You know Thomas Jefferson said that the way that the U.S. government was set up it could easily be an oligarchy. He named the courts as being the minority that would rule the majority. We revolted against a king 3000 miles away and then subjected ourselves to these kind of idiots that are constantly accepting bribes and all that. Something tells me that the founding fathers did not have this in mind when they set up the U.S. government.
The military is a good place for me to go whenever Don't ask, Don't tell ends. I will have special privileges as far as promotion, new gay adopted holidays. I will eventually wear down the opposition and have special bathrooms. I will be part of affirmative action. If anyone calls me gay, it will be sexual harassment. The military will probably lose allot of potential enlistees because of the fact that I am openly allowed to be here.
@wtbofnc Because this has happened to businesses in States that protect the employment and have anti-discrimination policies that protect gay Americans..
How will gays have special privileges in terms of promotion?
Gay adopted holidays?
I dont want separate bathrooms.. I'm openly gay and serving in the AirForce now. My coworkers know I'm gay.. I use the same restrooms still. There is no issue there.
Do you know a gay person? Find one, get to know them, then form an opinion, please.
It is allot like the military in the sense that everyone is trapped inside walls or barracks or sharing bathrooms. There is allot of homosexual sex in prisons because those straight prisoners will eventually come to me when they go without sex for months and months. People like me will take over the weak minded ones and homosexuality will take over.
I want special Rights. I want to annoy every straight person and force them to accept me. I want, I want I want. The military is NOT about me. Its about we. I am NOT special. Maybe the military should also force straight folks not to tell. Wait, I can come in the military. Straight people cannot hold hands in Uniform. There is no "Don't ask, Don't tell in prisons.
@wtbofnc stfu moron. u have no fucking clue what you're talking about. No one is looking for more rights than anyone else and if they are they wont get them. ignorant piece of shit. jump off a tall building
How does having gays serve openly "threaten" the military, hmm? No one's bothered to "explain" that.
Closeted gays have served for years in the military, and so far as I can tell - no issues, they work just as hard at their jobs as anyone. Aside from the occasional harassment, assault, or even murder by other so-called "men" or "women", of course.
If you've got what it takes to serve, then who gives a damn?
How does that "threaten" the military? How does this "endanger America"?
Some might, but not everyone. If the man/woman beside you works hard and gives their all, but just happens to be homosexual - big deal, get used to it!
Besides, you wouldn't "need" to say you're gay - it's up to you if you want people to know or not. It's stupid to say "If you're gay, doesn't matter if you're new or you worked your ass off for years - get out."
I laugh at all the idiots who think it's "tough" and "manly" to harass/beat up/kill people just for being gay.
@NorthernBloodLust That doesn't make sense at all. Gen. Petraeus said that they completely destroy unit cohesion. As an example he said that if one soldier does not change his socks once then it will have a negative affect on the whole unit. If that is just with changing socks then how much would it be for a gay in the military? Why is it that we have to double over backwards for less then %2 of our population that carries %80 of our STD cases?
An openly gay soldier destroying the cohesion of a unit? How? I know that some might feel uncomfortable in the presence of a gay person, but why play *BLAME THE GAYS*? It's "their fault" if they're hated/harassed/attacked? Bullshit. It's the morons who think it's okay to do that we should be worried about.
Again, if a gay soldier does their job *well*, and their team benefits - what's the problem?
Canada allows gays to openly serve, and so far as I know - we've had no 'problems'.
@NorthernBloodLust Did you not read my full comment. If someone not changing their socks has an effect on unit cohesion then how much more does a way of living effect unit cohesion? That is the point that I was making. You said that one might feel uncomfortable in the presence of a gay person. Imagine if that feeling of unease emerged in battle. You would be killed. The military can not allow for that because human life is precious and they do not want to unnecessarily waste them.
how many people feel uneasy around christians. i guess religion should become a don't ask, don't tell issue. who you worship is your bussiness, so long as you don't open express you affiliation. keep your religion a secret. after all, christianity is a choice.
this line of reasoning could be extended to near everything. keep everything about you a secret, a lie so as not to unease those in your unit.
@83niteowl Its not about religion. Its about a lifestyle. Websters definition of religion is: "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects." It doesn't say anything about a lifestyle there. No matter what you say the two are different. It seems to me that you hate Christians and think that we are the result of all the problems of society.
i chose christianity as my target to point out that someone's "beliefs and practices" should NOT be a factor so long as it does not hinder thier ability to do the job. homosexuality does not hinder the homo's abilities. bigotry hinders the bigot's ability. i didn't mean to actually suggest that christians should not be allowed to expouse their beliefs. essentially "unit coheasion" is a buzz word for widespread bigotry that could go both ways.
People should get ready to see gay people come home to their lovers on T.V. I can see it now a male soldier running up to his male lover on ABC after being over seas.
It's really kind of unbelievable how authority believes they can force you to do or be something. First day of the first grade i had a teacher tell me i should be put to death for my religious history. You gotta figure, that as cruel as that was, for her it was a heroic effort of giving extreme dread and fear of execution to a small child. People in power always believe they are doing the right thing as they bring "push button murder" to the circumstance.
Obango has been doing a good job destroying America, he wouldnt dare pull this gay shit with his native Muslim country he is from where they kill gays. Cant wait to see faggot Army and Marine commericails on tv. Too many faggots in Washington making decisions for America.
You know Thomas Jefferson said that the way that the U.S. government was set up it could easily be an oligarchy. He named the courts as being the minority that would rule the majority. We revolted against a king 3000 miles away and then subjected ourselves to these kind of idiots that are constantly accepting bribes and all that. Something tells me that the founding fathers did not have this in mind when they set up the U.S. government.
billyslo87 1 year ago
The military is a good place for me to go whenever Don't ask, Don't tell ends. I will have special privileges as far as promotion, new gay adopted holidays. I will eventually wear down the opposition and have special bathrooms. I will be part of affirmative action. If anyone calls me gay, it will be sexual harassment. The military will probably lose allot of potential enlistees because of the fact that I am openly allowed to be here.
wtbofnc 1 year ago
@wtbofnc you are right. open homosexuality will be horrible for the military.
usaf317 1 year ago
@wtbofnc Because this has happened to businesses in States that protect the employment and have anti-discrimination policies that protect gay Americans..
How will gays have special privileges in terms of promotion?
Gay adopted holidays?
I dont want separate bathrooms.. I'm openly gay and serving in the AirForce now. My coworkers know I'm gay.. I use the same restrooms still. There is no issue there.
Do you know a gay person? Find one, get to know them, then form an opinion, please.
dqueek 1 year ago
@wtbofnc
Obvious troll.
NorthernBloodLust 1 year ago
It is allot like the military in the sense that everyone is trapped inside walls or barracks or sharing bathrooms. There is allot of homosexual sex in prisons because those straight prisoners will eventually come to me when they go without sex for months and months. People like me will take over the weak minded ones and homosexuality will take over.
wtbofnc 1 year ago
I want special Rights. I want to annoy every straight person and force them to accept me. I want, I want I want. The military is NOT about me. Its about we. I am NOT special. Maybe the military should also force straight folks not to tell. Wait, I can come in the military. Straight people cannot hold hands in Uniform. There is no "Don't ask, Don't tell in prisons.
wtbofnc 1 year ago
@wtbofnc stfu moron. u have no fucking clue what you're talking about. No one is looking for more rights than anyone else and if they are they wont get them. ignorant piece of shit. jump off a tall building
drunkenboxer1985 1 year ago
So Barack Obama and Congress really dont have the power. One judge has all the power lol that's a freakin joke.
yeahokay1500 1 year ago
So in the US, one judge can overrule the 400 member strong congress ? That is really a messed up system. lol
kakompo 1 year ago
Why are people against gays in the military. I think we should put them all in the military and send them all to Afghanistan.
Standonarock 1 year ago
A reporter at an Obama Press conference asked,
"Mr. President, what's you stance on Don't ask, Don't tell?"
Obama, "Don't ask."
Joe Biden, "Don't tell."
lustcorp 1 year ago
Dont ask dont pikchu
jaowseph 1 year ago
How does having gays serve openly "threaten" the military, hmm? No one's bothered to "explain" that.
Closeted gays have served for years in the military, and so far as I can tell - no issues, they work just as hard at their jobs as anyone. Aside from the occasional harassment, assault, or even murder by other so-called "men" or "women", of course.
If you've got what it takes to serve, then who gives a damn?
How does that "threaten" the military? How does this "endanger America"?
NorthernBloodLust 1 year ago 2
@NorthernBloodLust Are you kidding? The straight guys will really feel uncomfortable around gays especially in the military dormitories.
ChristiansofAsia 1 year ago
@ChristiansofAsia i agree the straight mean guys might beat the shit out of them in boot camp.
Washburneffect 1 year ago
@ChristiansofAsia
Some might, but not everyone. If the man/woman beside you works hard and gives their all, but just happens to be homosexual - big deal, get used to it!
Besides, you wouldn't "need" to say you're gay - it's up to you if you want people to know or not. It's stupid to say "If you're gay, doesn't matter if you're new or you worked your ass off for years - get out."
I laugh at all the idiots who think it's "tough" and "manly" to harass/beat up/kill people just for being gay.
NorthernBloodLust 1 year ago
@NorthernBloodLust people harrass/beat up/bully me and I'm straight. Weird how you never hear anything about that.
Standonarock 1 year ago
@NorthernBloodLust That doesn't make sense at all. Gen. Petraeus said that they completely destroy unit cohesion. As an example he said that if one soldier does not change his socks once then it will have a negative affect on the whole unit. If that is just with changing socks then how much would it be for a gay in the military? Why is it that we have to double over backwards for less then %2 of our population that carries %80 of our STD cases?
billyslo87 1 year ago
@billyslo87
An openly gay soldier destroying the cohesion of a unit? How? I know that some might feel uncomfortable in the presence of a gay person, but why play *BLAME THE GAYS*? It's "their fault" if they're hated/harassed/attacked? Bullshit. It's the morons who think it's okay to do that we should be worried about.
Again, if a gay soldier does their job *well*, and their team benefits - what's the problem?
Canada allows gays to openly serve, and so far as I know - we've had no 'problems'.
NorthernBloodLust 1 year ago
@NorthernBloodLust Did you not read my full comment. If someone not changing their socks has an effect on unit cohesion then how much more does a way of living effect unit cohesion? That is the point that I was making. You said that one might feel uncomfortable in the presence of a gay person. Imagine if that feeling of unease emerged in battle. You would be killed. The military can not allow for that because human life is precious and they do not want to unnecessarily waste them.
billyslo87 1 year ago
@billyslo87
how many people feel uneasy around christians. i guess religion should become a don't ask, don't tell issue. who you worship is your bussiness, so long as you don't open express you affiliation. keep your religion a secret. after all, christianity is a choice.
this line of reasoning could be extended to near everything. keep everything about you a secret, a lie so as not to unease those in your unit.
83niteowl 1 year ago
@83niteowl Its not about religion. Its about a lifestyle. Websters definition of religion is: "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects." It doesn't say anything about a lifestyle there. No matter what you say the two are different. It seems to me that you hate Christians and think that we are the result of all the problems of society.
billyslo87 1 year ago
@billyslo87
i chose christianity as my target to point out that someone's "beliefs and practices" should NOT be a factor so long as it does not hinder thier ability to do the job. homosexuality does not hinder the homo's abilities. bigotry hinders the bigot's ability. i didn't mean to actually suggest that christians should not be allowed to expouse their beliefs. essentially "unit coheasion" is a buzz word for widespread bigotry that could go both ways.
83niteowl 1 year ago
People should get ready to see gay people come home to their lovers on T.V. I can see it now a male soldier running up to his male lover on ABC after being over seas.
msesq1 1 year ago
When the revolt happens, this should make the leftist Gays obvious targets !
hobo59 1 year ago
It's really kind of unbelievable how authority believes they can force you to do or be something. First day of the first grade i had a teacher tell me i should be put to death for my religious history. You gotta figure, that as cruel as that was, for her it was a heroic effort of giving extreme dread and fear of execution to a small child. People in power always believe they are doing the right thing as they bring "push button murder" to the circumstance.
hypnofan35 1 year ago
Obango has been doing a good job destroying America, he wouldnt dare pull this gay shit with his native Muslim country he is from where they kill gays. Cant wait to see faggot Army and Marine commericails on tv. Too many faggots in Washington making decisions for America.
machonachos916 1 year ago
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machonachos916 1 year ago
America is fucking Dieing.....quickly...
JDaKingman 1 year ago
legalize prostitution
vegetarian7710 1 year ago