John Ramsey finding JonBenet

[cristinapalmer3]

the pedophile theory is the boogey man. The mother Patsy was magna cum laude smart and Miss America pretty, cancer survivor strong and drama queen talented as described by one of the detectives researching the case. Isnt is possible that she accidentally killed her daughter? Just seems so much more likely that anything else, especially as they never allowed to be fully investigated. They stonewalled the investigation and had a PR team to help with the court of public opinion.

[AngelsInFlight22]

Yeah, the body language says a lot. He sounds calm as hell, but his nerves are going wild behind the voice, hence he need to settle the adrenaline by moving his arms. He looks like he's on trial.

[seonfox]

John Ramsey, you are an EVIL man. I would pray for your soul but I cant bring myself to pray for someone who did what you did to an innocent child. There's no doubt that your suicide attempts have failed.. You are scared to meet your end, and I would be too, if I were you.

[ailujeiram]

Honestly there is something fishy about this case. Like everyone else I have an opinion about this case. Either the parents killed her or really there was an intruder. First her parents, yea DNA might have cleared but did ya ever think they might have gotten some strangers DNA n put it on there daughter??? Hmmm. I think that night they got home put jonbenet to bed then set up everything carefully, later woke up jonbenet up fed her pineapple and led her to the basement and murdered her.

[3333sweetie]

@ailujeiram How could they have gotten a stranger's DNA?Also, how could they have deposited in her underwear?

[chelceealexandra]

@tinkerbellxx101 DNA cleared the whole family...

[daisyhinojosa23]

the blanket was around her as if she were tucked in? How sad... Maybe the killer didn't kill her out of hate or anything, but maybe to save her or somethin

[visualkei72]

@daisyhinojosa23

to save her... rrrright, well it looks like he kind of failed right? see i would think this, maybe because she's FUCKING DEAD.

[daisyhinojosa23]

@visualkei72 no i meant save her soul, free it you know? Maybe he was religious and thought beauty padgents were sins or something, and he killed her before she would of started living the life of a prostitute im just saying

[Melanielovesmusic100]

This is really sad :( How awful that her dad had to find her...I can't even imagine how horrible that must have been.

[gspence56]

Bad news: Dad was the killer, Pollyanna.

[Gailoftheblackroable]

The parents did not kill her every one thinks that because no one can come up with a suspect, dna says they did not kill her daughter they searched the house and found NOTHING of her being sexually assulted by her parents you people need todo some reaserch!

[danimal90210]

he fucked his daughters kutchy

[pjmgame]

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

[danimal90210]

whats wrong with you you fucking bitch ass trick on the dick snake

[pjmgame]

Listen to me YOU NO GOOD FUCK these people lost their fucking 6 year old to a monster on christmas day. A 6 year old was beaten and sexaully assulted. And then you put your fucking funny comment and YOU SPIT IN HERE FACE. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO LOSE YOUR CHILD TO A MONSTER ON CHRISTMAS DAY WHERE SHE IS SEXAULLY ASSULTED AND BEATEN TO DEATH. DO YOU CARE ABOUT THIS FAMILY? YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR YOUR BEHAVIOR. IT DISGUSTS ME.

[pjmgame]

YOU MONSTER

[pjmgame]

You really are fucking low. You'll end up rotting in jail real soon because you do stupid things in life. No need to tell me cause I already know.

[earthangel98]

@ danimal90210

Fuck you you monster. I hope your child dies too.

[SilverstreamXOX]

@danimal90210 You wouldn't feel the same way if some probably 40 year old man came into your house, had sex with your daughter, then strangled her. Who cares what she did before she was killed? All that matters now is that they still havn't caught the son of a bitch who did it. I hope you and that piece of shit burn in hell.

[pjmgame]

@adamwasiak What are your sources? And if the parents did do it then what was their motive to kill their daughter?

[pjmgame]

@adamwasiak My name is Philip. My last name is my business. If the parents killed Jonbenet then what was their motive? There has to be a motive for them to commit this horror. Also, could you please list your sources? Thanks

[pjmgame]

@adamwasiak  What was the motive?

[pjmgame]

@adamwasiak I strongly believe the parents are innocent. What is your source that she wrote the letter?

[pjmgame]

@adamwasiak I have and there are no sources listed. Could you please give me your sources?

[adamwasiak]

@pjmgame I have removed my comments. If you want to discuss further, please email me by private message. I'll gladly discuss with you.

[pjmgame]

@adamwasiak Your email?

[InstantStar05]

@pjmgame I cant even imagine what it feels like to lose your own child in such a way, but you speak as if you know the answer yourself. There is so much altered evidence in the case that its literally impossible to tell what happened. I mean come on the window being broken and being a part in the case wasn't even brought to attention until a year later. I'm not blaming anyone it just smells like something fishy.

[pjmgame]

@InstantStar05 I agree. I also believe child beauty pageants should be illegal. There are too many sexual predators and pedophiles in this world. Beauty Pageants MUST be illegal.

[seonfox]

@pjmgame No asshole, YOU should be ashamed of yourself, it's because of MORONS like you that Justice will NEVER be served for JonBenet in this lifetime. If John Ramsey wasn't in such a shitty situation already, I'd want to make him dead.

[pjmgame]

@seonfox YOU'RE FUCKING SICK!!!!!!! Her parents DID NOT murder her. Jonbenet was killed by a sexual preadtor. The Ramseys have been CLEARED already you fucking dumbass.

[pjmgame]

@seonfox YOU'RE FUCKING SICK!!!!!!!!! The Parents have already been CLEARED you fucking dumbass!!!!! Jonbenet was killed by a sexual preadtor.

[p9byrd]

Is John Ramsey still searching for the killer, just like OJ?

[90Rhapsody]

he dont seems very emotional...but i dont think the parents guilty...i hope im right.that poor baby...

[cutespeedlauren]

John Ramsey did not kill her, nor did Patsy. It was probably some crrep that showed up at all her pageants hoping for a chance to strike and rape her.

[J0Br0H8ers22]

i know!!!! i hate how every1 blames the parents..... its some creepy stalker guy!

[lovelifelovemusic08]

i agree with that, maybe they wanted her out of the pageants :S

[larryr68]

A virgin child killed on the winter solstice. This sounds like a human sacrifice.

[christmas1971]

Larry everyone thinks this stuff is nuts, I did too. and I have an educational background in psychology. Untill, I started becoming obsessed with true crime and digging really deep into stuff. Have you heard of The Tracy 60? That lead me to some Jon Benet info and then Arizona Wilder stuff om me if you want to know. Crazy. True or not, not sure but people who do not think there are Satanic ritualistic cults have never been a Psychologist believe me. search Arizona Wilder see what she says.

[RRCLshade45]

Who would kill there own child that way?? Have you seen the world we live in?

[Kinkajogu]

It was probably some rapist who showed up to all of her beauty pageants.

[DimSimToughBitch]

wat exactly r u saying? he did not kill his daughter!

[LadyMcHOLDEM]

On Dec 22, 1996 Jonbenet entered her last beauty pageant. She won a metal & was crowned Little Miss Christmas.

I believe the man that murdered Jonbenet was involved with Beauty Pageants

thru make up, costume design, seamstress, or photographer.

A CHILD'S BEAUTY PAGEANT....

WHAT A GREAT PLACE FOR A PEDOPHILE TO HANG OUT

WITHOUT BEING NOTICED.

Did he deliver a costume to the home

He knew they would be @ the Christmas

party, & that is when he entered the home thru the basement window.

[cathjolln]

@LadyMcHOLDEM this is EXACTLY what i thought! i think it may be someone who they know. i could NEVER live with this if i were to be the killer. i couldnt live with a guilty consience. i would've owned up. but then again... i wouldnt have done it in the first place :(

[LadyMcHOLDEM]

@cathjolln YES! It was someone fm the beauty pageant....He knew they would be at that Christmas Party & that's when he entered the house thru the basement window

and used the suit case to exit the window.

The Parents Did Not Kill Their Baby! They Loved That Beautiful Child

Pedophiles in Beauty Pagents..... A Nightmare

[cathjolln]

@LadyMcHOLDEM first.. why would they kill a young child? 2nd.. why would they d it on christmas 3. is there something we dont know about the ramsey's? have they had an argument with a judge or rival in the past?

[LadyMcHOLDEM]

@cathjolln Some people do kill their children but warning signs are usually there...

Casey Anthony for example. She lied, cheated & stole fm everyone that loved her.

The Ramsey Family did not lie, cheat or steal that we know of.

[marathon1974]

@LadyMcHOLDEM I think that's a bingo there. They guy knew the Ramsey family and vice versa. They entertained at their home all the time so there's high probability it was someone like that who went to previous gatherings at the Ramsey home.

[AdamKazam]

I'm sorry, but people who make these comments about a "pedophile" doing it have completely looked past the evidence. The sexual abusing was scratches on her vaginal wall. It wasn't to hurt her, the person was curious and not sexually matured. Secondly, the strangle marks on the neck show no signs of ligature dragging of scratching; therefore, the person was around her height (she was 4"7). Thirdly the ransom note matched 23/26 of Patsy's characters.

[IntuitSpirit]

@AdamKazam Youu have valid points. The parents covered up for their son, Burke. In their world, image is everything. He had hurt Jonbenet before; he was jealous of her. When Patsy did not hang up the phone properly, a boy's voice could be heard asking, "What do I do? What did you find?" The father replies, "We're not speaking to you." And every handwriting expert will tell you that the ranson note is written by Patsy. Surprise, surprise.

[3333sweetie]

@IntuitSpirit How do u know he hurt her? How did Burke hurt Jonbenet?

[IntuitSpirit]

@3333sweetie

I don't know if he hurt her enough to kill her, but it's certainly possible, isn't it?

If your child killed your other child, would you protect him?

Would you cover up for him? Most parents would.

They just lost one child; why lose another?

There is no doubt in my mind that the Ramseys covered up Jonbenet's death.

Motive, means, opportunity--it's all there.

Read "Forensic Thoughtprints" by Dr. Andrew Hodges. Mind-blowing stuff.

[3333sweetie]

@IntuitSpirit whatabout that DNA found in her underwear which was from some unknown male? I think they might've hired someoen to kill her. The whole family was in on it, I think. Was burke unwilling to talk about it then, or even now?

[IntuitSpirit]

@3333sweetie

The DNA is iffy, especially when JB's father threw himself on her body,

thereby contaminating any potential evidence.

Why would they hire someone to kill JB?

And what would possess a parent to tart up their BABY and parade her around like that?!

That is just sick and wrong!

Yes, Burke has been silent since the murder.

Read the book when you get a chance; his drawings are in there.

Whatever happened, I pray that there will be justice for JB.

[3333sweetie]

@IntuitSpirit ok i'll check. but isn't it natural to touch a loved one's body? Moroever, how reliable is 'touch DNA?" sicne usay that the touch DNA's iffy?

[3333sweetie]

@IntuitSpirit Do you think jonbenet would've been messed up, had she lived? she enjoyed doing beauty pageants. Pageants at six years of age is disgusting. She needs to learn about good values, liek kindness, love, etc, not superficial things liek outer beauty. What morals are her folks teaching her then?

[IntuitSpirit]

@3333sweetie

I really can't talk right now, but you will find everything online, ok?

"A Mother Gone Bad: The Hidden Confession of Jonbenet's Killer"

by Dr. Andrew G. Hodges.

Yes, it is natural to touch a loved one's body, but it can also be a calculating move.

The Ramseys lied repeatedly throughout the case, so anything is possible.

Yes, I think JB would have had some issues. Who wouldn't?

Especially growing up in a family for whom image was everything...even fatal.

[3333sweetie]

@IntuitSpirit Why does everyone here talk about how good she would've been? They don't know her/ IS society really that vain? whatever happened to beauty comes from inside? i didnt know they all lied. is it true that when the detective asked john to look again, he ran straight to the basement where jonbenet was? also, did u know their friend, fleet white, made an 'accidental 911call on december 23, 1996?

[IntuitSpirit]

@3333sweetie

BECAUSE SHE WAS AN INNOCENT CHILD!

Goodness has nothing to do with vanity!

Do I have to know someone to wish them well? Or ill?

Yes, it's true about John running to the basement, and yes, they lied repeatedly.

As for White, their friendship ended after JB's death.

Just do some research; I'm no expert.

Good night.

[3333sweetie]

@IntuitSpirit Yes, she was a child and so tragic. But what if she were an adult? we need to try to treat everyone equally, no?

[seonfox]

@3333sweetie JonBenet didn't even enjoy pageants. She wanted to be a normal kid and play with her friends! It was her crazy mother who was obsessed with them.

[3333sweetie]

@seonfox u sre? also, does the DNA not matching her folks means they did NOT kill her? what if they hired someone to kill her? it's possible.

[seonfox]

@IntuitSpirit OMG. A 9 Y/O boy did NOT do this. If you guys would look at the facts and real evidence you would know that JonBenet's vaginal opening was TWO TIMES the normal size for a six year old. SHe had a BRUISED cevix. The ME said that the abuse had to have been going on for a while. She went to the doctor 33 freakin times in three years and always had yeast infections and vaginitis. She was a little girl. WHY can't people put 2 and 2 together!?

[IntuitSpirit]

@seonfox

My point exactly! Forensic Pathologist Cyril Wecht has this to say about the case:

"If she had been taken to a hospital emergency room, and doctors had seen the genital evidence,

her father would have been arrested."

Who had constant access to Jonbenet?

Mommy. Daddy. Brother.

I think Burke fought with her, I think John molested her, and I think Patsy found out and just lost it.

All played a role in her death; all are guilty.

[KeepTrue56]

@IntuitSpirit sicko to even think of that story.

[IntuitSpirit]

@KeepTrue56

Why do you call me a "sicko"?

I give a dissenting opinion, and instead of a mature reply, you resort to name-calling?!

Newsflash: Truth is usually stranger than fiction; parents have been known to molest their children!

Truth can be too much to face, but face it we must, if we are to retain our humanity!

Keep true, indeed!

By the way, I always believed MJ was innocent.

Gosh, I hope that doesn't make me a "sicko" to think that. ;)

[KeepTrue56]

@IntuitSpirit You're saying a 9 yr old boy molested and played a part in his little sisters death. parents haven been known to molest their children... well their was never any proof that a family member molesteed her, which makes one wonder why are you so persistantly hoping on that scenario. U viewed my profile..cool.

[IntuitSpirit]

@3333sweetie

Oops, that's the name of the website. :)

The book is called "A Mother Gone Bad: The Hidden Confession of Jonbenet's Killer",

by Andrew G. Hodges.

By the way, the police want to speak with Burke, but he refuses to cooperate.

Wonder why...

[3333sweetie]

@IntuitSpirit what's the name of the book again? If her dad threw himself on her, how can that contaminate theDNA? Also, how would his throwing himself on her contaminate DNA in her underwear? I think it's possible they hired someoen to kill her.

[IntuitSpirit]

@3333sweetie

I wrote all the book info on here; just scroll down a bit or check your email.

You just asked me the same question twice. :)

You're not supposed to touch the body at all, that's what I meant.

It was convenient of John to throw himself on JB's body, because if the police found anything suspicious,

he could explain it away, since he had already touched her.

Anyway, as of 2008, "touch" DNA has cleared all family members.

[seonfox]

@AdamKazam You are a FUCKING MORON if you think a 9 y/o could do what was done to JonBenet. When the neighbors woke up from a dead sleep because they heard a BLOOD CURDLING 5 SECOND SCREAM that abruptly ended, that was JonBenet calling for her brother to save her life. SHe trusted him. I would put my life on that.

[KeepTrue56]

@seonfox funny how the neighbors hear a quote "blood curdling 5 second scream that abruptly ended" unquote, but yet didnt call the cops.

[TakeBackAmerica2012]

@KeepTrue56 Not just one but 3 different neighbors heard it. It happened between midnight and 2 a.m. It does seem strange that they didnt' do something to try and figure out what was going on. Doesn't change the facts though. JR and PR repeatedly lied about the facts in this case and stalled, wouldn't turn over phone records, wouldn't come down to police headquarters to be questioned. But went on Larry King.

They know who did this. An unknown male DNA found in 3 places on JBR

[tiedyeganja420]

@LadyMcHOLDEM sounds like you just solved the case

[RandiSierra]

@LadyMcHOLDEM Maybe and knew the layout, the stairs, her room, the uncompleted wine room, Patsy's pen, pad, paintbrush, etc.

[gryphon50c]

@LadyMcHOLDEM I just wonder, if it was a molester, why wouldn't he try to remove her from the home? When have we ever heard of a case of molesting a stranger's child at their home, killing the child, hiding her, lingering to write a note when there is no purpose to it? It just doesn't make sense. Usually they just take the child and go, obviously they would not want to be caught on the premises.

[TakeBackAmerica2012]

@gryphon50c The other male involved with her murder was known to the Ramsey's. Whoever did this had no fear of getting caught. The note was a complete ruse to make this look like something it wasn't. They never counted on sophisticated "touch" dna technology which proved JR a liar. He said he put JB;s longjohns on her. The unknown male's dna was on either side of the waistline of the longjohns, no JR dna anywhere on them. He and Patsy said they picked up ransom note,no prints

[ladylike1980]

The parents didn't do it. But, this is the

most bizaree case I've ever heard.

[chelseadwyer]

Everyone of you who thinks it was the parents, are idiotic and Stupid. Just plan Stupid.

They ruled out the Ramsey's as Innocent. A While Ago. Just because it was an unsolved mystery, doesn't mean her parents did it. Repulsive Imbeciles.

[Baldwin009]

i thought the wife said she found her

[yellaasldk]

I can't believe that people actually think that her parents killed her!  What parents would kill their own child THAT WAY?

[melisastolzenburg]

how do you know crazy gurl and if you do know for pity sake go to the police with it

[XxSugarOverdoseXx]

ppl still don't know who the murderer is? well google search Jon Karr there is ur answer

[crazygurl1139]

John Mark Karr didnt kill Jonbenet

[892lgy7382]

apparently, he made a false confession

[CarleyJC14]

Why is anybody murdered? It is the act of the devil in somebody who kills. When the neighbor heard her scream the killer could no longer take the chance to take her out through the window so he killed her probably then. I think her mouth had been ducktaped and she got it off going down stairs to the basement and screamed.I think she kicked going down stairs and note got kicked out of killers hand or pocket..didnt know where he lost it ..another reason to kill her.

[CuteIzzy66]

that could be true too! that actually makes sense!

[calicarman]

Why would she be murdered by an unknown assassin.

[RuthChristina]

Poor John Ramsey, i dont think he kill JonBenet!

[jem2591]

Me neither :(

[JustJonbenet]

He Didnt

Neitha Did Her Mama

Tha ramseys are innocent

[HaHaHaPaulIsDead]

The Ramseys are guilty! That's GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!

[Muffynbear]

HahahaPaullsDead~

And you are GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY of being a douchebag!!!

[HaHaHaPaulIsDead]

No! He covered up for the murderess!

[il0vehimh0e]

i CANT BELEIVE ANY 0NE W0ULD HAVE THE GUTS T0 SAY THAT.IF YEW WATCHED THE ViDE0 I WATCHED THEN YEW W0ULDVE HEARD THE S0RR0W IN HER V0iCE WHEN SHE CALLED 911.YEW C0ULD BE A GRAMMY WiNNiNG ACT0R AND N0T EVEN PULL THAT 0FF.

[lublyannaline]

I see. I have no idea who did it, but the mom seemed so sorrowful...

just a note, the grammys are for music, not acting.

[plantbiochemist]

excuse me please!!!!!who it that kill the jon binet ramsey? thanks you

[lublyannaline]

her case is unsolved, I don't think anyone really knows who killed her.

[iLoVeLiSaKeLLY]

No one knows but jonbenet and her killer

[zaproot]

It is obvious to me that the mother did it and the father helped cover it up.

[il0vehimh0e]

iTS N0T THAT 0BVI0US AND iF YEW W0ULDVE HEARD THE S0RR0W iN HER V0iCE YEW W0ULDVE TH0UGHT 0THER WiSE.

[lovingtianna]

John karr just wanted his 15 mintutes of shameOk the real killer wil probly never get solved what about trenton dukket

[xbabykatelynohhx]

^^^ i was three too and i knew her name but i didnt know what it was akk about until a few years ago now iam really interested in it and iam heartbroken by it

[joenfra]

why do you care?! you didn't even know her & dressing your 6 year old up like Marilyn Monroe is wrong! she's been dead so long i'm sure every one of you forgot about her until the press brought this shit back up. you should all be more shamed then the murderer.

Karr was released today, the DNA doesn't match & capitalist secular jews strike the media again to brainwash the tools of the USA, whatever the media feeds you with a spoon, you'll eat it up & ask for more!

[OTMAfan]

actually some of us didn't know beacuse we were 3 at the time!! ,(like me)and i  known since i was at least 6

[windowlicker24]

omg that is so sad

[DaftWorld]

his statements are inconsistent, i think he is mentally ill. He has been married twice, one with a 14 year old and one was a 16 year old. He has taught in Thrid world countries, which probably means he got aways with abusing children their.

Lastly, he just look DUMB. He looks boyish, kind of like a Homosexual and that prob. means that he got abuse when he was young. WHY? well because he has married WOMEN, yet he looks feminine..dont know..im in PSych

[Kailalove]

It makes me sick, how people can say that. I doubt you have kids and I highly doubt you know it feels to lose somebody, espicially a child. On Christmas.

[username1503]

Kailalove, what are you talking about? DaftWorld was talking about Karr.

[Kailalove]

I didn't mean to put it there, sorry. Very sorry.

[892lgy7382]

you are talking about john mark karr right, daftworld?

[admicee]

Did you see the video of this Karr guy confessing? He looks brainwashed. I guarantee you he's only gonna answer certain questions. He's already confessed; no need to have an attorney telling him what to say and what not to say.

[starwarped]

i am so glad that the arrested this John Mark Karr.if he did it...seriously,how could someone kill this little girl?i am glad that the ramsey gave the police information about Karr before he was identified as a suspect.John and Patsy lived their lives knowing they were innocent,some did believe they really did it not(as i did),and some others...they just listen to the media tabloids.i hope they are sorry for what they did to them!

[SinnFeinRising]

starwarped: Can I ask you where you got your information that the ramseys gave the police information about Karr before he was arrested. John Ramsey says he has no recollection of every meeting Karr.

[iivili]

ohh.. :o sad