so basically theres weaks, and strongs and we dont listen to retarded bums. also women have inferior neurology, or at least nonattentive neurology or maybe more retentive by being predominant and subtle or how about its true that its a complex situation but we must listen to the retarded bum or the bimbo.
Sounds like a racist concept designed to privilege people seen by the logic of European/American institutions to be distant. These kinds of materialist terms are bullshit. Only if subaltern is determined by alienation at level of being (outside political geographic, etc, criteria) can it be valid. This however is impossible (yet it is better then the colonial violence of the disgusting Enlightenment discourse: a repeat of Inquisition).
I really admire her Derridean deconstruction, and her concern for the way in which postcolonial studies ironically re inscribe, co-opt and rehearse neocolonial imperatives of political domination, economic exploitation and cultural erasure (the very imperatives they are trying to dismantle). BUT. I'm from Calcutta, and I can tell you for one that her critics are correct when they say that Spivak wouldn't even recognize a subaltern if she saw one. The question then is: Can the subaltern spivak?
@BhavikaSicka1610 ur one of those copyright infringers (i.e. an intellectual robbers) who want to look smart using others' words. cite ur effing sources!
Aside from the fact that she has a PhD and written more papers than you have words in your vocabulary, going by your flawless logic she must still be smarter than you, since you probably don’t even know what Literature, English, Math or Astronomy even are. Don’t get all pissy just because you don’t understand ‘trajectory’, ‘subaltern’ and ‘work’—either look them up in the dictionary or close the page and watch TMZ or something.
Is there a way to get the transcription of this conference? I´m trying to subtitle it to spanish, but it´s very difficult with only hearing it (i´m a native spanish speaker)
I'm very green re Subaltern studies - I'm constantly coming across the word 'Subject' for instance in the phrase 'Subject formation exceeds the borders of the intending Subect'. What is meant exactly by the word subject? Very basically I understand it to be an ideological group/political entity that can influence/be influenced? I'd really really appreciate help on this.
Quite silly, some of the questions and their framing. Listening to the guy who uses "depasse" and the gal who uses "resentement" are so, so "comment dire," pretentious, circuitous, unimaginative. What a difference when you then hear Spivak. Spivak shows off dullness of mind with panache.
I've admired her work, but this talk is PURE torture . . . really, it could replace 24/7 blasting heavy metal music in the most notorious dungeons in the world . . .
a good piece indeed! a metonymised subaltern family gathering. narcissistic celebration of spivak's synecdochised self inhabited by to-and-fro of (re)new(able) subalterns before a bunch of idolaters hailing from various subaltern nooks. Thanks UCtelevision for posting it!
What would not be a boring talk, Gayatri, would be a focus on the problematic Sub(Pop)altern(ative rock) subject position formation. Hey, has anyone else here been denied access to the lines of social mobility? I have, dudes, and I'm down about it, but I'll see brighter days, I guess. I reckon things'll improve once I've metonymised meself, so that I can symbolically claim, as a fractured part of it, the abstract whole of the concept of the State. Bengali middle class.
I propose this answer to the knotty linguistic bind that Derrida left us with. We simply get the firm who produced the StableTable to manufacture the word StableTable, and, by extension, all the other words that have ever been, are currently in use, or ever will be invented. Do YOU agree with this assertion, dude? If not, why not. If you DO agree with this assertion, don't type anything, and I'll take that to mean that you agree with me.
Your theoretico-hubristic antiindocentricity exposes what we always and already know: "reproductive heteronormativity [is] the broadest global institution".
I've told you time and time again that affirming your own subalterity is impossible. But given your assertion (at a recent fraternity kegger) that diacritical space is euclidean, I'm not surprised.
tough in the sense that a boys club academic life must've been demanding, to say the least. & her anecdotes in this talk don't sound like it's been a walk in the park...
i meant to address hectar, joe, rebel and co., but the reply thread malfunctioned, it seems. &, i may have unintentionally insulted hyenas.
in any case, i'm hardly her disciple, but leave her alone already. i'll give you three reasons - 1) judging from some of these comments, it's likely she's better read than most of you, in the sense that y'all are not presenting compelling objections. 2) cheap shots say more about you than her. 3) i think she's had it tough.
The Goddess of blowhards? I think that's one of the better names for Spivak I've heard. She's a windbag for sure. Yet, while I'd prefer to hear almost every one of my colleagues present simple, planned speeches not to exceed 20 minutes, those papers would still be dull as dishwater. And while Spivak may be confused and messy, she's still much more interesting than any of the conference presentations you'll attend.
They probably haven´t heard about multidimensional awareness so they use terms like ´subalterns´, I´ve heard about them here at the College where I do my studies,
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We're planning to open an indian restaurant called 'Can The Subaltern Eat' with dishes named after prominent post colonial theorists. What dish should this bitch be?
Spivak is the sort of academic no normally intelligent person can be expected to take seriously. Not once does she cite a scholarly evidence. Her theory claims to be sociological/historical and yet she only makes unsupported and statistically unverifiable statements. She claims to 'be a literary person' and literature is conspicuous in its absence throughout her discourse. So we are left with a jargon that is designed to obscure the fact that she has nothing worthwhile to say. Academic fraud.
I think that Spivak is at a point where she can effectually cite herself on the issue of Post-Colonial Theory. As to her being an intellectual fraud, you do realize that she was the first person to translate "Of Grammatology" into English. Oh, and that most of her lecture is based on derridian concepts that "no normally intelligent person" would immediately recognize. Because, you know, expecting some base-level understanding of the ideas behind the lecture would be just ridiculous.
Since when did Derrida become an authority on "subaltern studies"? One can use his approach (against which most post 1970 non-US academics have their reservations) but he cannot be cited to support factual issues (if Derrida knew "facts" mattered in the first place). One can, for eg., indulge in a Marxist-style critique of folk dance, but that doesn't mean one can cite Marx as an authority on dance. Also, I have nothing against substance (Hegel's great) only against the pretence to substance.
He wasn't but, the connection becomes obvious when one looks to the binary opposites of centre and margin. What you call jargon is a language specific to its function.
You're assumptions are based on a fairly flawed and mistaken yet common assumption of deconstruction and what Derrida says.
Saying that language is unstable is not the same thing as saying there are no facts or that truth doesn't exist.
Read the volume "Negotiations" and you will realize that Derrida radical thought was still very much concerned with facts and truth, though not in the ways you probably would expect it to be.
Ah, time to seek sweet, sweet redress. Derrida does indeed claim that language is unstable, but consider this example, dude. The veritable StableTable(TM) is stable in the most concrete sense, and yet, for Derrida, the sign (StableTable(TM)) is itself manifestly unstable. It's a good thing for the many loyal patrons of said StableTable that it's not as good as its word, Derrididean-wise. Have YOU ever bought a StableTable, dude? Check and see if I'm not right. joetyer out.
I think it's interesting that speakers who talks about the world as if their experience of it was the same as all of us, without making any reference to anyone else's work, will be acceptable to those who find Spivak's heavily citational style "egoistic"because she references her own work and the debates she's active in. This talk is probably tricky for anyone who hasn't read the works being referenced, but is a great gift for those of us tracking the trajectory of her work.
yeah she's good. I like her way of analysis. She is always in the situation of having to prosecute herself against clichés. She always puts herself into the discussion, she is always participating.
i appreciate her standpoints about Colonialism. But my question is, why she adopts her White husband's title 'Spivak'??
Such a confusion!
AGNISHIKHA100 1 week ago
a longstanding dream of mine starting to be realized (wow)!
Skylishque 2 months ago
@ewanthesis Thank you, thank you, thank you.
supersamzman1 2 months ago
so basically theres weaks, and strongs and we dont listen to retarded bums. also women have inferior neurology, or at least nonattentive neurology or maybe more retentive by being predominant and subtle or how about its true that its a complex situation but we must listen to the retarded bum or the bimbo.
gen6k 4 months ago
Sounds like a racist concept designed to privilege people seen by the logic of European/American institutions to be distant. These kinds of materialist terms are bullshit. Only if subaltern is determined by alienation at level of being (outside political geographic, etc, criteria) can it be valid. This however is impossible (yet it is better then the colonial violence of the disgusting Enlightenment discourse: a repeat of Inquisition).
ThewildRageofGordon 9 months ago
I really admire her Derridean deconstruction, and her concern for the way in which postcolonial studies ironically re inscribe, co-opt and rehearse neocolonial imperatives of political domination, economic exploitation and cultural erasure (the very imperatives they are trying to dismantle). BUT. I'm from Calcutta, and I can tell you for one that her critics are correct when they say that Spivak wouldn't even recognize a subaltern if she saw one. The question then is: Can the subaltern spivak?
BhavikaSicka1610 9 months ago 4
@BhavikaSicka1610 ur one of those copyright infringers (i.e. an intellectual robbers) who want to look smart using others' words. cite ur effing sources!
salmajazz 1 week ago
It is told that Napolean's hemorrhoids were his undoing at battle.
How unfair.
Did Amazons not battle when their menstrual cycles kicked in? War would be so the different game in a more maternalistic society.
or maybe not
charvesa 9 months ago
she looks like a ompa lompa.
Rut267 11 months ago
@Rut267
ompa lompa dip-perdi-do I think your ignorant do-pa-di do
Auz18 8 months ago
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aajoshi1 1 year ago
@aajoshi1 Hey genius,
Aside from the fact that she has a PhD and written more papers than you have words in your vocabulary, going by your flawless logic she must still be smarter than you, since you probably don’t even know what Literature, English, Math or Astronomy even are. Don’t get all pissy just because you don’t understand ‘trajectory’, ‘subaltern’ and ‘work’—either look them up in the dictionary or close the page and watch TMZ or something.
starzrbrite 1 year ago 5
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aajoshi1 1 year ago
Is there a way to get the transcription of this conference? I´m trying to subtitle it to spanish, but it´s very difficult with only hearing it (i´m a native spanish speaker)
elroquero99 1 year ago
I'm very green re Subaltern studies - I'm constantly coming across the word 'Subject' for instance in the phrase 'Subject formation exceeds the borders of the intending Subect'. What is meant exactly by the word subject? Very basically I understand it to be an ideological group/political entity that can influence/be influenced? I'd really really appreciate help on this.
MrSpanky87 1 year ago
bengali on platform
cuddlesducks 1 year ago
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stupid indian bitch. No one cares what indian academics think. FUCKING MENTAL MASTERBATORS.
LongliveSnak2e 1 year ago
excellent.... Gayathri...at her best...
tvmdevi99999 1 year ago
Quite silly, some of the questions and their framing. Listening to the guy who uses "depasse" and the gal who uses "resentement" are so, so "comment dire," pretentious, circuitous, unimaginative. What a difference when you then hear Spivak. Spivak shows off dullness of mind with panache.
aimeeplltr 1 year ago 2
She's actually fabulous and right on target--meteoric and real! She dwarfs Bhabha and Said.
aimeeplltr 1 year ago
I nearly caught fire, that was so dry!
beavorpigs 1 year ago
A poor first year here. I think I understand the video, but not your comments. Does this mean:
a) My humour chip is faulty.
b) I don't understand the talk.
or c) You're talking about something completely different?
shackleton12 2 years ago
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I've admired her work, but this talk is PURE torture . . . really, it could replace 24/7 blasting heavy metal music in the most notorious dungeons in the world . . .
bdausername 2 years ago 2
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bdausername 2 years ago
It seems to me that she is NOT suffering from low self-esteem.
BahmanG 2 years ago
a good piece indeed! a metonymised subaltern family gathering. narcissistic celebration of spivak's synecdochised self inhabited by to-and-fro of (re)new(able) subalterns before a bunch of idolaters hailing from various subaltern nooks. Thanks UCtelevision for posting it!
thyangarey 2 years ago 6
'Twas the Night before Christmas,
And all through the House,
Not a Creature was stirring,
Not even a Subaltern.
She was a shy little thing, quiet as a subaltern.
If youze don't all fuckin be as audible as subalterns and get ter fuckin' sleep, I'll smash yers!
Now, those efforts were sub-par, and even though sub-prime mortgages are here, I try not to let that subalter me in any fundamental way.
Now, the audio preview function usually doesn't lie, but I'll post anyway.
joetyer 2 years ago 2
What would not be a boring talk, Gayatri, would be a focus on the problematic Sub(Pop)altern(ative rock) subject position formation. Hey, has anyone else here been denied access to the lines of social mobility? I have, dudes, and I'm down about it, but I'll see brighter days, I guess. I reckon things'll improve once I've metonymised meself, so that I can symbolically claim, as a fractured part of it, the abstract whole of the concept of the State. Bengali middle class.
joetyer 2 years ago 6
I propose this answer to the knotty linguistic bind that Derrida left us with. We simply get the firm who produced the StableTable to manufacture the word StableTable, and, by extension, all the other words that have ever been, are currently in use, or ever will be invented. Do YOU agree with this assertion, dude? If not, why not. If you DO agree with this assertion, don't type anything, and I'll take that to mean that you agree with me.
joetyer 2 years ago 9
Your theoretico-hubristic antiindocentricity exposes what we always and already know: "reproductive heteronormativity [is] the broadest global institution".
GristleTit 2 years ago 10
Fool. I have video evidence that proves that what I actually said was 'heterovisual case is DUDEclidean
joetyer 2 years ago 7
I've told you time and time again that affirming your own subalterity is impossible. But given your assertion (at a recent fraternity kegger) that diacritical space is euclidean, I'm not surprised.
GristleTit 2 years ago 5
Listen and learn joetyer.
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tapiwamaro 2 years ago
tough in the sense that a boys club academic life must've been demanding, to say the least. & her anecdotes in this talk don't sound like it's been a walk in the park...
moodrush 2 years ago
i meant to address hectar, joe, rebel and co., but the reply thread malfunctioned, it seems. &, i may have unintentionally insulted hyenas.
in any case, i'm hardly her disciple, but leave her alone already. i'll give you three reasons - 1) judging from some of these comments, it's likely she's better read than most of you, in the sense that y'all are not presenting compelling objections. 2) cheap shots say more about you than her. 3) i think she's had it tough.
tbc if i have time...
moodrush 2 years ago 3
The Goddess of blowhards? I think that's one of the better names for Spivak I've heard. She's a windbag for sure. Yet, while I'd prefer to hear almost every one of my colleagues present simple, planned speeches not to exceed 20 minutes, those papers would still be dull as dishwater. And while Spivak may be confused and messy, she's still much more interesting than any of the conference presentations you'll attend.
Chrlsrider 2 years ago
They probably haven´t heard about multidimensional awareness so they use terms like ´subalterns´, I´ve heard about them here at the College where I do my studies,
Thingvellir,
Yatukih001 2 years ago
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We're planning to open an indian restaurant called 'Can The Subaltern Eat' with dishes named after prominent post colonial theorists. What dish should this bitch be?
HectarCrawford 2 years ago
alu pronta
Rebellious108 2 years ago
were you raised by hyenas?
moodrush 2 years ago
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Who is this fucking bitch anyway? Can the subaltern tongue my plums, more like.
joetyer 3 years ago
Go jump in a meatgrinder, buddy. But first call me; I want to watch.
amawest 2 years ago 5
what does she says at min 0:13:30- 0:12:48... Bhabha ?? culture ??? governance...??
que dice en min 0:13:30- 0:12:48
raynaharris 3 years ago
the godess of blowhards...
f2509p 3 years ago
espero que alguna vez venga a México... espero que podamos escucharla alguna vez y conosca nuestra subalternidad subversiva!!!
wasona85 3 years ago
No solo es genial, tiene una lucides increible...quizas un día... quizas podamos traerla a Mérida en México
wasona85 3 years ago
Lousy and boring.
anindo56 3 years ago
very nice,Gayatri Spivak smart
gnanes2 3 years ago
Spivak is the sort of academic no normally intelligent person can be expected to take seriously. Not once does she cite a scholarly evidence. Her theory claims to be sociological/historical and yet she only makes unsupported and statistically unverifiable statements. She claims to 'be a literary person' and literature is conspicuous in its absence throughout her discourse. So we are left with a jargon that is designed to obscure the fact that she has nothing worthwhile to say. Academic fraud.
higher7000 3 years ago
I think that Spivak is at a point where she can effectually cite herself on the issue of Post-Colonial Theory. As to her being an intellectual fraud, you do realize that she was the first person to translate "Of Grammatology" into English. Oh, and that most of her lecture is based on derridian concepts that "no normally intelligent person" would immediately recognize. Because, you know, expecting some base-level understanding of the ideas behind the lecture would be just ridiculous.
Iamnotasuit 3 years ago
Since when did Derrida become an authority on "subaltern studies"? One can use his approach (against which most post 1970 non-US academics have their reservations) but he cannot be cited to support factual issues (if Derrida knew "facts" mattered in the first place). One can, for eg., indulge in a Marxist-style critique of folk dance, but that doesn't mean one can cite Marx as an authority on dance. Also, I have nothing against substance (Hegel's great) only against the pretence to substance.
higher7000 3 years ago
He wasn't but, the connection becomes obvious when one looks to the binary opposites of centre and margin. What you call jargon is a language specific to its function.
randylahey123 3 years ago
You're assumptions are based on a fairly flawed and mistaken yet common assumption of deconstruction and what Derrida says.
Saying that language is unstable is not the same thing as saying there are no facts or that truth doesn't exist.
Read the volume "Negotiations" and you will realize that Derrida radical thought was still very much concerned with facts and truth, though not in the ways you probably would expect it to be.
cvvemuri 3 years ago
That is an incidental remark; not the main argument I'm making.
higher7000 3 years ago
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Ah, time to seek sweet, sweet redress. Derrida does indeed claim that language is unstable, but consider this example, dude. The veritable StableTable(TM) is stable in the most concrete sense, and yet, for Derrida, the sign (StableTable(TM)) is itself manifestly unstable. It's a good thing for the many loyal patrons of said StableTable that it's not as good as its word, Derrididean-wise. Have YOU ever bought a StableTable, dude? Check and see if I'm not right. joetyer out.
joetyer 2 years ago 8
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Shut the fuck up gaylord
HectarCrawford 3 years ago
very helpful
abiehakhawaja 3 years ago
Thanks for this-it is really useful for my essay.
rubyredshoes77 3 years ago
I think it's interesting that speakers who talks about the world as if their experience of it was the same as all of us, without making any reference to anyone else's work, will be acceptable to those who find Spivak's heavily citational style "egoistic"because she references her own work and the debates she's active in. This talk is probably tricky for anyone who hasn't read the works being referenced, but is a great gift for those of us tracking the trajectory of her work.
djbutt63 3 years ago 3
Thanks UCtelevision for posting! Do you know if this lecture was published anywhere?
Phoenixbird27 3 years ago
Is she an egoist?
sann2338 3 years ago
Thank you for this video.
gc65531941 3 years ago
thanks for posting this!
HJNitu 3 years ago
please do not compare her with arundhati roy. roy is fluff.
ninadism 3 years ago
I concur--Roy can no way be compared to Spivak. The latter is just brilliant.
farscape2070 3 years ago
She and Arundhati Roy are two of my favorites.
msumedanthro 3 years ago
yeah she's good. I like her way of analysis. She is always in the situation of having to prosecute herself against clichés. She always puts herself into the discussion, she is always participating.
anothersunsetfalls 3 years ago 2