The Public Option was only non-profit insurance. People could go to any Hospital they wanted. It would utilizes the capitalistic model of competition to bring down prices while improving quality. We have a Health Care crisis in this country. The public option will return.
So, the question remains, should healthcare be a "right"? No, not at all. Not without passing a constitutional amendment. Should healthcare be a community service? Like Police or Fire? Possibly...but it's arguable how efficient they are.
All I ask is before people buy into the anti-insurance rhetoric, they learn about about what insurance is, what it does, and how much money it really makes...
Then decide for yourself what you think is right. Single payer, private only? Your choice.
The only reason we have insurance, is because doctors complained that people couldn't afford the treatments they were demanding.
Since the majority of the cost of healthcare is centered on labor (as is the majority cost of any service/production based business, as someone needs to actually produce the result), the people they should be taking a closer look at are doctors, not insurance company executives.
But they don't. That's because it's not politically safe to attack doctors.
Well, the reality is, health insurance as set up is a bit silly. It's not pure insurance (which is designed to cover unforeseen catastrophic events), it's insurance plus a motor club program (like AAA) at best. Additionally, the cost center for national healthcare is controlled by the providers (meaning doctors and hospitals) and pharma (meaning the pharmaceutical development and distribution network).
ivgraham don't let these insensetive aholes get you down. Im not for a pub option but i agree a real reform is needed. unfortunately this is an inept president and an inept congress.
America needs laws, searious laws against insurance companies setting standards. its the govt that needs to set standards not the other way around.
as for govt getting involved in buisness, well that will simply fail.
Russellt0228 the problem is not allowing the free market to be free, competition is what takes care of "greed". Turn the competition to actuall consumer, no tax insentives to companies to buy your insurance, let the competition between states to start ( so far we have state monopolies)
Now here is how true free market takes care of "greed" Now If Jack sells bagels and charges say $5 per bag, Adam comes into the market and wants to sell same bagels, he looks at Joe and sees taht Joe is too greedy and overcharging his customers, in Order to sell his same bagels Adam sells them for now $4, and then the service improvment begins, and so on, that is my simplifyed version of how true free market takes care of greed.
Laws involves government in business and people's lives.
Your logic is flawed.
There's nothing wrong with industries regulating themselves. It's the customers that set the standards and if you don't understand what I mean by this, I heartily recommend you check out John Stossel's segment on healthcare, it explains what's making insurance and healthcare services cost so much. The reform needs to come from you, not DC.
I was an abandoned single mother. I worked and struggled rather than go on welfare. I worked for small companies who did not cover my insurance. I lived in terror of either of us getting sick. I grew up in the military - the govt-supplied medicine the military received worked beautifully. I am now working with a woman who is helping her father sell his home to pay for his cancer treatments, as he has gone through all of his 401K savings after what his insurance covered. We do need change.
Oh, yes you poor victim you. I guess that makes you an expert on health care reform? NO? Didn't think so. Liberals need to get themselves out of the victim mentality because it's not fooling those of us who actually have brains. I can say, from first hand experience, that military health care is FAR from ideal. Furthermore, it would be prudent to note to you that Obama says health care should be run like the post office. Yes, that fantastic model of profit, service, and customer service.
He already did show racial bias in the harvard professor issue. Did you see how fast he jumped on the professors side of the fence before even knowing what happened? I dont think he is a racist in heart, but he carries the same biases most americans have.
You know, there was a country once that was in pretty bad shape. It only took one man to rally the youth, promise the people great things, and end up killing 6 million people. his name was Hitler. I do not like to compare Obama to him, but the lessons of history are truths. Don't let our govt run us into the ground and make things so bad that we repeat history.
No, i saidi do not like to compare Obama to hitler. There are to many differences between them, but there are also some similarities. Tons of people have come to his support in hope of change that he campaigned for. He is enormously popular, and some people dont even know his policy. That is just one example of blind faith in a charismatic leader.
obama believes in that as well...all you have to do is listen to some of his earlier speeches and the fact that he supports planned parent hood which is a very racist organization, which allows people to donate specifically for racist reasons.
well, if you listen to his interviews he has said some very racist things about whites for one, and secondly he supports PP which is an organization founded on racist principles, ones that are racist towards black people, and yes it still continues today. this is simply unacceptable.
@toothpickdinner Hey, why do you assume that we are all a bunch of Bush-lovers here? Nobody said that.
In fact, just because Bush spent a lot, doesn't make it right. Go look at some more of Bill Wittle's videos where he makes it clear that we want to fire everyone on congress. Every - single - one.
@toothpickdinner We need to get the best candidate forward that we can for the next presidential election. Obama will obviously be the Democrat candidate, so the real hope lies in the Republican party. The liberal media constantly tries to destroy this by putting forward THEIR names that they think Obama would likely defeat. And we don't need another Bush W equivalent, we need someone who will decrease the size of government and start paying back the debt rather than simply "cut" their budgets.
@toothpickdinner Clinton left a budget surplus because he and Alan Greenspan created the housing bible which artificially inflated the economy. You're never going to know the truth if you keep looking at the symptoms. And trying to divide everyone into one of the two primary parties is the most idiotic thing you can do. Name me ONE big policy difference between Bush and Obama. They both suck in EXACTLY the same ways, just Obama is taking big government to and even bigger level than W.
@toothpickdinner You don't know about the housing bubble or what? What's your problem with what I said? Bailouts, big government, unnecessary wars, overspending, etc. There is zero real policy difference in W Bush and Obama. Just look at the big picture instead of simply saying "oh the economy was good for Clinton". I'm not trying to be a trolling youtube punk, I'm being serious, so please don't just write me off because you disagree, at least look into what I have said.
Obama will cause everyone to lose their job on purpose to get people to ask for more handouts and all the Government spending you can choke on. Plays right into his plan. Very easy to see all this. We are really mesmerized by this guy.
What we have here is a president who knew well how to gain power, but hasn't a clue how to make that power work for the good he said it would. A president who, attempts to ram unread legislation down the throats of the American public without proper debate. A president, whose greed for power was far more important a priority than taking the time to gain the actual experience good governance requires. And a president woefully intolerant of those who disagree with him on matters of policy.
3 little nazis talk lies an hate racism alive an well
toothpickdinner 10 months ago
The Public Option was only non-profit insurance. People could go to any Hospital they wanted. It would utilizes the capitalistic model of competition to bring down prices while improving quality. We have a Health Care crisis in this country. The public option will return.
joshuancts 1 year ago
So, the question remains, should healthcare be a "right"? No, not at all. Not without passing a constitutional amendment. Should healthcare be a community service? Like Police or Fire? Possibly...but it's arguable how efficient they are.
All I ask is before people buy into the anti-insurance rhetoric, they learn about about what insurance is, what it does, and how much money it really makes...
Then decide for yourself what you think is right. Single payer, private only? Your choice.
englanddg 2 years ago 2
The only reason we have insurance, is because doctors complained that people couldn't afford the treatments they were demanding.
Since the majority of the cost of healthcare is centered on labor (as is the majority cost of any service/production based business, as someone needs to actually produce the result), the people they should be taking a closer look at are doctors, not insurance company executives.
But they don't. That's because it's not politically safe to attack doctors.
englanddg 2 years ago 2
Well, the reality is, health insurance as set up is a bit silly. It's not pure insurance (which is designed to cover unforeseen catastrophic events), it's insurance plus a motor club program (like AAA) at best. Additionally, the cost center for national healthcare is controlled by the providers (meaning doctors and hospitals) and pharma (meaning the pharmaceutical development and distribution network).
englanddg 2 years ago
What is with this "show" and strawman attacks?
frankgrimes17 2 years ago
ivgraham don't let these insensetive aholes get you down. Im not for a pub option but i agree a real reform is needed. unfortunately this is an inept president and an inept congress.
America needs laws, searious laws against insurance companies setting standards. its the govt that needs to set standards not the other way around.
as for govt getting involved in buisness, well that will simply fail.
Russellt0228 2 years ago
Russellt0228 the problem is not allowing the free market to be free, competition is what takes care of "greed". Turn the competition to actuall consumer, no tax insentives to companies to buy your insurance, let the competition between states to start ( so far we have state monopolies)
samuils 2 years ago
Now here is how true free market takes care of "greed" Now If Jack sells bagels and charges say $5 per bag, Adam comes into the market and wants to sell same bagels, he looks at Joe and sees taht Joe is too greedy and overcharging his customers, in Order to sell his same bagels Adam sells them for now $4, and then the service improvment begins, and so on, that is my simplifyed version of how true free market takes care of greed.
samuils 2 years ago
Laws involves government in business and people's lives.
Your logic is flawed.
There's nothing wrong with industries regulating themselves. It's the customers that set the standards and if you don't understand what I mean by this, I heartily recommend you check out John Stossel's segment on healthcare, it explains what's making insurance and healthcare services cost so much. The reform needs to come from you, not DC.
Vitaminous 2 years ago
I was an abandoned single mother. I worked and struggled rather than go on welfare. I worked for small companies who did not cover my insurance. I lived in terror of either of us getting sick. I grew up in the military - the govt-supplied medicine the military received worked beautifully. I am now working with a woman who is helping her father sell his home to pay for his cancer treatments, as he has gone through all of his 401K savings after what his insurance covered. We do need change.
lvgraham 2 years ago
Oh, yes you poor victim you. I guess that makes you an expert on health care reform? NO? Didn't think so. Liberals need to get themselves out of the victim mentality because it's not fooling those of us who actually have brains. I can say, from first hand experience, that military health care is FAR from ideal. Furthermore, it would be prudent to note to you that Obama says health care should be run like the post office. Yes, that fantastic model of profit, service, and customer service.
SWOEnsign 2 years ago
He already did show racial bias in the harvard professor issue. Did you see how fast he jumped on the professors side of the fence before even knowing what happened? I dont think he is a racist in heart, but he carries the same biases most americans have.
Zoklor 2 years ago 3
at 1:05 = Goldie Hawn dressed as a maid on strike
oicufn812 2 years ago
The amtrak analogy is a good one. Obama is trying to take us on a train ride to socialist hell.
Nokomisclub 2 years ago 2
Poor Bill Whittle.
quater2002 2 years ago
You know, there was a country once that was in pretty bad shape. It only took one man to rally the youth, promise the people great things, and end up killing 6 million people. his name was Hitler. I do not like to compare Obama to him, but the lessons of history are truths. Don't let our govt run us into the ground and make things so bad that we repeat history.
Zoklor 2 years ago 10
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Zillasniper 2 years ago
Wonderful statement, Zoklor!
Zillasniper 2 years ago
So anyone who promises too much and appeals to young people must be the next Hitler?
I think you're overlooking a key difference between Hitler and Obama, which is that Hitler believed in eugenics.
HerbertHKohl 2 years ago
No, i saidi do not like to compare Obama to hitler. There are to many differences between them, but there are also some similarities. Tons of people have come to his support in hope of change that he campaigned for. He is enormously popular, and some people dont even know his policy. That is just one example of blind faith in a charismatic leader.
Zoklor 2 years ago
You did compare Obama to Hitler, otherwise there wouldn't have been any point in mentioning them in the same paragraph.
Yes, it is a problem that people support Obama just because of his personality, but leave Hitler out of it.
HerbertHKohl 2 years ago
Oh, there is a reason. Economic policy....I just dont like the holocaust spin people put on it.
Zoklor 2 years ago
Well what does Obama's economic policy have to do with "killing 6 million people"?
HerbertHKohl 2 years ago
It has nothing to do with killing 6 million people. It has everything to do with what happened in germany up to that point.
Zoklor 2 years ago 2
I think you are missing a key similarity,
American progressives started eugenics.
surnbe 2 years ago
So what? In your mind does that prove that all liberals are eugenicists?
HerbertHKohl 2 years ago
obama believes in that as well...all you have to do is listen to some of his earlier speeches and the fact that he supports planned parent hood which is a very racist organization, which allows people to donate specifically for racist reasons.
ericsbabygirl2007 2 years ago
So which race is Obama against, exactly?
HerbertHKohl 2 years ago
well, if you listen to his interviews he has said some very racist things about whites for one, and secondly he supports PP which is an organization founded on racist principles, ones that are racist towards black people, and yes it still continues today. this is simply unacceptable.
ericsbabygirl2007 2 years ago
So Obama is racist against both blacks and whites, even though he himself is half white and half black?
Before you say anything else, find me a video that shows Obama saying something very racist.
HerbertHKohl 2 years ago
Human, as far as I can tell!
hecker1982 2 years ago
@Zoklor you didnt mind Bush spending the surplus clition left him in the 8 years because he was white you racist are all alike hate hate an more lies
toothpickdinner 10 months ago
@toothpickdinner Hey, why do you assume that we are all a bunch of Bush-lovers here? Nobody said that.
In fact, just because Bush spent a lot, doesn't make it right. Go look at some more of Bill Wittle's videos where he makes it clear that we want to fire everyone on congress. Every - single - one.
ilikemitchhedberg 9 months ago
@ilikemitchhedberg i agree with u a %100 obama an bush have not helped us at all they do is spent an lie
what should we do now is it to late?
toothpickdinner 9 months ago
@toothpickdinner We need to get the best candidate forward that we can for the next presidential election. Obama will obviously be the Democrat candidate, so the real hope lies in the Republican party. The liberal media constantly tries to destroy this by putting forward THEIR names that they think Obama would likely defeat. And we don't need another Bush W equivalent, we need someone who will decrease the size of government and start paying back the debt rather than simply "cut" their budgets.
nathan9384 8 months ago
@toothpickdinner Clinton left a budget surplus because he and Alan Greenspan created the housing bible which artificially inflated the economy. You're never going to know the truth if you keep looking at the symptoms. And trying to divide everyone into one of the two primary parties is the most idiotic thing you can do. Name me ONE big policy difference between Bush and Obama. They both suck in EXACTLY the same ways, just Obama is taking big government to and even bigger level than W.
nathan9384 8 months ago
@nathan9384 we both know your a liar so why waste my time
toothpickdinner 8 months ago
@toothpickdinner You don't know about the housing bubble or what? What's your problem with what I said? Bailouts, big government, unnecessary wars, overspending, etc. There is zero real policy difference in W Bush and Obama. Just look at the big picture instead of simply saying "oh the economy was good for Clinton". I'm not trying to be a trolling youtube punk, I'm being serious, so please don't just write me off because you disagree, at least look into what I have said.
nathan9384 8 months ago
@nathan9384 Don’t confuse Liberals with facts.
primpal08 7 months ago
Obama will cause everyone to lose their job on purpose to get people to ask for more handouts and all the Government spending you can choke on. Plays right into his plan. Very easy to see all this. We are really mesmerized by this guy.
lenny380 2 years ago 2
LOL! What is with the french maid at 1:05? I was like what was that flash! HA!
FatAsAMug 2 years ago
Obama and these class warfare Democrats are vilifying those who make our economy run.
bertly71 2 years ago 3
Great video.
5 stars
truefictions 2 years ago
lie lie lie how does he know does had he ever worked for them or been a head of one? Ask that question I bet he well do his blah blah blah.
jp3711nc1 2 years ago
@jp3711nc1
Are you an idiot?
Anyone can look up his history with public records to see how and where he worked. LOL. You can look it up on the internet aswell.
twichesyt 1 year ago
Another great discussion, guys. Thank you. LOVE PJTV:)
chattingcat 2 years ago 3
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chattingcat 2 years ago
people judge those around them by what they know of themselves....
listen very carefully for the reoccuring theme to how Obama speaks of others
dogcrapgreen 2 years ago 3
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Great stuff, guys!
LibertyPen 2 years ago
Aww... he got cut off!
Aerodeth 2 years ago
What we have here is a president who knew well how to gain power, but hasn't a clue how to make that power work for the good he said it would. A president who, attempts to ram unread legislation down the throats of the American public without proper debate. A president, whose greed for power was far more important a priority than taking the time to gain the actual experience good governance requires. And a president woefully intolerant of those who disagree with him on matters of policy.
JMBSM61 2 years ago 8
the obama gang calling anyone corrupt is completely disgusting. they make me sick, i'm glad we don't have the gornment option right now!
rednxrule 2 years ago 2
they should call it the government option. after all it leaves no options to anyone but this villianous regime.
rednxrule 2 years ago 2
hope this will be a good start that the congress should realize how stuped this guy is
toknow07 2 years ago
hahaha :)
lookiamviet 2 years ago