good points...on top of that, even if one were to completely believe all that Jesus stuff and/or all that Zenu stuff, HOW ON EARTH WOULD ANY OF THAT HORSESHIT HELP ANO OF US IN OUR DAILY LIVES IN 2011??? Get a job, don`t break the law and enjoy life.
Mr Bunker, I think you co-worker is right. I can't agree on the carpenters' behaviour, since it caused the - by far!- most brutal and one of the most long-lasting religious raids in the world. Christianity is the Rambo beyond all religions, they say, and I agree. Scientology certainly does tell their folks about Xenu after a big waste of money - but there's plenty of Christians who never EVER believe the bullshit that's being told to them. - Not that I wanted to protect the Co$.
@TheDoctorofGood: Let's say: Scientology is based on a fundamental misunderstanding and neglecting of even the basics of science. Therefore, if it's based on science fiction, it's based on the worst type of ignorance you can imagine. Several ideas used in Star Trek's Old Series is WAY more plausible.
Scientology: Where is the starburts contradiction commercial when I need it. Science and religion as one....you're scotts korean. Ya don't make a wee bit of sense.
@OneUhBuv Please don't try to demean my religion. It only displays your ignorance as well as the dominance of illiteracy over your life. Oh notice I said TRY. Thank You and may God forgive you and I.
Lots of religions take advantage of vulnerable people e.g. the catholic church used to charge grieving people to insure their relatives went to heaven, now they spread lies to uneducated people that condoms give you hiv.
THE LONGER MY SPEECH TO THE WORLD IS NOT TOLD THE MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL CARRY ON BEING KILLED & ABUSED. I-LEYLA ERGUN SAY TO ALL PEOPLE “CALL THE MEDIA AND ASK FOR LEYLA ERGUN’S SPEECH TO BE TOLD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE BECAUSE WHAT I WILL SAY WILL END SATAN’S INFLUENCE ON EARTH ONCE & FOR ALL” THINK ABOUT ALL THE FATHERS & SONS THAT HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN FOR NOTHING!!!! THEN MAKE THAT CALL THAT WILL CHANGE THE WORLD FOREVER!!!!.MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM MESSENGER FOR GOD-THE CREATOR
THE LONGER MY SPEECH TO THE WORLD IS NOT TOLD THE MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL CARRY ON BEING KILLED & ABUSED. I-LEYLA ERGUN SAY TO ALL PEOPLE “CALL THE MEDIA AND ASK FOR LEYLA ERGUN’S SPEECH TO BE TOLD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE BECAUSE WHAT I WILL SAY WILL END SATAN’S INFLUENCE ON EARTH ONCE & FOR ALL” THINK ABOUT ALL THE FATHERS & SONS THAT HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN FOR NOTHING!!!! THEN MAKE THAT CALL THAT WILL CHANGE THE WORLD FOREVER!!!!.MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM MESSENGER FOR GOD-THE CREATOR
TO PEOPLE WHO’S SOULS HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY DARK FORCES, YOU HAVE GOTTEN YOURSELF INVOLVED IN SOMETHING THAT WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD YOU TO YOUR DEATH!!!! IT IS SATAN AKA JESUS CHRIST AND HIS DARK FORCES WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER YOUR SOUL AND THEY ARE EVIL NOT GOOD….YOU CAN SHAKE THE DARK FORCES OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM WITH THE HELP OF LEYLA ERGUN’S FREE VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE & FACEBOOK….MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM A MESSENGER CHOSEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR ON 22-09-2010
@TheReasonUK I dont give a shit about that,I am saying that you are very hot. If the "creater god really talks to you, you will know me." Stop playing games with my heart. I love you. Thats 3 words, remember.
CONT....THE TRUTH HAS BEEN HIDDEN FROM THE WORLD FOR FAR TOO LONG NOW, EVEN PRESIDENTS & PRIME MINISTERS DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH, THAT IS HOW HIDDEN IT IS BUT WITHOUT THE TRUTH MANY MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BEFORE THIS HALF OF THIS CENTURY ENDS….MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM A MESSENGER CHOSEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR ON 22-09-2010.
I HAVE PERMISSION TO TALK ON BEHALF OF GOD-THE CREATOR & THE TRUE MESSIAH….THERE IS CURRENTLY MORE EVIL THAN GOOD IN THE WORLD AND BECAUSE OF THIS IMBALANCE THERE IS NO CHANCE OF THE TRUTH BEING KNOWN TO THE MASSES UNTIL THE TRUE MESSIAH ARRIVES (WHO IS NOT JESUS CHRIST) OR THE TRUTH IS RELEASED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THROUGH LEYLA ERGUN’S SPEECH TO THE WORLD….CON'T
LIBYA ATTACKS NEED NOT HAVE HAPPEN IF MY SPEECH TO THE WORLD HAD BEEN HEARD BY NOW….I-LEYLA ERGUN AM VERY SAD FOR THE MASSES THAT DESERVE TO HEAR MY SPEECH SO WE CAN ALL HAVE PEACE ON EARTH AT LAST!!!! CURRENTLY THERE IS MUCH EVIL ON EARTH AND THINGS ARE GOING TO GET A LOT WORSE, DARK FORCES ARE GETTING MORE & MORE CONFIDENT BUT ULTIMATELY THIS WILL BE THEIR DOWNFALL BUT BEFORE THEIR DOWNFALL MORE AND MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL BE KILLED IF MY SPEECH IS NOT HEARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE!!!!
JESUS CHRIST IS NOT HIS TRUE NAME. HE IS 2ND IN GOD-THE CREATORS HIERARCHY & THE POWERS GIVEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR ARE REFLECTED IN THIS HIERARCHY. .THE GOD THAT CALLS HIMSELF JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE FALLEN ANGEL IS NOT KNOWN AS A WARRIOR. THE TRUE MESSIAH IS KNOWN AS A WARRIOR & IS 1ST IN THE HEIRACHY.THOSE WHO DO EVIL FOR THE GOD THAT CALLS HIMSELF JESUS CHRIST WILL LOSE, THEY WILL BE NO MORE BEFORE THIS HALF OF THIS CENTURY ENDS. MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM A MESSENGER CHOSEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR
JESUS CHRIST IS NOT HIS TRUE NAME. HE IS 2ND IN GOD-THE CREATORS HIERARCHY & THE POWERS GIVEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR ARE REFLECTED IN THIS HIERARCHY. .THE GOD THAT CALLS HIMSELF JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE FALLEN ANGEL IS NOT KNOWN AS A WARRIOR. THE TRUE MESSIAH IS KNOWN AS A WARRIOR & IS 1ST IN THE HEIRACHY.THOSE WHO DO EVIL FOR THE GOD THAT CALLS HIMSELF JESUS CHRIST WILL LOSE, THEY WILL BE NO MORE BEFORE THIS HALF OF THIS CENTURY ENDS. MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM A MESSENGER CHOSEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR
Superstition is nonsense. Anyone who believes in religion is bad at science and dreadful at history. Christians are as bad as Muslims, America is scornful and hypocritical when Christianity is considered. All of those that follow the bible are inherently stupid. DEATH to those that do. You IGNORANT fools. Death to Muslims, death to Christians! You all sck arse!!!!! And cock!!!!!
secret society? lol every religion is against other religions every religion also has its truths and its misunderstandings , if you're going to replace variables in the explanation of each religion you will find that they pretty much all go along... so at least the schematic of how it all works has to be right, now the characters and representations if we really want no war or confusion, we should just stop arguing about it
they got you hooked on the terms again ...............lol
See how clever this con artist of this cult is. Amazing .....I can see the strings attached to your shoulders. You seem a very intlegent man take another look.
How on earth in this day and age of technology is any person not smart enough to research what they are getting involved with?????
Come on humans are the most curious of creatures on the planet, and you are telling me that they dont use the internet to learn about all possible information that they can????
It Is A Misconception To Believe That Santa Claus Enters Through An Opening In The Chimney, When In Reality He Enters Through An Opening In The Heart.
@kthorn612 I would too. An't eva' gonna' be one, but don't you think its disheartening that so much info in un-released yet, while you have to pay for it, the members hardly know anything about it? I'll look around for it.
@cpmc1 I just think that if high level defectors release the golden-est of goodies from the highest levels of Scientology for public consumption then its mystique and value will go down...as well as expose any outlandish claims or fraud. This will devalue the teachings of the church and shred its reputation under scrutiny.
@kthorn612 I also think that if any of your so call "god"-like beings were to be challenged in a psychic viewing your church will be embarassed. What powers? U describe the power of the "bindi", the great "portal". Yet after years of dedication & billions of scam dollars, do none among the millions of your followers even have any "abilities"? Not even one! HA
@Wolfsbane909 Oh nononono, you can clearly see in the latest Mission Impossible movie that Tom Cruise can both fly and dodge bullets, hows that for a power? HA
@Mordierbillig really huh? Tom Cruise spent how much? much good it did him huh? I would like 2 challenge one of their top leaders to demonstrate such powers. Surely millions of their followers must see proof if they're to empty their wallets into the scam. What proof is there?
Well done, Mark. I have been watching your videos and you above all others rightly understand that in order to have anyone consider the alternative to ANYTHING, you must maintain credibility. You have rightly understood that we do this not by radically espousing our beliefs to others but objectively analyzing both sides of the issue and moderately presenting them. Your presentation was spot on.
Well done sir, I take my hat off to you for what you have done to end these fallacious practices.
I'm to poor to be a true christian or a scientologist, so I go for the most natural and thing and also the way we all are born into before being brainwashed: Atheism :)
@kaxitaksi Being a Christian is free to all. Doesn't cost a penny. Christian churches pass around an offering plate that you can give if you can and still give you love if you can't. There's no such thing as being too poor to be a Christian.
@9cvz ehh.. so the only thing u have to "sell" is your soul then? No tnx, my soul is to valuable so I stick to being an atheist. I have been an atheist since I was 7, the age of reason, when I saw through the lies teached in sunday school, Thank Dog! :))
Besides, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Shinto and most other REAL religions are based on actual ancient mythologies.
Scientology is the brainchild of a hack science fiction writer who himself was quoted as saying that starting a religion was "where the real money is".
Mark is telling a story in simple language that slow people can understand. Christianity has little to do with it. Substitute any mainstream religion (Judaism,Islam,Hinduism,Buddhism) and the end of the story remains the same.Do you get it now ?
ok so since when do you have to pay money to be a christian? i dont understand. there is no need to pay any money in order to be a christian. you can give to your church but that's completely optional. could you explain?
@mrdipallins I don't know why Mark hasn't replied himself. The point of the video, in part is that Christianity does not charge you to learn about it. He wasy saying, what if it did?
Its called a "tithe". Its not mandatory and the money, in theory, is supposed to go to charities and missions and such. Unfortunately, there is no way of tracking the money once it leaves the room....so its quite understandable that nobody gives anymore. There are some Christians who actually donate their 10% to the charity themselves instead of handing it over to the church...which is quite commendable.
@RedTailedTuna No powerful creator of the universe would ever take 6 days to create everything and then rest on the 7th. that means that the God is weak
HEY. You are saying less-than-positive things about scientology. You must be hiding something. And you are using the internet. Tell me, are you into kiddy porn?
im a christian and i understand what mark is saying . every thing i belive in as a christian is out in the open for any one to read and see nothing is hiddent like it is in the cult of scientology . i have asked a few people what are the belifes of scientology but all i got was a run around and no answer at all . i dont think they even know what they belive in and thats sad . people can belive in what ever they want but at lest be truthful about it .
@dawala1000 It is sad these people just believe without even knowning. So horribly wrong, well scientology is not tolerated globally, in such countries like PRC, scientology is never welcomed, China not having any of that bullshit they're selling. Can't see for other parts of the world that this cult thrives in though.
I am sure the leaders have super powers, just simply because they say so, therefore it must be true right?! Even though they never display such powers.
@xenutv1 I find it very interesting when you are talking about the courses and say "yeah im making a bit more money at work and I can speak a bit better" from your time spent talking with ex scios, do you know if the beginning courses do acutually have any benifits? Is there any truth in what they offer at all?
@xenutv1 I find it very interesting when you are talking about the courses and say "yeah im making a bit more money at work and I can speak a bit better" from your time spent talking with ex scios, do you know if the beginning courses do acutually have any benifits? Is there any truth in what they offer at all?
@ThePickstock I think it's safe to say there are some benefits people can receive from those early courses but at what price? Hubbard cobbled together bits and pieces from people to make up his "tech." If there was no benefit whatsoever, no one would be tempted to continue. But that's the lure. There are other courses that can teach you to communicate or run a business without having you fall into Hubbard's trap or sign a billion year contract.
I'm puzzled. Scientologists claim 8-10 million members and rising. Anon claims Scientology has 50,000 members and falling. How can we know? Is there a fair and impartial body that monitors membership, and can tell us the real deal?
@jonathanmelia There was a nationwide survey conducted by the City University of New York years ago. If you google them you can see all their findings.
@jonathanmelia 8-10 million cult members? How many with actual powers? I bet u none, out of the 10 million, not a single one. yet constant cases of cult members using violence & fear to harrasse any opposition, guarding some secert they know NOTHING ABOUT. Xenu? lol if Xenu was real, I am sure Xenu would vaporize these guys, on adivce from the ones with real "powers". Of course i am sure they talk to "Xenu" all the time, because they have "powers" lol
An excellent analysis of how a person can become immersed in Scientology. People slowly become entrenched in the religion, they don't go or fall for it all at once.
I do think it is worth noting that according to the testimony of L Ron Hubbard's own son, L Ron Hubbard was fascinated by a British black magician Aleister Crowley, from whom he derived much inspiration. He also practised satanic and other occultic rituals in the 1940s, prior to the founding of his organization 'Scientology', which by its own nature is occultic.
Guys, Mark Bunker has never read a Scn book or taken a Scn class. How do you expect him to be able to tell you what its all about? He doesnt know. He just heard ( and started) a few rumors about Scn to create a story. Go to a Library, check out a book, and then decide for yourself if its good or bad. You really dont want Bunker making that decision for you. Im serious.
@toryluvslrh2 I have some books you can get from a good library, to check out Scientology for yourself. "Blown For Good" by Marc Headley "My Billion Year Contract" by Nancy Many "Abuse At The Top" by Amy Scobee "A Piece of Blue Sky" by Jon Atack "The Scandal of Scientology" by Paulette Cooper "Bare Faced Messiah" by Russell Miller All the above books were written by people far more experienced in the cult than most, and you will find everything you need to know about Scientology here. :)
@AvantAnon - "We"? How many personalities do you hide behind? Be a man son when you speak to me. Speak for yourself. Dont hide behind that babysitting club that calls itself anonymous. Stand out front and show everyone you are strong enough to speak your own mind. If you need to say "we" Im not interested. I dont like cowards. And please let Notre Dame & DUKE know knowledge is free. They missed that memo. (grin)
@toryluvslrh2 I represent anonymous, in much the same way you speak for your organization, Scientology. You know that though.
If you mean coming out from behind the group or my mask I must decline. I'd rather not lose my livelihood and reputation like Paulette Cooper and other critics your organization has attacked. Nor do I want to be stalked, my property destroyed or in any become a victim of fair game tactics.
@AvantAnon - You represent the babysitting club anonymous? And you wear a halloween mask? Does your mom know this? Do you guys get blue mats for naps? That is so cute! (grin)
@AvantAnon - Its sad that I have to explain all of this to you. No wonder you state to "expect us" but you never actually arrive. Only a child would do what anons have done. Hacking, bomb threats, racial hatred, etc. It stopped abit after one of you was sentenced to prison. Do you have any other silly questions that you dont know the answer to?
@toryluvslrh2 Oh I know the answers Tory. We're not terrorists. And even if we were, we're a community of no leadership, and few unified traits. Save one, the protest of the abuses of Scientology.
An arrest means nothing. We'll see our members return to us, and we'll keep protesting. And we will arrive.
@AvantAnon - "WE"? Are you really that small a man? You cant say "I" ? You really are a child arent you son? Well I tell ya what. You let me know when ya get here wont you? In your case its not Expect us. Its " Expectorant". Go sit down now before you hurt yourself young man. lol
@toryluvslrh2 One man can't really protest all that effectively. I think a large mass of people, protesting, on a planned day is a lot more effective.
@AvantAnon - Yea in theory that makes sense. sadly for you, anon numbers have dropped so badly that it really might just be you there all by yourself. It looks like you are going to have to change your cheezy slogan to " Expect ME". roflmao
@toryluvslrh2 Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes - Maggie Khun
I intend to do just that, to anyone and everyone who violates civil rights and the rights of others. You're in a losing battle. Laugh all you want, justice never sleeps. The truth will make itself known.
@AvantAnon - Well I heard your shaking voice and even thought it attempts to destroy my rights in the name of evil, I forgive you. " Forgive them for they know not what they do" - Jesus Christ. Your name "Legion" comes from Satan and it makes sense. You cant win son. All of life itself is against you. You will fall and I wont have to lift a finger to make it happen. You can expect that.
@toryluvslrh2 We are Anonymous. It is true that we are legion. It means many, a multitude of people. We are not evil. We desire freedom for the people trapped in your organization.
How dare your organization hold people against their will! How dare they stalk people! How dare they order abortions!
We seek only that the Church remove it's shroud of secrecy, and that the leadership is reformed. You may practice your beliefs. BUT NO ONE CAN BE MADE TO AGAINST THEIR WILL.
@AvantAnon - Thats good son. Better get to polishing that mask cause you have alot of work to do. Do ya still wear the cape? Does it still have the big pink "A" on the front? God you must look a sight. Well good luck to ya .. ( Twilight Zone music playing in the background)
@toryluvslrh2 Apparently you don't care about civil rights. But don't worry. If your church opens it screen of privacy to show the world there is no oppressive RPF, and that the claims made by ex-members are simply slander, than we'll leave.
We don't oppose your civil rights. We just oppose the abuses we perceive within. And until those claims can be proven erroneous and unsubstantial you can expect us.
@toryluvslrh2 No the name legion comes from the roman military unit consisting of 4200 legionaries. The word legion was used only to say that thee were a large number of demons in the man. You can't win if you can't come up with an argument with merit.
@toryluvslrh2 We are one and we are many. It simply means that I as an individual choose to speak out against this cult but we as a group have made the same decision for differing reasons. Ever try breaking a bundle of sticks?
Most certainly disturbing. Esspecially since Tluvs stated in multiple posts he would like to slap people who he considers children.
I believe it's a $cientology requirement. Which explains why it is asked in their crappy free gullibility test. If you answer that with yes you are just a few hundredthousand dollar away from Xenu OT level and the aliens that reside in your body.
Since most people are not so perverted they see $cientology for the scam and cult that it is.
@LRonAnonymous Indeed it is. Ah I didn't know, that is indeed disturbing. XD
No wonder they find so many people that "Are a danger to themselves and others." In Scientology language, it's actually backwards. You're a danger if you're not one, once you've had your soul ripped away, you're finally fit for society.
Their belief that sympathy is evil, due to the fact it's non-survival is a telling sign of all things Scientology. They may use sympathy for their own survival though.
Hail Wise Beard man! Scourge of a crappy cult, right-hand man of the supreme Rulah Xenu himself, defender of justice and bringer of the best Obi Wan impression I ever heard.
@WildernessTree And the atheist answers ,"Oh, Sorry, I guess it's because there was no credible evidence." And God sayeth unto he, "Good work, you may pass onto paradise." A Christian approaches, "Why did you believe?" The Christian answers "My Pastor delivered a really good sermon, and I loved the bible." "You believed just because someone told you?" Says God, anger rising in his voice. "Well...yeah" voice quavering. "You are unworthy, you naive gullible servant. You may not pass!" The End.
Hey, I have an Honest question about the Scientologist beleifs....that is if someone out there, or perhaps even the poster of the clips, can answer it for me. I am just curious...I know you get to the different levels in Scientology basically by paying then, and then going through some sort of ritual or something...well my question is: is their a standard waiting period that must be adhered to between levels? Or could you just go through every level there is in like a week, if had the money?
@frankensteinmoneymac I would take more than a week but, yes, if you could pay for it and had the time, you could whip up the bridge at an accelerated pace.
@XENUTV Thanks...I was alwasy curious about that...PS sorry if I had the occasional bad grammer in that question ......"if had the money", etc. LOL! I think I was half asleep when I wrote it!
@frankensteinmoneymac - You can keep going on your auditing or classes. Why wait? And you can have family audit you for FREE if you co-audit. You can take the Basic classes at home to save a few bucks if money is tight. never heard of the ritual thingy you mentioned. Its just like going to class at college. The auditing part will amaze you if you like the idea of learning about yourself and why you are the way you are.
Yes, like I said, if you think holding two tin cans whilst some kid asks about your sex life and about your innermost fantasies, for $40 per hour, is going to give you "enlightenment", then go ahead.
But like the majority of people who left the cult after a few sessions, you'll see it only "enlightens" your wallet.
@WildernessTree - Philippians 5-11 : Let the same mind be in you that was ALSO in Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be EQUAL with God.. Oh yes Virginia there is most definately a Scientology! You show me a Christian who talks bad about anothers beliefs and I'll show you the person that Christ turned his back on.
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xenutv1 Cant really talk about comparing Christianity and cults in a public forum like this without stepping up and saying what you really beleive.so far you have not so I will say it for us all
Jesus is the son of God and scientology is Scam Buisness started by a science fiction writer.
@xenutv1 ~ interesting ~ it's amazing the similar tactics ~ that christo-fakes & scientologist intiate ~ think Ur street videos are educational/interesting ~ 2 corth 11:14 * peace * ~ Is Jesus God ~ he secured a federal holiday & changed history ~ not 2 shabby *
@WildernessTree are you aware what you have said here is arrogant, prideful and intolerant...the OPPOSITE of the teachings of the christ. Scientology Beliefs ARE NOT the problem. Get somthing right.
@WildernessTree Mark is making a good point here. He's saying how it would come across, if: Christianity did the same thing as $cientology. NO RELIGION (save Mormonism with their temple ceremonies) does what $cientology does and, even, the Mormons don't charge tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars and bait-'n'-switch their people along like the $cilons do.
His comparison is about tactics and not the respective dogmas of these two religions.
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"Not to say one is right and one is wring" Sorry mark christianity is right and Scientology is wrong......You have a god thing going here,tell the whole truth.It dosent matter who knows you beleive in god...just say it to thier face here where you preach
@xenutv1 I applaud you for your efforts in exposing these people. It's horrific that they get away with calling themselves a Church. I used to think it was comical hearing the story of xenu but it's actually sad that people are fooled into thinking they need to pay absurd amounts of money to be freed of body thetans just because a dead science fiction writer said they should. I wonder how many times LRH laughed his space balls off going to the bank with money he made from his xenu spoof
@WildernessTree and you have proof to back up your assertion that christianity is right? because im sure theres a lot of people who would be interested to hear that
does anybody actually get what hes trying to say here? cos all it has sparked off is a stupid argument about dogma, the belief isn't the point, its the way they go around disseminating this belief and how they respond to criticism, people accuse christianity of misleading people all the time but the pope doesnt flip out and have unflattering documents destroyed by infiltrating government offices like in operation snow white (at least not publicly, but please dont start another bloody argument)
@WildernessTree actually no religion is right, no human has ever met or witnessed a god, no human has made their life better by following religion. Atheism and Agnosticism is the only way to go.
@mikerules999 Religion can be beautiful thing, it can lead you to get better, to work on yourself, but of course first u have to think and not belive litteraly everything that church tells you. Just my opinion. No offence.
another big difference is that the carpenter is actually the son of God...not a science fiction writer....step up and Say one is right amigo have the sack to admit it. Your PC attitude is dangerous as well.you seem like a good person
@arachnophile01 Proof of God? You are asking for god to prove himself? If that is true you have been denied the one thing god hopes you to have....Faith
@WildernessTree With that argument, anything goes. If you are asking for proof of a flying star-nosed mole in my backyard, you've been denied the one thing it hopes you have... Faith
If a scientologist found out what GMT can do for him he would leave the cult of scientology at once. There will be certain rules you have to follow if you want to reach the success, BUT the rules are on voluntary basis. You will in most cases very quickly find out it is important to follow the rules, if you want to reach the success. You can only join a course if you become member of my GLS. GLS stands for Global Life Style. When you become member you will be able to call yourself a LOGICOLOG.
Im the inventor of the GMT. It stands for: Global Maximum Truth. Its simply the truth internationally. I sell 10 courses for a fair price. The price you pay for a course is a value price, what means you can get a certain amount of information from the course, which will make you capable to do certain things to understand yourself, no matter where you are in the world. When you have taken course nr. 5, you will be able to have a successful business without problems.
On the 7th day, God said "Let there be the Wise Beard Man". And there was. And God saw that it was good.
mattvkpc 2 weeks ago
good points...on top of that, even if one were to completely believe all that Jesus stuff and/or all that Zenu stuff, HOW ON EARTH WOULD ANY OF THAT HORSESHIT HELP ANO OF US IN OUR DAILY LIVES IN 2011??? Get a job, don`t break the law and enjoy life.
toddmastria1 1 month ago
Mr Bunker, I think you co-worker is right. I can't agree on the carpenters' behaviour, since it caused the - by far!- most brutal and one of the most long-lasting religious raids in the world. Christianity is the Rambo beyond all religions, they say, and I agree. Scientology certainly does tell their folks about Xenu after a big waste of money - but there's plenty of Christians who never EVER believe the bullshit that's being told to them. - Not that I wanted to protect the Co$.
GGGNVideos 1 month ago
Scientology isn't based on old myths. It's based on 20th century science fiction.
TheDoctorofGood 1 month ago
@TheDoctorofGood: Let's say: Scientology is based on a fundamental misunderstanding and neglecting of even the basics of science. Therefore, if it's based on science fiction, it's based on the worst type of ignorance you can imagine. Several ideas used in Star Trek's Old Series is WAY more plausible.
GGGNVideos 1 month ago
fuck religion
shortboarder15 2 months ago 2
Scientology: Where is the starburts contradiction commercial when I need it. Science and religion as one....you're scotts korean. Ya don't make a wee bit of sense.
SuperAlphamale13 3 months ago
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bagelboi66 3 months ago
4:15 He didn't rise from death THE NEXT DAY. He rose on THE THIRD DAY. Please get your facts right. Thank You
joeygrindsgears 4 months ago
@joeygrindsgears So what if he got his fairy tales wrong?
OneUhBuv 2 months ago
@OneUhBuv Please don't try to demean my religion. It only displays your ignorance as well as the dominance of illiteracy over your life. Oh notice I said TRY. Thank You and may God forgive you and I.
joeygrindsgears 2 months ago
@joeygrindsgears Yes, may God forgive me.
If he was real.
OneUhBuv 2 months ago
Lots of religions take advantage of vulnerable people e.g. the catholic church used to charge grieving people to insure their relatives went to heaven, now they spread lies to uneducated people that condoms give you hiv.
PrincessGarnet85 5 months ago
That's a great way of summing it up - it's not the message, it's the delivery.
electrogeek77 6 months ago
HAIL WISE BEARD
commando2224 7 months ago 8
Im glad that there is people like you around! Keep up the good work Mark!
venedar 9 months ago
XENU TV :-))) :-D
thinspi 9 months ago
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THE LONGER MY SPEECH TO THE WORLD IS NOT TOLD THE MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL CARRY ON BEING KILLED & ABUSED. I-LEYLA ERGUN SAY TO ALL PEOPLE “CALL THE MEDIA AND ASK FOR LEYLA ERGUN’S SPEECH TO BE TOLD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE BECAUSE WHAT I WILL SAY WILL END SATAN’S INFLUENCE ON EARTH ONCE & FOR ALL” THINK ABOUT ALL THE FATHERS & SONS THAT HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN FOR NOTHING!!!! THEN MAKE THAT CALL THAT WILL CHANGE THE WORLD FOREVER!!!!.MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM MESSENGER FOR GOD-THE CREATOR
TheReasonUK 10 months ago
THE LONGER MY SPEECH TO THE WORLD IS NOT TOLD THE MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL CARRY ON BEING KILLED & ABUSED. I-LEYLA ERGUN SAY TO ALL PEOPLE “CALL THE MEDIA AND ASK FOR LEYLA ERGUN’S SPEECH TO BE TOLD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE BECAUSE WHAT I WILL SAY WILL END SATAN’S INFLUENCE ON EARTH ONCE & FOR ALL” THINK ABOUT ALL THE FATHERS & SONS THAT HAVE DIED IN AFGHANISTAN FOR NOTHING!!!! THEN MAKE THAT CALL THAT WILL CHANGE THE WORLD FOREVER!!!!.MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM MESSENGER FOR GOD-THE CREATOR
TheReasonUK 10 months ago
@TheReasonUK one day bitch you will bow to me.
kackleyjarrod 10 months ago
Mark I do love your videos
kackleyjarrod 10 months ago
TO PEOPLE WHO’S SOULS HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY DARK FORCES, YOU HAVE GOTTEN YOURSELF INVOLVED IN SOMETHING THAT WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD YOU TO YOUR DEATH!!!! IT IS SATAN AKA JESUS CHRIST AND HIS DARK FORCES WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER YOUR SOUL AND THEY ARE EVIL NOT GOOD….YOU CAN SHAKE THE DARK FORCES OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM WITH THE HELP OF LEYLA ERGUN’S FREE VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE & FACEBOOK….MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM A MESSENGER CHOSEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR ON 22-09-2010
TheReasonUK 10 months ago
@TheReasonUK I dont give a shit about that,I am saying that you are very hot. If the "creater god really talks to you, you will know me." Stop playing games with my heart. I love you. Thats 3 words, remember.
kackleyjarrod 10 months ago
@kackleyjarrod If you say you know me, well get up with me and we can figure everything out, together. And I still think that you are hot!
kackleyjarrod 10 months ago
@TheReasonUK come to me, I will provide
kackleyjarrod 10 months ago
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@TheReasonUK Bitch you have the nerve to block me. You cunt!
kackleyjarrod 10 months ago
CONT....THE TRUTH HAS BEEN HIDDEN FROM THE WORLD FOR FAR TOO LONG NOW, EVEN PRESIDENTS & PRIME MINISTERS DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH, THAT IS HOW HIDDEN IT IS BUT WITHOUT THE TRUTH MANY MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED BEFORE THIS HALF OF THIS CENTURY ENDS….MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM A MESSENGER CHOSEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR ON 22-09-2010.
TheReasonUK 10 months ago
@TheReasonUK I still wanna play naughty games with you.
kackleyjarrod 10 months ago
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I HAVE PERMISSION TO TALK ON BEHALF OF GOD-THE CREATOR & THE TRUE MESSIAH….THERE IS CURRENTLY MORE EVIL THAN GOOD IN THE WORLD AND BECAUSE OF THIS IMBALANCE THERE IS NO CHANCE OF THE TRUTH BEING KNOWN TO THE MASSES UNTIL THE TRUE MESSIAH ARRIVES (WHO IS NOT JESUS CHRIST) OR THE TRUTH IS RELEASED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THROUGH LEYLA ERGUN’S SPEECH TO THE WORLD….CON'T
TheReasonUK 10 months ago
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LIBYA ATTACKS NEED NOT HAVE HAPPEN IF MY SPEECH TO THE WORLD HAD BEEN HEARD BY NOW….I-LEYLA ERGUN AM VERY SAD FOR THE MASSES THAT DESERVE TO HEAR MY SPEECH SO WE CAN ALL HAVE PEACE ON EARTH AT LAST!!!! CURRENTLY THERE IS MUCH EVIL ON EARTH AND THINGS ARE GOING TO GET A LOT WORSE, DARK FORCES ARE GETTING MORE & MORE CONFIDENT BUT ULTIMATELY THIS WILL BE THEIR DOWNFALL BUT BEFORE THEIR DOWNFALL MORE AND MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL BE KILLED IF MY SPEECH IS NOT HEARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE!!!!
TheReasonUK 10 months ago
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JESUS CHRIST IS NOT HIS TRUE NAME. HE IS 2ND IN GOD-THE CREATORS HIERARCHY & THE POWERS GIVEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR ARE REFLECTED IN THIS HIERARCHY. .THE GOD THAT CALLS HIMSELF JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE FALLEN ANGEL IS NOT KNOWN AS A WARRIOR. THE TRUE MESSIAH IS KNOWN AS A WARRIOR & IS 1ST IN THE HEIRACHY.THOSE WHO DO EVIL FOR THE GOD THAT CALLS HIMSELF JESUS CHRIST WILL LOSE, THEY WILL BE NO MORE BEFORE THIS HALF OF THIS CENTURY ENDS. MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM A MESSENGER CHOSEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR
TheReasonUK 10 months ago
JESUS CHRIST IS NOT HIS TRUE NAME. HE IS 2ND IN GOD-THE CREATORS HIERARCHY & THE POWERS GIVEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR ARE REFLECTED IN THIS HIERARCHY. .THE GOD THAT CALLS HIMSELF JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE FALLEN ANGEL IS NOT KNOWN AS A WARRIOR. THE TRUE MESSIAH IS KNOWN AS A WARRIOR & IS 1ST IN THE HEIRACHY.THOSE WHO DO EVIL FOR THE GOD THAT CALLS HIMSELF JESUS CHRIST WILL LOSE, THEY WILL BE NO MORE BEFORE THIS HALF OF THIS CENTURY ENDS. MY NAME IS LEYLA ERGUN-I AM A MESSENGER CHOSEN BY GOD-THE CREATOR
TheReasonUK 10 months ago
@TheReasonUK forgive me Leyla, but you are so hot. I wanna pro-create with you. Damn!
kackleyjarrod 10 months ago
@TheReasonUK I wanna fuck you so hard baby, I am sorry but you are hot.
kackleyjarrod 10 months ago
Yeah Scientology is just another Peter Popoff... ha ha ha
Dolphidood 10 months ago
Superstition is nonsense. Anyone who believes in religion is bad at science and dreadful at history. Christians are as bad as Muslims, America is scornful and hypocritical when Christianity is considered. All of those that follow the bible are inherently stupid. DEATH to those that do. You IGNORANT fools. Death to Muslims, death to Christians! You all sck arse!!!!! And cock!!!!!
matthewdearsley123 11 months ago
Love it Mark. WBM you have summed it up perfectly!!
annoncangirl 11 months ago
Correction!!
Dont lie, and hurt anyone.
kotkee 11 months ago
secret society? lol every religion is against other religions every religion also has its truths and its misunderstandings , if you're going to replace variables in the explanation of each religion you will find that they pretty much all go along... so at least the schematic of how it all works has to be right, now the characters and representations if we really want no war or confusion, we should just stop arguing about it
jameskirkajfa 11 months ago
He isn't the wise beard man for nothing people.
DanzAzzie 11 months ago
this man is afraid of dying
kevrs2 11 months ago
@kevrs2 Who, me? Nahhh.
XENUTV 11 months ago
@XENUTV did i say dying? i meant being bald headed
kevrs2 11 months ago
Great analogy, wise beard man.
vvvmtlvvv 11 months ago
they got you hooked on the terms again ...............lol
See how clever this con artist of this cult is. Amazing .....I can see the strings attached to your shoulders. You seem a very intlegent man take another look.
Archie54able 11 months ago
You are the hero man! Wise Beard Hero!
TrueArcadio 11 months ago 21
How on earth in this day and age of technology is any person not smart enough to research what they are getting involved with?????
Come on humans are the most curious of creatures on the planet, and you are telling me that they dont use the internet to learn about all possible information that they can????
sunshineisfine2 1 year ago
I don't think of Christianity as a complete myth but you made a great point here.
iamitchey 1 year ago
tnx Man very educational! :)
ray4ix 1 year ago
Please Wikipedia: 'Qur'an and miracles'. And read the whole text. There are no miracles etc within the scriptures of that book. Peace.
boi187 1 year ago
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SupeHero00 1 year ago
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SupeHero00 1 year ago
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@boi187 There is no scientific miracles in the Koran!
You just interpret the scriptures the way you want to...
look at that:
watch?v=d3KoWsNK3ww
watch?v=1Zv2cZFoeR4
UNDERSTAND?
SupeHero00 1 year ago
Haha, look at these marker heads. Poor old unitologists...
cpmc1 1 year ago
I NEVER PAID TO GO TO CHURCH AND I ALSO KNEW JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD AT ABOUT 3YRS OLD OH AND I'M NOT RELIGIOUS
reaperfreaker 1 year ago
It Is A Misconception To Believe That Santa Claus Enters Through An Opening In The Chimney, When In Reality He Enters Through An Opening In The Heart.
--TheBA
oh, another thing: THE CULT OF $CIENTOLOGY SUCKS!
TheBornAnnoyed 1 year ago
I would like to read about the upper levels of scientology and what they are about.
Are there any sources from former Scientologists who have released these materials for public viewing?
kthorn612 1 year ago
@kthorn612 I would too. An't eva' gonna' be one, but don't you think its disheartening that so much info in un-released yet, while you have to pay for it, the members hardly know anything about it? I'll look around for it.
cpmc1 1 year ago
@cpmc1 I just think that if high level defectors release the golden-est of goodies from the highest levels of Scientology for public consumption then its mystique and value will go down...as well as expose any outlandish claims or fraud. This will devalue the teachings of the church and shred its reputation under scrutiny.
kthorn612 1 year ago
@kthorn612 Its sort of sad when an organization is doomed to fail when people become knowlegable of it.
cpmc1 1 year ago
@kthorn612 I also think that if any of your so call "god"-like beings were to be challenged in a psychic viewing your church will be embarassed. What powers? U describe the power of the "bindi", the great "portal". Yet after years of dedication & billions of scam dollars, do none among the millions of your followers even have any "abilities"? Not even one! HA
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago
@Wolfsbane909 Oh nononono, you can clearly see in the latest Mission Impossible movie that Tom Cruise can both fly and dodge bullets, hows that for a power? HA
Mordierbillig 1 year ago
@Mordierbillig really huh? Tom Cruise spent how much? much good it did him huh? I would like 2 challenge one of their top leaders to demonstrate such powers. Surely millions of their followers must see proof if they're to empty their wallets into the scam. What proof is there?
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago
@Wolfsbane909 You clearly don't understand sarcasm when it's smacked dead in front of your face
Mordierbillig 1 year ago
Well done, Mark. I have been watching your videos and you above all others rightly understand that in order to have anyone consider the alternative to ANYTHING, you must maintain credibility. You have rightly understood that we do this not by radically espousing our beliefs to others but objectively analyzing both sides of the issue and moderately presenting them. Your presentation was spot on.
Well done sir, I take my hat off to you for what you have done to end these fallacious practices.
kotetsu131 1 year ago
I'm to poor to be a true christian or a scientologist, so I go for the most natural and thing and also the way we all are born into before being brainwashed: Atheism :)
kaxitaksi 1 year ago
@kaxitaksi Being a Christian is free to all. Doesn't cost a penny. Christian churches pass around an offering plate that you can give if you can and still give you love if you can't. There's no such thing as being too poor to be a Christian.
9cvz 1 year ago
@9cvz ehh.. so the only thing u have to "sell" is your soul then? No tnx, my soul is to valuable so I stick to being an atheist. I have been an atheist since I was 7, the age of reason, when I saw through the lies teached in sunday school, Thank Dog! :))
kaxitaksi 1 year ago
@9cvz Yeah right...which is why most of them in the U.S. are registered 501c corporations.
kthorn612 1 year ago
@kthorn612 FREE TO ALL DEAR. If you walk into a Church that asks you to pay, you walked into a non-Christian Church.
9cvz 1 year ago
Carly Crutchfield = Scientology scam.
CarlyCrutchfield4ME 1 year ago
Tell all who take the Personality Test about XENU. And give them a DVD with the Panorama show on Scientology.
gina463210 1 year ago
Besides, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Shinto and most other REAL religions are based on actual ancient mythologies.
Scientology is the brainchild of a hack science fiction writer who himself was quoted as saying that starting a religion was "where the real money is".
leekenobi21 1 year ago
Mark is telling a story in simple language that slow people can understand. Christianity has little to do with it. Substitute any mainstream religion (Judaism,Islam,Hinduism,Buddhism) and the end of the story remains the same.Do you get it now ?
stayjit1 1 year ago
ok so since when do you have to pay money to be a christian? i dont understand. there is no need to pay any money in order to be a christian. you can give to your church but that's completely optional. could you explain?
mrdipallins 1 year ago
@mrdipallins I don't know why Mark hasn't replied himself. The point of the video, in part is that Christianity does not charge you to learn about it. He wasy saying, what if it did?
mmorgan0678 1 year ago
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Mark hates Christianity just as much as he hates Scientology
RedTailedTuna 1 year ago
Mark hates Christianity just as much as Scientology
RedTailedTuna 1 year ago
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@RedTailedTuna So do I, so does the Illuminati.
mikerules999 1 year ago
Well a lot of different christian churches have a tide payment of 10% of their income to the church and get nothing from it.
RedTailedTuna 1 year ago
@RedTailedTuna
Its called a "tithe". Its not mandatory and the money, in theory, is supposed to go to charities and missions and such. Unfortunately, there is no way of tracking the money once it leaves the room....so its quite understandable that nobody gives anymore. There are some Christians who actually donate their 10% to the charity themselves instead of handing it over to the church...which is quite commendable.
leekenobi21 1 year ago
Hey Christianity is real fucked some magic dude makes the world in 7 days then got mad at the people he made so he killed them
RedTailedTuna 1 year ago
@RedTailedTuna No powerful creator of the universe would ever take 6 days to create everything and then rest on the 7th. that means that the God is weak
mikerules999 1 year ago
HEY. You are saying less-than-positive things about scientology. You must be hiding something. And you are using the internet. Tell me, are you into kiddy porn?
Spherix60 1 year ago
@Spherix60 Um sir or maam or whatever you are, The following statement you just said amplifies your ignorance.
gravekeepersven 1 year ago
@gravekeepersven
...are you hiding something too?
If anyone is ignorant it is the scientologists, as repeatedly pointed out by Mark.
Spherix60 1 year ago
im a christian and i understand what mark is saying . every thing i belive in as a christian is out in the open for any one to read and see nothing is hiddent like it is in the cult of scientology . i have asked a few people what are the belifes of scientology but all i got was a run around and no answer at all . i dont think they even know what they belive in and thats sad . people can belive in what ever they want but at lest be truthful about it .
dawala1000 1 year ago 13
@dawala1000 It is sad these people just believe without even knowning. So horribly wrong, well scientology is not tolerated globally, in such countries like PRC, scientology is never welcomed, China not having any of that bullshit they're selling. Can't see for other parts of the world that this cult thrives in though.
I am sure the leaders have super powers, just simply because they say so, therefore it must be true right?! Even though they never display such powers.
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago
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@xenutv1 I find it very interesting when you are talking about the courses and say "yeah im making a bit more money at work and I can speak a bit better" from your time spent talking with ex scios, do you know if the beginning courses do acutually have any benifits? Is there any truth in what they offer at all?
ThePickstock 1 year ago
@xenutv1 I find it very interesting when you are talking about the courses and say "yeah im making a bit more money at work and I can speak a bit better" from your time spent talking with ex scios, do you know if the beginning courses do acutually have any benifits? Is there any truth in what they offer at all?
ThePickstock 1 year ago
@ThePickstock I think it's safe to say there are some benefits people can receive from those early courses but at what price? Hubbard cobbled together bits and pieces from people to make up his "tech." If there was no benefit whatsoever, no one would be tempted to continue. But that's the lure. There are other courses that can teach you to communicate or run a business without having you fall into Hubbard's trap or sign a billion year contract.
XENUTV 1 year ago 2
violetkitty411 ~ look sharp ~ believe Uuu Me
TJae1 1 year ago
Reading lots of hte comments... most people totally have no clue what the point of this video is. Great job Mark!
benzagel 1 year ago
I'm puzzled. Scientologists claim 8-10 million members and rising. Anon claims Scientology has 50,000 members and falling. How can we know? Is there a fair and impartial body that monitors membership, and can tell us the real deal?
jonathanmelia 1 year ago
@jonathanmelia There was a nationwide survey conducted by the City University of New York years ago. If you google them you can see all their findings.
ElizabethBathory7 1 year ago
@ElizabethBathory7 Many thanks: will do.
jonathanmelia 1 year ago
@jonathanmelia 8-10 million cult members? How many with actual powers? I bet u none, out of the 10 million, not a single one. yet constant cases of cult members using violence & fear to harrasse any opposition, guarding some secert they know NOTHING ABOUT. Xenu? lol if Xenu was real, I am sure Xenu would vaporize these guys, on adivce from the ones with real "powers". Of course i am sure they talk to "Xenu" all the time, because they have "powers" lol
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago
An excellent analysis of how a person can become immersed in Scientology. People slowly become entrenched in the religion, they don't go or fall for it all at once.
CygnusRising001 1 year ago
exactly!
fuckfuckfuckityfuck 1 year ago
At least, I mean...christianity can be interpreted in other way, and actually MAKES MORE SENSE than an all powerful alien tyrant called XEMU. =|
And christians are more nice with you <3 ...evangelists are as fucked up as scientologist LOL
Hellekali 1 year ago
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mpdalry1 1 year ago
It would have been really strange if when reading the Christian secret folder you said "*Jeez* I didn't know this." :)
elsquibbs 1 year ago
we are Legion...the terminal of the Geth, we will integrate into Normandy.....
IndoneVoid 1 year ago
@IndoneVoid there are /b/brothers at bioware
ThatFoolishBoy 1 year ago
@IndoneVoid the /b/rothers at Bioware pay homage to the community
ThatFoolishBoy 1 year ago
keep up the work Mark! I'm with you all the way!
reidthiss 1 year ago
fuck your a big strong guy, dont use your intlect, these people believe that alien souls live inside us. beat the fuck out those lanky cult fucks
IkyleINZ 1 year ago
I do think it is worth noting that according to the testimony of L Ron Hubbard's own son, L Ron Hubbard was fascinated by a British black magician Aleister Crowley, from whom he derived much inspiration. He also practised satanic and other occultic rituals in the 1940s, prior to the founding of his organization 'Scientology', which by its own nature is occultic.
fgsltwhghobstwbihsnp 1 year ago
Guys, Mark Bunker has never read a Scn book or taken a Scn class. How do you expect him to be able to tell you what its all about? He doesnt know. He just heard ( and started) a few rumors about Scn to create a story. Go to a Library, check out a book, and then decide for yourself if its good or bad. You really dont want Bunker making that decision for you. Im serious.
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
toryluvsrlh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 I wouldn't want you making that decision either. We can check into your books, and any books for that matter, and we do.
Knowledge is free.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@AvantAnon - "We"? How many personalities do you hide behind? Be a man son when you speak to me. Speak for yourself. Dont hide behind that babysitting club that calls itself anonymous. Stand out front and show everyone you are strong enough to speak your own mind. If you need to say "we" Im not interested. I dont like cowards. And please let Notre Dame & DUKE know knowledge is free. They missed that memo. (grin)
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 I represent anonymous, in much the same way you speak for your organization, Scientology. You know that though.
If you mean coming out from behind the group or my mask I must decline. I'd rather not lose my livelihood and reputation like Paulette Cooper and other critics your organization has attacked. Nor do I want to be stalked, my property destroyed or in any become a victim of fair game tactics.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@AvantAnon - You represent the babysitting club anonymous? And you wear a halloween mask? Does your mom know this? Do you guys get blue mats for naps? That is so cute! (grin)
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 Why just blue? There are other colors.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@AvantAnon - Yea there are but they are for the older kids silly. You kids are funny.
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 I thought we were super hackers and terrorist though. That's what I heard last from your organization.
So are we kids or terrorists? Or are we children terrorist? Cause that's just disturbing...
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@AvantAnon - Its sad that I have to explain all of this to you. No wonder you state to "expect us" but you never actually arrive. Only a child would do what anons have done. Hacking, bomb threats, racial hatred, etc. It stopped abit after one of you was sentenced to prison. Do you have any other silly questions that you dont know the answer to?
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 Oh I know the answers Tory. We're not terrorists. And even if we were, we're a community of no leadership, and few unified traits. Save one, the protest of the abuses of Scientology.
An arrest means nothing. We'll see our members return to us, and we'll keep protesting. And we will arrive.
Expect us.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@AvantAnon - "WE"? Are you really that small a man? You cant say "I" ? You really are a child arent you son? Well I tell ya what. You let me know when ya get here wont you? In your case its not Expect us. Its " Expectorant". Go sit down now before you hurt yourself young man. lol
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 One man can't really protest all that effectively. I think a large mass of people, protesting, on a planned day is a lot more effective.
We are legion.
We do not forget.
We do not forgive.
Expect us.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@AvantAnon - Yea in theory that makes sense. sadly for you, anon numbers have dropped so badly that it really might just be you there all by yourself. It looks like you are going to have to change your cheezy slogan to " Expect ME". roflmao
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 Where did you hear that? I don't know that there's any proven way to measure our strength.
I will show up by myself. If I have to.
And just so you know, we've heard your numbers are going down too. And that's from actual research.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@AvantAnon - lmao
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes - Maggie Khun
I intend to do just that, to anyone and everyone who violates civil rights and the rights of others. You're in a losing battle. Laugh all you want, justice never sleeps. The truth will make itself known.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@AvantAnon - Well I heard your shaking voice and even thought it attempts to destroy my rights in the name of evil, I forgive you. " Forgive them for they know not what they do" - Jesus Christ. Your name "Legion" comes from Satan and it makes sense. You cant win son. All of life itself is against you. You will fall and I wont have to lift a finger to make it happen. You can expect that.
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 We are Anonymous. It is true that we are legion. It means many, a multitude of people. We are not evil. We desire freedom for the people trapped in your organization.
How dare your organization hold people against their will! How dare they stalk people! How dare they order abortions!
We seek only that the Church remove it's shroud of secrecy, and that the leadership is reformed. You may practice your beliefs. BUT NO ONE CAN BE MADE TO AGAINST THEIR WILL.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@AvantAnon - Thats good son. Better get to polishing that mask cause you have alot of work to do. Do ya still wear the cape? Does it still have the big pink "A" on the front? God you must look a sight. Well good luck to ya .. ( Twilight Zone music playing in the background)
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 Apparently you don't care about civil rights. But don't worry. If your church opens it screen of privacy to show the world there is no oppressive RPF, and that the claims made by ex-members are simply slander, than we'll leave.
We don't oppose your civil rights. We just oppose the abuses we perceive within. And until those claims can be proven erroneous and unsubstantial you can expect us.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 No the name legion comes from the roman military unit consisting of 4200 legionaries. The word legion was used only to say that thee were a large number of demons in the man. You can't win if you can't come up with an argument with merit.
olstar18 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 We are one and we are many. It simply means that I as an individual choose to speak out against this cult but we as a group have made the same decision for differing reasons. Ever try breaking a bundle of sticks?
olstar18 1 year ago
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@toryluvslrh2 Youre a fucking moron
Hypn0Guru 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2 Have you ever considered the possibility that what you have been told to explain was a lie.
olstar18 1 year ago
@AvantAnon
Most certainly disturbing. Esspecially since Tluvs stated in multiple posts he would like to slap people who he considers children.
I believe it's a $cientology requirement. Which explains why it is asked in their crappy free gullibility test. If you answer that with yes you are just a few hundredthousand dollar away from Xenu OT level and the aliens that reside in your body.
Since most people are not so perverted they see $cientology for the scam and cult that it is.
LRonAnonymous 1 year ago
@LRonAnonymous Indeed it is. Ah I didn't know, that is indeed disturbing. XD
No wonder they find so many people that "Are a danger to themselves and others." In Scientology language, it's actually backwards. You're a danger if you're not one, once you've had your soul ripped away, you're finally fit for society.
Their belief that sympathy is evil, due to the fact it's non-survival is a telling sign of all things Scientology. They may use sympathy for their own survival though.
AvantAnon 1 year ago
Hail Wise Beard man! Scourge of a crappy cult, right-hand man of the supreme Rulah Xenu himself, defender of justice and bringer of the best Obi Wan impression I ever heard.
LRonAnonymous 1 year ago
God is not a joke..you will meet him at the pearly gate and yes he will ask you why you didnt beleive
WildernessTree 1 year ago
@WildernessTree And the atheist answers ,"Oh, Sorry, I guess it's because there was no credible evidence." And God sayeth unto he, "Good work, you may pass onto paradise." A Christian approaches, "Why did you believe?" The Christian answers "My Pastor delivered a really good sermon, and I loved the bible." "You believed just because someone told you?" Says God, anger rising in his voice. "Well...yeah" voice quavering. "You are unworthy, you naive gullible servant. You may not pass!" The End.
MsMrNoface 1 year ago
Hey, I have an Honest question about the Scientologist beleifs....that is if someone out there, or perhaps even the poster of the clips, can answer it for me. I am just curious...I know you get to the different levels in Scientology basically by paying then, and then going through some sort of ritual or something...well my question is: is their a standard waiting period that must be adhered to between levels? Or could you just go through every level there is in like a week, if had the money?
frankensteinmoneymac 1 year ago
@frankensteinmoneymac I would take more than a week but, yes, if you could pay for it and had the time, you could whip up the bridge at an accelerated pace.
XENUTV 1 year ago
@XENUTV Thanks...I was alwasy curious about that...PS sorry if I had the occasional bad grammer in that question ......"if had the money", etc. LOL! I think I was half asleep when I wrote it!
frankensteinmoneymac 1 year ago
@frankensteinmoneymac - You can keep going on your auditing or classes. Why wait? And you can have family audit you for FREE if you co-audit. You can take the Basic classes at home to save a few bucks if money is tight. never heard of the ritual thingy you mentioned. Its just like going to class at college. The auditing part will amaze you if you like the idea of learning about yourself and why you are the way you are.
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2
Yes, like I said, if you think holding two tin cans whilst some kid asks about your sex life and about your innermost fantasies, for $40 per hour, is going to give you "enlightenment", then go ahead.
But like the majority of people who left the cult after a few sessions, you'll see it only "enlightens" your wallet.
toryluvsrlh2 1 year ago
religion is a joke, plain and simple
TheJoeFlaccoShow 1 year ago
All this PC talks lends itself to athiesm....easy to see where this is going.
Fair play in calling out cults comes at a cost when God is involved.
WildernessTree 1 year ago
@WildernessTree Im not sure I see your meaning? Would you mind expanding on that a bit?
frankensteinmoneymac 1 year ago
@frankensteinmoneymac God is real...scientology is not
WildernessTree 1 year ago
@WildernessTree - Philippians 5-11 : Let the same mind be in you that was ALSO in Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be EQUAL with God.. Oh yes Virginia there is most definately a Scientology! You show me a Christian who talks bad about anothers beliefs and I'll show you the person that Christ turned his back on.
toryluvslrh2 1 year ago
@toryluvslrh2
L Ron Hubbard himself said that Jesus was a pedophile.
You can Google it yourself.
He said that Christianity was implanted in a 3D cinema 75 million years ago by evil alien Xenu.
So if you believe in Christ, there is nothing you will get from Scientology apart from upset.
toryluvsrlh2 1 year ago
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xenutv1 Cant really talk about comparing Christianity and cults in a public forum like this without stepping up and saying what you really beleive.so far you have not so I will say it for us all
Jesus is the son of God and scientology is Scam Buisness started by a science fiction writer.
WildernessTree 1 year ago
@WildernessTree You really should speak for yourself and I will speak for myself.
xenutv1 1 year ago 28
@xenutv1 ~ interesting ~ it's amazing the similar tactics ~ that christo-fakes & scientologist intiate ~ think Ur street videos are educational/interesting ~ 2 corth 11:14 * peace * ~ Is Jesus God ~ he secured a federal holiday & changed history ~ not 2 shabby *
TJae1 1 year ago
@WildernessTree are you aware what you have said here is arrogant, prideful and intolerant...the OPPOSITE of the teachings of the christ. Scientology Beliefs ARE NOT the problem. Get somthing right.
ThePickstock 1 year ago
@WildernessTree All religions are cults :P
Suck it up hypocrite.
Deniecu 1 year ago
@WildernessTree Mark is making a good point here. He's saying how it would come across, if: Christianity did the same thing as $cientology. NO RELIGION (save Mormonism with their temple ceremonies) does what $cientology does and, even, the Mormons don't charge tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars and bait-'n'-switch their people along like the $cilons do.
His comparison is about tactics and not the respective dogmas of these two religions.
dakotagerman1 1 year ago
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"Not to say one is right and one is wring" Sorry mark christianity is right and Scientology is wrong......You have a god thing going here,tell the whole truth.It dosent matter who knows you beleive in god...just say it to thier face here where you preach
WildernessTree 1 year ago
@WildernessTree I'm not preaching.
xenutv1 1 year ago 15
@xenutv1 I applaud you for your efforts in exposing these people. It's horrific that they get away with calling themselves a Church. I used to think it was comical hearing the story of xenu but it's actually sad that people are fooled into thinking they need to pay absurd amounts of money to be freed of body thetans just because a dead science fiction writer said they should. I wonder how many times LRH laughed his space balls off going to the bank with money he made from his xenu spoof
9cvz 1 year ago
@WildernessTree You spelled "believe" wrong.
BAB13100 1 year ago
@WildernessTree and you have proof to back up your assertion that christianity is right? because im sure theres a lot of people who would be interested to hear that
hXc232 1 year ago
does anybody actually get what hes trying to say here? cos all it has sparked off is a stupid argument about dogma, the belief isn't the point, its the way they go around disseminating this belief and how they respond to criticism, people accuse christianity of misleading people all the time but the pope doesnt flip out and have unflattering documents destroyed by infiltrating government offices like in operation snow white (at least not publicly, but please dont start another bloody argument)
hXc232 1 year ago
@WildernessTree actually no religion is right, no human has ever met or witnessed a god, no human has made their life better by following religion. Atheism and Agnosticism is the only way to go.
mikerules999 1 year ago
@mikerules999 Religion can be beautiful thing, it can lead you to get better, to work on yourself, but of course first u have to think and not belive litteraly everything that church tells you. Just my opinion. No offence.
Sorry for my poor english
phoenixxx148 1 year ago
another big difference is that the carpenter is actually the son of God...not a science fiction writer....step up and Say one is right amigo have the sack to admit it. Your PC attitude is dangerous as well.you seem like a good person
WildernessTree 1 year ago
@WildernessTree Any PROOF of this, or are you making biased claims to balance out a video attempting to be unbiased
arachnophile01 1 year ago
@arachnophile01 Proof of God? You are asking for god to prove himself? If that is true you have been denied the one thing god hopes you to have....Faith
WildernessTree 1 year ago
@WildernessTree With that argument, anything goes. If you are asking for proof of a flying star-nosed mole in my backyard, you've been denied the one thing it hopes you have... Faith
arachnophile01 1 year ago
@arachnophile01 God dosent need to prove himself to you,me or anyone.We have the option to choose...it seems you have chosen poorly
God lives
WildernessTree 1 year ago
@WildernessTree The mole in my backyard needs not prove itself, we all must choose. it seems you have chosen poorly
the mole lives
arachnophile01 1 year ago
If a scientologist found out what GMT can do for him he would leave the cult of scientology at once. There will be certain rules you have to follow if you want to reach the success, BUT the rules are on voluntary basis. You will in most cases very quickly find out it is important to follow the rules, if you want to reach the success. You can only join a course if you become member of my GLS. GLS stands for Global Life Style. When you become member you will be able to call yourself a LOGICOLOG.
globe255 1 year ago
Im the inventor of the GMT. It stands for: Global Maximum Truth. Its simply the truth internationally. I sell 10 courses for a fair price. The price you pay for a course is a value price, what means you can get a certain amount of information from the course, which will make you capable to do certain things to understand yourself, no matter where you are in the world. When you have taken course nr. 5, you will be able to have a successful business without problems.
globe255 1 year ago
the world is littered with suckers, every minute of it.
fsxmantra 1 year ago
One month since sign in as others who are against and start rumors ....what goes around comes around.......
msrattlespaces 1 year ago