What the hell is up with this republican war on women? Punishing them for miscarriages? It must really be her fault. She must be guilty for something that is totally natural. Do they think that women miscarry on purpose? They're adding insult to injury by passing these stupid ass laws.
@AsamiFujihara23 I agree, miscarriages are something that is extremely tough on a lot of women it happens to, thus punishing them for it only makes what is hard enough on them already even worse.
Sign... life in jail for having a miscarriage, those crazy Saudis never cease to amaz.....WTF this was in the USA? America, are you still a democracy?
In the Mississippi case, she was accused not just of murder, but of depraved heart murder, which carries a mandatory life sentence.
And now, because that's not enough, there is an initiative on the ballot to define life at starting at conception. It's actually on the ballot and, according to polls, could pass with 70% of the vote.
As a woman (and mother) who lives in Mississippi, this is terrifying to me.
It's not at all fair to punish women this way without viewing their backgrounds. What if they decided to keep the baby, but he/she died and it wasn't even her fault? It's true that we should take care of our babies, but most times it is not the women's fault. There's usually a pair to make a baby and it's a complete outrage for a woman to take the heat for something she shared a responsibility with.
America has more of its own people locked up than any other country and the government wants even more of us behind bars for BS crimes. Why? Because America's prison system operates like a business. Prisons get $50,000 per year per inmate and get to use their inmates as slave labor at the same time. Do your research people. At this rate, we may not have the Internet for much longer.
Just imagine: if you're a woman, one day you could be behind bars or put to death for falling down the stairs. And if you're a man, just imagine: one day, the wife you love more than anything could be taken away from you forever because she lost a baby that you two made together.
@Plato86 Ok, so let's say that Grandpa is a smoker. And he smokes around his daughter while she is pregnant. The smoke provokes a severe asthma attack and during the treatment of that she miscarries and loses the baby. Should we lock up Grandpa for unborn child endangerment or should we lock up the daughter for putting the life of her unborn child at risk since she knew her Dad was a smoker? What is barbaric is trying to control women's lives from birth to death. Where do you draw the line?
In that scenario I would say that the causal link between the woman's behavior and the miscarriage is broken by the intervening action of the grandfather. Again these laws are specifically designed to punish mothers who intentionally take drugs while they are pregnant or who engage in activity that is so extremely reckless that they had to have known it would lead to miscarriage. The line is where the woman's action would have lasting effects on the unborn. In favor of crackbabies?
Wow. This is the most hyperbolic I've seen TYT, especially Ana, in some time. It's fine to disagree with a specific policy or case but to then stretch it and say that we have a police state or dictatorship or say things like "What's happening to this country" is fucking ridiculous. You're stretching a specific case to fit you're narrow worldview. It's sad that a show I once loved is stooping to such mouth-foaming antics.
The article in the guardian is incomplete - what evidence was presented to support the allegations? An autopsy would determine the cause of the miscarriage or stillbirth. People who abuse alcohol or drugs are responsible for the harm that they do - if a drunk driver killed someone, including an unborn child, they'd be criminal responsible. It wouldn't be "depraved-heart murder" but it would be a crime.
@omarascha this report did not say she was doing it while pregnant, its just that she had a history of cocain use, not that she was doing it WHILE pregnant, not that doing cocaine while pregnant would cause a miscarraige anyway, maybe if she did an insane amount of it, but this was not the case. its seems to me you do not have a very healthy view of women
@phoboskitty Its not that i dont have a healthy view of women. I just am disgusted by the ones that choose to have a child and then abuse their bodies while pregnant.
The majority of miscarriages have nothing to do with substance or bodily abuse.
The woman in question did not do cocaine while pregnant. There is no evidence that it was even relevant to the miscarriage.
Furthermore, those who take cocaine are usually addicted to it. Women who become pregnant are not always pregnant by their choice--they may not even have consented to the sex. Several may not know that they even are pregnant.
Hearing about stuff like this kinda makes me wonder if we as a species are worth saving, but to me the ultimate irony is that the people passing these laws are the same ones trying to ban "sharia law" not realizing or caring that they are passing laws which are fundamentally the same in nature, which remove all rights from women and lower them to noting more that expendable property. Very disturbing indeed
MastermindX I laughed at your comment but I see how the right nutty wingers can use that logic to further their ideology. It's not far-fetched if they are go
This makes me sick the American government doesn't have 1oz of any morals or standards. Anything that doesn't put money in their pockets is against the law. Its iron clad. America is NOT a free country. Our government is a circus full of clowns. I feel sorry and afraid for our future. Primitive and backwards its becoming.
Yep, keeping tabs on pregnant women DOES AMOUNT TO BIG GOVERNMENT! That is the reason I roll my eyes whenever the conservatives talk about small government. Trying to legislate a woman's uterus is way bigger government than I ever wanted.
@TerminalRhinoVirus And how did you discover that? Did you go to a church and do a survey? If you did, which church? What part of the world? Or are you just repeating the rhetoric that some high-and-mighty priest (or oh hell, Leviticus) spewed once, assuming everyone who follows religion bought into the idiotic prattle?
Please do not speak for a whole people as though we are hive-minded. You are welcome to dislike us, but to generalize anyone as you have done is very crude.
This is the same thing as why we don't want public health care, because if you are sick it's probably your fault because you didn't pray enough or because your gay lifestyle or whatever other bullshit reason, so I shouldn't pay for it.
The thing is, how long a jail sentence would a man serve if he causes a miscarriage through physical abuse? I doubt what that woman is facing for something that isn't even her damn fault.
What a load of fucking idiots. Miscarriage is a natural, heart-breaking event that very often happens to innocent women and their families. Can that crowd of pricks not imagine what it feels like to have your child die inside of them through no fault of their own, with nothing they can do about it? C'mon America, sort it out, this is sick.
This is disgusting, absolutely sexist, nonsensical and disgusting. Are women just walking wombs to these people, nothing more than baby machines? At the rate things are going, I bet they're gonna make birth control illegal, too, or getting you're tubes tied :/
So what's next? Any woman that has a period is gonna be locked up too? What hte fuck is wrogn with you people! That's fuckgin SICK! A miscarriage is already a very tragic thing, with some woman NEVER recovering from the emotional impact of it, and now they are gonna be sent to jail too? fuck you you america! FUCK YOU!!!
Why anyone with full use of a brain voluntarily would want to live in a country so fucked up is beyond me. It is officially.. Americans are insane. If you are a woman. Between 13 and 45. GET THE FUCK OUT BEFORE IT'S TO LATE.
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rofl, i like how TYT uses this as an opportunity to generalize and demonize those on the right. im a libertarian and i find this just as heinous as they do. TYT will cross any line to spread ther liberal agenda, nomatter how untrue it is.
so every time a male bodied person jacks off are they going to consider it "child abandonment"? WTF! The body gets rid of un-viable fetus's, it's natural, it helps keep the gene pool healthy!
@RavenBlaze I do agree with you, but the jacking off analogy doesn't work. Sperm only have half a genome (Chromosomes 1n) and if you were going to use that as the analogy then it would be the same as when a woman has her period and discards an egg.
My sister had a miscarriage last year. It was really hard on her, because she really wants to have children. But in the eyes of the "pro-life" crowd, she's a murderer who killed her baby so she could have sex without consequence and deserved to be thrown in jail. Screw you, conservatives. Screw you forever.
"South Carolina was one of the first states to introduce such a foetal homicide law. National Advocates for Pregnant Women has found only one case of a South Carolina man who assaulted a pregnant woman having been charged under its terms, and his conviction was eventually overturned. Yet the group estimates there have been up to 300 women arrested for their actions during pregnancy."
Despicable. I'm sickened to share a country with the law makers and law enforcement involved. You're a shame on your city, your state, your country, and your family.
If a person got into their car high or intoxicated, and ran over a child, wouldn't they still deserve to go to prison? And in that example, the driver did not know they would harm the child before they started driving. Why would society want to hold a mother who is knowingly harming her unborn child to a different standard? The thought of someone destroying an unborn child's brain through drug use is horrible.
@federalist45 Because she did cocaine in the past does not mean she did it while she was pregnant. Most women drink wine, or other alcohol, then stop when they're pregnant. Those will be targeted soon, if not already.
It's disgusting. A miscarriage is already hard enough on the mother. She obviously wanted a child, and then she miscarries, and some asswipe butts his nose into someone else's business, decides he thinks she should be charged? If she were my wife, he'd need major surgery after.
@tommy605 According to The Dispatch, a newspaper from Gibbs' hometown, Gibbs "faces charges after a cocaine overdose caused the stillbirth of her baby." Gibbs is not scheduled for trial until 12/01/2011. The blogs and posts about the "facts" of this case are premature at this point. My post, and the facts of this case, center on whether or not a mother that takes illegal drugs harming her baby should be held accountable.
This is some Taliban shit... So we spend trillions of dollars on war to supposedly fight this type of oppression only to import the same oppression for ourselves?
Has anybody noticed that Hollywood no longer make "AMERRRRICAAA!" type movies any more (unless Mr. Bay is making it). It's coz Americans and the rest of the world are sick of the f**king lies.
Einstein knew when it was time to flee his country and the whole world thanks him for his decision. The United States and its people are becoming like the Nazis. The smart people will flee this police state before it's too late. Latin America isn't perfect by a long shot, but at least one can get their basic needs met there and have some kind of freedom from the government imprisoning you for having a bad pregnancy, GET OUT GET OUT OF THIS SHITHOLE WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
Nobody can understand the pain a woman has to go through while deleivering her baby,so it's completely the woman's choice whether she wants to keep the baby or not. Secondly,miscarriage isn't something a woman does on purpose. Why would a female go through so much pain if she just wants to ''kill'' the baby? Considering miscarriage murder is like claiming touching someone statutory rape!This brings me to my conclusion,REPUBLICANS HATE WOMEN.
well, there's usually a point in time where the powers that be start taking a people's mothers, wives and daughters away in camps and that's usually when anyone who can fight starts to really lose it and shit really hits the fan
@Sooper: And please, try to understand that not all laws are ethical. Laws do not equal ethics. Just because something is law, that does not make it right. This law is a prime example. How is it just to jail women up because of something that can easlly happen, regardless of any circumstance, that they cannot prevent from happening. 1 out of 4 pregnancies end up as a miscarriage. So, by that sense, should we start locking up 25% of the female population because of it? I personally dont think so.
@Sooper: And btw; do you really think that this "law" is just? Are you married, by any chance? Do you live in any of these states that have this law? If so, lets say your wife gets pregnant, and she gets hurt during her pregnancy, and has a miscarriage. Should she go to jail for that? If you believe so, then I feel awfully sorry for your wife.
@Sooper: Yes. Because if a woman trips over herself while she's pregnant, or she gets into a car accident because some other person was drinking while driving, etc, and gets a miscarriage, then it's completely her fault, and it's the equivalent to murder, and she should be tried for it. Sure. Whatever you "Christians" say...smh.
This...has got to be one of the worst, sickest,most insane piece of sh*t that people call legislation.We are arresting and jailing women who miscarry, possibly even giving them the death penalty,all because something happened that was completely out of their control. This is basically no better than how saudi arabia treats their women. And Btw, how pro-life is it that we are giving the death penalty to women for miscarrying? This law is beyond sick, and whoever passed it should be jailed for it.
My mom had a miscarriage once and it was one of the worst days of her life. She fully intended to have the baby, and was really excited about it. She's a very healthy person and doesn't drink or smoke, and takes extra good care of herself while pregnant. She was depressed for nearly a month after the miscarriage, and the thought of her possibly having to go to prison on top of what had already happened to her is horrendous!
@hellstar1221 In canada, the liberal group split up, so the voted were also split and the conservatice group won. Are you sure you want to go to canada?
@SamIamSamIamthatsam I'm in Canada and I hate the conservative party but they are not as conservative as the republican party. I'm not even sure if they are as conservative as the democrate party, to be honest.
@MrG0TH1ER Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Harper's government the first government in the history of Canada to ever be held in contempt of Parliament? And isn't he also for privatizing prisons?
@PullyElbow27 No need to correct. He is. That's part of the things that make me hate him. I hate him so much!!! He's also a "pro life" and against gay marriage. But when we talk about government size and economy he is not as capitalist as the american. Harper made me a separatist.
@hellstar1221 Who the hell are you? It's like, who asked YOU if YOU wanted to move to the United States. No one is asking! So what the F?? Moron, don't answer questions nobody is asking! Common sense!
@BrendanJD I don't even need to see a pattern to know I'm moving to a state by the beach. I hear California and New York are nice this time of year...
The sooner the US realizes that its religious right's views are as extreme as those of its enemies the sooner some kind of rationality will begin to return to the country.
In the meantime, quit electing these right wing assholes into power and one day you'll be able to get on an airplane again without having a stranger cup your balls.
@ChipArgyle But this is the most free country in the world!!
So long as the news keeps blasting ideas of fear and terror and bad guys overseas, the reality of what is happening on our soil will pass by unnoticed by millions until it's too late.
@ChipArgyle "In the meantime, quit electing these right wing assholes into power and one day you'll be able to get on an airplane again without having a stranger cup your balls."
How would a left wing lead U.S. suddenly eliminate terrorists from hijacking planes? Does not compute. It doesn't matter who's in power, a stranger cuping your balls at the airport is a necessary evil if you want to have atleast some security in air travel.
Yes... indeed.. Republicans are hypocritical when they talk of smaller government, They love big government and this shows a definite over reach of Republicans and government...
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@DeJach Actually, now I think about it. Can I ask you a question? How does what is happening in Australia (i.e. loss of freedoms) earn the epithet "especially", especially when compared to a dictatorship like China, a rigid "limited democracy" like Singapore or... Europe?
I live in Australia and I feel very free (politically). What are you getting at?
What the fuck is wrong with these assholes. A miscarriage when the immune system attacks the fetuse and also when a child wasn't devoluped properly before it was born. These politicians are pushing for these laws should get their uneducated heads out of their self-rightous asses and look up the meaning of a miscarriage is. And one more thing when a couple want a child and a miscarriage happens, what you want to arrest them too. Give me a break.
I can understand someone getting upset when a crackwhore has a miscarriage......but trying to enforce a law like this is impossible...it just is. Where does it stop, Drink wine while pregnant, burn the bitch, Pain killers...kill the bitch, why stop at drugs???
If a young teenage white girl is texting and she hits a car with a pregnant woman who then has a miscarriage...the teenager should be locked up for 25 years...oh wait, not anymore.
Okay, I think that it is incredibly douchey to snort up or carry a downs syndrome baby to term. But they are just babies, the problem is if the babies actually become toddlers and then are really old enough to be worthy of human rights, after which you could charge the mother for fucking up the baby. Of course the zeitgeist needs to change in order for people to be smart enough to abort retarded babies, before they become worthy of right to life and place a burden on society and the individual.
I am glad that I am not a policeman or ever had been one becase of all the innocent people put in jail that is now out and all the drug arrests that are out and all the brutality that the police have committed & hurt many other people by lying and putting them in jail there must be millions of very angry people when shit hits the fan they will hunt police down like a dog with rabies and cut his head off and put it a pole police and armed and retarded they R cowards
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@Badtreewater People from Europe have just as much of a valid opinion as us. They see America through an outside perspective and therefore see things about this country we might not necessarily see ourselves.
@CHAOSoriginal even in the middle east they don't lock up women for miscarriage or still births they put it down to act of allah , even iran allows abortion for the first four months of pregancy
ok cenk. let's not punish women who take drugs and alcohol while their pregnant. because guess what, not all of those women won't miscarry nor will their babies die in infancy. their children will have a long life of suffering with retardation, deformity and diseases that are a direct result of drug abuse during pregnancy. i have no sympathy for crack parents, children deserve alot better!
Ana asks what's happening to our country? Nothing is happening. It already happened. The U.S. went down the path of insanity decades ago; we are only feeling it now and I'm afraid we are way past the point of no return.
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Republicans have got to be the most STUPID people in America. If this were happening somewhere like Iran or Iraq, they'd be going crazy, bursting with excitement at the chance to point the finger at another nation and their ways. These people are sick and THEY should be in prison on account of excessive stupidity.
Republican/democrat doesnt make a difference, They are all for the expansion of government into every facet of our lives. There is not one thing here in america that isnt regulated, From the moment we wake up in the morning to the time we go to sleep everything has a law of some sort of governmental opinion on how it should be done. Freedom my ass, This is a police state that you can be thrown into jail for anything with no trial (thank you patriot act) The US has the largest prison pop on earth
If you want to convict her for using cocaine period because cocaine use in itself is illegal, that's one thing.. But what about otherwise normal, legal activities? I think women should stop having sex with all republican men until they can pull their heads out of their asses.
its a slippery slope.. cocaine and alcohol can harm an unborn baby.. But I do not think a woman should be imprisoned for using these drugs while pregnant.. In many women, certain forms of exercise can be dangerous.. too much caffeine.. not drinking enough fluids, taking certain prescriptions, eating too much salt or sugar can all harm the baby atleast in some cases.. So are we going to start imprisoning women for adding salt to their dinner coz it might affect the baby?
Soooo... What's our choice then? Stop having children?
bkjftribe 3 weeks ago
What the hell is up with this republican war on women? Punishing them for miscarriages? It must really be her fault. She must be guilty for something that is totally natural. Do they think that women miscarry on purpose? They're adding insult to injury by passing these stupid ass laws.
AsamiFujihara23 1 month ago
@AsamiFujihara23 I agree, miscarriages are something that is extremely tough on a lot of women it happens to, thus punishing them for it only makes what is hard enough on them already even worse.
TheSolitaryTraveller 1 month ago
sooo.... doing drugs while pregnant = murder... but abortion is okay? wtf is wrong with not only america but the world lately...
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its her body so its her choice
pitster110 2 months ago
What now? Do we no longer have children? Like seriously, it's not our fault if our body's function fails.
TheSlyHunter 2 months ago
Sign... life in jail for having a miscarriage, those crazy Saudis never cease to amaz.....WTF this was in the USA? America, are you still a democracy?
PhatFarm60 4 months ago 4
In the Mississippi case, she was accused not just of murder, but of depraved heart murder, which carries a mandatory life sentence.
And now, because that's not enough, there is an initiative on the ballot to define life at starting at conception. It's actually on the ballot and, according to polls, could pass with 70% of the vote.
As a woman (and mother) who lives in Mississippi, this is terrifying to me.
youngliterati 5 months ago 6
It's not at all fair to punish women this way without viewing their backgrounds. What if they decided to keep the baby, but he/she died and it wasn't even her fault? It's true that we should take care of our babies, but most times it is not the women's fault. There's usually a pair to make a baby and it's a complete outrage for a woman to take the heat for something she shared a responsibility with.
OrchidCloud123 5 months ago 3
America has more of its own people locked up than any other country and the government wants even more of us behind bars for BS crimes. Why? Because America's prison system operates like a business. Prisons get $50,000 per year per inmate and get to use their inmates as slave labor at the same time. Do your research people. At this rate, we may not have the Internet for much longer.
SoloWing808 5 months ago 2
No need to go abroad to fight tyranny. Plenty here at home...
SoloWing808 5 months ago 6
Does anyone have information about the current status of these cases? I have had a really difficult time finding information about this.
septogram7 6 months ago 3
As if having a miscarriage isn't horrible enough.
jiggerblayne 6 months ago
@jiggerblayne This
Fuleadeare 6 months ago
Just imagine: if you're a woman, one day you could be behind bars or put to death for falling down the stairs. And if you're a man, just imagine: one day, the wife you love more than anything could be taken away from you forever because she lost a baby that you two made together.
Imagine.
Fuleadeare 7 months ago 5
Republicans are laughed at by the rest of the sane world!
CapSicarius 7 months ago 3
i know the us was a bit fucked up but wow its more than i thought.
jamie123ginge 7 months ago
this is about money nothing else.
foxterrier65 7 months ago
@Plato86 Ok, so let's say that Grandpa is a smoker. And he smokes around his daughter while she is pregnant. The smoke provokes a severe asthma attack and during the treatment of that she miscarries and loses the baby. Should we lock up Grandpa for unborn child endangerment or should we lock up the daughter for putting the life of her unborn child at risk since she knew her Dad was a smoker? What is barbaric is trying to control women's lives from birth to death. Where do you draw the line?
lycina12 7 months ago 3
In that scenario I would say that the causal link between the woman's behavior and the miscarriage is broken by the intervening action of the grandfather. Again these laws are specifically designed to punish mothers who intentionally take drugs while they are pregnant or who engage in activity that is so extremely reckless that they had to have known it would lead to miscarriage. The line is where the woman's action would have lasting effects on the unborn. In favor of crackbabies?
Plato86 7 months ago
Wow. This is the most hyperbolic I've seen TYT, especially Ana, in some time. It's fine to disagree with a specific policy or case but to then stretch it and say that we have a police state or dictatorship or say things like "What's happening to this country" is fucking ridiculous. You're stretching a specific case to fit you're narrow worldview. It's sad that a show I once loved is stooping to such mouth-foaming antics.
Bladewing10 7 months ago
THis is very sick. Wow I guess the cops don't got shit to do with their lives.
Chris12163 7 months ago
Next thing you know they'll be putting your family in jail if a person under 90 dies. These people make me absolutely SICK
Silverwolfstar15 7 months ago
Ana you are on to something here, it's a very big deal!
DeepRootsFilms 8 months ago
Fuck the south. Move the fuck outta there. If this keeps up I will literally move to Europe. America is slowly going to the shitter.
clayton7m 8 months ago 2
The article in the guardian is incomplete - what evidence was presented to support the allegations? An autopsy would determine the cause of the miscarriage or stillbirth. People who abuse alcohol or drugs are responsible for the harm that they do - if a drunk driver killed someone, including an unborn child, they'd be criminal responsible. It wouldn't be "depraved-heart murder" but it would be a crime.
billmelater60 8 months ago
Why shouldnt a women who did cocaine will pregnant not be accountable?
omarascha 8 months ago
@omarascha the report said she had a prior history of cocaine use not that she was using cocaine during the time she was pregnant with her child
Theenemy38 8 months ago
@omarascha this report did not say she was doing it while pregnant, its just that she had a history of cocain use, not that she was doing it WHILE pregnant, not that doing cocaine while pregnant would cause a miscarraige anyway, maybe if she did an insane amount of it, but this was not the case. its seems to me you do not have a very healthy view of women
phoboskitty 8 months ago
@phoboskitty Its not that i dont have a healthy view of women. I just am disgusted by the ones that choose to have a child and then abuse their bodies while pregnant.
omarascha 7 months ago
@omarascha
The majority of miscarriages have nothing to do with substance or bodily abuse.
The woman in question did not do cocaine while pregnant. There is no evidence that it was even relevant to the miscarriage.
Furthermore, those who take cocaine are usually addicted to it. Women who become pregnant are not always pregnant by their choice--they may not even have consented to the sex. Several may not know that they even are pregnant.
This law disregards that. It is wrong.
Fuleadeare 7 months ago
@omarascha Why shouldn't presidents who did cocaine not be accoutable?
magicpet 8 months ago
Hearing about stuff like this kinda makes me wonder if we as a species are worth saving, but to me the ultimate irony is that the people passing these laws are the same ones trying to ban "sharia law" not realizing or caring that they are passing laws which are fundamentally the same in nature, which remove all rights from women and lower them to noting more that expendable property. Very disturbing indeed
Theenemy38 8 months ago
MastermindX I laughed at your comment but I see how the right nutty wingers can use that logic to further their ideology. It's not far-fetched if they are go
dalmatio 8 months ago
This makes me sick the American government doesn't have 1oz of any morals or standards. Anything that doesn't put money in their pockets is against the law. Its iron clad. America is NOT a free country. Our government is a circus full of clowns. I feel sorry and afraid for our future. Primitive and backwards its becoming.
claressa98 8 months ago
Yep, keeping tabs on pregnant women DOES AMOUNT TO BIG GOVERNMENT! That is the reason I roll my eyes whenever the conservatives talk about small government. Trying to legislate a woman's uterus is way bigger government than I ever wanted.
libgirl420 8 months ago
"We can't do this, whats happening to our country" is right. You guys gotta do something. This is just getting out of hand.
MrAmbrister 8 months ago
What. The. Flying. Fuck.
godofacorns 8 months ago
Next thing: male masturbation = mass murder.
MastermindX 8 months ago 62
@MastermindX
That and menstruation!
Fuleadeare 7 months ago
@MastermindX Religious people already consider it mass murder.
They think they're "wasting their seed" and thus not allowing a child to be born.
TerminalRhinoVirus 7 months ago
@TerminalRhinoVirus And how did you discover that? Did you go to a church and do a survey? If you did, which church? What part of the world? Or are you just repeating the rhetoric that some high-and-mighty priest (or oh hell, Leviticus) spewed once, assuming everyone who follows religion bought into the idiotic prattle?
Please do not speak for a whole people as though we are hive-minded. You are welcome to dislike us, but to generalize anyone as you have done is very crude.
RoflmaoRob 6 months ago
@RoflmaoRob You are right, I made a rude generalization about religious people as a whole and I apologize.
TerminalRhinoVirus 6 months ago
@TerminalRhinoVirus
Don't worry about it, friend...water under the bridge :) And thank you for the apology, that actually really meant a lot.
RoflmaoRob 6 months ago
@RoflmaoRob No problem, I feel it is only right for one to admit their mistakes.
TerminalRhinoVirus 6 months ago
Are the stars on the flag behind her Pentagrams? strange
billsang1 8 months ago
@billsang1 Stars are pentagrams...
Seanze329 8 months ago
This is the same thing as why we don't want public health care, because if you are sick it's probably your fault because you didn't pray enough or because your gay lifestyle or whatever other bullshit reason, so I shouldn't pay for it.
MastermindX 8 months ago
Jesus fucking christ
I was gonna say happy 4th of july but this makes me think twice
MagicAssasin 8 months ago 2
The thing is, how long a jail sentence would a man serve if he causes a miscarriage through physical abuse? I doubt what that woman is facing for something that isn't even her damn fault.
Bethster7 8 months ago
What a load of fucking idiots. Miscarriage is a natural, heart-breaking event that very often happens to innocent women and their families. Can that crowd of pricks not imagine what it feels like to have your child die inside of them through no fault of their own, with nothing they can do about it? C'mon America, sort it out, this is sick.
Bethster7 8 months ago 4
Fuck everything about this.
EventisInnovations 8 months ago 3
@EventisInnovations agreed bro
4444HD 8 months ago
This is disgusting, absolutely sexist, nonsensical and disgusting. Are women just walking wombs to these people, nothing more than baby machines? At the rate things are going, I bet they're gonna make birth control illegal, too, or getting you're tubes tied :/
SulphurTea 8 months ago 53
the south? ya don't say?
mightydojo 8 months ago 2
So what's next? Any woman that has a period is gonna be locked up too? What hte fuck is wrogn with you people! That's fuckgin SICK! A miscarriage is already a very tragic thing, with some woman NEVER recovering from the emotional impact of it, and now they are gonna be sent to jail too? fuck you you america! FUCK YOU!!!
Luinta 8 months ago 6
But Do They Not Know How Many Women Are Getting Away With Drinking While Pregnant?? Righttttt?
PokeTopic 8 months ago
Why anyone with full use of a brain voluntarily would want to live in a country so fucked up is beyond me. It is officially.. Americans are insane. If you are a woman. Between 13 and 45. GET THE FUCK OUT BEFORE IT'S TO LATE.
nekedemus 8 months ago
It all sounds like very much like the Hand Maidens Tale, woman are nothing more than walking wombs.
EvilEuropean 8 months ago
Inbred southern redneck fucks.
WanderingTaoist101 8 months ago
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rofl, i like how TYT uses this as an opportunity to generalize and demonize those on the right. im a libertarian and i find this just as heinous as they do. TYT will cross any line to spread ther liberal agenda, nomatter how untrue it is.
JackofOneTrade567 8 months ago
SICK SICK SICK PEOPLE
DocumentaryStream 8 months ago
America has went insane. what the fuck are wrong with these people?!!! WTF?!!
hongyewu 8 months ago 2
so every time a male bodied person jacks off are they going to consider it "child abandonment"? WTF! The body gets rid of un-viable fetus's, it's natural, it helps keep the gene pool healthy!
RavenBlaze 8 months ago
@RavenBlaze I do agree with you, but the jacking off analogy doesn't work. Sperm only have half a genome (Chromosomes 1n) and if you were going to use that as the analogy then it would be the same as when a woman has her period and discards an egg.
stressgranule 8 months ago
Christian taliban, here we come. The coke mom should be sterilized IMO, but not locked up for murder.
Laughingblades 8 months ago
My sister had a miscarriage last year. It was really hard on her, because she really wants to have children. But in the eyes of the "pro-life" crowd, she's a murderer who killed her baby so she could have sex without consequence and deserved to be thrown in jail. Screw you, conservatives. Screw you forever.
TBTabby 8 months ago 5
"South Carolina was one of the first states to introduce such a foetal homicide law. National Advocates for Pregnant Women has found only one case of a South Carolina man who assaulted a pregnant woman having been charged under its terms, and his conviction was eventually overturned. Yet the group estimates there have been up to 300 women arrested for their actions during pregnancy."
shelly8510 8 months ago
I thought it was going to be about the middle east. I was wrong, I have lost faith in america, humanity, and the world.
SomeGuyWithABucket 8 months ago
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They have no logic whatsoever. Pro-life? More like Anti-women.
yahooman2009 8 months ago
Despicable. I'm sickened to share a country with the law makers and law enforcement involved. You're a shame on your city, your state, your country, and your family.
pkemrin 8 months ago
If a person got into their car high or intoxicated, and ran over a child, wouldn't they still deserve to go to prison? And in that example, the driver did not know they would harm the child before they started driving. Why would society want to hold a mother who is knowingly harming her unborn child to a different standard? The thought of someone destroying an unborn child's brain through drug use is horrible.
federalist45 8 months ago
@federalist45 Because she did cocaine in the past does not mean she did it while she was pregnant. Most women drink wine, or other alcohol, then stop when they're pregnant. Those will be targeted soon, if not already.
It's disgusting. A miscarriage is already hard enough on the mother. She obviously wanted a child, and then she miscarries, and some asswipe butts his nose into someone else's business, decides he thinks she should be charged? If she were my wife, he'd need major surgery after.
tommy605 8 months ago 3
@tommy605 According to The Dispatch, a newspaper from Gibbs' hometown, Gibbs "faces charges after a cocaine overdose caused the stillbirth of her baby." Gibbs is not scheduled for trial until 12/01/2011. The blogs and posts about the "facts" of this case are premature at this point. My post, and the facts of this case, center on whether or not a mother that takes illegal drugs harming her baby should be held accountable.
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optimusnightwatch 8 months ago
This is some Taliban shit... So we spend trillions of dollars on war to supposedly fight this type of oppression only to import the same oppression for ourselves?
fightforyourrights9 8 months ago
Has anybody noticed that Hollywood no longer make "AMERRRRICAAA!" type movies any more (unless Mr. Bay is making it). It's coz Americans and the rest of the world are sick of the f**king lies.
UberNoodleX 8 months ago
could america be any more corrupt.
dyarray 8 months ago
this has to be a joke, or heavily exaggerated. there's NO WAY America imprisons people for miscarriage... i call bullshit.
xjaskix 8 months ago
@xjaskix Nope its not bullshit wish it was but it isn't in some of the southern states they do it.
dogking100 8 months ago
Einstein knew when it was time to flee his country and the whole world thanks him for his decision. The United States and its people are becoming like the Nazis. The smart people will flee this police state before it's too late. Latin America isn't perfect by a long shot, but at least one can get their basic needs met there and have some kind of freedom from the government imprisoning you for having a bad pregnancy, GET OUT GET OUT OF THIS SHITHOLE WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
WellIAMScottish 8 months ago
Hmm. Day by day Europe keeps looking better and better....
domisthebomb09 8 months ago
Nobody can understand the pain a woman has to go through while deleivering her baby,so it's completely the woman's choice whether she wants to keep the baby or not. Secondly,miscarriage isn't something a woman does on purpose. Why would a female go through so much pain if she just wants to ''kill'' the baby? Considering miscarriage murder is like claiming touching someone statutory rape!This brings me to my conclusion,REPUBLICANS HATE WOMEN.
flullyprincess 8 months ago
well, there's usually a point in time where the powers that be start taking a people's mothers, wives and daughters away in camps and that's usually when anyone who can fight starts to really lose it and shit really hits the fan
SotNist 8 months ago
Wait till they just put women in camps to ensure they carry to term
SwagDemon 8 months ago
Republicans are total fucktards!
edgwaterprog 8 months ago
@Sooper: And please, try to understand that not all laws are ethical. Laws do not equal ethics. Just because something is law, that does not make it right. This law is a prime example. How is it just to jail women up because of something that can easlly happen, regardless of any circumstance, that they cannot prevent from happening. 1 out of 4 pregnancies end up as a miscarriage. So, by that sense, should we start locking up 25% of the female population because of it? I personally dont think so.
dude2dawg 8 months ago
@Sooper: And btw; do you really think that this "law" is just? Are you married, by any chance? Do you live in any of these states that have this law? If so, lets say your wife gets pregnant, and she gets hurt during her pregnancy, and has a miscarriage. Should she go to jail for that? If you believe so, then I feel awfully sorry for your wife.
dude2dawg 8 months ago
@Sooper: Yes. Because if a woman trips over herself while she's pregnant, or she gets into a car accident because some other person was drinking while driving, etc, and gets a miscarriage, then it's completely her fault, and it's the equivalent to murder, and she should be tried for it. Sure. Whatever you "Christians" say...smh.
dude2dawg 8 months ago
This...has got to be one of the worst, sickest,most insane piece of sh*t that people call legislation.We are arresting and jailing women who miscarry, possibly even giving them the death penalty,all because something happened that was completely out of their control. This is basically no better than how saudi arabia treats their women. And Btw, how pro-life is it that we are giving the death penalty to women for miscarrying? This law is beyond sick, and whoever passed it should be jailed for it.
dude2dawg 8 months ago 4
@dude2dawg "out of their control" ??? The EXACT OPPOSITE is the case. They get punished BECAUSE they were the ones who were in control.
sooperfukker 8 months ago
My mom had a miscarriage once and it was one of the worst days of her life. She fully intended to have the baby, and was really excited about it. She's a very healthy person and doesn't drink or smoke, and takes extra good care of herself while pregnant. She was depressed for nearly a month after the miscarriage, and the thought of her possibly having to go to prison on top of what had already happened to her is horrendous!
blue4arekkusu 8 months ago 2
WTF is wrong with these people?!
samster211 8 months ago
this is the most bullshit ive heard in a long time fucking government assholes
mike198595 8 months ago
Given that much of the south hates women...why are we taking Bachmann seriously? NO WOMAN CAN WIN A GOP PRIMARY!
tstruss912 8 months ago 5
I am against abortion but this is just ridiculous.
kimchidressagemama 8 months ago
Mississippi and Alabama... What a surprise...
Marsman315 8 months ago
Ann is so hot when she's mad "
stonethugmusic 8 months ago
wow these laws are wrong wtf is going on
AndrewMacedonia 8 months ago
Isn't it ironic these incidents are down south
ucofw 8 months ago
Democrats just love killing other peoples babies and their own of course
frwgt350net 8 months ago
@frwgt350net Conservatives just love making no sense at all.
FloMonKish 8 months ago
shows how backwards america is.move to europe.its good here
louiscfc93 8 months ago
I'll see you in Canada...
hellstar1221 8 months ago 31
@hellstar1221 In canada, the liberal group split up, so the voted were also split and the conservatice group won. Are you sure you want to go to canada?
SamIamSamIamthatsam 8 months ago
@SamIamSamIamthatsam I'm in Canada and I hate the conservative party but they are not as conservative as the republican party. I'm not even sure if they are as conservative as the democrate party, to be honest.
MrG0TH1ER 8 months ago
@MrG0TH1ER Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Harper's government the first government in the history of Canada to ever be held in contempt of Parliament? And isn't he also for privatizing prisons?
PullyElbow27 8 months ago
@PullyElbow27 No need to correct. He is. That's part of the things that make me hate him. I hate him so much!!! He's also a "pro life" and against gay marriage. But when we talk about government size and economy he is not as capitalist as the american. Harper made me a separatist.
MrG0TH1ER 8 months ago
@SamIamSamIamthatsam Im Canadian and I would never move to the United States!
hellstar1221 8 months ago
@hellstar1221 No one is asking you to, lady. It's like, who are you? hahahahhaha!
SamIamSamIamthatsam 6 months ago
@SamIamSamIamthatsam I am a guy? Who the fuck are you? You dont know anything about Canadian politics.
hellstar1221 6 months ago
@hellstar1221 Who the hell are you? It's like, who asked YOU if YOU wanted to move to the United States. No one is asking! So what the F?? Moron, don't answer questions nobody is asking! Common sense!
SamIamSamIamthatsam 6 months ago
It's scary when that's the culture of the predominant military and economic power of the world and many want to imitate it.
ZealotKommunizma 8 months ago
@BrendanJD I don't even need to see a pattern to know I'm moving to a state by the beach. I hear California and New York are nice this time of year...
SpartanSlayer 8 months ago
The sooner the US realizes that its religious right's views are as extreme as those of its enemies the sooner some kind of rationality will begin to return to the country.
In the meantime, quit electing these right wing assholes into power and one day you'll be able to get on an airplane again without having a stranger cup your balls.
ChipArgyle 8 months ago 67
@ChipArgyle But this is the most free country in the world!!
So long as the news keeps blasting ideas of fear and terror and bad guys overseas, the reality of what is happening on our soil will pass by unnoticed by millions until it's too late.
sprockityspock 8 months ago
@ChipArgyle "In the meantime, quit electing these right wing assholes into power and one day you'll be able to get on an airplane again without having a stranger cup your balls."
How would a left wing lead U.S. suddenly eliminate terrorists from hijacking planes? Does not compute. It doesn't matter who's in power, a stranger cuping your balls at the airport is a necessary evil if you want to have atleast some security in air travel.
byteresistor 8 months ago
@ChipArgyle What, you meant that isn't routine?
Then... the who was that guy last flight...?
Grandy12 8 months ago
@Grandy12 Hope you enjoyed it! Ha!
ChipArgyle 8 months ago
Yes... indeed.. Republicans are hypocritical when they talk of smaller government, They love big government and this shows a definite over reach of Republicans and government...
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 8 months ago
I am sure that the WHOLE story is not being told here. There is something that these women are doing that is raising red flags.
CommonSenseJoe 8 months ago
@CommonSenseJoe Yeah, because we all know that they never incarcerate people without a good reason...
sprockityspock 8 months ago
@sprockityspock That is true. They usually have some basis for making the charge.
CommonSenseJoe 8 months ago
@DeJach Actually, now I think about it. Can I ask you a question? How does what is happening in Australia (i.e. loss of freedoms) earn the epithet "especially", especially when compared to a dictatorship like China, a rigid "limited democracy" like Singapore or... Europe?
I live in Australia and I feel very free (politically). What are you getting at?
Joshua001A 8 months ago
What the fuck is wrong with these assholes. A miscarriage when the immune system attacks the fetuse and also when a child wasn't devoluped properly before it was born. These politicians are pushing for these laws should get their uneducated heads out of their self-rightous asses and look up the meaning of a miscarriage is. And one more thing when a couple want a child and a miscarriage happens, what you want to arrest them too. Give me a break.
TheBuddog89 8 months ago 4
I can understand someone getting upset when a crackwhore has a miscarriage......but trying to enforce a law like this is impossible...it just is. Where does it stop, Drink wine while pregnant, burn the bitch, Pain killers...kill the bitch, why stop at drugs???
If a young teenage white girl is texting and she hits a car with a pregnant woman who then has a miscarriage...the teenager should be locked up for 25 years...oh wait, not anymore.
daguzify 8 months ago
Okay, I think that it is incredibly douchey to snort up or carry a downs syndrome baby to term. But they are just babies, the problem is if the babies actually become toddlers and then are really old enough to be worthy of human rights, after which you could charge the mother for fucking up the baby. Of course the zeitgeist needs to change in order for people to be smart enough to abort retarded babies, before they become worthy of right to life and place a burden on society and the individual.
MacabreManifesto 8 months ago
I am glad that I am not a policeman or ever had been one becase of all the innocent people put in jail that is now out and all the drug arrests that are out and all the brutality that the police have committed & hurt many other people by lying and putting them in jail there must be millions of very angry people when shit hits the fan they will hunt police down like a dog with rabies and cut his head off and put it a pole police and armed and retarded they R cowards
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NeroJoe83 8 months ago
A woman doing cocaine while pregnant deserves to be punished. I don't believe what TYT is saying about the downs child. They mus be lying yet again.
FactChecking101 8 months ago
@FactChecking101 Yep, turns out it's a lie. The woman was doing drugs.
FactChecking101 8 months ago
If a Man were to punch a Woman in the stomach when she was pregnant, and it caused her to miscarry, he would be charged with murder.
But!; if through her own willful actions!, she; with malicious intent, cause's the child to die, she is a victim and not a murderer.
How do you figure this?.
Please, those of you from Europe,Stay there.
Badtreewater 8 months ago
@Badtreewater People from Europe have just as much of a valid opinion as us. They see America through an outside perspective and therefore see things about this country we might not necessarily see ourselves.
sprockityspock 8 months ago
When I read the title I expected this to be a story about women in the Middle East. Boy was I wrong, and shocked at the same time.
CHAOSoriginal 8 months ago 41
@CHAOSoriginal , ME TOO!! O_O
Lovelyontheskin 8 months ago
@CHAOSoriginal even in the middle east they don't lock up women for miscarriage or still births they put it down to act of allah , even iran allows abortion for the first four months of pregancy
jmm1233 8 months ago 3
@CHAOSoriginal Congratulations, your eyes have been opened a little bit more.
Endiroth 8 months ago
Now I'd LOVE to hear how they logically worked this one out....
JonathanPanter 8 months ago
ok cenk. let's not punish women who take drugs and alcohol while their pregnant. because guess what, not all of those women won't miscarry nor will their babies die in infancy. their children will have a long life of suffering with retardation, deformity and diseases that are a direct result of drug abuse during pregnancy. i have no sympathy for crack parents, children deserve alot better!
extrapressure 8 months ago
Even better. Chemicals in tap water causes miscarriages. Jail 'em for drinking tap water. Yeah. That's the ticket.
SnatchTease 8 months ago 7
Next up, jailing men for having weak sperm.
SnatchTease 8 months ago 3
Well if you do cocaine and have a baby, you deserve to be punished. I don't know if I am against eugenics or not but that is terrible.
nintendo768 8 months ago
It's a good time to be a woman....
Fluorit 8 months ago
Okay, if I ever get pregnant, I'm leaving the country.
blckprljin 8 months ago 6
Ana asks what's happening to our country? Nothing is happening. It already happened. The U.S. went down the path of insanity decades ago; we are only feeling it now and I'm afraid we are way past the point of no return.
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 8 months ago
LOL Like god did not punish her enough...
Derail07 8 months ago
SO WRONG....SO SAD!
12235117657598502586 8 months ago
"Small government" strikes again
MagnesDrachen13 8 months ago
how the fuck is yu gonna lock up someone for that !!
YourBoiiAcee 8 months ago
Whow, this is getting scary people!
Darthpsychonis 8 months ago
Fuck America get some common sence!
derberg19486 8 months ago
Miscarriages are natural. They happen in every species on the planet. Therefore, we should arrest Mother Nature.
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 8 months ago
Republicans have got to be the most STUPID people in America. If this were happening somewhere like Iran or Iraq, they'd be going crazy, bursting with excitement at the chance to point the finger at another nation and their ways. These people are sick and THEY should be in prison on account of excessive stupidity.
IGotFree 8 months ago 39
Democrats: Big government that gives to the people.
Republicans: Big government that takes it all away.
Theroha 8 months ago 35
this disgusts me
BreakingLondonOn 8 months ago 4
You know you live in a Police State, when you're not even sure what is legal or not and common sense isn't dictating Justice anymore...
Can't wait for the US to Crash and Burn...
EckoStream 8 months ago 2
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derberg19486 8 months ago
Republican/democrat doesnt make a difference, They are all for the expansion of government into every facet of our lives. There is not one thing here in america that isnt regulated, From the moment we wake up in the morning to the time we go to sleep everything has a law of some sort of governmental opinion on how it should be done. Freedom my ass, This is a police state that you can be thrown into jail for anything with no trial (thank you patriot act) The US has the largest prison pop on earth
TheStrazy 8 months ago 7
God, it had to be South Carolina...
UnionHighsLadyL 8 months ago
you'll get no sympathy from ana
angelforce001 8 months ago
If you want to convict her for using cocaine period because cocaine use in itself is illegal, that's one thing.. But what about otherwise normal, legal activities? I think women should stop having sex with all republican men until they can pull their heads out of their asses.
MsKBrennan 8 months ago
its a slippery slope.. cocaine and alcohol can harm an unborn baby.. But I do not think a woman should be imprisoned for using these drugs while pregnant.. In many women, certain forms of exercise can be dangerous.. too much caffeine.. not drinking enough fluids, taking certain prescriptions, eating too much salt or sugar can all harm the baby atleast in some cases.. So are we going to start imprisoning women for adding salt to their dinner coz it might affect the baby?
MsKBrennan 8 months ago 3