The first baby is more special then the second baby because the first baby got a whole movie and a bunch of love! The second baby only got a scream and a spin and badabing it was here. They were already happy enough when the 1st baby came, then they thought... Ugh anoher one when he second baby was here lol
You gotz sum pretty good custom content why not use it? sum people maybe like ur self dont use cc in videos like these cuz "dunno-how to download cc gerks" always leve a comment conplaining bout this stuff ;) im only 11 and if im smarted to download cc sum teen or adult shood ^__^
I wanted to register my game code r something and they said that the code wasn't for the sims 2. and i played it once and now the game won't start anymore D':<
how did u get twins?! i mean, it's easy to get twins on the sims 3 but idk the cheat for twins for the sims 2...care to share? it wld b soooo cool if my sim family has twins :)
I started My Own Family That I would not use cheats in! But its Hard! They always have like five dollars or less!! Oh and Quick Question.. Where Did you get The White Cribs? Thanks ((:
I rarely ever get twins in my game, but today when I was playing one of my newer families, I had two twin girls. I named them Isabelle and Annabelle. They both have brown hair, but one has brown eyes like her mother and the other has hazel eyes like the father. They're both identical save for the colors of their eyes.
i have freetime but it gets on my nerves how the ppl r always interupting u wen they go in the house for like cooking or games or sports so i took it of (wen i had my old comp)
I miss this game sooooo much. I have sims 3 now and world adventures and high end loft stuff. (not trying to brag) but i miss this game so much there are certain things that this game has to offerthat isnt in sims 3
ikr. i have the sims 3 and its kinda boring because you cant do alot of stuff on there like the sims2,i never had sims 2 but i can tell that sims2 do more because all the sims2 gamplays and movies on youtube
i love sims 2 its really cool cuz you can like if u want to eat and he goes open fridge takes food out makes it and eats not like some games just takes out something from nowhere i mean from the pocket lol
Omg how adorable babies but the father left the baby on the floor?And i think he's gonna leave emily for hannah because he's calling her too much and i think the babies' names are adorable and where are they gonna sleep?
when i first started playing sims i got never get twins now i get them all the time! once i had two couples living in one house and the girls both got pregnant at the same time and they both had twins and they were all girls. so we had four babies in that house. omg i had to hire alot of nannies haha.
ive tryed so many times to have twins on sims 2 first i had a boy then girl then girl and girl then a boy and my sim is currently pregnent but near old age so I hope i get twins this time!!!
this is how i think i always get twins. you know if they are green they are happy and when they arent they are red? well when you get a girl pregnant make sure she stays the white colour through the whole of the pregnancy. fufil as many of her wants as you can. thats how i think u get it. hope it works :)
Your so lucky to get twin girls, that what I want so bad for my Sim! And you gave them beautiful names, I mean Isabella and Grabiella, I thought you were gonna put Annabella but Gabriella is so, so more beautiful and graceful.
Haha, on the second baby, she goes to hold her baby belly, but she's holding air because she's back to normal. XD And silly husband slept through all that racket?
I normally have boys, but ive had a family where they have had: a girl, then another girl, then a boy, then twin girls, then twin boys. which is alot. and btw i know how to have more then 8 ppl in a family, so dont think im llying :D
sims talk strange i have the sims for my ps2 and this one girl keeps saying this girlisfredishingandawrubadubdobandahoie/////and then this other girl says bobadudaadodotwhoo
my sim had two babies. And they was hard to take care of and plus i had to take care of my sims needs. I had to call the nanny several times. But they are fully grown teenagers now. And they to was girls.
@CrantasticMakeup They didnt the message i put was a reply to sum on elses message who asked why the wouldnt cheat [But asince youtube has changed so much You cant see it :P]
Those babys so cute!And again im on ma bro acc.I wish I could have pets pack and other stuff in edditind only coz I have dowlanded packs like apartment life and bon vojage pack like dat.
no if your first aspiration is family and you get all the rewards the last one is 150% more likley to have twins. But they can just randomly happen to.
you know u can get more money buy pressing shift+ctrl+c! then press motherlode and you will get 50,000 simelones! but don't put the plus signs ok! who ever needed that there you go! welcome!
I like watching this videos of the Campbell family. Keep up the good work! When i had twins the house went CRAZY on the Sims 2. When they were toddlers, when one woke up and cry the other one did the same at the same time.
TWO new babies? Shit, you're gonna have trouble lol. I was fucking running around crazy with my twins. Especially during toddler-hood, when I had to give them all their skills
My Sims had twins, boy and girl <3
crazybaboonisawsome 1 month ago
awwww two girls that's so cute
alinciobanu94 2 months ago
4:55 its sounded like emily said " oh shoot another"
rachelgirl8 2 months ago in playlist More videos from Shadowk14
i knew it was twins and that the big thing was her baby!:))
football171997 3 months ago
i just paused at 34 sec. and is the big thing her having her baby?
football171997 3 months ago
did u have apartment life installed?
pamelareno00 5 months ago
I wish i had this game i have sims 3 for wii i had sims 2 and sims 2 pets
buray121 5 months ago
i liked dis one!!
hisgfbitches 6 months ago
i love the first baby :D
kathleenymail 6 months ago
The first baby is more special then the second baby because the first baby got a whole movie and a bunch of love! The second baby only got a scream and a spin and badabing it was here. They were already happy enough when the 1st baby came, then they thought... Ugh anoher one when he second baby was here lol
That's what I think of when I have twins lol
megavideogameplayer1 6 months ago
the crib is from freetime
Carmen8329 6 months ago
Where did you get that crid
kishamc25 7 months ago
:33 hmmmmmmmm i wonder wut will happen. no they wont have a baby. its somthin else. LOL! JK!!
katperson88 7 months ago
The baby's giggle is so cute! :D
ChocoPicoLove45 7 months ago
Bb (baby) So cute Bb is my shortcut for baby! :D
ChocoPicoLove45 7 months ago
Yay!!!
TANYATHESHAYTARDNOOB 8 months ago
wow after the first one i didnt expect a second one that was shock and much better than sims3
skywalker5901 8 months ago
wow!
queenluvsyou 8 months ago
Ya know u have an upstairs to the house that's why u should use the bottom doesn't get crowded duh
JacobFan44 8 months ago
i had twins 1 time a boy and a girl the girl kept betting the boy up
catwolf200 8 months ago
those two babies are sooooooooooooooo cute
JJrocks231 9 months ago
how do you get twins
condon60 9 months ago
Dude can u please go upsatairs
IceCreanX 9 months ago
U know there's an upstairs right?
bejeweledstar 11 months ago
Isabella and Gabriella look really CUTE!!!!
waynehom1 11 months ago
i like to feed my baby and then play with it just to see it vomit on my sim! ^O^
nickyanime601 1 year ago
@nickyanime60 HaHa nice. :)
PeachAngel511 1 year ago
@nickyanime601 lol
catwolf200 8 months ago
while hes on the phone and you made it in 3 mode he sounds like hes speeking a different langauge ^_^
nickyanime601 1 year ago
WOOWHOO!!!TWO CHILD!!
Sorry if i'm tooooo exited...
YukinaMadumShinhama 1 year ago
the tree house started to spin it spun faster and faster and faster the everything is still
lookinggood67 1 year ago
omg twins WHOA thats a hanful anyways NICE VIDS
TheLillyPimp 1 year ago
the sim babys are so cute
jaynhc 1 year ago
You gotz sum pretty good custom content why not use it? sum people maybe like ur self dont use cc in videos like these cuz "dunno-how to download cc gerks" always leve a comment conplaining bout this stuff ;) im only 11 and if im smarted to download cc sum teen or adult shood ^__^
rosebud19999 1 year ago
i had quads with a hack i downloaded 2 girlz and 2 boys the boys are nick and nikki the girls are Addison And Madison :D
rosebud19999 1 year ago
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boredomskingdom 1 year ago
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boredomskingdom 1 year ago
Aaww :3 Twin girls :) They're both cute :)
boredomskingdom 1 year ago
the sims 1 - great music
the sims 2 - awesome game play (true)
the sims 3 - many building options.
paulquibuyen1 1 year ago
You gave the girls pretty names☺
skyesimsfan 1 year ago
awww
Sissyface1 1 year ago
Lol twins by surprise
Narutosims123 1 year ago
I had twin girls once but my little Lia died. T-T it was sad! He twin sister Julia even cried!
theskye101 1 year ago
sims 2 is way better thatn sims 3. That's my opinion
paulquibuyen1 1 year ago 9
@paulquibuyen1 So true.
Terminater756 1 year ago
I wanted to register my game code r something and they said that the code wasn't for the sims 2. and i played it once and now the game won't start anymore D':<
4everSims3fan 1 year ago
where did you get the sims 3 poster from?
jellyjake98 1 year ago
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how do you make videos and put them on youtube ??? (of sims 2 )
laurenk0404 1 year ago
hes gonna have an affair with hannah i bet
spongebobfanshane 1 year ago
Hahahahaha she's yelling like she's having orgasm XDDD
sexybexy19 1 year ago
Just when there having the baby you type in forcetwins. Yeah just do it when the woman is moaning and stuff. And it should work!
checkywho 1 year ago
@checkywho No. You can just have 2 kids if you do Try For baby then Woohoo.
superawesomegirly 1 year ago
Set the babehs on the ground!
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anderanna247 1 year ago
that bout to have babies thing is funny
Missdaisy993 1 year ago
how did u get twins?! i mean, it's easy to get twins on the sims 3 but idk the cheat for twins for the sims 2...care to share? it wld b soooo cool if my sim family has twins :)
94sugar 1 year ago
@94sugar the twin cheat is forcetwins
reessa442 1 year ago
How did you get two?!?!??! each time mine are pregnant they only ever have one on each and every family!!!
queenk272 1 year ago
@queenk272 just like in real life, it's random.
CrantasticMakeup 1 year ago
I started My Own Family That I would not use cheats in! But its Hard! They always have like five dollars or less!! Oh and Quick Question.. Where Did you get The White Cribs? Thanks ((:
xxrawrfooxx 1 year ago
The baies have Emily's gender and eyes but have George's hair.
RoseLily89 1 year ago
5:32 Haha, I love how he puts ze Baby on the ground.
Oh!
And also, what uhm, version is it?
Like an expansion pack?
hollllabakgirl 1 year ago
@hollllabakgirl freetime, and all the others...I think
MinishCapLover980 1 year ago
@hollllabakgirl he has a lot but mostly it's the Freetime ep.
CrantasticMakeup 1 year ago
i wish i had twins with no cheats that were NORMAL everytime i get a twin without cheats it from alien people,what shity luck
boomstephanie 1 year ago
@boomstephanie
i got twins with out cheats by trying for a baby then hear the little chime and then i did it again and heard the chime and then twins were born!
AssassinBunny107 1 year ago
again why do you have two phones whats the point?? and get better furniture, sheesh i think thats alittle more important then paintings.
bubblebuddy855 1 year ago
4.12 does she like usher becauz she said usher 0_o
taahera1 1 year ago
I rarely ever get twins in my game, but today when I was playing one of my newer families, I had two twin girls. I named them Isabelle and Annabelle. They both have brown hair, but one has brown eyes like her mother and the other has hazel eyes like the father. They're both identical save for the colors of their eyes.
lunaprincess04 1 year ago
the series are fantastic!!!
graziucciasmile 1 year ago
@graziucciasmile ya and the boy very nice put the baby on the floor
taahera1 1 year ago
hát ez magyarul a video amit fel tettél szar pocsék hüjeség
selenaandvanessa9999 1 year ago
Wen the mum put the baby in the cot she sed choi as in goodbye in italian
guudonya 1 year ago
@guudonya lol so similish has some italian in it! :D :D :) :)
Babygrl991 1 year ago
i have freetime but it gets on my nerves how the ppl r always interupting u wen they go in the house for like cooking or games or sports so i took it of (wen i had my old comp)
LautnerLuvrXO 1 year ago
I miss this game sooooo much. I have sims 3 now and world adventures and high end loft stuff. (not trying to brag) but i miss this game so much there are certain things that this game has to offerthat isnt in sims 3
peacefreak101m 1 year ago 31
@peacefreak101m
ikr. i have the sims 3 and its kinda boring because you cant do alot of stuff on there like the sims2,i never had sims 2 but i can tell that sims2 do more because all the sims2 gamplays and movies on youtube
I'm gonna get sims2 soon thoe
midwestjamesl 1 year ago
@peacefreak101m
me tooooo !
CeliahProductions 1 year ago
@peacefreak101m thats true i have the sims 3 but its not the same so ive gone back to the sims 2 i might give it to my cusion i dont kno yet
MsMiz123 1 year ago
@peacefreak101m like better radio
SDKidd89 11 months ago
the first baby has beatiful eyes there soo cute just like her moms eyes
sims2rocks44 1 year ago 17
@sims2rocks44 r u sayig her other baby is ugly? Your so mean!
Auggieevans 1 year ago
i had twin girls lol and one has blue eyes and the other had green eyes lol great vids.
TheNextBigSINGER11 1 year ago
How nice The Daddy put down His own baby on cold floor =3
MsAngieLovely
i am sory But ur comment makes me think aboutu Final Fantasy Games xD ( I am rly sory.Forgive me)
CATWITCHGIRL 2 years ago
That would be funny if she had her babies on the treadmill. :)
numah12 2 years ago
shadwk14 those names are incredibl and pretty
lolsmleyface45 2 years ago 2
my brother had twins named leon and zack.sadly zack died.=[
MsAngieLovely 2 years ago 2
The twins thing always happens to me. Infact it just did. For me twins are never planed. But the more the merrier!!!!! Great vids!!
MekaFreka 2 years ago 2
Also how do get twins? I want my sims to have twins. The babies are so CUTE! Btw, it would be nice if you put the cribs upstairs.
fantasticanime2010 2 years ago
@fantasticanime2010 you should try for baby 2 times
liftinggrandma 1 year ago
What expansion do you need to put food back into the fridge?
fantasticanime2010 2 years ago
Seasons or bon voyage
mayanagibekova 2 years ago
@fantasticanime2010 you dont need expansion
liftinggrandma 1 year ago
when i get twin on sims 2c i alway get boys or a boy and a girl i never get twin girls lol
lisalou94eva 2 years ago
I know why her belly so big,becoz she has twins lah.
333Giggles 2 years ago
The sims 2 rules but how do u get twin boys i rarley get twins n ther always grls
polly217 2 years ago
i love sims 2 its really cool cuz you can like if u want to eat and he goes open fridge takes food out makes it and eats not like some games just takes out something from nowhere i mean from the pocket lol
stanislav576 2 years ago
My sim had a boy and a girl twins but I dont have enugh mony to buy them a crib so they sleep on the floor also great vid.
cubejuner112 2 years ago
funny at 4:43 lol wake up sleepyhed and take the baby
ladypopmusic1 2 years ago
yes the babies!!
MsDreamerX 2 years ago
did u make her eat chease cake or was i the cheat
Trixster104 2 years ago
@Trixster104 did u watch 1st part...he said he's not going to ceat
liftinggrandma 1 year ago
Are u gonna buy a car soon to put every one in that would be nice :) oh ya nice vids
Trixster104 2 years ago
5:33,
purplesheepify 2 years ago
womg, 3:45!!
purplesheepify 2 years ago
you have the sims 2 free time?
Alanblack277 2 years ago
@Alanblack277 you watch 1st part
liftinggrandma 1 year ago
my sim had a baby a boy then another boy i want them be twins a boy and a girl
and my sim girl is the only woman in the house and my sister on sims 3 got triplets
they were all girls cough cough she has lots of kids in sims 3
Bapachingo 2 years ago
dads probably annoyed about 3 girls in the house now
sugababefan123 2 years ago
Omg how adorable babies but the father left the baby on the floor?And i think he's gonna leave emily for hannah because he's calling her too much and i think the babies' names are adorable and where are they gonna sleep?
Mandy3319 2 years ago 2
when i first started playing sims i got never get twins now i get them all the time! once i had two couples living in one house and the girls both got pregnant at the same time and they both had twins and they were all girls. so we had four babies in that house. omg i had to hire alot of nannies haha.
LuvinLife1929 2 years ago 2
ive tryed so many times to have twins on sims 2 first i had a boy then girl then girl and girl then a boy and my sim is currently pregnent but near old age so I hope i get twins this time!!!
ninidunut 2 years ago 2
this is how i think i always get twins. you know if they are green they are happy and when they arent they are red? well when you get a girl pregnant make sure she stays the white colour through the whole of the pregnancy. fufil as many of her wants as you can. thats how i think u get it. hope it works :)
LuvinLife1929 2 years ago 2
oh ok. She's in the gold zone thing so I'll try to get it to silver!! :) tyvm!!
ninidunut 2 years ago 2
They are twins !
Steaua3000 2 years ago
The picture Kinda gave it away
Doctorwhofan08 2 years ago
u have two phone ya know
1959sheila 2 years ago
i luv how when a kid calls a grownup and there at work the person who answers "she/he is at work u should try it." its like wtf im a kid
Dramagirl511 2 years ago
Your so lucky to get twin girls, that what I want so bad for my Sim! And you gave them beautiful names, I mean Isabella and Grabiella, I thought you were gonna put Annabella but Gabriella is so, so more beautiful and graceful.
TheBratzQueen 2 years ago
I think George is going to cheat on Emily with Hannah since he calls her so much.
catsaregreat99 2 years ago
Haha, on the second baby, she goes to hold her baby belly, but she's holding air because she's back to normal. XD And silly husband slept through all that racket?
angel13beagle13 2 years ago
emily:i think im going to blow
sims:its the end or the world!
emily*BOOM*
baby:WTF?
zac440 2 years ago
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caseylovesjoejonas 2 years ago
I normally have boys, but ive had a family where they have had: a girl, then another girl, then a boy, then twin girls, then twin boys. which is alot. and btw i know how to have more then 8 ppl in a family, so dont think im llying :D
Jt0tz 2 years ago
OMG the second baby came upside down
Dramagirl511 2 years ago
your babys are so cute i wish i had this game
tianibone8 2 years ago 3
I love her hairstyle [:
when i first got University, i gave everyone on campus that harstyle [:
babiiemmii 2 years ago
without u speeding the game sometimes would just get bored and not watch ur videos but.....u speed up time when i want to! UR THE BEST THANKS!
lillucky55 2 years ago 3
sims talk strange i have the sims for my ps2 and this one girl keeps saying this girlisfredishingandawrubadubdobandahoie/////and then this other girl says bobadudaadodotwhoo
TheJonasfan10 2 years ago
y did he put da baby on da floor
paintme5293 2 years ago
couldn't you just feed 2 babies with one bottle? i mean, gives you more food in da fridge, and bottle doesn't run out....
secondsims 2 years ago
my sim had two babies. And they was hard to take care of and plus i had to take care of my sims needs. I had to call the nanny several times. But they are fully grown teenagers now. And they to was girls.
r3troswagg 2 years ago
twins
ldpokemon 2 years ago
aw the names are beautiful
4eveTwilightismylife 2 years ago
That girl is never home had me cracking up.
FantasticPerson122 2 years ago
Why not get more money ? To cheats!!
EmilyLynn12 2 years ago
didnt u see the first episode?! He or She said that they would not use any cheats with this family!
posossoa 2 years ago 16
@posossoa how did he cheat?
CrantasticMakeup 1 year ago
@CrantasticMakeup They didnt the message i put was a reply to sum on elses message who asked why the wouldnt cheat [But asince youtube has changed so much You cant see it :P]
posossoa 1 year ago
i think in like the second episode she said she WASN'T going to cheat with this family.
riverbank07 2 years ago
is a He :P
Scootrzgurl 2 years ago
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agdollfan32 2 years ago
All sims do that!
posossoa 2 years ago
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sims2geek22 2 years ago
those some adorable babies and the name are jus so cute twins how adorable the names suit em'
Electria11 2 years ago 2
Those babys so cute!And again im on ma bro acc.I wish I could have pets pack and other stuff in edditind only coz I have dowlanded packs like apartment life and bon vojage pack like dat.
KARTOMAGAS 2 years ago 2
when I had my sim son my husband DIDN'T wake up
Garnfellow 2 years ago 4
when she passed him the baby he was all like ho ho ho oh my sosh what did we get ourself into
boredbrowny26 2 years ago 4
you can get twins without cheats!
MissNintendo95 2 years ago
no you dont have to
sims2singer 2 years ago
i thought you couldnt get twings without a cheat
Bailurt 2 years ago
no if your first aspiration is family and you get all the rewards the last one is 150% more likley to have twins. But they can just randomly happen to.
sims2guyz 2 years ago 3
^.^ he dropped the baby
Maddison132 2 years ago
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ! twins !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coquiinha1 2 years ago
Which Expansion pack or website did you get the clothes and hair for emily??
CrappyPr0duction 2 years ago
The hair is in the University extension pack and i dont know the clothes.
Bejus9308 2 years ago
My sims got a girl and her name is mary btw 5 stars!
SimsFreak111 2 years ago
TWINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY WEEEE :] 5 *
SimsFreak111 2 years ago
Ugh lucky... When I made my simself, I tried so many times to get a girl. Instead this is what I had:
twin boys
a boy
another boy
more twin boys
after that I just gave up -_-
aphroditeangel26 2 years ago 5
WOW Most of the time i get girls yay
littlespoiledbl 2 years ago
haha you're lucky...
but I tell you what, having 6 boys is no picnic!
And you run out of hairstyles =p
aphroditeangel26 2 years ago
really?
mine goes in order :L
if i have twins, its usually boy+girl,
and if i have separate babies, its a girl and a boy :L
babiiemmii 2 years ago
6:02 HE DROPED THE BABY !!!
dogwalker004 2 years ago 3
Great videos!:D
Everyone please check out my sims2 video.
Comment and rate please :D
Thankyou.
laptopyaya 2 years ago
you know u can get more money buy pressing shift+ctrl+c! then press motherlode and you will get 50,000 simelones! but don't put the plus signs ok! who ever needed that there you go! welcome!
DemiJoeLuver 2 years ago
I like watching this videos of the Campbell family. Keep up the good work! When i had twins the house went CRAZY on the Sims 2. When they were toddlers, when one woke up and cry the other one did the same at the same time.
claygirlmusic123 2 years ago 3
TWO new babies? Shit, you're gonna have trouble lol. I was fucking running around crazy with my twins. Especially during toddler-hood, when I had to give them all their skills
quinlynnes 2 years ago 2
Damn you frekin husband now your dad your hanging out with GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mimiandsocky 2 years ago
George is more interusted in that other girl then he is about his family ;(
reindeerman8212 2 years ago
LOL!
Gingerdough11 2 years ago
i had this game and still do till my parents got new pc and i can take the graphics to the game it need 9.0c
imsorandome 2 years ago
Damn, what a fucking man! he sets a baby on the floor! stupid... SHEESH
salamencemot 2 years ago
ya right wat a husband
345cutie 2 years ago
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What happens at 4:10?? Do you have to do that, or does that come with an expansion pack??
Csernyikator3 2 years ago
what happens at 4:10? Do you have to do that, or does that happen with an expansion pack??
Csernyikator3 2 years ago
I should really try playing a sim family without ANY cheats ... hehe
vietchicken 2 years ago
same here :P
brittlegirl94 2 years ago
I know :P but i cant live like that xD
Gingerdough11 2 years ago
so... how long does it take for hem to be teenagers???
BIGJJ1324 3 years ago
like 23 sim days :l
Gingerdough11 2 years ago