Couple quizzed by police for criticising 'gay rights'

[trevortrevortsr2]

This report is not factualy true the couple made a series of calls that were increasingly demanding and demeaning - people can and should be able to celebrate their religious beliefs but its not a licence to intimidate and bully others into their way of thinking - sadly some religious people have taken an anti gay stance as a token of their piety - love is an emotion not bitch fight

[hawkertruffelsnout]

hate speech is hate speech any way you cut it

keep your homophobia to your self's

[jake2296100]

@candiceevans1 Okay, fair enough. I don't pretend to know anything about the Bible, I've never personally read it. I'm sorry if I offended you. So God hates sin and not homosexuality? Okay then, so what's the problem here with homosexuality because it's definately not a sin. It's perfectly normal to have an attraction towards another human no matter what sex.

[eVVVVV]

Like religion itself... this video presentation is one sided. We didn't hear all of the evidence in question. No specific details of what was said. So all this message amounts to is propaganda.

What this couple experienced from the police is just a tiny and brief taste of what gays had to suffer from Religion, Law, Police and Community, some of it deadly, but all well within living memory and for centuries before. By comparison this couple received the gentlest touch of a feather!

[Clemburke1111]

@candiceevans1 Mrs. Jane Filler had her son who was our age find out who was and who wast not gay, This is not a bullshit story & it changed my life forever. I grew up on he space coast and that was something that just did not happen in that liberal area.

[FilmsReView]

I love these clips, not a word from the council rep, and not a second of the audio in question. I assume the conversation was recorded, yet we don't get to hear it. We just hear from a 'loving older couple' who claim their innocence, yet we don't get to hear from the police or the MP that was offended. Quite silly really.

[lanksareit]

Let's be free to disagree -- NO, a line has been drawn by the law. Just STOP hating people.

[Shoots1978]

@lanksareit Hey get out of the road there's a big truck coming!" Oh never mind that is a hateful thing to say, I might offend you. So I'll ignore warning you, and let you get run over. The big truck by the way is the Lord Himself, and He is the Law, coming to arrest those who broken the Law, His law. Have you ever lied, stolen, blasphemed His name, coveted in your mind someone else's things, dishonored your parents? Repent and believe in Jesus today, before it's too late.

[Empep12]

@Shoots1978

Humans are perfect. We have no savior. We have no need for one.

Racist sexist bigots wrote the bible.

And also... do you warn people about eating shellfish? And mixing fabrics? And all the other things Lev. says is an "abomination"?

[Shoots1978]

@Empep12 OK then if your perfect then don't worry about anything. You've never done anything wrong. I would love to meet you then, to see my first perfect person. Wow, that is awesom! Eating shellfish, am I Jewish living in that time? Do we not have the right tools for cooking this food now? Eating food never made a person dirty. Jesus even said that, we are already dirty to a holy God. And just because you don't get your way in life means you have to go around acting like a child.

[Empep12]

@Shoots1978 I'm not perfect, relative to other humans. All humans are perfect, not just me. ;)

And... eating figs will get you cursed. Eating shellfish would get you killed. Have you ever ever READ the bible?

If eating shellfish isn't bad anymore, then neither is being gay. It's as simple and complex as that.

[Shoots1978]

@Empep12 You can be gay if you want too, it's your choice. Or anyone. Also a person can murder, lie, steal, commit adultery, etc. Be warned there's consequences to your actions. Being gay or an adulterer, or even a fornicator has consequences, STD's, Aids. And murder has one too, death. So go ahead do what you want, enjoy your life. Know this you will have to stand before the Lord God who is Jesus and give an account, would you like a public defender or defend yourself?

[mr25Nathaniel]

The lady in this said that it was an horrific hour with the police, i would like to pose to her the question - how would you like to spend your whole life being persecuited for who you are - that is horrific my dear, you chose your religion homosexuals didnt choose who they fell in love with!

[mr25Nathaniel]

Wow, every one gets quite upset about this. I think that it is well proven that Christians and any other faith for that matter have made a business out of contorting their religion to suit what they want to dictate as truth. they also said the world was falt you know!!! move on !

[TVClassicsATYuToob]

@alfhatesgaycunts

My Christian brothers and sisters...i hold no grudge against you,

I bet you were trying to anger me...i'm not angry just sad for your soul and everyone who speaks badly about our Lord,

May God have mercy on you and all homosexuals.

Goodbye..i'm not going to reply again even if you abuse me,laugh at me or ignore me...whatever u do.

U take care :-)

[thecommercialedge]

@TVClassicsATYuToob "i hold no grudge against you,"

Liar. You hold moral grudge against acts that you should have no business sticking your nose into in the first place.

The next time you shoot your mouth off to people about what they do sexually, remember that the Bible says sex is for procreation, so if you EVER have any sexual experiences not related to making babies, you are sinning.

Take care :-)

[TVClassicsATYuToob]

@alfhatesgaycunts

Because as Christians we are not allowed by God's law to take matters into our own hands...we are taught to love and forgive although homosexuality is a grave sin in the eyes of the Lord all we can do is try to persuade them to change their ways if they don't listen then we leave them be and not speak bad of them even though they constantly blaspheme God in terrible ways..but we as Christians have to turn the other cheek when abused just as u yourself abused my Christian..

[jake2296100]

@TVClassicsATYuToob It's strange how not all Christians interpret the Bible in this way. If God was all-loving, as Christians claim he is, then why would he hate homosexuals (and then send people to SUFFER in hell). I don't know your definition of 'all-loving' but that's certainly not how I see the term.

You couldn't even comprehend the amount of times I have had to comfort my brother. He is physically and verbally abused by some ignorant Christians at his school just because of his sexuality.

[minilik01]

@jake2296100

No where in the bible does it say that god is all loving. Infact, he says there are people he hates.

[TVClassicsATYuToob]

I wish gay people would stop hating Christianity and saying that Christian's hate gays....that is so NOT true..Christians dont hate gays..they hate the sin committed by gays.

Other haters of gays are Athiests,Muslims,Jews and whatever other faith.

But Christians don't unless they are the ones who don't follow the bible properly,Christians are taught to love and respect everyone...those "so called" Christians who hate people...are not real Christians,but hypocrites.

[TVClassicsATYuToob]

@thecommercialedge

B4 u shoot your mouth off do some research first and you'll see how very very mistaken you are.

take care :-)

[thecommercialedge]

@TVClassicsATYuToob Excuse me but I had 20 years experience with Christians..so my 'research' is first-hand experience with how hypocritical some of these religious people can be.

I'm taking care, that's for certain. I suggest you attempt to prove how "mistaken" I am before. If you can.....

[MrDrawingguy]

I have no problem with gay people. Live and let live I say. That said, I have a huge problem with law enforcement threatening to imprison those who do have said problem. Rather frightening scenario, brings to mind 1940 Germany....

[TheNaturalSpark2]

Fags suck.

[kh739]

@TheNaturalSpark2

That statement is both true and could be called "offensive", odd how that works out. We're both lucky to live in the US and not England where these people live or we would get a visit from the "reeducation" police. I guess when the citizens don't have guns and the police don't have guns and the criminals do guns it's much easier to go after these "diversity criminals" than real criminals.

[AllAboutLOVEatYuToob]

I don't support either side in this situation....

Homopbobes should keep their mouth shut and gays should stop being so melodramatic.

[thecommercialedge]

@AllAboutLOVEatYuToob agreed.

[AllAboutLOVEatYuToob]

@thecommercialedge

Thank you :-)

[Jewgirl666]

They should have gone to jail for opposing Jewish supremacy.

[petestrat07]

Time for a new philosophy. One that is built on love and not hate. Time to evolve again cuz there is no more opposable thumbs in the pipeline.

[trevortrevortsr2]

Its no good bitching that your hard done to when you set out to demean others

[NeptuneSeaking]

I love how the anti gay videos recieve significantly less videos than the pro gay videos. Go gay people, you rule for being yourselves.

[shenzhenprostitute]

user name largest85 is a homosexual rapist .... he has raped me and several other men from You Tube .. I have DEFINITE PROOF of that

[oldmoonshiner]

that's the way they do it, make it so you can not even think differently without them claiming you are homophobic.

[scampbell735]

People who judge others need to check themselves. Live and let live guys!

[TheRankineFiles]

Joe and Helen Roberts :

The couple accused their council of "Pandering" to minority groups. They also condemned the council for promoting equality. Mr Roberts also added that "" If Gay people made the decision not to think Gay, they would not act Gay "". Council staff alerted the Police After receiving both an "inappropriate" letter and telephone call.

@christianorguk : An elaboration of your current "description" would've been helpful. There was more to it than just "criticised a project" !

[SirWinstonChurchill]

@guitdude09

I was born in Buckinghamshire... fuck off tosser...

[realdrummer110]

@guitdude09 Here is that Misogynist uproar again!!!!

" i dont sit around hating people like you because you like fucking pigs on the bar at the local pub"

LOL. That's exactly what you do...

Why do you pretend that you are bi? You are a straight up fag.. Can't you just be honest about who you are? That you hate your life.???

[SirWinstonChurchill]

@guitdude09

I live in the USA... I'm an atheist also... you fuckin' faggot...

Let the British police chew on that...

[SirWinstonChurchill]

The radical faggots need to be smacked down all over the world...

Russians in Moscow are fed up with them... Uganda wants to give them the death penalty... It is illegal in Jamaica...

I'm tired of those people here in the USA.

Resistance to the radical faggot lobby is not exclusive to any racial or religious group. We need to end this garbage and force the politicians to stop permitting them so much influence in politics.

[versitleboynow]

#1 - This video was posted by the "Christian Institute", and notice how there's ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION of what was written in the pamphlet this couple was distributing.

#2 - A hate crime is defined as any action (written, verbal, physical) that invokes and/or causes harm (physical or emotional) to a specific group. The fact that police considered this a possible hate crime, should tell you that SOMETHING very offensive was written in that pamphlet.

[versitleboynow]

Fagwatch2011, you see ONLY what works for you. #1 - This video was posted by the "Christian Institute", and notice how there's ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION of what was written in the pamphlet this couple was distributing. #2 - A hate crime is defined as any action (written, verbal, physical) that invokes and/or causes harm (physical or emotional) to a specific group. The fact that police considered this a possible hate crime, should tell you that SOMETHING very offensive was written in that pamphlet.

[versitleboynow]

@Fagwatch2011, again you seem to see and believe what you WANT to see and believe. This video was posted by the "Christian Institute". Notice how it CONVENIENTLY fails to mention WHAT was written in this pamphlet that this couple wanted to leave on PUBLIC/GOVERNMENT property. Again, nice way to try and twist the facts.

[Atheistagainstbigot]

It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the Church's pastors wherever it occurs -Benedict XVI

[GospelTruth37059]

MAy Gods warrior angels be encamped about this home in Jesus name amen!

[derekxnl]

It's ironic. Christians don't like it when people get involved in their personal lives and bother them because of their beliefs. But for some reason Christians find it totally justified to get involved in gays' personal lives and persecute them because of their sexuality. Why the double standard? Is it because most Christians are hypocrites? Yeah, probably. Anyway, nobody should ever be punished or persecuted for their beliefs unless they're inciting violence or crime.

[rollindts44]

i dont know how to put this lightly but if you think all homosexuals are perverts then fuck you

[PeteGeeza86]

They should be allowed to air their views,but people should be allowed to say they disagree.

[Clemburke1111]

Here is a catch though in 1974 a christian couple went around in my neighborhood outting young teens to their parents,,should that have beenuse agaist them? Especially when two committed suicide.

[karuspery]

Vote BNP people.

[osummuso]

@karuspery See you're youtube account got closed.

Haw! Haw! Haw!

[gaiopescatore]

It was ridiculous that the police should harass this couple for their folly. Why the hell didn't the council employee who took their call just tell them that it wasn't too late for them to get a life, put the telephone down and leave it at that?

[shamraig]

I do love plebian reasoning.

[0240327502485]

Finally the police are doing something right now for once!

For all you haters, get the fuck out of the UK if you feel threatened by the idea of universal rights for all citizens.

[lolnchips1337]

What a couple of fat-faced ugly fucking cunts. As if I needed anymore proof that God doesn't exist.

[karuspery]

You prove the existance of evil.

[lolnchips1337]

Really? Do explain, please.

[karuspery]

You're gay=pervert=evil=proof of evil.

God=straight=ban on perversion.

But don't worry, you could repent if you choose.

[lolnchips1337]

Best thing is, I'm not even gay.

You're a fundamentalist Christian=idiotic bigot=disproof of God and proof of human misconception/ Evil.

God=non-existant=freedom, true freedom.

And, sorry, but repent to whom? :)

[karuspery]

Ok,the then you're the worst kind.

[lolnchips1337]

Haha, great comeback. Continue wasting your life with a meaningless religion, bigotism and racism (I took the time to look at your horrible profile page)- you'll never amount to anything and, thankfully, will never have majority influence over anyone else.

[karuspery]

Never aspired to influence any majority/minority. just stating my stupid little meaningless argument that means nothing and will amount to nothing EXCEPT you keep hassling me and antagonising me. Just go away and leave me to my pathetic mumbling.

[lolnchips1337]

Ok, sure. Bye.

[karuspery]

Thank you!

Freedom of speech survives again.

[idaman12345]

gays arent evil or perverted

god = not real = fictional

[MyStaticAge]

'gay rights'

[karuspery]

Gay Wrong!

[osummuso]

You failed the internet!

[karuspery]

You failed yourself!

[magirecords2004]

Perverts have rights?

What's next pedos?

[idaman12345]

by perverts do you mean gays?

[karuspery]

No, decent,good living people that obey the Law of God.

[idaman12345]

decent good living people know god does not exist

[wesharris6]

Decent people don't speak in absolutes.

You sir aren't decent.

[osummuso]

You know what?

Gay people are human beings!

When Christians start using their alledged faith, to feel above and behave below any acceptable level of humanity, they become an ignorant sub-species.

[redmattuk]

Where do you get the impression that we have such a superiority complex? It seems a little unfounded.

[osummuso]

Where?

The school of life my friend.

I do voluntary care work for a terminally ill Gay Man.

He's not terminally ill, because of his sexuality.

He's terminally ill because his father served queen and country and was exposed to radiation on Xmas island, resulting in mutated genes being passed on to his children.

Despite this, my Gay charge served this country in Bosnia and Kosovo during his own military career of 22 years.

Defending your right, to stick up stupid posters.

[redmattuk]

You're not liking your emotive story to my question in any useful way, what you've said here seems completely moot.

[osummuso]

....because you are ignorant, bigoted and hateful.

[redmattuk]

And which comment that I made do you get that from?

[redmattuk]

@osummuso What you just said has nothing to do with my question

[osummuso]

@redmattuk Your question probably has nothing to do with the video then.

Ask it again?

My comments are focussed on the video, not your comments.

[osummuso]

@redmattuk Prety dumb of you, as I can simply paste in the comment you removed verbatim "@osummuso You think the fact that you know a dying gay guy vindicates your position. You're a goon."

I simply explained part of the background that makes up my perspective to clarify your query.

You show your lack of perspective and indeed, human value with every post.

Remember, it is better to be thought a fool and remain silent, than open your mouth and prove it to be true!

[redmattuk]

@osummuso I removed the comment because God convicted me that it was sinful, that shows my true colours, not the removed comment. You just don't understand Christians at all.

[osummuso]

@redmattuk You're probably right.

Did God "convict" you by email, or was it Skype?

'Holier than thou' much?

[osummuso]

@redmattuk Anyway's, relating to what you were attempting to 'cherry pick', I don't just "know" a dying Gay guy, I do care work for him and he is my friend.

You just don't understand 'humanity' very well!

Now fuck off and pray yourself to death!

[karuspery]

Penis and vagina? Mmmmmm. Penis and anus?Mmmmmmm.

Anus and shit?Mmmmmm

Vagina and semen?mmmmm

Have hole,will put it in. Why, because they are sickos.

[karuspery]

Yes they are but their behaviour is wrong!

Witch doctors that sacrifice little children in Africa are human beings too.

[osummuso]

Did you just equate Homosexuals to murderers?

[karuspery]

Sin is sin. Still get to the same afterlife. Either or,makes no difference. Lier,thief,murderer,pervert,ad­ulterer-whatever,sin is sin.

Accept it or reject it.Your choice.Your responsibility but it will affect my environment too,not just yours.

[osummuso]

The point made in this clip really, is that a deemed sin, is not deemed as a crime.

So no matter how much you wish it were otherwise, misinterpreted scripture has no significant bearing on the 'real world', for which all us sane people are grateful.

[colli274]

I wish the United States would crack down on hate crime laws a lot more. I'm homosexual and I can't even go out in public with out overhearing people joke about homosexuality or using it as an insult. People are ignorant, and after all the discrimination of people in the U.S. history and finally becoming equals (women, African-Americans, etc.), once homosexuals are given their civil rights, then this will truly be a free country.

[osummuso]

Ignore them for long enough and they'll eventually be bred out of the gene pool.

They are 'of a time'.

It'll take another couple of centuries, but eventually the gradual process of change will be complete.

At least, I hope there comes a point where we can all just live and let live.

[skatetreeslim]

God tells us in His word these days will come to pass, Soddom and Gomorrah was bad but there;s a worse day coming and they'll have to answer to God before they receive their fate.Over 2,000 years they crucified Jesus now it's His turn to judge and it won't be too long the way the His world is full of evil today.

[pastordereksmi]

Couldn't have put it more succinctly.

[fanagot]

Most Christian organisations use the Bible to promote the belief that God commanded "homosexuals to be put to death". No wonder people like these are getting in trouble.

[redmattuk]

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[redmattuk]

So what your saying is "most Christian organisations" go against Jesus' teaching in Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43 in favour of an Old Testament civil law for pre-messiah Israel?

[jacquisyt]

The most important thing is what the Bible says: I Corinthians 6:9-11

[gaiopescatore]

The police should never have been involved in this at all. Anti-gay bigots should have the freedom to air their views to their hearts content as long as they dont incite violence, just as we should have the right to tell them what pillocks they are.

The council employee should simply have told them to take a running jump.

[osummuso]

@gaiopescatore Yes, it should.

They shoulld be in jail.

Making kids kill themselves by any means is neither the work of any self respectable adult, let alone a self professed christian!

It's manslaughter.

[QueerAsFaith]

I live in the states, so I'm not familiar with your laws there, but here hate crimes only protect you if things come to physical violence, but it protects gays and religion, and in my case I am a gay christian, and I don't think you did anything wrong by asking a question of if you could put up literature.

[Im4hm]

This is about to change. Check out the new hate crimes bill. It is being buried in the Defense bill. Hates Crimes Bill S909 to be voted on this week.

[EsteemHisWord]

people are calling for tolerance, but it is only tolerance for what is evil, satan has decieved people into believing that wrong is right and right is wrong. where is the tolerance for Christianity, they are trying to kick God out of everything in the united states, and we wonder why the economy is messed up and we expect "God to bless us. we are in the last days for sure. Look up our redemption is closer then we dreamed.

[idaman12345]

well yeah why should normal sane people have to believe in a fictional creature called "god"

[EsteemHisWord]

because your not all thier if you dont believe in the existence of God, as their is more evidence for Gods existence then thier is that he doesnt exist, you just need to apply the laws of logic.

[imnotbadjustcrazy]

It seems equal rights doesn't extent to the right of freedom of religion or expressing the views that are orthadox and common within Churches, inc. the State Church of this country. Surely it's hypocrisy for people to continually bang on about the need for people to respect diverse and differing views from their own (e.g. homosexuality),and yet don't seem prepared to return the compliment when it comes to Christianity and it's beliefs, regardless of whether or not you agree with those beliefs??

[imnotbadjustcrazy]

I see a few people have chosen to dislike this comment, and yet no one seems to have any answer to it? I'm genuinely interested, so please, share why you dislike and how you see this situation...I'm not looking to be divisive or spiteful, I'm hoping for constructive discussion on this, so please, share your views, either way.

[deanduke27]

Hi there -

99% of the time, equal rights certainly does extend to the free expression of religion. What exactly is the average Christian not allowed to do that everyone else can? Cases like the one above are very rare, hence the amount of coverage and the fact that it is still dwelled on several years later, and the Roberts recieved an apology and fat compensation cheque, a fact likely left out of the CIs vid because it would negate the 'persecution' angle.

[amsterdammed71]

I respect you too much as a person to respect your ludicrous beliefs.

We do not respect beliefs - we respect people. The reason why superstitious beliefs come in for more than their fair share of ridicule - as Jesus warned in Matt 5:11 - is that they are based on no evidence. If you claim to know what the supposed creator of the universe thinks about my sleeping arrangements - you had better explain how you know this information. Otherwise, you're out of the argument.

[TheBikercat]

Whatever happened to free speech? If you want to know who holds the power in any society, ask yourself whom you're not allowed to criticise. Christians are given terrible portrayals in the media, and consistently "turn the other cheek". But just try saying you don't agree with a council's equality program and you're threatened with jail.

[amsterdammed71]

While the beliefs of these people are ridiculous and possibly offensive, the police went too far. They will take any opportunity to play the 'poor persecuted me' card they can.

[deanduke27]

No mention either of the £10.000 compensation they were awarded by the courts for the incident...

[deanduke27]

Stupid that the police went round, but notice how the Roberts only talk about their phone call to the council and not the letter in which they DID flat out object to the civil partnership booklets ("If gay people made the decision not to think gay, they would not act gay... whatever they are giving their attention to will eventually mould them into its image.") and accuse the council of 'pandering to minorities'.

Be free to disagree? Not if these two had their way.