You had to blame it on the captain because according to the 1997 movie (whether if is true or not) he did received iceberg warnings but ordered more speed. Ordering more speed on a large vessel like the Titanic would cause the ship to lose its maneuvering ability because of the momentum of the vessel. That's why it take time to turn after its rudder was activated.
Perhaps it is just me but I wouldn't set foot on a ship built with 1912 technology, if only they had azimuth propellers and bow-thrusters they would certainly have missed hitting the iceberg.
Supposidly, the reverse or stop orders never made it to the engine room during the investigation. The ship did not stop until after the collision. If the ship had steered and hit the burg head on than trying to avoid it, the collision would of caused casualties to those onboard, but the damage would of been only to 1 compartment. Look at the ship that hit the Doria, the Stockholm was seriously damaged, the whole front of the bow was destroyed, but remained afloat.
I understand that "hard a starboard" means turn to port. But look at 0.28.The officer is operating the "port engine" telegraph located on the starboard side of the wheel house. Can anyone explain that to me?
That reverse the engines was fatal.Also the natural conditions were as bad as they could be(black iceberg harder 2 see,no moon,no wind and waves 2 break at the base of berg).Plus the very big speed,in an ice field(insanity of ismay and lack of guts from captain).
you know if they have better quality rivets instead of second best Titanic would have sustained less damage on collison, but that was all down to Ismay!!!!!!!.
The sad thing is Frederick Fleet (the one who said "Iceberg, right ahead!" commited suicide by hanging in January 1965. People who knew him said that he suffered from terrible guilt all his life because he had lived while so many perished. R.I.P Frederick Fleet
You have to remember its not just the iceberg that they could see, but the below the waterline part of the iceberg they couldnt see that really does the damage to the Titanic. But as we all know now there were other factors that contributed including inadequate welding, cheap metal as well as the obvious.
Port and starboard are nautical terms which refer to the left and right sides, respectively!! HOWEVER IN THIS MOVIE HE SAYS STARBOARD TO GO LEFT AND PORT TO GO RIGHT. WTF
@BlackThornNinja To quote from "Titanic - The Illustrated History": 'the order to turn the ship hard to starboard stemmed from the early days of sailing when putting the helm to starboard caused the ship to turn to port'
the reversing of the wing propeller and the shut off of the central turbine handicapped the rudder's abilities. other wise the central propeller would have sped up the turning
If that ass at 0:23 would have been: SHIT!! and ran his ass off to the cabin where the guy turning the ship is. Don't you think the titanic wouldn't have sunk???
Murdock ordered the ship hard to starboard and was turned hard to port and then when he ordered hard to port the ship was turned hard to starboard. The left side of the ship is port and the right side is starboard.
The ship should have went into full reverse and hit the iceberg head on. It would have stayed afloat and maybe no lives lost.
they shouldve dropped the anchor straight after hiiting the iceberg, abandoned the ship and sent all lifeboats towards the iceberg. dropped off everybody onto the iceberg and then gone back for the remaining others in the sea and do the same. that way everybody wouldve survived.
One thing I have realised is that the Two Watchmen were just looking and Jack and Rose Kissing. After that they Realise an Huge Iceberg Is on the Ship Path. If they didnt Look at Jack and Rose Kissing they could of saw the Iceberg before they acturally saw the Iceberg and they would of Turned the Ship Quite Easier.
You cut parts out so is that really the time they had and the first officer could have turned the ship and avoid the iceburg. He could have left the starboard engine going full ahead and reversed the port engine with the helm hard over. Titanic would have turned faster. This was demonstrated in her trials only a few months before.
On the other hand there is 1 good point for the sinking. We still have the titanic - even if it's on the ground of the sea - otherwise it would have been put apart like all those ships. I hope you know what I mean.
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They should have thrown all the engines into reverse and hit the berg head on. Some workers in the front cabins would have died, but the ship would have stayed afloat. They didn't realize the rudder was too small though. What a shame.
The Titanic was carrying key political opponents of the banksters' Federal Reserve system. It was built to fail. The hollywood film actually shows more truth than the documentaries they make. Debunk this: The flares used for emergencies (S.O.S.) are red. White flares are used for celebrations.
@Buckleofbelt This WAS BASED off a TRUE story, almost all the events depicted are pretty close to what actually happened, save for the whole Jack and Rose subplot.
Remember most evidence todays suggests that the Titanic didn't have enough time to turn, regardless of reversing the engines or not. The ship was "aimed" at the iceberg to brush along side it from the start, and within the less than 40 seconds from the warning to collision, the ship was unable to alter course. The main villain here was speed and inability to spot the berg sooner.
@mdewinkeleer Actually, the main villian here is ambition, as the Captain would have never sped up had Mr. Ismay had not told him of what he could acheive by arriving on Tuesday.
@mdewinkeleer Oddly enough, this was Smith's last voyage. He said he was going over as Captain, and coming back as a passenger. The main villain is complacency, ignoring at least 14 warnings of ice before April 14, and at least 5 received the day of. They should have slowed down and posted extra lookouts. Nothing takes the place of competent seamanship.
@Pikman01 Actually his speed was not out of the ordinary, plus the route that was taken was even more south then the official southern route to avoid just this.
I heard once that if Titanic had hit the iceberg frontally, there would have been less damage, and the ship wouldn't have sunk so fast.
@MebefromBelgium It would not sink at all...the Titanic was built to survive 4 floded compartments.
If the ship hit headon, a macimum of 3 compartments could be damaged, keeping the ship over water. Aditionally, after impact, the center of gravity would be farther back, so that titanic could even survive 5 flooded compartments...
@Pikman01 you are both wrong. the main villain here is instinct. if the Titanic had sailed straight forward into the iceberg, it would actually have remained afloat, because only three compartments would've been flooded, and the ship as designed to handle a maximum of 4 compartments flooded. however, instinct caused the crew to steer left, so the iceberg scraped along the side as the ship steered, opening up 6 compartments. if they took a little time to think about it, 2223 people would've lived
@mdewinkeleer I dissagree the main villan here was greed from white star lines wanting a media event forcing the captian to push the envelope, then the scumbag takes a life boat! The titanic was doomed when it left late in the year behind schedule during the ice flows,,then left binoculars hehind and traded deck space for life boats yet some say no time to launch them all anyway1 OOO then we can say the metals failed in design as well and in design not all compartments sealed.. IT WAS DOOMED
The actual reason that the Titanic sank is that Murdoch ordered the engines to reverse. Granted, he was probably trained to do that, but in doing so he slowed the ship and created a bubbling effect that made the rudder ineffective. Also, the faster a ship is going forward the faster it can turn, so by slowing the ship a collision was almost inevitable.
Actually I think its rose and jack's fault or maybe its the 2 watchers got distracted by the couple below them and if jack and rose werent they're, the 2 watchers would've seen the iceberg and give time for them to turn left and titanic would reach america :D
I can't blame Murdoch. What would be your first thought if you looked out and saw an iceberg right in front of you? Turn! Avoid it. It may have been a bad judgment call, but he was only human. Any of us would have done the same under so much pressure.
Murdoch was an idiot! He should've hit the fucking berg head-on instead of trying to turn when it was that close! They didn't have just 37 seconds before they hit. They had at least 2minutes. Either way they were idiots. If they were smarter, the Titanic would've lived! "Unsinkable eh? look at it now!
hey im sure most people would have tried to avoid the ice i would, so murdoch did good but he should have all stopped and waited for the ice to drift away
@boykidblue well, titanic was going full speed ahead, so she would have drifted into it anyways, even if you went full astern. however, if she had gone hard to starboard and not full astern, she may have damaged only a few compartments, or of he just went full astern, only the forepeak would have flooded, but he went full astern and hard a starboard, virtually removing the turning ability of the ship
They just didn't know where they were, which was in the former 2nd officer's cabin, in a locker, but he had been transferred off the ship, and didn't tell anyone where they were.
I'm right with you. I think Murdoch did the right thing by trying avoid it. It's so easy for people to say what should have been done AFTER the incident. But virtually anyone in Murdoch's position would have tried to avoid the iceberg. If people need to blame someone, they should blame that idiot wireless operator for screaming 'shut up' when other ships tried to warn them of the ice!
@toxicchantel5 You have a point but Smith was already well aware that they were approaching iceberg infested waters he should've stopped the ship for the night or slowed it down instead of proceeding at the same speed. Also according to some accounts after the sinking Ismay (the chairman of White Star Line at the time) convinced Smith to speed the ship up in order to make headlines once they reached New York. So only Smith and most likely Ismay can be held accountable for the sinking.
@KillaD15 Hi. Well, the one thing I can say in Captain Smith's defense is that as a caution he did sail further south (to avoid ice) than ships normally do. I know Mr. Ismay is an easy target. But I can't help but feel his reputation is a little blackened because he survived. The one thing I can say in his defense is that history seems to admit he helped people into life boats until he made his escape. The one person I can NOT defend is Jack Phillips who screamed 'Shut up' to the ice warnings.
the Titanic was constantly warned of icebergs in the area, but they kept going going at full speed thinking that the boat was unsinkable in the night(suicide). And mother nature got the better of them
37 seconds to act, is by no means enough. Many experts believe the rudder was too small for the size of vessel. Many belive the reciprocating engine sealed the ship's fate.
People would you listen to yourselves, there is no way the ship of that sise could have turned or put into reverse, it was simply going too fast and the water pushing it along like a torpedo. They would have survived if they hit directly onto the berg, but it's the natural instinct to pull the hand brake and try to turn the wheel. They were all fucked god rest their soul.
@gojipoj My thoughts exactly. Sure, hitting it head on would be like trying to stop a fast car instantly.... most objects and creatures in the ship would just fly forward a bit... then they could reverse the ship and go around later.... or bring the iceberg with them.
First of all, all the people that comment on this, you know very well it's a movie and that not everything is litteraly taken from the real crash. And I think, if Murdoch did what he did in this movie, he did it because he didn't have the time to make calculations like: "hmmm, if I put the right engine in full speed and the left one in reverse, then...oh no wait, maybe I should continue on full speed...", it was a choice he had to make instantly, and unfortunately, it wasn't the best.
@thomy753 Yes, the real Murdoch did unfortunately do what is shown in this movie, but you're right. He couldn't afford to take a moment to think of what to do. His instincts told him to turn the wheel towards the starboard part of the ship and that's what he did. I know a lot of people that blame murdoch for what happened. It's not fair for anyone to judge him on his decision because as you said, he didn't have time to make calculations.
@TileyxForever I agree. Anyone back in his place would've most likely ended up doing the same thing. Besides there are really only two people that can be held accountable for the sinking; Captain Smith for not heading the warnings of the icebergs, and Ismay for coaxing Smith into speeding up the ship when Smith was already aware they were approaching iceberg infested waters.
@KillaD15 jack phillips, titanic senior wireless operator could also be held acountable, he told evans, the wireless operator on the californian, to shut up, and may have caused evans to shut down for the night
@Davis4037 True, but had Smith heeded the warnings of the icebergs to begin with Phillips wouldn't have been in that position still Smith and Ismay are the only two who can really be held accountable for the sinking.
if there were only 37 seconds from the spoting to the collition,than how could you cut scenes from the movie and still make it 37 seconds;other wise,great and how do you take the music of of the movie
first.If your commanding the grandest ship in the world and you see something,in this case ,a iceberg,you are likely to get very scared for your self and for the ship.So no wonder Murdoch made the wrong choise of putting the starboard and port engines in reverse.If he wanted to miss the iceberg by the left of it,he should have put the port engine(right) in full spead ahead and the starboard engine(left) in full reverse-that would have deveated the ship on a wider angle
Titanic hit the iceberg because she required a minimum distance of 820 yards to stop, they spotted the Iceberg in less than 400 yards they reversed the engines and try to stop, if they left the engines running forward they would have made it. or they should have ran straight into the iceberg. coz even with the ship buckled back it still would have floated.
if they had slown down the ship and hit the iceberg with the full front.... only 2 or 3 compartments were damaged and it would still be able to stay afloat.
@DaNnYbLaZeR That's probably true, according to present day research. However, hitting the ice berg straight, even at a slightly reduced speed, would still have injured and killed a large number of people in the frontal compartments. The people in charge would have gotten their balls ripped off...
It is easy to debate what should and should not have been done on that night. I for one find the best solution would have been to ram the berg head on. But we must not forget that a disaster of this magnitude was needed to partly revolutionize the maritime industry.
@turbooggyboy True, at least it spawned international laws which require a ship to have enough seats in the safety boats for every single person on board. And other safety regulations.
the most simple thing was never though that time due to the panic...it was proven that murdoch should never steer the ship to any direction..the front of the ship was build for that purpose......the ship would hit on the "nose" and the water could be entered only inthe controlled sealed compartments...so the false was that..the ship should never be steered!!!
@stephos21 Thats easy after knowing what happent... but do you really think Murdock would had decided to simply ram head on an inmobile ice mountain while traveling at 40km/h? The Titanic would come from 40 to 0 instantly.. many people would had died and maybe even the boilers and other structural parts would may rip from their fixings ...
Its like if you are in a car and syou ee an onstacle and veer off , fall of a cliff and die, and after people say if you had not steered you would survive
Most evidence today leads experts to believe that Titanic, regardless of reversing the engines, had not enough time to turn. She only was able to turn one point after her wheel was fully turned, and needed at least 2 points to miss the berg. Message me if you want a detailed technical article of the impact
@SoliceProductions Yes, I believe it's true. They were going at approximately 22 knots and if it would have hit straight on, only the first or second compartments would have flooded especially if Murdoch shut the water tight doors as quickly as he did.
It is hard to tell, they were miles from help, and even with help coming to their aid it would have taken hours for a rescue ship to get past the bergs and to the Titanic. On top of that anyone in the forward part of the ship would have been most likely been killed during the impact, then they had only enough boats for half of the passengers on board, then you have less space to fill with water, the result may have been the same as a glancing blow.
there are too many stories to tell of what could have happened and what you pressume when we dont really no. but the conspiracy theroy about going straight into the ice burg is stupid
Imagine your Murdoch and you have a ocean liner that is "unsinkable" in his eyes. his options:
Go though ice burg recking the front of the ship causing the white star line to be critised
Go around it unharmed because the Titanic is unsinkable
@xSurfinB1rdx Yeah, a good Chuck Norris fart in the freight deck would have only killed the people down there, but would have caused the ship to float like a zeppelin. But speaking of that, it would have probably ended like one of those, the Hindenburg: the fart gas would have caused the fire places under the kettles to explode, seconds after the ship had goten past the ice berg. Thus: bad idea...
"Her fate" was NOT sealed. There is a good deal to suggest that, had they steered directly into the iceberg, the ship would have been damaged but would not have sunk. It is quite likely that it was actually the decision to turn that sank the ship.
In reality, a ship's engines can stop easily, but the actual ship would have glided across the ocean for another 5 miles. You can never stop a ship in 37 seconds, they should have known....
@swallowstreak226 I don't think they wanted to stop the ship, they just wanted to reduce the speed, as a means of containing the damage done in case of an impact.
@swallowstreak226 Well, then it certainly wouldn't have been a good idea to ram the ice berg straight. Sure, the ship may have survived it. But Titanic was traveling at 21 knots, which are about 39 km/h or 24 mph. Crash tests with cars demonstrate, that a crash without seat belts or airbags is almost certainly fatal at only 30 km/h. Thus everyone on board would have died by being thrown around really hard. Nobody would have been left to shut the water-tight doors and the ship would have sunk.
you they saw the iceberg its just that they where going the wrong side they where going right but that was the rong way and that wy the tatanic sank in the movie they just did it like that to make it more interesting
They should've hit the iceberg straight at the front of the titanic cos it wouldnt have made a hole in 5 compartments, maybe only 2 or 3 but instead they turned and made it hit from the side. they were prbably panickin and just did whatever came to them first.
I agree ... reversing the engines was a HUGE mistake. It made the turning much MUCH slower and nowhere near as effective. Shame really ... but when you have 37 seconds and are in a state of panic ... you don't really have time to think of all the possible outcomes ... you act out in uncontrollable instinct survival mode.
@Vegna24 Unlikely that reversing or not reversing the engines would have done much good anyway, they were far too close and going far too fast for any real avoidance methods.
Potentially taking the collision head one could, and thats a big could, have saved the ship, as this, while severely damaing the bow, would have potentially only opened up the first maybe second compartments, allowing the water tight doors to be effetivly used.
This is all just specualtion, we have no idea really.
White Star didn't spend a lot of money on Titanic's rudder. IF Olympic haven't striked the Hawke back in Belfast, White Star could've put more money in her rudder and she would miss the iceberg...by the bow, that is. Titanic's large hull prevented her for making sharp turns. By the time Murdoch turned her to 'Port, she would've hit it on the stern
During this time, "tiller commands" were still used to direct the position of the wheel. A tiller is a lever attached to a rudder post of a boat that provides leverage for the helmsman to turn the rudder. So, a TILLER turned toward the starboard side of the ship meant that the rudder turned in the opposite direction, which would cause the SHIP to turn to port. Conversely, a TILLER turned toward the port side meant that the SHIP turned to the starboard side. This was changed after WWI.
I wouldn't say her fate was sealed. If they had crashed head-on into the iceberg (instead of turning), it would have crippled the ship badly, but not sunk it.
They actually found out the Titianic had a susbention belt I believe that's what it's called. Which helped in the ship ripping apart. But also that the reinforced cast iron, was weakened by the cold atlantic waters. Making the haul weaker. If the Titanic had went a more southern route. The ship may have possible survived an ice burg. But Whte Line wanted the Titanic to get there faster taking the more dangerous passage. Also WL told Captain Smith to light the boilers. Captain Smith was a hero.
In James Cameran's version did the lookout guys really get distracted before seeing the icedberg if so there had been evidence that a ship like that could survive and have at least knocked out 2-3 of their watertight doors if they decided to hit the iceberg head on instead of turning therefor the titanic apparantly in a documantry i saw stayed aflot for at least 24 hours and would of then had enough time to get rescued then the ship would eventually sink.
Correct me if Im wrong (and I want to say first that I love this movie and in no way wish to make fun of it) but the commander yells hard to starbord, yet the pilot (or driver or whatever there called) turns left, and so does Titanic. Isn't left "Port" not "Starbord" in navy talk. Did I miss something?
Helm orders were given in regards to the tiller and based upon the sailing days of sailing ships. So basically the orders were like this, Hard A Starborad meant to turn the tiller to starborad which causes the stern to swing to the right and the bow swings left. For orders turning left the orders were given like this, Hard A Port meant to turn the tiller to port which causes the stern to swing to the left and the bow swings right.
its actually a blooper, hard astarboard means a hard right turn. the actual order should have been hard aport. also, the propeller portion of the movie is wrong. the starboard prop should hav NOT been put in reverse, that would cause the ship to move towards the iceberg. the port prop should have been put in reverse and the order should have been hard aport, for a hard LEFT hand turn
@maxman1919 actually, that's because before the telemotor helms, you had to turn the opposite way for the direction you wanted to go, turn port for starboard and so on, but the commands were still given that way and the helmsman would simply turn the opposite way he was asked to steer, hope that helps
The script is historically correct for 1912. The helmsman at that time was expected to understand that for example, Hard a Starboard, would mean to turn the ship itself to port. The reason for this was that when tillers were used many years ago; hard a port would signify that the tiller was turned to port...which in turn would turn the ship starboard. The Merchant Navy/Royal Navy kept most of their Nautical Jargon for quite a while..even when it didn't make sense!
@kirby4d The guy who rings the bell is Fredrick Fleet, the guy beside Fleet is Reginald Lee, sixth officer Moody answers phone, first officer Murdoch is the other man who is outside, and Robert Hichens is at the helm.
see guys theres the proof, it was in the movie, right there you saw it for yourself, approx 37 secs. Many have wondered if there was anyway but james cameron showed us that it was 37 secs clearly she was doomed. Cause its in the movie, and all you historians out there, screw off, ITS IN THE MOVIE so clearly its been decided and your input is redundant.
Heck if they didn't care enough they could have rammed the iceberg only damaging the first compartment, maybe the second. which the water tight doors could have held all that water back. then reverse and continue to New York for drydock repairs. Its sad out of all the options they had to pick the wrong one.
yea but come on man, last thing your thinking of at that moment is "HEY LETS HIT IT STRAIGHT ON" its easy now to say it would have worked, but in time of crisis your intinct is not to hit it at all, besides they wouldnt be able to continue there journey and would have lost her anyway, i will say it may have given more time for rescue, but your talking bout crushing the bulkheads which we no didnt go all the way up, so travelling with all that damage would have just rush more water in the hull.
Actually, the iceburg itself was a major hazard, because it was a black iceburg, the the bottom melts, the top becomes hevier, turning it upside down, they could only have seen it from a short distance! if only that Iceburg, was in the water for longer, it wouldn't have become back!
You had to blame it on the captain because according to the 1997 movie (whether if is true or not) he did received iceberg warnings but ordered more speed. Ordering more speed on a large vessel like the Titanic would cause the ship to lose its maneuvering ability because of the momentum of the vessel. That's why it take time to turn after its rudder was activated.
Starjack100 1 day ago
Perhaps it is just me but I wouldn't set foot on a ship built with 1912 technology, if only they had azimuth propellers and bow-thrusters they would certainly have missed hitting the iceberg.
alwayson09 6 days ago
THEY SAW THE ICEBERG TOO LATE.
jonathan55751 1 week ago
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Carlos99Olachea 1 week ago
Supposidly, the reverse or stop orders never made it to the engine room during the investigation. The ship did not stop until after the collision. If the ship had steered and hit the burg head on than trying to avoid it, the collision would of caused casualties to those onboard, but the damage would of been only to 1 compartment. Look at the ship that hit the Doria, the Stockholm was seriously damaged, the whole front of the bow was destroyed, but remained afloat.
forwardbias 2 weeks ago
I understand that "hard a starboard" means turn to port. But look at 0.28.The officer is operating the "port engine" telegraph located on the starboard side of the wheel house. Can anyone explain that to me?
blastforth 3 weeks ago
That reverse the engines was fatal.Also the natural conditions were as bad as they could be(black iceberg harder 2 see,no moon,no wind and waves 2 break at the base of berg).Plus the very big speed,in an ice field(insanity of ismay and lack of guts from captain).
TheLusianPopa 4 weeks ago
you know if they have better quality rivets instead of second best Titanic would have sustained less damage on collison, but that was all down to Ismay!!!!!!!.
buenaorgone19 1 month ago
Fuck the iceberg! Fuck the iceberg! Fuck the iceberg!
Nenafan4ever1 1 month ago
The sad thing is Frederick Fleet (the one who said "Iceberg, right ahead!" commited suicide by hanging in January 1965. People who knew him said that he suffered from terrible guilt all his life because he had lived while so many perished. R.I.P Frederick Fleet
playfulpaul1985 2 months ago
You have to remember its not just the iceberg that they could see, but the below the waterline part of the iceberg they couldnt see that really does the damage to the Titanic. But as we all know now there were other factors that contributed including inadequate welding, cheap metal as well as the obvious.
btho5531 2 months ago
Port and starboard are nautical terms which refer to the left and right sides, respectively!! HOWEVER IN THIS MOVIE HE SAYS STARBOARD TO GO LEFT AND PORT TO GO RIGHT. WTF
BlackThornNinja 2 months ago
@BlackThornNinja In the old maritime days of the early twentieth century, the order to put a ship to starboard was to turn the ship to port.
TheNostromo70 1 month ago
@TheNostromo70 well that makes sense!! NOT!
BlackThornNinja 1 month ago
@BlackThornNinja To quote from "Titanic - The Illustrated History": 'the order to turn the ship hard to starboard stemmed from the early days of sailing when putting the helm to starboard caused the ship to turn to port'
TheNostromo70 1 month ago
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BlackThornNinja 2 months ago
the reversing of the wing propeller and the shut off of the central turbine handicapped the rudder's abilities. other wise the central propeller would have sped up the turning
Jakanddaxter1999 2 months ago
If that ass at 0:23 would have been: SHIT!! and ran his ass off to the cabin where the guy turning the ship is. Don't you think the titanic wouldn't have sunk???
drewrocks3456 3 months ago
I would have been like: WE ARE SOOO FUCKED!!!
drewrocks3456 3 months ago
It's Funny how it says the minutes before the collision of the Ice Berg but the video goes for 1:43
JettConnor17 4 months ago
@JettConnor17 I was meant to say Seconds Before the Collison*
JettConnor17 4 months ago
Murdock ordered the ship hard to starboard and was turned hard to port and then when he ordered hard to port the ship was turned hard to starboard. The left side of the ship is port and the right side is starboard.
The ship should have went into full reverse and hit the iceberg head on. It would have stayed afloat and maybe no lives lost.
caveman441 4 months ago
Had the titanic rammed head-on into the berg, only one compartment would have been flooded! Talk about fate!
rags015 4 months ago
they shouldve dropped the anchor straight after hiiting the iceberg, abandoned the ship and sent all lifeboats towards the iceberg. dropped off everybody onto the iceberg and then gone back for the remaining others in the sea and do the same. that way everybody wouldve survived.
JalandharShere 5 months ago
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ErinPaigesMommy 1 month ago
One thing I have realised is that the Two Watchmen were just looking and Jack and Rose Kissing. After that they Realise an Huge Iceberg Is on the Ship Path. If they didnt Look at Jack and Rose Kissing they could of saw the Iceberg before they acturally saw the Iceberg and they would of Turned the Ship Quite Easier.
Luxayan 5 months ago
You cut parts out so is that really the time they had and the first officer could have turned the ship and avoid the iceburg. He could have left the starboard engine going full ahead and reversed the port engine with the helm hard over. Titanic would have turned faster. This was demonstrated in her trials only a few months before.
Id1443890780 5 months ago
in just 37secs?
reynald123ful 5 months ago
Does anyone els think that if the titanic had hit straight on, maybe less damage would have been caused?
theoliverandmax 6 months ago
On the other hand there is 1 good point for the sinking. We still have the titanic - even if it's on the ground of the sea - otherwise it would have been put apart like all those ships. I hope you know what I mean.
MadGuyMunich 6 months ago
this gave me nightmares
(i have been involved in worse!)
duckdude5551 7 months ago
Titanic - 0
Iceberg - 1
JordanAP96 7 months ago
hello
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diegoalejandrop1988 7 months ago
wow 37 seconds i wudnt blame them for when the titanic hit the ice berg
penguinrox1 7 months ago
They should have thrown all the engines into reverse and hit the berg head on. Some workers in the front cabins would have died, but the ship would have stayed afloat. They didn't realize the rudder was too small though. What a shame.
IrishChris1979 7 months ago
The Titanic was carrying key political opponents of the banksters' Federal Reserve system. It was built to fail. The hollywood film actually shows more truth than the documentaries they make. Debunk this: The flares used for emergencies (S.O.S.) are red. White flares are used for celebrations.
TheyLiveWeStillSleep 7 months ago
in the movie, everything is so well-lit at night. in reality the iceberg would have been just a black outline against stars.
oxysean 7 months ago
What did he say at 0:12?
starwarsfandude 8 months ago
@starwarsfandude bugger me
Buckleofbelt 8 months ago
@Buckleofbelt Oh I thought he said the F-word because I'm watching it on A&E and they censored that line.
starwarsfandude 8 months ago
@starwarsfandude he sayed ''Parked mate'' xD lol
Ms82215 8 months ago
@Ms82215 I thought he said the f word or bugger me.
starwarsfandude 8 months ago
@starwarsfandude
Lol i heard ''Parked mate'' :D
Ms82215 8 months ago
guys its a movie. stop talking about it as if it actually happened.
Buckleofbelt 8 months ago
@Buckleofbelt This WAS BASED off a TRUE story, almost all the events depicted are pretty close to what actually happened, save for the whole Jack and Rose subplot.
MrJackal95 8 months ago
@MrJackal95 ik :) I wuz kidding.
Buckleofbelt 8 months ago
The real reason they DIDNT TRY to miss was because everyone onboard wanted to set a record for the ship. The record was to sail the world.
GlitchesForBlack 8 months ago
Remember most evidence todays suggests that the Titanic didn't have enough time to turn, regardless of reversing the engines or not. The ship was "aimed" at the iceberg to brush along side it from the start, and within the less than 40 seconds from the warning to collision, the ship was unable to alter course. The main villain here was speed and inability to spot the berg sooner.
mdewinkeleer 9 months ago
@mdewinkeleer Actually, the main villian here is ambition, as the Captain would have never sped up had Mr. Ismay had not told him of what he could acheive by arriving on Tuesday.
Pikman01 9 months ago 3
@Pikman01 Ambition is the last refuge of failure- Oscar Wilde.
mdewinkeleer 9 months ago 4
@mdewinkeleer actually the villan is the builder for saying god himself could not sink the ship
ledford1100 7 months ago
@mdewinkeleer Oddly enough, this was Smith's last voyage. He said he was going over as Captain, and coming back as a passenger. The main villain is complacency, ignoring at least 14 warnings of ice before April 14, and at least 5 received the day of. They should have slowed down and posted extra lookouts. Nothing takes the place of competent seamanship.
Hendo56 5 months ago
@mdewinkeleer you just heard that from grissom lol
playfulpaul1985 2 months ago
@Pikman01 Actually his speed was not out of the ordinary, plus the route that was taken was even more south then the official southern route to avoid just this.
I heard once that if Titanic had hit the iceberg frontally, there would have been less damage, and the ship wouldn't have sunk so fast.
MebefromBelgium 8 months ago
@MebefromBelgium It would not sink at all...the Titanic was built to survive 4 floded compartments.
If the ship hit headon, a macimum of 3 compartments could be damaged, keeping the ship over water. Aditionally, after impact, the center of gravity would be farther back, so that titanic could even survive 5 flooded compartments...
andromedarr 7 months ago
@andromedarr Thanks, that was very Enlightening.
MebefromBelgium 7 months ago
@Pikman01 you are both wrong. the main villain here is instinct. if the Titanic had sailed straight forward into the iceberg, it would actually have remained afloat, because only three compartments would've been flooded, and the ship as designed to handle a maximum of 4 compartments flooded. however, instinct caused the crew to steer left, so the iceberg scraped along the side as the ship steered, opening up 6 compartments. if they took a little time to think about it, 2223 people would've lived
k6ka1 7 months ago
@Pikman01... final decision is still the captains and he has to be accountable for much of the blame
JalandharShere 5 months ago
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@Pikman01... final decision is still the captains and he has to be accountable for much of the blame
JalandharShere 5 months ago
@mdewinkeleer I dissagree the main villan here was greed from white star lines wanting a media event forcing the captian to push the envelope, then the scumbag takes a life boat! The titanic was doomed when it left late in the year behind schedule during the ice flows,,then left binoculars hehind and traded deck space for life boats yet some say no time to launch them all anyway1 OOO then we can say the metals failed in design as well and in design not all compartments sealed.. IT WAS DOOMED
antifreetrader 8 months ago
The actual reason that the Titanic sank is that Murdoch ordered the engines to reverse. Granted, he was probably trained to do that, but in doing so he slowed the ship and created a bubbling effect that made the rudder ineffective. Also, the faster a ship is going forward the faster it can turn, so by slowing the ship a collision was almost inevitable.
KiYodaMclovin 9 months ago
HARD TO STARBOARD!!! Yet he stears to Port Side
TFCfan2021 9 months ago
Actually I think its rose and jack's fault or maybe its the 2 watchers got distracted by the couple below them and if jack and rose werent they're, the 2 watchers would've seen the iceberg and give time for them to turn left and titanic would reach america :D
supercool918 9 months ago
I can't blame Murdoch. What would be your first thought if you looked out and saw an iceberg right in front of you? Turn! Avoid it. It may have been a bad judgment call, but he was only human. Any of us would have done the same under so much pressure.
MidnightMaiden17 9 months ago
Murdoch was an idiot! He should've hit the fucking berg head-on instead of trying to turn when it was that close! They didn't have just 37 seconds before they hit. They had at least 2minutes. Either way they were idiots. If they were smarter, the Titanic would've lived! "Unsinkable eh? look at it now!
carson11100 9 months ago
hey im sure most people would have tried to avoid the ice i would, so murdoch did good but he should have all stopped and waited for the ice to drift away
boykidblue 9 months ago
@boykidblue well, titanic was going full speed ahead, so she would have drifted into it anyways, even if you went full astern. however, if she had gone hard to starboard and not full astern, she may have damaged only a few compartments, or of he just went full astern, only the forepeak would have flooded, but he went full astern and hard a starboard, virtually removing the turning ability of the ship
Davis4037 9 months ago
Wow
angelinajoliefann22 10 months ago
This is what happens when you don't buy binoculars for the crew.
360Nomad 10 months ago
@360Nomad They had them onboard.
They just didn't know where they were, which was in the former 2nd officer's cabin, in a locker, but he had been transferred off the ship, and didn't tell anyone where they were.
iammjolnir 8 months ago
I'm right with you. I think Murdoch did the right thing by trying avoid it. It's so easy for people to say what should have been done AFTER the incident. But virtually anyone in Murdoch's position would have tried to avoid the iceberg. If people need to blame someone, they should blame that idiot wireless operator for screaming 'shut up' when other ships tried to warn them of the ice!
toxicchantel5 10 months ago 25
@toxicchantel5 You have a point but Smith was already well aware that they were approaching iceberg infested waters he should've stopped the ship for the night or slowed it down instead of proceeding at the same speed. Also according to some accounts after the sinking Ismay (the chairman of White Star Line at the time) convinced Smith to speed the ship up in order to make headlines once they reached New York. So only Smith and most likely Ismay can be held accountable for the sinking.
KillaD15 9 months ago
@KillaD15 Hi. Well, the one thing I can say in Captain Smith's defense is that as a caution he did sail further south (to avoid ice) than ships normally do. I know Mr. Ismay is an easy target. But I can't help but feel his reputation is a little blackened because he survived. The one thing I can say in his defense is that history seems to admit he helped people into life boats until he made his escape. The one person I can NOT defend is Jack Phillips who screamed 'Shut up' to the ice warnings.
toxicchantel5 9 months ago
titanic was really black and white and red
hornby3333 10 months ago
They should have had som good old ww1 missiles to take the iceberg out!
OssianPosse 11 months ago
@OssianPosse Titanic was before WW1 not by much though
Sarabibliomania1 10 months ago
the Titanic was constantly warned of icebergs in the area, but they kept going going at full speed thinking that the boat was unsinkable in the night(suicide). And mother nature got the better of them
capenati 11 months ago
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If the captain no stopped engines, the Titanic could escape :c
MrNicom67 1 year ago
If the captain no stopped engines, the Titanic could escape :c
MrNicom67 1 year ago
What's the name of the actor on 1:01 PLS REPLY :)
VuxPro 1 year ago
@VuxPro Ewan Stewart as 1st Officer Murdock
mdewinkeleer 1 year ago 5
@mdewinkeleer thx
VuxPro 1 year ago
guy.. this is a film.. im sure it took much more time than 1 minute
TheTeamScooter 1 year ago
What's a knot? :S
CarrotPencils 1 year ago
37 seconds to act, is by no means enough. Many experts believe the rudder was too small for the size of vessel. Many belive the reciprocating engine sealed the ship's fate.
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
People would you listen to yourselves, there is no way the ship of that sise could have turned or put into reverse, it was simply going too fast and the water pushing it along like a torpedo. They would have survived if they hit directly onto the berg, but it's the natural instinct to pull the hand brake and try to turn the wheel. They were all fucked god rest their soul.
gojipoj 1 year ago
@gojipoj My thoughts exactly. Sure, hitting it head on would be like trying to stop a fast car instantly.... most objects and creatures in the ship would just fly forward a bit... then they could reverse the ship and go around later.... or bring the iceberg with them.
DreadLordBalnazaar 1 year ago
It takes 20 seconds to put the engines in reverse, if it really took 37 secs as shown in this video, the engines would've had no effect at all.
MdCeA 1 year ago
First of all, all the people that comment on this, you know very well it's a movie and that not everything is litteraly taken from the real crash. And I think, if Murdoch did what he did in this movie, he did it because he didn't have the time to make calculations like: "hmmm, if I put the right engine in full speed and the left one in reverse, then...oh no wait, maybe I should continue on full speed...", it was a choice he had to make instantly, and unfortunately, it wasn't the best.
thomy753 1 year ago
@thomy753 Yes, the real Murdoch did unfortunately do what is shown in this movie, but you're right. He couldn't afford to take a moment to think of what to do. His instincts told him to turn the wheel towards the starboard part of the ship and that's what he did. I know a lot of people that blame murdoch for what happened. It's not fair for anyone to judge him on his decision because as you said, he didn't have time to make calculations.
TileyxForever 1 year ago
@TileyxForever I agree. Anyone back in his place would've most likely ended up doing the same thing. Besides there are really only two people that can be held accountable for the sinking; Captain Smith for not heading the warnings of the icebergs, and Ismay for coaxing Smith into speeding up the ship when Smith was already aware they were approaching iceberg infested waters.
KillaD15 10 months ago
@KillaD15 yes i completely agree with you.
TileyxForever 10 months ago
@KillaD15 jack phillips, titanic senior wireless operator could also be held acountable, he told evans, the wireless operator on the californian, to shut up, and may have caused evans to shut down for the night
Davis4037 9 months ago
@Davis4037 True, but had Smith heeded the warnings of the icebergs to begin with Phillips wouldn't have been in that position still Smith and Ismay are the only two who can really be held accountable for the sinking.
KillaD15 9 months ago
if there were only 37 seconds from the spoting to the collition,than how could you cut scenes from the movie and still make it 37 seconds;other wise,great and how do you take the music of of the movie
calum361 1 year ago
first.If your commanding the grandest ship in the world and you see something,in this case ,a iceberg,you are likely to get very scared for your self and for the ship.So no wonder Murdoch made the wrong choise of putting the starboard and port engines in reverse.If he wanted to miss the iceberg by the left of it,he should have put the port engine(right) in full spead ahead and the starboard engine(left) in full reverse-that would have deveated the ship on a wider angle
calum361 1 year ago
@calum361 tyhey say he didnt put them in reverse.a guy in engine room testified he stopped engines,as did a juniour officer on the bridge.
relmmih6 1 year ago
Titanic hit the iceberg because she required a minimum distance of 820 yards to stop, they spotted the Iceberg in less than 400 yards they reversed the engines and try to stop, if they left the engines running forward they would have made it. or they should have ran straight into the iceberg. coz even with the ship buckled back it still would have floated.
Liamtweedie 1 year ago
if they had slown down the ship and hit the iceberg with the full front.... only 2 or 3 compartments were damaged and it would still be able to stay afloat.
DaNnYbLaZeR 1 year ago 15
@DaNnYbLaZeR That's probably true, according to present day research. However, hitting the ice berg straight, even at a slightly reduced speed, would still have injured and killed a large number of people in the frontal compartments. The people in charge would have gotten their balls ripped off...
Director84 1 year ago
@DaNnYbLaZeR
Hmm yh you got a Point. But did you see even when they were going fast they stopped the ship but then it moved again which looked really werid.
Luxayan 10 months ago
@DaNnYbLaZeR how do you know that?
epona400 9 months ago
37 seconds wow that is not that many but wow awsome video
rogiet1 1 year ago
how do you got only the movie sounds in your movie?, in the film you hear also the soundtrack.
jantje92producties 1 year ago
It is easy to debate what should and should not have been done on that night. I for one find the best solution would have been to ram the berg head on. But we must not forget that a disaster of this magnitude was needed to partly revolutionize the maritime industry.
turbooggyboy 1 year ago
@turbooggyboy True, at least it spawned international laws which require a ship to have enough seats in the safety boats for every single person on board. And other safety regulations.
Director84 1 year ago
I like how you took off the music, it makes it more real.
Titanic983 1 year ago
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yes if they just rammed the iceberg the ship wouldnt have sunk!
MrJasonSmarts 1 year ago
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MrJasonSmarts 1 year ago
the most simple thing was never though that time due to the panic...it was proven that murdoch should never steer the ship to any direction..the front of the ship was build for that purpose......the ship would hit on the "nose" and the water could be entered only inthe controlled sealed compartments...so the false was that..the ship should never be steered!!!
stephos21 1 year ago 3
@stephos21 Thats easy after knowing what happent... but do you really think Murdock would had decided to simply ram head on an inmobile ice mountain while traveling at 40km/h? The Titanic would come from 40 to 0 instantly.. many people would had died and maybe even the boilers and other structural parts would may rip from their fixings ...
Its like if you are in a car and syou ee an onstacle and veer off , fall of a cliff and die, and after people say if you had not steered you would survive
sparrowlt 11 months ago
Most evidence today leads experts to believe that Titanic, regardless of reversing the engines, had not enough time to turn. She only was able to turn one point after her wheel was fully turned, and needed at least 2 points to miss the berg. Message me if you want a detailed technical article of the impact
mdewinkeleer 1 year ago
@mdewinkeleer can i have a detailed article of your proposed version of the impact please?
rufcdean 1 year ago
@mdewinkeleer I heard that they could have survived if they had rammed the iceberg, is that true?
SoliceProductions 1 year ago
@SoliceProductions Yes, I believe it's true. They were going at approximately 22 knots and if it would have hit straight on, only the first or second compartments would have flooded especially if Murdoch shut the water tight doors as quickly as he did.
TileyxForever 1 year ago
@SoliceProductions
It is hard to tell, they were miles from help, and even with help coming to their aid it would have taken hours for a rescue ship to get past the bergs and to the Titanic. On top of that anyone in the forward part of the ship would have been most likely been killed during the impact, then they had only enough boats for half of the passengers on board, then you have less space to fill with water, the result may have been the same as a glancing blow.
PyramidheadFreak 1 year ago
@mdewinkeleer yes please:)
kekahkooproductions 11 months ago
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theoliverandmax 6 months ago
there are too many stories to tell of what could have happened and what you pressume when we dont really no. but the conspiracy theroy about going straight into the ice burg is stupid
Imagine your Murdoch and you have a ocean liner that is "unsinkable" in his eyes. his options:
Go though ice burg recking the front of the ship causing the white star line to be critised
Go around it unharmed because the Titanic is unsinkable
nitrogen0101 1 year ago
They should've flown over the iceberg /:
xSurfinB1rdx 1 year ago
@xSurfinB1rdx Yeah, a good Chuck Norris fart in the freight deck would have only killed the people down there, but would have caused the ship to float like a zeppelin. But speaking of that, it would have probably ended like one of those, the Hindenburg: the fart gas would have caused the fire places under the kettles to explode, seconds after the ship had goten past the ice berg. Thus: bad idea...
Director84 1 year ago
"Her fate" was NOT sealed. There is a good deal to suggest that, had they steered directly into the iceberg, the ship would have been damaged but would not have sunk. It is quite likely that it was actually the decision to turn that sank the ship.
MrRik2 1 year ago 2
In reality, a ship's engines can stop easily, but the actual ship would have glided across the ocean for another 5 miles. You can never stop a ship in 37 seconds, they should have known....
swallowstreak226 1 year ago
@swallowstreak226 I don't think they wanted to stop the ship, they just wanted to reduce the speed, as a means of containing the damage done in case of an impact.
Director84 1 year ago
@Director84 It wouldn't have made a difference reversing it. In that 30 seconds, that ship wouldn't have slowed even a knot.
swallowstreak226 1 year ago
@swallowstreak226 Well, then it certainly wouldn't have been a good idea to ram the ice berg straight. Sure, the ship may have survived it. But Titanic was traveling at 21 knots, which are about 39 km/h or 24 mph. Crash tests with cars demonstrate, that a crash without seat belts or airbags is almost certainly fatal at only 30 km/h. Thus everyone on board would have died by being thrown around really hard. Nobody would have been left to shut the water-tight doors and the ship would have sunk.
Director84 1 year ago
you they saw the iceberg its just that they where going the wrong side they where going right but that was the rong way and that wy the tatanic sank in the movie they just did it like that to make it more interesting
arwie19 1 year ago
They should've hit the iceberg straight at the front of the titanic cos it wouldnt have made a hole in 5 compartments, maybe only 2 or 3 but instead they turned and made it hit from the side. they were prbably panickin and just did whatever came to them first.
DWho42 1 year ago
raginald lee had a mustache :/
falconlord1 1 year ago
no matter how many times i watch this movie my heart races when it comes to this scene...BRILLIANT MOVIE
MrOsho85 1 year ago
This was such a big event that how can you ignore so many questions, ive done so much research and can never get enough of it
joseluvs69 1 year ago
I agree ... reversing the engines was a HUGE mistake. It made the turning much MUCH slower and nowhere near as effective. Shame really ... but when you have 37 seconds and are in a state of panic ... you don't really have time to think of all the possible outcomes ... you act out in uncontrollable instinct survival mode.
Vegna24 1 year ago
@Vegna24 Unlikely that reversing or not reversing the engines would have done much good anyway, they were far too close and going far too fast for any real avoidance methods.
Potentially taking the collision head one could, and thats a big could, have saved the ship, as this, while severely damaing the bow, would have potentially only opened up the first maybe second compartments, allowing the water tight doors to be effetivly used.
This is all just specualtion, we have no idea really.
JesusX666 1 year ago
0:36 - what did the dude push?
epl0si0n 1 year ago
@epl0si0n A lever xD
2491cc 1 year ago
@epl0si0n A lever that reverses the engines.
vincnetflores118 1 year ago
@vincnetflores118 Nope, the lever was the switch to shut the water-tight doors, to seal of the damaged compartments.
Director84 1 year ago
this scene was great...
5/5
naruberto 1 year ago
It probaly would have been better to hit the ice berg head on than side on
thallanz231 1 year ago
White Star didn't spend a lot of money on Titanic's rudder. IF Olympic haven't striked the Hawke back in Belfast, White Star could've put more money in her rudder and she would miss the iceberg...by the bow, that is. Titanic's large hull prevented her for making sharp turns. By the time Murdoch turned her to 'Port, she would've hit it on the stern
JoeyVoicesProduction 1 year ago
the thing is a lie it didnt take 37 seconds in the movie it took 36.800 THIS VID HAS A WRONG TIME
scienceguy474 1 year ago
How'd you get the start of this without the music from the finished film (but still with sound effects and dialogue)?
TheNossinator 1 year ago
why werent they turning aniwais?
slapshot68 1 year ago
During this time, "tiller commands" were still used to direct the position of the wheel. A tiller is a lever attached to a rudder post of a boat that provides leverage for the helmsman to turn the rudder. So, a TILLER turned toward the starboard side of the ship meant that the rudder turned in the opposite direction, which would cause the SHIP to turn to port. Conversely, a TILLER turned toward the port side meant that the SHIP turned to the starboard side. This was changed after WWI.
cunardwhitestar34 1 year ago
I wouldn't say her fate was sealed. If they had crashed head-on into the iceberg (instead of turning), it would have crippled the ship badly, but not sunk it.
leafyutube 1 year ago
This video lies. I timed it and there was 1 minute and 55 seconds between the time the officers got the message and when Titanic hit the iceberg.
FDNY151 1 year ago
They actually found out the Titianic had a susbention belt I believe that's what it's called. Which helped in the ship ripping apart. But also that the reinforced cast iron, was weakened by the cold atlantic waters. Making the haul weaker. If the Titanic had went a more southern route. The ship may have possible survived an ice burg. But Whte Line wanted the Titanic to get there faster taking the more dangerous passage. Also WL told Captain Smith to light the boilers. Captain Smith was a hero.
MrLecours 1 year ago
the movie actually portrayed it longer. i think it took only about a minute to react.
punishalltrolls 1 year ago
Yes its true..
brunodude321 1 year ago
In James Cameran's version did the lookout guys really get distracted before seeing the icedberg if so there had been evidence that a ship like that could survive and have at least knocked out 2-3 of their watertight doors if they decided to hit the iceberg head on instead of turning therefor the titanic apparantly in a documantry i saw stayed aflot for at least 24 hours and would of then had enough time to get rescued then the ship would eventually sink.
writerfreak34 1 year ago
Correct me if Im wrong (and I want to say first that I love this movie and in no way wish to make fun of it) but the commander yells hard to starbord, yet the pilot (or driver or whatever there called) turns left, and so does Titanic. Isn't left "Port" not "Starbord" in navy talk. Did I miss something?
rprince418 1 year ago
Helm orders were given in regards to the tiller and based upon the sailing days of sailing ships. So basically the orders were like this, Hard A Starborad meant to turn the tiller to starborad which causes the stern to swing to the right and the bow swings left. For orders turning left the orders were given like this, Hard A Port meant to turn the tiller to port which causes the stern to swing to the left and the bow swings right.
Cunard51 1 year ago
@Cunard51
its actually a blooper, hard astarboard means a hard right turn. the actual order should have been hard aport. also, the propeller portion of the movie is wrong. the starboard prop should hav NOT been put in reverse, that would cause the ship to move towards the iceberg. the port prop should have been put in reverse and the order should have been hard aport, for a hard LEFT hand turn
maxman1919 1 year ago
@maxman1919 actually, that's because before the telemotor helms, you had to turn the opposite way for the direction you wanted to go, turn port for starboard and so on, but the commands were still given that way and the helmsman would simply turn the opposite way he was asked to steer, hope that helps
onthepc08 1 year ago
@maxman1919 Hi Maxman1919,
The script is historically correct for 1912. The helmsman at that time was expected to understand that for example, Hard a Starboard, would mean to turn the ship itself to port. The reason for this was that when tillers were used many years ago; hard a port would signify that the tiller was turned to port...which in turn would turn the ship starboard. The Merchant Navy/Royal Navy kept most of their Nautical Jargon for quite a while..even when it didn't make sense!
IRI5HJ4CK 1 year ago
@rprince418
Cameron explained this somewhere, I think. In 1912 it was supposedly the other way round.
Elisabetta611 1 year ago
Does anyone know who each of the guys are? I know who the lookouts are and the guy who answers the phone, but after that they all look the same.
kirby4d 1 year ago
@kirby4d The guy who rings the bell is Fredrick Fleet, the guy beside Fleet is Reginald Lee, sixth officer Moody answers phone, first officer Murdoch is the other man who is outside, and Robert Hichens is at the helm.
123peytonE 1 year ago
@123peytonE Thanks I did eventually figure it out :)
kirby4d 1 year ago
I love all the action in this scene. Lookouts, telephone, the wheel, the engine telegraphs, the engine room. <3 HARD OVER!
kirby4d 1 year ago
you tube code, /watch?v=e9vrfEoc8_g
whysoserious89 1 year ago
@whysoserious89 this isnt spam, just what i wanted to happen when i was a kid.
whysoserious89 1 year ago
there right idiotts think of them millions of people that would of died under their guilt !
RandomSheehanX 1 year ago
see guys theres the proof, it was in the movie, right there you saw it for yourself, approx 37 secs. Many have wondered if there was anyway but james cameron showed us that it was 37 secs clearly she was doomed. Cause its in the movie, and all you historians out there, screw off, ITS IN THE MOVIE so clearly its been decided and your input is redundant.
repzard99 1 year ago
Heck if they didn't care enough they could have rammed the iceberg only damaging the first compartment, maybe the second. which the water tight doors could have held all that water back. then reverse and continue to New York for drydock repairs. Its sad out of all the options they had to pick the wrong one.
AmodeoAnimations 1 year ago
yea but come on man, last thing your thinking of at that moment is "HEY LETS HIT IT STRAIGHT ON" its easy now to say it would have worked, but in time of crisis your intinct is not to hit it at all, besides they wouldnt be able to continue there journey and would have lost her anyway, i will say it may have given more time for rescue, but your talking bout crushing the bulkheads which we no didnt go all the way up, so travelling with all that damage would have just rush more water in the hull.
repzard99 1 year ago
scary as shit
MitchKid432 1 year ago
Actually, the iceburg itself was a major hazard, because it was a black iceburg, the the bottom melts, the top becomes hevier, turning it upside down, they could only have seen it from a short distance! if only that Iceburg, was in the water for longer, it wouldn't have become back!
BerrillProductions 1 year ago
Exactly 98 years and ten minutes ago is when they hit the ice