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  • Cenk, 13th Amendment abolished slavery, not 14th or 15th.

  • And I wonder why they were so nice to their lame ass Savior?

  • its funny how people get offended when other people don't want to kill babies. and im pro-choice wtf

  • whoopi is commenting on mccain's founding fathers comment

  • Well he did say interpret it like the founding fathers did. Which did not involve those amendments... jackass...

  • Ron Paul 2012

  • who the hell writes these subtitles? They must be ESL O_O

    

  • @violentXcupcakes I don't think anyone wrote them, it's probably a sound capturing software.

  • man America is ruled by women, I'm happy we men still rule in Irak! Arabs FTW

  • @MadeinBaghdad Typical chauvinist muslim pig. Your land will forever be a shit hole because you Arab men are so intimidated by your women you have to dominate them in order to feel superior. So weak and pathetic you treat your dogs better than your women.

  • Shoosh!

  • Why is pro life a minority issue. Why have most people opinions on it been shaped by TV. Why are you demonized as a right wing religious nut if easy abortions make you uncomfortable?

    Its a strange world alright. As an agnostic person with no worship in my life, Im still not comfortable with abortion. I dont know why so many are. If you feel you have a soul, then so does a life growing in a womb. At what point does law determine "soul". to me its killing the defenseless, not a "bunch of cells".

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  • McCain has no personality..

  • As a non-American I can honestly say that Americans are retarted for not voting for Ron Paul.

  • this issue will NEVER be solved.... women have been aborting throughout history and always will. period.

  • I believe abortion should be an option, but I certainly don't agree that some slut should just run around fucking dudes and having an abortion every time she gets pregnant cuz she doesnt want a kid, of course not, that is very wrong.

  • @EmeraldIsleStar ......ok...its bad for a slut to have repeated abortions,thats a given...but whats the level of bad if she has the baby and treats it like shit? Its a complex issue....kids without moms/dads that love them life has been reduced,many kids dont get that back,they have heavy issues their whole lives.I dont actually believe folks really care because if they did they might actually try harder to make families work.

  • @EmeraldIsleStar Abortion is pretty expensive and sometimes painful, and an emotionally difficult thing to go through, so I really, really doubt that women would just do it for the fun of it. And women can sleep with who they choose, when they choose, and protection sometimes fails - no need for slut shaming. :)

  • There is an answer for the the issue of abortion. It is called a VASECTOMY...!

  • @xxyc21 I agree, it's always put on the woman and is told it's her fault and her responsibility. Well, if it really is a woman's responsibility since it's her body, then it's her right to do as she pleases with that pregnancy. Whether she chooses to drink to self abort, or throw herself down the stairs, or try and get rid of it with a coathanger, or tube methods, or having a safe and accurate proceedure, or have the child and raise it or put it up for adoption, then it's still her right :)

  • I'm so glad that this plastic pale face jerk is not the president. He's a real racist.

  • Well when the Constitution was written, the Founding Fathers declared that a black man counts as 3/5 of a white man. I think that was what Whoopi was referring to, and that IS an excellent point.

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  • fuck ron paul that assholes campaign literally calls me every other day.... leave me alone.

  • Ectogenesis, anybody?

  • Abortion is murder.Thats the bottom line.

  • @xxDogsoldierxx Abortion IS murder, and I thank you for your comment! Who gave women the right to decide whether a baby can live or die? This isn't about freedom to do what she wants with her body, this isn't like a boob job. Her body is acting as an incubator for that life. Would we say it's okay for a doctor to turn off the incubator and let a baby die? No. Should a woman decide that she can just kill the baby because she doesn't want it? No, no, no! This is a moral issue, not a freedom issue.

  • @JohnJancar Cancer is also living cell, should we stop treating it as well? Now, above two months it's pushing it as the heart is formed but before that it is just a pile of cells inside the woman's body which is comparable to cancer. A woman as every right to do what she wants with her body. It is her body and no one else. Many people are saying we are too many on this planet so why would abortion be a problem? How would you feel if someone tells you your body is no longer yours?

  • @xxDogsoldierxx Nah it's not. Next question.

  • No. He said he wanted the constitution interpreted like the founding fathers intended. She said if that were the case then people would have to worry about slavery. If you don't understand the clip then don't try to call the people stupid lol. John McCain did a fantastic job apologising straight away or he would have received a shit storm from people saying he endorsed slavery.

  • Really it should be Ron Paul 2012. I know he's not for abortions but at least he will give the power to the individual states to regulate abortion. Plus, unlike Obama he wont go and bomb the middle east and continue to wage useless wars like Libya.

  • when obama came on the view they asked him was whether he was related to brad pitt...

    i hate how one sided this country is. both republicans and democrats have their faults. its just annoying that the entertainment industry is so left wing

  • @from91till That's because left wing is the right wing. Left wing cares about the people and is about love and safety. Right wing is about money and power.

  • @Annnable again, what your saying is what the entertainment industry convinces us everyday. i can tell you watch alot of tv. the right wing represents hard-working people that don't want to pay taxes. the left wing represents people that want their success to be depend on tax money. not all republicans are rich. i know that you would like to believe that, or at least been convinced that its appropriate to be this ignorant,

  • It was the 13th Amendment that abolished slavery you idiot. And since there is no amendment for abortion, the power to decide if abortion would be legal should be left to the states. Just like the legality of marijuana should be left to the states. Latest poll, 63% of Americans believe weed should be legal but its not. Its because people like you want to give all the power to the federal government and make decisions for you so you can run your mindless show and spew imaginary facts.

  • Sorry dork, the Supreme Court's "job" is NOT TO INTERPRET the constitution--in as much as that means that any "ruling" from the supreme court on the "constitutionality" of something is the "last word." It is up to every American to know the Constitution and to be able to understand original intent, the principles upon which it was written, and take action appropriately. Just because the supreme court rules on something doesn't mean it is morally right or legitimate.

  • Unfortunately, as much as I love this channel, I feel like you missed why he agreed it would have exceptions like slavery, because he had just said that he thought the constitution should be judged based on how the founding fathers intended, not just "strictly". This would obviously leave out the amendments which countered slavery.

  • If Palin becomes president, the world is doomed.

  • Conservatives want alive babies so they can have dead soilders.

    ~George carlin

  • @PrinceOfPennsylvania Which is weird thinking that Ron Paul is a conservative.

  • Well said, well said, well said.

    What he means is that interpretted the constitution in a way that he wants it to be interpretted, i.e. a conservative way. When in fact, the whole foundations of the constitution are based upon liberalism i.e. breaking free from the chains of the past (the British government elite) and basing it upon fairness and democracy.

    I'm not American and I don't know the constitution myself but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if mccain didn't know the constitution.

  • The point is that amendments happen for a reason, and maybe it's time for one with this cause to be considered on a larger level. I don't think it's a stupid question at all, I think it's one that points out that change is still necessary.

  • I won't vote for a prolife candidate.

  • @libgirl420 They aren't prolife. They're anti-abortion. Many of these people support war and the death penalty. Like all politicians they use language to twist the meanings of their words to appeal to the voters' emotions instead of their intellect. The conservatives just do it more. Politicians are all full of shit, but Democrats and liberals are more likely to come out and admit it.

  • Obama 2012.

  • @Brenda2OOO Ron Paul 2012.

  • @IBloodSweatTears I second that, Ron Paul 2012...from a former Obama supporter

  • @Brenda2OOO Hell no.

  • @Brenda2OOO haha your funny

  • @Brenda2OOO Obama's a republican sell out

  • @Brenda2OOO doesn't matter who you vote for all the same people behind the scenes

  • @Brenda2OOO ron paul 2012 are you nuts?

  • @Brenda2OOO WTF? You for real? Obama is Bush only as a Democrat. Ron Paul 2012!

  • @semperFi4ever100 Ron Paul?? Are you insane?? OBAMA2012.

  • @syzygy502 OK, I won't argue for a libertarian candidate on a liberal channel, but couldn't you at least get another guy than Obama as the Democrats frontrunner? He has proven already that he's a sellout. And don't tell me he's had too little time, he was president four years long and hasn't fixed a thing. Lincoln got rid of slavery in four years! I mean, if the GOP really nominates Bachmann, normally, I'd just vote Democrat, but this time, with Obama, I'll probably rather shoot myself.

  • @semperFi4ever100 Why do you think that he's sold out? It's the media giving you bullshit about what's happened with the Congress. The republicans on the Supreme Court have successfully ditched this country and blamed it on the blacks and Democrats. 

  • @semperFi4ever100 You've just given me a good idea :D How about Obama does what Lincoln did to get things done quickly? Obama should just declare Martial Law and suspend the Writ of Habeas Corpus to get all the conservative and republican opposers out of the way (Like Lincoln did with Copperhead anti-war leaders and dissenters during the civil war) so Democrats can get all the bills they need to fix the economy through. Backfired on you, didn't it?

  • @Brenda2OOO :D

  • @Brenda2OOO Hahaha, wow, yeah, he's done such a bang up job. You and 77 others clearly have no idea what is going on in this world. He's a worse puppet than Bush. Until you people actually educate yourselves and clue in to reality, the US will continue to freefall. I'm not a fanboy and disagree with some of his views but even still, Ron Paul is the only honest and legitimate candidate for the people and what's left of country. Any semblance of change and hope you have depends on him.

  • Cenk, I'm sorry, but your response was below you. What she's referring to is the fact that there's an amendment process that's included IN the constitution. That alone proves the constitution was MADE to be changed (the way Slavery was revoked). Connect the dots man.

  • before the amendments, if we only kept it as it was, slaves would still be slaves, woopie is saying that sometimes we need to rethink things, just like the 13th amenment. Valid point. TYT misses the ball on this one

  • nice one.

  • @JMehrman I feel like Im not going to be worried about society after (god forbidde) some 12 year old who got rapped by her uncle is pregnant!! Abortion is a right that every WOMEN has. And that is not going to change.

  • CENK the amendment abolishing slavery was the THIRTEENTH amendment .You kept referring to the 14th and 15th amendment which were reconstruction era amendments with some relation to civil rights. When you make mistakes like that you sound as ridiculous as the people you're lampooning. I realize this is a really old video, however.

  • CENK the amendment abolishing slavery was the THIRTEENTH amendment .You kept referring to the 14th and 15th amendment which were reconstruction era amendments with some relation to civil rights. When you make mistakes like that you sound as ridiculous as the people you're lampooning.

  • 80% of all planned Parenthood locations are in or NEAR black neighborhoods, and the founder Margaret Sanger called blacks "human weeds." Hmmmmmm.

  • 70% of Americans want abortion to be legal? LIE.

  • @dfbhcf I can see that 70% of Americans want abortion legal, is it really so far-fetch'd?

  • @MaxMetal1993 If you look at several polls on abortion, the percentage of Americans that support legal abortion is just over 50% or 55%, if not lower (I remember seeing an article of a recent poll stating the percentage of Pro-Life Americans was slightly greater than Pro-Choice). Saying 70% of Americans support legal abortion is just a straight out distortion of facts. When it comes to abortion TYT is too biased and ignorant.

  • @dfbhcf No, they actually poll right, instead of standing outside of churches or richer, well-to-do neighborhoods and asking, or asking for numbers bought/paid for by the catholic church like most pro'life' organizations do. It's amazing what information you can come by when you aren't /paying/ for one specific result to be obtained. And even if the mjaorty is prolife, WGAS? They are not going to be FORCEd into doing anything they don't want to, like the women they would force into rape-slavery.

  • @ryddelwearsahat What do you think TYT does? In cases like abortion, they'll choose polls that best support their liberal point of view, such as the one Cenk mentioned in this video which is obviously inaccurate. If you look at dozens of polls on abortion, you'll that most of them show only 55% or 60% max that are pro-choice. 70% is absurd.

  • @dfbhcf I can't believe i'm using THIS as an argument, but.. did Obama, or did Obama, who is pro-choice, NOT win the election- the majority vote, while being pro-choice even to the degree of supporting late-term and PBA and the born-alive act? (all three, BTW, are reprehensible, as well as the president himself?) No, the majority is pro-choice.. it's just the prolifers who cuss and yell and make big fusses and march and protest like psychopaths, and make such a big drama. Attentionwhores.

  • @ryddelwearsahat Wow. You are so fucking hypocritical. "Pro Lifers who cuss and yell and make big fusses and march and protest like psychopaths". What the fuck do you think Pro-Choice people do? You ever heard of the March for Women's Lives? Both sides have marchers who cuss and yell so don't act like it's just Pro-Life people that do it.

    And Obama didn't get elected because of his view on abortion you fucking idiot. That was a minor issue of his campaign. Stop being so biased and ignorant.

  • @dfbhcf They march FR rights, pro'life'rs march AGAINST them, against freedom of speech, against freedom of/from religion, against sexual freedom, reproductive freedom, against even birth control most of the time- damn catholics. Check my channel comment- 'satan baby' 'ugly demon baby' 'exorcise your baby'.. thank a prolifer for that. The worst I've heard from prochoicers are the 'crunchy fetus' jokes and the occasional 'fuck god' bullshit. Not 'niggers gone wild' or the other BS.

  • @ryddelwearsahat Pro Life people march for fetal rights and the right to live. They don't march against freedom of speech, religion, or any of that bullshit you mentioned. They're not marching against anything except murder of living fetuses. I could say Pro-Choice people are marching for murder of babies, but I know they're not cause I'm not an extremely ignorant moron like you. I'm not gonna bother arguing with you cause you've already proven you're incapable of using logic in your argument.

  • @dfbhcf WOW. Wake up troll. You're asleep too long from listening to McCain.

  • @syzygy501 Who said I was listening to McCain? I don't like McCain, I'm just correcting Cenk's statement that 70% of Americans support abortion, which is obviously false.

  • @dfbhcf 70% of Americans do support abortion. It's not false.

  • @syzygy501 Oh really? Show me the document that proves that, and I'll show you dozens of other polls showing the support rate between 50 and 60%.

  • @dfbhcf Does it really matter whether it's 60 or 70%? Go to CNN.com and look up the abortion approval rating. Also, stop sending messages at 4 in the morning. That gives you a bad name.

  • @syzygy501 Yes, it does matter. 70% is significantly higher than 60%. It also matters because it's completely false statistic that manipulates people to believe that an overwhelming majority of the country supports abortion, which is obviously not true. And maybe you should stop sending messages at 2 in the morning if you don't want me to respond a couple hours later. That gives you a bad name.

  • @dfbhcf I don't send messages at 2 in the morning. I am asleep. Let's see 19-15=4. 19-19=11:30-12:00. Shut the hell up. Go to CNN.com and it clearly says 68%. It is true. You will change your ideas.

  • @syzygy501 that means 68% of the people who participate in CNN's survey if they did it or whatever the sample is.... if FOX news took a poll it would be way different... according to FOX sarah pallin won the VP debate by a landslide but she lost in all the others...stats can be skewed so very very easily

  • @MrFoodismylife So let me get this straight? An 11 year old girl gets raped and dies from the pregnancy. The baby is stillborn. Now, the guy who did it can walk free because they have no physical evidence but could have if it were a murder trial. YOU ARE A SICK COWARD. Abortion is a right, not a privilege. Idiots like you need to get the fuck out of America. 2 out of 3 people support abortion. Get over it. Republicans lost and will not come back in power again.

  • @syzygy501 wtf are you talking about? i was referring to you statisical assertion that 68% percent of americans are for abortion not about the issue itself...the questions could have been leading...and unfortunately republicans will come back topower and not over abortion but tons of other issues that the dems fail on...then the dems will regain their power once people forget and get pissed the rep again...a guy on MSNBC said america was 60% conservative and 25% liberal...so reps are coming back

  • @xtelemasterx you are my new best buddy!

  • the view is a cesspool of liberal brainwashing. the one conservative on the show probably can't even spell her name, and it is conveyed to the audience of confused, middle-aged female sheep that conservatives are a bunch of rednecks who think gays should be exterminated and blacks would serve greater purpose out tilling the fields. people are stupid.

  • Go back to Turkey crazy liberal.

  • There's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't get an abortion to save your life. All of you who are anti-abortion have been reported and are traitors to the female gender

  • WELL, ROE VS WADE SHOULD BE OVERTURNED BECAUSE IT WAS BASED ON LIES AND FABRICATIONS, CHECK OUT DR. BERNARD NATHANSON'S CONFESSION!

  • cenk, im sorry but you are the one not gettin it. if we have a strict interpretation of the constitution as the founding fathers had wanted we wouln't have the 14th amendment. so i guess it's you who should be doing the shusshin.

  • @AuDacitYofTruTh Exactly what do you base that off of?

  • um....he wanted to interpret it as the founding fathers had it. um slavery was still there. You have no idea what you're talking about

  • Cenk, the question is... would strict constitutionalism have lead to amendments that were responses to the slavery issue? Whoopi was saying <<Would strict constitutionalism have been good back then BEFORE those amendments? If not, why should strict constitutionalism be desirable in this day and age?

  • I don't think Cenk understands what the word, "amendment," means.

  • @wschwab0 I can tell your a non pubescant 12 year old...

  • @wschwab0 well... but they don't PRETEND to be politicians like she does. They are actors, or just some random stars that talk about anything. I don't watch shows like the view because I think they are boring. But its a talk show. Thats it. Its a talk show. They don't run for office. Its a talk show. Get it? I'll say it again. It's a talk show. Get over your 12 year old self. Growing hair around your penis was hard on all of us. You'll make it! Believe in yourself!

  • From the conservative fringes it began as a trickle of brains bashing, then grew into a powerful anti-intellectual current that now flows through the American political right like the mighty Missisippi. The code word is "elite"; the meaning clear: If you're smarter than us, we ain't interested. Is THAT the America Americans want?

    Sarah Palin is the poster child for an ignorant, dogmatic Animal Farm Utopia, where virtues are sins and narcissism masquerades as piety. Wake up, America!

  • @schlummieleinchen

    McCain is hardly the conservative fringe.

  • @BenjaminWirtz McCain is a bizzare product of a desperate determination to "stay in power".

    McCain's slip from center right to extrme right is due to his paranoya about no longer being relevant. He is right about the relevant part, but he won't give up his "seat" for someone more capable.

    McCain is a paranoyed old fool who never had "it" to begin with. A poor scholar and juding by his most recent political moves, a profoundly flawed human being.

  • @schlummieleinchen

    I don't think his shift was genuine and as you mentioned and can be seen here, he really doesn't understand how the Constitution works.

  • @schlummieleinchen

    You're right! Since when was it bad for a politician to have a shred of intelligence?

  • @schlummieleinchen really and your basis is?

  • @Frankcastle522 my basis is that 10 people agree with me, and none with you.

  • @schlummieleinchen really so your straw man argument is an appeal to popularity than? Well when you actually have some factual evidence not based on sweeping generalizations message me back.

  • I really hate your videos. I click on one under the Suggestions tab, hoping to see the clip, but then having to sit through your stupid intros.

  • I think the judicial branch in America has been given way too much power!

  • @VoiceOfModeration That's because they don't subscribe to political doctrine or bullshit, and thus piss you off when they violate your limited worldview's philosophy and do so with full legal power, while the politicians you believe every word from have no power to undo it, because no way are they going to amend the Constitution over this stuff.

    Read the Constitution and read history. Judicial Review is what stopped Congress from making the Presidency obsolete. Without it, we'd be like England.

  • @Xizor159 We know the history. (Just a tip for your future when you engage with other interlocutors, never assume they're ignorant just because they disagree with you. That says more about you then the things you're saying). But because that's the history, doesn't mean it has to stay that way. Precisely because they're always just mending the constitution and destroying the country!

  • @VoiceOfModeration Actually, they've only Amended (not just "mended") the constitution 27 times since 1787...that's an average of once every 8.2 years, and when you figure the first 10 of those 27 are the Bill of Rights, it's really only an average of once every 13 years, which is less than once a generation. Not to mention, some changes came in clumps, such as the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments abolishing slavery.

    I assumed you're ignorant because you are. Destroying the country? You high?

  • @Xizor159 You're so brainwashed you think I'm brainwashed. That's how the leftwing propaganda machine does it, it embeds itself. It's the biggest joke of all time. Please turn your skeptical, hypercritical scope on your own worldview. Because you're just being totally guided by your ideology, your partisanship, your liberalism. You have made it clear that you have no respect for people who feel differently about things then you do; you SIR! are the intolerant one! you sir are the ignoramus!!!!!!

  • well, if you can mock God, and christians, I guess anything goes, huh?

  • Does anyone know that it says in the bible that a baby isn't alive untill it takes it's first breath? IT'S NOT KILLING A BABY EITHER WAY,

  • @loststudiosINC Does anyone know that not everyone believes in the bible because it has so many contradictions. I don't base my life on a book, I follow my life based on my heart and my heart says that killing a baby is horrible.

  • I do think ahuman being comes into existance at the moment of fertilization of the egg and thatis from a completely scientific point of view; however the hardships endured by women that become parents not by choice are terrible enough that abortion should be legal... any opinions on this opinion?

  • YEAH, OK! LOL, and your valueable arguement about abortion is.......? You talked about political views and homosexuality, and that is sticking to the subject? I talked about facts, of how abortion laws were passed, from the words of Dr. Nathanson himself. How is that confusing? This is the debate, so go pick another site to display your homosexual arguement, I don't give a shit that your gay or not, not my problem!

  • If homosexuality is a choice, please explain to those of us with a little more common sense what da hell the INSENTIVES are?

    What are the BENEFITS to the homosexual for making that choice?

    What would POSSESS anyone who could just as easily be HETEROSEXUAL to choose being gay?

    If it's possible to just "choose" which you want to be, why has there never been a HETEROSEXUAL who demonstrated how easy it is to just GO GAY? Why has there never been a GAY demanding of YOU to be what you're not?

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  • @schlummieleinchen who cares, I think your a fucking wack job, this site is about abortion, not if your gay or not. Stick to the topic ass wipe!

  • @schlummieleinchen there are other sites for your gay and bible debates, but not on this site. I take it, you just like to argue for the sake of arguing. try using conviction!

  • @carmel350 I guess you're not here tO "discuss', but rather to IGNORE the facts presented by others, and just babble on about unimportant, petty or trivial BS.

    You are not a contributor, You offer nothing hopeful or helpful. Your purpose is to confuse, distract and discredit. You should be ashamed,because you offer NOTHING of value, and attack those who DO.

  • If you want minimum wage to be low, then YOU work for it! Stop demanding sacrifices of OTHERS, so you and your fat ass get fatter. Unless you're willing to SHARE the pain, stop asking others to carry the whole load while you whistle Dixie.

    Stop being such God damn selfish bastards. How do you live with yourself?

    Republicans have poisoned the minds of the masses, making them believe selfishness is cute. Be ashamed. Christians? Are you fu@king KIDDING me? Satan is YOUR God, you assholes!

  • @schlummieleinchen WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU RAMBLING ABOUT?

  • @schlummieleinchen WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU RAMBLING ABOUT? I am not republican nor democrat, fact is, I am a Canadian, and I vote for the Green Party, so STFU!

  • @schlummieleinchen Satan is not a God, God is God. Satan, is trying to destoy God's people, so whoever supports abortion, is the devil's best friend. So, enjoy your free will......LOL

  • @carmel350 You know absolutely NOTHING about Christianity, the Bible or anything written therein.

    The Bible speaks of MANY gods (even money and food), but only one true God. If you failed even that most elementary lesson, you certainly can not "discuss" the Bible.

    I have actually READ the Bible (all of it), which I am quite sure you have not.

    Stop demanding satisfaction in a duel for which you are armed with spit balls, while your opponents have selected state of the art weapons.

  • @schlummieleinchen DON'T REMEMBER TRYING TO DISCUSS THE BIBLE, SO JUST DROP IT! yOUR RIGHT, i HAVE NEVER READ THE BIBLE, YOUR POINT!  yOU DON'T NEED TO READ THE BIBLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL IS, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS ABORTION, NOT THE BIBLE THAT SO MANY PEOPLE MISINTERPRET. SO, IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE ABORTION, AND NOT POLITICS OR THE BIBLE, FEEL FREE TO DROP A LINE OR TWO.

  • "WHEN FASCISM COMES TO AMERICA IT WILL BE WRAPPED N THE FLAG AND CARRYING A CROSS" Sinclair Lewis

    Take care and beware Palin lovers, you might get what you ask for.

  • @Chelsea4President Who is a Palin lover, because if I love Palin, then you love Hitler!

  • Nobody, needs sex to survive! Sex is not a right it is a priveledge, and should be used in the way it was intended, for procreation. What don't any of you idiots understand? If you choose to take your chances, knowing how apparently inaffective birth control products are, then deal with the consequences, and do not kill an innocent life for your own pleasure!!!!

  • if male were able to become pregnant we would have abortion drive trus

  • I want no Christian Theocracy or a government run for and by the big corporations, or a police state where the "wrong kind of people" are routinely asked for their papers or told they are not equal.

    I don't like the idea of millions dying needlessly for lack of proper health care.

    You might say I'm not ready to surrender to a Christo-Nazi Dictatorship.

    Candidates like Sarah Palin are just not a realistic answer to today's issues.

    Liberty and Justice for ALL AMERICANS!

  • @Chelsea4President well, who do all you horny people who cannot keep your legs closed, blame for your sexually transmitted diseases then, because, you must have them given the 'Fact' THAT condoms don't work. I'm sick of living in a materialistic world, and a ME, ME, ME, society!

  • @Chelsea4President second of all, this isn't about you! This is about snuffing out the most vulnerable human beings. For a fucken romp in the sack with someone who doesn't give a shit about you! Before anybody has sex, just know, that you can get pregnant! If you are willing to risk that for pleasure, them shame on you if you cannot be adult enough to live with your concequences!

  • @Chelsea4President" IN GOD WE TRUST" written right there on your American Money! So maybe you should move to China!

  • @Chelsea4President Even your President believes in God. So pack your things and move!

  • @Chelsea4President Are Americans human beings? Because, so are the unborn children of those American's!

  • @carmel350 Are the TWO MILLION unemployed who were told by 100% of Republicans in Congress to "go to hell" just before Christmas human beings?

    How about the 9/11 responders suffering permanent health issues from their heroic actions on that tragic day? Are THEY human beings?

    Stop defending the EVIL and the SELFISHNESS of people who are the supporters of all that is NOT Christian and NOT American.

    There are countless Christian Republicans who have the CASH and DO get their abortions abroad!

  • @schlummieleinchen Don't have a fucken clue what you are responding too. For one thing, I am not an American. Second thing does any of this have to do with the abortion issue?

  • @carmel350 It has more to do with HYPOCRISY. Right wing "Christians" seem to have the monopoly on that!

  • Just do your research on Roe vs Wade, how the decision was based on fabrications and lies. Dr.Nathanson, was an abortion activist, and who founded N.A.R.A.L., he fabricated numbers to sway the public decision so the law would pass. He has confessed to doing so, and after performing over 70,000 abortions in his career, and joining the feotology research department, has now turned pro-life. He realizes that they were in fact human beings!

  • @carmel350 I care about this, why? The reason for my abortion was legitimate, and I'd see 100,000 abortions- even UNNECESSARY ones, in place of even one woman or ACTUAL child suffering what i or my mother did just to make some stranger who CLAIMS to care happy. A fetus is not a person, just human meat in it's earliest stages of development. It is meaningless compared to an actual person, a woman.

  • @ryddelwearsahat there is no legitimate reason to kill an innocent child. you killed your baby! Now yo mst answerto God, wo creatd that child in the image of himself. A human being is a human being no matter how small. That child is not meaningless, and every person ever created has a reason to be here, it's not up to you to decide.

  • @carmel350 Fetus and baby are not the same thing, lol. Read a dictionary. God is not real, and you sound rediculous. Also, a fetus cannot be innocent nor guilty b/c it lacks all ability to be malevolent or benevolent. THIS is why aobrtion legal- god is a joke, pro'lif'rs lie, and science and medical facts reign supreme.

  • @ryddelwearsahat SAD FOR YOU, THE WAY YOU THINK, IT'S NOT IMPORTANT IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT GOD KNOWS YOU, AND YOU WILL SUFFER THE CONCEQUENCES OF YOUR MURDEROUS ACTIONS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE! aND A FETUS IS A HUMAN BEING, ACCORDING TO SCIENCE AND MEDICAL FACTS, CHECK OUT THE STUDY OF FEOTOLOGY, YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING!

  • @carmel350 ..lol screaming in all caps just makes you look even stupider. I don't choose to believe- I LOST faith years ago. A fetus is a human, but not a human BEING- learn english and get a better education of DEFINITION AND CONTEXT.

  • @ryddelwearsahat Yeah, that's smart, focusing on grammer, or the fact that I used "CAPS' , anything to take the focus off the tuth! P.S. A zygote, fetus, baby, adolesent, teen, adult are al diferent stages of development, in a human being, maybe ou should read more about this wonderful subject! And again, I say to you, look up the study od feotology, then you will see. And hopefully realize that abortion is murder.

  • @carmel350 The content of your post was just as stupid, you know. A zygote, a fetus are partially-developed humans in the lowest most non-reactive, dependent stages of human development where the brain is either not even present or is in such a low stage of development that the fetus has no self-awareness or even the ability to register sensation, nevermind have memories, opinions, or even realize it exists. It is in a vegetable-state. At no other stage of human life are we like that. Try again.

  • @ryddelwearsahat what vegetable state person can move their own body, or suck their thumb? Another thing, when was your first memory? P.S. I said, Different stages of developement! They are 100% human beings in the stages of developement, how the hell is that stupid? Are you stupid? Maybe, again, I say to you look up and read about "Feotology"! There's something you can sink your teeth into. Babies should never be sacrificed for anothers pleasure, THAT, THEY CAN LIVE WITHOUT!

  • @carmel350 The comatose can scream, cry, even 'sleepwalk' in a few cases- it all depends on what part of the brain is stopping their bodies from functioning normally. My first memory was around 2 years of age- that was when I became an actual person. Yes- go study fetology and study neural development like I did in college for my degree. Better yet read this-

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  • @ryddelwearsahat Wow, and your studying to be a nurse, poor people who get you as their nurse. " NURSE BETTY"

  • @carmel350 No, I'm already a registered nurse for the handicapped and elderly. I'm also one of those most highly-requested and well-spoken-of in my profession. Just telling you that because you are SO interested in my job, and the welfare of my clients. =) The comatose and the braindead can both be listed as 'vegetable'. Uh, why kill a child under two? Once it is born, it can be adopted.. Why are pro'life'rs so stupid? Go to college then come back here.

  • @ryddelwearsahat in other words your a care aide, big woop! I take care of everyone, not just the handicapped, or elderly. And if your from the states, your degrees are much less of a degree than in Canada! Everybody knows that. You don't seem to understand the abortion debate, because if you did you would check out the video on Obama's belief on abortion, check it out if you have the guts!

  • @ryddelwearsahat you did not say comatose before, you said "VEGETABLE". What next, can we kill are children who are under two years old? Your one fucked up idiot!