oh my gosh, call that thing a weed eater, itll rip 15k rpms out yo ass, while cranking over 500 hp with no turbo lol nice vid, wish i could hear it idle more, so much props to whoever built that monster!
gm = fail = true. I just think it's because none of their low end cars have sex appeal. They are all like "you have to spend big bucks to have that, because that is the american way".... I'd rather just go buy a genesis.
ya that seems like a good idea....turn the car on and instantly mash the gas pedal to the floor multiple times. but it sounds fucking good.....this coming from a '94 cobra track car owner
@celeia2 yeh this guys right the car has no paneling how are we even meant to know its a car and not a unicorn i mean its not like it has wheels or anything
People, re-read what he wrote. "Ford is the only decent American car manufacturer left." That is true but when they started the LSx projects it's become more reliable now. Back then it was all about the money. I would have been the same because capitalistic businesses doesn't care who it sells to but how much they actually make.
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@superbad1982 lol it is... google "Scoot 4 rotor" its real all right. Its also not that hard to do.. all that was changed is the eccentric shaft.. its basically like 2 13bt engines sandwiched.
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A lot of people don't know that GM bought the license to make rotaries bake in 1970. They were going to put them in the Corvette as a 5 rotor motor. Of course they scraped that Idea due to the gas consumption. At that time is when the gasoline crisis was just starting.
The onllyyy con with a wankel for the average tuner is that they're very expensive. One can easily get some simple power by drilling new holes and bulting in a GM LS series motor compared to a mazda wankel. But, I think the small blocks are no way near as cool.
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blah blah always the same shit homie if you love imports go to fucking japan if you live in america buy american i want you to see this video... Import Ricer's Suck Tuners VS American Classic Muscle Cars
lol Im all for american cars and I own an 86 rx7... whoo...
quit knocking the import market because they can outrun your ride when they have no pistons... not taking sides, but up against just about anything thats not top fuel, a 4 rotor will mop the floor with its piston driven counterpart...
How about the power curve? Reliability at higher rpm? Rpm limitations? Weight? Size? Lack of vibrations (None in comparison to a piston motor)? Volumetric efficiency? In racing, its thermal efficiency does not matter and torque is also out of the equation. Due to gearing and weight reduction in racing high torque demand is not necessary. If torque was necessary forced induction nets torque in folds. Also 1000hp is not as easy as you think. In comparison. What piston motors are you referring to?
1000hp is fairly easy out of a motor nowadays. the gm LS-series, toyota 2jz and the newer ford ohc motors come to mind. there are plenty of those motors making over 1000hp. a lot of times on the stock bottom end too. piston motors can rev high too. look at nascar motors, they will pull 10k rpm for 4 hours straight. there are also old chevy small blocks that will rev to 11-12k rpm. not stock obviously, but there are ones that will do it. even the stock bottom end in my monte will rev to 7k rpm
I never said it wasn't easy. It's just not reliable. Also 2jz, LS3,6,7,9's, are not reliable at 1000hp ranges. LS series considering they're aluminum blocks now sucks and the 2jz or 1jz can only run at 630hp to 700hp reliable. Mostly due to still using Iron blocks, but the newer 2jz's are aluminum too. My bestfriends dad used to turn 8k with his old Nova II in the late 70's. It also helped that he had his own performance shop too.
ya some of them are but some of them arent. there's one around here that makes almost 700rwhp and it only runs 7.4 in the 1/8 which is about 11.5 in the 1/4. a 700rwhp car should be a lot faster than that
this is very true my friend. only pro that rotaries have over piston engines after they hit high hp is power to displacement/weight. on the other-hand...one little flaw on ANY of the internals and boom. lmao
I hate people like you who are all "hardcore american" and will never admit when something not american is cool or good. Get over it, GM especially make cheap cars for the masses with no inspiration and flare. Ford is the only decent American car manufacturer left, they didnt take any bail out money and they even made money recently, like a company should. GM cars are junk b/c the the malibu is the same as ____ for another GM brand. They just put a diff body on the same car! cmon, lazy...
@custom240sx even ford does that. they share platforms with mazda. nissan does that with infinity. toyota lexus. all companys do it. its cheeper its nothing new to share platforms.
@custom240sx i completely agree i love my fc not to mention the rotary is so good that its the only engine to ever be mass produced and not use pistons...and not many people know but gm at 1 point was going to make a rotary corvette a 2 rotor and a 4 rotor and awfully big rotors would have been very fast but people didn't like it so it got dropped after the 2nd auto show it went to
Hey what about Dodge? If you start trashing Dodge/Jeep too I lose ALL respect for you. GMC Chevy vehicles are the only GMCs I'd buy anyhoo, my mothers '95 Suburban is still worth over 8 grand because of it's condition and the oil cooled tow package... Everything about it but gas mileage and maybe speed kicks modern SUVs in the rear... interior and electronics included, all stock (not to mention the welded steel body welded onto a welded steel frame.
@custom240sx i'm not a hardcore american car enthusiast but they have no money to re-engineer another car, i mean its hard coming up with different versions of almost every car for like 3 or 4 manufacturers AND making a profit. nissan's only got 2, toyota's got 3 and most marques only have to R&D for one brand. you're also wrong: toyota and honda make cheap cars for the masses too, and toyota is the boring one, they have no sports cars in their line up.
@koltscats you got me there, but toyota doesn't know how to market a high performance vehicle. MR2 left and so did the supra. the LFA is way to expensive for what it offers, i mean i doesn't even have a dual clutch tranny :/ its still amazing though. I'm hoping the LFA was an engineering experiment, a sort of intro before toyota starts making exciting affordable sports cars.
@custom240sx uh....ford does the same thing...Ford Explorer = Mercury Mountaineer...Ford Taurus = Mercury Sable...yeah its stupid...GM, Ford, Dodge ETC, they all build GREAT cars and Trucks...and then they also make SHIT cars and trucks...Not just americans do this...everyone has this same concept...if all cars were PERFECT...we wouldnt be able to afford to drive them
@redvision350 nothing wrong with that, it saves money. Mazda is putting the next gen MX5 and the RX9 on the same chassis as it is going to be extremely strong as well as light. The sad part is that GM is still losing money using this cost saving method.
@custom240sx I just really hope you don't think all American's are like that... Because I'm an American and I have a very open mind about cars. Just like you hate those ignorant hardcore american fans, I hate being pre-judged for being an american.
@custom240sx Yeah, GM has to be the worst of the American car brands. I think the only real, lasting credit they have to their name is their pick-up trucks & SUVs, which may last for a while, but even if they do, they're USUALLY covered in rust, or absolutley hoarding fuel without a justifiable amount of power output to compensate. Infact, most of the fuel seems to go to making horrible noises...
@custom240sx You are joking right? Ford took more money than GM and Chrysler combined from private investors. In no way am i defending GM because GM is pure shit, but you gotta admit that the High end Chrysler products such as the 300c,Viper,etc are good. =P
@custom240sx im an american lover .. i own an Evo 9 FQ-400 and a '71 Dodge Challenger and i admit that in some points My Evo Is Better Then The Challenger .. ;)
@custom240sx GM may make cheap cars but they led the world in fuel economy with power..way before it was cool...way back when Japanese Auto makers were still trying to figure out how we did it. It's not our Fault the CEO's of GM are a bunch of greedy unethical business men. My old man worked for GM from 1950 to 1995 he always said that the GM executives were/are the greediest of them all. Hell GM made electric cars back in the 60's that never went to production. Ford makes worse cars than GM
And if i wanted a car that was old technoligy i would buy a 10 year old + used car and save a lot of money. I am not a rotory head either i used to own an rx-8 and i am glad i got rid of it bad gas milage and no power but oh well. Still ran everyday with out any problems. cant say that about my friends S10 or girlfriends Malibu.
@custom240sx lol yeah the mazda rx for the lighthearted ... Maybe try a twin or single turbocharged model then complain? Cutsom 240sx? You have a s13 with the shittest engine ever produced my Nissan... Sr or Ca all the way not you KA you fool
@djresche87 actually i had this account made when i was a lot younger and had a 240sx that ran 12.5:1 c/r on 110 leaded race gas. Why by an older turbo rx7 then have to spend a lot of money upgrading the cooling system to run reliably. I am done messing around with cars to drive everyday on the street.
sure you are an idiot, look at their sales. They are not making money, and i am glad. They have been selling piece of shit cars for so long now and its finally catching up with them. Have you ever sat in a corvette? The interior is made of hard cheap feeling plastic, and the worksmanship is less than what you would find on a euporean car or most Lexus, Infinity type cars. Cadillacs are also plagued by this lack of quality. They just make cheap cars.Its fine but dont act like they are special
and the only reason why american v8's seem reliable is because they have been in production since forever and they have most of the kinks worked out. BTW that means you are paying money for a 30 year old lump of out dated engineering. For the amount of engineering you get you should pay at most like $10,000 for any GM product. Even the new engines still use push rod V8's, cmon... Maybe thats why they cant make any money they need to go out of business, need to stop rewarding bad companies
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GM makes plenty of OHC engines and have been making them at least since the 60s. I see we have another moron on the rotary vids. I didn't see that one coming....honest....LOL.
They still use pushrod engines due to their small packaging, and good overall power. They power two GM supercars the Z06 and the ZR1 which stomps all over the import exotics costing hundreds of thousands more. You are a complete idiot and need some education.
not true, 4 rotors are actually very reliable because they are basicly to stock 13b motors put together. There is a video on youtube of one that is running pump gas making 500 HP and he has made little modifications to the actual motor ( aside from sticking 2 of them together ). They dont run turbos so many of the problems the 13b turbos had are not present.
your just plan being dumb its a N/A rotary built by a very good shop. its making huge numbers and has been used as a track car, and a top speed car and has been running fine for years.
your retarded hmmm lets take a look o yeah the Mazda 787B ran in the 24 hour lemans series not only did it kill everything in its class but it did it with a 2.6L engine.and guess what the motor is still running fine when they take it to track meets and the car has been around since 1990. so proof if its built right it will last and you keep talking shit. but what the hell do you dive im pulling on a V6 mustang with flames on it.
dude your such an idiot the motor has 3 moving parts how can that be more complicated than a reciprocating motor. They are unreliable sometime because people take a stock 13b turbo and put big turbos on them and not upgrade fuel system and cooling like they should have.
I never said the internal of the motor is complicated. However all of the supporting systems make the engine complicated. Look at the engine bay of a fuel injected rotary. A piston engine is a lot easier to support and very easy to assemble.
ok no substitute for cube v8s are one thing but i wouldent bag a rotary just another way of looking at engines they are soft but still offer good power they say that rotarys are perfect for hydrogen because of the way it combusts one thing is for sure they hate low octane fuel premium or better
you know why rotor got banned from F1 racing? piston engine are already loser so dun be talking sh;t about rotor engine until u get ur hand on one of these
Im an engine rebuilder and nothing is impossible, but you would have to create a very high tech encentric shaft we heaps of counterweights and what not to stop the thing snapping. but imagine that the 40b haha what animal of an engine
you spend all your time going around youtube bagging rotaries and telling people they should put a V8 boat anchor under the hood of an RX7?. By doing that you will ruin one of the better handling cars that you can buy. If you want a car thats rwd quick in a straight line that can also handle corners well, then you leave the rotary in it. If youre only after straight line speed and you want a boat anchor under the hood? then buy a corvette
most people can pick up a 13b block by themselves with no assistance, unless your a gorilla i think you will struggle with the v8. As for the rotary motor being obsolete, the moter is still only 60 years from being on the drawing board. four stroke motors have been around for over one hundred years. Go back 40yrs and you will find the conventional four stroke was not as reliable as it is today.
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You keep thinking that the rotary is not obsolete. LOL..right now it can't even keep up with the competition where soon most sport coupes with have over 300 h.p. Even Hyundai is over 300.
The series 8 rx7 was producing the japanese limit for engine power (206kw)back in 1998. Put a decent exhaust intercooler on any rx7 and 300hp atw is very easy to achieve, without any engine modifications. Spend a bit more money on an extended port with 3mm seals and say a garret 3582r with a bigger fuel pump and secondary injectors and you will have over 400hp@tw on about 18psi boost, all relliable if you look after it.
and tell me how reliable was the average 4 stroke 40 - 50 years ago? A lot of people would consider the rotary motor to still be in the early stages of development compared to a conventional motor. Not obsolete at all. If everybody thought like you we would probably all still be travelling around by horse and cart
I dont think so, 150,000k was considered to be good. Its only in the last twenty or so years that a conventional 4 stroke motor has begun to outlast the chassis of the vehicle that it is in. And thats a low stressed motor, and the more highly tuned the motor the less reliable it becomes.
sounds like you bought a lemon. But the linkage between the drivers seat and the steering wheel also has a lot to do with it, if you dont look after it it wont look after you.
no engine lasts forever! not even your precious ls1. You cannot compare a rotory to your average toyota corolla which will do over 400000 k's. If the rotor put out the same power/capacity as your average v8 it you might see it doing 400000k.
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LOL...and you are slow. Enjoy your slowness. I can put a weedwhacker engine in my car and claim light weight too, but at the end of the race I would lose. The rotary loses a lot.
you really dont get england do you, you might be able to run a V8 in the good old US of A! but not in england fella, and why are you talking about racing? i dont race? i made this car as a project and im pretty pleased with it, cos the TR weighs as much as a fart im getting 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, now thats not too slow at all :)
england is a poor example for anything? racist aswell man? not very nice that is it, and when my engine goes pop? this car is only used to get me to college which is about a 3 mile round trip, dont think its gonna be going 'pop' any time soon bro
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They have good actors, being against a country is NOT racisist. Get your facts straight and quit using an over abused word idiot. You are correct about driving only 3 miles. No wonder that the engine has lasted this long. Don't worry, you are just postponing the inevitable. :)
haha whatever man! and i know im correct about driving only 3 miles? i really dont get you at all there, and the engine was only put in about 4 days ago, i love how you think you know my car better than me, and still no vids of your RX7 V8? im slowly starting to think it doesnt even exist, cos lets face it, if you really had this car you would put a video of it up, yes?
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The idea that you are not comprehending is a very simple one, no surprise there. If you barely drive the car, the engine will last much longer. That is why you don't have any problems. As far as my car not being one youtube, how do you know it isn't?
clicked your profile, no vids of it there, if you have a car like that you would have a video, simple, ive got a piece of crap TR7 and even i put videos up
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Why are you so intersted in my car? Are you wanting to see a car that can hand your car its ass using only my overdrive gears? I finally saw your car and it is pathetically slow. You were foolish to remove the original engine as you should have built that and turbocharged it or used the V8 that was put in the cars back in the day. Nice car itself, too bad you ruined it with that engine.
i just want to see this infamous RX7 V8, and yeah the standard engine was slow as you like, and the V8 is a good swap but it is a pain to get any decent power out of, as for the 2.0 it was slow to start with, i did add a few mods to it, new cam bore out etc etc, then that engine blew up on me one morning, hell maybe in a few weeks i'll drop another V8 in there, the rotary was only put in there to see if actually could be done, its fast yeah but i do fancy some 8 cylinder power atm.
never wasnt interested mate, its just the insurance, when i put in the 13b my insurance actually went down, trying to insure a V8 TR7 is gonna be a mission, the rover V8 would be more insurance friendly but eventually i would like an LT1, ah well thats not gonna be for a few years yet
Iron housings? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA not even the old ass 12A had iron in them. They've ALWAYS been made with steel and aluminum. Lol, you're so clueless that all I can do is laugh at your stupidity.
Steel is only 60% iron, smart guy, and MUCH lighter than cast iron, lol. I've worked for Oregon Steel Company, so I've already won this argument. Byebye now :)
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Keep laughing as you are an idiot if you think anybody believes that you work for a steel company. You got caught being an idiot and are now trying to save yourself not realizing that steel is made of iron. You are a true moron, and a liar.
FACT: Steel has iron in it. FACT: The rotary has iron in it. Old small block V8s have iron and are called iron blocks even though they are steel, and have other materials such as nickel.
You've already been proven wrong many times over about rotaries, and now you're being a bitch-ass hypocrite by talking shit and insulting instead of proving facts. Alright, fat child in his mommy's basement, you're done. It's over. Rotaries win, piston shitbox V8s lose. End of discussion.
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The only place I have been proven wrong is in your feeble mind. That is the place where logic is thrown out the window, and rotarys reign supreme and are in every can on the planet. You can come back to Earth now.
Rotarys do NOT win. If they won, they would be in the majority of cars and not piston engines. YOU FAIL as did the worthless rotary engine.
Um, let's see NO they didn't catch on because they are expensive to maintain. Sorry you're so broke, faggot, but rotaries are faster than any piston engine. You're on silence, so SHH.
sick motor
Shozzshadow1 1 month ago
Sounds like a baby crying.
Eddiezzxdito 2 months ago
oh my gosh, call that thing a weed eater, itll rip 15k rpms out yo ass, while cranking over 500 hp with no turbo lol nice vid, wish i could hear it idle more, so much props to whoever built that monster!
thaandiesel 2 months ago
WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AUSTRALIAN AN AMERICAN CARS??? mazda 10a 12a 13b 20b All made in Japan 26b was formed with german & japan!!!
fstylezkrNNN 5 months ago
gm = fail = true. I just think it's because none of their low end cars have sex appeal. They are all like "you have to spend big bucks to have that, because that is the american way".... I'd rather just go buy a genesis.
CRAZYSTOO 6 months ago
@CRAZYSTOO Genesis are expensive.
hell, im in korea and barely see them.
Hyundai did step up their game with the new 2011 models like the sonata and the avante, and they have some get up and go
SVD151k 5 months ago
ya that seems like a good idea....turn the car on and instantly mash the gas pedal to the floor multiple times. but it sounds fucking good.....this coming from a '94 cobra track car owner
longlive289s 6 months ago
Brap, Brap Brap..
CHewYue 6 months ago
this video is fake.
celeia2 7 months ago
@celeia2 yeh this guys right the car has no paneling how are we even meant to know its a car and not a unicorn i mean its not like it has wheels or anything
MrPhantompants 7 months ago
TLDN
jckgoldness 7 months ago
rotars have a funky sound but u gotta watch out cus they bite the road to bits
tozengetsu 8 months ago
People, re-read what he wrote. "Ford is the only decent American car manufacturer left." That is true but when they started the LSx projects it's become more reliable now. Back then it was all about the money. I would have been the same because capitalistic businesses doesn't care who it sells to but how much they actually make.
Subsw00fers 8 months ago
Rotors Rock!
strawberryalmonds 9 months ago
i love american muscle but the rotary is my only exception
odysseybmx17 9 months ago
I'm American, this is fucking awesome!!! I'm dumping my dream of a 900hp CTD for a rx7 and a 4 rotor.
HardBeforeLite 10 months ago 3
HUUUH HUUUH HUUUH HUUUH!!!!!
TheRealFobican 11 months ago
pussy ripper!
mojorossi 11 months ago
how much is this motor?
sof1map 11 months ago
you sir, need better engine mounts :D otherwise, very very nice.
rofLopolous 1 year ago
F
ME
silleywilley 1 year ago
lmfao sounds like an inline 4 superbike,nice!
justdan447 1 year ago
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wwwtotalitaerde 1 year ago
is alive.... ALIVE
dob3rman100 1 year ago
sounds like i just walked into a tire center! love it!
korndog59 1 year ago
same pointless comments on every video of a japanese car that could smoke 90% of american crap on wheels.
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!
f20a4bb9 1 year ago
@f20a4bb9 Thank you for contributing yet another useless ignorant comment
FTBoogie 1 year ago
@FTBoogie well, you are doing the same with your comment over mine actually.
so thank you, +1.
f20a4bb9 1 year ago
@f20a4bb9 Im sorry, could you please rephrase that in a sentence that actually makes sense? I dont speak retard.
FTBoogie 1 year ago
@FTBoogie but you surely are one.
planning on another constructive comment? dont, please.
f20a4bb9 1 year ago
@f20a4bb9 No, you have outwitted me with your superior intellect. Congratulations.
FTBoogie 1 year ago
rotary rules same displacement from factory n breacking all kids of records of those who up in displacement. 1.3 n1.2l lol love it
turbofb24 1 year ago
i thought i just heard my grandmas rice grinder... huh w/e
TheTalonTsi 1 year ago
i would like to see it do a run of any kind...drag...street race...just a simple run w/e i betcha its a pretty sweet ride
catnipfever22 1 year ago
sounds like an impact wrench haha.
lookatmygrlyfont 1 year ago 4
I put a 20B in my old 1st gen RX-7 and i loved it. Out of a Cosmo. Thing was fast. Good luck on your build.
NightTurkey82 1 year ago
wow that thing was revving quick and such a nice sound to it.
sk8tildeath91 1 year ago
whats the wrapping on the engine?
rx7dren 1 year ago
Sounds like a freakin super bike. haha
NICE!
Danspeed3 1 year ago
LOL @ all the cakes commenting
420rogerz 1 year ago
First time start and you rev'd it like that.....
ITELADZ 1 year ago
gas powered air tool. lmao
superfunnyman123 1 year ago
there is a little midget monster in there rumbling around and sneezing.
xJ3R3M14Hx 1 year ago
that is not a 4 rotor.
superbad1982 1 year ago
@superbad1982 lol it is... google "Scoot 4 rotor" its real all right. Its also not that hard to do.. all that was changed is the eccentric shaft.. its basically like 2 13bt engines sandwiched.
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hi, my name is eddie and i hope i found someone here, that want to buy my 1993 R1 RX7 all black, 5sp... i hate to sell it,... f...! or trade..! run out of money, but i have to sacrifice this sport car...you can text me at 011-52(618)186-0939 thanks and have a great day INDIANAPOLIS IN,
r1yamaha2009 1 year ago
OMG...i NEED one of those!
plumbicblimp 1 year ago
soound's like a f1
wankeleo 1 year ago
@wankeleo Hell yeah thats the first thought when hearing this
pmanson0624 1 year ago
A lot of people don't know that GM bought the license to make rotaries bake in 1970. They were going to put them in the Corvette as a 5 rotor motor. Of course they scraped that Idea due to the gas consumption. At that time is when the gasoline crisis was just starting.
BigBakaJ 1 year ago
WTF!? sick i say
Tsihex 1 year ago
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MrVelozity 2 years ago
@MrVelozity Better at unintended acceleration into a tree, sure.
Ryoukun16 1 year ago
gas motorsports has a standard crank in a 2jz with 1800hp and its aussie built
germantoyota 2 years ago
the only downfall is the enjin life span, appart from that they act like a two stroke motorcycle..... POWERBAND!!! REV REV REV!!!
mick27vic 2 years ago
of what exactly? the R26B or rotary engines in general, if it rotary engines in general..
you are without a doubt, mis-imformed
DeadlySausage 2 years ago 11
@DeadlySausage its 4 rotor 2.6 liter
KLONIME1001 1 year ago
obviously none of you have been in or owned a rotary before, lmfao! whatever turns youse on :)
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The rotary is junk . Period.
aji8 2 years ago
Deadshit.
DeadlySausage 2 years ago
The onllyyy con with a wankel for the average tuner is that they're very expensive. One can easily get some simple power by drilling new holes and bulting in a GM LS series motor compared to a mazda wankel. But, I think the small blocks are no way near as cool.
wslx0195 2 years ago
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blah blah always the same shit homie if you love imports go to fucking japan if you live in america buy american i want you to see this video... Import Ricer's Suck Tuners VS American Classic Muscle Cars
pinga350 2 years ago
lol...
TarenGarond 2 years ago
lol Im all for american cars and I own an 86 rx7... whoo...
quit knocking the import market because they can outrun your ride when they have no pistons... not taking sides, but up against just about anything thats not top fuel, a 4 rotor will mop the floor with its piston driven counterpart...
.nuff said.
ahcompy 2 years ago 3
its nothing to get 1000hp out of a piston engine nowadays....not saying rotaries are bad but there are plenty of piston engines that will outrun them
savagexhaley14 2 years ago
How about the power curve? Reliability at higher rpm? Rpm limitations? Weight? Size? Lack of vibrations (None in comparison to a piston motor)? Volumetric efficiency? In racing, its thermal efficiency does not matter and torque is also out of the equation. Due to gearing and weight reduction in racing high torque demand is not necessary. If torque was necessary forced induction nets torque in folds. Also 1000hp is not as easy as you think. In comparison. What piston motors are you referring to?
e2emceesquared 2 years ago
1000hp is fairly easy out of a motor nowadays. the gm LS-series, toyota 2jz and the newer ford ohc motors come to mind. there are plenty of those motors making over 1000hp. a lot of times on the stock bottom end too. piston motors can rev high too. look at nascar motors, they will pull 10k rpm for 4 hours straight. there are also old chevy small blocks that will rev to 11-12k rpm. not stock obviously, but there are ones that will do it. even the stock bottom end in my monte will rev to 7k rpm
savagexhaley14 2 years ago
I never said it wasn't easy. It's just not reliable. Also 2jz, LS3,6,7,9's, are not reliable at 1000hp ranges. LS series considering they're aluminum blocks now sucks and the 2jz or 1jz can only run at 630hp to 700hp reliable. Mostly due to still using Iron blocks, but the newer 2jz's are aluminum too. My bestfriends dad used to turn 8k with his old Nova II in the late 70's. It also helped that he had his own performance shop too.
e2emceesquared 2 years ago
no it is reliable. there are plent of ls-series, j-series and ford ohc motors making over 1000hp on stock bottom ends...a lot of them are street cars
savagexhaley14 2 years ago
Now what is your definition of stock bottom ends and reliability?
e2emceesquared 2 years ago
there are also many supras with waaay over 1000hp on the bottom end.
savagexhaley14 2 years ago
@savagexhaley14 and most supras are dyno queens that run like 12 in the 1/4 mile lol
infinite7z 2 years ago 2
ya some of them are but some of them arent. there's one around here that makes almost 700rwhp and it only runs 7.4 in the 1/8 which is about 11.5 in the 1/4. a 700rwhp car should be a lot faster than that
savagexhaley14 2 years ago
gearing bro all about gearing
thebadone1986 1 year ago
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gas motorsports has a standard crank in a 2jz with 1800hp and its aussie built
germantoyota 2 years ago
this is very true my friend. only pro that rotaries have over piston engines after they hit high hp is power to displacement/weight. on the other-hand...one little flaw on ANY of the internals and boom. lmao
ahcompy 2 years ago
I hate people like you who are all "hardcore american" and will never admit when something not american is cool or good. Get over it, GM especially make cheap cars for the masses with no inspiration and flare. Ford is the only decent American car manufacturer left, they didnt take any bail out money and they even made money recently, like a company should. GM cars are junk b/c the the malibu is the same as ____ for another GM brand. They just put a diff body on the same car! cmon, lazy...
custom240sx 2 years ago 103
Ford being decent? their cars cant stay together...
Triple88a 2 years ago
@custom240sx I like how you combated ignorance with ignorance.
DemoFly 1 year ago
@custom240sx im with you on that one. that car doesnt even sound good enough to be an impact wrench putting tires on a ford!
Tjw5050 1 year ago
@custom240sx even ford does that. they share platforms with mazda. nissan does that with infinity. toyota lexus. all companys do it. its cheeper its nothing new to share platforms.
camaroSYChevelle 1 year ago
@custom240sx except mustangs are a shitty excuse for a sports car... Ford makes money of their trucks.
gund3rt 1 year ago
@custom240sx i completely agree i love my fc not to mention the rotary is so good that its the only engine to ever be mass produced and not use pistons...and not many people know but gm at 1 point was going to make a rotary corvette a 2 rotor and a 4 rotor and awfully big rotors would have been very fast but people didn't like it so it got dropped after the 2nd auto show it went to
durtled 1 year ago
@custom240sx Ford Lincoln Mercury.
Hey what about Dodge? If you start trashing Dodge/Jeep too I lose ALL respect for you. GMC Chevy vehicles are the only GMCs I'd buy anyhoo, my mothers '95 Suburban is still worth over 8 grand because of it's condition and the oil cooled tow package... Everything about it but gas mileage and maybe speed kicks modern SUVs in the rear... interior and electronics included, all stock (not to mention the welded steel body welded onto a welded steel frame.
killbotexe 1 year ago
@custom240sx i'm not a hardcore american car enthusiast but they have no money to re-engineer another car, i mean its hard coming up with different versions of almost every car for like 3 or 4 manufacturers AND making a profit. nissan's only got 2, toyota's got 3 and most marques only have to R&D for one brand. you're also wrong: toyota and honda make cheap cars for the masses too, and toyota is the boring one, they have no sports cars in their line up.
carsnwomen91 1 year ago
@carsnwomen91 Well, you got the Economy Sports car, the tC. And who could afford a sports car in this day? Rich as hell arrogant people.
Ryoukun16 1 year ago
@carsnwomen91 toyota owns lexus who make the LFA super car. which might i add is very sexy sports car!
koltscats 1 year ago
@koltscats you got me there, but toyota doesn't know how to market a high performance vehicle. MR2 left and so did the supra. the LFA is way to expensive for what it offers, i mean i doesn't even have a dual clutch tranny :/ its still amazing though. I'm hoping the LFA was an engineering experiment, a sort of intro before toyota starts making exciting affordable sports cars.
carsnwomen91 1 year ago
@custom240sx uh....ford does the same thing...Ford Explorer = Mercury Mountaineer...Ford Taurus = Mercury Sable...yeah its stupid...GM, Ford, Dodge ETC, they all build GREAT cars and Trucks...and then they also make SHIT cars and trucks...Not just americans do this...everyone has this same concept...if all cars were PERFECT...we wouldnt be able to afford to drive them
MommyBird10 11 months ago
@custom240sx I agree with most of this statement, but Ford does the same thing with Mercury and Lincoln; same car but different body.
redvision350 10 months ago
@redvision350 nothing wrong with that, it saves money. Mazda is putting the next gen MX5 and the RX9 on the same chassis as it is going to be extremely strong as well as light. The sad part is that GM is still losing money using this cost saving method.
JD0x0 10 months ago
@custom240sx I just really hope you don't think all American's are like that... Because I'm an American and I have a very open mind about cars. Just like you hate those ignorant hardcore american fans, I hate being pre-judged for being an american.
p10ghost 10 months ago 9
@custom240sx STFU FAGGOT go drive your econobox honda and go get good gas mileage or something
mastaajbomb 9 months ago
@mastaajbomb lol mad redneck
MrWimz 9 months ago
@MrWimz roar
mastaajbomb 9 months ago
@custom240sx Yeah, GM has to be the worst of the American car brands. I think the only real, lasting credit they have to their name is their pick-up trucks & SUVs, which may last for a while, but even if they do, they're USUALLY covered in rust, or absolutley hoarding fuel without a justifiable amount of power output to compensate. Infact, most of the fuel seems to go to making horrible noises...
seth570123 6 months ago 2
@custom240sx You are joking right? Ford took more money than GM and Chrysler combined from private investors. In no way am i defending GM because GM is pure shit, but you gotta admit that the High end Chrysler products such as the 300c,Viper,etc are good. =P
PrinceKilborne 5 months ago
@custom240sx im an american lover .. i own an Evo 9 FQ-400 and a '71 Dodge Challenger and i admit that in some points My Evo Is Better Then The Challenger .. ;)
DubTrinity 5 months ago
@custom240sx holden vxr8 or holden clubsport owned by gm but built in Australia
BlackJewFish 5 months ago
@custom240sx GM may make cheap cars but they led the world in fuel economy with power..way before it was cool...way back when Japanese Auto makers were still trying to figure out how we did it. It's not our Fault the CEO's of GM are a bunch of greedy unethical business men. My old man worked for GM from 1950 to 1995 he always said that the GM executives were/are the greediest of them all. Hell GM made electric cars back in the 60's that never went to production. Ford makes worse cars than GM
greenmarine5 5 months ago
And if i wanted a car that was old technoligy i would buy a 10 year old + used car and save a lot of money. I am not a rotory head either i used to own an rx-8 and i am glad i got rid of it bad gas milage and no power but oh well. Still ran everyday with out any problems. cant say that about my friends S10 or girlfriends Malibu.
custom240sx 2 years ago
@custom240sx lol yeah the mazda rx for the lighthearted ... Maybe try a twin or single turbocharged model then complain? Cutsom 240sx? You have a s13 with the shittest engine ever produced my Nissan... Sr or Ca all the way not you KA you fool
djresche87 1 year ago
@djresche87 actually i had this account made when i was a lot younger and had a 240sx that ran 12.5:1 c/r on 110 leaded race gas. Why by an older turbo rx7 then have to spend a lot of money upgrading the cooling system to run reliably. I am done messing around with cars to drive everyday on the street.
custom240sx 1 year ago
sure you are an idiot, look at their sales. They are not making money, and i am glad. They have been selling piece of shit cars for so long now and its finally catching up with them. Have you ever sat in a corvette? The interior is made of hard cheap feeling plastic, and the worksmanship is less than what you would find on a euporean car or most Lexus, Infinity type cars. Cadillacs are also plagued by this lack of quality. They just make cheap cars.Its fine but dont act like they are special
custom240sx 2 years ago
and you also cant defend them, they took all that money and got a "bail out," and they are still hemorrhaging money, and cant sell any cars.
custom240sx 2 years ago
and the only reason why american v8's seem reliable is because they have been in production since forever and they have most of the kinks worked out. BTW that means you are paying money for a 30 year old lump of out dated engineering. For the amount of engineering you get you should pay at most like $10,000 for any GM product. Even the new engines still use push rod V8's, cmon... Maybe thats why they cant make any money they need to go out of business, need to stop rewarding bad companies
custom240sx 2 years ago
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GM makes plenty of OHC engines and have been making them at least since the 60s. I see we have another moron on the rotary vids. I didn't see that one coming....honest....LOL.
They still use pushrod engines due to their small packaging, and good overall power. They power two GM supercars the Z06 and the ZR1 which stomps all over the import exotics costing hundreds of thousands more. You are a complete idiot and need some education.
aji8 2 years ago
not true, 4 rotors are actually very reliable because they are basicly to stock 13b motors put together. There is a video on youtube of one that is running pump gas making 500 HP and he has made little modifications to the actual motor ( aside from sticking 2 of them together ). They dont run turbos so many of the problems the 13b turbos had are not present.
custom240sx 2 years ago
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Once again this is a junk engine that will need frequent rebuilds
aji8 2 years ago
your just plan being dumb its a N/A rotary built by a very good shop. its making huge numbers and has been used as a track car, and a top speed car and has been running fine for years.
v8killa09 2 years ago
LOL..and you have proof of this. NO you don't . Another rotard liar!
aji8 2 years ago
I am sure the shop did a good job, but it doesn't matter who built it, it won't last. The Wanker engine is a poor design from the get go.
aji8 2 years ago
your retarded hmmm lets take a look o yeah the Mazda 787B ran in the 24 hour lemans series not only did it kill everything in its class but it did it with a 2.6L engine.and guess what the motor is still running fine when they take it to track meets and the car has been around since 1990. so proof if its built right it will last and you keep talking shit. but what the hell do you dive im pulling on a V6 mustang with flames on it.
v8killa09 2 years ago 3
dude your such an idiot the motor has 3 moving parts how can that be more complicated than a reciprocating motor. They are unreliable sometime because people take a stock 13b turbo and put big turbos on them and not upgrade fuel system and cooling like they should have.
custom240sx 2 years ago
I never said the internal of the motor is complicated. However all of the supporting systems make the engine complicated. Look at the engine bay of a fuel injected rotary. A piston engine is a lot easier to support and very easy to assemble.
aji8 2 years ago
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They are unreliable due to their inherent design. Quit making owners the scapegoat of a poor engine.
aji8 2 years ago
@aji8 a bad worksmen always blames his tools =) nuff said
clutch23q 2 years ago
ok no substitute for cube v8s are one thing but i wouldent bag a rotary just another way of looking at engines they are soft but still offer good power they say that rotarys are perfect for hydrogen because of the way it combusts one thing is for sure they hate low octane fuel premium or better
bigballlllsofun 2 years ago
you know why rotor got banned from F1 racing? piston engine are already loser so dun be talking sh;t about rotor engine until u get ur hand on one of these
azndragonx2 2 years ago
that sound gave me an orgasm, lol
chagunwoonsahrham 2 years ago
i made a ringtone out of this
buhrrito 2 years ago
true azn. most motors sound like there gonna break when they rev high. rotor engines love that shit.
doluck2100 2 years ago
I wonder if they could do a 6 rotor dual 20b? ^_^
TyLiermann 2 years ago
well probly u could but u would have to do alot of fab and 1 of parts to make that work
akademiks604bc 2 years ago
you would just need a longer crank arm and slap two 3rotor engines together
Quentonwall 2 years ago
Im an engine rebuilder and nothing is impossible, but you would have to create a very high tech encentric shaft we heaps of counterweights and what not to stop the thing snapping. but imagine that the 40b haha what animal of an engine
rm125madman 2 years ago
It would just be a 40B. V12 power. only lighter, may even be unstable lol.
Advandestromath 2 years ago
leave ur car at 8k rpm and this engine at 8k rpm ur engine will plown first and this engine will outlast any of ur ass
azndragonx2 2 years ago 2
Hehe, Apex Seals.
gullf1sk 2 years ago
It sounds like a 1/8 Nitro Buggy.
proct0r 2 years ago
no F1 biotch
paulbutkiss 2 years ago
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Another vid or junk. That engine won't last
aji8 2 years ago
no one forcing you to look asshole
Lennholm89 2 years ago 9
your an idiot
jpmwilson 2 years ago 2
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LOL...and you are a moron.
aji8 2 years ago
you spend all your time going around youtube bagging rotaries and telling people they should put a V8 boat anchor under the hood of an RX7?. By doing that you will ruin one of the better handling cars that you can buy. If you want a car thats rwd quick in a straight line that can also handle corners well, then you leave the rotary in it. If youre only after straight line speed and you want a boat anchor under the hood? then buy a corvette
jpmwilson 2 years ago
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You are a fool if you believe half of what you post. The rotary is obsolete, and a poor design. It has iron housings and is heavier than you think.
aji8 2 years ago
The housings are aluminum, and the end plates are iron. You are the fool for posting your ignorance.
Soarer882002 2 years ago 2
most people can pick up a 13b block by themselves with no assistance, unless your a gorilla i think you will struggle with the v8. As for the rotary motor being obsolete, the moter is still only 60 years from being on the drawing board. four stroke motors have been around for over one hundred years. Go back 40yrs and you will find the conventional four stroke was not as reliable as it is today.
jpmwilson 2 years ago
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You keep thinking that the rotary is not obsolete. LOL..right now it can't even keep up with the competition where soon most sport coupes with have over 300 h.p. Even Hyundai is over 300.
Try that with a 13BREW or a 20 or 26B.
They get very heavy.
Ls1 block is very light and you can pick it up.
aji8 2 years ago
The series 8 rx7 was producing the japanese limit for engine power (206kw)back in 1998. Put a decent exhaust intercooler on any rx7 and 300hp atw is very easy to achieve, without any engine modifications. Spend a bit more money on an extended port with 3mm seals and say a garret 3582r with a bigger fuel pump and secondary injectors and you will have over 400hp@tw on about 18psi boost, all relliable if you look after it.
jpmwilson 2 years ago
and tell me how reliable was the average 4 stroke 40 - 50 years ago? A lot of people would consider the rotary motor to still be in the early stages of development compared to a conventional motor. Not obsolete at all. If everybody thought like you we would probably all still be travelling around by horse and cart
jpmwilson 2 years ago
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Very reliable compared to the rotary. That is why the rotary is very rare compared to the piston. Once again you can't handle the logic.
aji8 2 years ago
I dont think so, 150,000k was considered to be good. Its only in the last twenty or so years that a conventional 4 stroke motor has begun to outlast the chassis of the vehicle that it is in. And thats a low stressed motor, and the more highly tuned the motor the less reliable it becomes.
jpmwilson 2 years ago
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Too bad no rotary makes it that far. My car was on its second before I bought it at 140K.
If you think the old SBC and Ford engines from the 60s (older than your 20 years) didn't make it past the 150K mark, you are a fool.
aji8 2 years ago
sounds like you bought a lemon. But the linkage between the drivers seat and the steering wheel also has a lot to do with it, if you dont look after it it wont look after you.
jpmwilson 2 years ago
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The rx series of car must be a big big bushel then, since all the engines are destined to ruin.
aji8 2 years ago
no engine lasts forever! not even your precious ls1. You cannot compare a rotory to your average toyota corolla which will do over 400000 k's. If the rotor put out the same power/capacity as your average v8 it you might see it doing 400000k.
Its just not everybody likes an asthmatic V8
jpmwilson 2 years ago
still trawling the depths of youtube? nice fella, just got my 13b in the TR7, i love it! no V8 so it still goes around corners properly!
mikeyTR7 2 years ago
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LOL...and you are slow. Enjoy your slowness. I can put a weedwhacker engine in my car and claim light weight too, but at the end of the race I would lose. The rotary loses a lot.
aji8 2 years ago
you really dont get england do you, you might be able to run a V8 in the good old US of A! but not in england fella, and why are you talking about racing? i dont race? i made this car as a project and im pretty pleased with it, cos the TR weighs as much as a fart im getting 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, now thats not too slow at all :)
mikeyTR7 2 years ago
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Yeah well England is a poor example for anything. I am glad you are happy with your car. When the engine goes pop we will still be here for you.
aji8 2 years ago
if you dont like it aij8 then piss off
jpmwilson 2 years ago 2
england is a poor example for anything? racist aswell man? not very nice that is it, and when my engine goes pop? this car is only used to get me to college which is about a 3 mile round trip, dont think its gonna be going 'pop' any time soon bro
mikeyTR7 2 years ago
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They have good actors, being against a country is NOT racisist. Get your facts straight and quit using an over abused word idiot. You are correct about driving only 3 miles. No wonder that the engine has lasted this long. Don't worry, you are just postponing the inevitable. :)
aji8 2 years ago
haha whatever man! and i know im correct about driving only 3 miles? i really dont get you at all there, and the engine was only put in about 4 days ago, i love how you think you know my car better than me, and still no vids of your RX7 V8? im slowly starting to think it doesnt even exist, cos lets face it, if you really had this car you would put a video of it up, yes?
mikeyTR7 2 years ago
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The idea that you are not comprehending is a very simple one, no surprise there. If you barely drive the car, the engine will last much longer. That is why you don't have any problems. As far as my car not being one youtube, how do you know it isn't?
aji8 2 years ago
clicked your profile, no vids of it there, if you have a car like that you would have a video, simple, ive got a piece of crap TR7 and even i put videos up
mikeyTR7 2 years ago
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Funny, my Rx7 goes very well around corners. My car has a perfect 50/50 weight balance. You are really misinformed!
aji8 2 years ago
still no videos of it tho? thought not
mikeyTR7 2 years ago
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Why are you so intersted in my car? Are you wanting to see a car that can hand your car its ass using only my overdrive gears? I finally saw your car and it is pathetically slow. You were foolish to remove the original engine as you should have built that and turbocharged it or used the V8 that was put in the cars back in the day. Nice car itself, too bad you ruined it with that engine.
aji8 2 years ago
i just want to see this infamous RX7 V8, and yeah the standard engine was slow as you like, and the V8 is a good swap but it is a pain to get any decent power out of, as for the 2.0 it was slow to start with, i did add a few mods to it, new cam bore out etc etc, then that engine blew up on me one morning, hell maybe in a few weeks i'll drop another V8 in there, the rotary was only put in there to see if actually could be done, its fast yeah but i do fancy some 8 cylinder power atm.
mikeyTR7 2 years ago
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You are interested in a V8 now?
Good boy, at least you have shown some intelligence v.s. your moronic Australian and American counterparts.
aji8 2 years ago
never wasnt interested mate, its just the insurance, when i put in the 13b my insurance actually went down, trying to insure a V8 TR7 is gonna be a mission, the rover V8 would be more insurance friendly but eventually i would like an LT1, ah well thats not gonna be for a few years yet
mikeyTR7 2 years ago
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How does the INS company know what engine is in your car?
aji8 2 years ago
i told them, if i crash and its not the standard engine in the car i dont get paid, dont really want that tbh
mikeyTR7 2 years ago
Iron housings? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA not even the old ass 12A had iron in them. They've ALWAYS been made with steel and aluminum. Lol, you're so clueless that all I can do is laugh at your stupidity.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
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Steel is mostly iron you idiot!
Once again rotary guys are the most ignorant/
aji8 2 years ago
Steel is only 60% iron, smart guy, and MUCH lighter than cast iron, lol. I've worked for Oregon Steel Company, so I've already won this argument. Byebye now :)
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
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Keep laughing as you are an idiot if you think anybody believes that you work for a steel company. You got caught being an idiot and are now trying to save yourself not realizing that steel is made of iron. You are a true moron, and a liar.
FACT: Steel has iron in it. FACT: The rotary has iron in it. Old small block V8s have iron and are called iron blocks even though they are steel, and have other materials such as nickel.
aji8 2 years ago
You've already been proven wrong many times over about rotaries, and now you're being a bitch-ass hypocrite by talking shit and insulting instead of proving facts. Alright, fat child in his mommy's basement, you're done. It's over. Rotaries win, piston shitbox V8s lose. End of discussion.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
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The only place I have been proven wrong is in your feeble mind. That is the place where logic is thrown out the window, and rotarys reign supreme and are in every can on the planet. You can come back to Earth now.
Rotarys do NOT win. If they won, they would be in the majority of cars and not piston engines. YOU FAIL as did the worthless rotary engine.
aji8 2 years ago
Um, let's see NO they didn't catch on because they are expensive to maintain. Sorry you're so broke, faggot, but rotaries are faster than any piston engine. You're on silence, so SHH.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
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Catch on?
LOL...thanks for admitting what I have been saying on here all along. The rotary is garbage, it is unreliable and expensive to fix.
aji8 2 years ago
Shh.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago