Where are most of the comments about her intro; sure it may be a bit wrong but really people the video is about the awesomeness of the song lets pay attention to that.
Well, there you are. Long time no see, Lady Justice. I liked the rendition, even if, as I've always noted, I think it flows better with a male knight instead of a lady night... It just sings more right.
Your introduction is a bit off. When Master Ivar Battleskald wrote that song down for me in the late 80's, he explained that writing it down was fine, just not singing it from the written word was his request.
"Once Upon A Time (ohh, some 25-ish years ago)...There was a Master of Arms
(remember, now...MOA's are recognized for their martial prowess, but do not
swear fealty to the Crown...) by the name of Ivar Battleskald.
Your introduction is a bit off. When Master Ivar Battleskald wrote that song down for me in the late 80's, he explained that writing it down was fine, just not singing it from the written word was his request.
"Once Upon A Time (ohh, some 25-ish years ago)...There was a Master of Arms
(remember, now...MOA's are recognized for their martial prowess, but do not
swear fealty to the Crown...) by the name of Ivar Battleskald.
WOW! I dont want to be rude, as this is a good version of this song, but i honestly do not like it one bit. Its one thing to change a bit of the song, its another thing to change the characters. Im sorry.
I am from Avacal/Antir and I learned it back in the 90's from a knight at an event in Weadsmeare. He did mention the passing through oral tradition and I did learn it about a male knight. I have a different tune as well. It is interesting how it has changed... What does the original author think?
i know a song based off of this called bored on the list field. sung the same way cept its about a night drinking. if i can find my lyrics too it i'll post a vid response
Wow, this is awesome! ^_^ I went to an SCA meeting when I was 10 years old and I only remember 2 things, being invited to sit at the duchesses table and hearing this song, I just now remembered the name of the song through much searching and I am happy to have found it. I wish I could have had more part in SCA but alas I have only been to that one meeting in my lifetime. When I heard the song though it was sung about a male knight, is this this the original version? or does anyone know?
Thank you all for your comments. It's obvious that across the Known World, we all have different traditions regarding this song, I think all should be embraced regionally. If you know someone that cannot learn just by the oral tradition, I did publish the words here, refer them to this page. If the oral tradition works, they can learn that way. You should stick to your own local traditions, and if writing it down is frowned on, learn from this video.
I am from Amtgard, and I have heard that song a few times, each time it has been slightly different, I have never heard that last verse but I must say I love it.
Wow interesting changes, my friend Master Ivar would be proud. However the posts people made were whacked... Ivar did insist it never be written down he wanted bardic drift. Also he wrote it after moving to Calontir from Ansteorra. It was written in response to his being a Master and not a Knight and wanting to go to a Chiv meeting here. Also it is not as old as the bard says... Although this bardic drift too would make him happy.
many people can not learn just from repetitive listening as one of those people i have to learn by visually looking at words for them to sink in. i do not really want to become a bard but i like joining in song sound a fire would it be ok for me to write this down or if i get caugh with it can i get in trouble i am fairly new to the society
hmmm i heard a some what different version cant quite remember the lyrics right now i will get them written down and share with you quite simmilar they are though
It's a tradition in many places. It's a tradition that's grown all over the SCA based on misinformation. No big deal, the SCA has plenty of other traditions that came from less noble ideals. :)
I rather like the idea of the oral tradition. It's how I learned a lot of my bardic material. And it would have been period-appropriate for many cultures.
I evented briefly in Ansteorra while visiting family several years ago. It was a place of great hospitality. Apparently, it's become an An Tirian custom then, to pass this down in the oral tradition. My apologies to Master Ivar for my ignorance, but this is what I've been taught for my ten years in the society. Thank you for your clarifying this.
Hmmm...I'm in Meridies, and was only told it could not be written down. Several knights, dukes and barons have video taped this around the camp fire during bardic...
Ivar wanted to know how the song would change due to oral tradition. What's interesting is that the "rules" of the song have changed more by oral tradition and inter-kingdom anthropology than the song itself has.
Good Sir, perhaps it was something that became an An Tirian custom. Are you here in the climes of our beautiful Kingdom? It had been told to me by many bards that there were rules against such, as Master Alen Bendbow mentioned as well.
To be honest, it was the author of the song himself. This intelligence comes to me from a friend of said song author. This is the only time I have ever recorded it, and I only did for two reasons: A student too far away to see enough to teach the song in the old way, and because I want people to hear this, to listen to my words sung here and learn it, and perform it.
My personal students are ONLY taught in the oral tradition, Master, and they have promised to keep tradition.
Who lifted the ban ? I am deeply saddened that the original author's wishes have been overturned. When it was sung in Avacal , it was much more solemn and never recorded as per the wishes of the author. - Deeply Saddened Pelican
Thank you thank you for singing the song I hope to see you at pennsic or war of the Roses
0181lee 1 week ago
It's a good performance of a great song. I have played it more than once.
freiman 2 months ago
Dam WTF is the werid stuff?
fribz123 2 months ago
Where are most of the comments about her intro; sure it may be a bit wrong but really people the video is about the awesomeness of the song lets pay attention to that.
DarkButterfly7709 3 months ago
Well, there you are. Long time no see, Lady Justice. I liked the rendition, even if, as I've always noted, I think it flows better with a male knight instead of a lady night... It just sings more right.
Sill a lot of haters on Youtube, it would seem.
BeorcKano 3 months ago
I think you've done a horrible disservice to this song. I learned it through the oral tradition, as it is EXPLICITLY instructed to be. Shame on you.
myrrath 4 months ago
Kingdom of An Tir!! Huzzah!
Diesa11 7 months ago
lol this song has definitely changed. The version I found on chivalry.com is Bored on the List Field and it's about knights getting drunk.
The original is really nice =) I'm not necessarily in SCA, but I do larp and I play a bard.
lunylvgd 1 year ago
chills
UtoobIsNWO 1 year ago
Master Ivar, insulted, left the group, without saying another word. He
retired to his tent, and proceeded to write "Born on the Listfield"... which
he performed at Court that evening.
No-one *ever* accused him of not understanding the concept of Fealty again."
BaronCrandall 1 year ago 2
Upon this fateful day, a group of Knights had gathered, and were discussing
the meaning of Fealty.
Master Ivar had joined their group; and at one point, he ventured an
observation.
His comment (lost in the mists of history) was met with disdain from the
Knights surrounding him...their response was:
"What do *you* know of Fealty?...You're just a Master of Arms."
BaronCrandall 1 year ago
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Your introduction is a bit off. When Master Ivar Battleskald wrote that song down for me in the late 80's, he explained that writing it down was fine, just not singing it from the written word was his request.
"Once Upon A Time (ohh, some 25-ish years ago)...There was a Master of Arms
(remember, now...MOA's are recognized for their martial prowess, but do not
swear fealty to the Crown...) by the name of Ivar Battleskald.
BaronCrandall 1 year ago
Your introduction is a bit off. When Master Ivar Battleskald wrote that song down for me in the late 80's, he explained that writing it down was fine, just not singing it from the written word was his request.
"Once Upon A Time (ohh, some 25-ish years ago)...There was a Master of Arms
(remember, now...MOA's are recognized for their martial prowess, but do not
swear fealty to the Crown...) by the name of Ivar Battleskald.
BaronCrandall 1 year ago
WOW! I dont want to be rude, as this is a good version of this song, but i honestly do not like it one bit. Its one thing to change a bit of the song, its another thing to change the characters. Im sorry.
xaronax 1 year ago
I am from Avacal/Antir and I learned it back in the 90's from a knight at an event in Weadsmeare. He did mention the passing through oral tradition and I did learn it about a male knight. I have a different tune as well. It is interesting how it has changed... What does the original author think?
baronesscattea 1 year ago
i know a song based off of this called bored on the list field. sung the same way cept its about a night drinking. if i can find my lyrics too it i'll post a vid response
nystyr 1 year ago
@nystyr Do a google search for "bored on the list field" should be the first result.
RayneLeFey 1 year ago
Very well done song. I enjoyed listening to it. This is the first time I have heard it. Where might I find it?
Knightsquire74 1 year ago
can I request battle of maldon by Lady Rosalind Jehanne
poisonwalker 2 years ago
wow this song is beyond beautiful
Jpj226 2 years ago
Wow, this is awesome! ^_^ I went to an SCA meeting when I was 10 years old and I only remember 2 things, being invited to sit at the duchesses table and hearing this song, I just now remembered the name of the song through much searching and I am happy to have found it. I wish I could have had more part in SCA but alas I have only been to that one meeting in my lifetime. When I heard the song though it was sung about a male knight, is this this the original version? or does anyone know?
BlueSkies138 2 years ago
Thank you all for your comments. It's obvious that across the Known World, we all have different traditions regarding this song, I think all should be embraced regionally. If you know someone that cannot learn just by the oral tradition, I did publish the words here, refer them to this page. If the oral tradition works, they can learn that way. You should stick to your own local traditions, and if writing it down is frowned on, learn from this video.
AsnyHaakonsdottir 2 years ago
I am from Amtgard, and I have heard that song a few times, each time it has been slightly different, I have never heard that last verse but I must say I love it.
alevelle07 2 years ago
@alevelle07 dude i go to amtgard too. im kenta's kid, kodi
nystyr 1 year ago
Wow interesting changes, my friend Master Ivar would be proud. However the posts people made were whacked... Ivar did insist it never be written down he wanted bardic drift. Also he wrote it after moving to Calontir from Ansteorra. It was written in response to his being a Master and not a Knight and wanting to go to a Chiv meeting here. Also it is not as old as the bard says... Although this bardic drift too would make him happy.
scaweaver 2 years ago
vivot fellow scadians from trimaris
many people can not learn just from repetitive listening as one of those people i have to learn by visually looking at words for them to sink in. i do not really want to become a bard but i like joining in song sound a fire would it be ok for me to write this down or if i get caugh with it can i get in trouble i am fairly new to the society
mitchell85347 2 years ago
hmmm i heard a some what different version cant quite remember the lyrics right now i will get them written down and share with you quite simmilar they are though
bloodredsandman12333 2 years ago
It's a tradition in many places. It's a tradition that's grown all over the SCA based on misinformation. No big deal, the SCA has plenty of other traditions that came from less noble ideals. :)
morgunn 2 years ago
I rather like the idea of the oral tradition. It's how I learned a lot of my bardic material. And it would have been period-appropriate for many cultures.
AsnyHaakonsdottir 2 years ago
The Author, Master Ivar, is from Ansteorra, as am I and the Duke who told me he had not prohibited the writing or recording thereof.
morgunn 2 years ago
I evented briefly in Ansteorra while visiting family several years ago. It was a place of great hospitality. Apparently, it's become an An Tirian custom then, to pass this down in the oral tradition. My apologies to Master Ivar for my ignorance, but this is what I've been taught for my ten years in the society. Thank you for your clarifying this.
AsnyHaakonsdottir 2 years ago
Hmmm...I'm in Meridies, and was only told it could not be written down. Several knights, dukes and barons have video taped this around the camp fire during bardic...
LdEdward 2 years ago
Ivar wanted to know how the song would change due to oral tradition. What's interesting is that the "rules" of the song have changed more by oral tradition and inter-kingdom anthropology than the song itself has.
morgunn 2 years ago
The king who knighted me knows Master Ivo and also stated that Ivo did NOT proscribe against this song being written or recorded.
morgunn 2 years ago
Good Sir, perhaps it was something that became an An Tirian custom. Are you here in the climes of our beautiful Kingdom? It had been told to me by many bards that there were rules against such, as Master Alen Bendbow mentioned as well.
AsnyHaakonsdottir 2 years ago
Master Pelican,
To be honest, it was the author of the song himself. This intelligence comes to me from a friend of said song author. This is the only time I have ever recorded it, and I only did for two reasons: A student too far away to see enough to teach the song in the old way, and because I want people to hear this, to listen to my words sung here and learn it, and perform it.
My personal students are ONLY taught in the oral tradition, Master, and they have promised to keep tradition.
AsnyHaakonsdottir 3 years ago
Who lifted the ban ? I am deeply saddened that the original author's wishes have been overturned. When it was sung in Avacal , it was much more solemn and never recorded as per the wishes of the author. - Deeply Saddened Pelican
Bendbow 3 years ago