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  • @soysie DAMN you are so right! Another thing is that we really have been spending money we don't really have. No gold or nothing valuable to back it up with. It is literally freaking paper!

  • Excuse me, but you're talking out your ass. Im very well aware of the spending fraud all around the globe.

    This was a vid response specifically addressing the Haitian issue.

  • You keep saying that they shouldnt be helped by USA because Haiti hasnt done something for the USA first

    Same arguement could have been made in reverse.

    Someone has to go first.

    But I do agree with one point, charity should be optional or its not charity at all.

  • Haiti has done something to the US first, and what they do isn't good. See the travel advisories for tourists (in relation to crimes) put out by the State Department if you dont believe it.

  • cont...The other side of the landmass (Hispaniola) gets the goods. Are you completely stupid or something?

  • Haiti has been an independent nation since 1804. Are you kidding me? How long does it take to get your act together? Theyve had 206 years.

  • @2SecSee4u - Haiti is being exploited by Hispanola under Colonialism. That has nothing to do with independence you thick fuck. The sovereignty is an economic one. Have you ever taken a Geography class? a History class? Have you been to school at all? The largest portion of that Island is in control of Haiti's resources. This leaves them in no better shape than slaves. They have never been able to crawl out from under it. What a miserable bigot you are.

  • Hispaniola is the name of the island, not the name of any country. On the island of Hispaniola you have 2 countries, Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Perhaps you should return to school.

  • What the fuck does it matter what they've done for us? Are you serious? The Hatians are victims of Colonialism, wherein they do all the work and

  • Haitians WERE the victims of colonialism; over 200 years ago.

  • @2SecSee4u - And they still are. Read a book ffs.

  • You might have meant to say they were victims of exploitation, but I would disagree with that as well though.

    When they are a sovereign nation, the only way they could be exploited is if they let someone do it. But really, what have they got to exploit anyway? Nothing, because theyve never done anything with themselves in the first place, except constantly take for international aid, even before the quake.

  • @2SecSee4u - You know it doesn't matter anyway. The point is, you fail to understand that these people have been in an enforced state of poverty because of corrupt government, exploitation and political manipulation. Now they need our help and if we claim to be the leaders of the free world we need to step up and prove it.

  • @2SecSee4u (a.k.a. RV),

    If you read history, asshole, you'd have read that when the Haitians beat the french in 1805, France retaliated by putting a HUGE monetary fine that could never be paid and enlisting America's assistance in enforcing it. Look at the history of US interventions in Haiti, all for the purpose of avenging the Haitian's victory over the French pigs & for having justifiably killed A LOT of french Dickless White Fucks.

  • nice voice changer RVISM2. lol! are you in hiding from the Massive Pwnage you received from TAA and Fakesagan.

    RV is a White nationalist, he hates black people.

  • Thats a joke right

  • asshole

  • The shortest comment thus far, but the most accurate.

  • LMAO. so why are you in hiding?

    Also rocky dennis aka inmendham appears to be destroying your arguments..with ease.

    RV, just stick your little corner of youtube, it's safer. that way you wont face utter humiliation like last year.

  • Inmendham destroys nothing. Any simpleton could figure that out. Since you havent figured that out, I guess you're not any better then a simpleton. That makes you an ignoramus.

    If inmendham has made any more vids, perhaps he should be smart enough to attach them. If he hasnt, I havent paid him any attention since the last time he put his foot in his mouth. A regular occurence for him.

  • Seriously? You think we should let people who are opressed by a shitty government just die and starve, that's cool. You know that by giving 100 milion dollars the president literally took 30 something cents per citizen? Grow up douche.

  • If thats the best argument you can pose, then its a failure. It does not address the points of corruption in charities. It does not address the fact that this aid is forced upon the American populous, thus more corruption. It does not address the fact that Haiti is not a friendly nation towards the US.

  • @2SecSee4u

    Well excuse me, I got tired of listening to you whine. And besides, why does my argument fail If I only adress one of your points?

    Whatever, the aid is forced, okay yes people willingly give their taxes to the governent they willingly chose to make decisions for them. Willignly. They gave the governent the power to use taxes how they see fit.

    So what Haiti isn't friendly? I would help an injured anti social asshole the same a woud help my injured best friend. You wouldn't?

  • Your argument fails because you posed no argument. You blatantly admitted the aid given to Haiti was forced on the US people.

    You would help an enemy as quickly as you would help a friend? I certainly wouldnt. Why help someone whos going to turn around and potentially do you harm? I know, I know, they might not do you harm. Will that be your argument? Well, I learn from history, and Im not willing to give the chances you may want to give.

  • @2SecSee4u

    And your argument fails because blatantly ignored how I justified it?

    Forced onto US people. No, it was taken form tax money that the US people could have rallied together and decided not to give because its going towards things they don't want to pay for.

    Who said Haiti was an enemy? You think haiti is an enemy of america now?

    I guess your (what I would call paranoid) caution is understandable. But subjective, there's no reason to argue over that.

  • You justified nothing in legal terms, only in your feel good terms. You think it feels good to place other people in a position to foot the bill.

    You know nothing of corruption.

    As far as Haiti being an enemy, I take a position of either friend or foe. No shades of grey. That being the case, you tell me what has Haiti done good for the US in all of their existence.

  • Since when are legal terms some sort of golden moral standard? Of course, corruption flies right over my head.

    Dude, are you freaking serious? No shades of grey? That's stupid, I'm sorry, but neutrality exists, whether you want to hate it or not.

  • Third world country or not, those are people over there. Their lives are just as valuable as American lives. If it costs America some money to help save lives and relieve suffering, so be it.

  • If charity becomes obligatory, then you condone slavery. If the US President pledges money that isnt his to pledge, then hes forcing his charity on the populous. Try to sugar coat it as much as you like, but thats the reality of it.

  • @FidesExerc

    Slippery slope argument is a fallacy.

  • Hahaha, slavery. Yeah, okay. You go ahead and keep thinking that. I guess you think taxes in general are a form of slavery, too. After all, the President is using YOUR money.

  • Make no mistake about it, taxes ARE a form of slavery when theres corruption in the spending.

  • So...helping suffering people in a third world country is corrupt?

    Sorry, but I can't agree with that.

  • @ TheAntiBella

    No one said that helping people that are suffering is corrupt, but I will say I suspect corruption in corporate charities. You also seem to deliberately dodge the point of obliged aid. Charity should be voluntary, and the US government has no business being in the business of charity when its ultimately detrimental to the ones their supposed to be representing.

  • You implied it. If the government is using our taxes to help people that are suffering, then I have no problem with that. I didn't dodge the point. I simply pointed out that if obliged aid was "slavery," then so are all taxes--then you said they were slavery if they were corrupt. And you clearly think using tax money to help people is corrupt. I can't agree with that.

  • Demonstrate the constitutional authority the US president has to give aid to a country we have no treaties with? The balls in your court. When you're unable to answer, then you'll have to acknowledge its corruption.

    Once again, charity should be voluntary and not mandated.

    If congress chooses to act on this, thats a different story. But in this case the President pledged something that was not within his authority to do.

  • Constitutional authority isn't the issue here for me--it's the fact that there are people dying and suffering, and we can help them. I really couldn't give a fuck if you think it's corrupt or unconstitutional for the President to pledge money to help people in need.

  • Like I said, people are suffering, theres no dispute to that. The fact that you dont care what is or isnt constitutional is your problem. You simply support a government that makes up the rules as they go.

    I dont support such a government.

  • @2SecSee4u Though I may disagree with some of your statements. some of them do right true regardless. We have poor people here in this country yet we keep trying to save people in others. We push our military to far and to thin. We have gangs and drug lords that can easily be taken out with the might of the army! We let assholes get away with shit cause we don't want to step on their rights and we spend money we don't have. Am i right in some of these things?

  • @2SecSee4u,

    Suffering?? LOL!

    Boy, you AIN'T seen suffering until you get to see America & Europe in the next 20-40 years when White faggots become the MINORITY.

    THEN you'll know what SUFFERING is, LMFAO!!!!

    Eugene Terreblanche simply recieved an early "cash advance" on what the remainder of White pussies are going to get in the future.

    THERE WILL NEVER BE A WHITE HOMELAND.

    NOT EVER.

    NOT ANYWHERE.

  • Boo!  Hiss!

  • Fuck... sounds like you hate just about everybody.

  • You get a thumbs up for such an enlightened comment.

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