Punishing one person for the actions of another is immoral. If we use the Adam and Eve story to explain evil, suffering and death then we are saying that god is immoral and not a forgiving god.
An entertaining video, but very misleading. The video reinforces the myth of the Adam & Eve story as being a factual event. The story is a PARABLE, and it should be presented as such to show the underlining message it was designed to explain. Without the underlining message, it is just a story of male-female couple living in the forest who....
why u Christians Damned do that u Represent This Great personalities huh ? those are Prophets and messengers do you know what that mean they not normal people to Represent them in a fucking movie plez get what i said they are greats not normal people fuck u
Darwin's 'On the Origin of species' etc can be read free at Project Gutenberg org. For more on science & nature try books by top scientists Richard Dawkins, ' Unweaving the rainbow ' & ' The greatest show on earth ' & PZ Meyers , Victor Stenger, website Talkorigins, Try John C. Lennox V Peter Atikins debate on youtube. Also on Youtube BonoboBill, evidence of common ancestry: human chromosome 2. Also Ken Miller on Pariskillton. Also try reading about endogenous retrovirus & provirus.
Adam and Eve chose to reject God in favor of the creation for they believed that the creation was better than God. All people have tasted evil and can decide if they wanna stay in it. They also saw the damage that it did to God in Jesus and to the rest of creation. They can either harden their hearts or let God fix the problem and cause us to fall in love with in, w/o which eternity is misery. Perfect love for a perfect being forever = pure bliss. All else forever = pure misery
@EGMAG egmag creates a fantasy world, evolves from slime, declares himself superior to slime, showers off the slime from under his arms, returns to his bed in the psyche ward, giggling
There is an interesting debate between orthodox and sceptical Bible scholarship. For higher criticism of the Bible try top scholars Robert M Price, John W Loftus, Dan Barker, Valerie Tarico, Keith Parson, Hector Avalos, Ken Pulliam, Israel Finkelstein, Gary Greenberg, Earl Doherty, Richard Carrier, Ken Humphreys, C.Dennis Mckinsey, Bart Ehrman, Truth-saves, Talkorigins. Try reading a summary of the whole history of world religions & history of protestantism & comparative religion.
"Logic does not exist apart from a mind that is able to form True or Accurate connections. The way that people are able to infer a True relation based on irrational nature is a mystery."
Are you saying that logic ceases to exist without a mind to comprehend it, and that one's relationship with a god is a mystery to science? If so, then demonstate how what you have said is even remotely true.
Luk_3:38, Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. Rom_5:14, Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
God created Satan and allowed him to roam His garden (Gen 3:1) He created Satan with one purpose in mind - that Satan should decieve, He places Satan with imperfect, gullable humans (Gen3:6) He planted the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and made it look beautiful & irrisistable - not ugly and forbodeing .. This was not a 'fall' .. this was a set up.. Men have no 'free will' - a free will is something that is free from all causality - God intended for men to disobey - its how He rolls..
No-one can tell where the Garden of Eden was; the world before the flood was completely destroyed. On the matter of their skin color: the creation science belief is that they were both brown, having the genetic ABILITY to eventually produce offspring of such variance as we have today...
update update people those questions are already too old..since every thing started form big bang. y? they have proved because we had a hubble space telescope we can scan the heaven and the space and galaxy itself expanding and just like a tape we can back every off to a single point about 13.7 billion years. but some religion said everything start only 6000 years and have no prove why is that?lol
lol all your questions already had answers just cause u never read science and physic do some research maybe string theory can help you we are made out of stars dust and scientists successed creating form simple chemical to complex chemical of an early earth and how they joined together to created life. they can even create a new species i think later we will become god of some kind of species lolllll...
EVERYONE SHUT UP! ADAM AND EVE IS A CHRISTIAN STORY, AND THERE WAS NO FRICKING BIG BANG WHAT SO EVER! IF THE BIG BANG WAS REAL, WHEN DID IT START, HOW DID IT BEGIN HUH HUH?!?!?!!? HOW DID THAT PLASMATIC (WHATEVER) BALL COME UP?!
finalfantasy, shut yo' f#cking mouth and go back to worshipping albert Eintein. Jakob is doing this world a bit of good telling about God. It's about time to, with all the people here with no religion and have no purpose of being here. you should listen with great curiosity, not argue like you are an ignorant teenager on their period.
What did you expect to accomplish with your comment? You really think I am going to just stop asking relevant questions just because it is your wish for me to? Fool. I worship no one, nor am I sheep to any foolish doctrine of religious dogma; which I suspect that you may be. Ignorant as sheep; thus you cannot live without a shepherd telling you what to do. I am glad and I take pride that I am no longer such a pathetic follower. You are the one ignorant of the real world.
if u don't fucking believe in science and physic don't fucking use any stuffs of house house tv fan microwave lazer light even when u sick don't drink any medicien god can cure u....let c u die like a duck and though u back to stone man..
There is proof of God's existence. You will find it if you're interested in but. But if you have a strong belief in Atheism, you're just wasting your time and being ignorant. =]
@DarksideWarriorK Please, never stop preaching your truth. It's people like you that get me through life. Seriously, if it weren't for religious idiots who would I laugh at?
@DarksideWarriorK Take away your bronze age book full of stone age myths and prove your god exists without it. If he did then you would not have to rely on the book at all. Sadly for you, everything about your faith is wrapped up in that contradictory, error ridden piece of ancient fiction.
God exist because he does. Right now he's hiding behind your door eating taco bell because they are outside the bun. Sorry you have no faith in what created you. Hey it's better than saying we evolved from monkeys. I can wait till Planet of the apes come. Ima be like eeeeeeeee! Waka wkaka banana! Hehehe. The proof that God exist is the prophecy's in the bible. All the prophecies came true. That Babylon wil be destroyed and never rebuilt, or that people will kill the truth (war).
@DarksideWarriorK I agree with you, dude. I took a theology class and one of the things we were talking about was the millions of true prophecies that athiests and agnostics can't explain. Isaiah practically outlined Cyrus the Great's entire life and even told the Jews his name, like, 1 or 2 centuries before Cyrus was born. How's that for proof that God's real.
@JakobDailes You are denying reality to try to prove the unprovable. There is not a proven single prophecy on the bible. You take it as read that the bible was written chronologically but it is widely accepted that this is not so. There are many good reference books detailing the philology and linguistics of the bible. You should look them up and educate yourself.
@JakobDailes I know the Bible was not written chronologically (wait, so Moses wasn't alive at Creation?). That doesn't mean the prophecies aren't true. Like I said above: "Cyrus". That entire thing is true. And since Isaiah wrote his own book... do YOU think he lived to be 100/200? Isaiah's prophecies about the Diaspora came true. All the prophecies about Jesus came true (I dare you to tell me one prophecy Jesus didn't fulfill according to the Bible).
Duhhhhhhhh. Crazy head. Back then people didn't have science technology, but they somehow knew the earth was round and that there was black wholes and planets and some other weird shit. Oh wait, know what you're gonna say! It was Michael Jackson's doing. He told the people 7 thousand years ago that Mars and Venus was next to earth. Duhh. Silly me. I now know the truth. Michael Jackson's an alien! No wonder he changed colors. Hahaha! I love humanity. >.>
@DarksideWarriorK Of course they did. And they knew the sun went round the earth and that the moon was a light and that you could put striped sticks in the ground to ensure you bred striped goats and rubbing a dead crow on your earlobe would cure leprosy and you could live in a fish for three days. We could have learnt so much from them.
@Huttate1 Why isn't the Bible useful? If you take away the Bible, you might as well also take away all the history books, because that's what the Bible is: God's history book. God can be explained without it, too. Evolution doesn't add up (except for micro-, at least there's proof that it exists) and neither do any religions other than Judeo-Christian. Also, if there's no God, than why do you athiests always persecute us (because you don't want to admit we're right?)
@Huttate1 How can you prove millions of occurances in which people died, were at death, or were fatally ill, and were suddenly healing and progressing? Even some athiests have attributed the word "miracle" to them, and who's the Miracle-Maker? And how is it that almost all of these occurances happened as a result of prayer? Who must be real once you disprove all views of beginning (Evolution, Big-Bang,etc.) other than Creation? God. That's what I can think of off top of my head.
@JakobDailes Millions? Really? I don't think so. ANd what about all the millions (yes really) of cases when an innocent baby dies despite prayer? Surely that would disprove your god just as easily as your argument proves it. If I could show you that prayer failed to work 999 times out of a hundred would that prove that god did not exists and there were a few times when a patient recovered for as yet unknow reasons?
Provide me with a peer reviewed medical rep[ort of just one miracle.
@Huttate1 If an innocent baby dies it goes to Heaven. Who says the death of innocent child/grown Christian is punishment for noninnocence? I can't give you the medical report (I'd kinda have to break into his house/into the hospitals he went to) but I'm friends with a guy whose eye got shot in a freak accident. His eye actually deflated and shrivelled up. Several operations later and doctors thought he'd be blind in that eye. Me and my other friends prayed. Within a week he was fully healed.
@Huttate1 Innocent babies/little children go to Heaven. So do Christians. So could you please make a clearer point (I don't think anyone's scared of eternal happiness in Paradise)
@JakobDailes But I thought there were no innocents according to the bible. Which is it? WHich pieces of the bible do you select to inform yopur opinion?
Oh, and you forgot the evidence for those miracles - odd that christians have such poor memories.
@Huttate1 I meant "innocent" as in Christian or forgiven of sin. Also, it's common knowledge for a Christian that any young child or infant, being unable to have accepted or denied Christ yet, will be accepted into Heaven. I select my knowledge from all the Bible. Actually read it like it's serious material (NOT TO BE RIDICULED) and you'll see that what I'm saying is there. I'm not asking you to convert, tho it would be good if u pleas would, but just read it seriously.
@Huttate1 Also, what evidence? I told you before... Cade Meeks, he's a real person. He's who I was talking about. Come to PCB, and you can meet him. He's not something I just made up. HE'S REAL AND SO IS HIS EYE. I swear on the Bible, may God strike me down if I'm lying.
@Huttate1 No one. Really? Search it up. Give me proof. TRUTHFULLY tell me there's no medical evidence of any miracle ever happening in a hospital. I've read. I've met people. If you tell me there's no miracle-healing that has ever happened in a hospital, I know your lying. Don't just tell me. Show me. And even if there are no healing-miracles today, there are in the Bible. God still exists, whether or not he heals someone. "The LORD giveth and the LORD taketh away."
@JakobDailes So you start by telling me there are definately miracles - though you offer no proof of course. You then say "even if there are no healing-miracles today" - Sorry? I thought you said here definately were.
Is it that there definately are but there might not be?
Your gid exists in a book and in your head but nowhere else.
@Huttate1 I was speaking hypothetically. However, if you want to sit the straw man back up in his chair to hurl more fallacies at him, I guess we all have our ways of getting rid of anger. Also, I have no idea what a gid is, but Yahweh bless u, my friend. He is real, and he loves u and died 4 u. Please don't let that have been a wasted death.
@JakobDailes Then you have blind ignorant faith based on a stone age myth and nothing else. If the delusion comforts you, fine. Just resist the urge to prosthelytize unless you have something more than the nothing you have presented to back it up.
@JakobDailes As there is not a single piece of evidence that he ever existed and plenty of evidence that the gospels were manufactured long after he died to fuel the apocolyptic cult, I have no interest in you reciting the bible that I know so well.
The bible is a rehashed stone-age myth, written down around 500BC. The smallest amount of research into comparitive mythology would enlighten you in this area.
@Huttate1 Have u seen my profile. I'm a mythologist and folklorist. I know as much as and more than any normal guy on the street about this stuff. I kno enough that it's obvious to me that Christianity is true. However, if I cannot help you using the Bible, I can't really help u at all.
@JakobDailes If you really know what you state then you will know that the bible is rehashed myths and nothing more. You will know that there is no evidence for Abraham, Moses, Solomon, David or Jesus as historical figures. You will know that the apostles never wrote the gospels. You will know that there is no evidence for your god outside the bible and that it was written by men for their own purposes.
In short you will know it is a myth just like all the rest and should be treated as such.
@Huttate1 Myth? Has it ever occured to u that all those myths must be based on something or they wouldn't be so similar? Answer: They were all based on Biblical history, or got their ideas from Biblical history. If Abraham's fake, then why'd the Hebrews make him up? If Moses is fake, how come there are chariot parts and skeletons at the bottom of the Reed Sea? David, Solomon, and Jesus are in history-books, so if they're fake, how come ATHIEST HISTORIANS are telling kids they're real?
@JakobDailes Sir, u r simply not making sense. If historians and archaeologists say all these people are real, and u claim to be gathering ur info from them, why r u contradicting them? Jesus is real, he is the Saviour, and he died for us all! God bless u, ur in my prayers.
@JakobDailes There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ existed. You are deluding yourself in the belief that some mythical figure back engineered to fit an iron age myth can somehow affect your life.
Get a grip. Take charge of your life and stop using this superstitious crutch as an excuse for your inadequacies.
@Huttate1 You know what, dude. So far, you've given me no acceptable prrof that these guys are all fakers or lies. Why should I believe you if all you're going to tell me is that I'm wrong, without any proof or any gift of what's right?
@JakobDailes The burden of proof is on you. I can tell you that there is no evidence for their existence - as I have. You would need to provide that evidence, otherwise concede you are simply following blindly in a superstitious myth.
@JakobDailes I am saying that their is no unequivocal evidence that they existed. You need to define what you consider a history book but I guarantee you will not find a peer review jury tested piece by any historian confirming the historicity of any of them.
@Huttate1 Here's a book right on my desk: The Usborne Encyclopedia of World History by Jane Bingham, Fiona Chandler, and Sam Taplin. The book supports evolution and atheism, yet it talks about Moses, David, Solomon, the prophets, Jesus, etc. all as historical people.
@JakobDailes That's just one of many school textbooks (i forget the names so don't hound me) I've read before that are by atheists yet state the same thing. Tho they don't believe in God or Jesus, these people all know that the earlier-mentioned people r real.
Why would myths that predate the bible be based on the bible. There is nothing in any creation myth that suggests it is true. The flood myths are widespread is no surprise as we know there were several major flooding events / sea level rises.
Why'd the Danes make up Thor? The Sumerians, Dagon? Show me a history book that names these people as real.
Ron Wyatt's chariots in the Red Sea, just like his Noah's Ark, are frauds accepted only by the gullible. Please do some research.
@Huttate1 Jesus is the ultimate hero. All myths relate to the Bible due to their being foreshadowings. God allowed certain people to know certain parts of his glory and his work, but only enough that one religion would be right, while all others would be myth. How else can all these mythologies have so much in common, even if they are countries apart?
@JakobDailes Jesus Christ was a rehash of the Dagon water myth of Sumeria. He never existed.
Nothing in your bible is supernatural. It was written by men who thought that striped sticks made striped goats; insects had four legs and you could cure leprosy by rubbing crows entrails on your ear lobes.
@Huttate1 What is the Dagon water myth? How does it relate to Christ?
Oh, thank you ever so much for informing me of this. Of course people who didn't know anything about biology knew nothing about religion. It just fits so perfectly (y'kno, since religion and biology r the same thing and have so much to do with each other). }:(
For ur info, dude, the Israelites knew so many things about the earth no one else in their time did: things scientists today agree on fully.
@JakobDailes Call yourself a mythologist? So you were lying! What a surprise that is. If you do not know who Dagon was you have no right to claim you can argue a point. If you do not know why the bishops mitre (complete with tails) resemples a fish head and body you have no right to call yourself a mythologist.
Next you will tell me you have not heard of Innana, Ishtar or the Rig Veda.
@Huttate1 I kno who Dagon and Ishtar r, dude. I just wanted to know what myth u were referring to (to be more specific, I'm a WESTERN mythologist. happy?). Also state the relation to Jesus please.
@Huttate1 The fish-head is supposed to be the ikhthys, the fish representing Christ (who was a CARPENTER not a fisher). Wow. One similarity left. Only one. THAT'S SO MANY! :D Also, Dagon appears in the Bible only because he was a popular Philistine god. And the Philistines and Hebrews were at war for a few years. Ooh.
But I forgot to respond to your assertion and will now. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the Israelites knew anything that was not common knowledge at the time. Name one thing if you disagree.
Oh, if you were asking me where stripey sticks, crows etc are in the bible I can only assume that means you have not even read it.
@Huttate1 I have read the Bible many times, and I don't remember where that stuff is (so obviously ur either lying or need to tell me where so I'll believe u). Oh, and that one thing (tho I could name others this is first to come to mind): the Water Cycle. They knew the entire water cycle. It's in there, so "I can only assume that means you have not even read it." }:)
@JakobDailes You didn't get very far! Genesis 30:37 - stripey goats. Leviticus 14:1 and on - bizarre treatments for leprosy.
And sorry but Ecclesiastes does not describe the entire water cycle. I just know you read that off a creationist website because if you had read the passage you would not embarass yourself by repeating the claim.
@Huttate1 Jacob exposed the juices of the sticks and set them in the flocks' water. They sprinkled the blood of the crows ceremoniously and used herbs for the cure (did you only see "bird" and "kill"?). Also, thank you for informing me that the entire Bible is Ecclesiastes. }:(
@Huttate1 herbs could affect the traits of hair color. The blood was ceremonial: a sacrifice. And in case u don't know: Herbs are used in Medicine. Would you like some more 3rd grade educational lessons?
In Genesis, it says that when forming the atmosphere God put water there (water-vapor, clouds, rain). There was somewhere in Isaiah where I saw it the other day, but i can't remember where. I'll find it later.
I said the water cycle, not god put the water there.
Please. Read what you are writing. You sound desperate and rediculous. Your profile says that you are mature - time to put away the children's stroies dontcha think?
@Huttate1 God is real. I know he is. He does everything in nature, without him nothing would happen and everything, even time and space, would cease to exist. Look around in Isaiah, there's more stuff about the water-cycle in there. If the Bible is just a bunch of children's stories, how come, according to ur favorites, u think it's not for kids? And for ur info, dude, the Bible is all 100% true. If u don't believe the Bible, WHAT do u believe?
Where's that evidence? Don't say "its all around you" because there is no connection between the universe and god. And what about those millions of people that believe in other gods than your insanly jealous one?
@finalfantasy8911 If ur going to pick a religion, you should pick Christianity. I've done research and the way I see it, Christianity is the only true religion, because all the others are nonsense that is either based on it or is outdated polytheism. How is there no connection b/n the universe and God. He created it, didn't he? Yes he did. What do you need evidence for? (I can't give u all the evidence proving God in the world in 1 comment)
HAHAHA, well I'll give you one thing I find hilarious. You said "How is there no connection b/n the universe and God. He created it didn't he? Yes, he did. What do you need evidence for?" AAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Now I KNOW that the universe has an explanation for its existance; it didn't just come out of no where. But as for exactly what explanation that is, I go to science.
Science is what keeps the universe going, the world spinning, and your body intact. Without the logic of science (laws of gravity, mathamaticsm, etc.) the universe would fall apart in a matter of seconds or less. Plus, science is peer reviewed, observed, and proven by mankind. Religion is just based on faith, the hope/desire for something to be true.
@finalfantasy8911 You realize science, point blank, means "knowing", right. Oh, so it isn't God or Nature or anything Science speaks of! It's us humans knowing things! Thank u so much for informing me that we're the center of the universe. Also, thank u for informing me that without the reasoning of knowledge the universe would fall apart. U should really invent the human-ocentric view!
Who's dumb now? Also, Religion is based on faith, AND evidence counting out the stupid things others believe.
NO! NO! NO! AHA HA HA! You are still the dumb one, XD. Let me try to liberate you from your confusion. Just because humans understand the science of our universe doesn't mean we are gods or the center of the universe (because we certainly ARE NOT). It only means that we are knowledgable of the world around us so that we can survive as a species. Scientific laws can be proven to exist by mankind with observable and comprehensible evidence. Unlike god, thus so many religions exist.
@finalfantasy8911 God gives us our knowledge. If science is proven by observable evidence, then tell me, how do u observe that at the beginning of the universe a cell apparently just appeard and set in motion all of evolution? How did that happen? Obviously u didn't read my comment: What u've been saying is that without science (the human knowledge and understanding of the universe) there would be no universe. So why didn't the earth just disappear in the Stone Age, when science didn't exist?
NO, stop getting confused! Science exists independant from human beings. Humans do not determine what science is, we only observe it in order to understand it. Science had existed from the beginning of the universe and perhaps before it. As for evolution (which by the way has nothing to with the origins of the universe) began from simple molecules that orignated from the beginning, then over large amounts of time became more complex organisms.
@finalfantasy8911 Ur the one confused, dude. This is the definition of science:
science - n., derived from Latin "scio" ("to know"), knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.
Thanx for telling me what I already knew about evolution. Now could u answer my question: How do u observe that a cell (or molecule) apparently just appeard and set in motion all evolution? How did that happen?
I assume that you want all the details on the origin of evolution; so the best thing I can do for your eager willingness to learn about abiogenesis is to lead you to an abundance of information on the subject. Go to google and type in "talk origins evolution", then click on the link that says "the talk origins archive: Evolution FAQs" There you should be able to get all your questions answered than on a meager youtube response. Your welcome.
@finalfantasy8911 Yes. I want all the details on evolution. That's exactly what I said. Not like I asked where it started or anything. Sir (or Miss, I suppose, I don't know who u r), I understand evolution, and I believe it, except (I'm gonna start speaking in CAPS in hope that u understand) IF EVERYTHING STARTED WITH EVOLUTION, WHERE DID EVOLUTION START? WHERE DID THOSE FIRST MOLECULES COME FROM?
" IF EVERYTHING STARTED WITH EVOLUTION, WHERE DID EVOLUTION START?"
You continue to show me your ignorance. ONLY LIFE ON EARTH began with evolution. Evolution is only relevant for life on earth, not the stars, galaxies, black holes, or anything else out in space
(except possibly life on other planets). Evolution is not the beginning of the universe.
In all of your research, you seem to be ignorant on important scientific facts. Since you are asking me about them I would recommend that you read books on evolution, chemistry, etc. And "how do u observe that at the beginning of the universe a cell...", scientists are able to do that because they have a certain level of understanding of how the universe (biology, paleontology, etc.) operates and through rational thinking and evidence conclude a logical origin of life.
@finalfantasy8911 So what I understand here is that u don't want to tell me the scientific "facts" b/c I could prove u wrong. If u disagree, then simply ANSWER MY QUESTION.
Do not be over confident in your abilities jakob. You are not the superior in this circumstance. Its not that I don't want to tell you the facts out of concern of being proved wrong (that might be you); I am trying to figure out how I can bring some understanding to your mind polluted by your religous arrogance.
@finalfantasy8911 Then y don't u answer my question? It's a simple question: where did those first molecules that u claim sparked evolution come from?
Jakob, stop wasting my time. If you had wanted to know where everything came from, just ask the question instead of back tracking bit by bit; we will get things done faster that way. But in the beginning, the universe was a singularity; yes the entire universe was compressed into a very small single point. Then eventually, the singularity exploded into what we call the big bang. Where the singularity came from is unknown because man lacks the appropiate tools to find out.
@finalfantasy8911 How do u know it exploded? All the Big Bang states is that the universe is drifting apart (i even believe it was u who told me that, i'm not sure tho). How do we kno it was even once at a small point? If "O" is the universe today, and "." is the universe as u say it began, how do we kno it didn't begin as "o".
Some suspect that this universe is eternal, that it is all there is. While some, suspect that there is a more bizarre realm of science beyond this universe; a realm where possibly billions of other universes with different physical laws exist. But those are speculations, as of now man does not know where that singularity actually or most likely came from.
How have I not answered your questions? Are you just ignoring my comments as if they do not exist? What is wrong with your mental processes? I HAVE answered your questions in abundance!
If a child has lived on a tiny isolated island all his life and decides to sit on the beach and look up at the night sky. How is that child supposed to KNOW that the creator of the universe is your specific god of christianity. I will tell you how he would "know"; by some christian coming up to him from somewhere and bribing him with the good stuff that christianity has to offer, thus to which the child might like the bribe enough to catch the "blind faith".
In other words, just observing the immense diversity and complexity of the universe is not enough to come to the conclusion that a god did it; UNLESS there is much resonable evidence to support the idea (and no the bible doesn't count). You must go and find out the truth by utilizing science with a rational mind. Yes it is tempting to believe such a heartwarming idea, that there is a male god beyond the universe that loves and cares about you, but that doesn't make it true.
Based on your previous comments on this video, you seem to be quite bold in your religious faith. Why don't you present to me the evidence you have found through your research so that I may be enlighted by your god, who seems to be a man since people often refer to god as him and he. You don't have to present it all in one comment ( which I don't see how you thought that was what I wanted you to do in your first comment).
@finalfantasy8911 God speaks to me. That's one peace of evidence. How can I doubt that there is someone maneuvering my conscience. If all the universe just appeared, then how to we have consciences? Animals don't, but shouldn't they if they just came about like us. How do we know what's right from wrong? How r we alive? Without the Bible, mind u, I can't exactly prove God's existence, because the Bible is God's Word, and without it I can't state anything about him and his personality or power.
@TheForeignGamer Uh, yeah... God never talked to Muhammad. The Quran is copied off the Bible, and it's false. And don't reply saying, "Oh, so just because the Bible's older..." cuz I can prove it. Read Revelation 22:18-19. I hope I can help u further if u like.
@TheForeignGamer For the Muslims, yes it is. But for non-Muslims, it is just a book, the same way the Bible means nothing to certain sects of Hinduism. And Allah=God is a grand oversimplification of it. Yes, a literal translation could come to that, but not really. Also, Science does not keep the universe going. Nature, or God, or the divine force, depending on if and what religion is true, does. Science is just the human attempt to understand the methods which maintain the Universe.
@Huttate1 Amos 9:6 "[God] brings the waters of the sea and pours them out upon the surface of the earth"
Judges 5:4 "...the clouds drop water."
Psalm 148:4 "...you waters above the heavens."
The Ancient Israelites knew that water came up into the atmosphere. They also knew that it fell to Earth. Is that the water-cycle, or is that the water cycle?
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siirappi12345 1 week ago in playlist YouTube Mix for A.D.A.M.
Nice recreation of one of the best mythical stories to ever been created ;)
tytheeman20 2 weeks ago
Fine video, about apple!!!!!!
msmegan57 2 weeks ago
when i think about it im like .. it's just an apple!
Rocky7Devil 3 weeks ago
Very well done video, this is our reality, we disobey God, we pay the price. Now, we only look for His Mercy.
xchris1800 3 weeks ago
Very nicely done ^_^
Kool92cv 3 weeks ago
Punishing one person for the actions of another is immoral. If we use the Adam and Eve story to explain evil, suffering and death then we are saying that god is immoral and not a forgiving god.
NotSuchAnEvilBunny 1 month ago
@NotSuchAnEvilBunny the story of Adam and Eve was invented to defend the hatred for women by many of the leading elite. Nothing more, nothing less..
tzalwelgaanzeker 4 weeks ago
Watch the Creation seminars br Dr. Kent Hovind
dustinator4u2000 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for A.D.A.M.
Interesting.. lol
abelherrera11 2 months ago
What the hell? xD
JadieWazEre 2 months ago
What's the song name? . .:)
2803MrGaGa 2 months ago in playlist Atheism Music's
dust is usually black, dark, grey etc. so adams rib was the genes to eve how utterly insanely stupid this story is anyway
EGMAG 2 months ago
حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل
alosofyh 2 months ago
ADAM AND EVE WAS WHITE?
EGMAG 2 months ago
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@EGMAG ""ADAM AND EVE WAS WHITE?""
Who cares?
j919or 2 months ago
Dai jobu! neh? Domo arigato gozaimashite. Watashi-wa anata-no aishite mas.
bheadh 2 months ago
An entertaining video, but very misleading. The video reinforces the myth of the Adam & Eve story as being a factual event. The story is a PARABLE, and it should be presented as such to show the underlining message it was designed to explain. Without the underlining message, it is just a story of male-female couple living in the forest who....
timelessformless 3 months ago
loooove the music
video sucks.
JolyneGaatLos 3 months ago
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why
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why u Christians Damned do that u Represent This Great personalities huh ? those are Prophets and messengers do you know what that mean they not normal people to Represent them in a fucking movie plez get what i said they are greats not normal people fuck u
omar300342 3 months ago
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Darwin's 'On the Origin of species' etc can be read free at Project Gutenberg org. For more on science & nature try books by top scientists Richard Dawkins, ' Unweaving the rainbow ' & ' The greatest show on earth ' & PZ Meyers , Victor Stenger, website Talkorigins, Try John C. Lennox V Peter Atikins debate on youtube. Also on Youtube BonoboBill, evidence of common ancestry: human chromosome 2. Also Ken Miller on Pariskillton. Also try reading about endogenous retrovirus & provirus.
zytigon 3 months ago
Your mind works just sex and lust' .What kind of people are you?!..
SuperGeniusLife 4 months ago
I didn't know the devil wears bermuda shorts.
FantasticBob7000 4 months ago
I though eve was a brunette o.o
twilightfan0fedward 4 months ago
Adam and Eve chose to reject God in favor of the creation for they believed that the creation was better than God. All people have tasted evil and can decide if they wanna stay in it. They also saw the damage that it did to God in Jesus and to the rest of creation. They can either harden their hearts or let God fix the problem and cause us to fall in love with in, w/o which eternity is misery. Perfect love for a perfect being forever = pure bliss. All else forever = pure misery
j919or 4 months ago
@j919or WHOOPEE <
God creates EVOLUTION; evolution creates man; Man destroys God!
EGMAG 2 months ago
@EGMAG egmag creates a fantasy world, evolves from slime, declares himself superior to slime, showers off the slime from under his arms, returns to his bed in the psyche ward, giggling
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or
Well speaking from slime to slime your one slimey bastard, you slimey slimeball.
EGMAG 2 months ago
@EGMAG Slime on!
j919or 2 months ago
1:17 Looks a bit like the demon Azazel
TheWolfsCall 4 months ago
1:13 Enter: Steve
NoMissBar19 5 months ago
There is an interesting debate between orthodox and sceptical Bible scholarship. For higher criticism of the Bible try top scholars Robert M Price, John W Loftus, Dan Barker, Valerie Tarico, Keith Parson, Hector Avalos, Ken Pulliam, Israel Finkelstein, Gary Greenberg, Earl Doherty, Richard Carrier, Ken Humphreys, C.Dennis Mckinsey, Bart Ehrman, Truth-saves, Talkorigins. Try reading a summary of the whole history of world religions & history of protestantism & comparative religion.
zytigon 5 months ago
0:58 first ever boner
damical93 5 months ago
O Fortuna...
Carl Orff's masterpiece called Carmina Burana.
A song of fortune and fate.
If only the masses would hear past the music as propaganda and actually LEARN the words.
... If only.
maxx1000 5 months ago
what;s with the music ?oh fortuna ??? huh
djay00009 5 months ago
Great, Chrissy! Come and see my Adam and Eve getting down (or not) in "I Don't Want A Man"!
ClarissaSport 5 months ago
adam and ever were black
orensampemati 5 months ago
@orensampemati No they weren't
RainbowCandiez 4 months ago
Didnt know Jewish were so white 3000 years ago
NitooJackerarg 6 months ago
good one..but mostly eve wouldnt have been blonde
bloodhoundHermetic 6 months ago
and?
desertrose5555 6 months ago
What the fuck is this shit?
Alucardiff 6 months ago
MORIR ES VIVIR MORIR ES VIVIR
STarCRAFT4BRITS 6 months ago
subhan Allah, this has got nothing to do with Adam and Eve. Not the way they look.
Allah is the Almighty and the Lord of the WORLD. we believe until the of judgements.
alex119251 6 months ago
@alex119251 n you will die with seeing a day of judgement , Stupid people
djay00009 5 months ago
EHH???
mrtundra45 6 months ago
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@aoiahiru
"Logic does not exist apart from a mind that is able to form True or Accurate connections. The way that people are able to infer a True relation based on irrational nature is a mystery."
Are you saying that logic ceases to exist without a mind to comprehend it, and that one's relationship with a god is a mystery to science? If so, then demonstate how what you have said is even remotely true.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
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Luk_3:38, Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. Rom_5:14, Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
shoeking37 7 months ago
nice work!
hec2106 7 months ago
God created Satan and allowed him to roam His garden (Gen 3:1) He created Satan with one purpose in mind - that Satan should decieve, He places Satan with imperfect, gullable humans (Gen3:6) He planted the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and made it look beautiful & irrisistable - not ugly and forbodeing .. This was not a 'fall' .. this was a set up.. Men have no 'free will' - a free will is something that is free from all causality - God intended for men to disobey - its how He rolls..
etherform66 7 months ago
@etherform66
God is the ultimate devil; infinately more evil than Satan.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
No-one can tell where the Garden of Eden was; the world before the flood was completely destroyed. On the matter of their skin color: the creation science belief is that they were both brown, having the genetic ABILITY to eventually produce offspring of such variance as we have today...
DoKtaTre 7 months ago
maksudna
Nurmanchester 7 months ago
293 people like darvin
MrDangerEXtreme 7 months ago
what is this??
you cannot make adam and eve like this stupid movie!!!!!!
please respect islam....
nursefofo 7 months ago
update update people those questions are already too old..since every thing started form big bang. y? they have proved because we had a hubble space telescope we can scan the heaven and the space and galaxy itself expanding and just like a tape we can back every off to a single point about 13.7 billion years. but some religion said everything start only 6000 years and have no prove why is that?lol
kungfu49 7 months ago
lol all your questions already had answers just cause u never read science and physic do some research maybe string theory can help you we are made out of stars dust and scientists successed creating form simple chemical to complex chemical of an early earth and how they joined together to created life. they can even create a new species i think later we will become god of some kind of species lolllll...
vck488 7 months ago
EVERYONE SHUT UP! ADAM AND EVE IS A CHRISTIAN STORY, AND THERE WAS NO FRICKING BIG BANG WHAT SO EVER! IF THE BIG BANG WAS REAL, WHEN DID IT START, HOW DID IT BEGIN HUH HUH?!?!?!!? HOW DID THAT PLASMATIC (WHATEVER) BALL COME UP?!
Ommendance94 7 months ago
finalfantasy, shut yo' f#cking mouth and go back to worshipping albert Eintein. Jakob is doing this world a bit of good telling about God. It's about time to, with all the people here with no religion and have no purpose of being here. you should listen with great curiosity, not argue like you are an ignorant teenager on their period.
GwnderConfusedBoy69 7 months ago
@GwnderConfusedBoy69
What did you expect to accomplish with your comment? You really think I am going to just stop asking relevant questions just because it is your wish for me to? Fool. I worship no one, nor am I sheep to any foolish doctrine of religious dogma; which I suspect that you may be. Ignorant as sheep; thus you cannot live without a shepherd telling you what to do. I am glad and I take pride that I am no longer such a pathetic follower. You are the one ignorant of the real world.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
if u don't fucking believe in science and physic don't fucking use any stuffs of house house tv fan microwave lazer light even when u sick don't drink any medicien god can cure u....let c u die like a duck and though u back to stone man..
kungfu49 7 months ago
Pics or it didn't happen
9N8X 8 months ago
انا اطلب من اداره اليوتيوب حذف هذا المقطع لما فيه من المعلومات الخاطئه
alwaled2000 8 months ago
roy west
2008Sameoldfitup 8 months ago
quedo brutal y asi fue como paso!
teque77 8 months ago
quedo brutal el video y asi fue como paso!
teque77 8 months ago
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"If you want to know the real purpose of life watch some of the videos on my channel."
Rav814 8 months ago
There is proof of God's existence. You will find it if you're interested in but. But if you have a strong belief in Atheism, you're just wasting your time and being ignorant. =]
DarksideWarriorK 8 months ago
@DarksideWarriorK Please, never stop preaching your truth. It's people like you that get me through life. Seriously, if it weren't for religious idiots who would I laugh at?
maplesyrupgl 8 months ago
@DarksideWarriorK Take away your bronze age book full of stone age myths and prove your god exists without it. If he did then you would not have to rely on the book at all. Sadly for you, everything about your faith is wrapped up in that contradictory, error ridden piece of ancient fiction.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 jews, niggers, etc. all heretics, like you. Someone like Hitler should rise from the ashes and kill every other race and heretic.
Ugurcan2452 8 months ago
@Ugurcan2452 That says all anyone needs to know about the limitations of your mind.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1
God exist because he does. Right now he's hiding behind your door eating taco bell because they are outside the bun. Sorry you have no faith in what created you. Hey it's better than saying we evolved from monkeys. I can wait till Planet of the apes come. Ima be like eeeeeeeee! Waka wkaka banana! Hehehe. The proof that God exist is the prophecy's in the bible. All the prophecies came true. That Babylon wil be destroyed and never rebuilt, or that people will kill the truth (war).
DarksideWarriorK 8 months ago
@DarksideWarriorK Only a creatard would say we evolved from monkeys. Evolution does not say that. Typical that you are ignorant of the facts.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@DarksideWarriorK I agree with you, dude. I took a theology class and one of the things we were talking about was the millions of true prophecies that athiests and agnostics can't explain. Isaiah practically outlined Cyrus the Great's entire life and even told the Jews his name, like, 1 or 2 centuries before Cyrus was born. How's that for proof that God's real.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes You are denying reality to try to prove the unprovable. There is not a proven single prophecy on the bible. You take it as read that the bible was written chronologically but it is widely accepted that this is not so. There are many good reference books detailing the philology and linguistics of the bible. You should look them up and educate yourself.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@JakobDailes I know the Bible was not written chronologically (wait, so Moses wasn't alive at Creation?). That doesn't mean the prophecies aren't true. Like I said above: "Cyrus". That entire thing is true. And since Isaiah wrote his own book... do YOU think he lived to be 100/200? Isaiah's prophecies about the Diaspora came true. All the prophecies about Jesus came true (I dare you to tell me one prophecy Jesus didn't fulfill according to the Bible).
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@Huttate1
Duhhhhhhhh. Crazy head. Back then people didn't have science technology, but they somehow knew the earth was round and that there was black wholes and planets and some other weird shit. Oh wait, know what you're gonna say! It was Michael Jackson's doing. He told the people 7 thousand years ago that Mars and Venus was next to earth. Duhh. Silly me. I now know the truth. Michael Jackson's an alien! No wonder he changed colors. Hahaha! I love humanity. >.>
DarksideWarriorK 8 months ago
@DarksideWarriorK Of course they did. And they knew the sun went round the earth and that the moon was a light and that you could put striped sticks in the ground to ensure you bred striped goats and rubbing a dead crow on your earlobe would cure leprosy and you could live in a fish for three days. We could have learnt so much from them.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 Why isn't the Bible useful? If you take away the Bible, you might as well also take away all the history books, because that's what the Bible is: God's history book. God can be explained without it, too. Evolution doesn't add up (except for micro-, at least there's proof that it exists) and neither do any religions other than Judeo-Christian. Also, if there's no God, than why do you athiests always persecute us (because you don't want to admit we're right?)
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes So it will be easy for you to define and prove God's existence without reference to the book. Go ahead!
I challenge prosthelytizers because I think they are deluded and dangerous.
I look forward to your non-ontological proof.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 How can you prove millions of occurances in which people died, were at death, or were fatally ill, and were suddenly healing and progressing? Even some athiests have attributed the word "miracle" to them, and who's the Miracle-Maker? And how is it that almost all of these occurances happened as a result of prayer? Who must be real once you disprove all views of beginning (Evolution, Big-Bang,etc.) other than Creation? God. That's what I can think of off top of my head.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes Millions? Really? I don't think so. ANd what about all the millions (yes really) of cases when an innocent baby dies despite prayer? Surely that would disprove your god just as easily as your argument proves it. If I could show you that prayer failed to work 999 times out of a hundred would that prove that god did not exists and there were a few times when a patient recovered for as yet unknow reasons?
Provide me with a peer reviewed medical rep[ort of just one miracle.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 If an innocent baby dies it goes to Heaven. Who says the death of innocent child/grown Christian is punishment for noninnocence? I can't give you the medical report (I'd kinda have to break into his house/into the hospitals he went to) but I'm friends with a guy whose eye got shot in a freak accident. His eye actually deflated and shrivelled up. Several operations later and doctors thought he'd be blind in that eye. Me and my other friends prayed. Within a week he was fully healed.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@Huttate1 Innocent babies/little children go to Heaven. So do Christians. So could you please make a clearer point (I don't think anyone's scared of eternal happiness in Paradise)
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes But I thought there were no innocents according to the bible. Which is it? WHich pieces of the bible do you select to inform yopur opinion?
Oh, and you forgot the evidence for those miracles - odd that christians have such poor memories.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 I meant "innocent" as in Christian or forgiven of sin. Also, it's common knowledge for a Christian that any young child or infant, being unable to have accepted or denied Christ yet, will be accepted into Heaven. I select my knowledge from all the Bible. Actually read it like it's serious material (NOT TO BE RIDICULED) and you'll see that what I'm saying is there. I'm not asking you to convert, tho it would be good if u pleas would, but just read it seriously.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@Huttate1 Also, what evidence? I told you before... Cade Meeks, he's a real person. He's who I was talking about. Come to PCB, and you can meet him. He's not something I just made up. HE'S REAL AND SO IS HIS EYE. I swear on the Bible, may God strike me down if I'm lying.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes A name is not evidence. Medical testimony is evidence. You have none. No-one does.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 No one. Really? Search it up. Give me proof. TRUTHFULLY tell me there's no medical evidence of any miracle ever happening in a hospital. I've read. I've met people. If you tell me there's no miracle-healing that has ever happened in a hospital, I know your lying. Don't just tell me. Show me. And even if there are no healing-miracles today, there are in the Bible. God still exists, whether or not he heals someone. "The LORD giveth and the LORD taketh away."
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes So you start by telling me there are definately miracles - though you offer no proof of course. You then say "even if there are no healing-miracles today" - Sorry? I thought you said here definately were.
Is it that there definately are but there might not be?
Your gid exists in a book and in your head but nowhere else.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 I was speaking hypothetically. However, if you want to sit the straw man back up in his chair to hurl more fallacies at him, I guess we all have our ways of getting rid of anger. Also, I have no idea what a gid is, but Yahweh bless u, my friend. He is real, and he loves u and died 4 u. Please don't let that have been a wasted death.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes Then you have blind ignorant faith based on a stone age myth and nothing else. If the delusion comforts you, fine. Just resist the urge to prosthelytize unless you have something more than the nothing you have presented to back it up.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 How is that blind or ignorant? It isn't a Stone Age myth, it's the truth.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@Huttate1 Ask me as many questions about Christ as u like. I'll answer them all. I just hope u'll convert so u can live forever in paradise.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes As there is not a single piece of evidence that he ever existed and plenty of evidence that the gospels were manufactured long after he died to fuel the apocolyptic cult, I have no interest in you reciting the bible that I know so well.
The bible is a rehashed stone-age myth, written down around 500BC. The smallest amount of research into comparitive mythology would enlighten you in this area.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 Have u seen my profile. I'm a mythologist and folklorist. I know as much as and more than any normal guy on the street about this stuff. I kno enough that it's obvious to me that Christianity is true. However, if I cannot help you using the Bible, I can't really help u at all.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes If you really know what you state then you will know that the bible is rehashed myths and nothing more. You will know that there is no evidence for Abraham, Moses, Solomon, David or Jesus as historical figures. You will know that the apostles never wrote the gospels. You will know that there is no evidence for your god outside the bible and that it was written by men for their own purposes.
In short you will know it is a myth just like all the rest and should be treated as such.
Huttate1 8 months ago
@Huttate1 Myth? Has it ever occured to u that all those myths must be based on something or they wouldn't be so similar? Answer: They were all based on Biblical history, or got their ideas from Biblical history. If Abraham's fake, then why'd the Hebrews make him up? If Moses is fake, how come there are chariot parts and skeletons at the bottom of the Reed Sea? David, Solomon, and Jesus are in history-books, so if they're fake, how come ATHIEST HISTORIANS are telling kids they're real?
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes Sir, u r simply not making sense. If historians and archaeologists say all these people are real, and u claim to be gathering ur info from them, why r u contradicting them? Jesus is real, he is the Saviour, and he died for us all! God bless u, ur in my prayers.
JakobDailes 8 months ago
@JakobDailes There is no evidence whatsoever that Jesus Christ existed. You are deluding yourself in the belief that some mythical figure back engineered to fit an iron age myth can somehow affect your life.
Get a grip. Take charge of your life and stop using this superstitious crutch as an excuse for your inadequacies.
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 You know what, dude. So far, you've given me no acceptable prrof that these guys are all fakers or lies. Why should I believe you if all you're going to tell me is that I'm wrong, without any proof or any gift of what's right?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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@JakobDailes The burden of proof is on you. I can tell you that there is no evidence for their existence - as I have. You would need to provide that evidence, otherwise concede you are simply following blindly in a superstitious myth.
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 Dude, they're in history books both by Athiests and believers. R u saying they're lying.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes I am saying that their is no unequivocal evidence that they existed. You need to define what you consider a history book but I guarantee you will not find a peer review jury tested piece by any historian confirming the historicity of any of them.
Or your chariots!
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 Here's a book right on my desk: The Usborne Encyclopedia of World History by Jane Bingham, Fiona Chandler, and Sam Taplin. The book supports evolution and atheism, yet it talks about Moses, David, Solomon, the prophets, Jesus, etc. all as historical people.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes That's just one of many school textbooks (i forget the names so don't hound me) I've read before that are by atheists yet state the same thing. Tho they don't believe in God or Jesus, these people all know that the earlier-mentioned people r real.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
Why would myths that predate the bible be based on the bible. There is nothing in any creation myth that suggests it is true. The flood myths are widespread is no surprise as we know there were several major flooding events / sea level rises.
Why'd the Danes make up Thor? The Sumerians, Dagon? Show me a history book that names these people as real.
Ron Wyatt's chariots in the Red Sea, just like his Noah's Ark, are frauds accepted only by the gullible. Please do some research.
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 Jesus is the ultimate hero. All myths relate to the Bible due to their being foreshadowings. God allowed certain people to know certain parts of his glory and his work, but only enough that one religion would be right, while all others would be myth. How else can all these mythologies have so much in common, even if they are countries apart?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes Jesus Christ was a rehash of the Dagon water myth of Sumeria. He never existed.
Nothing in your bible is supernatural. It was written by men who thought that striped sticks made striped goats; insects had four legs and you could cure leprosy by rubbing crows entrails on your ear lobes.
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 What is the Dagon water myth? How does it relate to Christ?
Oh, thank you ever so much for informing me of this. Of course people who didn't know anything about biology knew nothing about religion. It just fits so perfectly (y'kno, since religion and biology r the same thing and have so much to do with each other). }:(
For ur info, dude, the Israelites knew so many things about the earth no one else in their time did: things scientists today agree on fully.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes Call yourself a mythologist? So you were lying! What a surprise that is. If you do not know who Dagon was you have no right to claim you can argue a point. If you do not know why the bishops mitre (complete with tails) resemples a fish head and body you have no right to call yourself a mythologist.
Next you will tell me you have not heard of Innana, Ishtar or the Rig Veda.
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 I kno who Dagon and Ishtar r, dude. I just wanted to know what myth u were referring to (to be more specific, I'm a WESTERN mythologist. happy?). Also state the relation to Jesus please.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes So you know the story of Dagon and you know the story of Jesus and you see no connection?
Even though Jesus is the fisherman, the fish god. Dagon was the fish god.
Even though Jesus great miracle of the loaves and fishes. Dagon was the fish god but he was also the grain god.
Even though Dagon appears throughout the bible - which is many myths collated.
Even though the pope wears the fish head.
Anything else?
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 The fish-head is supposed to be the ikhthys, the fish representing Christ (who was a CARPENTER not a fisher). Wow. One similarity left. Only one. THAT'S SO MANY! :D Also, Dagon appears in the Bible only because he was a popular Philistine god. And the Philistines and Hebrews were at war for a few years. Ooh.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes Unbelievable!
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 ? What do u mean?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@Huttate1 Oh yeah, and where is it in the Bible that stuff is? }:)
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes I don'tunderstand the question.
But I forgot to respond to your assertion and will now. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the Israelites knew anything that was not common knowledge at the time. Name one thing if you disagree.
Oh, if you were asking me where stripey sticks, crows etc are in the bible I can only assume that means you have not even read it.
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 I have read the Bible many times, and I don't remember where that stuff is (so obviously ur either lying or need to tell me where so I'll believe u). Oh, and that one thing (tho I could name others this is first to come to mind): the Water Cycle. They knew the entire water cycle. It's in there, so "I can only assume that means you have not even read it." }:)
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes You didn't get very far! Genesis 30:37 - stripey goats. Leviticus 14:1 and on - bizarre treatments for leprosy.
And sorry but Ecclesiastes does not describe the entire water cycle. I just know you read that off a creationist website because if you had read the passage you would not embarass yourself by repeating the claim.
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 Jacob exposed the juices of the sticks and set them in the flocks' water. They sprinkled the blood of the crows ceremoniously and used herbs for the cure (did you only see "bird" and "kill"?). Also, thank you for informing me that the entire Bible is Ecclesiastes. }:(
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes Sorry? This is supposedly the word of god!
So that is how you would get striped goats?
And that is how you would cure leprosy?
I apologise if I missed the water cycle elsewhere - please point it out to me.
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 herbs could affect the traits of hair color. The blood was ceremonial: a sacrifice. And in case u don't know: Herbs are used in Medicine. Would you like some more 3rd grade educational lessons?
In Genesis, it says that when forming the atmosphere God put water there (water-vapor, clouds, rain). There was somewhere in Isaiah where I saw it the other day, but i can't remember where. I'll find it later.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes Bollocks and you know it.
I said the water cycle, not god put the water there.
Please. Read what you are writing. You sound desperate and rediculous. Your profile says that you are mature - time to put away the children's stroies dontcha think?
Huttate1 7 months ago
@Huttate1 God is real. I know he is. He does everything in nature, without him nothing would happen and everything, even time and space, would cease to exist. Look around in Isaiah, there's more stuff about the water-cycle in there. If the Bible is just a bunch of children's stories, how come, according to ur favorites, u think it's not for kids? And for ur info, dude, the Bible is all 100% true. If u don't believe the Bible, WHAT do u believe?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
Where's that evidence? Don't say "its all around you" because there is no connection between the universe and god. And what about those millions of people that believe in other gods than your insanly jealous one?
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 If ur going to pick a religion, you should pick Christianity. I've done research and the way I see it, Christianity is the only true religion, because all the others are nonsense that is either based on it or is outdated polytheism. How is there no connection b/n the universe and God. He created it, didn't he? Yes he did. What do you need evidence for? (I can't give u all the evidence proving God in the world in 1 comment)
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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XD
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 ??? Would u like to share what's so funny with the rest of the class?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
HAHAHA, well I'll give you one thing I find hilarious. You said "How is there no connection b/n the universe and God. He created it didn't he? Yes, he did. What do you need evidence for?" AAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Now I KNOW that the universe has an explanation for its existance; it didn't just come out of no where. But as for exactly what explanation that is, I go to science.
*to be continued*
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 How do u know science is right?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
Science is what keeps the universe going, the world spinning, and your body intact. Without the logic of science (laws of gravity, mathamaticsm, etc.) the universe would fall apart in a matter of seconds or less. Plus, science is peer reviewed, observed, and proven by mankind. Religion is just based on faith, the hope/desire for something to be true.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 You realize science, point blank, means "knowing", right. Oh, so it isn't God or Nature or anything Science speaks of! It's us humans knowing things! Thank u so much for informing me that we're the center of the universe. Also, thank u for informing me that without the reasoning of knowledge the universe would fall apart. U should really invent the human-ocentric view!
Who's dumb now? Also, Religion is based on faith, AND evidence counting out the stupid things others believe.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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NO! NO! NO! AHA HA HA! You are still the dumb one, XD. Let me try to liberate you from your confusion. Just because humans understand the science of our universe doesn't mean we are gods or the center of the universe (because we certainly ARE NOT). It only means that we are knowledgable of the world around us so that we can survive as a species. Scientific laws can be proven to exist by mankind with observable and comprehensible evidence. Unlike god, thus so many religions exist.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 God gives us our knowledge. If science is proven by observable evidence, then tell me, how do u observe that at the beginning of the universe a cell apparently just appeard and set in motion all of evolution? How did that happen? Obviously u didn't read my comment: What u've been saying is that without science (the human knowledge and understanding of the universe) there would be no universe. So why didn't the earth just disappear in the Stone Age, when science didn't exist?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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NO, stop getting confused! Science exists independant from human beings. Humans do not determine what science is, we only observe it in order to understand it. Science had existed from the beginning of the universe and perhaps before it. As for evolution (which by the way has nothing to with the origins of the universe) began from simple molecules that orignated from the beginning, then over large amounts of time became more complex organisms.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 Ur the one confused, dude. This is the definition of science:
science - n., derived from Latin "scio" ("to know"), knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.
Thanx for telling me what I already knew about evolution. Now could u answer my question: How do u observe that a cell (or molecule) apparently just appeard and set in motion all evolution? How did that happen?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
I assume that you want all the details on the origin of evolution; so the best thing I can do for your eager willingness to learn about abiogenesis is to lead you to an abundance of information on the subject. Go to google and type in "talk origins evolution", then click on the link that says "the talk origins archive: Evolution FAQs" There you should be able to get all your questions answered than on a meager youtube response. Your welcome.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 Yes. I want all the details on evolution. That's exactly what I said. Not like I asked where it started or anything. Sir (or Miss, I suppose, I don't know who u r), I understand evolution, and I believe it, except (I'm gonna start speaking in CAPS in hope that u understand) IF EVERYTHING STARTED WITH EVOLUTION, WHERE DID EVOLUTION START? WHERE DID THOSE FIRST MOLECULES COME FROM?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
" IF EVERYTHING STARTED WITH EVOLUTION, WHERE DID EVOLUTION START?"
You continue to show me your ignorance. ONLY LIFE ON EARTH began with evolution. Evolution is only relevant for life on earth, not the stars, galaxies, black holes, or anything else out in space
(except possibly life on other planets). Evolution is not the beginning of the universe.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 I want to kno where evolution started. I meant every living thing.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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@JakobDailes
Did you notice the link I gave you a few comments ago? Talk origins.com. Go there for all the details.
Evolution began with a complicated process; the rise of bacteria brought the starting point of evolution.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
In all of your research, you seem to be ignorant on important scientific facts. Since you are asking me about them I would recommend that you read books on evolution, chemistry, etc. And "how do u observe that at the beginning of the universe a cell...", scientists are able to do that because they have a certain level of understanding of how the universe (biology, paleontology, etc.) operates and through rational thinking and evidence conclude a logical origin of life.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 So what I understand here is that u don't want to tell me the scientific "facts" b/c I could prove u wrong. If u disagree, then simply ANSWER MY QUESTION.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
Do not be over confident in your abilities jakob. You are not the superior in this circumstance. Its not that I don't want to tell you the facts out of concern of being proved wrong (that might be you); I am trying to figure out how I can bring some understanding to your mind polluted by your religous arrogance.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 Then y don't u answer my question? It's a simple question: where did those first molecules that u claim sparked evolution come from?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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They originated from the atoms that formed after a period of time prior to the big bang.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 How'd the atoms originate?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
Jakob, stop wasting my time. If you had wanted to know where everything came from, just ask the question instead of back tracking bit by bit; we will get things done faster that way. But in the beginning, the universe was a singularity; yes the entire universe was compressed into a very small single point. Then eventually, the singularity exploded into what we call the big bang. Where the singularity came from is unknown because man lacks the appropiate tools to find out.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 How do u know it exploded? All the Big Bang states is that the universe is drifting apart (i even believe it was u who told me that, i'm not sure tho). How do we kno it was even once at a small point? If "O" is the universe today, and "." is the universe as u say it began, how do we kno it didn't begin as "o".
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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Some suspect that this universe is eternal, that it is all there is. While some, suspect that there is a more bizarre realm of science beyond this universe; a realm where possibly billions of other universes with different physical laws exist. But those are speculations, as of now man does not know where that singularity actually or most likely came from.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
Have you given up, or not? Busy looking over the information on talk origins?
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 U haven't answered some of my questions yet. Till then, y should I say anything?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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How have I not answered your questions? Are you just ignoring my comments as if they do not exist? What is wrong with your mental processes? I HAVE answered your questions in abundance!
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
If a child has lived on a tiny isolated island all his life and decides to sit on the beach and look up at the night sky. How is that child supposed to KNOW that the creator of the universe is your specific god of christianity. I will tell you how he would "know"; by some christian coming up to him from somewhere and bribing him with the good stuff that christianity has to offer, thus to which the child might like the bribe enough to catch the "blind faith".
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 How is it a "blind faith"?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
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@JakobDailes
"How is it a "blind faith"?"
I think you should think about it a bit more.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
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In other words, just observing the immense diversity and complexity of the universe is not enough to come to the conclusion that a god did it; UNLESS there is much resonable evidence to support the idea (and no the bible doesn't count). You must go and find out the truth by utilizing science with a rational mind. Yes it is tempting to believe such a heartwarming idea, that there is a male god beyond the universe that loves and cares about you, but that doesn't make it true.
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@JakobDailes
Based on your previous comments on this video, you seem to be quite bold in your religious faith. Why don't you present to me the evidence you have found through your research so that I may be enlighted by your god, who seems to be a man since people often refer to god as him and he. You don't have to present it all in one comment ( which I don't see how you thought that was what I wanted you to do in your first comment).
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 God speaks to me. That's one peace of evidence. How can I doubt that there is someone maneuvering my conscience. If all the universe just appeared, then how to we have consciences? Animals don't, but shouldn't they if they just came about like us. How do we know what's right from wrong? How r we alive? Without the Bible, mind u, I can't exactly prove God's existence, because the Bible is God's Word, and without it I can't state anything about him and his personality or power.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@JakobDailes Mind other religions. Allah = God. The Qur'an is also God's word through Muhammad.
TheForeignGamer 7 months ago
@TheForeignGamer Uh, yeah... God never talked to Muhammad. The Quran is copied off the Bible, and it's false. And don't reply saying, "Oh, so just because the Bible's older..." cuz I can prove it. Read Revelation 22:18-19. I hope I can help u further if u like.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@TheForeignGamer For the Muslims, yes it is. But for non-Muslims, it is just a book, the same way the Bible means nothing to certain sects of Hinduism. And Allah=God is a grand oversimplification of it. Yes, a literal translation could come to that, but not really. Also, Science does not keep the universe going. Nature, or God, or the divine force, depending on if and what religion is true, does. Science is just the human attempt to understand the methods which maintain the Universe.
griffithomi 7 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 Ask me any question about God and I pray that I can answer u to the fullness of my knowledge.
JakobDailes 7 months ago
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@JakobDailes
When you refer to god in the third person pronoun do you refer to god as "he", "she", or "it"; and why?
finalfantasy8911 7 months ago
@Huttate1 Amos 9:6 "[God] brings the waters of the sea and pours them out upon the surface of the earth"
Judges 5:4 "...the clouds drop water."
Psalm 148:4 "...you waters above the heavens."
The Ancient Israelites knew that water came up into the atmosphere. They also knew that it fell to Earth. Is that the water-cycle, or is that the water cycle?
JakobDailes 7 months ago
@Huttate1 You seriously should convert, dude. You could be on the debate team hope there is in Heaven. :D
JakobDailes 8 months ago
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@Huttate1 You seriously should convert, dude. You could be on the debate team i hope there is in Heaven. :D
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