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  • Why did you cut the part where she made them all a sandwich?

  • Shitty, I thought this was going to be some white bitch going at it with a coon.

  • she din't had a chance

  • You man are proud to be man but why? You will answer - because of reason and free will. Yes you are right, BUT God gave you reason and free will in order to make it possible to you to believe God. If you don't believe God, and God is Truth, Jesus is Truth, you reject to use your reason and free will in the most sublime way possible for you. You reject to use your reason and free will in the way which was the main reason you received them from God.You reject to use them for what you received them

  • @akwinata1 STFU with your ancient jew god mythology

  • she won't let me masturbate!

  • She is incredibly intelligent and a tough single women who is honest with integrity. I only wish I could live in Delaware to vote for this remarkable young woman. She is my new HERO in life. Please vote for her if you live there.

  • christine odonnell believes that evolution is a myth - that is all i need to say

  • I will say this about the Delaware witch, she's just a tad bit smarter than Sarah Palin, but not a whole lot...I would say they're almost neck and neck. Sarah, however has become an expert at exploiting her mindless base for money and lots of it. Maybe O'Donnell will follow in her footsteps. These 2 ladies are really an embarrassment/insult to this nation's intelligence.

  • The art of editing and commentary. Listening to this report would make you think that O'Donnell lost this debate. Good job slave masters! Keep the slaves right where you want them.

    In the morning!

    No Agenda Show

  • Oh no, shes going to win senate, then president in 2012, and then it will be the end of the world like the aztecs predicted. lol

  • She seems less retarded than Sarah Palin...

    Guess that's why Palin is more popular with the republican base.

  • Dational debt :)

  • I'd like to know why the announcer called Coons a Democratic candidate and O'Donnell a "Tea Party Backed Candidate" rather than being professional and speaking of her as the Republican candidate? The tea party is a great movement and I support it 100% but I doubt even the late liberal Walter Cronkite would have been as unprofessional as to word a single news story in this manner. At least he had integrity despite his personal beliefs.

    And that's the way it is. these days

    Rolland B. Heiss

  • A 1987 Supreme Court decision found teaching Creationism in public schools was UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

    Edwards v. Aguillard, 482 U.S. 578 (1987) was a legal case about the teaching of creationism that was heard by the Supreme Court of the United States in 1987. The Court ruled that a Louisiana law requiring that creation science be taught in public schools, along with evolution, was unconstitutional because the law was specifically intended to advance a particular religion.

  • call her a cunt again...it makes you sound really intelligent

  • This was not a debate. A debate implies that there were two intelligent parties at play here. Coons crushed this retard. It's flabbergasting, the retarded things this inbred cunt was saying.

  • what a fuggin idiot she is

  • Additionally, kids brought by illegals are also illegals. It's not our fault. Blame the parents. The parents should be fined. Don't blame the kids. Just send them back without fining them. If we don't stand firm, more will come. If we make things so tough for illegals that they voluntarily go back to Mexico, etc. and tell others not to come here, THAT'S great. SOLVING the problem, not perpetuating it, is the key. See the Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs - Updated 2010 video by NumbersUSA.

  • either as students or as employees.

    Dream Act HELL! Prosecute those schools, fining them $10,000 EACH illegal plus deport costs.

    6.) Lastly, IMPEACH and PROSECUTE President Obama, and all TRAITORS in Congress trying to give amnesty, "free" healthcare, etc. to FOREIGN NATIONALS HERE ILLEGALLY. For they are not exempt from federal law which says it's a felony CRIME, punishable by 5 years prison and $5,000 fine, to aid or abet, or to encourage or harbor, illegal aliens.

  • @tncdel

    I've read your 1-6 ideas.

    Your level of craziness, oddly enough, is right out of 1984:

    Instead of looking for traitorous capitalist, you’re hunting down illegal peoples.

    Sounds like it would take alot of "BIG GOV" to handle all that nonsense.

    Next you will want "thought police"

  • @willdrake1, apparently you have nil respect for law & order, or for the laws of our country that my ideas enforce. You're digressing into Lib PC kool-aid drinking paranoia [e.g. "thought police," "1984, " et al]. So I'll just leave you alone to enjoy your little hallucinations. Apparently you're at that point of no return. Calling law enforcement "craziness." I'm done with you. I have more important things to attend to. Best wishes hoping you get your head straightened out some day.

  • @tncdel School have no way of knowing if the student is illegal or not.

    There is no such question on their entrance papers.

    Are you now wanting Americans to say if they live here legally or not?

    Civil Rights/ Privacy mean anything to you? Guess not, not in your search for the evil Mexican .

    Under the Con, born here makes you a US Citizen----Are you now saying you can change the Con?

    "Well, if its what I think/feel based on info I find acceptable, its ok; but if its not, than its wrong. "

  • @tncdel "and all TRAITORS in Congress trying to give amnesty, "free" healthcare, etc. to FOREIGN NATIONALS HERE ILLEGALLY"

    Dear Stupid Fuck: amnesty for illegal aliens is a Republican concept, so stop yammering on about Obama, who has done more to strengthen our border with Mexico in 18 months than Bush did in 8 years.

  • Earth to kaysandesses, come in please!

    You need to lay off the Lib kool-aid. It's got you hallucinating that Harry Reid [who a few weeks ago tried slipping amnesty past the voters by piggy-backing it behind a Defense bill, and thereby also sabotaging DADT discussion] is a Republican. Or maybe you were addressing yourself, since you are definitely a "Stupid Fuck" ... in which case I apologize for butting into your conversation with yourself. :)~

  • P.S. If you are able to snap out of that Lib kool-aid stupor, you'll wake up to the fact that a couple months ago Obama did a 180 degree turn, by issuing two executive orders, directing Homeland Security and I.C.E. to HALT deportations, and also ordered the release of many illegal; alien criminals on our streets again. What you stated was BEFORE Obama issued those two exec orders. Guess that took the wind out of your sails trying to defend Barrack Hussein. So what now? You should GIVE UP on him.

  • @tncdel Typical, you lack to ability to debate the facts I posted so you instead take the 6th grader route.

  • @kaysandesses, no, YOU are "typical." A typical kool-aid drinking Lib, so CLUELESS you're unable to pereceive that you were just slam-dunked with facts. So your likewise typical "Lib self-denial mode" kicked in. Here, let me copy & paste exactly what fact:

    "Obama did a 180 degree turn, by issuing two executive orders, directing Homeland Security and I.C.E. to HALT deportations, and also ordered the release of many illegals."

    Maybe your reading comprehension was too poor to notice that.

  • @tncdel Notice what you blathering moron? The only post you directed towards me was your childish whining, not unlike this one. Now, you can provide a source for your claim that Obama stopped deportations to Mexico.

  • @kaysandesses, go to the NumbersUSA website. There you can find out the latest reports on the traitor in the White House and other traitors like yourself advocating for foreign nationals here illegally.

  • @tncdel Typical, that a mindless, basement-dwelling conservabot brings nothing but childish insults to the conversation.  boo-fucking-hoo that you can't deal with the fact that you're wrong.

  • @kaysandesses, what's the matter, didn't like the reports by NumersUSA [a non-partisan group]? Go ahead and ignore what counters your false assumptions. That's why PC kool-aid drinkers like you are so clueless and out-of-touch. Continue on your selective "fact" gathering mission, and be sure to overlook anything that disproves your agenda.

  • @tncdel The real fact here you is that the Obama administration has increased deportations by 70% over the Bush Admin.

    So shut your pie-hole, adults are conversing here.

  • @kaysandesses, you need to lay off the Lib kool-aid. It's having a devastating effect on your brain cells. Typical clueless out-of-touch Lib, completely ignores the fact that the traitor in the White House two months ago completely STOPPED deportations by issuing an executive order directing Homeland Security and I.C.E. to stop deportations, and to even release many criminal illegals back onto our streets.

    Why don't you tell Dorothy to ask the Wizard to give you a brain?

    :)~

  • paying $500 each tip for an illegal alien obtaining welfare, food stamps, or any other federal or state services.

    4.) Establish a hot-line to report any non-profit agency giving aid to illegal aliens. It is a federal felony CRIME to aid or abet, or to encourage or harbor, illegal aliens.

    See this web address: americanpatrolDOTcom/REFERENCE­/AidAbetUnlawfulSec8USC1324

    .html

    5.) Establish a hot-line to report any university or other school harboring illegal aliens,

    [continued next post]

  • @tncdel

    Again, how are you going to weed-out the phone calls from haters?

    Sounds like you are going to need a shit load of new "BIG GOV" to watch it correctly; but you hate "big gov" so I don't know how that's going to work.

    The idea of a tip line is jus stupid.

    Ask the Police/FBI why they don't often use a Tip Line, cause it causes more problems then it fixes.

  • and fine the employers $10,000 EACH illegal found working for them plus deport costs. That way taxpayers not only won't have to foot the bill for deport costs, but BOTH the employers and the illegal aliens will have to pay it, so that we get back DOUBLE what it costs us to deport them. Crackdown on a few employers of illegals like that, and I bet you will see mass lay-offs of illegals around the country being replaced by our own people.

    3.) Establish a hot-line

    [continued next post]

  • @tncdel Business is already fined when illegal’s are found working for them.

    The IRS goes over their books.

    The Fed takes them to court.

    IF you want to up the fine, that's good, but what you want is already happening.

  • Then FORCE-work the illegals [on chain gangs, road crews, etc.] to pay off the fines before deporting them. Judges have already sentenced our own citizens guilty of crimes to work off fines, so pro-illegals lobbyists can't call it "unconstitutional." For illegals certainly aren't entitled to be exempt from punishment our own citizens get.

    2.) Establish a hot-line paying $500 rewards for anyone who blows the whistle on employers of illegal aliens,

    [continued next post]

  • @tncdel I like how instead of saying: have them do community service (which is what most people get as punishment), you jump right into Chain Gangs and Road Crews---its just so telling.

    2) Again, another money incentive for people who will simply call in, in the hopes of getting paid.

    Also, business will use this fraudulently against other businesses to get an edge. How do you stop that?

    Who is going to over see this nation wide number? More Gov bureaucracy, which you profess to hate.

  • Here's how to get rid of the illegals at NO Cost to taxpayers, while creating jobs for Americans:

    1.) Put a bounty out of $5,000 for each illegal alien brought to I.C.E. Our citizens can become employed by the job of getting rid of illegals. Then FINE each illegal $10,000 plus deport costs, leaving the government a net profit of $5,000, without making taxpayers foot the bill for deportation.

    [continued next post]

  • @tncdel

    1) How is making a nation of wild west style "bounty hunters" law and order?

    I mean, how are they going to know how is illegal and who isn't---they won't'; and will just be stopping whoever they wish, based on ignorant assumptions as well as the greed factor of making $5k.

    Who will be incharge of the B.H? Sounds like more Gov bureaucracy, which you profess to hate.

    How many people's civil rights are you willing to ruin in your search for the "evil" Mexican?

  • Another dumb, loony bitch being taken seriously. She can't even name one ruling she was against. There's your results for obliging feminist bullshit, libtard nonsense, & neocon bilge. Don't stop though, keep lowering standards & creating arbitrary rules to "level" the playing field. Keep beleiving your local nooz while wolfing down your egg McMuffins. Palin will yet be president in no time! O'Donnel will follow! God bless Ameritard!

  • Coons came across as a sneaky-looking career pol that he is. Whereas, O' Donnell projects sincerity.

    I'm from Delaware, so I know firsthand about Coons. He's corrupt and was inept as a tax & spend exec who, despite being the first to raise our taxes in many years, brought our county to the verge of bankruptcy. He had ties to the Freeberry-Gordon corruption, that he helped cover up in return for his county exec job. Even now he's unethically "double-dipping," still collecting county exec pay.

  • O'Donnell, like most human beings, doesn't always have the answer. It just so happens that Coons can polish a turd better than O'Donnell can fight off powerful people determined to smear her. O'Donnell would be the more committed and principled candidate but the average detached from reality American will likely go for the media lapdog Coons.

  • I don't see why anyone would vote for Coons. O'Donnell has connections to Satan, so she can get things done in Washington.

  • no one in their right mind would vote for Odonnell, Coons was pretty impressive!!

  • @turtleblues66, are you crazy? Impressive? You must be very simple-minded if someone like Coons impresses you. And how are you going to credibly claim to be in your right mind when you behave like a masochist who loves to pay taxes?

  • At least this shows that the coastal states have their share of conservative crazies that they have to put up with, not just us poor saps who have to live in craphole red states.

  • @vernii, the problem is that our whole country has "more than its share" of those too drunk off PC Lib kool-aid to discern "up" from "down."

  • Chris Coons for President 2016

  • @linden621, take your meds NOW!

  • Umm... Coons is New Castle County Executive, not a member of Congress.

  • No doubt your idea of "cleaning up a mess" is similar to Obama's: Making a much bigger mess. QUADRUPLING the National Debt handed him by Bush, and DOUBLING unemployment.

    Enjoy yourself. I'm done playing with you for now. :)~

  • Don't send this Witch any money she will give it to her mama like in the past when she her her$3500

  • Blah, Blah, Blah. Who cares about Christine O'Donnell. She is a small fish. The "FEW" honest Liberals on you tube that have the capacity to read a "POLL" know that the democrats are going to be wiped out in November. Now can I get an Amen?

  • God Chris really needs to change his last name

  • @gasdf13, Harry Reid's "Pet Coon" won't be getting my vote.

  • @GuerrillaFighter12 it seems as if you have picked sides, however I do agree with you on the fact that neither one seems to be a good fit. However, how can anyone go with the established proven losers at this time in our country is beyond me. I'd always go with the one that is different. They look at things differently and will bring a new perspective, as they are not yet corrupted by the system. Although, we did think that about BHO and look what that got us?? LOL.

  • nice creative editing to make her look as bad as possible!

  • @mr2spyders To be fair, no amount of editing could make her look good.

  • I know nothing about politics and the like, but why should someone be shunned about something for not remembering something right on the spot? Its not like government officials have to immediately off the top of their head think of plans and stuff. They get time to do so, so why should this woman be criticized for simply not remembering a specific case? When she goes home she will think of one I bet, but since she didnt do it on the spot....shes ill fit to lead? Btw I dont care who wins

  • As a former Delaware native and Democrat, now living in Texas I'd like to say Ms. O'Donnell is ill prepared to be the next U.S. Senator for the State of Delaware. She is trying to ride whatever coattails that Sarah Palin has and this will not win her the votes needed. Whatever was being fed in her ear during the debate was not working.

  • I would rather elect a Goblin a Gool a witch or a dog than any body that has participated in American politics to date....Coons is a slimy PIECE OF SHIT and a thief on the world stage.......throw the career politicians out and send a message to the bankers.......that sais FUCK YOU we Americans are threw with banker elected cronies in DC.....ELECT CHRISTINE ........it couldnt be any worse than slick pricks planning our demise under the table !

  • Uniuons only belong in private sector. Public unions are unfair to taxpayers. Look at california and how the SEIU has put it into chapter 11. 181,000 jobs lost when the F22 was cancelled. Instead we spent 62 billion on GM since GMAC sold subprime loans. Automakers still are selling mortgages, why? Nothing has changed under Obama for the good.

  • Coon is just a career slimy politician who is another example of lies and BS in American politics....we need to send an message to the world and to the rest of the slime in DC that HEADS ARE GOING TO ROLL........throw them all in the streets and give ANYONE the seat....Christine is new blood let her get in there and fuck these banker dirt bags up.....screw em .....! we have NO MORE CHANCES for these Banker cronies.........NONE .....THROW COONS AND HIS FAMILY INTO THE STREETS !

  • Hey spin this are you a communist or fascist? Sound slike it to me. Since when does a federal judge over rule the UCMJ? Only Congress changes the military law. Obama hasn't even run a lemonade stand let alone a military. Hillary had 10 times more experience. As for ODonell she made mistakes as a young person big deal. What did you do in college. How many frat parties did you do? As for unions Obama only cares about the SEIU. The IAM got screwed when the F22 was chopped.

  • Watch out Chris, Christine might just put a spell on ya! LOL

  • I can't see this woman's face without imagining clown music in the background.

  • @hawanja, if you'd lay off the Lib kool-aid, you'd be able to see more clearly. For one look at Coons' bald Bozo-the-clown head, and it takes no imagination to visually add the red nose, etc.

  • @knightoneday why do certain people say such idiotic things. Criticize the man for his ideas and how he presents them. But when you criticize his appearance you present yourself as a true robotic nonthinking bully with nothing valid to say..

  • @knightoneday

    Too funny! You knew that O'Donnell's dad was a stand-in actor for the actual Bozo the Clown, right?

    I guess that would make her second rate Bozo, Junior. Fitting.

  • @cavaskater, but you have to admit that Coons LOOKS THE PART. Bald-head, ears that stick out, and a bulbous nose that only needs to be painted red. That's ironic that you'd make a comparison to a clown for the opponent of someone who actually looks like a clown.

    :)~

  • @tncdel I don't think you know what the word "irony" means.

  • @cavaskater, apparently you don't.

  • @knightoneday I tried that, but then they started debating and O'Donell just started looking really fucking stupid again.

    At least she's gonna lose, thank god.

  • @hawanja, lay off the Lib kool-aid long enough to sober up, then sensible will appear sensible, and idiotic will no longer appear sensible to you.

  • @tncdel How about you save up and buy a brain, then maybe you'll realize these conservative shitnuggets don't give a fuck about you. You think she'll be a better senator becasue she believes in Jesus? Get out of my face with this bullshit.

    There is something to be said for having intelligent people be our leaders. Which one of these people is smarter? Coons or O'Donnell? I wouldn't let that bitch run a hot dog cart, let alone vote on national fucking legislation.

  • @hawanja, why are you asking me to save my money up to buy a brain for you? You should panhandle for a brain yourself if you want one badly enough? :)~

    P.S. I heard they already tried a bran transplant for you, swapping with a gorilla. But all they wound up with was a retarded ape. :)~

  • @tncdel Just answer the question, you whimpy-ass wifebeater. Do you think Christine O'Donnell will be a better senator simply becasue she believes in Jesus? I mean it's pretty fucking obvious this dumb bitch has no clue what the fuck she's doing, so like is she just gonna pray to God everytime a vote comes up?

    You inebriated dumbshit diseased bags of rodent scrotums need to stop fucking voting based on religion, and start voting based on the qualifications of the candidate.

    Jesus fucking wept.

  • @hawanja, you need to stop talking to yourself like that, calling yourself all those names, or the men in the white jackets will come take you away, ha-ha, to the funny farm.

  • @tncdel You need to stop fooling yourself and admit you're going to vote for the obviously inferior, less competent, and less intelligent candidate.

  • Just drop out Christine you'll never win. Delaware will just go to the anti business progressives.

  • Its been over. He's 19+points ahead.

    She has no qualifications.

    No plans (except to say empty things)

    No way will anyone work with her since, behind doors, they don't respect her.

    She's just a semi-popular (mostly for bad reasons) picked out of anger---had the Reps picked someone worthy, they might've had a chance; but with this choice they served up an easy win to DEMs.

  • @willdrake1 Abraham Lincoln was a six-grade graduate. George Washington was not qualified to be president and didn't want the job.. Obama has never run anything.

    So your point is?

  • @patriot473 Most people of Lincoln's time couldn't read, so "formally" graduating from 6th grade was an enormous step forward---not to mention he was mostly SELF TAUGHT and an avid reader.

    G.W "wasn't qualified" as you say, only because there were not standards at the time. HE was however a very popular/respected War Hero, born to a well-to-do family; who was overwhelmingly chosen for the office of President.

    Comparatively Obama has diff, yet similar qualities whether or not you agree.

  • @willdrake1 It dosen't take superior education or a wealth of experience or qualifications to be a great leader. Only a firm belief in what make America great, individualism over collectivism. Capitalism over socialism. We the People over we the savvy politicians. She got all that over Coons!

  • @patriot473Glad you concede your previous arguments.

    From the rest of your comments, it sounds like you'd be happy with the guy working at Burger King running the country? Maybe even a very patriotic person with somekinda mental disability?

    Really, these are just more empty/anger driven Rep sayings

    This is America. Ofcourse we want the BEST/BRIGHTEST to lead

    "Be all you can be" Army, "The Few the Proud" the Marines…ect

    In the Private Sector too we want the best/top of the class to lead.

  • @willdrake1 "She has no qualifications."

    Nether did Lincoln!

    "No plans (except to say empty things)"

    American ideals are not empty vessels!

    "No way will anyone work with her since, behind doors, they don't respect her."

    Right, the elites hate average citizens!

  • @patriot473 If you think Lincoln, who the Reps wave around like theirown flag, had no "qualifications" I suggest you bone up on your knowledge of our 16th President.

    Yes. Ideals are empty if you have no way to fulfill them, which she doesn’t nor does she intend to---not really, because simply all the rhetoric/worthless slogans has gotten her thus far.

    Calling her an "average citizen" does a disservices to average American Citizens.

  • @patriot473 Since you didn't say anything about it being wrong for Elites to achieve high ranks in the Military or to run the Private Sector, I assume you simply hate the Gov and want it to be run by morons so you will always have a reason to despise it?

  • @patriot473

    Also, your point about "individualism over collectivism" is a false point, ya know, since we are a Democratic Republic with a wide variety of...dare I say, self-inspired Socialistic responsibilities to each other.

  • @willdrake1 Socialism is not written into the constitution.

  • @patriot473 Ofcourse not idiot and neither is Capitalism.

    Do you have a point or want to simply continue to say stupid things guised as legitimate arguments?

    To help you out, here's a dab of history:

    Thomas Jefferson advocated taxing only the rich to provide for all social services.

    Also the Constitution requires the Federal Government to promote the general welfare, something the Republican feudalists constantly ignore.

  • @willdrake1 America is founded on individualism:

    Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within the law," because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. – Thomas Jefferson

  • @patriot473 Yes. Individualism IN COPPERATION with the collective---without it, you can't have a SOCIETY.

    What do you think those "limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others" are that Jefferson is talking about?

    I think you should work on expanding your reading comp.

  • @willdrake1 It means you can get as rich as you want as long as you're not infringing on other's equal rights. How does being rich & successful do that? It does not!

  • @patriot473

    So that statement is all about wealth?

    Nothing else? No grand point?

    Really?

    Mighty bold, yet equally retarded assumption you got there.

    However, well done in proving your gross inability to understand much of the Found Father’s writings.

  • @willdrake1, what are the "Found Fathers?" You mean those who tried evading child support payments? :)~

    Sorry, willdrake1, but you don't impress me a teensy bit, posturing yourself as intelligentsia. You're just another clueless kool-aid drinker who allows his thoughts to be choreographed by lamestream media.

  • @tncdel Way to counter by using my typo to avoid the question.

    Maybe now you'll try to explain yourself instead of changing subjects?

    Care to explain how the inaccurately represent quote, of the man who wanted the rich to do more for society, means what you think it does? No?

    Whose posturing? Again, I think you just get easily intimidated.

    "Lamestream media" and you call my comments choreographed. If I didn’t hear that slogan shoveled all day on Fraud News I'd pay you a million dollars.

  • @willdrake1, you have a bad habit of seeing yourself in others. Psychologists call that "transference." And you need to be honest with yourself, asking yourself why YOU "get easily intimidated." Nothing you've said intimidates me. Some of it amuses me. But most I find boring, since it is nothing more than parroted Lib rhetoric.

  • @tncdel Again, who said "Lamestream media"?

    Who jumped into a dialogue I was having with someone else by saying "you don't impress me"---maybe I overlooked your diagnosis, perhaps transference should be added. Thanks.

    I think you should stop throwing stones and try and get a handle on your weak-at-best arguments.

  • @patriot473 Another thing. I love this b.s argument about Elites.

    If you think being "elite" is bad, I hope you start teaching your friend and family, even your kids, the wonderful nature of mediocrity and the prosperous future to be found by underachieving.

    Reps talk all the time about hard work, but then want to bash people who rise to the top.Now, I understand if you're intimidated by such people, but you can't want them and hate them at the same time...it gets confusing.

  • @willdrake1 Just remember it's "We the People" who should be in power not "We the highly educated elite career poiticians."

  • @patriot473 The problem is you don't like educated people.

    You "feel" intimidated by them. You "feel" talked down to by them.

    YOU ASSUME highly educated goes hand in hand with career politicians--which isn't true, and is infact a wide-sweeping ignorant assumption on yourown part.

    Are those same people not also apart of the "WE" in we the people...

    Since you seem to hate the rich/educated, you must now take relook at our history of Presidents/leaders and find how many you must now hate.

  • @willdrake1 The majority of Americans with average educations should be represented by average American citizens with average education. Besides anyone who's been to college knows the professors are mostly socialist-liberals.

  • @patriot473 That's what the House of *Representatives* is for. Not the Senate, and certainly not the President. Also, this anti-intellectualism of yours is really odd.

  • @patriot473 It sounds like you're all for the blind leading the blind?

    Really, all professors are socialist-liberals?

    Another powerfully ignorant assumption---which I guess isn't backed up by your nonexistent higher education, ya know, cause "learn`n" is bad.

    Man, how do you come up with this stuff...and if you truly do think this crazy &^%$ stop watching Fraud News or you’ll never sleep.

  • @willdrake1, the trouble with you is that you confuse brainwashing with "higher education." Henry Ford, who never went beyond the 5th grade, once replied, when asked why he never completed his education, despite endowing many universities,

    "Why do I need to clutter my head up with 'school-larning,' when all I need to do is ask one of the many egg-heads working for me what I want to know?"

    Unfortunately, many educated fools think they have the right answers.

  • @tncdelOh, so only your point of view is Right...I get it, the rest is "brain washing"

    You know, people suffering acute schizoaffective disorder, believe a very similar circular logic.

    About Ford, your characterization of him is completely wrong and simplified.

    Thus I will clean up your mess in the following:

  • @tncdel He began his study of machines as a child, working on watches and the such for locals.

    Later, he became an Apprentice Machinist.

    After that, he worked for the Edison company---later rising to Chief Engineer.

    After impressing Edison and getting the backing of men with money, he started the D.A.C

    He believed in “welfare capitalism”

    He paid his workers the 2008= of $111 dollars a day.

    In 1929, he worked with Stalin to build a plant at Gorky.

  • @tncdel Ford Continued:

    So, his “knowledge” was vast, but limited to a specific area.

    Which isn’t bad, but not necessarily the requirements of a Senator TODAY.

    The “business” side of the business, was handled by other men---his investors/partners; which is why he thought/made the statement you sited and which doesn’t mean he didn’t value Higher Education, what you think of as brainwashing.

  • @tncdel

    Ford continued:

    Unfortunately though, many uneducated fools think that circumstances of the past will always lead to the same answers today. I mean, things have changed alot since the days of the Model T, but you can regress all you like; however, don't take the country with you.

  • @willdrake1 Elites are not working class people who made it to the top by hard work and achieved greatness. The elites are the Harvard, Yale, and Princeton Ivey league types who become educators and career politicians who look down at the average people like trash on the roadway. Who should not be allowed to think for themselves because they have better minds that can think for us.

  • @wolfgange63 Bingo!

    I'll vote republican across the board in 2010 but I'm going to hold their feet to the fire. They better do something to truly cut the size of government.

    Republican elites look the same way down upon the people. They scoff at the notion over reducing government size and view true conservatives as "lunatics".

    I am no religious conservative. I am a fiscal conservative and am more social libertarian but I'm not a goofball like Ron Paul.

  • @wolfgange63 You know lots of people go to those schools who weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths, and even many of those who were (something they couldn't help) go on to do great things which aren't self-serving.

    More and more it seems you just hate people who YOU secretly FEEL are better than you in one way or another.

    Its sad, because for you, being better/smarter is a bad thing---and yet its them, those "WE THE PEOPLE" who it will take to fix the issues of the day.

  • @willdrake1 Yea ...you go on living in the land of Oz, I am very happy that there are people smarter than I am . I thank God there are Doctors and scientist who do their jobs and try to make the world a better place and keep us healthy.

    However when you have the so called great minds that feel they can tell us how to live and want to take the money we earn from us because they know how to spend it more wisely....No I dont want that.

    Do you want government to be your mom and dad?

  • @wolfgange63

    Who is telling you "how" to live?

    Nobody is "taking" your money.

    If u don’t like specific local/fed spending, contact your local/fed rep and tell them, because they didn’t get into office without a vote.

    You go do your homework, find me "SPECIFIC SPECIFIC SPECIFIC" spending issues you don't like---maybe don't understand because you might've been lied too and maybe we can talk; but giving another bla statement does nothing to further the discussion.

  • @willdrake1 OMG!! You are kidding right? Government takes your money at the point of a gun more or less. Did you buy your property or home? Do you think you own it? Hell no....quit paying taxes on it and see how long you keep it.

    Government takes your money and they only want more. For 30 yrs old you are not too bright if you dont see that.

    And yes they are telling us how to live. Maybe you should research that that Cap and Trade bill the Dems have tried to push.

  • @wolfgange63 "The Gov takes your money at the point of a gun, more or less"

    WOW, can we say dramatic! Do you know what those "taxes" go to?

    I don't think you really understand the bill, have you tried reading it or learning about it from sources not tied to your Fraud News inspired point of view---ya know the saying, "there's this side, that side and in-between, is the truth" which can only be found from 3rd party perspective.

  • @wolfgange63 He is a PHD elitist and can't understand why AVERAGE citizens should represent average citizens!

  • @patriot473 ok dude, you stack yourself up against those in congress. Lets see how average they are.

    1)How much you make/own vs them.2)Did you inherit it or earn it vs. them---and will their and your children have to do the same.3)Where do you live vs them.4)Your education vs them.5)Where your kids go to school vs them---if they will or won’t go to college vs. them.

    Now, if it turns out you are the same, you might find out you're just as much as THAT DIRTY WORD as they are.

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  • @patriot473 I like the "overall" of everything you said but a few things.

    1) get over the small vs big, concentrate on efficient vs nonefficient---size is relative top pop so its going to be somewhat "big" and there's nothing you can do about it.

    2) If they only serve A Term (which isn‘t Con) nothing will get done because most things take time and if the person next chosen doesn't agree with said positions, that semi-done bill/idea/argument is gone; same with the next; next; next and so on.

  • @willdrake1 On #1 A more efficient government by nature would be smaller.

    On #2 If they only have 1 term to get something done, they would be more likely to work together to pass a bill, or face getting nothing done. Term limits would force them to work together.

  • @patriot473 1) Broadly speaking, yes, but you aren't going to cut the Congress in half. Nor will you reduce Gov overall to 5 guys in a room somewhere. Based on POP its still going to be "large"

    2) I disagree, however, it seems then you'd be ok with nothing, again and again, getting done instead of something---compromise?

    Also, by your same logic of force, I would think you than agree with a Time Table for withdraw from Afgan. Why? Because it will force the Afgan Gov to work quickly.

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  • @patriot473

    1) cut equally?

    2) you ok with business/growth coming to a halt?

    3) besides being UnCon...ok

    4) They are only lobbyists/SI if they aren't fighting for YOUR cause.

    5) Have other countries call in their loans/ growth and business again halt.

    6) Its not tough love, its suicide: create civil war levels of unrest, a new class (forever poor) increase drug/alcohol/crime abuse in the nation; education would be destroyed.

    7) Do what you want, and we will need the troops.

  • @patriot473 Trust me, I get your sentiments, but society isn't a formula; it just doesn't work that way...I mean it could, if everyone was willing to go through what would happen. AND IT WOULD. And sure, maybe....maybe, things could be better---in your point of view, once out on the otherside (the few who made it), but this nation would never be the same. You wouldn't know it.

    Study crisis scenarios and you will see what I'm talking about.

  • @willdrake1 The American dream can and will be realized when we return to principles of what made this nation the greatest nation in the world. November 2nd will be a wake-up call heard around the world.

  • @willdrake1, our country's economy is a crisis scenario. And PC kool-aid drinking Libs are clueless when it comes to rectifying that crisis. Barrack Hussein claims he wants to create jobs for Americans and strengthen our economy. So why does he advocate amnesty and everything else [even a Dream Act to go to college for Chrissakes!] for illegal aliens, so they will invite all their extended family members & job-stealing amigos to come here too? Clueless? Or deliberate ploy to destroy our country?

  • @tncdel I like how you threw "Hussein" in there, good touch.

    What? Not enough time for a Hitler connection?

    The Dream Act is to protect children, who can't be blamed for being born here illegally (if they were) and who are American by all Right (according to the Con and the fact they know nothing else)---who have done fantastic in school and college, which they fairly competed to enter, from being wrongly deported.

    Why? We need them. They are apart of the best and brightest.

  • Additionally, it's not our fault that illegals brought kids along when they sneaked into our country like Japanese ninja invaders. So we have no moral obligation to provide college for them. They steal college slots our own kids should fill. And they can have the U.S. college credits transferred to schools in their own country. Surely you don't think the U. of Mex only provides degrees in "Advanced Fruit-Picking Sciences," do you? Plus they should be using their abilities in their own country.

  • @tncdel

    We have a moral obligation to them because:

    1) they are US citizens, per the Con.

    2) they are kids who did right, not wrong by this country.

    Also, we aren't "providing" them of anything; when they apply for college---maybe you don‘t know---their scores/history is pit against all-comers (since legal status is unknown at the time) and they came out on top. So they infact provide for themselves

    Your last statement is classic nativism: Ignorant.

  • @tncdel Also, unless you're willing to do the shit jobs most migrant people do for such pay, stop calling them "job-stealing" if not, you will simply continue to sound like a hating dumbass.

    Why don't you blame greedy business who hires uses them?

    No? Business can’t be wrong? Business is Holy in America?

    Rereading it again, you come off like the rednecks from South Park:

    "Dey`r tak-ing, ewr, jobs"

  • @willdrake1, you've fallen for that PC BS hook, line & sinker. They're over 20 million here now. Less than 2 percent are fruit-pickers or other migratory workers. Many do skilled blue-collar type jobs paying more than most college-grad teacher get.

    For example, one I know named Ruben works at an auto-upholstery shop making over $2,000 weekly. If they charge $1500 to reupholster car seats, he gets half and can knock it out in about 3 hours, thereby getting about $250 an hour.

  • @tncdel They get paid whatever their boss wants to pay them: no benefits, no rights; and their boss claims they don't exist on paper.

    The work-group being affected is teenagers: Fast Food; adults who work cheaper, longer and who don’t bitch about actually having to work.

  • @tncdel I think you've fallen for the Right Wing B.S hook, line and sinker: Why don't you visit any mid-low level apartment building and ask those people, 2 or more families crammed into a single house, how much money they make?

    Good luck finding many who can speak English

    Another reason why they don't make that fantasy money you think they do

    They live out of WALMART! Are you nuts?

    And you can't just point to one person, as if his “luck of the draw” is the rule and not the acceptation

  • Ruben also lives with a "girlfriend" collecting welfare & food stamps. And further conserves his pay by going around to food and clothing closets intended for our own needy & homeless. He even gets a tax-payer funded Latin group to pay for his cellphone to stay in touch with his family, who he sends over 90% of his pay to. He told me he's already bought over 5,000 acres of land and is having a "muy grande hacienda" built, and plans to retire there before he's 40.

  • You have a bad habit of putting your foot in your mouth, presupposing wrongly. Including your assumptions about me. For one thing, I am the founder of a non-profit group opposed to racism. Secondly, I'm married to a Hispanic immigrant. And she has no sympathy for illegals wanting to be given what she had to earn by many years of effort and compliance with the law on her part. Can you blame her?

  • From the L. A. Times [a partial list]

    1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( with 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. Mostly illegal aliens.

    2. 95% of murder warrants in L.A. are for illegal aliens.

    3. 75% on the most wanted list in L.A. are illegal aliens.

    4. Over 2/3 of all births in L.A. County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, paid for by taxpayers.

  • @tncdel Soo..you're saying there's a problem in LA: I would agree.

    Are you saying it should be fixed: I agree.

    1 Go after business who hires them.

    2 The actions of those who can't integrate, make it how they can---also, most of those murders are against theirown, not good, but lets not make this into they're killing American's in such numbers.

    3 Sounds like you have alot of issues with police there?

    4 Your answer is what? Put them in the street?

    5 illegal doesn’t = bad

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    5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California prisons are Mexican nationals here illegally.

    6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in L.A. County live in garages.

    7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in L.A. are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

    8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

  • @tncdel

    5 Sounds like something to be taken up with the semi-privatized Corrections Industry in the state.

    6 Sounds like something to be taken up with those who own the garages.

    7 Again, if the kids--some who might’ve been “Dreamers”---are ALL told they’re trash, this is what you get.

    8 Sounds like you have issues with those who make money off of HUD.

    Don’t get me wrong.

    I agree; all of that is some shit to deal with; but we disagree about who is REALLY to blame.

  • @willdrake1, she's got my vote. If you don't live in Delaware, don't advocate. Castle was 29 points ahead, before O' Donnell trounced him. So don't be shocked when she trounces Coons too.

  • @knightoneday Sweet, so I want you to call every advocate group, even the RIGHT ones and the Tea Party ones, who are out-of-state and tell them to get off your TV/Radio and Internet.

    With castle you could've won, but somehow the crazy got the vote.

    Sad.

  • @willdrake1, you're also too brainwashed by partisan rhetoric. To you party means more than what's best for our country or state. You're the poster child for why I say political parties should be banned by law. Thereby forcing pols to run solely on their own records and the issues. And that's why I'm an Independent.

    If you weren't so hung up on party, you'd understand why your "could've won" would have been a LOSS. Castle was a career pol, as is Coons. We want those types voted out of office.

  • @tncdel

    Again, you assume I’m a Dem.

    Really buddy, I’m a reg Ind. But thanks for once again showing your ignorance.

    The question is though, if an IND disagrees with you, does that make him/her an evil Dem by default?

    I guess in your world it does.

    Oh, and don't think I'm not waiting for your rebuttal about Ford.

    Lets see how much more b.s you can spit out.

    On the other hand, maybe you will concede you, at the least, spoke in haste.

  • @willdrake1,

    1. Your rhetoric mirrors Libs. If you have feathers like a duck, feet like a duck, and quack liker a duck, though you may call yourself an eagle, many folks are likely to "mistake" you for a duck.

    2. Your simple say-so regarding Ford merits no refutation. The many biographies I've read matched my assessment. Ford's common sense intelligence was superior to academia that you are so fond of.

  • @tncdel

    1) No, my opinion mirrors opposition to you, therefore you must try and label me. Good to know you understand its THEIR/YOUR mistake for making such assumptions.

    2) Atleast you now admit you read what you like to hear. Vacuums are safe, I agree.

    Question: If the people who wrote those "biographies" likely favor academia over common sense alone---since you call on theirown work to make your arguments "academically true" doesn't that mean you should be hating yourself?

  • @willdrake1, you have a bad habit of employing "If A equals B, then A equals C" type [ill] logic. And drawing conclusions bearing no relationship to reality doesn't make them so. Including pontificating "Atleast you now admit you read what you like to hear." Perhaps you posted that ahead of time, wishful thinking on your part, in the event that I was ever to admit something I don't do. :)~

  • @tncdelWhat? Are you nuts?

    Have you forgotten all the crap about education being lib brainwashing/better to not have it---that is unless its the "type" acceptable to you. Then you try and frame what you said about Ford using works of those, who I guess hold some kinda “academic” degree...and you don't see the issue there? How your whole point of view is: "well, its ok if I think its ok" “if doesn’t rock the boat”

    So yes, you hear/see in a vacuum.

    If not: What biographies on Ford? Authors?

  • @willdrake1, when you get a chance, go back and take time to edit what you wrote. Some of it is a bit incoherent. Maybe you were tired and needed sleep at the time.

    As for what I've read about Ford and the authors, it's been so long, and I've read several thousands of books in my life so far, that I certainly don't keep track of them. I figure what's of use to me I retain, and what's not I don't. Ford was that way too. That's one of the reasons I admired that in him. I'm not a trivia buff.

  • @tncdel Redo:

    Are you nuts?

    Have you forgotten the crap you said about almost all higher education being lib brainwashing; as if it would be better to not have it (like Ford)---that is unless its the "type" acceptable to you (any of the 1000's of books/authors you now don't seem to remember) which you use, as needed to validate your points of view..

    I find this "well, its ok if I think its ok" sort of censorship, a bit hypocritical and contradictory and the reason you hear/see in a vacuum.

  • @tncdel People complain about career politicians then they complain about inexperiece and unqualified people running. How may I ask do you reconcile the two logically. You say you want to throw those types out of office. Give me your dream list of who should be elected and let us see how many are not experienced politicians. I challenge you. Even someone like Christine O'Donnell is running for the third time so she cannot be considered new in the game.