What do you do if your wall doesn't have enough length for even 16" spacing? let's say it is an odd size like 107" long. How do you handle the odd space at the end?
You sure explain things very well but I could tell many stories of hanging shelves and using studfinders and most of them did not do it right. I used several and finished drilling little holes sometime too many and became most annoyed at it. I hope I can learn but this is Australia so perhaps I need to learn a bit more!
Don't know if you can answer this, but we have a house that was built in 1900. Did they use the same 16" stud layout, or did they usually go by a different standard back then? Reason I ask, is I can't use a stud detector (lathe strips under the plaster) and I want to hang crown molding in our dining room, but I don't want to be poking and prodding all over the place, trying to find the studs.
@brian1969a Hey Brian. As a rule yes they did. however due to the size of heat runs,plumbing locations and so on, they would sometimes get creative with their lay-outs. If you use a drill bit to drill plaster(behind where crown will cover) it will be less likely you will blow-out plaster that may happen if you use a trim nail, Hope this helps! +++Bob
@brian1969a one thing you can do is if you have any pictures hanging on the wall and you know that the nail that they are on are in a stud than you can measure over and figure out where all the other studs are.
@Carmensquilts If you are building interior walls simply lay-out all your plates at the same time and only build and raise 12 or 16 foot sections at a time connect after raising.+++Bob Have enough help available if raising larger sections,
I'm a HS student taking carpentry and entering into the first part of the skillsUSA competition. We have to frame a wall as part of that. Anyways, I have a question. When you nail the studs in. Do you nail through the top of the top plate into the stud or an angle drive from the stud into the plate? Same for bottom?
@BEASTsatisfaction You would nail it with two nails per stud top and bottom, side nailing only where access to the bottom of the stud is not possible. You would than add a top plate (2X4) to cover the first top plate, taking care to overlap anywhere that two studs meet so as not to have any butted studs lining up. As for your corners, see if your local codes allow the use of short sections of 2x4's to make up space so as to minimize using full length studs .
Hey there, I'm a young carpenter that's starting the skillsUSA competition through my high schools OSTC. And part of that is framing a wall. So I have a few questions. I understand the measuring thing from the end. 3/4" off 16"OC. But when you nail the studs in place. Wouldnt the distance between studs be 14 1/2"? And when you nail the studs in, do you drive them in on an angle from the stud to the plate. Or through the top (or bottom) of the plate into the stud. Thanks!
@BEASTsatisfaction With the exception of the first stud that will be 13 3/4, the remaining field wall studs will be 14 1/2 between. If you are on new construction the plates are nailed thru plate into stud prior to "raising" the wall,if there is an appropriate angle to nail the nails in , I am not aware of it but after you hit your books please let me know if there is. Good Luck with the competition! +++Bob
@Kanoee64 Lol, I explained this a few time in this thread and the question keeps coming. I try not to get frustrated because I know what its like when you are new to something. However I did find humor in reading yours! Thanks for the chuckle! +++Bob
I have the same concerns. By doing it as shown in the video, the distance between the center of the first and second studs will Not be 16". Is that on purpose?
16" is one of the three common lay measurements. There also is 19.2" OC and 24" OC. The lay out can be different depending on load an the timber dimensions as well.
HELLO BOB, COULD U TELL ME THE PROPER WAY TO CROWN STUDS IN A 2X4 WALL? DO YOU PUT THE CROWN TOWARD THE "INSIDE" OF THE WALL, OR THE OUTSIDE? I AM FIXING TO START FRAMMIMNG WALLS, LIKE TOMORROW, I WILL START. THANKS FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE!
@tomcat624u My "Tips for building straight wall video" Explains exactly this question! I will leave a message on your channel where I can put the link to this video+++Bob
@MFRoosy16 The standard is 16 inch centers for most typical projects, there are occasions that 12 inch centers may be required due to load restrictions ect. Hope this cleared things up a bit+++Bob
@HomeRemodelWorkshop : You put your 2x4's within the fram 16 inches apart, he is asking if it is normally 12 inches. Im not sure i can answer his quesiton, because this is day 2 of my construction of a 17x15 shed, ive never really built anything big. Wish me luck!
I have to say this video has been the most useful video to me up to this point. In the future I plan of doing some small scale construction for my own uses and have only a little construction experience. This video has cleared up a lot of questions I had. Thank you.
Well i`m a Welder/Fabricator and though we do simular things when setting out Balustrading & railings & the like, it was good to see this. I`m about to build a Studded type walled timber garage using 4"X2".. The size is 8M X 5Metre`s & height is 2.5M to the eaves & 4 Metre`s to the peak of the roof. The roof is going to be 18mm Ply with flatroof fibreglass type finish. T&G will clad external walls and ply sheets on the inside. Insulation will be installed but not sure what yet. Thanks for post.
This was a great video - very informative. I "almost" feel like I can fix my floor and wall now... almost. If there are any contractors in Central Pennsylvania looking for work, please contact me!
thanks for the video, I'm building a wall next week actually and the tips were great actually I watched it twice because the captions are hilarious by them selves (youtube doesn't get all the words right drywall = ronald) lol :)
Wow! that helps me soooooo much! I finally get it! Do you have a video about a 2x4 built in wall bookshelves with do it yourself cabinet doors....do You?? I have 5 children and I want to contain and control things in a locked and neat looking way.
Just to clarify, lets say your building a 10x10 room out of 2x4, your going to have 2 outside walls and 2 inside walls. This means on each of your outside walls you need to compensate for the inside walls which are 3 1/2" thick. So on the outside wall at the first stud to the second stud you'll need to account 3 1/2" and put another stud on the opposite side of that measurement, same for the opposite end of the outside wall.
I may be wrong but if you 15 1/4" from the end stud your not going to be 16" on center with that one end stud, you will be with all the others, but that one will not be 16" on center?
@Etsuki519 The first stud in the wall is not going to have material centered on it, it will begin at the lead edge of it , that is why there is a smaller space to begin with. I hope this is as clear to you as it seems to me +++Bob
@Etsuki519 I agree. If you measure the center of the end stud to the center of the first stud, it's not 16 on center with this method. It's 15 1/4 on center from end stud to first stud.
@Etsuki519 you're right..that first gap will be 15 1/4 and every other one will be 14 1/2....its much better just to measure 16 inches from the end of the first stud to the end of the following stud...will produce an even space between studs
i agree with you that what your saying makes every stud 16 on center from the first one to the next , but your 16 3/4" to center from the end of the plate. ..right?
i agree with you that what your saying makes every stud 16 on center from the first one to the next , but your 16 3/4" to center from the end of the plate. ..right?
Hi Bob, me and my husband and a few other people are going to add a room onto our house. We are planning on having another baby. Therefore we need a nursery. It's just basically about a 17' x 10"-13" wide. The problem is where we are adding it. We are going to add it onto our Twins room flush with the side of the house and flush with the front. Well our driveway which is not smooth goes up to the twins room. What should we do about this?
You don't want to see the studs in my house! It was built in the 1920's and they're ALL over the place. Trying to find lines to screw boards into, or cut PU insulation, took FOREVER! For a messy result. If I ever build my own house, every room is going to divide into a whole sheet of board. :D
@lexichronicle2 : yes! My house was built in 1924, and I feel your pain. But to add plaster walls into the equation is ever more challenging. Feathering in drywall with plaster wall is fun. Not.
Keep up the good work. I like the simple instructions. A lot of people don't know about the red numbers on the tape! Good point... If you want more construction ideas check out my videos. Thanks for the tutorial!!!
Hi again Bob. The existing stud structure utilized 2x4s straight from the saw mill and they aren't very consistent in their tolerance. I'm afraid there would be no way of ensuring the drywall doesn't beck
@br3ktw Lay-out entire wall on plates, then add 2 remove one continuing around structure. This is going with the assumption there is no exterior sheeting on these walls and electric and plumbing are to be removed and reworked later.+++Bob
Hi Bob. I wonder if you have any videos that can walk me through the best method for converting 24 inch on center walls to 16 inch on center walls? The room is 15x30 and is attached to a single level shop. The frame is exposed as I have already removed the walls themselves. Thanks for any advice you can give.
@mattix771 I get it! Bad habit,when you film videos in pieces then edit them together this happens sometimes. Usually I can edit more of it out than I did this time. I hope you found some of the information useful+++Bob
I just purchased my first home. My garage is 24x14 and I want to split it in two... Have a work area and a jam room. Regarding the 2x4 framing, do I need to build the wall first and then put it up? Ill be doing this alone and that seems to be a little harder for a one man job... Can't I just start by nailing down the bottom and top of the fram into the wall then add the 2x4's making sure they are leveled?
@4x12 I actually have a few videos that might help you out. Basement framing lay-out 1 and 2 will tell you haw I would frame the wall in your situation.+++Bob
@HomeRemodelWorkshop Same question as 4x12. Do you put up the top and bottom plates then attach the 2x4's or do you build the whole frame and then raise it up?
@sredworb Depending on your situation, if its a basement I explain how I would do it in my videos--Basement framing layout 1 and 2 shows how I would build it between existing floor and ceiling,suggest you check them out +++Bob Thanks for watching
Your videos are very concise. Thank you. Just subscribed.
However, The videos can be very disorienting when you change topics without that transition between scenes. Would you consider scene transitions in your videos - e.g. fade out or something - instead of cutting directly to the next scene?
I have a question: Do you have a particular reason for using the black marker as opposed to the pencil for marking your plates and studs?? I would assume visibility??
Exactly as the comment above was stated by rjsaunders92. Put your first stud flush to the end of the right side of the plate, then put a mark every 16" and an X on the left side. The stud will sit flush to the mark on top of the X. No point in splitting the measurement in half and lining up the stud to fit in the middle, that's bound to make for un level studs. If you layout like this your sheathing will line up on centers properly!!
Nothing personal. But that's not how pro framers do it.
really helpful video's... thank you. although, you say about measuring half the stud width from the 16" mark, not necessary, if you measure from the end of the plate (right end) then that will be the right side of the stud, so, every 16" mark will be the right of the stud so you can position each one to the left of the mark. make sense?
by the way, im not complaining, your video's are really helpful, just thought i'd say as its needless time spent measuring half the stud with and calculating...
@rjsaunders92 No offense taken. If you start with a standard size sheeting material your first sheet will not break at 4 ft 8 ft or 12 ft. Not that big a deal just might save a bit of material here and there.+++Bob
@HomeRemodelWorkshop Am i doing something wrong? it feels like math in school. you tell the teacher the correct answer but he didnt like the way you came up with it. I learned from my dad to mark the first measurement at 15 3/4 then from that mark you make the new marks @ 16c". when I start on the right i place the stud on the right of the mark reverse method for starting on the left. anytime i place full sheets on the wall 8' 10' 12' 14' length they always end on the middle of a stud.
@TimSDobson 10 and 14 footers do not line up evenly across 16" studs. 10' x12 = 120" / 16" = 7.5 studs. 8', 12', and 16' do line up evenly to 16" studs.
10 and 14 footers would line up evenly to 24" rafters or joists.
are you sure your name isnt bob shrum lmfao... the person translating your voice to captions must be high on a plethra of mexican drugs. good video tho :)
@awdiostuff I know that your thought process is if you have 1/2 inch drywall in corner you will need to adjust for that amount,however, no-one knows exactly the order the drywall will be hung so I start all my wall with the same lay-out from the corner,the small amount of trimming that is needed for any sheetgoods is worth the ease of doing exactly the same lay-out from corners every time.+++Bob
@awdiostuff Take into consideration, insulation and drywall hanging for the most part. A really cool book to check out is the "For pros by pros - Graphic guide to frame construction" by rob thallon. This book shows and talks about different ways to do framing. such as there is a method with a double stud near the corner, or you can save the extra stud and use drywall clips.
Bob, thank you so much. You put the cookies down on the shelf I could reach. You answered questions I didn't realize I was even asking. Great video!!! I'll stay tuned.
Good info but the text in the video is almost a joke. The transcription was done poorly and has a bunch on nonsense where important information is being conveyed.
i dont know anything about this, however, i'm starting to feel interested in it and i just wanted to thank u for explaining and posting this important and great information which is of much help for people like me who have no idea of how do these things.
I love these vids but.... this one can be confusing. You are framing so that each stud EXCEPT the first two are 16 on center. This method will indeed allow a piece of drywall to go flush to the right side and end up mid stud (471/4) to the left. Good method when adding a stud wall next to a finsihed wall. Smoove - does that help you out?
You've REALLY gotta do something about the captions on this video- nearly every frame has some horroble mistake! For example, at 0:06, you're quoted as saying "I've made it is and how to lay out to build your walls square in cyberspace how..."
MAN Bob sir, i wish my boss 2 years ago could have seen this video. of course old home re-models are always a little different, but my old bass WOULD NOT LISTEN to me and ended up paying me a lot of overtime fixing framing mistakes. you can imagine what other mistakes arose from poor framing layout. oh well, i did what the boss said and got a lot of overtime!!! LOL, Great video, as always.
Nice very helpful. But what do you when your cement floor under you bottom plate is not level?
I'm planning on adding a wall in my shed to section it between the storage side and the workshop side. tired of heating the storage side when I don't need to.
I am taking Carpentry this semester in College... pretty fast paced..
One thing I have to say is, we were laying out roof joist, and one of the guys was telling me what to mark down. I really did not get time to ponder on why, he was doing it the way he was doing it. After watching this video. I get it.
Makes sense. Of course he didn't explain any of the stuff that was mentioned in this video, which I found to be extremely important and informative info.
I have to tell you about your stain cleaning technique that uses an iron. I have used it twice now. It is great! You have saved me some money and hassle.
I see now why you need a 16" spacing after you explained the part about the insulation which is cut to fit perfectly in between the wall joints. Thanks so much for this information.
Is the 1st stud out of position in your example layout? You measured centers from the end of your plate, but the first stud is placed flush (rather than centered) with the edge of the plate. Please explain, this does not make sense to me.
@mcgoni The only reason it matters is to use as much of the full amount of sheetgoods as possible,be it plywood,drywall,and alot of standard building material sizes that require breaking on a stud+++Bob
Very well done. Cone comment, Top Joist layout was not as clear as you might be for the Layman. Hard to picture even with your prop. but awesome.
EricKirkhuff 1 day ago
Typical.
davidjosephorwell 3 days ago
Big help Thanks !
michael49221 2 weeks ago
Awesome info and tutorial. Thumbed Up, learned alot and had a crap load of fun with the subtitles Lol!
cyberyiyo 2 weeks ago
What do you do if your wall doesn't have enough length for even 16" spacing? let's say it is an odd size like 107" long. How do you handle the odd space at the end?
masm60 2 weeks ago
You sure explain things very well but I could tell many stories of hanging shelves and using studfinders and most of them did not do it right. I used several and finished drilling little holes sometime too many and became most annoyed at it. I hope I can learn but this is Australia so perhaps I need to learn a bit more!
1habicher 4 weeks ago
Don't know if you can answer this, but we have a house that was built in 1900. Did they use the same 16" stud layout, or did they usually go by a different standard back then? Reason I ask, is I can't use a stud detector (lathe strips under the plaster) and I want to hang crown molding in our dining room, but I don't want to be poking and prodding all over the place, trying to find the studs.
brian1969a 4 weeks ago
@brian1969a Hey Brian. As a rule yes they did. however due to the size of heat runs,plumbing locations and so on, they would sometimes get creative with their lay-outs. If you use a drill bit to drill plaster(behind where crown will cover) it will be less likely you will blow-out plaster that may happen if you use a trim nail, Hope this helps! +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 4 weeks ago
@brian1969a one thing you can do is if you have any pictures hanging on the wall and you know that the nail that they are on are in a stud than you can measure over and figure out where all the other studs are.
littlefreak8 1 week ago
How do you connect 2 or 3 of these to get wall lengths longer than 12 feet? Thanks, cb
Carmensquilts 1 month ago
@Carmensquilts If you are building interior walls simply lay-out all your plates at the same time and only build and raise 12 or 16 foot sections at a time connect after raising.+++Bob Have enough help available if raising larger sections,
HomeRemodelWorkshop 4 weeks ago
I'm a HS student taking carpentry and entering into the first part of the skillsUSA competition. We have to frame a wall as part of that. Anyways, I have a question. When you nail the studs in. Do you nail through the top of the top plate into the stud or an angle drive from the stud into the plate? Same for bottom?
-Mike, future skillsUSA national champion :)
BEASTsatisfaction 1 month ago
@BEASTsatisfaction FUTURE CHAMPION!!! Love the confidence. +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 month ago
@BEASTsatisfaction You would nail it with two nails per stud top and bottom, side nailing only where access to the bottom of the stud is not possible. You would than add a top plate (2X4) to cover the first top plate, taking care to overlap anywhere that two studs meet so as not to have any butted studs lining up. As for your corners, see if your local codes allow the use of short sections of 2x4's to make up space so as to minimize using full length studs .
EchosFromaBlankMind 4 weeks ago
Hey there, I'm a young carpenter that's starting the skillsUSA competition through my high schools OSTC. And part of that is framing a wall. So I have a few questions. I understand the measuring thing from the end. 3/4" off 16"OC. But when you nail the studs in place. Wouldnt the distance between studs be 14 1/2"? And when you nail the studs in, do you drive them in on an angle from the stud to the plate. Or through the top (or bottom) of the plate into the stud. Thanks!
-Mike
BEASTsatisfaction 1 month ago
@BEASTsatisfaction With the exception of the first stud that will be 13 3/4, the remaining field wall studs will be 14 1/2 between. If you are on new construction the plates are nailed thru plate into stud prior to "raising" the wall,if there is an appropriate angle to nail the nails in , I am not aware of it but after you hit your books please let me know if there is. Good Luck with the competition! +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 month ago
must be from Alaska. I only seen Alaskans layout with both boards flat.Explains everything good though.
lynxconstruction 1 month ago
Good God people the first and last stud DO NOT hang 1/2 off the top or bottom plate that is why the measurement is laid out as it is!
Kanoee64 1 month ago
@Kanoee64 Lol, I explained this a few time in this thread and the question keeps coming. I try not to get frustrated because I know what its like when you are new to something. However I did find humor in reading yours! Thanks for the chuckle! +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 month ago
I have the same concerns. By doing it as shown in the video, the distance between the center of the first and second studs will Not be 16". Is that on purpose?
chshwong 2 months ago
Thanks Bob
MountainsAndMemories 2 months ago
16" is one of the three common lay measurements. There also is 19.2" OC and 24" OC. The lay out can be different depending on load an the timber dimensions as well.
highcountrytimber 2 months ago
@highcountrytimber The 19.2" is commonly used in Canada correct?+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 months ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop Mostly in metal stud construction.
anaokar 1 month ago
Very good video. Great explanation and details. Thank you very much. Subscribed and liked it. Wish you success!! god bless
ThePartyGamer 3 months ago
so what happens at the far end of the frame when its not exactly 16" - - does it matter at that corner?
treebeard056 3 months ago
HELLO BOB, COULD U TELL ME THE PROPER WAY TO CROWN STUDS IN A 2X4 WALL? DO YOU PUT THE CROWN TOWARD THE "INSIDE" OF THE WALL, OR THE OUTSIDE? I AM FIXING TO START FRAMMIMNG WALLS, LIKE TOMORROW, I WILL START. THANKS FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE!
tomcat624u 3 months ago
@tomcat624u My "Tips for building straight wall video" Explains exactly this question! I will leave a message on your channel where I can put the link to this video+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 3 months ago
this is good, but arn't gaps usually and mainly 12 inch gaps? for most houses, walls etc.?
MFRoosy16 4 months ago
@MFRoosy16 Not sure I understand the question. Sorry +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 4 months ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop your studs are 16 inch center layouts. sometimes aren't they usually 12 inch centers?
MFRoosy16 4 months ago
@MFRoosy16 The standard is 16 inch centers for most typical projects, there are occasions that 12 inch centers may be required due to load restrictions ect. Hope this cleared things up a bit+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 3 months ago
@MFRoosy16 In Canada 16" o/c is the usual spacing. Im pretty sure it is the same in US
P3RSIANpinoy 3 months ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop : You put your 2x4's within the fram 16 inches apart, he is asking if it is normally 12 inches. Im not sure i can answer his quesiton, because this is day 2 of my construction of a 17x15 shed, ive never really built anything big. Wish me luck!
d0ntd0drugz 3 months ago
i already know all that stuff.but still,awesome vid..educational...thanks..
glock11yule 4 months ago
I have to say this video has been the most useful video to me up to this point. In the future I plan of doing some small scale construction for my own uses and have only a little construction experience. This video has cleared up a lot of questions I had. Thank you.
yesiamanalien 5 months ago
Well i`m a Welder/Fabricator and though we do simular things when setting out Balustrading & railings & the like, it was good to see this. I`m about to build a Studded type walled timber garage using 4"X2".. The size is 8M X 5Metre`s & height is 2.5M to the eaves & 4 Metre`s to the peak of the roof. The roof is going to be 18mm Ply with flatroof fibreglass type finish. T&G will clad external walls and ply sheets on the inside. Insulation will be installed but not sure what yet. Thanks for post.
Fred196407 5 months ago
What are the board sizes?
TheChrisapalooza 5 months ago
@TheChrisapalooza A standard 2x4 is 1 1/2 inch by 3 1/2 inch +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 5 months ago
Excellent video. Thank you
octorsep 5 months ago
Cool!! thanks
Andynelson08 5 months ago
great video ty much
chefman45887 5 months ago
Nice well done!!!
samuelmontoya17 6 months ago
thats was perefect, been looking for something like that for a while. awesome job!
peyoteprince 6 months ago
This was a great video - very informative. I "almost" feel like I can fix my floor and wall now... almost. If there are any contractors in Central Pennsylvania looking for work, please contact me!
PreBigBanger 7 months ago
thanks for the video
MrEd2664422 7 months ago
Very attractive and informative video.
teatea1010 8 months ago
thanks for the video, I'm building a wall next week actually and the tips were great actually I watched it twice because the captions are hilarious by them selves (youtube doesn't get all the words right drywall = ronald) lol :)
uselessmale 8 months ago
Thanks, I love when I find useful videos.
6sxpressdotcom 8 months ago
You guys really need to move on from burning witches and the imperial system. Metric is much clearer. I know both btw. Great video!
aiyic 8 months ago
@aiyic When I was in grade school the metric system was what I was to be using in high school ! LOL 30 years later, same old same old! +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 8 months ago 4
@aiyic quit being so judgmental.
mrlivingstonTn 7 months ago
Simple, clear and informative - Thank you!
myoldreteacher 8 months ago
Wow! that helps me soooooo much! I finally get it! Do you have a video about a 2x4 built in wall bookshelves with do it yourself cabinet doors....do You?? I have 5 children and I want to contain and control things in a locked and neat looking way.
alohachristine 8 months ago
This video is amazingly clear and informative. Thank you for going the extra mile and explaining WHY the studs have to be spaced like they are.
jasoneprise 8 months ago
Just to clarify, lets say your building a 10x10 room out of 2x4, your going to have 2 outside walls and 2 inside walls. This means on each of your outside walls you need to compensate for the inside walls which are 3 1/2" thick. So on the outside wall at the first stud to the second stud you'll need to account 3 1/2" and put another stud on the opposite side of that measurement, same for the opposite end of the outside wall.
BiOhArArDvsElement 8 months ago
Thanks Bob!! Your comprehensive video is so crystal clear.
t2713dl 8 months ago
Bob..... I need to borrow you for a weekend to help me frame my 12x10 shed!!!!!
Davey28car 8 months ago
@Davey28car Lol most lumber yards have kits for those sheds, You still have to put it together but it can make it alot easier.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 8 months ago
Grate Video Thanks!!
CMSplif 9 months ago
thank you so much. this has helped me so mmuch. i remember my grandfather saying i remember when 2x4 were actually 2x4. thanks again
dclistheman 9 months ago
Thanks for the video and you knowledge of construction. Great vid man.
texas3056 9 months ago
I may be wrong but if you 15 1/4" from the end stud your not going to be 16" on center with that one end stud, you will be with all the others, but that one will not be 16" on center?
Etsuki519 10 months ago 10
@Etsuki519 The first stud in the wall is not going to have material centered on it, it will begin at the lead edge of it , that is why there is a smaller space to begin with. I hope this is as clear to you as it seems to me +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 10 months ago 2
@Etsuki519 I agree. If you measure the center of the end stud to the center of the first stud, it's not 16 on center with this method. It's 15 1/4 on center from end stud to first stud.
meinestrasse 8 months ago
@Etsuki519 you're right..that first gap will be 15 1/4 and every other one will be 14 1/2....its much better just to measure 16 inches from the end of the first stud to the end of the following stud...will produce an even space between studs
blakkatacc 4 months ago
@Etsuki519
i agree with you that what your saying makes every stud 16 on center from the first one to the next , but your 16 3/4" to center from the end of the plate. ..right?
1988fox50 2 months ago
@Etsuki519
i agree with you that what your saying makes every stud 16 on center from the first one to the next , but your 16 3/4" to center from the end of the plate. ..right?
1988fox50 2 months ago
Hi Bob, me and my husband and a few other people are going to add a room onto our house. We are planning on having another baby. Therefore we need a nursery. It's just basically about a 17' x 10"-13" wide. The problem is where we are adding it. We are going to add it onto our Twins room flush with the side of the house and flush with the front. Well our driveway which is not smooth goes up to the twins room. What should we do about this?
a1percentersmith 10 months ago
You don't want to see the studs in my house! It was built in the 1920's and they're ALL over the place. Trying to find lines to screw boards into, or cut PU insulation, took FOREVER! For a messy result. If I ever build my own house, every room is going to divide into a whole sheet of board. :D
lexichronicle2 10 months ago
@lexichronicle2 Open floorplans are in! +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 10 months ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop thanks boss, just needed to know if there was much of a difference between metal and wood framing!! This helped out!!
donpaco86 10 months ago
@donpaco86 No difference in lay-out,many differences in application.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 10 months ago
@lexichronicle2 we are doing ours in 2ft. Minimal waste.
YiuTeub 10 months ago
@lexichronicle2 : yes! My house was built in 1924, and I feel your pain. But to add plaster walls into the equation is ever more challenging. Feathering in drywall with plaster wall is fun. Not.
HankCopeland 7 months ago
how about 16 and go?
DubstepTweaker 11 months ago
Keep up the good work. I like the simple instructions. A lot of people don't know about the red numbers on the tape! Good point... If you want more construction ideas check out my videos. Thanks for the tutorial!!!
emergencyfuelsaver 11 months ago
Good job..
TheJoecaprice 11 months ago
How to? More like "why to" :D
saqix 1 year ago
Hi again Bob. The existing stud structure utilized 2x4s straight from the saw mill and they aren't very consistent in their tolerance. I'm afraid there would be no way of ensuring the drywall doesn't beck
br3ktw 1 year ago
@br3ktw Lay-out entire wall on plates, then add 2 remove one continuing around structure. This is going with the assumption there is no exterior sheeting on these walls and electric and plumbing are to be removed and reworked later.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
Hi Bob. I wonder if you have any videos that can walk me through the best method for converting 24 inch on center walls to 16 inch on center walls? The room is 15x30 and is attached to a single level shop. The frame is exposed as I have already removed the walls themselves. Thanks for any advice you can give.
br3ktw 1 year ago
@br3ktw First a question, Why 16 inch on center and not 12 inch on center where you can just add studs centered between existing lay-out? +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
thanks bob
savalegions 1 year ago
what are the little black diamonds for on a tape measure ?
loneshark2000 1 year ago
typically you wanna use typical wood typically you want to center it that's typical or typically typical XD
mattix771 1 year ago
@mattix771 I get it! Bad habit,when you film videos in pieces then edit them together this happens sometimes. Usually I can edit more of it out than I did this time. I hope you found some of the information useful+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU .... Great info
kwc1981 1 year ago
@kwc1981 YAVW...+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
Thanks for this video. Very useful and explains alot
r0wney 1 year ago
Hi Guys,
I just purchased my first home. My garage is 24x14 and I want to split it in two... Have a work area and a jam room. Regarding the 2x4 framing, do I need to build the wall first and then put it up? Ill be doing this alone and that seems to be a little harder for a one man job... Can't I just start by nailing down the bottom and top of the fram into the wall then add the 2x4's making sure they are leveled?
4x12 1 year ago
@4x12 I actually have a few videos that might help you out. Basement framing lay-out 1 and 2 will tell you haw I would frame the wall in your situation.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop Thanks for the quick response Bob! Ill check the clips out asap!
4x12 1 year ago
@4x12 I also have a video about building straight walls you may want to watch also+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop Same question as 4x12. Do you put up the top and bottom plates then attach the 2x4's or do you build the whole frame and then raise it up?
sredworb 1 year ago
@sredworb Depending on your situation, if its a basement I explain how I would do it in my videos--Basement framing layout 1 and 2 shows how I would build it between existing floor and ceiling,suggest you check them out +++Bob Thanks for watching
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
u always have great tips! thanx mate!
binashraf 1 year ago
A little confused here by the video.
By measuring from the end of the plate, will that not make your centers off by about 3.5 inches (corner post)?
MrWhyfor 1 year ago
This was really helpful. Thank you for explaining this in a really practical way. It makes a lot of sense.
JerodSlay 1 year ago
Your videos are very concise. Thank you. Just subscribed.
However, The videos can be very disorienting when you change topics without that transition between scenes. Would you consider scene transitions in your videos - e.g. fade out or something - instead of cutting directly to the next scene?
VincentPriceRushJob 1 year ago
Your videos are very concise. Thank you.
I have a question: Do you have a particular reason for using the black marker as opposed to the pencil for marking your plates and studs?? I would assume visibility??
VincentPriceRushJob 1 year ago
Thank you you are right it works every time.
lonelywolf1964 1 year ago
Thank you. I'm building a model in architecture class, and I was always confused about 16'' O.C
Now I know how :D
SelenaRox5546 1 year ago
thanks that was really useful for do it your selfers like me.
tonyaboyte 1 year ago
i've watched this video and i've built a bungalow!! ...just kidding
BaranC 1 year ago
Exactly as the comment above was stated by rjsaunders92. Put your first stud flush to the end of the right side of the plate, then put a mark every 16" and an X on the left side. The stud will sit flush to the mark on top of the X. No point in splitting the measurement in half and lining up the stud to fit in the middle, that's bound to make for un level studs. If you layout like this your sheathing will line up on centers properly!!
Nothing personal. But that's not how pro framers do it.
krisdrepko 1 year ago
really helpful video's... thank you. although, you say about measuring half the stud width from the 16" mark, not necessary, if you measure from the end of the plate (right end) then that will be the right side of the stud, so, every 16" mark will be the right of the stud so you can position each one to the left of the mark. make sense?
by the way, im not complaining, your video's are really helpful, just thought i'd say as its needless time spent measuring half the stud with and calculating...
rjsaunders92 1 year ago
@rjsaunders92 No offense taken. If you start with a standard size sheeting material your first sheet will not break at 4 ft 8 ft or 12 ft. Not that big a deal just might save a bit of material here and there.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop oh. makes sense now... again, thanks for the useful tips!
rjsaunders92 1 year ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop Am i doing something wrong? it feels like math in school. you tell the teacher the correct answer but he didnt like the way you came up with it. I learned from my dad to mark the first measurement at 15 3/4 then from that mark you make the new marks @ 16c". when I start on the right i place the stud on the right of the mark reverse method for starting on the left. anytime i place full sheets on the wall 8' 10' 12' 14' length they always end on the middle of a stud.
TimSDobson 1 year ago
@TimSDobson 10 and 14 footers do not line up evenly across 16" studs. 10' x12 = 120" / 16" = 7.5 studs. 8', 12', and 16' do line up evenly to 16" studs.
10 and 14 footers would line up evenly to 24" rafters or joists.
silenttracks123 1 year ago
thank you bob there are plenty of us folks looking for advice simple and straight beginers, apreciate your time and help
chemamole 1 year ago
thanks man very helpful!
gusmore2000 1 year ago
@gusmore2000 Great glad to hear that!+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
Build billions of houses people.
omega4chimp 1 year ago
There I go, simplistic, too the point and a great start to wall building. THANKS!
havenoneatall 1 year ago
Very helpfull but those captions are horrible.
MBnjmn 1 year ago
Dude. The subtitles have loads of mistakes in them.
bobsagetlovesu 1 year ago
are you sure your name isnt bob shrum lmfao... the person translating your voice to captions must be high on a plethra of mexican drugs. good video tho :)
FARTNREDNECK 1 year ago
Great video but the captions are hilarious! "...fit in between a sixteen inch on center layout.." gives "the sixteen angeles federal aid" lmfao
Seriously though, thanks for all of the great information!
EnzoElite 1 year ago
Thank you
21cometa 1 year ago
Thank you this video was exactly what I was looking for.
Wilbert103 1 year ago
thanks
TheTruthoverlies 1 year ago
whoever does your subtitles needs be fired.
mrkookalabanza 1 year ago 15
@mrkookalabanza it's automatic, YouTube translates it and it's not always accurate, as you can see.
HIRExUP 6 months ago
Great job. Very clear and inclusive.
roynash 1 year ago
Once I build the first wall frame, what special considerations do I need to make to start the adjacent perpendicular wall?
Thanks for all your helpful videos.
awdiostuff 1 year ago
@awdiostuff I know that your thought process is if you have 1/2 inch drywall in corner you will need to adjust for that amount,however, no-one knows exactly the order the drywall will be hung so I start all my wall with the same lay-out from the corner,the small amount of trimming that is needed for any sheetgoods is worth the ease of doing exactly the same lay-out from corners every time.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
@awdiostuff Take into consideration, insulation and drywall hanging for the most part. A really cool book to check out is the "For pros by pros - Graphic guide to frame construction" by rob thallon. This book shows and talks about different ways to do framing. such as there is a method with a double stud near the corner, or you can save the extra stud and use drywall clips.
Acidburn24 1 year ago
should you put a subfloor on the basement or should you just put the walls up and secure them to the cement
primakr0n 1 year ago
Why is this got english subtitles when it is an english video?... plus half the words are wrong or missing lol
andrewbobbin 1 year ago
Bob, thank you so much. You put the cookies down on the shelf I could reach. You answered questions I didn't realize I was even asking. Great video!!! I'll stay tuned.
troutt99 1 year ago
You put in a tax? lol good video but the sub's are shocking
section23promotions 1 year ago
What a stud ; )
TheHandyGoddess 1 year ago
Good info but the text in the video is almost a joke. The transcription was done poorly and has a bunch on nonsense where important information is being conveyed.
callavoce 1 year ago
i dont know anything about this, however, i'm starting to feel interested in it and i just wanted to thank u for explaining and posting this important and great information which is of much help for people like me who have no idea of how do these things.
hebefeso 1 year ago
I'm looking for info on adding walls to a room with a suspended ceiling any suggestion where I can find examples of how this can be done?
acreativenative 1 year ago
Well that cinches it... I'm never building my own house.
dorgodorato 1 year ago
Great video a lot of knowledge from everything you say (you should write a book ;))... thanks
ak99372 1 year ago
Captions are messed up..
ambulanceahhh 1 year ago
Captioning Fail!
handofash 1 year ago
he said hunt and peck the closed caption said heart attack, ha ha.I was hoping to get info but the captions got the better part of my atten...
jasonnissan1 1 year ago
great vid, but what the heck is up with the weird text???
hopper540 1 year ago
what the hell is with the messed up close captioning
MichaelRecycles 1 year ago
I love these vids but.... this one can be confusing. You are framing so that each stud EXCEPT the first two are 16 on center. This method will indeed allow a piece of drywall to go flush to the right side and end up mid stud (471/4) to the left. Good method when adding a stud wall next to a finsihed wall. Smoove - does that help you out?
kiddevo47 1 year ago
Great to have the purpose of this 16" business explained. Always wondered about every tape measure I had having the 16" highlighted.
Thankyou
russellstumpskin 1 year ago
how do you frame an outside corner?
thanks
bolero3444 1 year ago
You've REALLY gotta do something about the captions on this video- nearly every frame has some horroble mistake! For example, at 0:06, you're quoted as saying "I've made it is and how to lay out to build your walls square in cyberspace how..."
WHAT THE F&&K DOES THAT MEAN????????
guitarosaur 1 year ago
who's writing those subs, anyway..... lol
anatrakya 1 year ago
BTW - good info. I'm buying a townhome, going to add a bathroom and bedroom in the basement. ty
petrpumpkineater 1 year ago
WTF??? Whoever did the captions is genius! LMFAO!
petrpumpkineater 1 year ago
Well said. Thanks.
t2713dl 1 year ago
great video, all infomations was so very helpful, ty for posting and taking your time to make the film. However... the subtitles are killing me, lol.
"drywall comes in for publicity fruitless particular place twelve foot lights"
Tisiphonni 1 year ago
Great info bob but the subtitles are 'eartha'
my hearing is'nt that great but even i can tell by lip sync that its 'eartha'.
1:50 what exactly is a freindly square!
4:54 No carpenter places joists to line up with sixty new senators!
To summarise, video = brilliant reference!!
Subtitles= what a load of complete and utter 'eartha kitt' LOL :-)
Keep up the good work bob
woodrat123 1 year ago
best building/carpentry/reno channel ive come across...
nijaexhile3 1 year ago
Super information, as usual. Great production values, too. Thank you!
davidqxo 2 years ago
Good sound advice and nice tip on the square as well. (Duh goes out to myself).
Very usefull pages. Thanks.
Jnkdog 2 years ago
MAN Bob sir, i wish my boss 2 years ago could have seen this video. of course old home re-models are always a little different, but my old bass WOULD NOT LISTEN to me and ended up paying me a lot of overtime fixing framing mistakes. you can imagine what other mistakes arose from poor framing layout. oh well, i did what the boss said and got a lot of overtime!!! LOL, Great video, as always.
playdrums 2 years ago
@playdrums was that the easiest chump change you ever made?
Tr0llsNeverDie 2 years ago
ok
Nice very helpful. But what do you when your cement floor under you bottom plate is not level?
I'm planning on adding a wall in my shed to section it between the storage side and the workshop side. tired of heating the storage side when I don't need to.
Thanks Jim
4909849057 2 years ago
@Vid
I am taking Carpentry this semester in College... pretty fast paced..
One thing I have to say is, we were laying out roof joist, and one of the guys was telling me what to mark down. I really did not get time to ponder on why, he was doing it the way he was doing it. After watching this video. I get it.
Makes sense. Of course he didn't explain any of the stuff that was mentioned in this video, which I found to be extremely important and informative info.
MRSketch09 2 years ago
cool
ringbolt9 2 years ago
As always, nice work.
I have to tell you about your stain cleaning technique that uses an iron. I have used it twice now. It is great! You have saved me some money and hassle.
ziggle314 2 years ago 4
I see now why you need a 16" spacing after you explained the part about the insulation which is cut to fit perfectly in between the wall joints. Thanks so much for this information.
semco72057 2 years ago
great vid
marcelstjean 2 years ago
Fantastic.
0MrENigma0 2 years ago
Thanks for your videos as always!
Is the 1st stud out of position in your example layout? You measured centers from the end of your plate, but the first stud is placed flush (rather than centered) with the edge of the plate. Please explain, this does not make sense to me.
SmooveTalker 2 years ago 7
The first stud is 15 1/4 inch to lead edge of stud+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop Does it not matter so much because it's the edge/corner of a wall section ( I presume?)
mcgoni 1 year ago
@mcgoni The only reason it matters is to use as much of the full amount of sheetgoods as possible,be it plywood,drywall,and alot of standard building material sizes that require breaking on a stud+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop
What do you mean by "lead edge of the stud"? do you mean the edge of the sill?
treebeard056 3 months ago