Celibidache - You Don't Do Anything, You Let it Evolve 1/2

[akroasis10]

His renditions of Bruckner last symphonies (7,8,9th) are among the greatest performances, endless in details but with an awesome sense for the whole.

There are surely many of his students around the world but in my knowledge none of them has reached the highest level as performer as the pianist Juan Jose CHUQUISENGO, with amazing recordings by Sony Classical of Ravel, Bach, Schumann, Prokofiev - a young Celibidache on the piano?

[TheSpitzWegerIch]

Celibidaches line has not ended. You can find some of his students here:

Celi's master student conductor Konrad von Abel musikmph.de/artist_management/­abel/phenomenology.html

pianist Juan-Josè Chuquisengo

musikmph.de/artist_management/­chuquisengo/chuquisengo.html

conductor and violinist Ronny Rogoff

musikmph.de/artist_management/­rogoff/rogoff.html

[akroasis10]

@TheSpitzWegerIch fhank you for the information, I was wondering if such great conductor had some 'heirs' - from the musicians you mention I could only find Chuquisengo, who has made recordings with Sony Classical, one of them was selected among the 'best ever'! There are recordings at Youtube, an extraordinary musician!!,he could match the best of best - but I couldn't find any places where he performs (the infos of that agency are quite old) does somedy knows where does he live or perform?

[bbree1]

Genius, talented and funny. Extraoirdinary...!!, such an interesting thing in the part when he mentions the music psychology.

[missanyhooox3]

Haitink is somewhat underrated but his recent recordings of the Beethoven symphonies in London reveal a seasoned and enlightened musical personality.

[defda94]

@seaface88 no totally, baraenboim and zubin metha are still there

[xjavierss]

The best

[s74elena]

the greatest conductor EVER !!!!!!!

[muslit]

First he (Celibidache) sits slanted to one side in his chair, listens, then says 'Dov'e un punto morto ancora?' What does he mean by dead point? A rest that doesn't belong, a musical moment that doesn't have life? The student doesn't know. Then Celibidache has the violins play alone, and it becomes apparent: the dead point is a missing arrival point after repetition in a phrase. Then the student fixes it, but then Celebidache says, 'Not my interpretation, yours.' What a jerk.

[alexmuresan]

@muslit The point was HOW to get the "thing" fixed. Once the thing was fixed it was an "interpretation". Until then it was ... something else (his opinion)

[muslit]

@alexmuresan

like no one else has an interpretation other than celebidache - no, my objection was to celebidache being a jerk, not in his 'fixing' something -

[catasabau]

another romanian genius gone outside...so that no genius stays in the country :D

[TheEngraver]

Che grande fortuna e onore, per me, è stato studiare con lui, anche se per poco. Ogni volta che vedo questo video ricordo quante volte mi ha detto di smettere di fumare...poi, al minuto 2.13, fra i tre ragazzi che parlano, ho riconosciuto il mio vecchio amico Angel Gil Ordonez, è quello che si sente dire "yo creo che el punto culminante es...".Bravissimo musicista e direttore anche lui. Quanti ricordi. Grazie, Maestro, di essere esistito. E grazie al destino per avermelo fatto incontrare.

[TheEngraver]

Era un uomo capace di distruggerti nel modo più violento e tremendo. Ma non lo faceva mai con cattiveria, lo faceva per distruggere le tue convinzioni quasi sempre errate, per poi ricostruirti. E quando ti ricostruiva, lo faceva con un amore e una dedizione davvero commoventi. Un minuto prima ti parlava con durezza terrificante, il minuto dopo ti veniva vicino e ti sorrideva con grandissimo amore. E ricordo quanto amava i giovani. Lui VIVEVA PER I GIOVANI.Ancora oggi sento il suo amore in me.

[permea]

veramente hai studiato con celibidache??

deve essere stata un'esperienza strordinaria, una insegnamento irripetibile (solo ferrara come didatta poteva essere all'altezza di celi) complimenti!!

p.s. nel caso tu voglia condividere la tua conoscenza con celi noi siamo tutto orecchi!!!:D

[TheEngraver]

@permea Guarda, io non credo di essere adatto a parlare del Maestro, perché ci sono persone molto più adatte di me, per esempio Raffaele Napoli, che l'ha conosciuto molto più a fondo. C'è anche un libro scritto da Umberto Padroni. Padroni era presente a uno dei seminari di Celibidache cui ho partecipato, e proprio lì cominciò a scrivere questo libro. Io posso soltanto dire cosa ho provato io. :-)

[helmusico]

Never touch a cigarrette!

The best advice to pianists, doctors, police, actors, writers, scientists, young and old people; tall, small, white, black, yellow and red people;

Say same about drugs and alcohol.

[ipmoic]

What a joy to watch. And all those young musicians will never forget this experience.

Strange how the improvised piece at the end sounds eerily like Bartok--I enjoyed it--ah, a failed music critic!

[GeneralDAS]

What a great first quote!

[fl0ryan]

a complete musician! outstanding cleverness! in addition to this, very talented and musical soul... ROMANIA had and will still have great musical values

[rextrebor]

romanian genius... speaks german and italian perfectly

[stefanocutilli]

Semplicemente grande!

[Fuiga]

this student of Celibidache... the first one with glasses was my teacher for 2 years.... it is awesome to get to see him in the same place that he put me through... the teaching is sort of the same.

[miguelercolino]

Sorry, what is the name of this teacher?

And do you know who is Celibidache telling that he expects so much from him at 2:22?

[Fuiga]

no, the one I know is the first student that is actually conducting the orchestra with the glasses, his name is Leonardo Gasparini, he was my conducting teacher for 2 years, and he is great as Celi was. I have no idea on who is at 2:22, but the first one... the one that he speaks to him in italian, that's my teacher

[miguelercolino]

Thanks!

[glitch107]

haha i am from roman city

i live where celibidache was born.

his builtding is still in my town.

the so called "music house"

:)

[muslit]

a titantic control freak -