What is Cap & Trade?

[Rorschach65]

Propaganda.  More money and government power, please.

[mrhoffame]

They ALL fail to mention with C and T crap is that there is NO "limit" to the amount of gas that is put out. After you hit a certain limit you either buy credits from another company OR you pay taxes on the excess you put out above your limit. I.E. companys will go over limits and simply pass the cost to consumers. In turn the poorer among us can't afford as much "stuff". So let's just skip all the crap and take away from poor peoples ability to consume right now..problem sovled.

[supressorgrid]

After the roads were built, what became of the road builders? Besides the fact that my 80 thousand pound truck causes a lot of road wear compared to two thousand years of pedestrian use. Or are you saying any one that cant afford the best must do without and walk?

[melto42]

Cap!

Don't trade!

[falconmoogle]

Full 1 Hour Documentary exposing the Cap and Trade agenda of the Oil Spill. Exposes the hidden agenda and the poisons that are being used to 'Clean' the spill. Spread the word!

youtube.com/watch?v=PD3PxQ-qTu­A

[harrycrowe3]

It's nothing but a liberal scam.

[Potts132]

@harrycrowe3 Yeah screw the environment who needs it anyways. Idiot

[TheCow500]

Government bull shit.

[supressorgrid]

Cap and trade punishes the producer and rewards the non producer. Companies are already forming to produce nothing, but to collect carbon credits to sell in Al gore's carbon market. The result, more cost, less supply. You will work harder and make more co2 to buy what you need, or do with out.

[therrydicule]

@supressorgrid Not that simply. You forget a few things: quality of supply - o.k, sure, you got less car produce, but if it goes from some Lada to a Mercedes quality with an engine that is good for a million KM before changing the piston? In that case, it would also change some expectation about car, and reduce the demand (playing on the price).

Technology use? With some particular set of technology, it might be cheaper to produce something.

You also forget the elasticity of supply.

[supressorgrid]

@therrydicule What supply? There is no supply when those that produce the supply are punished for doing so, while at the same time the consumers are punished for buying what little is availible. The only winners are those that do nothing and are granted the resorces through government entitlements. Makers lose, takers win.

[therrydicule]

@supressorgrid Sir, your statement is wrong. 1st: Ask teens in hi-school parking@4:30, where you could get some pot :D Drugs law are the harder punishment on the quantity supply EVER! But, there is some supply of drug. 2nd: Quantity is not all... I could buy 250 radio at $0.60...All of them are piece of crap 3rd: When you go to a dollar store, it's clear that not all is transmitted trough the price. Someone just got screw, like some land lord before the agrarian reform in the middle-ages...

[supressorgrid]

@therrydicule My statement is sound. The price of pot reflects the cost of getting it to the consumer.Legalize it and the price falls. The .60 radio is worth all you pay for it. The dollar store reflects that someone could supply something at the cost of a dollar and still make a profit.Those getting the screw with the 50 cent per hour job at least have a job.

[supressorgrid]

@therrydicule Also in my world every one can afford a Lada. In your's no one can own a Mercedes.

[therrydicule]

@supressorgrid The problem is everybody own a Lada. When a Pontiac G6 have brake rotor problems after less than 5 years :D And look the devaluation; 100km and most car lose 35% of value. Piece of...

Simply put, if one start to use more durable goods, he'll need a smaller supply of some goods: do you need to rebuilt the road in Pompeii every 30 years? No, in fact some of them are two millenniums old! If the fucking Roman where able to do that, we could do a lot better that what we are doing...

[pilot1josh]

duh..see Minnesotans for global warming-hide the decline

[Unklebillybob]

Everyone Has To Read This About Cap & Trade, Just type it in an you will see the new Costs and Restrictions

Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home

[rv36116]

Classic, they're still pushing "global warming"...

[DEEPGNOSTIC]

Cap & Trade will cripple this economy even more. Global Warning is a Psuedo science and already proven false. China has said no to Cap & Trade because they do not want they're economies weakened.

The idea that mankind is responsible for Global Warning is egotistical of us. The Sun has 90% effect on climate change not us. We're entering an ice age here people....temperatures are cooling off!!

[rickswartzentrover]

You know if we kill all of the liberals on earth think of how much CO2 we will be saving. I think every enviro-NAZI out there should do the right thing & kill themselves to save the environment. I promise to plant a tree on your grave so your death will have twice the effect. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[bobsarmy]

Cap and trade is heavy handed regulation. What does the NWF think it is?

[qerplonk]

Cap and trade sounds like a good idea.....in a vacuum, like this video portrays it. Obviously for businesses to become more efficient it costs money. That's the point -- to raise the cost of energy so we produce less.

Who do the costs get passed to? The consumer. You and me.

So then we pay more and can't buy as much, then businesses go bankrupt or overseas where there's cheaper energy.

Sounds like an awesome plan for this economy! How about let's live in the real world people.

[osu67]

The BIGGEST C02 producer is the biological process of plant decomposition in our worlds forests. What's next, cutting down the trees to eliminate this? Geesushchrist, this is bullshit

[scourgefe1nd]

if Co2 emissions are pollution, then that means we are all polluting the air and we were born pollutant. After all, we are carbon based life forms. what I dont understand, is why not make the Fed pay for it?? they are the ones ruining everything. i can tell you, its someone bigger than obama hitl....er i mean obama. :)

[USPatriot3]

Too bad the current "cap and trade" bill is not about pollution. It's about "environmental dogma". It caps co2 emissions, and to date NO governmental agency in the world, and NO scientific agency in the world classify co2 as a pollutant.

[egn83b]

Green = Greed

Global warming is the feeling in algores shorts pocket when there money in it.

[KARStarla]

Just out! EPA BURIED STUDIES on this whole carbon deal, check it out (just uploaded on mainstream news)

watch?v=aL9FkkDhOwg

[ubetcha13]

the last cap & trade was targeted at a few large manufacturers of petro chemicals, this bill covers every single product consumed from the water you drink to the materials your house is made from and the clothes on your back with almost limitless government regulation fees, penalties, and taxes to the manufacturers plus consumers.

Read the bill at Thomas Library of Congress.

[AtlasObjectivist]

He is correct, cap & trade is not complex. You have money, the government will use this radical socialist vehicle to take it from you. End of story.

[Daddy9Long]

the guy talking in this video is take'n it in the arse... cap and trade = your gas bill is about to go up.

[jeremy8080]

this video is a joke

[jeremy8080]

I struggled deeply about whether to support the American Clean Energy and Security Act, but I finally determined that voting for it was my best hope for making it better. Earlier today I voiced my strong objections to this bill. I voted against the rule to permit this debate because of its rejection of some amendments that I thought would have improved this legislation. I'm voting yes.

[HelplessMammal]

This is going to DESTROY the middle class if it passes.

[WinChicken]

Global Warming.... Is that why I have had my heat on in my house for the past 4 days in the middle of June?

[gofucoffee]

dats wuuut beeeen tryin 2-say Win!!!

Deeez drones, Are fixn' to burrrrrrry dis shieeeaaaat! pleae ppl (A-1 dats a wrkn' stiff better wake-up)! N_O_W

[Boomer1949]

What part of Global don't you understand? Just because it's cold in your tinny neck of the Globe, doesn't mean in other places that were once very cold, frozen to be exact, the antarctic, Greenland, to name a few, aren't warmer.

[WinChicken]

Oh I see so because should we try to freeeze the whole USA since at one time we were all under ice? Have you heard about the sun? Its this big thing in the sky that gives us light and heat, on this "Sun" there are hot spots and cool spots, this has more to do with the temp of the earth. See carbon is what Animals exhale (including you) then Plants use that to grown then giving us Oxigen that we use to live. Kill our economy on something we cannt control is Socializum! Global cooling since 1999

[Boomer1949]

Give me a dam break with your over the top talking points from Alex Jones and Hannity. There are real facts, Greenland is loosing ice. In fact the northwest passage is now open and Russia, Canada and the US are fighting over the rights of passage. A couple of houses which have stood on the same bluff for decades fell into the ocean..THIS WEEK because of rising sea level!! BITE ME!!

[AtlasObjectivist]

hey boomer - Are you kidding me? Global warming..ur...um, I mean global climate change is the biggest farce perpetrated on humans thus far. It is nothing more than a huge transfer of wealth, put forth by the worlds remaining socialists.

The FACT of the matter is the earth's temperature has remained near constant since 2000, with a slight dip in temperatures. The very premise of C02 causing atmospheric temperature increases is not a proven fact

How is the weather on planet Loon today?

[WinChicken]

I have no idea who Alex Jones is and Hannity drives me nuts!

How is that prof that we are causing Global Warm...I mean Climate Change (wierd how they changed that) see the Earth has always had warming and cooling times and the truth is we are in a coolling time. Carbon leaves have been proven to follow warmer weather not the way Al Gore has been selling you on it. No matter how you feel on this the fact is that cap and trade is going to kill our country and do nothing to cool the earth

[greyantelope]

Just and other tax on working Americans hidden in the cloak of moral high ground. This is simply one more stepping stone along the path to a one world government. It would be far more effective to require government employees to car pool and reduce the number of government vehicles to serve as a laboratory for reducing unnecessary commuter consumption of petroleum products.

[AtlasObjectivist]

Complete and utter fraud perpetrated by the government (Obama administration) and the CLIMATE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

It should be an outrage by any rational person that the likes of Jeff Immelt can go on his own network and sell this crap.

Meanwhile in China.... a new coal plant comes on line every two weeks.

[KARStarla]

Al Gore and Enron cooked it up 14 years ago, even Scalise mentioned it when asking Al Gore about it, there was guilt written all over Al Gores face, its a crime syndicate, Enron schemes to rip off Americans its what it does, all the buddies are getting taken care of with the stimulouses and americans are taking it up the back end, this will destroy the middle class, get on the phone with your senators before it passes there

[Boomer1949]

This talking point about Al Gore is all over the right wing radio stations. How true it is, well you have to check your sources. As for the cost, I was in that same camp until finding out the numbers that are being put out there by the Republicans is based on an old report, decades old by the way, in which the author testified was out of date and bogas.

[ubetcha13]

Al Gores computer models were based on wrong data ignoring the real temperatures being recorded now and for the last century.

Other countries such as Australia are running away from the "global warming" crap now because it is being proven to be false and they are removing their carbon regulations as a result.

[KARStarla]

I was listening to CSPAN, take a look at what the homeowner will go through (just a small example here WORTH THE LISTEN with Scalise

watch?v=C9FX1fojAJM

Al Gore questioned by Scalise AGAIN here

watch?v=cpEcPFSEIwQ

On the internet "Enron and Cap and trade" is worth the reading as well

In my favorites out of Obamas own mouth electric will SKYROCKET and the word skyrocket is NOT over a measly $150 a year which is just over $11 a month its MUCH MUCH MORE

[dontbreaththis]

Another huge way for the government to get in your wallet!

[espada9]

Globalist bull shit!

Bush, Gore, Kerry, Juan McCain, Teleprompter Barry, ALL thieves!

[chelseachick321]

I am very skeptical about cap and trade. It sounds like another way the government can control businesses and it hurts the independant business man and puts alot of needless restriction them.

[seaplaneguy1]

This has NOTHING to do with market. Why does anybody have a "right" where some else does not. Sorry... Try actually making PGE have an open market. I can get 11 cent/kw-hr, but PGE charges up to 40 cents.  What gives with that? Free market...? NOT. Remove the undue advantage that the utility company has. Divide power generation and line transmission into two different business. PGE takes that 40 cents and compete against me...Sorry, that in just criminal at best. Wake up. Cap = junk

[ATLJ12]

China will continue to build coal power and supply affordable energy to build their economy. We will not be able to compete in a global economy with cap and trade, unless there is an environmental tariff placed on imported goods.

[couchbeetle]

Agreed but don't try to convince any of the Obama administration of that.

[gizmosells]

Stalin would roll over in his grave at cap and trade. This is 21st century fascism with cap and trade. Will call my congreessman or woman to prevent any cap and tax scams on the uninformed public.

[waiting2retire73]

And what about China & India ... the 2 biggest polluters on our planet?

This is Big Brother Propaganda asking themselves, so how next can we screw the little guy? ...

So, we have the NOBAMA supporters to thank for this too...why don't they personally voluntarily pay more taxes?

Taxed

Enough

Already

[couchbeetle]

Obama supporters won't voluntarily pay more taxes! they are still waiting for Barack to "Spread the wealth around" so he can pay their mortgage and put gas in their cars. Remember it's your fault and my fault that the lower income people in this country dropped out of school, or got pregnant when they were fifteen, or never tried to have any employable skills.

Remember all of us middle class to upper middle class that worked for it, well now its our job to help those who won't work COMRADE

[chumlee333]

propaganda at it's finest!

[Lufkin139]

who decides how much carbon there is from a source?

[nadradt]

great. bush sr is a lefty, and now obama? we're screwed.

[seaplaneguy1]

One party system....like GM...Buick or Pontiac...same company...different brands.  Bush sr sr (granddad) funded Hitler...95% of congress are criminals. It is time to take the garbage out...

[vllmer]

I understand they tax sheep in New Zealand for passing methane gas. Bureaucrats must love this program, as they will likely run with it and never stop, to control people cradle to grave. Get ready for subsistence living standards.

How much is it going to cost us, I don't trust the estimates that are being put out with the line, "it won't be so bad..."

[anrather]

global warming is not a "fraudulent claim".

you guys, america is a capitalist nation. to halt climate change americans need to make decisions that benefit the environment rather than their own businesses; that trade off often results in less profit. so, why would the govt adhere to a "fraudulent claim", instate taxes, and introduce legislation that protects the environment but infringes on our ability to own lucrative businesses if global warming wasn't 1) real and 2) a threat to our country?

[nourbutwatmi]

anrather: Cap and Trade is nothing more than a means for the Liberals in Washington to impose a huge tax on all of us. It won't improve the environment, but it will pad the pockets of our "so called" Reps in Washington. Haven't you noticed the only thing on their agenda these days is to tax and spend our children and grandchildren into second class citizenship. Obama's promise that taxes won't be raised if you make less than $250,000 is pure bullshit and his Cap & Trade proposal proves it.

[couchbeetle]

Anrather, show me proof that global warming is real. The same people who are telling me that I need to care about global warming told me when I was in 6th grade that the rain forest would be gone before I graduated high school. How about the hole in the ozone layer that was going to kills us all?----And another thing, its not 'The Government' that wants to do this, it is certain politicians. Why would Al Gore and his friends want to do this?-Greed. He stands to make huge profit.

[buddymac201]

when people start getting taxed to exhale, then they might realize what is going on. i mean the pure ignorance an uneducated people that are fooled by this is amazing. the press should be ashamed for the way they are in bed with the govt

[rhosey001]

300 scientists are suing the US because of the fact that global warming is a fraudulent claim 90 of them are PHDs.

[gsuitter]

CO2 is only less then a fraction of one percent of green house gases. Water vapor makes up over 90% of green house gases. Perhaps we should be attacking water vapor instead of CO2.

A neighboring community is doing their part to fight global warming. They put a "fart tax" on each head of cattle. That will sure help save the planet.

Green is good, conservation is good but the man made global warming theory is pure junk science that anyone with an open mind can see.

[daveh69]

This is NOT a proven technology and Global Warming is NOT proven. We need to fight this junk or we will all suffer