@TheMuslimKiller I can assure you that Alucard comes back more powerful after a 30 year timeskip where he has Schrodinger's powers. The people who downplay Alucard down to just a regular vampire as pathetic as Seras are either fans who really don't use their brains and eyes much, random viewers who misintepretated what should not have been misintepretated, or haters who just want to make Alucard less powerful than he really is.
Quick question I just finished watching OVA8 and it appeared like Alucard was dying for good. Does this actually happen? Looked like all those souls were killed by the escariot soldiers, or did he absorb them back? I read a few places he comes back, some say he comes back more powerful and some say he comes back as a regular old vampire. Can someone who knows shed some light on this?
@TheMuslimKiller Yeah after he comes back he has lost all of his souls, but Schrödinger's powers mean he is basically one of the strongest beings in fiction.
To be honest, it's a good list. I've been going over hellsing with numbers (sort of like the powerlevels from dbz) but this ranking is actually pretty good. I liked that you put schrodinger Alucard on the list. He was already way overpowered and at the end it just got ridiculous xD
A few things:
1: I think Rip van winkle should be a level lower. She isn't al that strong, her power comes from her gun.
2: you should have made a difference between "normal" and level 1 Alucard
@deedeeke1991 True but the gun is her primary weapon. Wouldn't make sense to put her lower when with her gun she could beat the tier 2 characters pretty easily. Sort of like when ranking vampire Walter, without his wires he is pretty weak as well.
yeh true, bit difficult to rank though, not sure how it would go atm xD
@tacoshitter Very good point about Walter and Rip. I agree with you.
I also think Anderson without the nail is probably also lower. I don't know if it was in the manga but in the anime he said that he wouldn't be able to handle Seras when she became a full vampire.
Level 4 alucard is probably on the same tier as Luke, as he was outclassed by Tubelcain. Level 1 alucard is probably tier 6, same level as the captain
@deedeeke1991 Anderson actually said Seras was no longer a being that "Heinkel" could handle. He seemed pretty confident that he could.
Anderson is also in a higher class than Walter, as shown in vol. 2.
Also keep in mind Alucard has never catagorically been outclassed or beaten since he more often then not toys with his opponents for amusement. In fact when he delivered the killing blow to helena anderson could have been the only time he actually took a fight seriously.
@tacoshitter Yeah come to think of it, he actually said that. But looking at Seras' powers, I think she still outclasses Anderson.
Volume 2? What are you talking about exactly? (I'm too lazy too look it up xD)
He was never beaten, but he wasn't faring to well gainst Tu!belcaine, So i'd say atleast he is stonger than Alucard level 4. I do agree that Alucard toys a lot, as he wants to be defeated by a true "man".
@deedeeke1991 maybe in regeneration seras is stronger, but based on battles, anderson took on level 0 alucard and his army head on, while alucard still believed he could win. her fight with the captain was less impressive imo.
when maxwell had the meeting with Integra. When alucard was about to leave, he said "once anderson withdraws, old walter is enough to protect Integra.
alucard never left lvl 4 against tubalcaine. he can change form when ever he wants without leveling.
@tacoshitter Just watch her speed and strenght while she's fighting the nazi vampires. Anderson has nothing on that. I also highly doubt his holy stuff would work against Seras anymore.
Alucard really wanted to be defeated by Anderson, who he greatly respected. he wasn't making it easy, but he could have killed him anytime. He was just toying with him.
With Tubelcaine he was in more "danger" in his level 4 form, that's why he went to level 1. It makes sense!
@deedeeke1991 also the tricky thing about the tubalcaine fight is that when a person isn't fighting seriously, they can appear much weaker than they really are. When alucard actually finished him off, he even apologised for ending it quickly xD It's anyone's guess how the fight would of played out if alucard was trying.
@tacoshitter Oh and btw, what is the point of the levels than? The levels are meant to control him because his powers are so vast he could very well slaughter everyone. That's why he needs to release his levels to take on the form of the helldog and so on.
@bakugancollectorZ. Actually anything that's capable of killing the heart of a vampire will do (whether it be a stake perfect for impaling or very holy weaponry). Although you can argue that stakes cannot kill him based purely on statements, it's clear that Anderson's bayonets are more than sufficient enough to do the job.
@vikingfromnorth45 Well the series is very short in itself, only 10 volumes long. Walter can dish punishment, but can't take any himself, so i don't see how it could of been done differently. As soon as alucard could make a succesful counter attack, he was always going to lose or die unless alucard wasn't taking the fight seriously.
The only person with the power to defeat him was Van Hellsing, and even he had a tough time, Alucard looked tough before, the seemingly indestructible vampire, but with shrodinger it's just too over powered, anderson already died when he battled alucard, walter is up there with anderson, alucard has his own class (regular and shrodinger), seras is much more powerful than you might think.
@bakugancollecterZ Well Walter transformation failed and The Captain is more powerful in his werewolf form.Just imagine Schrodinger came back as a young adult with the same powers as the Cap and Anderson as a Cyborg
@vikingfromnorth45 I meant Walter before his transformation, and Shrodinger has no real way of harming Alucard, Shrodinger cannot die, yet he can't do any harm to anyone, Alucard, can die, though it's nearly impossible considering his powers, combine them together and you have the ultimate Vampire.
@bakugancollecterZ Not exactly. Nothing Alucard can do will ever kill or even hurt Schrodinger. Schrodinger can do whatever he wants, be it before or after Alucard releases Level Zero even. If he releases level Zero, *BOOM*
Schrodinger tears out his heart. If it's Level Zero, he does it once, if it's not,he does it mllions of times, patience is needed but its not impossible.
@ReroOnyx Dude, you dont understand, Alucard's weakness is ONLY for the most powerful of christian artifacts, his souls aren't the source of his regeneration.
@bakugancollecterZ No, his immortality is based upon his souls which is why he has so many in him. After releasing Level Zero, and his souls he becomes far more succeptible to to being killed by attacking his heart. Even if Alucard could only be effected by holy artifacts, there's nothing stoping Schrondinger from popping over to the Vatican, taking a holy artifact and beating the crap out of Alucard with it.
@ReroOnyx Dude, when he battled anderson all his souls where destroyed he regenerated from the burns, it proves it, he was able to regenerate on par with anderson before his souls were destroyed and even after they were destroyed.
@bakugancollecterZ Alucard (let me put emphasis on that too) ALUCARD himself states, that the only way for him to die, is to take out his heart. Alucard himself, states that about himself. Someone didn't make a random remark about him, ALUCARD states something about himself.
Also, regeneration is not the same as immortality. Alucard can still regenerate arms, legs, heads, etc all he wants.
@bakugancollecterZ At no point is Alucard ever struck in the heart, some people come close, but he's never dealt a leathal blow. Allow me to put more emphasis on this because I could be wrong but I think I might have argued with you before on this.
Alucard HIMSELF states to Anderson "The ONLY way for them both to die is take out their hearts." I'll give the exact line from the manga too if you want. Alucard immortality is based on his souls, not regeneration.
@ReroOnyx Ok, he never said that, he said: "The only way for us to end this is to bore it out, from the bowels of our hearts" and the flames reached his internal organs, remember that vampires and ghouls die from either a shot to the head or the heart, Alucard was burned and hit in the head, that IS a lethal blow, I highly doubt that is his ONLY weakness, I mean, can you imagine if he started to list all his weaknesses to anderson when he said that line?
@bakugancollecterZ "Now for us both...the one way to die rot and perish to bore this out...the bowels of our hearts." EXACT line fromt he manga. No true vampire has ever died froma shot to the head, the priest, the two vampires, etc. They were all killed by...attacks to the heart. Alucard could have just shot the priest in the head, it's made almost blatant that you have to attack the heart. Walter himself even goes for Alucard's heart.
@bakugancollecterZ There's so many times where it's just...hit the heart. "I had to hit your lung to his his heart." "Aim for her heart police girl" "bore out our hearts." "I have to hit Alucard's heart" It's just blatant and that to the fact that its stated Alucard is already beyond any normal vampire just adds more to it. Direct line from a character about himself, everyone is trying to take out true vampire hearts including Walter.
@bakugancollecterZ And lastly, note that when Alucard states the line, he also speaks of Anderson himself. Anderson got blasted by casul and Jackal rounds and had his entire head blow off, none of which did anything to him. As a being composed of such stuff, he can't be hurt by holy attacks and he utterly screws anything demonic.
Blatantly stated lines, everyone's attempting to go for the hearts, statements are not contradicited.
@ReroOnyx 1) Anderson does not count, since he is not a vampire, 2) Do you think that a hit to the head and a burn from one of the most holy of christian artifacts? 3) The heart is commonly referred to, but on more than one occasion they referred to the head.
@bakugancollecterZ So why would Alucard refer to both himself and Anderson? You name one point in the manga where they say "To kill a vampire...hit his head." And even you do, it's already stated by Alucard that the only way for him to die is to bore out his heart. Honestly your ignoring statements directly from the manga and your not even bringing any logic to your argument.
So untl then, back up your claim because I'm done here.
@bakugancollecterZ In fact, having take another look at the manga, I'll even throw in another comment. In the beginning of Volume 4, when Arthur is talking to Integra, she says that the only way to kill a vampire is is stab it in the heart. Arthur responds that there are other ways to defeat vampire. Note that he says defeat and not kill but for this argument let's just assume he specifcally means kill.
@bakugancollecterZ In this regard, you can put the argument that normal vampires don't have to be struck in the heart, though it defintely appears to be the most commonly accepted way of killing them. However you still have Alucard's own statement about himself in Volume 8, indicating that while normal vampires may be succeptible to other deaths, Alucard himself is different.
@ReroOnyx Fine, but what I'm saying is that to kill him you have to use a powerful christian artifact, not just a steak, something like the nail of helena.
Hey there, tacoshitter. Remember me? We had a discussion on this video ages ago. I'm the guy vikingfromnorth45 was talking about. Just for the record, I also believe Dark Walter would lose to Nail-mode Anderson. However, I don't think it would be a curbstomp battle the way you're making it look. Also, I'm curious about some of the arguments you made.
@tacoshitter well the Hellsing manga is finished so we will never know unless hirano decided to some old and new Hellsing characters in his new series Drifters we may never know
@tacoshitter well he might finish it in the booklet's section of the OVA and might remake Crossfire into a an anime and along with Luke and Jan's omake
@tacoshitter well he might finish it in the booklet's section of the OVA and might remake Crossfire into a an anime and along with Luke and Jan's omake
@vikingfromnorth45 yeh i actually saw a video which was hellsing ova of Dawn, which confused me. is it non cannon stuff Hellsing Ultimate are making up, or is it legit from Hirano?
@ReroOnyx yeh i've read it, i just wasn't aware it was being made in the Hellsing ova's, and if it was canon or not. i havn't been watching them, since i'm hoping they will one day continue the english dub.
@tacoshitter The Dawn is SUPPOSED to be canon, and it's apparently supposed to be a prequel to Hellsing. However, I also heard that it was a project Hirano wanted to do for fun, which might be why he doesn't seem to care about finishing it.
Helena Anderson was then able to completely destroyed the Level Zero army down to the last man. It basically took all of what Alucard had to finally beat Anderson and without quick intuition and Seras saving him in time, he would've died.
Walter doesn't stand a chance in hell and I was wrong in thinking that he could before.
Alucard directly states that if Anderson couldn't kill him, there was no way in hell that Walter would ever be able to do it. Walter needed Alucard to have all of his lives destroyed before he even had a chance to kill him.
Helena Anderson was able to take multiple Jackal and and Casull bullets to the face, to the point where he actually catches a Jackal bullet itself. He's able to leap into the air, give Alucard time to raise his gun and still bash a bayonet into his head a moment later
@vikingfromnorth45 Phantomrant (the guy who posted above you). Fights within the Hellsingverse aren't really reliable because two of the people who post Hellsing characters the most frequently highly underrate their speed and just downright ignore their abilities. NoH Anderson wins in stamina area.
@tacoshitter Alacurd got kicked in half by The Captain. Also, The Captain isn't stronger than Seras, hence why Seras killed him. Seras is also far stronger than the normal Section 13 soldiers, hence why she was man handling them when they invaded Hellsing HQ. The only reason she even lost to Zorin was because of the illusions. I would put full vampire Seras just above The Captain and Anderson, with regular Alacurd just above that.
@GojiFan and a bunch of humans with guns blew alucard to bits in vol 3. blowing alucard up in itself is not much of a feat at all. and ceras did not beat the captain by over powering him, in fact it was the otherway around. the captain lost due to circumstances + wanting to lose. and section 13 soldiers never invaded hellsing HQ not sure what ur talking about. and the illusions are zorins main weapon, like andersons knives, or walters wires. you can't discredit them.
Yeah I miss typed the section 13 part. Meant to say the regular Millenium soldiers, though it essentially applies to Section 13 as well since the regular members were not all that special. The part about Zorin wasn't saying regular Seras IS stronger than Zorin, just saying she stood a very good chance of winning if it were not for her illusions. The same kicks by The Captain were enough to buckle steel and even a giant.. bomb? A loss is a loss. Seras out witted and killed him.
@GojiFan well yeh ur right, ceras did kick there arse, but it was with that huge gun. technically this video should have two ceras, one with and without that gun. without the gun she is around there level.
not sure what you mean by a "giant" but with the strength ceras shows, the captain buckling steel isn't much of a feat. the kick scene doesn't prove much since even humans can damage alucard. and ur right, she out witted the captain, but this is a power video, not an IQ video ^^
for those that are wondering, Walter isn't ranked 7 cause dispite his incredible power, millenium botched the experiment up, and becomes fragile in close contact. for this reason, even the captain and regular anderson are capable of beating him.
and ceras isn't ranked 6 cause she had only just became a vampire and wasn't as experienced as the top 4. the captain was clearly dominating, and only lost due to circumstantial reasons.
@tacoshitter i agree with a of that apart from when you said they botched the experiment up, the doctor just didn't have time to finish is all, if he had finished he probably would of been on par with Helena Anderson and i think Yumiko and Heinkel Wolfe should of been in Lukes section, they are far stronger than the other iscariot members
@tacoshitter What about Heinkel as a Regenrator I mean she didn't do much in the final chapter but she has the rivalry with Seras So I think they are on the same level.
@vikingfromnorth45 i don't think either form increases his power, it's just him showing his true form. either way ceras lost to anderson just from "touching" him. the captain is stronger than ceras, but not as much as helena anderson is.
@vikingfromnorth45 from what i remember alucard never realy fought the captain, he just made fun of him and ran off telling walter to take care of him.
and walter isn't very strong, in volume 2 when integra met maxwell, it was stated even with walter in the room, that only alucard was strong enough to be a body guard against anderson. you can tell by how scared walter looked when alucard said he was leaving, that he's no match for anderson.
Hey i got a question Alucard still alive at the end of it all right but he can exist where ever he wants to right? And if thats the case then what about schrodinger cause if he has that power then how can alucard be rid of then?
Ceras fought, pretty much toe-to-toe with the Captain in his human form, right down to each arm. Once he transformed into his werewolf form bi-pedal or whole is when he started jacking her up beyond salvation.
I could go a bit more in detail but for now I'll just pinpoint a few here and there.
Rejuvinated Walter (At least healthy) should be on the same level as Zero Released Alucard and God Anderson. Walter actually held a short advantage against Alucard during the first part of the fight and didn't start losing until his body starting going into the negative effects.
Much like with seperate Rejuvinated Walter into Healthy/Sick. You might want to seperate The Captain into Human/Werewolf.
@vikingfromnorth45 Not sure what that has to do with my nearly one year old and now completely different oppininated post but sure, it's highly likely that Heinekl is a Regenerator and does not get along happily with Seras, or any member of Hellsing for that matter.
Are you sure it's safe to use Alucard as a speed benchmark? We never know how much he's actually trying. The problem is that Rip's bullet chases it's targets. Alhambra can deflect it, but Luke, Zorin and Walter have no choice but to repeatedly dodge it until it runs out of energy. Considering it's speed, unpredictable trajectories and the fact that one slip can cause death to a target... it just seems like a longshot that they can do it. :)
fair enough, your entitled to your own opinion, but to answer your previous question about integra, i chose a scene of her killing a vampire on purpose, to show that even though i aknowledge she has killed them, i believe that its just an inconsistancy, and not a measure of her power. i believe it was luck, but i know how biased that is. but vampires have insane strength, and i dont see how she can be as strong as them.
Saying that Luke, Zorin and Walter can dodge Rip's bullet is also just an opinion. Not all bullets move at the same speed you know. Rip's bullet travels at speeds much greater than mach 3 and can maneuver it's way through the air at that speed attacking the target again, and again. What Walter dodged during the Valentine brothers' attack is nothing compared to Rip's bullet, so you can't just assume he can dodge it. Putting Walter on the same rank as Rip would be a much safer bet. :)
This is one of the most accurate Hellsing character listings I've seen so far. Well, actually, I haven't really seen many listings to begin with. XD
Anyway, nice job with it. :)
However, I'm having a hard time understanding what kind of logic you used to rank some of the characters. Did you only count their physical abilites (strength, speed, healing etc.) or did you also count ALL of their weapons as well? :o
I see. Thanks. May I ask a couple of questions though?
1) If you really considered Rip van Winkle's gun, why did you put here in the same rank as Zorin and Luke and actually placed Old Walter above her?
2) Why did you rank Integra lower than an average Millennium soldier, when you clearly showed a scene in this vid of her killing one of them in a 1 on 1 battle? What's up with that? XD
1 Zorin, Luke, and rip are vampires with similar strength, with a unique ability. since its impossible to say who would win between rips gun and zorins illusions, there ranked the same. and Walter is ranked higher because he is a former master vampire hunter, and he would of fought high level vampires stronger then Zorin
2) those feats are just an inconsistancy, i dont believe integra can dodge bullets, and can lift over a ton of weight, which is what those feats suggest.
1) Actually, it's not that hard to see who would win between Zorin and Rip. Zorin has to engulf Rip in an illussion and then attack her. All Rip has to do is pull the trigger and Zorin's dead. She never demonstrated the speed to dodge something moving as fast as Rip's bullet (and neither did old Walter for that matter). :)
2) Which feat suggests that Integra can lift over a ton of weight? I don't remember that one. :o
Zorin can dodge bullets, as most vampires can. look at it this way, Luke and tubalcaine both had the same vampire experiment done on them, and are both faster then sound. why would zorin be different? its only opinion that zorin cant dodge rips bullets. and walter is as fast and strong as the most powerful vampires, as he has fought and killed them for decades. and he outright dodged bullets in Vol.2.
@tammytrinh60 girlycard is the same as alucard, its just his appearance he changed. cause alucard said, shape and form mean nothing to me. but i forgot about girlycard, maybe i should of put her in the vid :/ meh.
In my opinion full vampire seras should be at least level 6. She could beat regular anderson if ya ask me. She just has to avoid his holy bayonetts. Shoulden't be too hard.
And I think zorin should be around level 5 with that illusion technique of hers. Not even third eye was able to resist her illusion once she used it right on seras face. Seras only got out of it cause the cat boy schroodinger(Or whatever his name is.) interrupted.
@LightningBlackChaos She used the third eye in the first illusion, the second illusion she forgot about the third eye and Zorin had entered. She was only half vampire then. When she became full, she was on rage mode not wanting to do anything but kill for Pip. When Zorin caught her with the illusion straight to the face, Zorin couldn't enter her because of Pip's soul, memories, body. Seras's soul, memories, body. Zorin was only expecting one person.
@LightningBlackChaos andersons power isnt his bayonetts. its his strength and speed that can only be matched by alucard who is the strongest vampire there is. alucard said so himself, that its impressive how anderson trained a human body to such heights of power.
and zorin barly beat ceras who is the lowest level of vampire. and when ceras became a full vampire she beat zorin like nothing, and utterly destroyed her. shes not stronger then walter, or even luke valentine.
lols walter would completey butcher ceras and alot of people in hellsing. as alucard said, shes the lowest of the vampires, a weak half human half vampire hybrid who cant even cross water.
Jan is stronger then Vampire Seras in my opinion. i mean Walter hardly beat him. but states doesnt matter in my opinion and also Jan is Waayyyy stronger then Nazi Vampires.
why did you post 4 comments saying the same thing?
and jan dosnt display powers that make him stronger then any other vampire in millenium. the only reason walter didnt spray his guts all over the walls immediately was because he needed information. i think your under estimating milleniums soldiers, they have feats of incredible strength, speed and endurance. and anything jan can do, ceras can do as well.
@uchihatheitachi How is Jan stronger than full vampire Seras? I can understand if you think Luke MIGHT be, but Seras could solo Luke and Jan at the same time in full vampire mode. Jan barely did anything, he has no feats other than having a ghoul army which was taken out by a weak Seras at the time instantly. And then there was him being beaten down by her pretty much, and she didn't even drink blood at the time.
i see it as luck, i might be biased, but i fail to see integra as strong as ceras, or section 13 who are trained fighters. i gave her level one, but level two seems too generous.
Luck? Integra easily beheaded those vampires, her speed and reflexes are superhuman. Whenever she fights, she never misses. Seras is WAY ahead Luke Valentine or Zorin too. However, Seras' aim is inferior to Integra's. Have you forgotten how badly she aims in the practices and fails?
Her strength lies in bigger ammo and vampirism, but as a trained soldier Integra's superior to Seras (knight > rookie police officer).
The Section 13 fell as flies regardless. And they were a group.
How is ceras WAY ahead of luke V and zorin? didnt Zorin butcher her? ceras is only Jan V level. and section 13 are trained vampire hunters with thousands of years experience. they fought equal to milleniums soldiers. your not giving them enough credit. you see her feats as speed and reflexes, i see them as pure luck. i admitted my biasism, but she countered anderson, does that make her level 6? no it dosnt. same with her other feats. ceras owned Pip my flicking her finger. Ceras > integra
Integra countered Anderson when Seras and Alucard BOTH didn't do it in the same chapter, and her two expert bodyguards GOT killed for facing him. She's also able to stop and restrain Seras while she's berserker. What I'm saying is that her strength isn't measurable.
Uh. You realize Elton John knighthood =/= Round Table member (who controls the UK in the shadows and are always the BEST OF THE BEST of nobility and military by canon?).
If Seras owned Pip by flicking a finger, 50s!Integra owned Seras by kicking her and she owned Alucard by shooting at him in the epilogue (even in the OVA they made a gag of the three in a ring and is Integra < Alucard < Seras). Those are COMIC RELIEF SCENES.
Pip owned Zorin who owned Seras briefly and he owned Captain WHO owned Seras for good. So... Pip and Integra (like Abraham) walk on an immeasurable edge that cannot be ranked IMO (hence why I put "???").
Iscariots don't have thousands of years of experiences. If anything Integra has the BEST potential mentors in combat since she was a kid (Walter and Alucard). They died like fodder against fodder. Period.
Also Seras is mostly strong around -Pip- look at volume 2, she got owned by -ghouls- went crazy and stopped by Integra who later owned all the ghouls off screen.
Integra and Seras according to Major have the potential to be as dangerous as Alucard. It depends of factors.
@thethessaliah o_O .. Alucard stated that the Iscariots, after two thousand years, have never changed. Meaning they have two thou.+ experience some where.
Ugh, as *organization.* They aren't thousands of years old members. Are they stronger than Alucard because their organisation proceeded him or the Orden of the Dragon? Nope.
The Round Table is mythical as well. In hellsing, HELLSING WON over the Vatican and the Nazis, so shows which Organization is stronger.
The Iscariots feared to face Integra, Seras and Pip in the epilogue.
@thethessaliah They didn't seem to fear at all, they want to bide more time for another crusade, or so the new director says. Heinkel was up to facing them right away, even. Anything that's not Seras / Pip / Integra or Hellsing to you, you kind of bash. o_o It's weird. xD
Look. I love Iscariot, but they lost. Pretty much a story called "Hellsing" you can expect Hellsing to be the winners.
They didn't fight them because they knew they were going to lose even if they had greater numbers. Heinkel in the scene (see added pages) did a guesstimate of this. M'Quave knew they would have been on the losing side, that's why he said that they would wait another 100 years. Or more.
theUltimate, i have no idea why he thinks section 13 are so weak, when its there organisation who produced anderson and where he aquired his powers. there followers would have at least 1 or 2 of these powers, and strong enough to at least beat low level vampires and integra.
Anderson is one thing. He's the new Abraham/Alucard's rival. But the other people of Section 13? They aren't Integra's level, Yumie and Heinkel (who is Pip level-they are even compared in volume 4) at best. Anderson's the one who called Integra AS their true enemy, remember? That they would have to defeat. Integra didn't look worried when he intervened.
lols... half the stuff you say make no sense at all. you think integra calming ceras down, and shooting half dead gouls off screen, and anderson holding back from butchering integra are feats of super human power? lols. if alucard didnt show up, anderson would of sliced her in two easily.
hers how integra was lucky enough to kill any vampires at all: she had the advantage of surpise. when they came for her, there gaurd was completely down, and didnt expect her to defend herself.
Lol. Not all the ghouls were half dead. Second, Anderson held off from butchering Seras and Alucard, they still weren't able to hold their ground IN that fight. Anderson bested them all.
Integra was called by Major the last of the members of the -best- vampire hunters.
Element of surprise? In one scene, she came from a -car crash- injured and shaken, she was still better. In the other she sliced the vampire head on, without breaking a sweat, quite easily.
Integra. Abraham. Pip. Schrödinger (to a degree). These characters get the True Human cards. So they will best anyone. Not because they are super godmodders, but the manga theme. So they can't be put in "levels". I'm NOT saying they belong to levels, I am saying they can't be classed because every time they would fight, they would win... not due to supernatural strength but the manga theme.
Well, Schrödinger isn't a True Human. But he's got a really headachy ability. He's not a fighter, but you can't kill him unless under special circumstances. That's why he should be off the classification too.
your wrong, its not hard to class them, you just need some common sense. Pip is the same as the wild geese, just because hes a main character, dosnt make him stronger. it just means he lives longer story wise. same with heinkle, theres no reason why shes not section 13 level. your right, there not fighters, but when they do fight they win, only because there Main characters. and schrodingers only power is 'not dying' so its pointless classing him
Eh. Pip and the Wild Geese are at least as good as Iscariots and the Knights. C'mon. Pip is compared with Heinkel back in volume 4, he's able to outspeed ZORIN face to face.
no idea were you think heinkel is compared to pip, and you think pip can speed blitz zorin..... whats wrong with you? pip is no stronger then any normal human. stop being biased.
LMAO. Read volume 7. Pip manages to put down Zorin for a while. Then painfully walk injured while being SHOT DOWN on the legs before Zorin backstabs him after she recovers.
Go and re read volume 4 for good measure. When Schrödinger appeared, both Pip and Heinkel withdrew their weapons at the same time. They were compared.
zorin was completely distracted and pip hit her when she was about to finish ceras off, and you think that was because pip is faster then her? that is just so... BLARG no offence, but just dumb. and pip hit the captain cause he HAD NO ARMS AND COULDNT MOVE. and pip and heinkel withdrew their weapons because they were both body gaurds, it wasnt suggesting anything else.
read crossroads, heinkel owns dozens of people shooting at her head on. pip can only hit some one when there not looking.
The "took her by surprise" is getting old. Alucard took by "surprise" many of his opponents (specially in volume 1). So what?
Pip hit her enough to hurt her (a vampire) And then he shot her when she KNEW he was there. So much for her vampire reflexes non?
Pip hit the Captain regardless (by his strategy and taking over the fight). HIS BLOW penetrated his skin that COULDN'T BE CUT by Walter's building-sliced wires.
The had the same speed. They did it on the same time.
as shown with alucards soldiers, when there souls are used in battle they became much more powerful then they were before. no reason pip wouldnt be. and human walters wires arnt building slicing not even close. in fact, he couldnt even slice through the shields the gouls used in vol 2. you think section 13 are weak regardless of there reputation and experience just cause there not main characters. thats bs. alucards soldiers are overkill and you know it. pip wouldnt last 2 seconds against them.
Eh. Pip seems stronger than the army. I'm saying Hirano's ridiculously biased towards his protagonists. Pip magically has a cigarette appear within Seras. He can do whatever he wants, join with her, his strength didn't take over fodder but the -Captain- then he's able to shapeshift at will and cover the ENTIRE headquarters by his watching presence.
He's ridiculously strong.
He couldn't not because he isn't strong, but he missed with his age. Look at him when he was young to compare.
Lmao realy. even though every one (including Anderson) was terrified when alucard released the soldiers, and it said they cut down the humans like warm summer air. yup there weak alright.
your saying pip has super human strength and powers and thats just pure lols, theres not even any point proving how wrong that is. i was able to accept how you thought integra is stronger then ceras, but now its getting too ridiculous.
LOL. and how many were in that army? Thousands. Pip's just ONE and manages to do more tricks than the human fodder army member. Integra only needs HIM as security, not an army
I didn't say Integra was "stronger" than seras. I said Integra was a better fighter than Seras was in the beginning. Seras trained and managed to become a good warrior (a lot of it she owns to Pip). Being a vampire didn't make her a strong warrior when -ghouls- nearly pwned her, you know? That was character development.
I agree, but you're misunderstanding me. You're also measuring army of thousands vs individual. Integra can easily dispatch a random vampire, we have showed this. Pip kills a werewolf and takes the job OF Hellsing army on his hands. Obviously that Millennium army facing ONE person would be at advantage.
This is also true AGAINST Anderson (no Nail) or against Alucard (he needed his OWN army).
the gouls didnt own her, she was just scared, and didnt know what to do, but when she snapped out of it, she pwned the gouls easily.
and the whole point of pip, is his tactics are based on the fact that vampires CAN rip him and his men to shreds easily if given the chance. pip is no match for ceras one on one, in case u didnt know that. pip's hit was strong enough to kill the captain because becoming enslaved by a vampire makes u stronger.
She didn't snap out, she lost it, she wasn't "driving" when she killed them (it was pure vampire side taking over, not her own skill).
He's not enslaved by Seras. o.O Go and read the thing, they are a team. He's the brains and she's the fists (most of the times). They even have a t-shirt called "Combination: Let's beat bastards together." Unlike the army Alucard has, Pip is on his own willpower, he does whatever he wants and appears when he wants. Seras wanted a fighting partner not a servant.
Also on strategy: So what? Do you think true warriors only depend on brute strength and powerz? LOL. You get pwned like that (David vs Goliath should be a really old example of this case). In any case, Pip at the end became a superpowered creature BESIDES being a seasoned warrior and a tactical man. He's pretty mean.
Becoming a vampire also makes you stronger.
Why not speak of Vlad or human!Seras? Would they even stand a chance against human!Pip or Integra?
im not questioning pips strategic ability or his leadership skills, etc. but hes no where near as strong as a vampire like ceras or zorin. and i only ment enslaved, in the sense that ceras absorbed his soul into his own being like alucard did with his army. pip has the same strength as they do. and they are very strong.
and pip made it very clear that when he set up the mines that such tricks were the only defense against such monsters. its very clear that 1 on 1 hes no match for a vampire.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Heinkel's outcome would depend what she has become. The ending is pretty ambiguous on her and in Integra's outcome (who might become a vampire as she asked Alucard if he wants to -suck- her blood).
Regenerator/!Anderson ish Heinkel and Vampire!Integra would be freakish.
@vikingfromnorth45 based on what exactly? nail anderson hit alucard just as much as walter did. neither appear to have any significant speed over the other, based on there fights with alucard. with one hit anderson defeated alucard's army and ceras at the same time while nearly killing alucard in the process. and it only took one half arsed punch from alucard to cripple walter. his body can barley handle punishment at all compared to anderson, the captain, etc.
@tacoshitter Well tell that to animevice i posted your video over there but they said Walter cut buildings and Walter is good a long range attacks.Also Heinkel and Yumie should have been added Renaldo,M'quive and the rest should have been on level one.Plus Heinkel at the end is now a Regenerator
@vikingfromnorth45 well so what that walter cut buildings, andersons blades shattered special hardened glass that alucard's soldier's couldn't even scratch. the same soldiers that made short work of millenium vampires. not only is his regeneration and durability MUCH stronger than walter, but he can use his blades to both cut his wires defensively, and use them as a powerful ranged weapon. one hit, and walter would most likely be gone.
Since when is shattering enforced glass as impressive as cutting a building in half?
What proof does he have that Anderson's bayonets could cut through Walter's wires? No object or force in the Hellsing universe was ever shown cutting, breaking or snapping Walter's wires.
@vikingfromnorth45 (i may be wrong) but i checked and as far as i see, vulcanised hardened glass is fictional. therefore to find how strong it is i used the power scaling i used before. the soldiers, who are easily 15+ ton in strength couldn't scratch it. that's just as, if not more impressive than slicing concrete and steel.
his second argument is a fallacy. just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it cant. a better question is what proof is there that his wires "can't" be cut?
@tacoshitter Refresh my memory. Where was it stated that the familiars that were scratching the glass were packing 15+ tons in strength?
I never said it couldn't happen, so don't try to change my argument. I just said nothing was ever shown to be able to do it, which is true. Of course "something" would be able to break Walter's wires, but where's your proof that Anderson's bayonets are that "something"?
@derexfireheart1001 i just power scaled from ceras's feats. the weapon she used to destroy the blimps would weigh around that much, and she is regarded by alucard as one of the lowest level of vampire there is. millenium soldiers are her level in speed and strength, and alucard's soldiers stomped them.
cause bayonet's can cut through regular wires. i don't see any proof that walter's wires are any more unbreakable.
@tacoshitter Alucard's soldiers stomped Millennium because they outnumbered them, charged at them full force and impaled them on stakes.They didn't scratch them to death with their bare hands.If Maxwell's barrier had taken the full force of Alucard's charging army and remained intact, your argument would have been spot on.But
Alucard and Anderson are my fav charachters
8701F 2 weeks ago
@TheMuslimKiller I can assure you that Alucard comes back more powerful after a 30 year timeskip where he has Schrodinger's powers. The people who downplay Alucard down to just a regular vampire as pathetic as Seras are either fans who really don't use their brains and eyes much, random viewers who misintepretated what should not have been misintepretated, or haters who just want to make Alucard less powerful than he really is.
edwinsz 2 months ago
Quick question I just finished watching OVA8 and it appeared like Alucard was dying for good. Does this actually happen? Looked like all those souls were killed by the escariot soldiers, or did he absorb them back? I read a few places he comes back, some say he comes back more powerful and some say he comes back as a regular old vampire. Can someone who knows shed some light on this?
TheMuslimKiller 2 months ago
@TheMuslimKiller Yeah after he comes back he has lost all of his souls, but Schrödinger's powers mean he is basically one of the strongest beings in fiction.
deedeeke1991 2 months ago
To be honest, it's a good list. I've been going over hellsing with numbers (sort of like the powerlevels from dbz) but this ranking is actually pretty good. I liked that you put schrodinger Alucard on the list. He was already way overpowered and at the end it just got ridiculous xD
A few things:
1: I think Rip van winkle should be a level lower. She isn't al that strong, her power comes from her gun.
2: you should have made a difference between "normal" and level 1 Alucard
deedeeke1991 2 months ago
@deedeeke1991 True but the gun is her primary weapon. Wouldn't make sense to put her lower when with her gun she could beat the tier 2 characters pretty easily. Sort of like when ranking vampire Walter, without his wires he is pretty weak as well.
yeh true, bit difficult to rank though, not sure how it would go atm xD
tacoshitter 2 months ago
@tacoshitter Very good point about Walter and Rip. I agree with you.
I also think Anderson without the nail is probably also lower. I don't know if it was in the manga but in the anime he said that he wouldn't be able to handle Seras when she became a full vampire.
Level 4 alucard is probably on the same tier as Luke, as he was outclassed by Tubelcain. Level 1 alucard is probably tier 6, same level as the captain
deedeeke1991 2 months ago
@deedeeke1991 Anderson actually said Seras was no longer a being that "Heinkel" could handle. He seemed pretty confident that he could.
Anderson is also in a higher class than Walter, as shown in vol. 2.
Also keep in mind Alucard has never catagorically been outclassed or beaten since he more often then not toys with his opponents for amusement. In fact when he delivered the killing blow to helena anderson could have been the only time he actually took a fight seriously.
tacoshitter 2 months ago
@tacoshitter Yeah come to think of it, he actually said that. But looking at Seras' powers, I think she still outclasses Anderson.
Volume 2? What are you talking about exactly? (I'm too lazy too look it up xD)
He was never beaten, but he wasn't faring to well gainst Tu!belcaine, So i'd say atleast he is stonger than Alucard level 4. I do agree that Alucard toys a lot, as he wants to be defeated by a true "man".
deedeeke1991 2 months ago
@deedeeke1991 maybe in regeneration seras is stronger, but based on battles, anderson took on level 0 alucard and his army head on, while alucard still believed he could win. her fight with the captain was less impressive imo.
when maxwell had the meeting with Integra. When alucard was about to leave, he said "once anderson withdraws, old walter is enough to protect Integra.
alucard never left lvl 4 against tubalcaine. he can change form when ever he wants without leveling.
tacoshitter 2 months ago
@tacoshitter Just watch her speed and strenght while she's fighting the nazi vampires. Anderson has nothing on that. I also highly doubt his holy stuff would work against Seras anymore.
Alucard really wanted to be defeated by Anderson, who he greatly respected. he wasn't making it easy, but he could have killed him anytime. He was just toying with him.
With Tubelcaine he was in more "danger" in his level 4 form, that's why he went to level 1. It makes sense!
deedeeke1991 2 months ago
@deedeeke1991 also the tricky thing about the tubalcaine fight is that when a person isn't fighting seriously, they can appear much weaker than they really are. When alucard actually finished him off, he even apologised for ending it quickly xD It's anyone's guess how the fight would of played out if alucard was trying.
tacoshitter 2 months ago
@tacoshitter Just look at the way he hold transform, it's just the same as with the release of his levels against Luke Valentine.
And why would he go level 1 against that weak Rip while he didn't against Tubelcaine?
deedeeke1991 2 months ago
@tacoshitter Oh and btw, what is the point of the levels than? The levels are meant to control him because his powers are so vast he could very well slaughter everyone. That's why he needs to release his levels to take on the form of the helldog and so on.
deedeeke1991 2 months ago
@bakugancollectorZ. Actually anything that's capable of killing the heart of a vampire will do (whether it be a stake perfect for impaling or very holy weaponry). Although you can argue that stakes cannot kill him based purely on statements, it's clear that Anderson's bayonets are more than sufficient enough to do the job.
edwinsz 4 months ago
@edwinsz Dark Walter vs alucard was a bit one sided and lasted for two volumes.So that's my fights that I did not enjoy
vikingfromnorth45 3 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 Well the series is very short in itself, only 10 volumes long. Walter can dish punishment, but can't take any himself, so i don't see how it could of been done differently. As soon as alucard could make a succesful counter attack, he was always going to lose or die unless alucard wasn't taking the fight seriously.
tacoshitter 3 months ago
@tacoshitter you forget the dawn and Crossfire.Also there's also a manga adaption of the Hellsing anime series and also Hellsing prototypes
vikingfromnorth45 3 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 Dawn is a separate prequel series. Thats why it's called Hellsing Dawn, and not Hellsing volume 11. Hellsing is 10 books long.
tacoshitter 3 months ago
@tacoshitter I notice Crossfire is a separate story that just tells the story of two Iscariot mebers
vikingfromnorth45 3 months ago
Let me explain some shit to noobs:
Alucard > Everyone (alive)
The only person with the power to defeat him was Van Hellsing, and even he had a tough time, Alucard looked tough before, the seemingly indestructible vampire, but with shrodinger it's just too over powered, anderson already died when he battled alucard, walter is up there with anderson, alucard has his own class (regular and shrodinger), seras is much more powerful than you might think.
bakugancollecterZ 4 months ago
@bakugancollecterZ Well Walter transformation failed and The Captain is more powerful in his werewolf form.Just imagine Schrodinger came back as a young adult with the same powers as the Cap and Anderson as a Cyborg
vikingfromnorth45 4 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 I meant Walter before his transformation, and Shrodinger has no real way of harming Alucard, Shrodinger cannot die, yet he can't do any harm to anyone, Alucard, can die, though it's nearly impossible considering his powers, combine them together and you have the ultimate Vampire.
bakugancollecterZ 4 months ago
@bakugancollecterZ Not exactly. Nothing Alucard can do will ever kill or even hurt Schrodinger. Schrodinger can do whatever he wants, be it before or after Alucard releases Level Zero even. If he releases level Zero, *BOOM*
Schrodinger tears out his heart. If it's Level Zero, he does it once, if it's not,he does it mllions of times, patience is needed but its not impossible.
ReroOnyx 4 months ago
@ReroOnyx Dude, you dont understand, Alucard's weakness is ONLY for the most powerful of christian artifacts, his souls aren't the source of his regeneration.
bakugancollecterZ 4 months ago
@bakugancollecterZ No, his immortality is based upon his souls which is why he has so many in him. After releasing Level Zero, and his souls he becomes far more succeptible to to being killed by attacking his heart. Even if Alucard could only be effected by holy artifacts, there's nothing stoping Schrondinger from popping over to the Vatican, taking a holy artifact and beating the crap out of Alucard with it.
Just by his powers alone.
ReroOnyx 4 months ago
@ReroOnyx Dude, when he battled anderson all his souls where destroyed he regenerated from the burns, it proves it, he was able to regenerate on par with anderson before his souls were destroyed and even after they were destroyed.
bakugancollecterZ 4 months ago
@bakugancollecterZ Alucard (let me put emphasis on that too) ALUCARD himself states, that the only way for him to die, is to take out his heart. Alucard himself, states that about himself. Someone didn't make a random remark about him, ALUCARD states something about himself.
Also, regeneration is not the same as immortality. Alucard can still regenerate arms, legs, heads, etc all he wants.
(Continuing)
ReroOnyx 4 months ago
@bakugancollecterZ At no point is Alucard ever struck in the heart, some people come close, but he's never dealt a leathal blow. Allow me to put more emphasis on this because I could be wrong but I think I might have argued with you before on this.
Alucard HIMSELF states to Anderson "The ONLY way for them both to die is take out their hearts." I'll give the exact line from the manga too if you want. Alucard immortality is based on his souls, not regeneration.
ReroOnyx 4 months ago
@ReroOnyx Ok, he never said that, he said: "The only way for us to end this is to bore it out, from the bowels of our hearts" and the flames reached his internal organs, remember that vampires and ghouls die from either a shot to the head or the heart, Alucard was burned and hit in the head, that IS a lethal blow, I highly doubt that is his ONLY weakness, I mean, can you imagine if he started to list all his weaknesses to anderson when he said that line?
bakugancollecterZ 4 months ago
@bakugancollecterZ "Now for us both...the one way to die rot and perish to bore this out...the bowels of our hearts." EXACT line fromt he manga. No true vampire has ever died froma shot to the head, the priest, the two vampires, etc. They were all killed by...attacks to the heart. Alucard could have just shot the priest in the head, it's made almost blatant that you have to attack the heart. Walter himself even goes for Alucard's heart.
(Continuing)
ReroOnyx 4 months ago
@bakugancollecterZ There's so many times where it's just...hit the heart. "I had to hit your lung to his his heart." "Aim for her heart police girl" "bore out our hearts." "I have to hit Alucard's heart" It's just blatant and that to the fact that its stated Alucard is already beyond any normal vampire just adds more to it. Direct line from a character about himself, everyone is trying to take out true vampire hearts including Walter.
(Continuing)
ReroOnyx 4 months ago
@bakugancollecterZ And lastly, note that when Alucard states the line, he also speaks of Anderson himself. Anderson got blasted by casul and Jackal rounds and had his entire head blow off, none of which did anything to him. As a being composed of such stuff, he can't be hurt by holy attacks and he utterly screws anything demonic.
Blatantly stated lines, everyone's attempting to go for the hearts, statements are not contradicited.
ReroOnyx 4 months ago
@ReroOnyx 1) Anderson does not count, since he is not a vampire, 2) Do you think that a hit to the head and a burn from one of the most holy of christian artifacts? 3) The heart is commonly referred to, but on more than one occasion they referred to the head.
bakugancollecterZ 4 months ago
@bakugancollecterZ So why would Alucard refer to both himself and Anderson? You name one point in the manga where they say "To kill a vampire...hit his head." And even you do, it's already stated by Alucard that the only way for him to die is to bore out his heart. Honestly your ignoring statements directly from the manga and your not even bringing any logic to your argument.
So untl then, back up your claim because I'm done here.
ReroOnyx 4 months ago in playlist Hellsing AMV
@bakugancollecterZ In fact, having take another look at the manga, I'll even throw in another comment. In the beginning of Volume 4, when Arthur is talking to Integra, she says that the only way to kill a vampire is is stab it in the heart. Arthur responds that there are other ways to defeat vampire. Note that he says defeat and not kill but for this argument let's just assume he specifcally means kill.
(Continuing)
ReroOnyx 4 months ago in playlist Hellsing AMV
@bakugancollecterZ In this regard, you can put the argument that normal vampires don't have to be struck in the heart, though it defintely appears to be the most commonly accepted way of killing them. However you still have Alucard's own statement about himself in Volume 8, indicating that while normal vampires may be succeptible to other deaths, Alucard himself is different.
ReroOnyx 4 months ago in playlist Hellsing AMV
@ReroOnyx Fine, but what I'm saying is that to kill him you have to use a powerful christian artifact, not just a steak, something like the nail of helena.
bakugancollecterZ 4 months ago
Hey there, tacoshitter. Remember me? We had a discussion on this video ages ago. I'm the guy vikingfromnorth45 was talking about. Just for the record, I also believe Dark Walter would lose to Nail-mode Anderson. However, I don't think it would be a curbstomp battle the way you're making it look. Also, I'm curious about some of the arguments you made.
derexfireheart1001 4 months ago
@derexfireheart1001 i also don't think it would be a curbstomp battle, just that Helena Anderson is stronger.
tacoshitter 4 months ago
@tacoshitter Oh? Okay then. At least we agree on that.
derexfireheart1001 4 months ago
@tacoshitter nope from hirano he's with the ova
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@tacoshitter well the Hellsing manga is finished so we will never know unless hirano decided to some old and new Hellsing characters in his new series Drifters we may never know
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 I forgot add some old and new characters from both Hellsing and drifters with a video game and anime adaption
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 he can't even be bothered to finish Hellsing Dawn, so i doubt we will see anything new from hellsing any time soon
tacoshitter 5 months ago
@tacoshitter Well actually he's working on a booklet in the OVA's so he might fisnish it hirano might be able to surprise us
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@tacoshitter Well actually he's working on a booklet in the OVA's so he might finish it hirano might be able to surprise us
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
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@tacoshitter Well he's working on a booklet in the OVA's so he might finish it hirano might be able to surprise us
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@tacoshitter well he might finish it in the booklet's section of the OVA and might remake Crossfire into a an anime and along with Luke and Jan's omake
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@tacoshitter well he might finish it in the booklet's section of the OVA and might remake Crossfire into a an anime and along with Luke and Jan's omake
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 yeh i actually saw a video which was hellsing ova of Dawn, which confused me. is it non cannon stuff Hellsing Ultimate are making up, or is it legit from Hirano?
tacoshitter 5 months ago
@tacoshitter You haven't heard of Hellsing: The Dawn?
ReroOnyx 4 months ago
@ReroOnyx yeh i've read it, i just wasn't aware it was being made in the Hellsing ova's, and if it was canon or not. i havn't been watching them, since i'm hoping they will one day continue the english dub.
tacoshitter 4 months ago
@tacoshitter The Dawn is SUPPOSED to be canon, and it's apparently supposed to be a prequel to Hellsing. However, I also heard that it was a project Hirano wanted to do for fun, which might be why he doesn't seem to care about finishing it.
derexfireheart1001 4 months ago
Btw for level 8, do you mean Alucard after absorbing Schrodinger or both Schrodinger and Alucard.
edwinsz 5 months ago
@edwinsz Well Alucard has Schro's soul inside him Schro is trapped and alucard now uses his powers
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@ReroOnyx I know but anime vice well it was tough and users of deviantart are not sure
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
Helena Anderson was then able to completely destroyed the Level Zero army down to the last man. It basically took all of what Alucard had to finally beat Anderson and without quick intuition and Seras saving him in time, he would've died.
Walter doesn't stand a chance in hell and I was wrong in thinking that he could before.
ReroOnyx 5 months ago
Alucard directly states that if Anderson couldn't kill him, there was no way in hell that Walter would ever be able to do it. Walter needed Alucard to have all of his lives destroyed before he even had a chance to kill him.
Helena Anderson was able to take multiple Jackal and and Casull bullets to the face, to the point where he actually catches a Jackal bullet itself. He's able to leap into the air, give Alucard time to raise his gun and still bash a bayonet into his head a moment later
ReroOnyx 5 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 Phantomrant (the guy who posted above you). Fights within the Hellsingverse aren't really reliable because two of the people who post Hellsing characters the most frequently highly underrate their speed and just downright ignore their abilities. NoH Anderson wins in stamina area.
edwinsz 5 months ago
@edwinsz agreed
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 you go to animevice? (I posted in one of the Walter vs Anderson threads and the winner was clearly Walter) What's your user?
edwinsz 5 months ago
@edwinsz Toxin45 and Also I posted Anderson vs Dark Walter remember.
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@tacoshitter Alacurd got kicked in half by The Captain. Also, The Captain isn't stronger than Seras, hence why Seras killed him. Seras is also far stronger than the normal Section 13 soldiers, hence why she was man handling them when they invaded Hellsing HQ. The only reason she even lost to Zorin was because of the illusions. I would put full vampire Seras just above The Captain and Anderson, with regular Alacurd just above that.
GojiFan 6 months ago
@GojiFan and a bunch of humans with guns blew alucard to bits in vol 3. blowing alucard up in itself is not much of a feat at all. and ceras did not beat the captain by over powering him, in fact it was the otherway around. the captain lost due to circumstances + wanting to lose. and section 13 soldiers never invaded hellsing HQ not sure what ur talking about. and the illusions are zorins main weapon, like andersons knives, or walters wires. you can't discredit them.
tacoshitter 6 months ago
@tacoshitter
Yeah I miss typed the section 13 part. Meant to say the regular Millenium soldiers, though it essentially applies to Section 13 as well since the regular members were not all that special. The part about Zorin wasn't saying regular Seras IS stronger than Zorin, just saying she stood a very good chance of winning if it were not for her illusions. The same kicks by The Captain were enough to buckle steel and even a giant.. bomb? A loss is a loss. Seras out witted and killed him.
GojiFan 6 months ago
@GojiFan well yeh ur right, ceras did kick there arse, but it was with that huge gun. technically this video should have two ceras, one with and without that gun. without the gun she is around there level.
not sure what you mean by a "giant" but with the strength ceras shows, the captain buckling steel isn't much of a feat. the kick scene doesn't prove much since even humans can damage alucard. and ur right, she out witted the captain, but this is a power video, not an IQ video ^^
tacoshitter 6 months ago
Why is Zorin more powerful than Ceres? Zorin got her ass kicked by Ceres.
DracuIina 7 months ago
@DracuIina zorin is more powerful than Ceras "before" she drank the mercenary guys blood (it's been so long i don't recall his name atm)
tacoshitter 7 months ago
also the captain in his werewolf form in the level 7 ranking
vikingfromnorth45 7 months ago
for those that are wondering, Walter isn't ranked 7 cause dispite his incredible power, millenium botched the experiment up, and becomes fragile in close contact. for this reason, even the captain and regular anderson are capable of beating him.
and ceras isn't ranked 6 cause she had only just became a vampire and wasn't as experienced as the top 4. the captain was clearly dominating, and only lost due to circumstantial reasons.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
@tacoshitter i agree with a of that apart from when you said they botched the experiment up, the doctor just didn't have time to finish is all, if he had finished he probably would of been on par with Helena Anderson and i think Yumiko and Heinkel Wolfe should of been in Lukes section, they are far stronger than the other iscariot members
raikagekillerbe 11 months ago
@tacoshitter What about Heinkel as a Regenrator I mean she didn't do much in the final chapter but she has the rivalry with Seras So I think they are on the same level.
vikingfromnorth45 7 months ago
@tacoshitter did you forget to add Captain in his werewolf form for level 7
vikingfromnorth45 7 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 i don't think either form increases his power, it's just him showing his true form. either way ceras lost to anderson just from "touching" him. the captain is stronger than ceras, but not as much as helena anderson is.
tacoshitter 7 months ago
@tacoshitter well he beat Alucard and Walter in Hellsing the Dawn.
vikingfromnorth45 7 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 from what i remember alucard never realy fought the captain, he just made fun of him and ran off telling walter to take care of him.
and walter isn't very strong, in volume 2 when integra met maxwell, it was stated even with walter in the room, that only alucard was strong enough to be a body guard against anderson. you can tell by how scared walter looked when alucard said he was leaving, that he's no match for anderson.
tacoshitter 7 months ago
@tacoshitter But his human form he has enough power but his werewolf form he can rip someone to sherds
vikingfromnorth45 7 months ago
Hey i got a question Alucard still alive at the end of it all right but he can exist where ever he wants to right? And if thats the case then what about schrodinger cause if he has that power then how can alucard be rid of then?
Jesse98James 1 year ago
@tacoshitter When walter try cut the captain with his wires. why did he not tore him in peaces?
TheLordOfDarknes1000 1 year ago
@TheLordOfDarknes1000 cause the captain was much faster then walters wires, and cought them like string.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
Ceras fought, pretty much toe-to-toe with the Captain in his human form, right down to each arm. Once he transformed into his werewolf form bi-pedal or whole is when he started jacking her up beyond salvation.
ReroOnyx 1 year ago
I could go a bit more in detail but for now I'll just pinpoint a few here and there.
Rejuvinated Walter (At least healthy) should be on the same level as Zero Released Alucard and God Anderson. Walter actually held a short advantage against Alucard during the first part of the fight and didn't start losing until his body starting going into the negative effects.
Much like with seperate Rejuvinated Walter into Healthy/Sick. You might want to seperate The Captain into Human/Werewolf.
ReroOnyx 1 year ago
@ReroOnyx Also Heinekl is a Regenerator in Volume 10 the final chapter and has a rivalry with Seras
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 Not sure what that has to do with my nearly one year old and now completely different oppininated post but sure, it's highly likely that Heinekl is a Regenerator and does not get along happily with Seras, or any member of Hellsing for that matter.
ReroOnyx 5 months ago
@tacoshitter
Are you sure it's safe to use Alucard as a speed benchmark? We never know how much he's actually trying. The problem is that Rip's bullet chases it's targets. Alhambra can deflect it, but Luke, Zorin and Walter have no choice but to repeatedly dodge it until it runs out of energy. Considering it's speed, unpredictable trajectories and the fact that one slip can cause death to a target... it just seems like a longshot that they can do it. :)
derexfireheart1001 1 year ago
fair enough, your entitled to your own opinion, but to answer your previous question about integra, i chose a scene of her killing a vampire on purpose, to show that even though i aknowledge she has killed them, i believe that its just an inconsistancy, and not a measure of her power. i believe it was luck, but i know how biased that is. but vampires have insane strength, and i dont see how she can be as strong as them.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
@tacoshitter
Agreed. Some parts of Hellsing can be interpreted in different ways. Based on this, people will always have different opinions. :)
derexfireheart1001 1 year ago
@tacoshitter PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
TELL ME THE NAME OF THE AMAZING SONG I AM HEARING NOW!!!!!!
TheLordOfDarknes1000 1 year ago
Saying that Luke, Zorin and Walter can dodge Rip's bullet is also just an opinion. Not all bullets move at the same speed you know. Rip's bullet travels at speeds much greater than mach 3 and can maneuver it's way through the air at that speed attacking the target again, and again. What Walter dodged during the Valentine brothers' attack is nothing compared to Rip's bullet, so you can't just assume he can dodge it. Putting Walter on the same rank as Rip would be a much safer bet. :)
derexfireheart1001 1 year ago
This is one of the most accurate Hellsing character listings I've seen so far. Well, actually, I haven't really seen many listings to begin with. XD
Anyway, nice job with it. :)
However, I'm having a hard time understanding what kind of logic you used to rank some of the characters. Did you only count their physical abilites (strength, speed, healing etc.) or did you also count ALL of their weapons as well? :o
derexfireheart1001 1 year ago
@derexfireheart1001 i based it on there physical abilities, and there primary powers, i.e walters wires, or rip van winkles gun.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
@tacoshitter
I see. Thanks. May I ask a couple of questions though?
1) If you really considered Rip van Winkle's gun, why did you put here in the same rank as Zorin and Luke and actually placed Old Walter above her?
2) Why did you rank Integra lower than an average Millennium soldier, when you clearly showed a scene in this vid of her killing one of them in a 1 on 1 battle? What's up with that? XD
derexfireheart1001 1 year ago
@derexfireheart1001
1 Zorin, Luke, and rip are vampires with similar strength, with a unique ability. since its impossible to say who would win between rips gun and zorins illusions, there ranked the same. and Walter is ranked higher because he is a former master vampire hunter, and he would of fought high level vampires stronger then Zorin
2) those feats are just an inconsistancy, i dont believe integra can dodge bullets, and can lift over a ton of weight, which is what those feats suggest.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
@tacoshitter
1) Actually, it's not that hard to see who would win between Zorin and Rip. Zorin has to engulf Rip in an illussion and then attack her. All Rip has to do is pull the trigger and Zorin's dead. She never demonstrated the speed to dodge something moving as fast as Rip's bullet (and neither did old Walter for that matter). :)
2) Which feat suggests that Integra can lift over a ton of weight? I don't remember that one. :o
derexfireheart1001 1 year ago
Zorin can dodge bullets, as most vampires can. look at it this way, Luke and tubalcaine both had the same vampire experiment done on them, and are both faster then sound. why would zorin be different? its only opinion that zorin cant dodge rips bullets. and walter is as fast and strong as the most powerful vampires, as he has fought and killed them for decades. and he outright dodged bullets in Vol.2.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
@derexfireheart1001 Also tell him the guy who makes this video about the chat you and i did at deviantart for Anderson vs walter
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@derexfireheart1001 Hey dude does Full Vampire Seras and Regenerator heinkel are on the same Level?
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
this looks kindof of right on the scaleings but what about girlycard? o.o shouldnt she be lvled too?
tammytrinh60 1 year ago
@tammytrinh60 girlycard is the same as alucard, its just his appearance he changed. cause alucard said, shape and form mean nothing to me. but i forgot about girlycard, maybe i should of put her in the vid :/ meh.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
@tacoshitter k
:/
tammytrinh60 1 year ago
In my opinion full vampire seras should be at least level 6. She could beat regular anderson if ya ask me. She just has to avoid his holy bayonetts. Shoulden't be too hard.
And I think zorin should be around level 5 with that illusion technique of hers. Not even third eye was able to resist her illusion once she used it right on seras face. Seras only got out of it cause the cat boy schroodinger(Or whatever his name is.) interrupted.
LightningBlackChaos 1 year ago
@LightningBlackChaos Seras doesn't know how to use the third eye, you don't know anything about Hellsing bro. Stop trying.
TheUltimateEvil100 1 year ago
@TheUltimateEvil100 Then why was she able to use it to get out of zorin's first illusion?
LightningBlackChaos 1 year ago
@LightningBlackChaos She used the third eye in the first illusion, the second illusion she forgot about the third eye and Zorin had entered. She was only half vampire then. When she became full, she was on rage mode not wanting to do anything but kill for Pip. When Zorin caught her with the illusion straight to the face, Zorin couldn't enter her because of Pip's soul, memories, body. Seras's soul, memories, body. Zorin was only expecting one person.
TheUltimateEvil100 1 year ago
@LightningBlackChaos andersons power isnt his bayonetts. its his strength and speed that can only be matched by alucard who is the strongest vampire there is. alucard said so himself, that its impressive how anderson trained a human body to such heights of power.
and zorin barly beat ceras who is the lowest level of vampire. and when ceras became a full vampire she beat zorin like nothing, and utterly destroyed her. shes not stronger then walter, or even luke valentine.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
I think you are absolutely right. :)
But I also think that this is a debate that could rage on for AGES. lol
ShinigamiSha1 1 year ago
And no Jan is stronger then Nazi Vampires! Seras and lot of other pople he atleast deserves level 4 in my opinion. oh well, but states doesnt matter.
uchihatheitachi 1 year ago
lols walter would completey butcher ceras and alot of people in hellsing. as alucard said, shes the lowest of the vampires, a weak half human half vampire hybrid who cant even cross water.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
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uchihatheitachi 1 year ago
Jan is stronger then Vampire Seras in my opinion. i mean Walter hardly beat him. but states doesnt matter in my opinion and also Jan is Waayyyy stronger then Nazi Vampires.
uchihatheitachi 1 year ago
why did you post 4 comments saying the same thing?
and jan dosnt display powers that make him stronger then any other vampire in millenium. the only reason walter didnt spray his guts all over the walls immediately was because he needed information. i think your under estimating milleniums soldiers, they have feats of incredible strength, speed and endurance. and anything jan can do, ceras can do as well.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
@uchihatheitachi How is Jan stronger than full vampire Seras? I can understand if you think Luke MIGHT be, but Seras could solo Luke and Jan at the same time in full vampire mode. Jan barely did anything, he has no feats other than having a ghoul army which was taken out by a weak Seras at the time instantly. And then there was him being beaten down by her pretty much, and she didn't even drink blood at the time.
TheUltimateEvil100 1 year ago
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uchihatheitachi 1 year ago
And also Jan is way stronger then Nazi Vampires.
uchihatheitachi 1 year ago
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uchihatheitachi 1 year ago
Er. Integra is stronger than Millennium soldiers. She beats them. She's also stronger than random Iscariots since she was able to fence *Anderson*
Level one should be Major or Maxwel who can't fight.
thethessaliah 2 years ago
i see it as luck, i might be biased, but i fail to see integra as strong as ceras, or section 13 who are trained fighters. i gave her level one, but level two seems too generous.
tacoshitter 2 years ago
Luck? Integra easily beheaded those vampires, her speed and reflexes are superhuman. Whenever she fights, she never misses. Seras is WAY ahead Luke Valentine or Zorin too. However, Seras' aim is inferior to Integra's. Have you forgotten how badly she aims in the practices and fails?
Her strength lies in bigger ammo and vampirism, but as a trained soldier Integra's superior to Seras (knight > rookie police officer).
The Section 13 fell as flies regardless. And they were a group.
thethessaliah 2 years ago
How is ceras WAY ahead of luke V and zorin? didnt Zorin butcher her? ceras is only Jan V level. and section 13 are trained vampire hunters with thousands of years experience. they fought equal to milleniums soldiers. your not giving them enough credit. you see her feats as speed and reflexes, i see them as pure luck. i admitted my biasism, but she countered anderson, does that make her level 6? no it dosnt. same with her other feats. ceras owned Pip my flicking her finger. Ceras > integra
tacoshitter 2 years ago
Integra countered Anderson when Seras and Alucard BOTH didn't do it in the same chapter, and her two expert bodyguards GOT killed for facing him. She's also able to stop and restrain Seras while she's berserker. What I'm saying is that her strength isn't measurable.
Uh. You realize Elton John knighthood =/= Round Table member (who controls the UK in the shadows and are always the BEST OF THE BEST of nobility and military by canon?).
thethessaliah 1 year ago
If Seras owned Pip by flicking a finger, 50s!Integra owned Seras by kicking her and she owned Alucard by shooting at him in the epilogue (even in the OVA they made a gag of the three in a ring and is Integra < Alucard < Seras). Those are COMIC RELIEF SCENES.
Pip owned Zorin who owned Seras briefly and he owned Captain WHO owned Seras for good. So... Pip and Integra (like Abraham) walk on an immeasurable edge that cannot be ranked IMO (hence why I put "???").
thethessaliah 1 year ago
Because it varies.
Iscariots don't have thousands of years of experiences. If anything Integra has the BEST potential mentors in combat since she was a kid (Walter and Alucard). They died like fodder against fodder. Period.
Also Seras is mostly strong around -Pip- look at volume 2, she got owned by -ghouls- went crazy and stopped by Integra who later owned all the ghouls off screen.
Integra and Seras according to Major have the potential to be as dangerous as Alucard. It depends of factors.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
@thethessaliah o_O .. Alucard stated that the Iscariots, after two thousand years, have never changed. Meaning they have two thou.+ experience some where.
TheUltimateEvil100 1 year ago
Ugh, as *organization.* They aren't thousands of years old members. Are they stronger than Alucard because their organisation proceeded him or the Orden of the Dragon? Nope.
The Round Table is mythical as well. In hellsing, HELLSING WON over the Vatican and the Nazis, so shows which Organization is stronger.
The Iscariots feared to face Integra, Seras and Pip in the epilogue.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
@thethessaliah They didn't seem to fear at all, they want to bide more time for another crusade, or so the new director says. Heinkel was up to facing them right away, even. Anything that's not Seras / Pip / Integra or Hellsing to you, you kind of bash. o_o It's weird. xD
TheUltimateEvil100 1 year ago
Look. I love Iscariot, but they lost. Pretty much a story called "Hellsing" you can expect Hellsing to be the winners.
They didn't fight them because they knew they were going to lose even if they had greater numbers. Heinkel in the scene (see added pages) did a guesstimate of this. M'Quave knew they would have been on the losing side, that's why he said that they would wait another 100 years. Or more.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
theUltimate, i have no idea why he thinks section 13 are so weak, when its there organisation who produced anderson and where he aquired his powers. there followers would have at least 1 or 2 of these powers, and strong enough to at least beat low level vampires and integra.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
Anderson is one thing. He's the new Abraham/Alucard's rival. But the other people of Section 13? They aren't Integra's level, Yumie and Heinkel (who is Pip level-they are even compared in volume 4) at best. Anderson's the one who called Integra AS their true enemy, remember? That they would have to defeat. Integra didn't look worried when he intervened.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
lols... half the stuff you say make no sense at all. you think integra calming ceras down, and shooting half dead gouls off screen, and anderson holding back from butchering integra are feats of super human power? lols. if alucard didnt show up, anderson would of sliced her in two easily.
hers how integra was lucky enough to kill any vampires at all: she had the advantage of surpise. when they came for her, there gaurd was completely down, and didnt expect her to defend herself.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
Lol. Not all the ghouls were half dead. Second, Anderson held off from butchering Seras and Alucard, they still weren't able to hold their ground IN that fight. Anderson bested them all.
Integra was called by Major the last of the members of the -best- vampire hunters.
Element of surprise? In one scene, she came from a -car crash- injured and shaken, she was still better. In the other she sliced the vampire head on, without breaking a sweat, quite easily.
Please re-read the manga.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
You're ignoring what I'm saying.
Integra. Abraham. Pip. Schrödinger (to a degree). These characters get the True Human cards. So they will best anyone. Not because they are super godmodders, but the manga theme. So they can't be put in "levels". I'm NOT saying they belong to levels, I am saying they can't be classed because every time they would fight, they would win... not due to supernatural strength but the manga theme.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
Well, Schrödinger isn't a True Human. But he's got a really headachy ability. He's not a fighter, but you can't kill him unless under special circumstances. That's why he should be off the classification too.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
your wrong, its not hard to class them, you just need some common sense. Pip is the same as the wild geese, just because hes a main character, dosnt make him stronger. it just means he lives longer story wise. same with heinkle, theres no reason why shes not section 13 level. your right, there not fighters, but when they do fight they win, only because there Main characters. and schrodingers only power is 'not dying' so its pointless classing him
tacoshitter 1 year ago
Eh. Pip and the Wild Geese are at least as good as Iscariots and the Knights. C'mon. Pip is compared with Heinkel back in volume 4, he's able to outspeed ZORIN face to face.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
no idea were you think heinkel is compared to pip, and you think pip can speed blitz zorin..... whats wrong with you? pip is no stronger then any normal human. stop being biased.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
LMAO. Read volume 7. Pip manages to put down Zorin for a while. Then painfully walk injured while being SHOT DOWN on the legs before Zorin backstabs him after she recovers.
Go and re read volume 4 for good measure. When Schrödinger appeared, both Pip and Heinkel withdrew their weapons at the same time. They were compared.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
zorin was completely distracted and pip hit her when she was about to finish ceras off, and you think that was because pip is faster then her? that is just so... BLARG no offence, but just dumb. and pip hit the captain cause he HAD NO ARMS AND COULDNT MOVE. and pip and heinkel withdrew their weapons because they were both body gaurds, it wasnt suggesting anything else.
read crossroads, heinkel owns dozens of people shooting at her head on. pip can only hit some one when there not looking.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
The "took her by surprise" is getting old. Alucard took by "surprise" many of his opponents (specially in volume 1). So what?
Pip hit her enough to hurt her (a vampire) And then he shot her when she KNEW he was there. So much for her vampire reflexes non?
Pip hit the Captain regardless (by his strategy and taking over the fight). HIS BLOW penetrated his skin that COULDN'T BE CUT by Walter's building-sliced wires.
The had the same speed. They did it on the same time.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
as shown with alucards soldiers, when there souls are used in battle they became much more powerful then they were before. no reason pip wouldnt be. and human walters wires arnt building slicing not even close. in fact, he couldnt even slice through the shields the gouls used in vol 2. you think section 13 are weak regardless of there reputation and experience just cause there not main characters. thats bs. alucards soldiers are overkill and you know it. pip wouldnt last 2 seconds against them.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
Eh. Pip seems stronger than the army. I'm saying Hirano's ridiculously biased towards his protagonists. Pip magically has a cigarette appear within Seras. He can do whatever he wants, join with her, his strength didn't take over fodder but the -Captain- then he's able to shapeshift at will and cover the ENTIRE headquarters by his watching presence.
He's ridiculously strong.
He couldn't not because he isn't strong, but he missed with his age. Look at him when he was young to compare.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
Lmao sorry. Alucard's soldiers < Pip. By far. They were wasted by fodder Iscariot.
Pip scared Iscariot away from the Mansion. Except for Heinkel and M'Quave.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
Lmao realy. even though every one (including Anderson) was terrified when alucard released the soldiers, and it said they cut down the humans like warm summer air. yup there weak alright.
your saying pip has super human strength and powers and thats just pure lols, theres not even any point proving how wrong that is. i was able to accept how you thought integra is stronger then ceras, but now its getting too ridiculous.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
LOL. and how many were in that army? Thousands. Pip's just ONE and manages to do more tricks than the human fodder army member. Integra only needs HIM as security, not an army
I didn't say Integra was "stronger" than seras. I said Integra was a better fighter than Seras was in the beginning. Seras trained and managed to become a good warrior (a lot of it she owns to Pip). Being a vampire didn't make her a strong warrior when -ghouls- nearly pwned her, you know? That was character development.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
@tacoshitter I agree with both of you, lmao, in some ways.
TheUltimateEvil100 1 year ago
we have different views, this has gone for a long time now.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
I agree, but you're misunderstanding me. You're also measuring army of thousands vs individual. Integra can easily dispatch a random vampire, we have showed this. Pip kills a werewolf and takes the job OF Hellsing army on his hands. Obviously that Millennium army facing ONE person would be at advantage.
This is also true AGAINST Anderson (no Nail) or against Alucard (he needed his OWN army).
thethessaliah 1 year ago
the gouls didnt own her, she was just scared, and didnt know what to do, but when she snapped out of it, she pwned the gouls easily.
and the whole point of pip, is his tactics are based on the fact that vampires CAN rip him and his men to shreds easily if given the chance. pip is no match for ceras one on one, in case u didnt know that. pip's hit was strong enough to kill the captain because becoming enslaved by a vampire makes u stronger.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
She didn't snap out, she lost it, she wasn't "driving" when she killed them (it was pure vampire side taking over, not her own skill).
He's not enslaved by Seras. o.O Go and read the thing, they are a team. He's the brains and she's the fists (most of the times). They even have a t-shirt called "Combination: Let's beat bastards together." Unlike the army Alucard has, Pip is on his own willpower, he does whatever he wants and appears when he wants. Seras wanted a fighting partner not a servant.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
Also on strategy: So what? Do you think true warriors only depend on brute strength and powerz? LOL. You get pwned like that (David vs Goliath should be a really old example of this case). In any case, Pip at the end became a superpowered creature BESIDES being a seasoned warrior and a tactical man. He's pretty mean.
Becoming a vampire also makes you stronger.
Why not speak of Vlad or human!Seras? Would they even stand a chance against human!Pip or Integra?
thethessaliah 1 year ago
im not questioning pips strategic ability or his leadership skills, etc. but hes no where near as strong as a vampire like ceras or zorin. and i only ment enslaved, in the sense that ceras absorbed his soul into his own being like alucard did with his army. pip has the same strength as they do. and they are very strong.
and pip made it very clear that when he set up the mines that such tricks were the only defense against such monsters. its very clear that 1 on 1 hes no match for a vampire.
tacoshitter 1 year ago
heres what pip said "we are terrible at fistycuffs (one on one combat) so we are not going to fight fair".
tacoshitter 1 year ago
Oh yeah, I forgot. Heinkel's outcome would depend what she has become. The ending is pretty ambiguous on her and in Integra's outcome (who might become a vampire as she asked Alucard if he wants to -suck- her blood).
Regenerator/!Anderson ish Heinkel and Vampire!Integra would be freakish.
thethessaliah 1 year ago
@tacoshitter Some people say that Dark Walter is faster and more powerful than Nail Anderson on anime vice and deviantart.
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 based on what exactly? nail anderson hit alucard just as much as walter did. neither appear to have any significant speed over the other, based on there fights with alucard. with one hit anderson defeated alucard's army and ceras at the same time while nearly killing alucard in the process. and it only took one half arsed punch from alucard to cripple walter. his body can barley handle punishment at all compared to anderson, the captain, etc.
tacoshitter 5 months ago
@tacoshitter Well tell that to animevice i posted your video over there but they said Walter cut buildings and Walter is good a long range attacks.Also Heinkel and Yumie should have been added Renaldo,M'quive and the rest should have been on level one.Plus Heinkel at the end is now a Regenerator
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 well so what that walter cut buildings, andersons blades shattered special hardened glass that alucard's soldier's couldn't even scratch. the same soldiers that made short work of millenium vampires. not only is his regeneration and durability MUCH stronger than walter, but he can use his blades to both cut his wires defensively, and use them as a powerful ranged weapon. one hit, and walter would most likely be gone.
tacoshitter 5 months ago
@tacoshitter Yeah tell that to animevice
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@tacoshitter Fireheart said that
Since when is shattering enforced glass as impressive as cutting a building in half?
What proof does he have that Anderson's bayonets could cut through Walter's wires? No object or force in the Hellsing universe was ever shown cutting, breaking or snapping Walter's wires.
vikingfromnorth45 5 months ago
@vikingfromnorth45 (i may be wrong) but i checked and as far as i see, vulcanised hardened glass is fictional. therefore to find how strong it is i used the power scaling i used before. the soldiers, who are easily 15+ ton in strength couldn't scratch it. that's just as, if not more impressive than slicing concrete and steel.
his second argument is a fallacy. just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it cant. a better question is what proof is there that his wires "can't" be cut?
tacoshitter 5 months ago
@tacoshitter Refresh my memory. Where was it stated that the familiars that were scratching the glass were packing 15+ tons in strength?
I never said it couldn't happen, so don't try to change my argument. I just said nothing was ever shown to be able to do it, which is true. Of course "something" would be able to break Walter's wires, but where's your proof that Anderson's bayonets are that "something"?
derexfireheart1001 4 months ago
@derexfireheart1001 i just power scaled from ceras's feats. the weapon she used to destroy the blimps would weigh around that much, and she is regarded by alucard as one of the lowest level of vampire there is. millenium soldiers are her level in speed and strength, and alucard's soldiers stomped them.
cause bayonet's can cut through regular wires. i don't see any proof that walter's wires are any more unbreakable.
tacoshitter 4 months ago
@tacoshitter Alucard's soldiers stomped Millennium because they outnumbered them, charged at them full force and impaled them on stakes.They didn't scratch them to death with their bare hands.If Maxwell's barrier had taken the full force of Alucard's charging army and remained intact, your argument would have been spot on.But