NLP is a generic term for Psychology.. I can easily rid someone of any pain.. emotional or not.. in a matter of seconds.. using techniques some would be considered NLP some not.. The Sedona Method is an excellent technique if anyone knows about it
i think derren hypnotizes him so he can't move. and upon entering the ride, he realizes he cannot move, hence his amplified fear. But this is amazing haha
he said it like that, because so his brain would interpret it differently and be scared when he went for the ride. What he did was confusion with the hand shake on the brain.
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its hypnotism and its being used against us all the time? do u live in an apt with old newspapers stacked to the cieling? hes a magician....this guy is either a stooge or they did something to the ride to make it very scary i hate u people that are like omg its hyptnotism and nlp
hypnotism is a profession idiot. the human mind is not that perfect. just look at advertising. why do people buy such stupid shit? the answer is in the subconscious. dont come to conclusions so fast, use research. if i just believed this without proving it to myself, then i would be a fool as well. i challenge you to research the legitimacy of hypnotism.
see now before u go attacking people maybe ud like to look at what i said, hypnotism is viewed by most people as controlling peoples minds, that is not what is it at all, u cant make someone scared shitless by touching there shoulder, further more u have no idea what i know or how ive come to know what i know so your the ignorant one for assuming that. and put it on the line.....ur right its no card trick, its no hypnotism trick either i assure u of that, i dont blame u for your stupidity either
the shoulder lowered his defences. the words and body language control him by programming his mind with a select few words and thoughts. it works humans are weak and can be manipulated.
you talk as if hypnotism and NLP were weird esoteric processes, when in fact, they are very understandable skills that work, in certain situations and on certain individuals.
the "hard" part is finding suggestible subjects (although it's not THAT hard), and having enough confidence to perform this stuff.
DB is very open about all his skills, and most of what he does is readily available on the internet. What he has that many people DON'T have, is an incredible level of showmanship and honesty
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basic nlp. builds rapport, induces him in trance state by interrupting regular handshake which puts his subconscious mind in a trance (because you are breaking a automated subconscious action the mind doesn't know where to go), at that point his subconscious mind is very open to suggestions, and he tells him to be scared etc..
Derren does not seem to but into the philosophy that worms it's way into NLP. It is more like he thinks it is just play acting in the mind, even though you can target enhancing or bringing forth sertain feelings and thoughts that can get out of hand as it already does with depression,
and conditions involving halucinations.
However, for years Tourettes was thought to be a psychiatric condition, and the way tics are triggered at times seem to support this and that was wrong.
When people watch videos of me having tics they sometimes have them themselves, but I have caused people to sway as a result of the metter in the verse of a 48 page poem without being present and absent any deliberate attempt to suggest they sway by sounds absent any suggestion. It is as if their filters go down when reading and they become sound responsive like me, only meter causes it, because my meter is for movement was ment fo the events in the story and not to cause swaying.
. If I write a poem that starts the visually for a person who uses visual language and draw them in using all senses, will they be more moved by my meter? What if there is more to suggestion than a subconscious, since their is no conscious or unconscious part of people with Tourettes that wants to bark because a bag was blown across the street or dog barked. Is it belief of filters that drop when you know about a person just enough to pass them, or in the case of Tourettes you do not need to?
Some things we do, like shaking hands and tying shoelaces, are done automatically as a "whole". Interrupting these things in the middle induces a split second of confusion which can be taken advantage of to plant suggestive thoughts, which is what Derren does here brilliantly.
Derren and his team are great. For those of you interested in knowing how he induces others so quickly, look at the work of Milton H. Ericson M.D. The father of conversational hypnosis. NLP has a built in model based on his work. Derren is AMAZING!
You know what I've noticed? When you think about fear, you actually become scared. When you think about your own fears, you get a sense of terror. When someone suddenly talks about fear like that to you, the force is even bigger and when you're going to do something that's genuinely found scary, the effect is as seen is this video. It's awesome though.
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jep true, but he also ankers the feeling of being scared to that dudes left shoulder. he touches his left shoulder after that guy told him about the people coming out there scared and right before he pushes him inside he touches his left shoulder again... that`s just another little part of the whole thing... but of cause without the fast induction into a hypnotic state it wouldn`t work
ya he anchored him really good. He said things to like, "You like to see people coming out scared" "Scared" scared" so when he came out he was scared.
What Derren Brown does to the participant is simply hypnosis. What's weird is the way that most people's brains decide what to retain and discard as frightening. He says that it's not frightening but that's only subjectively true because past experience tells people that ghost trains aren't really going to hurt them. Some people would find it scary each time and they are not necessarily wrong to do so because it is an assumption to think that an experience is always going to be the same.
He used what I believe is called an Erickson Handshake. You'll notice he doesn't complete and follow through with the handshake. The carnival operator's pattern is thus interrupted and leaves him in a state of confusion and open to suggestion.
when he does the break the pattern is interupted for a second his mind is open for suggestion thats when darren hypmotizers him to beleive its scary somthing like that anyway
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He pressed his wrist at the point were his veins are, building up blood pressure, THen plunged him into a dark environment were it further heightened the effect. Gave him the sensation of being scared.
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yeah it is a hypnosis technique but before that he was questioning why he told him to sit and then locked him in at that point his mind was thinking WTF..which is called pattern interupt..after that he used the handshake..--but thats only what I think and im not an expert ;)
Yeah, he's using NLP (or summink like that) and he says STOP thinking right now.. your subconsiousness automaticly stops thinking at that point (and sorry for my horrible english)
Debating whether NLP works or not is not valid. If one did research on it then anyone would know the theory behind it. In this case, it was hilarious. It wasn't really overloading it was only two suggestions plus pattern interrrupt. Which is very cool. I would imagine, at least for me, overloading would refer to at least 4 suggestions in two sentences. No? Again only an opinion.
No, look, if NLP affects people, then obviusly it does work. That's like arguing electric torches don't work whne they shine a clear light in front of you. NLP does affect epole, so it does work.
"No, look, if NLP affects people, then obviusly it does work. That's like arguing electric torches don't work whne they shine a clear light in front of you. NLP does affect epole, so it does work."
Non sequitur. You define NLP as something that affects people. That is not the definition of NLP. You have to show that NLP is indeed the mechanism that affects them.
Well that uses scientific method. He is using NLP, they are being affected. When he does not ue NLP, they are not affected. Provable by repition and control. And NLP has to affect someone by definition. Its programming, thus, if you don't program, its no NLP.
There you go. (Sure, he fails sometimes ut its within scientific accuracy).
"Well that uses scientific method. He is using NLP, they are being affected. When he does not ue NLP, they are not affected. Provable by repition and control. And NLP has to affect someone by definition. Its programming, thus, if you don't program, its no NLP."
Based on that, I can safely say you haven't payed attention in science class.
This is called NLP. You see, shaking someones hand is like an automatic action, but Derren grabs the masn wrist with his other hand, breaking it and putting him into a trance-like state.
"This is called NLP. You see, shaking someones hand is like an automatic action, but Derren grabs the masn wrist with his other hand, breaking it and putting him into a trance-like state."
"Neuro-Linguistic Programming. Look it up on wiki for more info."
Well, there is no scientific study that substantiates NLP. It is baseless scientifically speaking. On the other hand, there are studies that debunk it.
Arrgghhh. Look you don't even know waht NLP really is, and look, when he grabs the arm from handshake is a practice from NLP to break a subcosniuc sequence. And by well it works I mean that if it's false, WHY THE HELL DOES IT WORK???
Sorry, but biologically based psychology (the dominate school of our time) supports NLP. So maybe you should learn a bit more about the stuff.
Seriously, the idea that our brain works on two levels, and subconscious actions that cannot be controled by the conscious (I can't tie a tie if I consider what I'm doing, but subconsciously I can) can be used to manipulate the sub- and conscious is rooted in Psychology.
"Sorry, but biologically based psychology (the dominate school of our time) supports NLP."
Show me some scientific studies that confirm it then.
"the idea that our brain works on two levels, and subconscious actions that cannot be controled by the conscious can be used to manipulate the sub- and conscious is rooted in Psychology."
And you're saying that by those mechanics you can control a person like Derren can? Show me the studies, man.
Who is John Edwards? What the hell? It does work. You prove to me it dosn't. Look a week ago you asked what NLP was, now you seem to be an expert. So just shut up.
"AMY: Well, there are differing opinions on NLP. There's not a shred of scientific support for it, outside of its own self-sustaining industry, plus a lot of mentalists.
DERREN: Well, I not a big a fan of it, but I've done it and think in some contexts there's some use--that's a whole other conversation--but it's a dirty word as far as I'm concerned."
"Hehe. I notice you're ignoring everything else I said. Spoken like a true pompous idiot."
I'm sorry, I did reply to everything you wrote, but I hit reply on your same comment every time. Maybe they got erased, coz that's the last message I wrote. I dunno, youtube sucks. I'll rewrite, hold on.
I've sent a private message to Zaniac0 with links to an interview where Derren admits that NLP has no scientific foundation, and a scientific study that debunks NLP.
NLP is not replicable in scientific study, that is true. But the fact that you've, so quickly, gone from "what is nlp" to "NLP is a fake, and I know that for sure" makes me think "wikipedia has something to do with this".
Study biological psychology for 3 years then come see me.
Its all in the trance inducing handshake. He applied pressure to his arm with his left hand while he shakes with his right. This pressure is proven to intice people into a trance-like staight, which derren takes adantage of. Excellent!!!
Once the subconscious has familiarized itself with a mundane task, like a handshake, once something that starts out as regular as ever, but suddenly gets interrupted or changed, the subconscious mind seeks for guidance and leaves it in an easily suggestible state. Notice what he says, he always speaks fast so it doesn't sound like he's making simple mistakes, but this is what he says:
"It's just that its interesting sometimes to know why we do our jobs and to think about the things that 'affect us, haunt us, and the things we really scare' about."
for all the ppl who are to dumb to understand how he does this , pay attention at the moment he thanks him and want to shake the man's hand, the man is confused on that moment and derren grabs his chance and prgrams him xD !! POST MORE DB VIDS!!
0:52 right there is that wonderful moment where you go, "Okay, here we go." Fucking awesome!!
IDoNotBlameYou 8 months ago
NLP is a generic term for Psychology.. I can easily rid someone of any pain.. emotional or not.. in a matter of seconds.. using techniques some would be considered NLP some not.. The Sedona Method is an excellent technique if anyone knows about it
mentalistlance 1 year ago
i think derren hypnotizes him so he can't move. and upon entering the ride, he realizes he cannot move, hence his amplified fear. But this is amazing haha
iig0tem 1 year ago
Operator - "I cant move"
Derren Brown - "Why not?"
Operator - "Cause I just shat myself..."
god604 1 year ago 8
There's one he prepared earlier.
Great show.
PS no NLP was used.
P1eski 1 year ago
he tried to open the bar but he realized he cant so he played it off like he was just leaning over holding on to it.
mtdeezy 1 year ago
Derren Brown has hypnotized me to watch YouTube all day instead of fixing the gas leak!
SaviourSole 1 year ago
run it in 480p and it's not choppy at all
radikalmusicTO 1 year ago
he shat himself
flameknight7 1 year ago
The things we really scare about...
FB0102 1 year ago
@FB0102
he said it like that, because so his brain would interpret it differently and be scared when he went for the ride. What he did was confusion with the hand shake on the brain.
BillMan2002 1 year ago
@BillMan2002
Correct, that second of confusion bypasses most peoples critical factor allowing him to plant the suggestions of fear and things "that haunt us"!
countsmyth 8 months ago
as you can tell 0:54 to 1:03 was the hypnotism
XHANKILLERX 2 years ago 4
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looks like derren is the devil
madzane94 2 years ago
Indeed, I thought the same thing.
tracifish 2 years ago
hahahaha! "I fucking shat myself"
dycarbon1 2 years ago 6
I can only imagine after Derren was done with him this ride was really terrifying! Lol!
sphinx013 2 years ago 2
Was that ride just a quick loop around?
or was it cut and shown when he comes out?
Excellent vid.
JennylovesMJ 2 years ago
0:53 - Handshake Interrupt, broked behavior + suggestion
that is nlp
evilish7 2 years ago 6
totally, i love the suggestion "things that *haunt* us, things that we really *scare* about" or whatever
sauceykat 2 years ago
damn it.everybodies learnin this stuff now.
think god that I got a head start on all of it b4 youtube exploded with it
lopytube 2 years ago
is it just my wood computer or is this vid a bit choppy..?
Curtistoocool 2 years ago 37
its really choppy
mazi710 2 years ago 2
@Curtistoocool it was choppy but i switched it to 480p and it wasnt choppy no more so try that it might help
TibblesFTW 1 year ago
damn, I want to get on that ride (with Derren hypnotizing me before
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"I can't move" as he wipes his mouth.... bad acting brotha
bacardee 2 years ago
its hypnotism, and its being used against us all the time
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its hypnotism and its being used against us all the time? do u live in an apt with old newspapers stacked to the cieling? hes a magician....this guy is either a stooge or they did something to the ride to make it very scary i hate u people that are like omg its hyptnotism and nlp
yomomma1086 2 years ago
hypnotism is real and very possible, it's just suggesting the subconcious to believe things
d4m4s74 2 years ago 4
hypnotism is a profession idiot. the human mind is not that perfect. just look at advertising. why do people buy such stupid shit? the answer is in the subconscious. dont come to conclusions so fast, use research. if i just believed this without proving it to myself, then i would be a fool as well. i challenge you to research the legitimacy of hypnotism.
plokoon761 2 years ago 4
see now before u go attacking people maybe ud like to look at what i said, hypnotism is viewed by most people as controlling peoples minds, that is not what is it at all, u cant make someone scared shitless by touching there shoulder, further more u have no idea what i know or how ive come to know what i know so your the ignorant one for assuming that. and put it on the line.....ur right its no card trick, its no hypnotism trick either i assure u of that, i dont blame u for your stupidity either
yomomma1086 2 years ago
the shoulder lowered his defences. the words and body language control him by programming his mind with a select few words and thoughts. it works humans are weak and can be manipulated.
plokoon761 2 years ago
Nice job idiot. Ignorance huh?
I'm not blaming you for thinking that way,
I see that you do card tricks. This ain't no card trick baby.
putitallontheline 2 years ago
you talk as if hypnotism and NLP were weird esoteric processes, when in fact, they are very understandable skills that work, in certain situations and on certain individuals.
the "hard" part is finding suggestible subjects (although it's not THAT hard), and having enough confidence to perform this stuff.
DB is very open about all his skills, and most of what he does is readily available on the internet. What he has that many people DON'T have, is an incredible level of showmanship and honesty
bablouche 2 years ago 10
he doesn't fake his stuff. maybe you should loosen up your beliefs. the world isn't nearly as boring as you may think.
gnomeater 2 years ago 12
Basic interrupt-handshake with suggestion.
Simple, yet effective.
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YesImAnAnimeFan 2 years ago
basic nlp. builds rapport, induces him in trance state by interrupting regular handshake which puts his subconscious mind in a trance (because you are breaking a automated subconscious action the mind doesn't know where to go), at that point his subconscious mind is very open to suggestions, and he tells him to be scared etc..
stri8ted 3 years ago 9
Derren does not seem to but into the philosophy that worms it's way into NLP. It is more like he thinks it is just play acting in the mind, even though you can target enhancing or bringing forth sertain feelings and thoughts that can get out of hand as it already does with depression,
and conditions involving halucinations.
However, for years Tourettes was thought to be a psychiatric condition, and the way tics are triggered at times seem to support this and that was wrong.
JonahTorn 3 years ago
When people watch videos of me having tics they sometimes have them themselves, but I have caused people to sway as a result of the metter in the verse of a 48 page poem without being present and absent any deliberate attempt to suggest they sway by sounds absent any suggestion. It is as if their filters go down when reading and they become sound responsive like me, only meter causes it, because my meter is for movement was ment fo the events in the story and not to cause swaying.
JonahTorn 3 years ago
. If I write a poem that starts the visually for a person who uses visual language and draw them in using all senses, will they be more moved by my meter? What if there is more to suggestion than a subconscious, since their is no conscious or unconscious part of people with Tourettes that wants to bark because a bag was blown across the street or dog barked. Is it belief of filters that drop when you know about a person just enough to pass them, or in the case of Tourettes you do not need to?
JonahTorn 3 years ago
you mean he puts the conscious mind into trance, so his subconscious doesn't know where to go.
MrMask13 3 years ago
Some things we do, like shaking hands and tying shoelaces, are done automatically as a "whole". Interrupting these things in the middle induces a split second of confusion which can be taken advantage of to plant suggestive thoughts, which is what Derren does here brilliantly.
ajs41 3 years ago 10
Derren and his team are great. For those of you interested in knowing how he induces others so quickly, look at the work of Milton H. Ericson M.D. The father of conversational hypnosis. NLP has a built in model based on his work. Derren is AMAZING!
kruhjose 3 years ago 3
its very advanced pschology and hypnotherapy that he uses. he isnt a magician hes a genius
rossgumbrell 3 years ago 47
@rossgumbrell he uses NLP, too. Cant forget that, it's the most important of all
dallasgangsta187 1 year ago
LMAO, that's why he didn't want to move :D
NorseRonin 3 years ago 6
Hahahaha nice one!
MastaJak1 3 years ago
why do people think the stuff derren does it fake?
HES NOT FAMOUS ON CHANNEL 4 FOR BEING A FAKE!
mugs
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ammarhureshi 2 years ago
You dont ''use'' Magic, magic is unreal. He uses tricks and hypnosis. He also admits that a lot of these things are just tricks.
This one is pure hypnosis though.
dejakhalz 2 years ago 2
i mean tricks by magic
ammarhureshi 2 years ago
Thats still wrong :P
Tricks are done by skills , not by magic.
Magic is just a word, not something that excists.
dejakhalz 2 years ago
What!
suckash 2 years ago
"the things we really s-care about"
detectiveinstinct 3 years ago
Woh, I didn't notice that! Thanks mate!
jonabank 3 years ago
"i fuckin shit myself" ahahahahaha :P
kevin12abcde 3 years ago 5
That makes no sense!
GayLuigee 3 years ago
You know what I've noticed? When you think about fear, you actually become scared. When you think about your own fears, you get a sense of terror. When someone suddenly talks about fear like that to you, the force is even bigger and when you're going to do something that's genuinely found scary, the effect is as seen is this video. It's awesome though.
SunlessSkyGuitar 3 years ago 8
ahaha what an asshole. "Your goin on the damn ride weather you like it or not"
razputen91 3 years ago 2
wonder wtf was inside the ride that made him scared(is grandma on a thong!!!!)i crack myself up!!!!
karasuenjeru 3 years ago
I love how everyone who comments here makes up some new shit and thinks they have a psych PHD.
se7en1976 3 years ago 16
I don't, I hate it
hamtamnam 3 years ago
agreed
deafened 3 years ago
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The way to see if derren is a fake is to find out this carnival operators name and see if he really is a carnival operator
webbly 3 years ago
Lol, The first thing i thought he was gonna say is that he shitted himself,
I thought that would make it seem kinda
possible to feel like if scared to death,
so it was the funniest shit in the world,
when he said it at the end.
majik1206 3 years ago
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PhilMcCool 3 years ago 2
mmm...i see he put him into a trance state
malekatemoss 3 years ago
jep true, but he also ankers the feeling of being scared to that dudes left shoulder. he touches his left shoulder after that guy told him about the people coming out there scared and right before he pushes him inside he touches his left shoulder again... that`s just another little part of the whole thing... but of cause without the fast induction into a hypnotic state it wouldn`t work
nofuckingwai 3 years ago 3
Yeah he also doesn't tell the man he is going on the ride and has him in the seat to multiply the fear of being powerless,
Br0k3nS41nt 3 years ago 2
ya he anchored him really good. He said things to like, "You like to see people coming out scared" "Scared" scared" so when he came out he was scared.
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I didn't believe him
dannyhere4u 3 years ago
What Derren Brown does to the participant is simply hypnosis. What's weird is the way that most people's brains decide what to retain and discard as frightening. He says that it's not frightening but that's only subjectively true because past experience tells people that ghost trains aren't really going to hurt them. Some people would find it scary each time and they are not necessarily wrong to do so because it is an assumption to think that an experience is always going to be the same.
Picnic10 3 years ago 8
bloody evil! ha!
satyricon451 3 years ago 3
lol he should work in a carnival with a crap ghost train like this
topbluffa1 3 years ago
I laughed so much when Derren pushed the poor bloke through the doors, I bet he was like "wtf is he doing?!" haha.
Curlibear 3 years ago 6
So basically, these stuff doesnt work on japanese, chinese and other people that doesnt use handshakes as a way of greeting eachother^^?
ybiomehanika 4 years ago
Not true, the handshake is a mere pattern breaker. He can pattern break by even saying something out of the ordinary.
Methusar 4 years ago 6
He used what I believe is called an Erickson Handshake. You'll notice he doesn't complete and follow through with the handshake. The carnival operator's pattern is thus interrupted and leaves him in a state of confusion and open to suggestion.
KomaNoize 4 years ago 2
hes exactly right what he does is called a break, and its precisly when he breaks the hand shake and grabs his hand w/ his left hand
pokerpro1078 4 years ago 3
but how does that make the man scared? I still don't get this!
JezzlyJames 4 years ago
when he does the break the pattern is interupted for a second his mind is open for suggestion thats when darren hypmotizers him to beleive its scary somthing like that anyway
pokerpro1078 4 years ago 2
HYPNOZA IS THE POWER
cysiEEx 4 years ago
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He pressed his wrist at the point were his veins are, building up blood pressure, THen plunged him into a dark environment were it further heightened the effect. Gave him the sensation of being scared.
stankwho 4 years ago
yeah!....right
JezzlyJames 4 years ago
true, try it on yourself.
stankwho 4 years ago
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Russianger 4 years ago
lol the poor guy said hes gona quit his job. ahahahha.
stealthpakfa 4 years ago
He always holds the guys hand when he does a trick... i think thats some thing that has to do with his technique...
NijelBoswell 4 years ago
yeah it is a hypnosis technique but before that he was questioning why he told him to sit and then locked him in at that point his mind was thinking WTF..which is called pattern interupt..after that he used the handshake..--but thats only what I think and im not an expert ;)
weedo84 4 years ago 2
he doesnt always do the gypsy handshake
like when he steals the other guys wallet...and on the train
justinbushaw 4 years ago
i think i know what ho does on the train of thought
heggen777 4 years ago
Yeah, he's using NLP (or summink like that) and he says STOP thinking right now.. your subconsiousness automaticly stops thinking at that point (and sorry for my horrible english)
IreneWit 3 years ago 2
Lots of cold reading & pumping & stooges. John Edwards is corrrrny.
sightlab 4 years ago
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it's all fake, ALL
smasher1987 4 years ago
Debating whether NLP works or not is not valid. If one did research on it then anyone would know the theory behind it. In this case, it was hilarious. It wasn't really overloading it was only two suggestions plus pattern interrrupt. Which is very cool. I would imagine, at least for me, overloading would refer to at least 4 suggestions in two sentences. No? Again only an opinion.
xirishmagicx 4 years ago
"Who is John Edwards? What the hell?"
He's a self proclaimed psychic. Nevermind him.
"It does work."
Again, compelling argument, but I need evidence.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
No, look, if NLP affects people, then obviusly it does work. That's like arguing electric torches don't work whne they shine a clear light in front of you. NLP does affect epole, so it does work.
Zaniac0 4 years ago
"No, look, if NLP affects people, then obviusly it does work. That's like arguing electric torches don't work whne they shine a clear light in front of you. NLP does affect epole, so it does work."
Non sequitur. You define NLP as something that affects people. That is not the definition of NLP. You have to show that NLP is indeed the mechanism that affects them.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
Well that uses scientific method. He is using NLP, they are being affected. When he does not ue NLP, they are not affected. Provable by repition and control. And NLP has to affect someone by definition. Its programming, thus, if you don't program, its no NLP.
There you go. (Sure, he fails sometimes ut its within scientific accuracy).
Omanscum 4 years ago
"Well that uses scientific method. He is using NLP, they are being affected. When he does not ue NLP, they are not affected. Provable by repition and control. And NLP has to affect someone by definition. Its programming, thus, if you don't program, its no NLP."
Based on that, I can safely say you haven't payed attention in science class.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
There has to be more to this trick than the bit we see. What Derren did and said to that guy wouldn't in itself have such a profound effect on him.
CaptainFrenzy 4 years ago
I bet darren uses this shit to get laid all the time... uhh jk but seriously im not jking
vortexlucid 4 years ago
This is called NLP. You see, shaking someones hand is like an automatic action, but Derren grabs the masn wrist with his other hand, breaking it and putting him into a trance-like state.
Zaniac0 4 years ago
"This is called NLP. You see, shaking someones hand is like an automatic action, but Derren grabs the masn wrist with his other hand, breaking it and putting him into a trance-like state."
What does NLP stand for?
smaakjeks 4 years ago
Neuro-Linguistic Programming. Look it up on wiki for more info.
Zaniac0 4 years ago
"Neuro-Linguistic Programming. Look it up on wiki for more info."
Well, there is no scientific study that substantiates NLP. It is baseless scientifically speaking. On the other hand, there are studies that debunk it.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
Well. it works....
That is proof in it's own right.
Zaniac0 4 years ago
"Well. it works...."
Convincing an argument as that may be, I remain skeptical.
"That is proof in it's own right."
You consider that proof? You're saying there's no way it could be anything else than NLP? Yikes.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
Arrgghhh. Look you don't even know waht NLP really is, and look, when he grabs the arm from handshake is a practice from NLP to break a subcosniuc sequence. And by well it works I mean that if it's false, WHY THE HELL DOES IT WORK???
Zaniac0 4 years ago
"Arrgghhh. Look you don't even know waht NLP really is"
I know that NLP has been debunked by scientific studies. It's pseudo psychology. I don't need to know the intricate details.
"And by well it works I mean that if it's false, WHY THE HELL DOES IT WORK???"
If it's false, how the hell does John Edward's stuff work? Answer: he doesn't do what he claims to be doing.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
Sorry, but biologically based psychology (the dominate school of our time) supports NLP. So maybe you should learn a bit more about the stuff.
Seriously, the idea that our brain works on two levels, and subconscious actions that cannot be controled by the conscious (I can't tie a tie if I consider what I'm doing, but subconsciously I can) can be used to manipulate the sub- and conscious is rooted in Psychology.
You're ignorant. Better luck next time.
Omanscum 4 years ago
"Sorry, but biologically based psychology (the dominate school of our time) supports NLP."
Show me some scientific studies that confirm it then.
"the idea that our brain works on two levels, and subconscious actions that cannot be controled by the conscious can be used to manipulate the sub- and conscious is rooted in Psychology."
And you're saying that by those mechanics you can control a person like Derren can? Show me the studies, man.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
You come across as pompous and insulting.
CaptainFrenzy 4 years ago
"You come across as pompous and insulting."
Who, me? What did I say that was so bad?
smaakjeks 4 years ago
Not you, Omanscum.
CaptainFrenzy 4 years ago
Who is John Edwards? What the hell? It does work. You prove to me it dosn't. Look a week ago you asked what NLP was, now you seem to be an expert. So just shut up.
Zaniac0 4 years ago
Quote:
"AMY: Well, there are differing opinions on NLP. There's not a shred of scientific support for it, outside of its own self-sustaining industry, plus a lot of mentalists.
DERREN: Well, I not a big a fan of it, but I've done it and think in some contexts there's some use--that's a whole other conversation--but it's a dirty word as far as I'm concerned."
"So just shut up."
Spoken like a true zealot.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
Hehe. I notice you're ignoring everything else I said. Spoken like a true pompous idiot.
Zaniac0 4 years ago
"Hehe. I notice you're ignoring everything else I said. Spoken like a true pompous idiot."
I'm sorry, I did reply to everything you wrote, but I hit reply on your same comment every time. Maybe they got erased, coz that's the last message I wrote. I dunno, youtube sucks. I'll rewrite, hold on.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
I've sent a private message to Zaniac0 with links to an interview where Derren admits that NLP has no scientific foundation, and a scientific study that debunks NLP.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
NLP is not replicable in scientific study, that is true. But the fact that you've, so quickly, gone from "what is nlp" to "NLP is a fake, and I know that for sure" makes me think "wikipedia has something to do with this".
Study biological psychology for 3 years then come see me.
Omanscum 4 years ago
"NLP is not replicable in scientific study, that is true(...)"
Wikipedia has nothing to do with it. I said I know for sure there is no scientific study in support of it. You have now conceded to that.
"Study biological psychology for 3 years then come see me."
Ethology will do for me, thanks. Scientific evidence is what I want. Not some poorly hidden argument from authority.
smaakjeks 4 years ago
that poor bastard
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laamaomao9151a 4 years ago
he did a simple "pattern break" NLP trick, do a search here for "derren brown revealed"
artslet2007 4 years ago
It's fascinating to imagine what went on before the cameras rolled.
FredSagen 4 years ago
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Derren Brown "hypnotizes" a carnival ride operator into thinking that a carnical ride is really scary.
"hypnotizes" a carnival ride operator into thinking that a carnical ride is really scary.
carnival ride operator into thinking that a carnical ride is really scary.
into thinking that a carnical ride is really scary.
a carnical ride
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t93sho 4 years ago
youre silly
ninjaoflife 4 years ago
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is that was carnies look lik over there in american there usually named buch and usually smell lik dead fish
ddrfreak7714 4 years ago
Handshake = confusion. There's also a level of expectation so when he goes in there he's probably thinking what the fuck is going on!
thaflash1988 4 years ago
Its all in the trance inducing handshake. He applied pressure to his arm with his left hand while he shakes with his right. This pressure is proven to intice people into a trance-like staight, which derren takes adantage of. Excellent!!!
Riggor 4 years ago 3
i know its the handshake, but i think its when he takes the hand away, breaking the mental 'handshake' pattern
Shiftie09manz 4 years ago
Once the subconscious has familiarized itself with a mundane task, like a handshake, once something that starts out as regular as ever, but suddenly gets interrupted or changed, the subconscious mind seeks for guidance and leaves it in an easily suggestible state. Notice what he says, he always speaks fast so it doesn't sound like he's making simple mistakes, but this is what he says:
Jealkeja 4 years ago 10
"It's just that its interesting sometimes to know why we do our jobs and to think about the things that 'affect us, haunt us, and the things we really scare' about."
Jealkeja 4 years ago 9
Well done at spotting that ;)
LoisLane210 4 years ago
how does he hypnotize people so quickly
rhomea77 4 years ago
hahahaha this just shows derren brown could run the crappest ghost ride and scare the living shit out of people he is MAD
topbluffa1 4 years ago 2
Derren for Prime Minister !
computersolutions164 4 years ago
lol that's the worst idea i've ever heard
yfguitarist 4 years ago
Ive been on that ride, its only scary if you are afraid of swing doors
penroyaltea 4 years ago
This made me laugh really hard. XD
infernoxangel 4 years ago
HAHAHAAHAHAAHAH
cutelizz 4 years ago
0:52 is a perfect example of a handshake interupt
nodlezfodlez 4 years ago
you mean changing handshake from right to left?
acidlunar 4 years ago
haha... so funny when the guy came out looking exactly the same as how he went in...stone faced.
lovelySweetSakura 4 years ago
It would have been hilarious if the guy came out an actual skeleton. Derren Brown is excellent though
Artie2012 4 years ago
Or white as a sheet with hair on end! What the hell happened in there? I'd love to have a massive scare but all the time be in no danger.
CaptainFrenzy 4 years ago
hahahah the guys face is classic when he comes out!!
johnykoop 4 years ago
when he held the guys wrist he said 'the things that HAUNT us and the things we SCARE about'. thats got something to do with it.
thurlestonbeast1990 4 years ago
could be?
penelopedesouza 4 years ago
It is, very simple video
dugges 4 years ago
I know, the uncertain 'could be?' was sarcastic- aargh the internet is a difficult place to communicate...
penelopedesouza 4 years ago
for all the ppl who are to dumb to understand how he does this , pay attention at the moment he thanks him and want to shake the man's hand, the man is confused on that moment and derren grabs his chance and prgrams him xD !! POST MORE DB VIDS!!
churde 4 years ago
you couldn't be closer to the truth my friend. Couldn't be closer.
xirishmagicx 4 years ago