Re: TerraRising - How Lee Doren Really Works

[haibane13]

What the hell is this video about ? Seriously

[DecKrash]

@haibane13 Something that happened awhile back with a guy on YouTube called "howtheworldworks" and some moronic statements he was making.

[samiga36]

"...this guy really needs to just shut up..."

"...you should not even be talking..."

Yeah, that is promoting freedom of speech, isn't it? The heart of these statements are, if you don't agree with [this guy's side of the argument] you should not be allowed to express your opinion. You [as a "right-winger"] should only listen, your opinion is wrong and you should just listen.

Freedom of speech is for everyone, even those with poorly thought out opinions.

[bl4h1]

Im atheist and a right winger. Leftists dont run on facts and logic, they run on feelings. Mostly feelings of superiority and ego. its a religion

[tubaboy71]

Liberals never let things like facts get in the way..infact they pay people to go over and change facts LOL. I get comments deleted by many many many liberal video makers.

[charlybaify]

its like big brother

[alexiproductions]

ohh convictions and opinions...

just make sure they are from the spirit and not the flesh.

[Winsteads2111]

I want to know why you think using words like "powned" and "jerk" make an intellectual rebuttal.

[4u2b1ib12]

Winsteads2111,

Those words are colloquial to this genre, of public forum. Why not just say you are a racist, and that you support HowTheWorldWorks, for his disproved allegations?

Others who did do the research, do not misrepresent fact and opinion. I would post on HTWW's page, but know my questions will be deleted. Why should I, waste my time on a fool?

Stand upwind of the lit cross, it will not get your robe, and hood sooty, plus your mind will be clear, yet not open.

Best wishes.

[lamjer68]

*sigh* Idiot.

[leonheart00]

I am not even going to bother commenting on this video. So ridiculous.

[charlybaify]

lol you technically just did, but i see what your'e saying

[leonheart00]

The Irony!!! :P hehe

[4u2b1ib12]

leonheart00,

You have the most stupid comment, on this page area. The fact that you posted is a comment. I will not click onto your homepage, do not worry.

I imagine you too, censor negative comments.

Best wishes.

[leonheart00]

Here! here! Best wishes to you too :3

My best wish of course for you, is that you learn to recognize sarcastic humor before making a dope of yourself.

[4u2b1ib12]

leonheart00,

Nice try, fail!

First you did not phrase your comment as a question? Read your words.

Second, your sentence implies sarcasm, yet not quite clear. Politics is in your future: lie, cheat, and steal. Best the best prostitute, (elected official), you can be. Have fun in the brothel of fools, (government). Oh, by the way, get good knee-pads for yourself, and lubricant for your constituents, using taxpayer dollars.

Best wishes.

[leonheart00]

My goodness, I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say. Are you capable of forming complete sentences that actually make sense?

Are you suggesting that I am a leftist politician?

[4u2b1ib12]

leonheart00,

I wrote, "politician,'' not siding with any party.

So now you have outed yourself a white-wing-conservative, goody for you.

ALL politicians are prostitutes, and Congress is a brothel of fools, mostly.

Got to you, did it not? It is not my fault that you can only read on a child-book level. Maybe it is all of the soot you inhaled from decades of attending cross lighting's. Either way you are a fellow American, and I support your right to free speech.

Best wishes.

[leonheart00]

"White-Wing" You had to be a scumbag and throw race into this didn't you? Do you have any idea how much the democrat party has kept the black man down these many years? Keeping them in a welfare cycle in projects instead of lowering taxes so everyone could start businesses regardless of race. Hell, who keeps using the race card? Dems! Even though so many black people voted for Obama because of the color of his skin and not his vision. Howard Stern even made fun of this.

[4u2b1ib12]

leonheart00,

So, you liked, "white-wing?'' Way cool! Before I go on, DecKrash, wants you to STOP pushing the panic button.

You and ilk lack the sophistication to address any issue in a civil manner. I really do not care what color you are. The issue is whether you can debate the merits of the subject matter vs. attempting to correct grammar or picking on colloquial verbiage.

Lovely rant, by the way. I will address every interesting post, since I am running out of characters.

-next.

[leonheart00]

One more thing wintroll (because you made me rage), I would have loved a capitalist black president. I am a capitalist, through and through, I don't care about anything else the republican party stands for but I wanna wake up in the morning with a dream and go out and make it happen. I wish George Foreman was our first black president, he would have grilled the fat off the budget and being a salesman he would have brought us into a Golden era! Grrr.... race race race, its all we hear.

[leonheart00]

White wing huh? Why? Because the African American culture by in large has chosen to segregate themselves from the republican party? You see, race and culture are two different things. Yet Liberals try to use demonizing tactics like that, because they are scum. A racist comment is saying Black people can jump higher than white people. A cultural comment is saying Asians eat rice. Blacks vote more socialist, why? You tell me, if you vote dem your more socialist. So you tell me.

[4u2b1ib12]

leonheart00,

Black people did not choose to segregate themselves from white culture: they were not accepted into it.

For now, I deem you ignorant. That means you do not know. It is not an insult. If you get stupid, that too is not an insult, but states you know better, but will not learn.

People jumping higher only means that cultures were in one or another social setting. e.g. riding horses in Europe to hunt, or chasing game once wounded. Genetics.

Now that I have explained,

next.

[leonheart00]

You know, I am a cultural observer, not a racist. I despise broken cultures, I think they should be fixed. I think we could all learn a lot from the Japanese too. I don't really like southern white culture, it is ignorant and gives republicans a bad name. I also don't like the lie that racism and cultural observance are the same thing. When will we wake up and just stop this crap? Think for yourself, not what some leader tells you to think. Stop confusing race and culture.

[DecKrash]

Wow. This is so amusing to see so much negativity, when all I was doing was making my thoughts on it. Please.  I've done my research on a few of the things Lee's said, while some things I've just realized were patently untrue by pure logic. So hate away, hataz.!

[leonheart00]

Why do you think socialism would benefit you? Do you think an over sized government that restricts freedom of speech is a logical path for America? Regulation is great, don't get me wrong. Socialism is inexcusable laziness unless provided for the weak or otherwise truly unfortunate. The able should work hard and build a future for themselves so that the nation can evolve,or we will be strangled into submission by others. That is nature.

[leonheart00]

With all due respect, I truly hope you see the long term implications and damage socialism will eventually cause in America. People grow very accustomed to hand outs, it becomes a God given right to people and no longer a privilege or tool for survival. Therefore socialism rarely recedes but only progresses. As this occurs, more bureaus are formed, more taxes are paid, the government grows, the people are thus controlled, we become communists. We fought years to stop this. Don't help it.

[leonheart00]

This is even worse as the media which people gather information from becomes more and more controlled by the government. In China people do not even know the truth about many oppositional situations which occurred in their communist history. Over time, people are spoon fed lies and brainwashed to accept communism. This will occur sooner rather than later in a socialist system. We have to fight it.

[DecKrash]

leonhart, stop pushing the panic button!

Let's use the healthcare bill as an example, here, since so many uninformed people are crying out, "socialism! Socialism!" Having a public option for healthcare is NOT socialism! At least not PURE socialism. Hence, the term "public OPTION." And besides, our system of government has many things that are government-run. Do you want to privatize the postal service? Or law enforcement? Think about the kind of mess that will make.

[leonheart00]

You know, I really have not learned a thing. You can't argue with people who made up their minds. I just gave you at least 10 very logical reasons the public option would virtually destroy America and yet you already had your mind closed.

You can't compare the public option to law enforcement because we are talking about a life being at risk and the extra incentive is needed for Doctors to work harder to learn how to treat various conditions. There are other alternatives to the PO but

[leonheart00]

Obama, Pelosi, and the rest of the lieing backstabbing leftists you seem so eager to align yourself (great role models, they really show their virtues) with have completely shut off the republican party from being given the option to give alternatives. Alternatives such as regulating and opening state borders allowing around 1300 new competitive insurance companies to drive down rates. Alternatives such as tax incentives, programs similar to unemployment. No, the only solution is tax people.

[4u2b1ib12]

leonheart00,

After this, I will delete any comment you send me.

You have no idea how many people I have discussed this with and lack the objectivity, (blinded by pride), to view ideas with an open mind.

Insurance companies share liabilities already.

Opening the state borders are a smoke-screen, elaborate hoax, a hoodwink, do you understand? You may have the money to pay higher rates. Wait until you make a claim. They will cancel your policy. How will that work out, for you?

Best wishes.

[leonheart00]

Umm... delete any comment I send you? Are you DecKrash then? It is obvious you had your mind closed from the beginning. Like I said, it doesn't matter how many points I make you stick your fingers in your ears and keep yapping. I understand the concern over cancelled policies and pre-existing conditions and that is what an unemployment insurance like program and regulation is for. Plus removing state boundaries on competition. This isn't about pride, it is about freedom.

[leonheart00]

We don't need to lose our national freedoms to a swelling oppressive government being fueled by insane amounts of tax dollars. Damn what am I doing? You probably work for Acorn or something, never mind.

[leonheart00]

During one of the harshes economic situations the world has faced since the great depression. You compare researching neurology to delivering a parcel? That debunks your argument alone, it is a common leftist argument that makes no sense. The Public option is a gateway to a single payer plan, it will force insurance companies to die and cause unbelievable ER lines in hospitals which will be run like your DMV with angry, miserable government employees running things. I know I waste my time, but.

[leonheart00]

I really hope you can look a little into the future and imagine the huge horrid ghetto America will be if socialism takes over. If the American dream of building something from nothing dies because incentive died first, so few people will try for more than a dream of seeing a successful business and not the money to better their lives. Panic button, no man, this is serious, I am screaming at the top of my lungs banging a gong and jumping up and down on the panic button!

[4u2b1ib12]

leonheart00,

The future is now. Socialism is here. It is called Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Are you going to refuse those, "SOCIALIST," programs when eligible? Why panic? The prostitutes, (Congressmen), in the brothel of fools, (Congress), that are owned by special interests will not let that happen. You can load-up on brown lipstick, (kissing ass), by talking to your elected Republican officials.

The public option will lower your private insurance rates.

-next.

[DecKrash]

Okay, first off, I was erasing a comment that *I* made. If I accidentally erased one of yours, I apologize.

Second... YOU THINK I WORK FOR ACORN???

OMGWTFBBQSAUCE???

Okay... I think we gotta end this argument. If there were any doubts in my mind that you're paranoid, you just brought them to rest with that statement.

[leonheart00]

lol@OMGWTFBBQSAUCE your use of acronyms makes you okay in my book.

Man, I was talking about that other guy who accused me of being racist and kept saying he would erase my comments and since your the guy who runs this thread I assumed you must be the same person. Sorry. No I can tell you actually seem to be a reasonable person.

Yeah, I am vigilant not paranoid like a quack, I should be.. in less than a year we have bankrupted the country and nationalized various industries.

[leonheart00]

Well anyway, if it is your wish to stop discussing it, I will respect that. Keep vlogging man, I am sure good things are bound to happen! :)

[utubecharlie]

Half Cocked? Show us what he has misstated. Then ( like Lee always does with his opponents), prove the he is wrong. He has debunked all his critics with facts about 99% of the time. You would like him to shut up because he is getting the truth out. Folks like you are attempting to ride HTWW popularity to make a name for yourselfs.This video was a complete waste of time, you added nothing to the the debate except some name calling. WANT MY 4 MINUTS AND 36 SECONDS BACK

[enoshthecat]

Hey T, I stopped listening at 2:57 when you demonstrated a lack of forethought before speaking. As a true liberal you for nearly 3 minutes failed to address a single factual point. You are welcome to rant all you want - it's your right but please take your own advice at 2:35 to 2:43 do some research before talking out your backside. Additionally your claim to Chrisitanity in the begining is weak weak weak. You seem to be afraid of ..or unknowledgeable about the concept of Christanity.

[James92802]

From 1:20 to 1:50 you try to make a point about how Doren is wrong, you seemed to try to refute one of his claims, but the only argument you have is "It's just BS" or "Shut up"or "I'm gona be sitting there watching popcorn...".

Is this the best you got? You want ppl to listen to you why?

Why don't you just say the truth, If Lee Doren had his way the government would be too small for you to feel safe.

Lower taxes, and small government frighten you. Why?

[Hereticbooks]

I think Lee goes up against thunderf00t for the attention. He's an attention whore. But he's one of those that finds it necessary to censor ALL criticism.

[utubecharlie]

Lee seems to be getting plenty of attention. The last 2 weeks he has been on CNN and Fox. thunderf00t has a habit of making inaccurate claims to which Lee has to respond and set the record strait. Plus I am sure it is kind of fun for him to rip apart thunderf00t with facts and logic.

[Hereticbooks]

I know a lot of people of faith that are not crazy right wingers... (in other words, they actually CARE about people)

[Jda4160]

who is this guy to say what it is true or not? this guy lacks intelligence if he thinks thunderf00t debunked any of lee's point by point arguments.did he watch both videos? is he in denial or what?

[ORVX]

HTWW is most likely an Agnostic, you generalize what is not even relevant, you think he is anti socialist ergo Christian and then pawn your self. Free speech has NOITHING to do with an individual censoring their own channel. dude you think your being profound, yet u have no clue of what you say. im YOUR narrow mind & focused is why U C what U C. fyi, Lee would kick you ass in a fight, u really want to go there, he wouldnt but trust me you would get a beat down.

[inmyheart313131]

Nice video. Your beliefs have nothing to do with the fact that HTWW is a moron.

[Eopyk]

Well said :)

All love from me Jasmine