The Trojan Women - Las Troyanas - Τρωάδες (1971) [01/12]

[GreatGrumbledook]

(...) How are ye blind, Ye treaders down of cities, ye that cast Temples to desolation, and lay waste Tombs, the untrodden sanctuaries where lie The ancient dead; yourselves so soon to die!

- shame that this place of vengeance does not allow to make such an comment in the proper way...

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(...) POSEIDON: I give thy boon unbartered. These mine hands Shall stir the waste Aegean; reefs that cross The Delian pathways, jag-torn Myconos, Scyros and Lemnos, yea, and storm-driven Caphêreus with the bones of drownèd men Shall glut him.--Go thy ways, and bid the Sire Yield to thine hand the arrows of his fire. Then wait thine hour, when the last ship shall wind Her cable coil for home! (...)

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(...) PALLAS: When the last ship hath bared her sail for home! Zeus shall send rain, long rain and flaw of driven Hail, and a whirling darkness blown from heaven; To me his levin-light he promiseth O'er ships and men, for scourging and hot death: Do thou make wild the roads of the sea, and steep With war of waves and yawning of the deep, Till dead men choke Euboea's curling bay. So Greece shall dread even in an after day My house, nor scorn the Watchers of strange lands! (...)

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(...) PALLAS: And no man rose and smote him; not a frown Nor word from all the Greeks!

POSEIDON: And 'twas thine hand That gave them Troy!

PALLAS: Therefore with thee I stand To smite them.

POSEIDON: All thou cravest, even now Is ready in mine heart. What seekest thou?

PALLAS: An homecoming that striveth ever more And cometh to no home.

POSEIDON: Here on the shore Wouldst hold them or amid mine own salt foam? (...)

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(...) POSEIDON: Yea; but lay bare thy heart. For this land's sake Thou comest, not for Hellas?

PALLAS: I would make Mine ancient enemies laugh for joy, and bring On these Greek ships a bitter homecoming.

POSEIDON: Swift is thy spirit's path, and strange withal, And hot thy love and hate, where'er they fall.

PALLAS: A deadly wrong they did me, yea within Mine holy place: thou knowest?

POSEIDON: I know the sin Of Ajax, when he cast Cassandra down... (...)

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(...) PALLAS: Blest be thy gentle mood!--Methinks I see A road of comfort here, for thee and me.

POSEIDON: Thou hast some counsel of the Gods, or word Spoken of Zeus? Or is it tidings heard From some far Spirit?

PALLAS: For this Ilion's sake, Whereon we tread, I seek thee, and would make My hand as thine.

POSEIDON: Hath that old hate and deep Failed, where she lieth in her ashen sleep? Thou pitiest her?

PALLAS: Speak first; wilt thou be one In heart with me and hand till all be done? (...)

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(...) And this unhappy one--would any eyes Gaze now on Hecuba? Here at the Gates She lies 'mid many tears for many fates Of wrong. One child beside Achilles' grave In secret slain, Polyxena the brave, Lies bleeding. Priam and his sons are gone; And, lo, Cassandra, she the Chosen One, Whom Lord Apollo spared to walk her way A swift and virgin spirit, on this day Lust hath her, and she goeth garlanded A bride of wrath to Agamemnon's bed. (...)

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(...) O happy long ago, farewell, farewell, Ye shining towers and mine old citadel; Broken by Pallas, Child of Zeus, or still Thy roots had held thee true.

PALLAS: Is it the will Of Zeus's high Brother, to whose hand is given Great power of old, and worship of all Heaven, To suffer speech from one whose enmities This day are cast aside?

POSEIDON: His will it is: Kindred and long companionship withal, Most high Athena, are things magical. (...)

[GreatGrumbledook]

Anyway: It is always a sad thing if the Gods left out of Greek mythology and poetry as there is something important then missing, therefore I will add the proper prologue to this play, a nice little chat between Athena and Poseidon after the destruction of Troy:

POSEIDON: Up from Aegean caverns, pool by pool Of blue salt sea, where feet most beautiful Of Nereid maidens weave beneath the foam Their long sea-dances, I, their lord, am come, Poseidon of the Sea. (...)

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(...) 'Twas I whose power, With great Apollo, builded tower by tower These walls of Troy; and still my care doth stand True to the ancient People of my hand; Which now as smoke is perished, in the shock Of Argive spears. Down from Parnassus' rock The Greek Epeios came, of Phocian seed, And wrought by Pallas' mysteries a Steed Marvellous, big with arms; and through my wall It passed, a death-fraught image magical. The groves are empty and the sanctuaries Run red with blood. (...)

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Unburied Priam lies By his own hearth, on God's high altar-stair, And Phrygian gold goes forth and raiment rare To the Argive ships; and weary soldiers roam Waiting the wind that blows at last for home, For wives and children, left long years away, Beyond the seed's tenth fullness and decay, To work this land's undoing. And for me, Since Argive Hera conquereth, and she Who wrought with Hera to the Phrygians' woe, Pallas, behold, I bow mine head and go Forth from great Ilion and mine altars old.

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(...) When a still city lieth in the hold Of Desolation, all God's spirit there Is sick and turns from worship. --Hearken where The ancient River waileth with a voice Of many women, portioned by the choice Of war amid new lords, as the lots leap For Thessaly, or Argos, or the steep Of Theseus' Rock. And others yet there are, High women, chosen from the waste of war For the great kings, behind these portals hid; And with them that Laconian Tyndarid, Helen, like them a prisoner and a prize. (...)

[GreatGrumbledook]

@billyysands: Brave Wimpy Piglet ran away. Bravely ran away away. When danger reared its ugly head, Wimpy Piglet bravely turned its tail and fled. Yes, brave Wimpy Piglet turned about and gallantly it chickened out, bravely taking to its feet. Wimpy Piglet beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave, Wimpy Piglet!

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@billyysands: Wimpy Piglet was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp, or to have its eyes gouged out, and its elbows broken. To have its kneecaps split, and its body burned away, and its limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Wimpy Piglet! Its head smashed in and its heart cut out, and its liver removed and its bowels unplugged, and its nostrils raped and its bottom burned off, and its pen--

[billyysands]

and they call this western "civilization"?

[GreatGrumbledook]

Both an excellent movie and play! No doubt: If more masterworks of Euripides would have survived the misgiving mood of time, he would even hurl Shakespeare from his throne! It is strange that more than 2000 years ago a poet depicted the shame and hopelessness of the defeated, especially the woman so well.

But don't despair girls: Since Jeanne, the Maid of Orleans, drove the English out of France women know that they can to war and arms fly too and die in battle rather than living in slavery!

[billyysands]

this is not civlization

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@billycans: Truly Bolshevism or something even worse must have subdued a country if it will be ever of any importance what a wimp like you has to say about civilization in general or Greek civilization in particular! May mighty Zeus strike you dead with his lighting bolts for thus upbraiding his most fair and warlike daughter, who destroyed Troy out of her angry mood!

[billyysands]

i'd make you like my boots

and then thank me for the privelege

scum

[GreatGrumbledook]

@billyysands: Dear me! The wimp is starting to threaten me! I am afraid as hell right now! The mighty wimp is coming after me! Help! The wimp is coming! I really would like to know how your environment is able to cope with your existence without exploding in roaring laughter all the time; I guess it must be hard for especially for the women.

[billyysands]

how is that a threat?

its hypothetical

IF you ever THREATENED ME then in response i'd

make you bark like a dog

just like ban seagal did in bugsy

its not a threat because

you and i will never meet

i have no desire to meet you

so stay in france far away from me and i'll stay here in

boston and no one need s to have hurt feelings

[GreatGrumbledook]

@billyysands: I could never ever threaten a little wimp like you! Even if I would try with all my heart and soul I would always explode in roaring laughter while trying! How do the people in your vicinity only survive the moment when you are entering a room or start to whine about being a real man or how blessed by God your little America is. Even the most patriotic American would not be able to contain himself in such a moment of divine comedy!

[billyysands]

you know i think i would like to spank you

and i think youd enjoy that

[GreatGrumbledook]

@billyysands: The little wimp is a piglet too! No wonder as there was never a wimp without being a piglet as well, Jesus probably most of all. But mighty Rome brought him to justice and so will it be with the wimp here; anyway: I am not into these kind of things but would enjoy to see the wimpy piglet to pour gasoline over himself and then inflame himself as a protest for world peace or something wimpy like that.

[billyysands]

well i ertainly dont have to wrry about meeting you in heaven! lol

see you in hell then Lucretia -

love Sextus Tarquinius (evette you know i love you!) rofl

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@billyysands: On the contrary wimpy piglet! A papal bull for general absolution brought me and brother Cesare to heaven; Saint Peter was furious but I decided to throw one of my famous wine and anthrax parties to cool things down but it was too much anthrax for God-Father, Jesus, the arch-angels, all the apostles and the God-Mother so only the Holy Spirit endured but we recalled the Satan and the fallen angels from exile and so all hope is truly lost for the wimpy piglets!

[billyysands]

Psychopathy is a psychological construct that describes chronic immoral and antisocial behavior. The term is often used interchangeably with sociopathy. In the ICD-10 diagnosis criteria, the terms antisocial/dissocial personality disorder are used.

The term is used as a definition in law, for example, "psychopathic personality disorder" under the Mental Health Act

[GreatGrumbledook]

@billyysands: Dear me! The wimpy piglet does once more whine about its mental health problems; I wish I could help him like that courageous man in China who pushed recently a likewise canine creature over a bridge as he says a suicide is egoistic and does harm public good because the said person caused a traffic jam.

[billyysands]

1983 of the UK as well as to denote a severe condition often related to antisocial or dissocial personality disorder as defined by the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R).[6] The term "psychopathy" is often confused with psychotic disorders. It is estimated that approximately one percent of the general population are psychopaths

[billyysands]

you are one crazy bitch

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@billyysands: To counter this sexist slur I will call the wimpy piglet a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch..

[billyysands]

i want you

you hairy smelly french wench

i bet you smell like blue cheese when you get hot

oh reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeene!

[GreatGrumbledook]

@billyysands: It was unfortunate of me to notify the wimpy piglet of my female sex; it was necessary to expose the piglet as piglet but I prefer the former whining of the piglet to this base sexist slur; it was divine comedy to witness the wimpy piglet whining about being a real man, his god blessed America (cursed be the God that suffers such wimpy piglets to walk this beautiful earth!) and of course trying to give me lectures about mercy and compassion...

[billyysands]

you have a pig fetish dont you

squeeeeeeeeeeeel like a pig!

[GreatGrumbledook]

@billyysands: Why should I? As the wimpy piglet does it pretty excellent itself but then again it was born that way; but I like to have piglets impaled alive and then roasted upon open fire...

[billyysands]

oh so you your own of those man hating lesbians that like die Masturbation ?

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@billyysands: I am far from hating men, as they are a very rare species indeed; there are mostly wimps and piglets around, which seldom have the shape of a man and even more rarely the mind, heart and soul of a man; but I guess I resemble more warlike Jeanne: "the said woman is treacherous, cunning, cruel, athirst for the spilling of human blood, seditious, inciting to tyranny, and blasphemous of God in her commands and revelations." and prefer bloodshed and carnage to sexual pleasure...

[billyysands]

serious question if this does NOT turn you on..why dont you just ignore it..you notice i ignore you when you ignore me no? you must find me attactive in some strange way..frenchy

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@billyysands: Dear me! The wimpy piglet is trying logics: According to the wimpy piglet it is a sign of being attractive if women react on sexist slur and mean sexual remarks offended! I guess the piglet is wandering the world using foul language and dirty names towards women and thinks itself pretty attractive for all the counter-insults, spitting and beating he receives for it! And the only serious question I want to her from the wimpy piglet is if it should burn itself and the answer is yes!

[billyysands]

you know you want me frenchie

[GreatGrumbledook]

@billyysands: I want the wimpy piglet what? Want it to pour gasoline over itself and then inflame itself in the name of world peace? Sure. Want the wimpy piglet to be quartered or to be broken on the wheel? Naturally, yes. Want the wimpy piglet s bones grind to dust and with its blood and it to make a paste, and of the paste a coffin I will rear and make two pasties of its shameful head, and bid that strumpet, its unhallowed dam, like to the earth swallow her own increase? Definitely, of course.

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@billyysands: As for the whining about ignoring (the unloved alternative to the wimpy piglet ending its disgraceful and most feeble life): Like in case of personal messages the wimpy piglet could, if it possessed any mental abilities, long learned that it only needs to stop replying to me; I did not start this and therefore I cannot end it... to quote Shakespeare: "The sum of all our answer is but this: We would not seek a battle, as we are; Nor, as we are, we say we will not shun it."

[billyysands]

get a life bitch i dont want your froggie smelly ass

go bother the Bosche

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@billyysands: I will counter the sexist slur by calling wimpy piglet a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch...

[billyysands]

listen here you moistened bint go find the nearest bidet ican smell you from here

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@billyysands: Allo, dappy American wimps and Monsieur Dimwit President, who has the brain of a duck, you know. So, we French fellows outwit you a second time! How you Americans say, 'I one more time, mac, unclog my nose in your direction', sons of a window-dresser! So, you think you could out-clever us French folk with your silly knees-bent running about advancing behavior?! I wave my private parts at your aunties, you cheesy lot of second hand electric donkey-bottom biters.

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@billyysands: As for the vile attempt of the wimpy piglet, to insult the famous and warlike sister of France, Germany, by desecrate the holy language of Moliere, Racine and Voltaire and using mean slut towards the Germans, I will reply in lieu of Germany thus to the so-called nation of the wimpy piglet: "You don't frighten us, American pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Lincoln president, you and all your silly American wimps..."

[billyysands]

take a bath brush your teeth

smelly french bint

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@billyysands: What? More than a week is passed and no answer from the wimpy piglet? I guess it finally had wet itself and ran away and therefore must be mocked in the way great German minstrel Walter von der Vogelweide (not idly had I attended German lessons in school) would have done it: Bravely bold Wimpy Piglet, rode forth from America. It was not afraid to die, O brave Wimpy Piglet. It was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways. Brave, brave, brave, brave Wimpy Piglet!

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"...I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a!" - This may be a lesson for American wimps like the wimpy piglet to insult those who are far above them by law of nature and of nations!

[billyysands]

shave your armpits

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@billyysands: No chance, American bed-wetting types. I burst my pimples at you and call your door-opening request a silly thing, you tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms! Agh. Right! That settles it! Yes, depart a lot at this time, and cut the approaching any more or we fire arrows at the tops of your heads and make castanets out of your testicles already!

[billyysands]

get help-svp, aide professionnelle de recherche

[GreatGrumbledook]

@billyysands: The American is your enemy; and your enemy, as I tell you, naturally, by that antipathy which is in him, and also providentially, and this in divers respects. You could not get an honest or honorable Peace from him: it was sought by the time of Napoleon; it was not attained. It could not be attained with honor and honesty. It could not be attained with honor and honesty. And truly when I say that, I do but say He is naturally throughout an enemy; an enmity is put into him by God.

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@billyysands: Ha ha haaa ha! And now, remain gone, illegitimate-faced bugger-folk! And, if you think you got a nasty taunting this time, you ain't heard nothing yet, dappy Amercian wimps! Thpppt!

[billyysands]

now i'm begining to feel sorry for you seriously seek help..its an internet flame war and internet arguement, calm down take whatever the french equivelent for a valium is and step away from the keyboard! your beginning to scare me b&tch. thank god france has gun control..

[millyleeloo]

Thanks for putting this up but can you tell me what part i can find Athena because were doing this for out classical theatre peice at college.

Gracias por presentar este pero le puede decirme lo que la Parte I puede encontrar Athena porque hacían este para el teatro clásico peice en el colegio.

[clepsydra9]

Thank you so much.

[DarivsArgentina]

¡Gracias por este esfuerzo!

[Hyde7Z7]

Thank you for uploading this!

[Hyde7Z7]

Thank you for uploading this!