just one thing which makes me go RAGE: Steel doesnt need to melt to cause a catastrophic structural failure! steel loses half of its integrity when heated to just 600°C, FAR AWAY from its melting point. to bring a building to its collapse doesnt require the steel structure to melt.
oh and one thing, any explosive capable of severing steelbeams would be louder than C4 or RDX. and even blackpowder burns (explodes) at supersonic speed 900m/s infact just fyi.
@grindkerensky i hear you on ur rage. However, they completely ignored the national fire investigation procedures in this case. They test for exotic accelerants in house fires, but not here? The steel was taken away and destroyed, why? In the fire investigation manual it states, if motlen or melted steel or concrete is observed, it must be assumed that exotic accelerants have been used. This is standard procedure, yet not followed. It was like many things on 9/11, the first time it happened.
I don't and never will understand how anyone with a functioning brain can believe everything the government says about 911. The government has lied before 911 and they continue to lie. Has the government lied about Vietnam? Has the government lied about Iran-Contra? If you lied to me before, how can you expect me to believe you when you say that now you are telling the truth?
NIST will be hounded to the ends of the earth. Shyam Sunder won't be able to run anywhere without worrying about someone popping out of a bowl of rice to put a cap in his ass. These lying bastards will get what they have coming. So will the "debunkers". If it's ignorance the debunkers are claiming, it's understandable. Willful ignorance is unforgiveable.
ok buddy. your reaching. reaching so far i can see your hand in a hubble deep field pic. dumb ass mutha. fuckas....theres real issues in this worrld you could put your time to
You guys are really reaching...it wasn't fire you assholes. It was the jumbo jets full of fuel. So your right fire wouldn't do it...but obviously flying planes at 600 mph will
@rickythepitbull WTC 7 was not hit by a jumbo jet you ignorant asshole. It was on fire for no apparent reason. It caught fire at 9:30am according to the people who were in WTC 7 at the time.later it was struck with debris.
So I live in boston. We spent like 8 quadrazillion dollars on the big dig. Right after it was done a piece of the curling fell and killed a women...they said that there's never been another ceiling collapse like it........acording to you loons al queada must have done it......shit happens that's why wtc7 came down
@rickythepitbull Ricky:no one said "Shit Happens" when the big dig turned out badly. There was some effort to find out what went wrong and who did not build it properly. Not in the case of WTC7. Why not?
@nadoeloiskat Not like that it wasn't. This is real fucking life man, buildings (no, skyscrapers) do not collapse from minor damage like that. A busted roof? Sure. Complete collapse at free fall speed? Not in this universe.
@TheJamesrocket "Loose change", What really happened", Coincedences", Zeitgest" etc. have no credibility what so ever because these "undeniable proofs" are based on believe.
Yes there are gaps in the official statements but! look at the mess up what conspiracy theoriest created.
@nadoeloiskat I don't think that the gaps of the inside job theorists are nearly as big as that of the outside job group. And remember: 'Eliminate the impossible, and whatever remains, however improbable, is the truth.' The theory that NIST proposed is impossible. You and your brethren are defending a dead horse. Its time to give up and concede this.
@DeepSpace8andahalf You live in a bubble. I like "x-files" and "CSI" etc. too..
There were arabs living in the USA, planning terrorist attack and eventually succeed and CIA had no clue about it. Thats how powerful your country really is.
@DeepSpace8andahalf There was a crime, a terrible crime and there is the perpetrator. TERRORISM.
Truthers have to stop talking about bombs and building 7 (we all know your theories) and start to bring the true about who is REALLY behind this crime.
Like people, countries, organizations, dates when the plan was started, reason etc.
And like i said, When you ask this questions you'll a big mess and more questions.
@nadoeloiskat -- For the WTC bldgs 1, 2 & 7 to fall as rapidly as they did, ALL their steel supports would have had to be converted into licorice. Even if they were built of wood they'd have taken longer to fall. The molten metal pools underground at several hundred degrees F could NOT be caused by hydrocarbon fires. The abundance of iron micro-spheres in the WTC debris-dust, the tiny fragments of unreacted sol-gel with nano-thermite characteristics, the voluminous testimony re: explosions ...
@starmanskye Who did it? GWB? CIA? Jews? Russians? or meybe aliens?
P.S. When i ask this question from truthers, i get a HUGE mess. So it's like a faith.. like Jehovan witnesses or mormons, muslims etc.. No real evidence
@Skeptic121 So who did it? USA alone? Meybe with the Israel? UK? Russians? EU? CIA? MI6? FSB? Larry Silverstein? Donald Trump? (all of them and over 95% of the scientists/engineers like MIchio Kaku, Richards Dawkins, Neil Tyson etc. accept the afficial story). Russians warned before the invasion *do not go there* (Afganistan).
So who did it? who's behind? who's the perpertretor?
@nadoeloiskat Let me spell it out for you S L O W L Y
Many buildings are destroyed by arson. WTC7 was one of them. Many arsonists use flammable liquids. The arsonists who brought down WTC7 used "exotic" high temperature accelerants. In most arson investigations it is FIRST determined that arson occurred and only LATER determined who is guilty. Many arson cases are never solved. WTC7 was obvious arson but has not been solved.
Any questions? Know any languages better than English?
@nadoeloiskat I do not know who did it. I do know that WTC7 suffered a high-temperature arson attack, but I do not know who is guilty of that crime. In your country are there any unsolved crimes? In Sweden Prime Minister Olaf Palme was murdered. We still do not know for sure who did it, but we know he was murdered. No one says "You don't know who murdered Olaf Palme so you can't say he was murdered." The bullet fired into his body is evidence of murder but does not identify the murderer.
@nadoeloiskat So because a 911 sceptic admits to not being all knowing and having all the answers makes him not trustworthy? Its like saying Ill keep believing in the windgod because nobody can explain to me where wind comes from.
nano thermite is reality. And the situation is more complex: the concrete flooring is pulverized in mid air at a rate of 8-10 floors per second. That's over 35,000 ton per sec. Including ALL office contents. There are no concrete chunks, much less pancakes on the ground.. The smoke streaming out during collapse are concrete floors 12x60ft, pulverizing in mid air. How? It's more than nano-thermite,.... even if it was painted on both sides of the floors. what a day....
TheJamesrocket I'm no expert! If it's in gray and red in two overlaying layers than it had to be sprayed as a paint. My guess is you could do anything with it:: You made me think,If this stuff was in the WTC as a powder, sprayed thru the air system, it could explain somethings. I friend of mine with an interesting background suggested the plumbing could have been used, electrical system but he didn't mention air system. You blow that shit into the air and have it painted on, sequence timed...
@IExposeMormonism -- Another VERY interesting alternative for nano-thermite composite that would break-up the concrete is if the ceiling tiles of every 2nd or 3rd floor were made of them. The tiles would be within 2 feet or so of the concrete slabs above them. They'd be impervious to accidental ignition, taking an extreme high-pressure, high-temp micro-detonator or fire @ 2000 degrees F to ignite. Very curious, no sections of floor truss were observed in the debris.
@starmanskye What ever they did they did it well and had control of information flow, access to the WTC's, had access to sophisticated military weaponry. That sorta eliminates Muslim Troglodytes with rusty razor blades running amuk on hollow aluminum beer cans. In 3 years I just found a piece of concrete over 100lbs. It's approx 4ftx10ft and has some metal pan, too. Otherwise Everything is pebbles.
Jamesrocket This "friend of mine" wont look at the WTC! I'm not going into that...But in his background he had to witness experimental bombs. He saw a lot of bombs. The most impressive thing he said he saw, apparently better than Hiroshima, was a gasoline bomb. Plane sprays it out, like a chemtrail if you will. Then it is ignited X time later, not much. He said it consumed a cubic mile of air +/-, everything to the ground. Think about that. Expand on it in your mind. You're not Military...
@IExposeMormonism 'apparently better than Hiroshima, was a gasoline bomb.' What you are refering to is, in fact, a fuel air explosive. They actually are not even close to a nuclear explosion in power, but pack alot more force than conventional HE bombs.
And no, I'm not military, but much of the data on their weapons is wide open to the public. I know about alot of their inventory, but I was caught unaware of this liquid super thermite...
I wonder if all those incidents of people at the WTCs who got lung infections could have something to do with this? I know some people say that it was aspestos, but still, it makes one think. I wonder how many parts per million of this airborne nanothermite one would need to raise the temperatures inside to the point where it would help ensure the cutting of the steel support columns.
TheJamesrocket I think what impressed him was the way it consumed everything in it's path,oxygen, trees, etc., not that it was as deadly in effect for its size. How about this: Nano thermite is sprayed on with a 2 barrel offset gun, gray first, red on top. And nano thermite is dispersed through out the HVAC system! It's in the air when things go off. The one acre floors, 4,000tons each pulverize in 1/8-1/10 second. The streams of concrete floor are what comes off the walls we see. not smoke,
This video does not talk about what type of explosives could have been used, and doesn't fully address the unique aspects of the construction WTC 7, nor does it talk about the lessening of the fire codes and the lack of fireproofing in the building.
We can all agree that this was a covert gov job. The sad thing is that after you start peeling back the layers, you begin to see the coruption is well beyond just the towers. The people involved are in such high positions of gov or positions responsiblity that we'll never see any kind of justice simply because the judical system is a whore and it can be bought. I do know this though, peaceful protest is not and will not be the answer. History is proof of that.
What else can a liar do? The choices for them few,: deception, ignorance, or just plain old confusion, aka, computor models and complicated formulas using irrevelant data...G%
last count, 355 - 6,... twothers win. and there are 6 dumb asses,... lol,.. just proves some people can't go do their own research, or just plain lack common sense? maybe just scared to believe it?
A professor from Brigham Young University named Steven E. Jones ( A physics professor) explained why the fire itself couldnt bring down those buildings.
AlienScientist blocked my other account heafers84, whether you're a debunker, truther, or soomeone unsure of the events your comments shouldn't be blocked. This should be place of discussion, if you don't want people to comment then you should shutdown all commenting, but no you only choose to block those who disagree with you. I didn't call anyone any names or get rude or curse, but yet I was blocked.
AlienScientist doesn't want to know the truth, that's why he blocks anyone that doesn't agree with his thoughts. He's like a child that plugs his ears and goes lalalalala i can't hear you lalalalala. He deserves the life of ignorance, fear, and fear mongering that he follows. Peace
@heafers03 The reason you were blocked is posted on your channel.
"For anyone to deny that evidence exists when it does, is just retarded. I've seen this tactic used by pseudo-debunkers like yourself again and again. It won't work and it won't be tolerated."
Whether that's a good reason or not , you should probably understand that bold-faced lies are a bad way to start a conversation.
It's one thing to argue against evidence, it's another to pretend it isn't there.
If you look at the LHS of the building as it starts to go down you can just see the "puffs" of smoke from the demolition charges inside the building all the way down the sides. Any forensic study after the colapse can detect "nitro" from the explosive.
Pursuant to Section 7(d) of the National Construction Safety Team Act, I hereby find that the disclosure of the information described below, received by the National Institute of Standards and Technology ("NIST"), in connection with its investigation of the technical causes of the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11,2001, MIGHT JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC SAFETY. Therefore, NIST shall not release [this] information.
-- We should have a 9/11 TRUTHER's DAYy on Sept 11, 2011 in front of the White House, much like the tea party group did. This would tell the gov't that WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT!
If you need an expert on any science you have simply to go to a Video of 9/11 on Youtube and you will find hundreds if not thousands. And all the while the real culprits are laughing all the way to the next attack. I guess their greatest plan was not to disrupt the economy or to overthrow the Governments in their own countries, but it was to get us chasing wild geese.
Apathy rules OK !! Joe 'Sheeple' Public is more interested in football and cleavage that is force fed to him by the corporate media who are intent on herding the global populations toward a microchipped society where everyone's activities are monitored and accounted for. The events of 9/11 were the false flag catalyst which lit the fuse to the explosion of liberty infringements which have since occurred as a result. Many people say "There's nothing we can do about it"! That's the real crime fear
A building collapsing from fire is "a very rare event," he said...?? 3 times in one day in succession of each other. Why are we still building skyscrapers? Shouldn't we just demolish all the ones we have and limit all buildings to 5 floors? I wonder how many of the people in the US who believe the official government story live or work in high-rises? Do they REALLY believe it, deep down inside? I would rather risk loosing some sleep at night than voluntarily live in ignorance.
the structural model is showing interior beams warping, not exterior walls. the structural model seems to not be rendering the walls. There is no shot that shows the other sides of the building where you would be seeing these distortions, so saying the model doesn't match what's on the video doesn't really mean much. Sure it was an inside job but let's not dimiss science out of hand just based on a presumption of how things happened. That's not investigation.
I'm interested to see who you think caused the collapse and why. Also what bout the main WTC buildings, do you have a theory about them AlienScientist?
We are coming close to ten years to the day. When will the lies end and the truth start to surface. Its one thing to kill your own citizens but then to blame it on another culture. May you (the true terrorist of 9/11) burn in hell.
Take four aluminum ladders. Bolt them together forming a square. Lets say there are 30 steps. On top of the ladder you make a platform and put 200 lbs. on top of the ladder resting on the platform. Imagine 10 step below the platform the ladder get heated. It starts to bend. Does the whole ladder collapse?
I saw one video, showed the beams used in #7. these beams were some of the heaviest/strongest beams ever used in a N.Y.C. building ever? W.T.F.? made beams in other buildings look like tinker toy beams.
This isn't about Party or Bush Bashing. Its about our Country!
You owe it to your country to look into both sides of the 9/11 debate. There are many well researched videos, unlike Loose change. Good places to start
911 Connect the Dots is a great 18 min video @ watch?v=HfmliaqIRBE
Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically Proven and Self Verifiable. @ watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ
Science and Physics - 911 truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
Members of the 911 Commission said it was a cover up. They were not allowed to look at a large amount of the evidence, and they had higher ups choosing what evidence they could see or not. Also over 41 US counter terrorism veterans agree that it is a cover up and inside job.
Senator, Max Cleland openly complains about how he was barred from seeing much of the evidence used to make the official story. He is outraged. Source of his CNN interview is posted above.
* Undeniable - 100% Proof of Molten Steel and Explosives. @ watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU
Neither fires nor a collapse could create molten steel. Even NIST admitted that the temperatures needed to create molten metal and merge steel together - could not have happened due to the official explanation of the collapse
Debunkers skip what they cannot explain:
A straight forward video of NIST discussing this, and the irrefutable evidence of Molten Steel. I hope you actually check into both sides of the debate
This shows extreme similarities to the NIST report of a collaps front beginning on the left averted side of the building. Just take a look at the attachment on the roof disappearing 6 sec before the main building corpus caves in.
No Freefall speed collaps but the exact preditcted 12-14 sec. of a structural failure beginning on one point and then dragging the whole building down as the structural collaps progresses.
I wonder if some scrutiny is put on this?
And just an advice for the flamers comming down on me: at least try not to look like an idiot.
Bush is sitting at his getaway in Paraguay just like the nazi war criminals did after WW2 that fled. While these sheep point at obama "fall guy" forgetting Bush like he never existed? The media is backward programming thought process from the masses.
Remember when NIST stated the woman standing in the hole of the WTC plane impact "did not exist" and was an illusion" lol. They really insult our intelligence. Larry Silverstien is a criminal. NIST aids and covers up for mass murders.
When the crash landing into the world trade center happened i was sure they could have prevented it and shoot down the plane i am still sure they would normally have done it ... i don't have to take any other detail about that even into account to realize it's just weird.
But what do you want to do about whatever happened? Those who either plotted or allowed this to happen seem to be in a high and mighty position and i have to admit i don't see them getting even shaken a bit where they stand.
* 41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11: "a Cover-up," "Terribly Flawed," "Laced with Contradictions," "a Joke"
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Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
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* 84% of New Yorker's Reject the Official 9/11 Story - Saying there is a cover up.
In 2006 CBS and NY Times ran an extensive poll with these results.
This isn't about Party or Bush Bashing. Its about our Country!
You owe it to your country to look into both sides of the 9/11 debate. There are many well researched videos, unlike Loose change. Good places to start
911 Connect the Dots is a great 18 min video @ watch?v=HfmliaqIRBE
Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically Proven and Self Verifiable. @ watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ
Science and Physics - 911 truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
hey. i like what you say and all but the Nobel Prize winner thing should NOT BE a selling point for you. as we just witnessed, good ol kenyan barry just got one for doing nothing whatsoever!!!
o thanks for the great links, im always discussing these issues /w people but i cant ever "prove" it. To me all i had to do was watch the towers physically fall on that day and it was immediately obvious due to a lifetime of physics observation. I wonder why other people lack these simple understandings, did they never throw a ball around as a kid or something?
Unless your the solution, Your part of the problem Hitlers generals knew the truth and even many of them tried To stop him knowing the cost. But most of the military wore Kept blind or looked the other way more than 90 % of the German citizens wore behind Hitler making Rectifying the problem near impossible not so in
the USA Most of the military know what going on and are making sure That when enough grasp the truth and they know that chances of success or best thats when they will act
Its time to remove the elitists from this world their existence is far more deadly and perverted Than any weapon; their absolute disregard for human life will even destroy themselves and their families And the ones that support them are even more expendable.
Our really smart Military men Know this and are planning a preemptive strike to protect themselves, their families and USA Citizens.
i would sooner have believed NIST if they had said building 7 was infested with billions of metal worm that weakened it, tiny micro-organisms from the woodworm family, know in the trade as nano-termites.
There's more than enough scientific, logical and even audio-visual evidence against the official belief. The question is: what the fuck we gonna do about it?
Do you do your own experiment with the steal beam. glaze. it in karosine and whatever the government is saying lowered the steel's melting point. And make sure their is a lot of it. I mean a lot! Prove through experiment that whatever they said caused a single collum to fail let alone all of them at once is indeed a hoax. Videotape it and list all the data. Even have your own bonfire. roast marshmallows, jam with the guitar and just have fun in that step.
41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11: "Terribly Flawed," "Laced with Contradictions," "a Joke," "a Cover-up"
PatriotsQuestion911.(com) - Remove ()s to view link.
200+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
1000+ Engineers and Architects
250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
a) Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
b) Science and Physics - 911 Truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
This isn't about party or Bush Bashing. Its about our country:
You owe it to your country to look into both sides of the 9/11 debate. There are many well researched videos, unlike Loose change. Good places to start
911 Connect the Dots is a great 18 min video @ watch?v=HfmliaqIRBE
Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically Proven and self verifiable. @
watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ
Science and Physics - 911 truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
We also scientifically knows now that the entire fact is a gross nonsense.
Just try not to focus on the "nonsense", focus on "gross". How can the entire world keep silent toward a gross hoax? I mean, Apollo mission was way more sophisticated a hoax. ;-)
@Bi0hazardx "Evidence of activated and unactivated thermite incendiaries found in steel & dust samples" - I'd love to see the citation for this. In my research I never found any such evidence. Would be good to see some kind of actual proof of this.
@Bi0hazardx 1: The path of least resistance isn't applicable. A building will collapse through where gravity and the electromagnetic interaction places the debris.
2: A 500,000t building has too much inertia to collapse in any other fashion than straight down.
3: Both buildings exhibited signs of severe weakening throughout the time they burned.
4: If there's nothing on lower Manhattan that will explode if you torch it, drop 1 million tons of structure on it or stuff it full of dust then
I'll be damned. 100? There were thousands of people who responded, half of the FDNY. Roughly 5,500 firemen, plenty of more policemen, FEMA, FBI, CIA, PAPD, etc,etc,etc.
5: How much explosives would be required to do that?
6: How much explosives would be needed FOR THAT? There were no concrete load bearing elements so why did they blow up the concrete, and the structure was completely capable of wiping itself out once it started moving. The floor system was designed to handle 1,300t and the
@razorback497 Hypothetical situation: You have a 100 story building. The top 10th of the building (10 floors) collapse onto the building beneath it. The energy it takes for the falling 10 floors to crush the 10 floors beneath it would also destroy the falling section. It's called newtons third law of motion.
@razorback497 "The mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear. This means that whenever a first body exerts a force F on a second body, the second body exerts a force −F on the first body. F and −F are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction." Newtons Third Law.
1) Can any of the debunkers please explain the mechanism in which the lower floors of WTC 7 were removed in fractions of a second prior to the upper floors hitting resistance? Especially when all of the potential energy of the building was already turned into kinetic energy to achieve the free fall acceleration admitted by NIST. Thus, leaving no energy from the falling building to cause any damage to the building below, which again did not provide any resistance as the building fell at free-fall
@Bi0hazardx I dont claim to be an expert in demolition or physics, but it seems to me if you watch starting :15 the top collapses for a full 10 secs before the shell does.
Uh.. 10 seconds before? Thanks again for showing everyone how ignorant you are on the subject.
The complete collapse time according NIST's Final report on WTC 7 is 5.6 Second in total. So your face value claim of watching something with your eyes without using a video physics tool, is an extra 10 seconds on top of the 5.4 which was the whole collapse?
Secondly the rate of acceleration was 9.8m/s2 (freefall). This shows the forces acting at a given moment.
Even if the building stalled for 10 seconds, when even NIST admits it was only 5.4 seconds in total - that does not neglect the fact that the rate of acceleration of the building was still free-fall during the fall.
Which still leaves my question you never answered. Defend the official story that defies physics. How can you have a collapse that requires compression on the way down when it fell at freefall without any resistance of the falling building - or infrastructure holding it up?
2) In order to back up the official story of the WTC7 collapse:
Debunkers would have to explain how a collapse that required compression between floors and thus resistance could take place in free-fall acceleration.
If debunkers want to have any grounds to stand on, in critiquing those who challenge the official story.
They need to show that the official story itself is SOUND, in order to debunk those who question it.
Debunkers skip this step on the questions they cannot answer.
3) There is only one way to destroy the lower resistance while at the same time achieving free-fall without the energy from the falling building. This is to remove the floors just holding up the building in fractions of seconds with controlled demolition. There is no other way.
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically proven and self verifiable.
@ 1:50 is a perfect example of compartmentalisation in action, time & time again this modality of the restriction & flow of Information serves as a divisive tool that can be used to manipulate masses of seemingly intelligent "cerebral" individuals without them even consciously being aware of their own participation to an agenda by subtle suggestive manipulation.
The truth is difficult mostly in scientific empirical processes but here one needs only use instinct first & a "sceptical" open mind.
41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11: "Terribly Flawed," "Laced with Contradictions," "a Joke," "a Cover-up"
patriotsquestion911.(com) - Remove ()s to view link.
200+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
1000+ Engineers and Architects
250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
a) Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
b) Science and Physics - 911 Truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
You owe it to your country to look into both sides of the 9/11 debate. There are many well researched videos, aside from the poorly done ones that turn people off like Loose change. Here are good places to start
Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically Proven and self verifiable. @
watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ
Science and Physics - 911 truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
Thanks for all your persistence and for posting this info. It is incredibly important that these people all be held accountable. Hold on tight because this is a war. The power elite can't hide in the shadows anymore, but they will not give up a 3000% profit easily. War, drugs, slavery all these things make huge profit. We need to focus on impeaching the supreme court, while these clowns remain the laws will bend favorably for the elite. We need to restore the law of the land to integrity.
This is evidence of deliberate scientific fraud on behalf of NIST... Shyam Sundar and John Gross should have their degrees revoked and be arrested and charged with conspiracy.
I will always suspect government involvement in 911 why? Well, has government ever told the truth? The economic collapse of 08 they were warned by multiple people denied a problem, lied about weapons of mass destruction, Lied about Iran Contras and arms for drugs, Lied Tonkan Bay the start Vietnam war, it never stops. Our congress and senate are puppets and wards of banking wall street gangs that instigate world turmoil for profit. The next wars are being planned now our kids will serve and die.
You show you ignorance of the video you are posting on. WTC 7 was never hit by a plane, it fell at Free-fall hours later that day - WTC 1 and 2 were hit by planes. 2 planes - 3 buildings all with explosives residue.
All 3 WTC building sites had residue of activated and unactivated nanothermite - a high grade US military demolition accelerant.
It's the smoking gun. And your post didn't have any context, just stupid arrogant and ignorant rambling.
The comments and debate on this forum is proof of why we need a REAL investigation...
watch?v=79o9fFwTStc
NIST did NOT look for accelerants such as nanothermite... If they did, they would have found the evidence that has been peer reviewed in an article by Neils Harret...
@AlienScientist that's because the idea that nanothermite was in the towers is completely made up. Never been found. Plus Jones thinks that if it was used it would be for fuses for modern explosives. You've got to be kidding me. It's like he's testing your gullability
Made up? No the idea that Fire symmetrically demolished 3 skyscrapers in one day is made up... For one, it's never happened before or since.
The evidence for thermite comes from careful investigations into the evidence from 9/11. All the evidence points to thermite. I'm not being gullible, I'm being rationale and scientific, unlike the morons who believe that office fires could have done this kind of damage. Nothing aside from thermite, can explain the temperatures and molten iron.
@AlienScientist "Made up" Yes. Their paper is crap, they performed an XED, which only tells us that Fe, Al, O, and other ele. made up the compound, do you know how many compounds can be found with the elements found, not including contamination? Since it was two sided and one side was a binder first brilliant thought should be paint, which has all the elements the chips do, hm i might be on to something. Also, not one keV matched thermite, and energy content is above theoretical max of thermite
@heafers03 "Also, not one keV matched thermite, and energy content is above theoretical max of thermite"
Energy release rates were matched against nano-thermite, total energy release of both is similar to that of commercially available thermite or thermate.
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Frankly it's horribly dishonest of you to say it's "made up" when you already know the exact study that documents the findings.
Not to mention molten iron flows and debris and eutectic formations documented by FEMA...
You obviously have a limited scope of history. The US has been open about previous uses of false flag terrorism. Creating an event themselves in order to manufacture support for geopolitical courses that the people do not currently support. It happened in the Spanish - American war 1898 The sinking of the Maine. The prior knowledge of Pearl Harbor and using the event to enter the war. and more.
The US has killed more US citizens in the illegal Iraq war than @ 9/11 - you have no point.
@DoYouCareAboutTruth So your argument is: a 911 conspiracy could be true because conspiracy theories have existed in the past? nonsense.
Also to compare the ease of sinking your own ship out of sight of anyone during the late 1800s to a 911 inside job involving multiple targets in plain sight of everyone during the information age is rediculous.
" A Remember the Maine incident could be arranged: We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.
(2) Land friendly Cubans in uniform over-the-fence to stage attack on base.
(4) Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans).
(6) Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).
(11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims."
"We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.
It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday."
Google Operation Northwoods -Its declassified proof of other attempts at false flag citizen murder. It was signed off on by the Joint Chief of Staff under McNamara. George Washington University hosts the declassified doc. It's the 6th result in Google. They discuss killing college students on a charter plane around Cuba, in order to blame it on Cuba. They discuss the US military creating Terror campaigns in Washington and Florida. They said the more deaths the more support.
This is why many policies and geopolitical goals are directed towards the goals of the lobbying sector and international class. The nation states realize they are dependent on the international sector (first off) to build and move their goods and capital through their areas, and bring jobs and profit.
This is why NAFTA, CAFTA are behind closed door policy meetings run by corporations. Nafta's law's overrule the law of US, Mexico, and Canada as far as trade. Their courts usurp the supreme court
@Bi0hazardx Wrong. Once again, I was responding to someone who does believe 911 was carried out by ruling elite, so your original statement "you would think that everything is controlled and carried out "directly" by a handful of elites" is wrong, how are you not understanding this?
Of course I believe corruption exists, I never said it didn't. If you believe 911 was an inside job I will gladly debate you, but if your argument is that corruption exists then we agree.
I think we actually agree on more than you would think. Yes there is a globalist movement, it is influenced by what I talked about. The fed and fractional reserve dilute the value of money - and hurt the buying power and exchange rates of currency. They need a single world currency in order to remove all exchange rates; which is the only thing showing the diluting value of creating money out of nothing. Once there is a single currency they can sweep under the rug all the devalue.
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Yes,,Debunk this,,Sundar,,in fact go back to whatever 3rd World country You came from, and investigate Cave and Camel fires!!!!!
roadrunnermike 5 months ago
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EvilIntentions01 6 months ago
Shame Sunder
bernuga 6 months ago
if the steel was weakened by the fires on 911 how come the concrete be polverised as well.truth
nb45001 7 months ago
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nb45001 7 months ago
just one thing which makes me go RAGE: Steel doesnt need to melt to cause a catastrophic structural failure! steel loses half of its integrity when heated to just 600°C, FAR AWAY from its melting point. to bring a building to its collapse doesnt require the steel structure to melt.
oh and one thing, any explosive capable of severing steelbeams would be louder than C4 or RDX. and even blackpowder burns (explodes) at supersonic speed 900m/s infact just fyi.
grindkerensky 8 months ago
@grindkerensky i hear you on ur rage. However, they completely ignored the national fire investigation procedures in this case. They test for exotic accelerants in house fires, but not here? The steel was taken away and destroyed, why? In the fire investigation manual it states, if motlen or melted steel or concrete is observed, it must be assumed that exotic accelerants have been used. This is standard procedure, yet not followed. It was like many things on 9/11, the first time it happened.
dominic150 4 months ago
I don't and never will understand how anyone with a functioning brain can believe everything the government says about 911. The government has lied before 911 and they continue to lie. Has the government lied about Vietnam? Has the government lied about Iran-Contra? If you lied to me before, how can you expect me to believe you when you say that now you are telling the truth?
Daddyo930 8 months ago
NIST will be hounded to the ends of the earth. Shyam Sunder won't be able to run anywhere without worrying about someone popping out of a bowl of rice to put a cap in his ass. These lying bastards will get what they have coming. So will the "debunkers". If it's ignorance the debunkers are claiming, it's understandable. Willful ignorance is unforgiveable.
Daddyo930 8 months ago
ok buddy. your reaching. reaching so far i can see your hand in a hubble deep field pic. dumb ass mutha. fuckas....theres real issues in this worrld you could put your time to
rickythepitbull 11 months ago
Even more important for evaluating NIST:
We Have the Results and Only We Have the Results (15 minutes)
watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
iBlindGame 1 year ago
And I don't wanna hear crap about how a pilot couldn't do it. Cuz I watched two pilots do it on 911..
rickythepitbull 1 year ago
You guys are really reaching...it wasn't fire you assholes. It was the jumbo jets full of fuel. So your right fire wouldn't do it...but obviously flying planes at 600 mph will
rickythepitbull 1 year ago
@rickythepitbull WTC 7 was not hit by a jumbo jet you ignorant asshole. It was on fire for no apparent reason. It caught fire at 9:30am according to the people who were in WTC 7 at the time.later it was struck with debris.
timrocket2008 11 months ago
@rickythepitbull So you're refuting NIST too then? Good. Welcome aboard.
Ahlywog 11 months ago
So I live in boston. We spent like 8 quadrazillion dollars on the big dig. Right after it was done a piece of the curling fell and killed a women...they said that there's never been another ceiling collapse like it........acording to you loons al queada must have done it......shit happens that's why wtc7 came down
rickythepitbull 1 year ago
@rickythepitbull Ricky:no one said "Shit Happens" when the big dig turned out badly. There was some effort to find out what went wrong and who did not build it properly. Not in the case of WTC7. Why not?
Skeptic121 9 months ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf Official story: WTC 7 collapsed because of damage and fire.
nadoeloiskat 1 year ago
@nadoeloiskat that explains the molten steel huh, moron.
kensei85 1 year ago
@nadoeloiskat Not like that it wasn't. This is real fucking life man, buildings (no, skyscrapers) do not collapse from minor damage like that. A busted roof? Sure. Complete collapse at free fall speed? Not in this universe.
TheJamesrocket 1 year ago
@TheJamesrocket "Loose change", What really happened", Coincedences", Zeitgest" etc. have no credibility what so ever because these "undeniable proofs" are based on believe.
Yes there are gaps in the official statements but! look at the mess up what conspiracy theoriest created.
nadoeloiskat 1 year ago
@nadoeloiskat I don't think that the gaps of the inside job theorists are nearly as big as that of the outside job group. And remember: 'Eliminate the impossible, and whatever remains, however improbable, is the truth.' The theory that NIST proposed is impossible. You and your brethren are defending a dead horse. Its time to give up and concede this.
TheJamesrocket 1 year ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf You live in a bubble. I like "x-files" and "CSI" etc. too..
There were arabs living in the USA, planning terrorist attack and eventually succeed and CIA had no clue about it. Thats how powerful your country really is.
Stop living in Hollywood.
nadoeloiskat 1 year ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf There was a crime, a terrible crime and there is the perpetrator. TERRORISM.
Truthers have to stop talking about bombs and building 7 (we all know your theories) and start to bring the true about who is REALLY behind this crime.
Like people, countries, organizations, dates when the plan was started, reason etc.
And like i said, When you ask this questions you'll a big mess and more questions.
nadoeloiskat 1 year ago
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So it wasnt the fire.Fine. Now proof that it was nano thermite or bombs.
Best way to win a troofer is ask him who did it.
nadoeloiskat 1 year ago
@nadoeloiskat,
Please read the article by Kevin Ryan call "Demolition Access to the WTC Towers", it is a very extensive 4 part paper complete with sources.
AlienScientist 1 year ago 7
@nadoeloiskat -- For the WTC bldgs 1, 2 & 7 to fall as rapidly as they did, ALL their steel supports would have had to be converted into licorice. Even if they were built of wood they'd have taken longer to fall. The molten metal pools underground at several hundred degrees F could NOT be caused by hydrocarbon fires. The abundance of iron micro-spheres in the WTC debris-dust, the tiny fragments of unreacted sol-gel with nano-thermite characteristics, the voluminous testimony re: explosions ...
starmanskye 1 year ago
@starmanskye Who did it? GWB? CIA? Jews? Russians? or meybe aliens?
P.S. When i ask this question from truthers, i get a HUGE mess. So it's like a faith.. like Jehovan witnesses or mormons, muslims etc.. No real evidence
nadoeloiskat 1 year ago
@nadoeloiskat "Best way to win a troofer is ask him who did it."
OK, you just won a troofer. Where do you want him delivered?
Seriously, your logic, like your English, is worthy of a little child. One can certainly know a fire was arson without knowing who set it.
Skeptic121 9 months ago
@Skeptic121 So who did it? USA alone? Meybe with the Israel? UK? Russians? EU? CIA? MI6? FSB? Larry Silverstein? Donald Trump? (all of them and over 95% of the scientists/engineers like MIchio Kaku, Richards Dawkins, Neil Tyson etc. accept the afficial story). Russians warned before the invasion *do not go there* (Afganistan).
So who did it? who's behind? who's the perpertretor?
Aliens?
nadoeloiskat 9 months ago
@Skeptic121 BTW my English suck but your logic is mentally challenged and your "truth" is a seriously retarded.
By asking troofer who really did it, you do win a troofer award with the tinfoil hat.
nadoeloiskat 9 months ago
@nadoeloiskat Let me spell it out for you S L O W L Y
Many buildings are destroyed by arson. WTC7 was one of them. Many arsonists use flammable liquids. The arsonists who brought down WTC7 used "exotic" high temperature accelerants. In most arson investigations it is FIRST determined that arson occurred and only LATER determined who is guilty. Many arson cases are never solved. WTC7 was obvious arson but has not been solved.
Any questions? Know any languages better than English?
Skeptic121 9 months ago
@Skeptic121 Any questions?
Here's one: who did it?
nadoeloiskat 9 months ago
@nadoeloiskat I do not know who did it. I do know that WTC7 suffered a high-temperature arson attack, but I do not know who is guilty of that crime. In your country are there any unsolved crimes? In Sweden Prime Minister Olaf Palme was murdered. We still do not know for sure who did it, but we know he was murdered. No one says "You don't know who murdered Olaf Palme so you can't say he was murdered." The bullet fired into his body is evidence of murder but does not identify the murderer.
Skeptic121 9 months ago
@nadoeloiskat It was A nuclear detonation set off by the Port Authority.
WAKE UP!!
cheerdiver 8 months ago
@nadoeloiskat idiot
drewsiboberinski 7 months ago
@nadoeloiskat So because a 911 sceptic admits to not being all knowing and having all the answers makes him not trustworthy? Its like saying Ill keep believing in the windgod because nobody can explain to me where wind comes from.
cassius969 5 months ago
nano thermite is reality. And the situation is more complex: the concrete flooring is pulverized in mid air at a rate of 8-10 floors per second. That's over 35,000 ton per sec. Including ALL office contents. There are no concrete chunks, much less pancakes on the ground.. The smoke streaming out during collapse are concrete floors 12x60ft, pulverizing in mid air. How? It's more than nano-thermite,.... even if it was painted on both sides of the floors. what a day....
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
@IExposeMormonism Wait, are you saying that thermite can be deployed as a spray, and not in a big canister?
TheJamesrocket 1 year ago
TheJamesrocket I'm no expert! If it's in gray and red in two overlaying layers than it had to be sprayed as a paint. My guess is you could do anything with it:: You made me think,If this stuff was in the WTC as a powder, sprayed thru the air system, it could explain somethings. I friend of mine with an interesting background suggested the plumbing could have been used, electrical system but he didn't mention air system. You blow that shit into the air and have it painted on, sequence timed...
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
@IExposeMormonism -- Another VERY interesting alternative for nano-thermite composite that would break-up the concrete is if the ceiling tiles of every 2nd or 3rd floor were made of them. The tiles would be within 2 feet or so of the concrete slabs above them. They'd be impervious to accidental ignition, taking an extreme high-pressure, high-temp micro-detonator or fire @ 2000 degrees F to ignite. Very curious, no sections of floor truss were observed in the debris.
starmanskye 1 year ago
@starmanskye What ever they did they did it well and had control of information flow, access to the WTC's, had access to sophisticated military weaponry. That sorta eliminates Muslim Troglodytes with rusty razor blades running amuk on hollow aluminum beer cans. In 3 years I just found a piece of concrete over 100lbs. It's approx 4ftx10ft and has some metal pan, too. Otherwise Everything is pebbles.
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
Jamesrocket This "friend of mine" wont look at the WTC! I'm not going into that...But in his background he had to witness experimental bombs. He saw a lot of bombs. The most impressive thing he said he saw, apparently better than Hiroshima, was a gasoline bomb. Plane sprays it out, like a chemtrail if you will. Then it is ignited X time later, not much. He said it consumed a cubic mile of air +/-, everything to the ground. Think about that. Expand on it in your mind. You're not Military...
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
@IExposeMormonism 'apparently better than Hiroshima, was a gasoline bomb.' What you are refering to is, in fact, a fuel air explosive. They actually are not even close to a nuclear explosion in power, but pack alot more force than conventional HE bombs.
And no, I'm not military, but much of the data on their weapons is wide open to the public. I know about alot of their inventory, but I was caught unaware of this liquid super thermite...
TheJamesrocket 1 year ago
I wonder if all those incidents of people at the WTCs who got lung infections could have something to do with this? I know some people say that it was aspestos, but still, it makes one think. I wonder how many parts per million of this airborne nanothermite one would need to raise the temperatures inside to the point where it would help ensure the cutting of the steel support columns.
TheJamesrocket 1 year ago
TheJamesrocket I think what impressed him was the way it consumed everything in it's path,oxygen, trees, etc., not that it was as deadly in effect for its size. How about this: Nano thermite is sprayed on with a 2 barrel offset gun, gray first, red on top. And nano thermite is dispersed through out the HVAC system! It's in the air when things go off. The one acre floors, 4,000tons each pulverize in 1/8-1/10 second. The streams of concrete floor are what comes off the walls we see. not smoke,
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
This video does not talk about what type of explosives could have been used, and doesn't fully address the unique aspects of the construction WTC 7, nor does it talk about the lessening of the fire codes and the lack of fireproofing in the building.
GregWn 1 year ago
We can all agree that this was a covert gov job. The sad thing is that after you start peeling back the layers, you begin to see the coruption is well beyond just the towers. The people involved are in such high positions of gov or positions responsiblity that we'll never see any kind of justice simply because the judical system is a whore and it can be bought. I do know this though, peaceful protest is not and will not be the answer. History is proof of that.
yjllsapath 1 year ago
What else can a liar do? The choices for them few,: deception, ignorance, or just plain old confusion, aka, computor models and complicated formulas using irrevelant data...G%
wordgeezer 1 year ago
You will be stupit to believe this happen, you will be stupid to believe this didnt happen. When you live in a money world anything is possible.
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cadentavaricegrtrj 1 year ago
Good stuff , picked up some more facts. Thanks for your video.
usd25674 1 year ago
last count, 355 - 6,... twothers win. and there are 6 dumb asses,... lol,.. just proves some people can't go do their own research, or just plain lack common sense? maybe just scared to believe it?
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 1 year ago
A professor from Brigham Young University named Steven E. Jones ( A physics professor) explained why the fire itself couldnt bring down those buildings.
elitechrstn 1 year ago 4
AlienScientist blocked my other account heafers84, whether you're a debunker, truther, or soomeone unsure of the events your comments shouldn't be blocked. This should be place of discussion, if you don't want people to comment then you should shutdown all commenting, but no you only choose to block those who disagree with you. I didn't call anyone any names or get rude or curse, but yet I was blocked.
heafers03 1 year ago
AlienScientist doesn't want to know the truth, that's why he blocks anyone that doesn't agree with his thoughts. He's like a child that plugs his ears and goes lalalalala i can't hear you lalalalala. He deserves the life of ignorance, fear, and fear mongering that he follows. Peace
heafers03 1 year ago
@heafers03 The reason you were blocked is posted on your channel.
"For anyone to deny that evidence exists when it does, is just retarded. I've seen this tactic used by pseudo-debunkers like yourself again and again. It won't work and it won't be tolerated."
Whether that's a good reason or not , you should probably understand that bold-faced lies are a bad way to start a conversation.
It's one thing to argue against evidence, it's another to pretend it isn't there.
SexyMelon 1 year ago 2
If you look at the LHS of the building as it starts to go down you can just see the "puffs" of smoke from the demolition charges inside the building all the way down the sides. Any forensic study after the colapse can detect "nitro" from the explosive.
supatipanno 1 year ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf, It will once I put it all out on DVD and you can get it played on local public access in your own home town...
Feel free to take the video and do it yourself if you don't want to wait for me...
I'm just going to burn all my 9/11 videos to a dvd in an appropriate order.
AlienScientist 1 year ago 6
@AlienScientist
Alienscientist.... Thanks...
Tubewaytorpedo 5 months ago
Pursuant to Section 7(d) of the National Construction Safety Team Act, I hereby find that the disclosure of the information described below, received by the National Institute of Standards and Technology ("NIST"), in connection with its investigation of the technical causes of the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11,2001, MIGHT JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC SAFETY. Therefore, NIST shall not release [this] information.
This was in 2009. Nuff said!!!
kkkaldav 1 year ago
-- We should have a 9/11 TRUTHER's DAYy on Sept 11, 2011 in front of the White House, much like the tea party group did. This would tell the gov't that WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT!
MikeSPx24bj9 1 year ago
If you need an expert on any science you have simply to go to a Video of 9/11 on Youtube and you will find hundreds if not thousands. And all the while the real culprits are laughing all the way to the next attack. I guess their greatest plan was not to disrupt the economy or to overthrow the Governments in their own countries, but it was to get us chasing wild geese.
Sixalienasa 1 year ago
They should have gave the 3 mill dollars to me.
At least I have some idea of the truth and wont come up with a collapse video that bears no resemblance whatsoever to the observed reality.
zenoist2 1 year ago
Apathy rules OK !! Joe 'Sheeple' Public is more interested in football and cleavage that is force fed to him by the corporate media who are intent on herding the global populations toward a microchipped society where everyone's activities are monitored and accounted for. The events of 9/11 were the false flag catalyst which lit the fuse to the explosion of liberty infringements which have since occurred as a result. Many people say "There's nothing we can do about it"! That's the real crime fear
ibrowze 1 year ago
A building collapsing from fire is "a very rare event," he said...?? 3 times in one day in succession of each other. Why are we still building skyscrapers? Shouldn't we just demolish all the ones we have and limit all buildings to 5 floors? I wonder how many of the people in the US who believe the official government story live or work in high-rises? Do they REALLY believe it, deep down inside? I would rather risk loosing some sleep at night than voluntarily live in ignorance.
defexorcist 1 year ago
the structural model is showing interior beams warping, not exterior walls. the structural model seems to not be rendering the walls. There is no shot that shows the other sides of the building where you would be seeing these distortions, so saying the model doesn't match what's on the video doesn't really mean much. Sure it was an inside job but let's not dimiss science out of hand just based on a presumption of how things happened. That's not investigation.
HeavyMechanics 1 year ago
ALL AMERICANS SUD C THIS!
sonicbouy 1 year ago
I'm interested to see who you think caused the collapse and why. Also what bout the main WTC buildings, do you have a theory about them AlienScientist?
Renegade30 1 year ago
We are coming close to ten years to the day. When will the lies end and the truth start to surface. Its one thing to kill your own citizens but then to blame it on another culture. May you (the true terrorist of 9/11) burn in hell.
nuggz503 1 year ago
Take four aluminum ladders. Bolt them together forming a square. Lets say there are 30 steps. On top of the ladder you make a platform and put 200 lbs. on top of the ladder resting on the platform. Imagine 10 step below the platform the ladder get heated. It starts to bend. Does the whole ladder collapse?
MyFartsRock 1 year ago
I saw one video, showed the beams used in #7. these beams were some of the heaviest/strongest beams ever used in a N.Y.C. building ever? W.T.F.? made beams in other buildings look like tinker toy beams.
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 1 year ago
This isn't about Party or Bush Bashing. Its about our Country!
You owe it to your country to look into both sides of the 9/11 debate. There are many well researched videos, unlike Loose change. Good places to start
911 Connect the Dots is a great 18 min video @ watch?v=HfmliaqIRBE
Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically Proven and Self Verifiable. @ watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ
Science and Physics - 911 truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
DoYouCareAboutTruth 1 year ago
SOURCE: watch?v=LWE58Z5evgw
Members of the 911 Commission said it was a cover up. They were not allowed to look at a large amount of the evidence, and they had higher ups choosing what evidence they could see or not. Also over 41 US counter terrorism veterans agree that it is a cover up and inside job.
Senator, Max Cleland openly complains about how he was barred from seeing much of the evidence used to make the official story. He is outraged. Source of his CNN interview is posted above.
DoYouCareAboutTruth 1 year ago
* Undeniable - 100% Proof of Molten Steel and Explosives. @ watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU
Neither fires nor a collapse could create molten steel. Even NIST admitted that the temperatures needed to create molten metal and merge steel together - could not have happened due to the official explanation of the collapse
Debunkers skip what they cannot explain:
A straight forward video of NIST discussing this, and the irrefutable evidence of Molten Steel. I hope you actually check into both sides of the debate
DoYouCareAboutTruth 1 year ago
Well so you stick to the free fall claim?
0PsycoDad0 1 year ago
0:17-0:27
Err has anyone looked at the vid?
This shows extreme similarities to the NIST report of a collaps front beginning on the left averted side of the building. Just take a look at the attachment on the roof disappearing 6 sec before the main building corpus caves in.
0PsycoDad0 1 year ago
No Freefall speed collaps but the exact preditcted 12-14 sec. of a structural failure beginning on one point and then dragging the whole building down as the structural collaps progresses.
I wonder if some scrutiny is put on this?
And just an advice for the flamers comming down on me: at least try not to look like an idiot.
0PsycoDad0 1 year ago
Bush is sitting at his getaway in Paraguay just like the nazi war criminals did after WW2 that fled. While these sheep point at obama "fall guy" forgetting Bush like he never existed? The media is backward programming thought process from the masses.
thetruthproject2012 1 year ago
NIST is lying.
9/11 was an inside job...Bush knew about this before it happened...our government is totally out of control and thoroughly corrupt to the core!
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 1 year ago 2
911 was an inside job
thetruthproject2012 1 year ago 3
Remember when NIST stated the woman standing in the hole of the WTC plane impact "did not exist" and was an illusion" lol. They really insult our intelligence. Larry Silverstien is a criminal. NIST aids and covers up for mass murders.
thetruthproject2012 1 year ago
The NIST is a government agency. They are lazy and incompetent, not part of a massive conspiracy.
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hermesake 1 year ago
When the crash landing into the world trade center happened i was sure they could have prevented it and shoot down the plane i am still sure they would normally have done it ... i don't have to take any other detail about that even into account to realize it's just weird.
But what do you want to do about whatever happened? Those who either plotted or allowed this to happen seem to be in a high and mighty position and i have to admit i don't see them getting even shaken a bit where they stand.
Peralisc 1 year ago
lol little nigger scientist
wikipediafornoobs 1 year ago
correction he is a sand nigca
JvillnEnt 1 year ago
NIST
National Institute Stupid Technology
Again lies are used to silence the
Concerned USA Citizens. NO longer can we Allow this to happen even under the threat of Execution.
futurehelp 1 year ago
They shall no longer be called the elite but their real name now is the parasitic pathogens
futurehelp 1 year ago
Agreed, those elite parasites are screwing up our planet and our chances at peace ?
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 1 year ago
* 41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11: "a Cover-up," "Terribly Flawed," "Laced with Contradictions," "a Joke"
PatriotsQuestion911.(com) - Remove ()s to view link.
Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
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* 84% of New Yorker's Reject the Official 9/11 Story - Saying there is a cover up.
In 2006 CBS and NY Times ran an extensive poll with these results.
Tinyurl(dot)com/yek5c5s
DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago
This isn't about Party or Bush Bashing. Its about our Country!
You owe it to your country to look into both sides of the 9/11 debate. There are many well researched videos, unlike Loose change. Good places to start
911 Connect the Dots is a great 18 min video @ watch?v=HfmliaqIRBE
Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically Proven and Self Verifiable. @ watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ
Science and Physics - 911 truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago
hey. i like what you say and all but the Nobel Prize winner thing should NOT BE a selling point for you. as we just witnessed, good ol kenyan barry just got one for doing nothing whatsoever!!!
zmc33 2 years ago
um. obama. has one of those things. if i were to receive one now i would use it for fire wood.
lwanatt 2 years ago
o thanks for the great links, im always discussing these issues /w people but i cant ever "prove" it. To me all i had to do was watch the towers physically fall on that day and it was immediately obvious due to a lifetime of physics observation. I wonder why other people lack these simple understandings, did they never throw a ball around as a kid or something?
lwanatt 2 years ago
the poor people... so brainwashed & dumded down.. that they can look at an impossible, and believe that its true & real ! that it happened !
spellgrounds 2 years ago
Unless your the solution, Your part of the problem Hitlers generals knew the truth and even many of them tried To stop him knowing the cost. But most of the military wore Kept blind or looked the other way more than 90 % of the German citizens wore behind Hitler making Rectifying the problem near impossible not so in
the USA Most of the military know what going on and are making sure That when enough grasp the truth and they know that chances of success or best thats when they will act
futurehelp 2 years ago
Its time to remove the elitists from this world their existence is far more deadly and perverted Than any weapon; their absolute disregard for human life will even destroy themselves and their families And the ones that support them are even more expendable.
Our really smart Military men Know this and are planning a preemptive strike to protect themselves, their families and USA Citizens.
futurehelp 2 years ago
5 stars great work
majesticteam12 2 years ago
At 07:19 it's funny to imagine human beside reptilian ...
LoL ;-)
reachthelight 2 years ago
I'm always proud to share your work ...
AlienScientist , chapeau .
reachthelight 2 years ago
i would sooner have believed NIST if they had said building 7 was infested with billions of metal worm that weakened it, tiny micro-organisms from the woodworm family, know in the trade as nano-termites.
fire? thats another good one!
chunkyboy100 2 years ago 2
It is amazing to me that there are people who have invested so much into the official story, they actually think NIST is telling the truth.
Drumvain 2 years ago
There's more than enough scientific, logical and even audio-visual evidence against the official belief. The question is: what the fuck we gonna do about it?
OK2BCK 2 years ago 2
buy silver....and don't tell people!
zmc33 2 years ago
I agree SILVER prices will surge to
$ 350.00 and in a few years $ 3,500.00 we have to recycle more than %90 of our silver because we are allmost out of silver ore. Buy Silver!
futurehelp 2 years ago
Do you do your own experiment with the steal beam. glaze. it in karosine and whatever the government is saying lowered the steel's melting point. And make sure their is a lot of it. I mean a lot! Prove through experiment that whatever they said caused a single collum to fail let alone all of them at once is indeed a hoax. Videotape it and list all the data. Even have your own bonfire. roast marshmallows, jam with the guitar and just have fun in that step.
GravWave 2 years ago
That's been done, by underwriters laboratories if I am not mistaken. The official theory was falsified by that test.
DarkwingScooter 2 years ago
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DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago
This isn't about party or Bush Bashing. Its about our country:
You owe it to your country to look into both sides of the 9/11 debate. There are many well researched videos, unlike Loose change. Good places to start
911 Connect the Dots is a great 18 min video @ watch?v=HfmliaqIRBE
Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically Proven and self verifiable. @
watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ
Science and Physics - 911 truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago 3
The WTC exhibited the following characteristics of destruction by Explosives:
1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution
3. Extremely rapid onset of destruction
4. Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes
5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 60 mph
6. Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago 16
7. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds
8. 1200-foot-dia. debris field: no "pancaked" floors found
9. Isolated explosive ejections 20 40 stories below demolition front
10. Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame
11. Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises
12. Evidence of activated and unactivated thermite incendiaries found in steel & dust samples: The Smoking Gun.
13. FEMA steel analysis: sulfidation, oxidation & intergranular melting
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago 19
So we scientifically know the truth.
We also scientifically knows now that the entire fact is a gross nonsense.
Just try not to focus on the "nonsense", focus on "gross". How can the entire world keep silent toward a gross hoax? I mean, Apollo mission was way more sophisticated a hoax. ;-)
fabbio8888 2 years ago
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@Bi0hazardx "Evidence of activated and unactivated thermite incendiaries found in steel & dust samples" - I'd love to see the citation for this. In my research I never found any such evidence. Would be good to see some kind of actual proof of this.
HeavyMechanics 1 year ago
@Bi0hazardx 1: The path of least resistance isn't applicable. A building will collapse through where gravity and the electromagnetic interaction places the debris.
2: A 500,000t building has too much inertia to collapse in any other fashion than straight down.
3: Both buildings exhibited signs of severe weakening throughout the time they burned.
4: If there's nothing on lower Manhattan that will explode if you torch it, drop 1 million tons of structure on it or stuff it full of dust then
razorback497 1 year ago
I'll be damned. 100? There were thousands of people who responded, half of the FDNY. Roughly 5,500 firemen, plenty of more policemen, FEMA, FBI, CIA, PAPD, etc,etc,etc.
5: How much explosives would be required to do that?
6: How much explosives would be needed FOR THAT? There were no concrete load bearing elements so why did they blow up the concrete, and the structure was completely capable of wiping itself out once it started moving. The floor system was designed to handle 1,300t and the
razorback497 1 year ago
tops weighed over 50,000t.
7: Common in collapses as well.
8: Did you expect a neat pile? Nope, floors were torn apart by the force of the collapse.
9: Collapse progressed faster through the floors. Again, no need for explosives after the building started moving.
10: Both cores remained standing for many seconds after the collapses.
11: Source. "Molten metal."
12: Material wasn't tested in idle atmospheric conditions, not necessarily thermite.
13: Caused by acid formation from
razorback497 1 year ago
gypsum reactions, not caused by thermite. FEMA isn't in on it, are they?
Face it, 9/11 was an outside job!
razorback497 1 year ago
@razorback497 Hypothetical situation: You have a 100 story building. The top 10th of the building (10 floors) collapse onto the building beneath it. The energy it takes for the falling 10 floors to crush the 10 floors beneath it would also destroy the falling section. It's called newtons third law of motion.
Ahlywog 11 months ago
@razorback497 "The mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear. This means that whenever a first body exerts a force F on a second body, the second body exerts a force −F on the first body. F and −F are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction." Newtons Third Law.
Ahlywog 11 months ago
5.4 seconds* (5.6 typo)
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
Ok,
Arrest the emperor for
INDECENT EXPOSURE!
Charlie666XZ 2 years ago
1) Can any of the debunkers please explain the mechanism in which the lower floors of WTC 7 were removed in fractions of a second prior to the upper floors hitting resistance? Especially when all of the potential energy of the building was already turned into kinetic energy to achieve the free fall acceleration admitted by NIST. Thus, leaving no energy from the falling building to cause any damage to the building below, which again did not provide any resistance as the building fell at free-fall
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
@Bi0hazardx I dont claim to be an expert in demolition or physics, but it seems to me if you watch starting :15 the top collapses for a full 10 secs before the shell does.
qpwnsall 2 years ago
Uh.. 10 seconds before? Thanks again for showing everyone how ignorant you are on the subject.
The complete collapse time according NIST's Final report on WTC 7 is 5.6 Second in total. So your face value claim of watching something with your eyes without using a video physics tool, is an extra 10 seconds on top of the 5.4 which was the whole collapse?
Secondly the rate of acceleration was 9.8m/s2 (freefall). This shows the forces acting at a given moment.
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
Even if the building stalled for 10 seconds, when even NIST admits it was only 5.4 seconds in total - that does not neglect the fact that the rate of acceleration of the building was still free-fall during the fall.
Which still leaves my question you never answered. Defend the official story that defies physics. How can you have a collapse that requires compression on the way down when it fell at freefall without any resistance of the falling building - or infrastructure holding it up?
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
@Bi0hazardx I'll bet you have an answer, please do tell. Does it involve a dozen men carrying in 100s of lbs of explosives?
qpwnsall 2 years ago
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DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago
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qpwnsall
So I see after asking you a simple High school physics question. I guess you didn't take physics in high school let alone college?
You cannot explain how a collapse that requires compression could take place in a state of free-fall. Thus you cannot defend the official story.
All you do is move away from the real question and go to subjective, I doubt this would happen posits which have no scientific basis
Until you can defend the official story, you support a new investigation. Thx
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
2) In order to back up the official story of the WTC7 collapse:
Debunkers would have to explain how a collapse that required compression between floors and thus resistance could take place in free-fall acceleration.
If debunkers want to have any grounds to stand on, in critiquing those who challenge the official story.
They need to show that the official story itself is SOUND, in order to debunk those who question it.
Debunkers skip this step on the questions they cannot answer.
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
3) There is only one way to destroy the lower resistance while at the same time achieving free-fall without the energy from the falling building. This is to remove the floors just holding up the building in fractions of seconds with controlled demolition. There is no other way.
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically proven and self verifiable.
watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ
WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall
(Part 1)
watch?v=V0GHVEKrhng
(2)
watch?v=XtKLtUiww80
(3)
watch?v=Vz43hcKYBm4
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
@ 1:50 is a perfect example of compartmentalisation in action, time & time again this modality of the restriction & flow of Information serves as a divisive tool that can be used to manipulate masses of seemingly intelligent "cerebral" individuals without them even consciously being aware of their own participation to an agenda by subtle suggestive manipulation.
The truth is difficult mostly in scientific empirical processes but here one needs only use instinct first & a "sceptical" open mind.
BlueEyedCelt 2 years ago
41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11: "Terribly Flawed," "Laced with Contradictions," "a Joke," "a Cover-up"
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200+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
1000+ Engineers and Architects
250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
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b) Science and Physics - 911 Truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
You owe it to your country to look into both sides of the 9/11 debate. There are many well researched videos, aside from the poorly done ones that turn people off like Loose change. Here are good places to start
Zero (by a Nobel Prize Winner) @ watch?v=ofXKiXNDDYA
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically Proven and self verifiable. @
watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ
Science and Physics - 911 truth @ watch?v=K2Mor7udxJI&
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago 2
Thanks for all your persistence and for posting this info. It is incredibly important that these people all be held accountable. Hold on tight because this is a war. The power elite can't hide in the shadows anymore, but they will not give up a 3000% profit easily. War, drugs, slavery all these things make huge profit. We need to focus on impeaching the supreme court, while these clowns remain the laws will bend favorably for the elite. We need to restore the law of the land to integrity.
HostileNegotiator 2 years ago
nist was just lazy, obviously they did everything the easy way
nosiriwonthaveapples 2 years ago
Writing a 10,000 page report is NOT easy...
This is evidence of deliberate scientific fraud on behalf of NIST... Shyam Sundar and John Gross should have their degrees revoked and be arrested and charged with conspiracy.
WarCrime911 2 years ago 4
I agree.
nosiriwonthaveapples 2 years ago
NIST, what a joke. Boils my blood and im not even a yank.
Sloppy998 2 years ago 4
I will always suspect government involvement in 911 why? Well, has government ever told the truth? The economic collapse of 08 they were warned by multiple people denied a problem, lied about weapons of mass destruction, Lied about Iran Contras and arms for drugs, Lied Tonkan Bay the start Vietnam war, it never stops. Our congress and senate are puppets and wards of banking wall street gangs that instigate world turmoil for profit. The next wars are being planned now our kids will serve and die.
jobedied 2 years ago 5
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cottonceena 2 years ago
Cotton,
You show you ignorance of the video you are posting on. WTC 7 was never hit by a plane, it fell at Free-fall hours later that day - WTC 1 and 2 were hit by planes. 2 planes - 3 buildings all with explosives residue.
All 3 WTC building sites had residue of activated and unactivated nanothermite - a high grade US military demolition accelerant.
It's the smoking gun. And your post didn't have any context, just stupid arrogant and ignorant rambling.
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago 2
The comments and debate on this forum is proof of why we need a REAL investigation...
watch?v=79o9fFwTStc
NIST did NOT look for accelerants such as nanothermite... If they did, they would have found the evidence that has been peer reviewed in an article by Neils Harret...
AlienScientist 2 years ago
@AlienScientist that's because the idea that nanothermite was in the towers is completely made up. Never been found. Plus Jones thinks that if it was used it would be for fuses for modern explosives. You've got to be kidding me. It's like he's testing your gullability
heafers84 1 year ago
@heafers84,
Made up? No the idea that Fire symmetrically demolished 3 skyscrapers in one day is made up... For one, it's never happened before or since.
The evidence for thermite comes from careful investigations into the evidence from 9/11. All the evidence points to thermite. I'm not being gullible, I'm being rationale and scientific, unlike the morons who believe that office fires could have done this kind of damage. Nothing aside from thermite, can explain the temperatures and molten iron.
AlienScientist 1 year ago 6
@AlienScientist "Made up" Yes. Their paper is crap, they performed an XED, which only tells us that Fe, Al, O, and other ele. made up the compound, do you know how many compounds can be found with the elements found, not including contamination? Since it was two sided and one side was a binder first brilliant thought should be paint, which has all the elements the chips do, hm i might be on to something. Also, not one keV matched thermite, and energy content is above theoretical max of thermite
heafers03 1 year ago
@heafers03 "o you know how many compounds can be found with the elements found"
Do you? Tell us what other compounds contain the exact amount of iron, aluminum and oxygen as thermite does.
"first brilliant thought should be paint, which has all the elements the chips do"
...Or, rather, tell us what paint consists primarily of rust and aluminum.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@heafers03 "Also, not one keV matched thermite, and energy content is above theoretical max of thermite"
Energy release rates were matched against nano-thermite, total energy release of both is similar to that of commercially available thermite or thermate.
...
Frankly it's horribly dishonest of you to say it's "made up" when you already know the exact study that documents the findings.
Not to mention molten iron flows and debris and eutectic formations documented by FEMA...
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@AlienScientist , funny thing,.. I don't remember you saying "Jones">@heafers84,? once in either video. lol,.. nice work/video
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 1 year ago
@heafers84 think "wireless" technology.
johnnytheprick 1 year ago
Did you know the following;
September means 7 in latin which at one time was month seven. .*. 7/11 .*.
Sirius cycles also known as sothic cycles has a defined leap day which falls on September 11th.
EightPointsKeyXII 2 years ago
@EightPointsKeyXII
No I did not, but the use of ritualistic dates is prolific when you record significant global events.
pondman27 2 years ago
Qpwn,
You obviously have a limited scope of history. The US has been open about previous uses of false flag terrorism. Creating an event themselves in order to manufacture support for geopolitical courses that the people do not currently support. It happened in the Spanish - American war 1898 The sinking of the Maine. The prior knowledge of Pearl Harbor and using the event to enter the war. and more.
The US has killed more US citizens in the illegal Iraq war than @ 9/11 - you have no point.
DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago
@DoYouCareAboutTruth So your argument is: a 911 conspiracy could be true because conspiracy theories have existed in the past? nonsense.
Also to compare the ease of sinking your own ship out of sight of anyone during the late 1800s to a 911 inside job involving multiple targets in plain sight of everyone during the information age is rediculous.
qpwnsall 2 years ago
From US Govs - Operation Northwoods
" A Remember the Maine incident could be arranged: We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.
(2) Land friendly Cubans in uniform over-the-fence to stage attack on base.
(4) Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans).
(6) Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).
(11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims."
DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago
From US Govs - Operation Northwoods
"We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.
It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday."
DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago
Google Operation Northwoods -Its declassified proof of other attempts at false flag citizen murder. It was signed off on by the Joint Chief of Staff under McNamara. George Washington University hosts the declassified doc. It's the 6th result in Google. They discuss killing college students on a charter plane around Cuba, in order to blame it on Cuba. They discuss the US military creating Terror campaigns in Washington and Florida. They said the more deaths the more support.
15 pages: Read it!
DoYouCareAboutTruth 2 years ago
This is why many policies and geopolitical goals are directed towards the goals of the lobbying sector and international class. The nation states realize they are dependent on the international sector (first off) to build and move their goods and capital through their areas, and bring jobs and profit.
This is why NAFTA, CAFTA are behind closed door policy meetings run by corporations. Nafta's law's overrule the law of US, Mexico, and Canada as far as trade. Their courts usurp the supreme court
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
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@Bi0hazardx Wrong. Once again, I was responding to someone who does believe 911 was carried out by ruling elite, so your original statement "you would think that everything is controlled and carried out "directly" by a handful of elites" is wrong, how are you not understanding this?
Of course I believe corruption exists, I never said it didn't. If you believe 911 was an inside job I will gladly debate you, but if your argument is that corruption exists then we agree.
qpwnsall 2 years ago
@Bi0hazardx
Please list which lobbying sectors predominate with the western nations.
And why are so many nation states utterly bankrupt with their peoples held as collateral?
To suggest it is merely dog eat dog (human eat human) is bad enough, but to deny the globalist movements existence is simply absurd.
pondman27 2 years ago
pondman27,
I think we actually agree on more than you would think. Yes there is a globalist movement, it is influenced by what I talked about. The fed and fractional reserve dilute the value of money - and hurt the buying power and exchange rates of currency. They need a single world currency in order to remove all exchange rates; which is the only thing showing the diluting value of creating money out of nothing. Once there is a single currency they can sweep under the rug all the devalue.
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago