ENGAGEMENT RINGS And WEDDING RINGS in ISLAM its ORIGIN - Part 1 Abu Mussab Wajdi

[5heeshi]

This brother has a lot of good info, but at the same time comes across as an (obnoxious prick) -_-

Should spend more time educating the muslims rather then telling them not to listen to this person or that person. We have our own mind to decide. Maybe someone will say don't listen to you then what?

[DanishRiyaz]

@5heeshi Qur'aan says, "your job is to convey the message."

[drive1786]

@5heeshi ......stright to hell punk , since u herd the message dilvered to u but u did not heed the waring so now what ?

[dammee]

well...I don't care what finger it goes on but I still want my husband to buy me diamonds hahaha

[sulaqa]

muslim take everything from the none believer subhanallah but the none believers don't take anything from us. yet muslims are Arguing why can't we not do what the kufars are doin. follow your prophet peace be upon him stay away what he didn't do take what he did. allah knows best.

[AlRuya]

jazaka allah khier for this reminder, tell me which lecture is this?

[AbuDahjana]

@Fatima ask your self sister what were your intentions and I hope you didn't wear a big white dress with a tight hijab awkward

[lovepoison102]

Wow really?o_o

[bronzevillejta]

I couldn't post the link, but search for wedding ring on islam - qa . com or fatwa 21441 for the fatwa by ibn 'Uthaymeen

[bronzevillejta]

As salamu alaikum, this response by the brother is quite different from one attributed to Sheikh ibn 'Uthaymeen, rahimahu allah.

[MrMCate]

Did not the Prophet say to a man who had nothing to offer in marriage that he should give his intended something, even if it is as small as a ring?

Why would the Prophet allow a woman's dowry to be a ring if engagement and wedding rings are forbidden?! I agree the act of sealing wedding vows with a ring and the belief the ring can benefits or harm the relationship is wrong. However, it seems clear to me, a woman can wear a ring gifted to her by her spouse for marriage.

[DanishRiyaz]

@MrMCate Bro mahr is given to wife after the marriage and engagement ring is given before marriage, it is not mahr. Study the Sharee'ah please.

[sulaqa]

@MrMCate right but it doesn't mean he/she has to were to show people that they are married in islam. my husband can give me a ring but i can decide when to wear/when not to wear and which finger to put it, doesn't have to be certain finger. bottom line is not to look like the none believers. as the hadith said "HE WHO INTRODUCES INTO (OUR RELIGION) SOMETHING WHICH DOES NOT BELONG TO IT IS TO BE REJECTED". other hadith "HE WHO TRY TO LOOK LIKE OTHERS HE IS PART OF THEM".SO LET FEAR ALLAH HE SEES.

[fatimah6]

This the first time I have ever heard that rings are Haram and I come from a religious family. I'm really confused - since our actions are judged based on our intentions, then can't we exchange a wedding ring with our husband/wife if our intention is not to make shirk but to simply wear a ring gifted to us by our spouse?

[DanishRiyaz]

@fatimah6 yes intentions are very important in Islaam for any act, but the act is the same important in Islaam. I cannot say I will curse my brother but I love him at the same time. Both are equally important.

[sulaqa]

@fatimah6 sister true our actions are judge based on our intention you said that your self if your intention is not shirk then why do you have to do what nonbelievers do. in islam as you mention that you came from religious family you can exchange gift between your husbands/wifes but it shouldn't be something they (non believer) do your husband can give you any other thing you want a car, house, ect.. allah sees what your doing so don't follow the ignorant people foot steps follow the prophet.

[CaptainHook1971]

Very good !! This Brother is very good because he speaks what we common Muslims think!! he knows the problems which we face in our regular life because he is a common guy and seems really dedicated to Allah !!! otherwise scholars of TV channels are not so helpful and daring to show us our many common and unnoticable faults !!!

[Cabro0na]

MashaAllaah!! May God reward this man.... Amiiin!

[popcan4u]

This honestly doesn't make any sense. If we are talking about the origins of things, the origins of the Kabba are from idol worshipers. Does that mean we should stop doing Hajj? Engagement and wedding rings are purely cultural phenomenas that have nothing to do with the worship of God. Therefore, it can't be considered Shirk. Also, the allegation of Shirk should be used with caution because you are actually questioning someone's religiousity. This guy needs to be very careful.unfort. he's not

[DanishRiyaz]

@popcan4u "the origins of the Kabba are from idol worshipers" Don't make vain talk comments please, Ka'bah was built up by Ibraaheem and his son, they were not idolaters but they were Muslim and this was a sign of unity of Allaah. Engagement rings and wedding rings have the Roman religious background therefore Muslims should boycott this habit.

[sulaqa]

@popcan4u first of all the kabba was not origin from idol subhanalah it was origin to worship allah when prophet ibrahim and ismail build it. but people change it to idols.as you know the none believers believe that act of sealing wedding vows with a ring and the belief the ring can benefits or harm the relationship. that is not acceptable in islam only allah's will that the relationship will stay or distroy with qadar so i hope that clearfy some for you

[MoreThanTemporary]

So ... basically ... the engagement ceremony itself is wrong?!

PLEASE TELL.

[DanishRiyaz]

@MoreThanTemporary : If you don't break the laws of Islaam like they shake hands and sit together and go out alone with each other, but they can talk in the supervision of a mahram not close to them but he should see them, then this is allowed to let them know each other under the supervision of the family and without breaking the sharee'ah.

[jonnah0]

@MoreThanTemporary yeah maybe it's an satanic rituel.......

[HuggiePacino]

one of the reasons i left my gf which i shouldve never had in the 1st place,we talked about no rings....the kuffar never will understand shirk...they toy with Allah everyday...they think hes a human,born,lives and die....

[Goldilocks88]

im pretty sure when he's talking about the origin of the whole fourth finger vein of love thing its actual origin is with ancient egyptians

[lub783]

hes right i went to a catholic school and i was taught in a catholic wedding the priest blesses the rings and it symbolises a rrelationship into which no one can enter. 

[DanishRiyaz]

@lub783 : We thank bro Abu Mussab.

[UnitedUmmahinshAllah]

so you CANT wear a wedding ring?



[DanishRiyaz]

@UnitedUmmahinshAllah : : Yes, coz its having a non-muslims religious origin, but ring is not haraam but itself. You can tell your husband to buy a ring after marriage and you should share gifts with each other for you full life and that is recommended in Islaam.

[AfghanSultan]

I love him hahaha

[msbkru]

Correct me if i'm wrong, But the origin of fasting on the day of Ashura is also from a non-islamic origin ( Followers of Judaism Fasted in honor of their Messiah Moses, and the day the Pharaoh drowned), and yet it is one of the most scared days as recorded by the Prophet Himself S.A.W.

[DanishRiyaz]

@msbkru : : Allaah says, "fasting has been prescribed for you AS IT WAS PRESCRIBED BEFORE YOU so that you can learn self restrain." Means its origin is from the early prophets of Islaam like Ibraaheem, Moosaa, 'Eesaa ('alayhimus salaam) NOT from Kabala or Roman's etc, but from the Prophets and messengers of Islaam.

[TanzimAkhtar]

@msbkru Moreover, to add on what brother Danish said, it has been legislated by the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam), hence we do it.

[12345jl05]

does any one have a vid showing the brothers view on democracy voting???

[tannazia]

Subhan-allah, his wisdom is simplistic. I think I love this brother very much. "Oh Allah, Bless him and his family and save us from our everyday minor sins."

Surely we are the losers.

[DanishRiyaz]

@tannazia : All of us love this brother!

[Evilsister95]

No I am convinced, but I am wondering whether you can wear a ring you've gotten as a wedding gift* without the intention that it'll increase your love (vena cave etc)

[DanishRiyaz]

@Evilsister95 : You can give your wife a ring as a gift (apart from Mahr) but when she is your wife means you are married to her and then you can hold her hand and do what you want... But before marriage like on the wedding day or engagement day man is not allowed to present a ring because its roots are some other religion as ritual. Just marry her and then in privacy without making a party you can make her wear this ring of gold or silver etc. You can also see IslamQA. Jazaakillaah Khayran sis

[DanishRiyaz]

@Evilsister95 : For more, visit our site and meet us there.

[Evilsister95]

Then are you saying this hadith is wrong?

"The Prophet (peace be on him), however, permitted men to wear silver rings. The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) wore a silver ring. On the contrary, in the Sahih of al-Bukhari we find that the Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) advised a man who wanted to marry a woman to, "Present her with a gift, even if it be ring made of iron." On the basis of this hadith al-Bukhari inferred the permissibility of iron rings"

[DanishRiyaz]

@Evilsister95 : I ask Allaah's protection, the hadeeth is authentic. But you're misunderstanding the hadeeth; nowhere this video said that men or women cannot wear rings or present each other rings, but what this video is focusing on is the 'engagement rings'. Regarding the hadeeth which you quote, "Present her with a gift, even if it be ring made of iron" was the Mahr (marital gift) which is obligatory for men to give to wives. Hope you're convinced sister.

[DanishRiyaz]

@Evilsister95 : For the hadeeth which talks about silver ring, watch this :

Watch : "The Best Marriage & The Best Dowry - Abu Mussab [HD]"

[AA38063]

jesus are Muslims allowed to do anything

[DanishRiyaz]

@AA38063 : Doing anything is contradicting the meaning of being Muslim which means Allaah's will is your will.

[AA38063]

@DanishRiyaz fair enough

[naarakyuu]

Oh Allah, Keep all the Muslim Ummah safe from shirk. Ameen.

[KCBellyDancer]

what if your not wearing it as such can you not wear jewerly at all?its the intentions that matter i thought..and is the hadeeth metioned above wrong about a metal ring if it is given as a gift and worn on a different finger?lol

[ameneteid]

how about if your very beautiful and people will continue to ask for your hand if you dont wear a ring!!!

[DanishRiyaz]

@ameneteid : Well as a muslim women you're told to hide your hands that's mustahab in Islaam. So whether you are wearing a ring or not, its the same. Once you're engaged immediately go for marriage, then tell your husband to have a waleemah that will inform people that you're married. May Allaah make our lives likeness of our Salaf.

[ameneteid]

@DanishRiyaz most scholars say that the face and hands can be shown, its just the rest that needs to be covered- and allah swt knows best- i was talking about my sister- shes not going to wear gloves i know lol jaza Allah kheir anyway..

[toonpk]

which writers book at 1:15 ?

[syazwankhan]

I agree with him about this. we are not suppose to imitate the culture of non-muslims especially the pagans.

[missmillionmaker]

y did the prophet say to get her a ring even if its made out of metal ?

[DanishRiyaz]

@missmillionmaker : Where is this hadeeth?

[abuabdillah333]

@DanishRiyaz رواه مسلم في الصحيح رقم 1425

This hadeeth is referring to a women who offered herself in marriage to the prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa salam) and he did not respond (to the request), so a man from the sahaba offered to marry her but had nothing to offer. It is a long narration, at one point the prophet (alayhi salaatu wa salam) says: Look and see (if you can find anything), even if it is only an iron ring which you can give.

This hadeeth is in the context of a mahr. wallahu 'alam

[DanishRiyaz]

@abuabdillah333 : Yes this hadeeth is in the context of mahr, iron ring was mahr.

[PlrinPuruPuru]

@missmillionmaker If you read that hadith, you would see it was not an engagement ring, but a gift before marriage, it could be anything.

[ameneteid]

@missmillionmaker thats such a good point!!! ahh but wasnt that for the dowry? perhaps meaning even if its worth nothing!!! give it to her! but i may bee wrong

[missmillionmaker]

Ivwe never heard something like this in my entire lfie!! Ive heard that its is acually encouraged!!

[afrikanballa]

ALLAH HUMA SALEE ALAA MUHAMMAD!

[welqy]

@afrikanballa wa ali mu7ammad =) 

[kushira]

Salaam to all! I have a question regarding rings, im getting married soon and my husband wants to buy me a ring as a gift but not actually a wedding ring as i know its following other customs. so is it ok for him to buy me a ring as a wedding gift? =/

[DanishRiyaz]

@kushira : Wa 'alaykum as-salaam ukhtee! Yes Inshaa-allaah if you don't follow the way engagement rings are beings planned, then its okay bi'idhnillaah. Also as you may be aware he cannot make you to wear it with his hands neither can you wear this in a party and then people clap after you wear because then its the engagement ring not just a gift. Don't wear it first time on your engagement party. Join us on our site inshaa-allaah we will learn more.

[kushira]

@DanishRiyaz salaam! Thank you for your reply i feel better =D nonoo it wont be ina party or anything, its basically for the hak mehr, i didnt want money or anything just something simple =) also, lol alhamdulillah no big lavish wedding simple nikah in the masjid and walima after, ah nooo we dont beleive in engagements either not islamic lol. so its basically for the nikah =) jazakallah for the link im interested in joining! =D

[3822218]

Muslims Muslims Muslims, Shirk & Mushrik doesn't mean always Kafir !!

There are kinds of Shirk ( Big Shirk & Small Shirk ), who did a big shirk he's not a Muslim any more like worshiping another god beside Allah.

Small Shirk like swearing in a name of other human or things, AL-Reya' is small Shirk also, wearing a necklace or a ring because you think it will bring something good to you or prevent something bad ( & that's what the Shikh meant )

Doing Small Shirk doesn't mean that you're a Kafir

[MDZZ86]

Brothers do not be confused by the term shirk here. It should be understood broadly not just simply meaning 'associating Allah'. In well-written Aqeeda books it has been explained well. Kindly do your reading.

Whenever someone believes something can give he/she benefits or lucky outcome, whether amulets, rings, clothes, house whatever, then this is shirk. Why? Because he/she believes the object gives her benefit but in actual fact it is Allah Who is Willing to do so. BarakaAllahu fikum.

[DanishRiyaz]

@all: Your comments show how much sharee'ah you know.

[fsaiduzzaman]

Here's what I think. This man argues useless semantics for practices and things that he claims to suddenly know the history of because he's some sort of magical historian, and then, to SHOCK! his audience, keeps saying the word "shirk" to somehow associate a wedding ring with the clear extreme of associating partners with God. Of course, considering the IQ of his audiences, he has his manipulation practically cut out for him. Oh and don't forget to put random irrelevant ahadith in the comments.

[MrBernardjilhani]

oh brother mussab, i love you thats why i advice you! please learn more knowledge from shariah, tariqa, haqiqa and ma`rifa and also history so that you will never trap by the devil of the west because your country is a puppet of the west.

[DanishRiyaz]

@MrBernardjilhani : Your country is puppet of what? This is the way you talk to daa'ee of Islaam? Shame!

[PhotonUponLight]

The belief and the actual act/ ceremony to put on the ring is following the christians blindly. But it does not rule out the fact that you can buy a ring for your future wife as a from of Mahar. Nor are we following the Hindus if we buy a necklace for our wife Mahar.Mahar can be anything, people use rings with any rare gems in the past.

Diamond was a mass brain wash. Do a research on De Beers

[ThePrinceAmerx]

this guy uses the word shirk out of content. shirk is associating other with ALLAH

[3822218]

@ThePrinceAmerx

Please read my comment bellow.

[BetweenTheTeeth]

This guy is actually lost. What is he talking about?

May Allah guide him

[Raiya30]

The wedding/engagement ring is older than all three Judaism/Christianity/Islam...

[Raiya30]

ancient Egyptian who established the custom of placing a ring on the finger of his wife, as a sign that he had confidence in her ability to care for his house. The Greek and Roman bridegroom often gave a ring to the bride's father-a practice that was probably a survival of primitive bride purchase. In the second century B. C., the Roman bride was presented with a gold ring. But this she wore only in public. ..

[Raiya30]

It was not until about 860 that the Christians used the ring in marriage ceremonies, and then it was not the plain circlet that we now use, but a highly decorated device, engraved with symbolical figures of doves, lyres and even of two linked hands. Such a "Heathenish" gadget was not given a hearty reception by the Church, and for a long time its use was discouraged, though never completely abandoned.

[hasoon2196]

I just wasted 8 thousand dollars.

[DanishRiyaz]

@hasoon2196

On what? Nikaah?

[HyperDarkness91]

@hasoon2196

LOL! Good one man!

[IslamicBulletin]

@hasoon2196 ...lol

[anaHaneefah]

Assalamualaikum i like to hear his lectures but he's not sheikh he just a speaker or a student of knowledge.

[DanishRiyaz]

@anaHaneefah

We don't need Shaykh title to believe truth. Shaykh means Sir. He is giving this answer on the basis on evidence so no need to get Shaykh title. may Allaah guide Muslim Ummah!

[anaHaneefah]

@DanishRiyaz i agree wth u akhi truth is truth no need that title to convey it but some ppl called him as a sheikh/ scholar and put him in the same place wth other senior scholars it seems to be going to his head. that's why i said that but that's only my thought i ask Allah to forgive if it's wrong. and Allah knows best. BarakaALlahufeek

[DanishRiyaz]

@anaHaneefah

You're right sister, I ask Allaah to forgive our sins!

[DanishRiyaz]

@anaHaneefah

Wa-'alaykum as-salaam ...

[Dewindo]

@anaHaneefah Wa'alaikumusalaam.... What you mean he is just a speaker or student of knowledge? He is a Da'i, his job is to talk about Islam within his knowledge.

[RabiaBasri100]

This 12 year old is ridiculous, who believes this??? Everything is Shirk??? sounds neurotic...

[themuslimprincess]

@RabiaBasri100 May allah help u and guide u

[RabiaBasri100]

This 12 year old is ridiculous, who believes this??? Everything is Shirk??? sounds neurotic...

[jumar1281]

don't forget brothers and sisters, one of the signs of the coming of the day of judgement is that shirk will be so prevalent and so common, that it (shirk) will be harder to see than a black ant, sitting on a black stone on a dark night

[TheAtheistFuture]

@jumar1281 "don't forget brothers and sisters, one of the signs of the coming of the day of judgement is that shirk will be so prevalent and so common, that it (shirk) will be harder to see than a black ant, sitting on a black stone on a dark night" LOL what is blazes are you talking about? This so called 'shirk' has been going on since the dawn of your religion, and very very common. There have always been more people worshiping other gods to Allah than Muslims.

[alisonlowenheart]

@tariq353 . thank you for telling me this . jazakallahukair

[tariq353]

Jazak allah khair for sharing video........

wa salam

[alisonlowenheart]

and 'Muhammad'.

[alisonlowenheart]

i thought prophet muhammad s.a.w. himself wore a ring. in which was carved kalimat'Allah'

[tariq353]

@alisonlowenheart -brother yes Prophet (saw) did but that wasn't engagement ring...here he is talking exclusively abt engagement ring traditions of non muslims.

"sahih muslim,Bk 24,Number 5219:

Anas b. Malik reported: I saw one day on the finger of Allah's

Messenger (may peace be Upon him) a silver ring; so the people

also got silver rings made and wore them Then Allah's Apostle

(may peace be upon him) discarded his ring, and the people

also discarded their rings."

[Pizziesta]

Jaza'KhALLAHU Khrairah! May ALLAH reward you for the upload. Very much informative. Indeed, UMMAH is in a state where we must first get rid of innovations, and these kind of videos are very much helpful.

Assalaamu Alaikum, WarahmathULLAHI Wabarakathahoo.