year ago
@taylorfiveo
it does stop/block a chess position when the white knight is moved to E3 only before the bishop is moved to C4. This prevents the black queen to move to H4 because the queen will get beaten by the knight.
honest mistake
ThombaArtz 1 year ago
@taylorfiveo The narrator was referring to a pre-emptive move by the knight to threaten the square which the queen would move to.
479Rod 11 months ago
@taylorfiveo
I think he ment prevents. Meaning one you got the knight F3 that queenmove is gone.
zethgb 11 months ago
@taylorfiveo
h5 to e1 rly? typos aside, knight defends the h4 square preventing the queen from moving there. not to be used in response to Qh4
holynazi 11 months ago
@taylorfiveo h5 to e1 rly? typo aside, knight defends h4, preventing the check.
holynazi 11 months ago
@taylorfiveo The Knight f-3 captures Queen from h-4
Zasssu 10 months ago
@taylorfiveo it may not stop it but would it be smart to put your queen there to be taken?
tyson0077halo 9 months ago
@taylorfiveo
u fail noobs.
he means, if u play nf3 2. , u can block the check, but he played bishop to c4.
k0v3x 9 months ago
@taylorfiveo Black must have been intimidated by Fischer and not tried the check. That move almost always leads to disaster for white
sk8sk8sk8666 8 months ago
@taylorfiveo and the other 28 here did not understand at all, it was clearly said that if kf3 was played before the bishop that means knight is already at f3 before black could play his queen, and that would stop him to make a check at h5
lawlag 7 months ago
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@taylorfiveo and the other 28 here did not understand at all, it was clearly said that if kf3 was played before the bishop that means knight is already at f3 before black could play his queen, and that would stop him to make a check at h5
lawlag 7 months ago
@taylorfiveo it was clearly said that only if kf3 was played prior to bc4 then black will not have the chance to check at h5 by queen
lawlag 7 months ago
@taylorfiveo So boring when people are commenting on something they dont have a clue about. Boring all over.
elvarg991 7 months ago
@taylorfiveo Yes, it does. The knight on F3 is attacking the H4 square. If Black tries to check, White simply captures the queen.
Myklanjlo76 6 months ago
@taylorfiveo A few things wrong:
1: h5? Did you even look at the chess board?
2: Nf3 will stop the queen from Qh4+, because the knight would capture black's queen with Nh4. Jrobi is saying that instead of moving Bc4, he could've moved Nf3. It won't physically block the queen, but it will block Qh4+.
3: Please learn to write chess moves correctly. Here's a website to get you started: michess(dot)org/scholastic/notation.shtml
chester10999 6 months ago
@chester10999 what hes saying is that black could have played Qh4+ instead of Ne7 which would have effectively forced the white king to move. Obviously however the greatest chess player of all time was aware of this but he still found it beneficial to move the white bishop prior to the g1 knight.
rfuglesang 5 months ago
@taylorfiveo what jrobi meant was (i'm sure) , if the knight is played to f3 before! the queen comes down to h5 to check, it can prevent it from coming there in the first place. otherwise, if it's played after the queen checks, "qh4, kf3, qxe1 game over. ; you would not play that move anyway so....
ferkun68 5 months ago
@taylorfiveo true but it kicks the queen out
bagpiper12345678 5 months ago
@taylorfiveo It's a Chuck Norris' move also! He can block her!!
mike09tsil 4 months ago
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taylorfiveo 1 year ago
After bishop c4, why not queen h4 check?
DSXmachine 1 year ago 2
@DSXmachine That's one of possible black continuations. White plays then Kf1, and in the next move Nf3 driving queen away. White loses the right to castle, but instead gains a tempo and additional development (Nf3).
karas89 1 year ago
@karas89 You mean KE2, right?
DSXmachine 1 year ago
@DSXmachine There's no need to block your queen on d1. As i remember Kf1 continuation is called Greco Variant. Paul Morphy played that variant vs. Alonzo Morphy in 1848. After 3. ... Qh4+ 4. Kf1, black played 4. ... Bc5. 5. d4 Bb6 6. Nf3 He7 and white clearly controls the center of the board. The next move was 7. Nc3 and white had his both knights and a bishop developed.
karas89 1 year ago
you mentioned Fishers liking of the Bishops on tap Kasparov says the Russians believe the Knights and Bishops are equal Knights better in opening Bishops in end game but Fisher always insisted the Bishops are stronger he also says they nick named him C4 he understands y but he would of nick named Fisher the White Bishop he says no 1 ever had or ever will match his use of the White Bishop
xDamianx0 1 year ago
what about e4-e5, f4-d5...??? what is whites best move from here..??
brucenunn37 1 year ago
It is too much of a gamble cause when I begin with the first steps for the openning the oppenent wants to come attacking with the Queen and bishops.
TheRapper10000 1 year ago
@freddyp91 it's a bullshit move. don't worry about it. bishop checks, then move the king. Now the black queen is stuck defending the bishop from being taken by the knight.. Patzer sees check, patzer gives check! How will black now develop his king side knight? knight f6 or e7 blocks defense of the bishop
logant44 1 year ago
why wouldnt his opponent just check with the queen on move 3? it doesnt make sense, explain
mrgoodfight14 1 year ago
what if black plays Qh4 after whites move his pawn to f4 ?
k1ra02 1 year ago
what if black answer white's 3.Bc4 with Qh4+? Is 3.Bc4 a bad move?
widowmaker23 1 year ago
so... who won?
jojomcbean 1 year ago
An isolated center pawn is to be preferred to a protected side pawn? '~'
TheOpinionatedPerson 1 year ago
You did not pronounced it right
:D
Great vids, keep it up
mudanat 1 year ago
Carlsen had great success with this opening in his latest tournament. Its nice to see its still used.
bodypowr 1 year ago
this is so awesome in so many ways..!
lllshokoboylll 1 year ago
the kings gambit it so deadly if u can't defend it
speedyweedylemon 1 year ago
thanks, good video.
RGYOGI 1 year ago
I think he lost to Borris Spassky in a king's gambit, not sure what side he was playing at the time though
thepunictrader 1 year ago
What chess program you use?
kweetvanniks 1 year ago
how make castling in this game?
tadzes 1 year ago
@tadzes i mean about casling move
tadzes 1 year ago
If the Bishop wen first Knight to F3 wont do anything... the queen goes in a black diagonal where the knight lands on a white square...but if you ment doing it before then Nevermind
TheL4stMerch 1 year ago
No wonder Fischer liked King's Gambit so much, he wasn't a draw kind of guy, it cost him the opening match against Spassky in Iceland
Ronin27x 1 year ago
w:39%, b:42%, d:19%
teaucame 1 year ago
after 2 minute you say that knight can block queen on the check line with f3, how if queen checks? f3 would still remain you checked, so did i miss something and why queen doesnt check there but plays knight to e7?
themewz 1 year ago
knight to f3 does not block the queen check wtf
ShivihS 1 year ago
@ShivihS what he ment was that if you place that knight there before the queen checks you it can block it cause you can take the queen
tomsorcer 1 year ago
@ShivihS yeah i was confused too
SockEater555 1 year ago
at 3min you said white can block a check from the black queen with knight to f3 but that would only attack the queen.. not block the check.
slynkdnb 1 year ago
I need a video on kings gambit accepted when they defend the pawn after the gambit with the g pawn followed by queen check or queen defence. My computer seems to do it all the time and it seems to be really hard to defend even with knight opening.
LOVEMCEE 1 year ago
why did black move his king side knight to e7 instead of f6 both serve the same purpose of defending the d5 square, and also knight on f6 has prevents the open f file.
boyghost47 1 year ago
I think that if knight goes to f6, then the pawn will push to e5.
After that knight will either retreat to starting position or put himself on e4 which is actually very bad for him, because if white attack it someway it will sacrifice himself or retreat while white developing.
MrKillerofkillers 1 year ago
I don't see why Black doesn't check with the queen after White pull his bishop out.
lowlypeasant 2 years ago
Black can check with the Queen, that's one of the main lines, but white eventually ends up better. White responds with 4. Kf1 Nf6 5. Nf3, etc.
pedronetomoreira 2 years ago
yeah, but instead of Nf6, white could simply return the queen to D8. Seems like it would be worth the lost move to disrupt the castling. But I know you are right, otherwise Fischer would not have done it.
lowlypeasant 2 years ago
Ok, so after for instance 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Qh4+ 4. Kf1 Nc6 5. Nf3 Qd8 6. d4, I prefer White! ;-)
pedronetomoreira 2 years ago
ok, I see it now. thanks!!
lowlypeasant 2 years ago
@lowlypeasant
well if you watched any of the greco games, you would probably understand why. its not a wise choice
JZS713 1 year ago
if black checks white then white will block the check with the pawn and queen will be forced to retreat and thus white will gain an extra move.
boyghost47 1 year ago
@boyghost47
false, black can still take the pawn with his pawn
themewz 1 year ago
ejs 18, white plays g3 then and has a extra devolpment move since black has to move his queen anway.
ThaRazor1990 2 years ago
What do you if he moves queen to H4 for 2nd move instead of eating the pawn? (im new to chess)
ejs18 2 years ago
King's Gambit is rarely played at GM level - as grandmasters are usually the most risk-averse players around. However, it does have it's exponents, such as Morozevich, Thomas Johansson, Victor Korchnoi, and Spassky. It is much more popular at club level and in internet blitz.
I can recommend the King's Gambit as an opening for agressive players. Also, many of the arising endgames are favorable for White - due to greater center control - so that is not too much to worry.
whisperwaIk 2 years ago
From Black's point of view, he will usually try to blunt the bishop with a combination of Nf6, c6, and d5. If White plays Nc3, Bb4 pinning the knight with possible doubled pawns, is typical.
At most levels Black seldom tries too hard to hold his extra pawn. As I have said moves such as g5 or Nh5 are weakening, and so Black usually wants equal play rather than "refutation." Meanwhile White usually sacrifices his pawns quite aggressively - he wants to attack.
whisperwaIk 2 years ago
From White's point of view, the early Bc4 creates opportunities, especially the bishop sac Bxf7+. For example after the line 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Bc5?! 4. Bxf7+! Kxf7 5. Qh5+ Ke8 6. Qxc5 - White has regained his piece and Black's king is no longer castling.
Another example of f7 vulnerability is 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Be7?! 4. Qh5 - the White pieces threaten to take on f7. This line is equal but gives excellent play for White.
whisperwaIk 2 years ago
Therefore the more dynamic way to play the King's Gambit is 3. Bc4 - the King's Bishop Gambit. White prepares to answer Qh4+ with Kf1! getting a secure position WITHOUT CASTLING. The Black queen is vulnerable on h4 to counterattack, i.e. Nf3. And the king's quite safe on f1, believe it or not!
It is generally agreed among strong players that Qh4+ is in fact rather lousy for Black. There are some fine Grandmaster wins in this line for White in the modern era.
whisperwaIk 2 years ago
The ancient way of handling the King's Gambit is 3. Nf3, or the King's Knight Gambit. This move carries with it the idea of blocking Qh4, but unfortunately gives Black a potential target with g5-g4. For example, the "Fischer Defence" is1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d6!? 4. d4 g5 5. h4 g4!! 6. Ng1 (the knight has nowhere else to go). Lines such as these are why the King's Knight Gambit is not too popular anymore - Black just has space and an extra pawn. They are a little overextended, but its OK.
whisperwaIk 2 years ago
Now the third point. The lost pawn isn't actually too secure on f4 - White can usually re-capture it with a d4 thrust, activating the bishop on c1. For Black to stubbornly keep his pawn, he must play a weakening move such as g4, which opens his kingside up to counterplay. Otherwise he has to put a knight on h5 - the knight wastes time to get to h5, and isn't too secure there either. Therefore Black usually doesn't try to hard to keep his pawn, but capitalizes on his "attacking" chances.
whisperwaIk 2 years ago
The second point is the open f-file - it create opportunity for both sides. White will usually want his rook on f1, targeting Black's f7, but Black is also given a route (Qh4+) to White's King. This is the main reason why play in the King's Gambit is so violent. Both players want to capitalize on their attacking opportunities.
whisperwaIk 2 years ago
The point of the gambit is POSITIONAL - White diverts the Black e-pawn so that he can gain the option of d4, occupying the center. Therefore it isn't just simply about losing a pawn for nothing - White has compensation, and can play to win.
whisperwaIk 2 years ago
For all the guys scratching their heads here, I think it's time you've heard from somebody who actually plays the King's Gambit. I use the King's Gambit a lot in online chess, and it is indeed 'powderful' enough to use at any level of chess.
The King's Gambit is in fact a very old opening, ancient 100-year plus, and to this day no "refutation" exists, despite Fischer claiming to have done so. Anand was beaten as recently as 1995 in the King's Gambit.
whisperwaIk 2 years ago
if black plays Qh4 at the earliest stage, it is not a major threat, coz white simply carry on developing by Nf3
Hussar571 2 years ago
I,ve been seeing that opening and did not know the name for awhile ! Looks like a great opening/game liked everything except leaving the king exposed for blacks queen to put whites king in check by not moving whites knight out b 4 moving whites bishop !!
coolrusst 2 years ago
Then you just kick the queen back with P-F3.
goodderf 2 years ago
amaizing!! can you plz tell me wat that software is??? i want to download it... it looks handy... gret vidos!!!
narutoandpokefan 2 years ago
i think is chessbase !
Jahnile03 2 years ago
@Jahnile03 ill see...thx
narutoandpokefan 2 years ago
I luv 2 play chess!
DeathAngel77611 2 years ago 13
@DeathAngel77611 And I love orthography...
Leutwein 1 year ago
hi jrobi! i enjoied some of ur chess-vids and i want to thank u for the instructive input.its nicer to see the pieces movin'animated than read the moves in a book what i did the last 20 years..;-) i think bobby was the best player ever seen in chess, though his opening repertoire was predictable before 1972.1) E4 "best by test" keep workin'+thx for the vids!
brainpiercer1 2 years ago
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jro....bitches
mdoub 2 years ago
I just played an online match with King's Gambit accepted as Black. And I was about to win, but then it disconnected for someone reason and they gave me a loss. I had beautifully stamped out his counterplay and was about to enter the end game up material.
ihateuutube 2 years ago
Knight to F3 doesnt block the queen by the way.
liamdhardy 2 years ago
It does if you play it before the bishop.
DefenceSpeech 2 years ago
Yes it stops it, because if black makes the move Qh4, the queen would just hang to the knight...
DoinaUta 2 years ago
@DoinaUta
you should check this video again. Fiscer played Bc4 before opening knight so it is possible to play Qh4+, in which case you must move the king (Kf1 is the best move there). Personally i like that move because white can't castle anymore!
WizlBs 2 years ago
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risi48 2 years ago
yea but in that article FIscher only analyzed the King's Knight Gambit line
protowarrior 2 years ago
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protowarrior 2 years ago
what if: ...Be7 ...Bh4+
qwuioccmqwwwwwwwwwah 2 years ago
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liamdhardy 2 years ago
I recently drew a game from the kings gambit in 89 moves. (I had a queen vs my opponents rook and 2 pawn)
The70656 2 years ago
greatest chess teacher on youtube
lostidproductions 2 years ago 2
i played the King's Gambit in the very first rated game i won. That brings back memories
BDMchess 2 years ago 4
@BDMchess hehe, how impressive that is is very dependent on how strong your opponent was :p
wiiiissam 1 year ago
jrobi, i have a question, what is i play the kings gambit, but instead of taking the gambit, they play and imidiate qH4+, then we play G3 to block, then black plays Qe7, i have alto of trouble with this line, and i was wondering if you could help me
mahalo,
tave
tave2344 2 years ago
that's where the line ends as far as I know for that variation. When I play as white vs that, I usualy develope my white bischop to c4. But that's my style...
subatom101 2 years ago
i cn tell you that that only works if you do the bishub first so like fischer played it many will attack with the queen so what fischer did then was just let the king go 2 f1 that why it doesnt score so high win % so thats why most players do th knight to f3 first so the queen cant strike with a check
hamsturinn 2 years ago
Qh4+ check is not a good move at all for black. Because white can get into the Greco variation with Bishops Gambit, and if you know how to play it Black is going to be in a lot of trouble. for example: Qh4+ . Kf1. Bc5. d4. Bb6. Nf3. now the Queen has to move which favors white here in anyway, and there are a lot of traps in this position. I hope I can show you sometime in a video or smthing.
Shoarmaboer20 2 years ago
I don't think 3. Qh4+ is as bad as some say. I usually do quite well after 3. Bc4 Qh4+!? 4. Kf1 (4. g3?! fxg3 isn't losing, but black can build up a nasty attack. g2+ is a threat (Nc3 would lose because 5. Nc3?? g2+! 6. Nxh4 gxh1=Q drops a rook) Nc6 [Boden Defense, C33] with ideas of Bc5, and black gets attacking chances. Sharp stuff. And I do well in sharp games. Dessan01, I agree development can be stifled with Nc3, but the queen can jump over to c5 with attacking chances on White's king.
Seananananan 2 years ago
You don't really need to castle in KGA. Fast development is the name of the game.
qazqazdabest 2 years ago
Hey Jrobi. I like your videos. Your explanation is clear (Y). But 1 Question. after Bishop to c4. if black now comes down with the queen en give check on h4 then white's king has to move to f1. Doesnt this give black a better position? Because white can't castle anymore and it's rook is going to have a hard time coming out.
Is there any game where Fischer played such a kind of match? He probably did
Shoarmaboer20 2 years ago
@6:28 Black is better off with Bg4 threatening d4 pawn
elpaisitadeoro 2 years ago
@5:02, why would the bishop capture the pawn and lose a piece?
Bb5+ and then d4
elpaisitadeoro 2 years ago
Hello Jrobi, Perhaps you can help. I often play the Kings Gambit and during the Kings Gambit accepted lines. I Play Knight to F3 to prevent the impending queen check, my opponents often respond with bishop to E7 creating a double attack on the H4 square. What is an effective move to use in this situation? I am often faced with the having the choice of moving my king thus preventing castling or weakening up my king side pawn structure.
Thanks
pat10034 2 years ago
H4 and G3 are the only two moves that can actually prevent the impending disaster and still allow for a castle. Of course this is sacrifising another pawn and it tells your opponent that you intend to castle queen's side. If you don't make one of these two moves you will be unable to castle at all since they will force the king to move but you are not yet dead in the water.
Lystanl 2 years ago
Yeah castling isn't really that important in the king's gambit line. Tucking the king away on F1 is quite common in a lot of games in this opening.
jrobichess 2 years ago
@jrobichess
Which of the gambits is your favorite. Is it this one?
Darkblaze10k 1 year ago
I think a lot of people (including Jrobi, who never seems that keen to go into move orders and specifics!) are missing the point in this opening - the Qh4 check is one of blacks least dangerous ideas - scroll down into my comments below for examples.
And pat10034 youre playing the busted Knights gambit there, dont worry about not been able to castle, play 3.Bc4!
Dessan01 2 years ago
If you, after the opponent moves to e7, move the pawn to H4, you've created a double defence on that square by the rook and the knight. Often works for me. Or just castle.
ellitho 2 years ago
Hi Jrobi
Theres no doubt that 3.Bc4 (the Bishops Gambit) is a much sharper than 3.Nf3 (the Knights Gambit) which has pretty much been busted by computers now any modern book on the KGA recommends 3.Bc4. I notice in the video you say the Qh4 check can be blocked by Nf3 thats not true if Black plays it straight after 3.Bc4 White then has to play Kf1 and cant castle anymore.
Dessan01 2 years ago 2
However this is not a big deal for White, in fact when I play the KG I always hope that Black goes for the check - because not only does he end up behind on development he will be troubled by the artificial position of his Queen for the rest of the game. Moves like Nc3 will eventually come, gaining tempo, and white can take the centre with d4 incidentally uncovering the dark squared Bishop on the weak pawn at f4.
Dessan01 2 years ago
It has to be said that Fischer only ever used the KG against much weaker players than himself. Fischer actually hated the KG ever since Spassky hammered him with it in 1960 the young Fischer left in tears, he went home and began a detailed study of playing the Kings Knights Gambit from the Black side of the board. He came up with the Fischer defence (3...d6) and arrogantly announced a year later that this move refuted the whole opening a questionable statement!
Dessan01 2 years ago