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  • While not American, I've always keenly followed US politics because it's like reading an unending satirical, dystopian novel (which, if it were, critics would trash for being too over the top, incidentally), but with the added thrill of depression! Because it's real! Joy!

  • 15 dislikes. Even with blatant evidence. Unbelievable.

  • Republican Senators and Congressmen are scared of losing the T-Bag idiot vote. That's why they are acting so stupidly. The GOP will self destruct if they continue to be held hostage by those extremist nutjobs... It's the Republicans that need to grow up, Rachel, not the Democrats.

  • @blackfox0911 your really stupid for a complete list of how message me back ;)

  • and could NEVER beat conservatism in a fair fight. Fox, Rush Limbaught, Glenn Beck, Andy Dean, Michael Savage, among many others, are the glue that holds the American fabric together. WE, conservatives, are the 99%. Liberalism should simply disappear into the shame and misery it deserves and let the REAL adults progress this country

  • @BlackFox0911 you keep drinking the kool-aid and let the sane people have a rational discussion about what the next step is.

  • @BlackFox0911 What the hell is Kool Aid. I am glad that we are in a nation where we can think for ourselves. Fuck you Nazi wanna be types!

  • I'm not going to make a sarcastic pun. I'm not going to point out a fallacy or your many hypocrisies (and trust me, it wouldn't be difficult to find a myriad of hypocrisy). I'm just going to point out a truth.

    Nobody cares about liberalism, and nobody cares about PMSNBC. Their 4 brainwashed viewers (which may or may not include their own mothers) are in COMPLETE denial that communism died in Russia. They also refuse to let die the countlessly proven truth that liberalism is a dead theology and

  • Rachel, Bankrupting the country is not good policy. Lets point out that Warren Buffett pays a tax rate of about 34% and his secretary assuming she makes around $50,000 a year pays 19% tax rate. Why don't you report bold face lies when they are made by Obama. Why do you choose not to inform your listeners.

  • @CrowleyLarryE Warren buffet does not draw a paycheck. His income is from dividends and interest. The tax rate on that is 15%. Read the Tax Code.

  • November 2011 was but one example of how much of an embarrassment the Democrats are. Twist it however you want, PMSNBC, America is overwhelmingly conservative. Your failed attempt to break the momentum of the Tea Party and the GOP will manifest itself again in 2012, again proving the worthlessness of progressivism and the agenda you try to shove down our throats. I look forward to laughing at you again

  • This is exactly what I keep saying they just care about making obama out to be the bad guy. Even though they are the ones who supported all the BUSH CRAP!!!

  • GOP = Greed Over People

    

  • The reality is beginning to set in, and you see the fear in the "anchors" of PMSNBC (I put anchors in quotes because MSNBC doesn't really have "anchors" so I'm having to use a comparative term to the REAL news artists on Fox). Liberalism is a disgrace, a joke, and a failure. Americans were lured into their propaganda for a while, but are starting to see it for the forked tongue hate mongers that they are. Rest in the shame and disgrace that you deserve, liberalism.

  • Rachel Maddows is a dumb bitch, and I just found this video to say that... I didn't watch it at all... Just wanted to get that out.

  • Rachael my dear, when will you ever tell the truth? Never!? Well then quit polluting the airwaves with cherrypicked data and expose liberal hypocrisy for what it is...a deathwish for conservatives, or more precisely, practicing Christians. Malicious words from the left ALSO incite violence. Shame on MSLSD for giving all of us a bad trip, what a bummer.

  • This is all too funny. I wish politics were this entertaining in Canada.

  • Will Obamacare cover Ralph Maddows sex change operation?

  • That's a female? Oh a lib ..never mind!

  • @SuperSeabreeze1 UR DUMB... CONSERVATIVES WOMEN LOOK LIKE JUNE CLEAVER AND ARE DUMB ASS SARAH PALIN

  • Would just like to point out that the tactics the Republicans use, are the EXACT same tactics Democrats use when they have the minority in the House and Senate

  • GOP is doing anything to when elections.

  • Maddow is a commie creep!

  • @ConservativeStudios why? cause she tells the truth....

  • This fruity guy is just a globalist shill.

    No wonder it's ratings are so low.

  • @espada9 hahaha....only critique you have is her looks...typical! you know what she is reporting is true!

  • Yeah shes objective

  • as hypocritical as politicians present themselves to be time and time again it's sad to see that the general public is too ADD to actually do something about them.

  • Rachel is by far the most FACTUAL news host on T.V. She is far above the fray, she's meticulously detailed and doesn't use spin, propaganda or play games like the frauds at Fox News. She will soon be up there with Jon Stewart who also speaks facts and doesn't spin. She is going to be a household name within five years. If only more would follow her lead. It doesn't matter what she is as far as her political stance what matters is her amazing detail to facts. Right wing idiots exposed! BRAVO!

  • someone needs to keep telling the dems... they won the election. And while we are at it.. tell MA too bad they threw away their Senate seat. By the way?? has anyone heard from "41?" Let him know health insurance reform passed...

  • thx  Rachel - ths is proof their country means nothing to them - pathetic - we need to send their asses to Russia

  • @mwb970

    Holding the nation back from what?

    Could it be they are attempting to hold the nation back from slipping into Socialism.

  • Watch out!!!! Go hide in the basement. The SOCIALISTS are coming.....

    Do you even know what socialism means? The wealthy using govt to protect themselves from "market" corrections and forces, and to channel cash toward themselves ; exploiting the ignorant masses for their own greed.....yeah, 'tis all good, but........

  • When the poor want basic food and shelter and healthcare--they're called "lazy, slackers" When bankers and others wants special benefits and bailouts, it is all good !

  • @PaineLover: The poor need JOBS not welfare!

    Bankers and business should NOT be in bed with government and special interest groups shouldn't have ANY influence over policy or party.

  • @espada9 When the wealthy , the CEO's of huge corporations use the goverment to protect themselves from "market" corrections and forces, channel cash toward themselves, insert and avail themselves of as many financial supports from the govt and the taxpayers as possible....they do not call it WELFARE. But let some poor laid off worker ask for benifits which he paid into! Ohhhh....no that is "welfare"?, that is a "handout"....or "socialism"?

  • The rich and powerful embrace socialism for themselves and their own ends all the godamned time.  Corporate CEO's, insurance company execs live like fucking Kings all using reverse Robin Hood tactics.....nahhhh....that's not socialism to THEM!

  • do you even know what Socialism is?

  • @hentia2 lol, I was gonna ask that idiot the same thing.

  • I can't stand republicans! They are holding the nation back. They are holding the American people hostage to their hatred for the president, just like al Qaeda would if they could. They are no better than our enemies.

  • And you are no more intelligence than the steaming pile I left in the commode...

    When you have to resort to painting your political opponents as morally equivalent to one of the greatest modern evils, you've already lost the debate.

    I at least give you a modicum of credit for not parroting the usual "Republicans are Nazis" liberal nonsense, but you're still a blithering idiot. Grow up and learn some logic.

  • @mwb970 they act like enemies....

  • @mwb970 Holding the country back from what, an all out communist frontal assault? Are you taking into account the venom and rancour aimed daily at Bush, that continues to this day? Blind hypocrite, at least Bush has a birth certificate and surely you voted for someone who doesn't. Blame the ones getting hit with rocks, not the rock throwers? Little wonder we've already lost this country with moral equivalence like that. Find a brain and protect it from pot, or is it too late?

  • @chickenwretch please don't bring up Obama's birth certificate, it's been proven he's a US citizen. Fuck there's even a law or some shit against non-US citizens running for political office so he couldn't have held a position in government if he wasn't born in America.

    I really don't think "communist" means what you people seem to think it means. you might wanna check up on that.

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  • Does anyone else think Rachel Maddows looks like Jon Stewart?

  • @jankren Agreed!

  • THIS is the reason why the public believes that government is broken ... the republiKKKans countinue to f$%k with us, even without the chimp and his evil troll in office

  • Rachel Maddow is so great.

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  • YAY Rachel! You're my hero!!

  • Thank god for Rachel, I just hope that there are some who can understand the idiocy of the GOP's politically toxic grandstanding...what? you have to spend some money to generate some money?? wow!! anyone who doesn't know how countries like South Korea, Japan, or China have become economic powerhouses ought to study it- yup, strategic spending is good policy if you want to 'stimulate' industry..

  • It is clear that they oppose the President because he is black. It's embarrassing, it's sad, and it's true. The truth does hurt.

  • The day has come!!! The Republicans support President Obama's idea of building a nuclear power plant in Georgia! This is a once in lifetime moment we must celebrate.

  • You go Rachel!

  • Nobody would be any richer if every American gets money? Interesting theory. Who would you suggest be given the money?

  • Correct. Let's describe two scenarios. In one scenario, the government taxes its citizens' for a total of 787 billion dollars. The government is now up 787b, the country as a whole is down 787b. It redistributes the 787b into the economy. Now we're back to where we started. In the other scenario, the government borrows 787b and distributes it to its citizens. In a closed economy, prices go up by whatever % 787b adds to GDP per capita. Nobody is any richer.

  • Basically the misguided belief in the stimulus is half genuine belief in Keynesian economics - that individual consumers act rationally when faced with a recession and save money, yet when every individual acts this way it turns a recession into an exaggerated depression (paradox of thrift). Half is the way GDP is calculated - gov't expenditure is part of what is added to get GDP, so we can see definite results (GDP is up x%!) by simply borrowing and spending money.

  • @hitherebuddy812

    YOUR clearly a idiot. Thank god nothing you said made any sense.

  • @cl3anupman,

    Actually, hitherebuddy812 has made some interesting points.

  • If any of you were informed rather than mindless drones believing whatever you were told by biased reporters, you would know that only three industries have grown over the past year, health, education, and GOVERNMENT! So get some facts before you start running your mouth.

  • lol, butch

  • Yeah, I wish Republicans would just go ahead and admit that it's a great idea to bribe voters with federal money which will have to be repaid by our children and grandchildren.

  • You people are all over the place and are only showing your ignorance on the issues. Sure would be nice to see someone really debate some issues in a civil manor. Oh, and Maddow does have people from the Republican side, but don't care to hear the rhetoric myself. Also, did you know that Fox lost Murdock 100 million per year for its first 5 years? I think MSNBC is doing just fine and growning stronger every quarter.

  • It's a documented fact that the States which receive the most Federal dollars per Federal taxes paid are the more Conservative-leaning States. Conversely, the States on the other end of the spectrum are the more Progressive-leaning States...and then the Right want to come and rant and rave about Socialism. Give us taxpayers in NY, CA, MA, NJ, IL, CT, etc... back our money, you rightwing hypocritical parasites.

  • So what? Dems flip flop on issues all the time. Rachel just doesn't attack her own.

  • Oh please, get off this flip flop talk. I want my president to be able to change his mind when circumstances change. Calling some on a flip flopper is just stupid

  • @Fringe111

    It's called integrity you should look into it.

  • It's not about flip flop. It is about outright hypocricy. They are against it or they are for it. They cannot be both at the same time. They come back from ceremonies get on Fox and talk bad about the plan just because it is a plan Obama is for. There may be some other underliying reason for the NO party's antics. I wonder what it could be?

  • All republicans need to die.

  • Republicans are just the party of NO NO NO. That is all there is to it.

  • why don't the democrats stop obsessing about the republicans in the minory and just ram through their crap they want and stop crying about the damn republicans.

  • Because they're both working for the same boss - banks. Everything else is ultimately theatrics for the peons.

  • I agree. Yes why don't they. Sompin' wrong here, i'm agreeing with a righty.

  • @lizardgizard2002, I'd rather have "no" then another disaster like the foreclosure debacle.

  • I know you would you are one of the "NO" people.

  • @lizardgizard2002, Too bad someone did not say "No" to giving subprime mortgages to unqualified borrowers. Saying "yes" has almost bankrupted this country!

  • I agree with ya there.

  • @lizardgizard202, Thank you!

  • Republicans, and all politicians for that matter, are clearly hypocritical.

    It's important to remember though that the money used in the stimulus was money that has already been taxed out of the economy, gone to the government, and then some of it is given back. It's nice when you get it back, but I can't imagine you get more than 75% back. A republican might "no" to force the budget lower so that it couldn't be taxed out next year

  • Sure there are republicans playing politics! And there are at least as many democrats that have done the same. But of course Maddow will not show them right along side here- slanted reporting. These are die-hard politicians (both D & R) that need to be tossed out in 2010 and replaced with true conservatives.

  • @wc4r, Rachel Maddow never has the opposite view on her show (debate). She only allows "yes" men . .oops . .or women.She only invites people who agree with her, which is why her ratings are sooooo low.

  • This is total BS, obviously you've never watched her dismantle focus on the family advocates on her own show, or the many times she has had her "Uncle Pat" Buchannan on her program. Republicans are afraid to go on her show because they tend to look ridiculous.

  • deviant: Unbelievable stupidity

    You believe Repubs are afraid to go on Maddow's show? LMAO!! Oh yes dipshit... every Repub on a local, state & fed level across the country are "afraid". Every GOP campaign strategist, pundit & spokesperson are "afraid". They go on all other shows but Maddow is "scary". hahaha

    Buchanan is a weak Repub.. that's why MessNBC hired him. She doesn't bring people on to even defend their own names because she LIES. Your ignorance is mind-blowing....

  • You wouldn't be able to bring a single example of Maddow "lying", which is why you didn't. How about you try dealing in facts.

    I'll wager that one of your "strong" Republicans has a list a mile long of well documented lies, as any of the well known Republicans such as Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Beck are completely full of crap.

    Go play with your teabags.

  • deviant: With you being an MSNBC fan, you are the last person who should be instructing someone to deal with "facts"

    Maddow & Olbermann lie on a daily basis --- some people who had a few brain cells left finally caught on

    Take this video as an example. Maddow knows how easy it is to confuse the little brains of her viewers

    Repubs voted against bills after last minute changes or waste was injected

    States were forced to take $ from stimulus; Repubs were simply allocating the funds

  • Obviously you missed the point of the video.

    What Rachel talked about was the Republicans who advocated against the stimulus, voted against it, and then TOOK CREDIT for the benefits that came from it.

    THAT is rank hypocrisy and I'm curious to see how exactly you would disagree with her message. There is nothing dishonest in this video and you have still failed to point out any lies.

  • deviant: Perhaps the subject is a bit too complex

    Republicans opposed a stimulus of waste & of money allocated to projects that does nothing to to actually "stimulate". If you recall, Obama wanted $ allocated to expand unemployment. WTH does that do to stimulate? Not to mention, permanently raise unemployment expenditures in each state

    Forced money -- Repubs are using for actual worthy projects, not tattoo removal & multi-million dollar projects w/only 20 employees needed

  • Except for the fact that the money was allocated for SPECIFIC purposes by the stimulus bill, so these WORTHY projects you are talking about, were decisions by Democrats who voted for the bill.

    Nice try though...

    It was not these Republicans who decided what this money was spent on.

    Once again, it is the Republicans in the Senate who are impeding progress and voting against the kinds of things that they were enthusiastically supporting when Bush jr was in charge.

  • deviant24: LOL

    Do you really believe that Congress decided exactly what projects would take place in each state? Are you really that dumb?

    You state: "It was not these Republicans who decided what this money was spent on".

    LMAO... your level of stupidity is utterly amazing. It's no surprise you are a mindless MessNBC watcher. Like I said.... mind-blowing stupidity

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  • fuck republicans

  • I wish every die hard Democrat and Republican would just drop dead. Neither side represents my views. Republicans seem like cartoon villians and Democrats seem like self righteous douche nozzles. The two party system needs to be eliminated to save this great country.

  • Oh boy! hypocrites!

  • Hahahaha...GOP=hypocracy, listen, just listen to the facts.

  • Are you saying "listen to the facts" or "listen to Racel Madcow"? There's a big difference there you know? Do your own research, don't just come in here and make it so obvious that you enjoy the koolaid.

  • @Truth(right?) I got your koolaid right here biatch, she's not lyin'.

  • Republicans need to get over it YOU LOST!!! You're not going to do anything about it so shut the fuck up and stop with the crybaby shit.

  • @migg4620 Yes, exactly we know that. At least there's one person here that's owning up to it LOL

  • This was great, now I want to see the video where the Democrats did the same thing from 06-08, and continue to blame Bush for everything. I doubt I'll be holding my breath.

  • @whw220whw, I agree! Let's talk about Barney "screamer" Frank and Chris Dodd, who both played a big hand in this foreclosure debacle AND they don't admit it!!!!

  • Obama's ratings are in the toilet for good reason his last few brain washed sheep need to own that.

  • I like this Rachel Maddow guy - how long has he been on the air?

  • ahh i see what ya did there

  • While this is all true, she doesn't address the real underlying problem, which is that BOTH parties do this same crap, especially in the committee rooms where they screw with one another til the cows tip. It's an out of control vitriol that will ONLY stop when we get rid of EVERY SINGLE IMCUMBENT. A bloodless coup, if you will, where we take our country back thru the voting booth, ignoring the two parties and their drivel. Make candidates promise to bring and vote for TERM LIMITS

  • what's with the short man-like hair. we get it, your a lesbian, look good already. (p.s. this is how to boost your ratings 100%)

  • That's how Republicans are. They hate when the government spends, but if the money goes to their state they're happy. They say "Government is the problem not the solution" but try to convince those 80 yr old white guys to retire and it's 'from my cold dead hands!" What a bunch of hypocrites! LOL

  • wow---she ripped them up!!!

  • they're against that too.

    there i said it.

    repubs are our worst enemies.

    they are theones that dont love oue country.

  • DON'T FORGET THE DEMOCRATS ,they

    are on the other side of the same COIN .

    The speaker of the house Nancy P just

    received a brand new private plane 4 her,

    family & friends paid for by the American

    people .all politicians are SOB period.

  • Hahaahahaha

  • Damn Rachel, stop kicking so much ass up in here, you know these false fronts can't take it!!

  • Sorry but..........fuck the repub monkeys!!

  • I hear she is in her SEX CHANGE?

  • Hey guys you know the best way to kill a troll is to ignore him right???

  • Stop wasting time with TruthTacticsdotcom. He/she is representative of the faux-working class anger and bible thumping empathy with which people have built a wall of comfortable ignorance. They are eagerly spoon-fed digestible 'truths' about those who are making policy in their name. Ignorance is truly bliss for people like you, Mr. dotcom. But your bliss is fucking our country up. You are representative of the simple minded, hypocritical attitude Maddow is addressing. Please stop.

  • You're a complete and utter moron for sure. This Country had record low unemployment and record high dow jones averages during the last administration, right up until 2006. Does that year ring a bell? Yep it's when the Dems took control of congress. So you need to wipe the koolaid mustache off of your face, and get back to class. It's people like you that drink the MSNBC koolaid and beg for more that are killing this Country. The proof is in the pudding. Dems in charge now - country fucked now.

  • @TruthTacticsdotcom

    I couldn't even begin to answer yourf simplistic comment.

  • @njdion - I know. I didn't really expect you to. lol

  • pretty chic + nice voice and intelligent

  • It only proves that Obama is a centrist since he still wants to work with Republicans. Socialist? I think not.

  • There are two reasons why the republicans are being hypocritical. The first and foremost is the attempt to regain absolute power. The second pure and simple is that they have a black president which they have yet to accept mentally. Combine those two ingredients and you have their motive for being what they are! The party of No! To bad the lower middle class whites and others cannot see through this veil.

  • @gjohnson87109 - That's right the lower class whites did not see through the veil - that's why Obama got a majority of the vote. Believe me, the lower middle class whites always vote in the president. They are still the largest majority in this country. They are starting to see through the curtain now though. And they're getting ready to clip the puppet strings this November.

  • I think this might make me start watching Rachel Maddow's show even though I hate MSNBC

  • asl?

  • THE reason why Fox has views is because they keep telling everyone that they are going to die if they dont vote GOP

  • Bush was an idiot

  • for those of you who rag on how he has spent more than multiple presidents put together. He has far more problems to deal with thanall of them put together. Obama needs to get some balls and start slappin some peole around. You rats in the maze need to quit reacting to any button they push and began to actually think for yourself. We are being persuaded to think that we actually think for ourselves.

  • Congrats Rachel......people are finally watching your show, too bad its only a Youtube clip. LOL

  • They are joined in making sure Obama fails so they can win the next elections. They are only interested in they're party coming out on top. They are not interested in America coming out on top.

  • So true. Rush Limbaugh literally SAID that RIGHT OUT. Talk about un-American!

  • Rachel is the SMARTEST and most HONEST person on the air right now. I DARE any conservative to disprove ANYTHING she just said.

    As a male lesbian, I want to have her babies.

  • Rachel, thanks for showing how the republicans don't care about the American people, again.

    The reckless REPUBLICAN fiscal, tax and monetary policies caused the deficit problem and the requirement for a stimulus package. The republicans ran up Americas VISA without thinking or caring how they would pay for it, all the while trying to hide this from the American people.

    Funny how the republicans have temper tantrums because we have to do defict spending to fix the problem they caused.

  • no hope for JmboVds

  • @ JexiesGhost - I hope all Dems are dumb enough to say this kind of stuff out loud.

  • No Federal money to Republican States. They are traitors to America

  • @SatwaMan, Dem states are doing lousy. Too much spending and high taxes, which chases away business.

  • @yogeedogee by dem states do you mean their governor? or who they elected president? what do you mean? congress is the place where this spending and taxing is signed into law, the governor and president have NOTHING to do with this...saying dems are responsible for taxing or spending is ignorant, there's at least 100 politicians at work when these things are decided and they're not all democrats...

  • @gofudgeyourselfx, I've lived in Dem states all my life (RI, MA, CA). They sometimes have Republican Governors, but the Dem legislature usually rule. The Republican gov. will often veto a bill, but the Dem legislature overrides it. The Dems are in bed with the unions and they tend to spend too much on entitlements. CA and RI both have terrible deficits. I won't be surprised if one of them goes bankrupt.

  • Just more hyperbole, surface scratch in-depth TV news coverage that preaches to the choir. If more people READ BOOKS about history and politics, they'd have come to the conclusion that politics in America are completely fucked. Turn the TV off and actually read something, America; TV makes you fucking dumb.

  • Ron Paul is the only honest guy in office... the rest of them wouldn't even make good fertilizer...

  • If the teabaggers could read or even if they could catch the essence of an argument based on fact I'd love to send each of them Rachel's video on GOP Hypocrisy on Stimulus Spending.

  • Strange how you don't see any of the usual braindead teabaggers posting nonsense about Obama for this story. Why? Because they can't deny that the GOP is full of it.

  • dgds

  • Owned.

  • She's right, of course. It's time to simply ignore them and to do what needs to be done. Bipartisanship with playground bullies is impossible.

  • @TruthTacticsdotcom Hey like I said before. If republicans believed the stimulus was wrong and voted no then their districts should get what they voted for. Nothing. Perhaps getting nothing would get them voted out of office

  • @TruthTacticsdotcom Doesnt it seem inconsistent to say you're against the bill but then you want some little piece of it?

  • it's obvious that repugs lying to your face and voting against your best interests means absolutely nothing to you.

    Absolutely incredible.

  • @TruthTacticsdotcom typical remark from a faux watcher- avoid dealing with the truth. the point was that all of them voted no but are taking credit for the money going to their states-address the issue

  • You love your ignorance don't you? Do you realize that, with the exception of Texas, most red states get more in federal money than they pay out in federal taxes? Do you realize that it's the blue states (NY, CA, IL, MA) that are losing federal money to these red states? What do you think would happen to Mississippi if they didn't received that federal money?

    God, some of you Repubs are dumb.

  • God, where do you idiots get your bullshit. The Tax Foundation (hardly a liberal site), has Federal Taxes paid vs. Federal Taxes Received for each state from 1981 through 2005. IL has consistently been a donor state (which probably explains it's current situation).

    In 2005, IL paid 99.7 Billion in Federal Taxes, but only received 80.7 Billion in Federal spending. Which means it donated 19 Billion to welfare states like MS and Alaska.

    This isn't opinion, it's fact. Unlike your bullshit.

  • You're a complete Moron, Of the 15 biggest welfare states, 14 of them are Democrat. That's according to CNBC, and that is even from a slanting left website.

    What does that tell you? Dems are moochers. They leach off of society. So again I say, if you want the tit, pay for it yourself you lazy bums.

  • WTF do you mean by welfare state. I'm giving you facts and you're spouting off ignorance. Smartass, if IL (and CA, and NY) gives more money to the federal government than it gets from the federal government, how can you call it a welfare state?

    Alaska, which is as red as blood, gets more federal money for each dollar paid in taxes than any other state in the union. So I have to ask, wtf are you talking about? Or are you just bullshitting?

  • @ shalcall - these are welfare states, because the citizens of these states take more welfare from the govt than the other states. And guess what? to be on welfare means that you don't have a good job. So your made up scenario of them putting more in than getting out is utter BS. These are the FACTS from CNBC - I didn't make it up. Talk to your liberal friends at CNBC. Proven - Dems are moochers, just admit it.

  • God, you're dense. Let's just take what you said as a given, that IL spends more on welfare than other states (it doesn't, but we'll let it go). Fine. The FACT remains that IL (through those people that do pay taxes) sends more money to the federal government than they receive back, even for welfare.

    ALL the money spent on welfare in IL comes from IL. SOME money spent on hurricanes in TX comes from TX, the rest comes from other states.

  • Are you a complete moron? Illinois is not the only Democrat state. The only reason it pays out more, is because it has other large Republican cities in it that help to shore it up. But the fact still remains that the other welfare states are all moochers. And even though Illinois averages out - not being a moocher, guess what? Chicago is still a huge moocher. The facts are the facts. You can't run from them. If Republican states stopped paying federal taxes, Democrats would have to get jobs.