for the stupid. its not compressor surge. comp surge is when the compressor flows more air than the engine can consume. this is extremely bad. the sound here is just air comin back out the comp wheel. it doesnt cause any damage.
Holy surge! That is by no mean exhaust related sound that is pure and simple surge! and he wasnt refering to te Shhhhhhhh noise it is the wooblwooble noise between shifts....
some groups of people in australia like the compressor surge they call it a dose and they get special pipes that run from the inlet on the turbo to make different dose noises lol. Youtube search for dose pipe lol
have people actually proven it damages em tho??, whenver i google people go yeah its air passing through the blade the wrong way of course it will damage it but they have no prooft that it actually does..
for starters, is it turbo? what you're hearing is the sound of an external wastegate being vented to atmosphere, dumping waste gasses from the turbo. this is illegal in some countries but in most there is a way to get around it. cheers. :]
thats tuff my rx7 series3 is getting a 13BT large extend port hoping around 300kw+ i just pulled the engine out i blew the original check it out if u want
Why are you people thumbing him down? The fluttery sound when he lefts off the gas (changes gears ) happens because the turbo is still spinning at high speed, making boost, but the throttle body is closed (Off the gas the butterfly closes) as a result, all of the pressure that is coming out of the turbo, is forced back down through the inlet. This wall of air, is flowing the opposite direction of the spinning compressor, stalling or slowing it abruptly. The screamer is...(cont below)
...the sound you hear, starting at about 5k rpm. It is the loud ShhhhHHHHHHHH you hear. That is the sound of exhaust gas being forced out of the back of the external wastegate. This occurs when boost pressure exceeds the wastegate spring tension, which are used to limit the amount of boost pressure going into an engine.
must admit b4 i started this video i thought to myself o boy lets count how many of these r actually the wastegate and not just the bov but, thank god u know wut it is, theres so many ppl who think the bov sound is the screamer
LOL! Dude your retarded, the "Whipple" is the wastegate, it is called a Dose or Dosing. It's just the exhaust gases venting to the atmosphere through the wastegate. And Dude, it's an RX? Rotary mean anything to you? It's a turbo you tard hahaha
fucking retard. turbo is doseing not the gate... and its doseing cause of the air rushing back and spinning the turbo the opisite way... or "compressor surge"..
how can a turbo thats spinning at say 10000rpm spin the other way?... its just slowing it down and "cutting" the air so to speek... theres no way in hell that it would slow down, stop, spin the other way, stop, and spin the right way again
for a start 80,000+ rpm. turbos have spun the wheels off from compresser surge "doseing" due to spinning back or slowing down trying to spin the opisite way. all depends on boost
im using 10000 as an example... yeah from TRYING to spin the other way (they just slow down) but yeah they can sheer the impeller bolt off and shit! but they wont spin the other way
thats just a plum back that makes the flutter, means it is a BOV just not an atmospheric one, its shoots the air backwards threw the turbo and the turbo basically cuts through the air which makes the noise
Screamer's don't have blow off valves, which is what makes the noise when you change gears/take your foot off the throttle.
Screamer turbo's, (not actually the turbo) rather, screamer pipes, is unexhausted air coming out of your turbo through an open wastegate. There is no blow off sound with screamer pipes, the exhaust goes straight through the engine.
You still run a BOV with a screamer. The screamer pipe lets the exhaust vented by the wastegate to go to atmosphere instead of back into the exhaust.
A BOV is on the charge side of the turbo, going to the TB. It allows boosted air to vent to atmosphere when the butterfly in the TB closes. It's supposed to prevent damaging compressor surge. Sounds to me like that's what the chattering noise you hear in the video is, but I could be wrong, I don't know what BOV he's running.
yea sounds cool and all but still. compressor surge over time is bad. even though all you haters out there think it isnt. one day you will see. even if your turbo doesnt just fully die. go take it to the dyno and see if you loose hp. but it is proven to be bad.
I hope you realise compressor surge only causes noticeable damage if you're running 25psi or alot higher than the real efficiency range of your turbo after long periods of time..
Just because you HEAR compressor surge it does not mean it's damaging.. Read about it.
nice ride dude. sounds sweet as. Love the sound of the surge flutter, but i personally wouldnt continually do it to mine. As for a lot of the retarded comments ive read on here... dont comment unless u kno what ur talking about u retards... u kno who im talking to.
after 3 years of hektik compressor surging in my r32, at 15psi, my turbo is still good, had it out on the track, thrashed it on the streets, burnouts, dunno y people say its bad for ur turbo... i understand how it works an by rights it should fuk the turbo but 3 years on and im still dosing lol...
man compressor surge is fukn sikkkk bro!!! manual shift the auto like a sik kunt for more rpm and a better dose ule!!!! then snap a turbo fan blade with the comp surge and have it launched at 6psi into your manifold, then into a cylinder, and fuck your engine!!! SIKKKKKKKK MATE!
"sounds sick. blow off valves are for turds wtih stock wrxs, and 1.8t volkswagens. compressor surge is for MEN. keep up the solid work."
It'll sound fantastic when the compressor wheel finally decides its had enough and gives up the ghost. compressor surge is for "men" who don't understand.
Its not caused from the wastegate. Its from not using a BOV. If you still run a filter you'll be fine. Search for 'VL DOSE' and youll see heaps of them.
In actual fact research shows that not having a BOV does not cause any damage to the turbo in an application such as mine. Maybe if you were running in excess of 40psi, but not on 14pound. Furthermore, it aids next to nothing in throttle response. A BOV is just a wank factor option ;) more than happy to show you the specs
i disagree m8 totally. its taking the built up pressure away from the turbo making it have to work harder to build boost back up. thats bollocks. your engine must be old and shite in that case. rubbish.
so why are these guys trying to destroy their turbo instead of just venting the excess boost pressure to the atmostphere or recirculating it back into their intake tract?
Its often incorrectly referred to as wastegate flutter. In fact the wastegate can't actually flutter. Its called compressor blade reversion... Whereby the air pressure coming from your closed throttle plate hits the compressor wheel of your turbo
actually it's the air bouncing between the throttle body and the compressor blades of the turbo. Thusly why the sound reverberates so much. Some BOV's sound similar when they create compressor surge from not opening all the way, or fast enough. Generally not healthy for the life of the turbo though. So you sir, are the tard.
For ALL of the IDIOTS out there who love to babble on about compressor surge, try this.
Search "True compressor surge" and learn a thing or two.
blyndrotor 7 months ago
doesnt evn go hard!
brendo69anytime 9 months ago
for the stupid. its not compressor surge. comp surge is when the compressor flows more air than the engine can consume. this is extremely bad. the sound here is just air comin back out the comp wheel. it doesnt cause any damage.
dreamseller01 9 months ago
@dreamseller01
Wow. Someone who actually knows what real compressor surge is.
blyndrotor 7 months ago
nice, but slow i cut u in half with my clubby, but still nice child toy
hajmorusit 10 months ago
sounds fucking epicc here tht flutter soo damn sik
92nk 1 year ago
sounded like it had compressor surge or is it a nice sequential
guccamain 1 year ago
Sounds so fucking nice, gotta love the rotors.
Radelaidesk8er 1 year ago
The first rx sounded insane! Huge turbo
DStylesHanska 2 years ago
the sound of the hamster getting raped is the bov i hate that one though
airmaxonezzzz 2 years ago
Holy surge! That is by no mean exhaust related sound that is pure and simple surge! and he wasnt refering to te Shhhhhhhh noise it is the wooblwooble noise between shifts....
altereddimensions 2 years ago
sounds like he has a non working blow off... or maybe he doesnt have one....
the surge was terrible..... it might sounds cool but it bends ur compressor blades under high boost
lunaticbiaatch 2 years ago
some groups of people in australia like the compressor surge they call it a dose and they get special pipes that run from the inlet on the turbo to make different dose noises lol. Youtube search for dose pipe lol
have people actually proven it damages em tho??, whenver i google people go yeah its air passing through the blade the wrong way of course it will damage it but they have no prooft that it actually does..
Gruelius 2 years ago
he must have the money to fix it then. :P
brayt0n 1 year ago
Nub question lol...I have a FC rx7 how do i get the scream this guy gets when he opens the throttle up
FC3SROTA 2 years ago
for starters, is it turbo? what you're hearing is the sound of an external wastegate being vented to atmosphere, dumping waste gasses from the turbo. this is illegal in some countries but in most there is a way to get around it. cheers. :]
MorganMixell 2 years ago
that is definitely compressor surge
emericask8er7439 2 years ago 2
thats tuff my rx7 series3 is getting a 13BT large extend port hoping around 300kw+ i just pulled the engine out i blew the original check it out if u want
BRIDGEPORTD7 2 years ago
Tss, my moped sounds like that ... xD
Regret696 2 years ago
most screamers i have heard don't make that noise
grimmripper1 2 years ago
reading some of these posts some people have no idea cockheads
Abbertont 2 years ago 3
it may have a screamer but its really hard to hear it
simonnoitalay 2 years ago
Sounds like you have a mean compressor surge, and yes when it flutters it is 99.9% most likely a compressor surge.
RadOne83 2 years ago
you can by bov's that sound like that
concannonman 2 years ago
@RadOne83
Why are you people thumbing him down? The fluttery sound when he lefts off the gas (changes gears ) happens because the turbo is still spinning at high speed, making boost, but the throttle body is closed (Off the gas the butterfly closes) as a result, all of the pressure that is coming out of the turbo, is forced back down through the inlet. This wall of air, is flowing the opposite direction of the spinning compressor, stalling or slowing it abruptly. The screamer is...(cont below)
tensecfd3s 2 years ago
@RadOne83
...the sound you hear, starting at about 5k rpm. It is the loud ShhhhHHHHHHHH you hear. That is the sound of exhaust gas being forced out of the back of the external wastegate. This occurs when boost pressure exceeds the wastegate spring tension, which are used to limit the amount of boost pressure going into an engine.
tensecfd3s 2 years ago
that sounds crazy! nice very nice
ashlah 2 years ago
lol at wogs and there small car brains
MrJimbob2707 2 years ago
thats a sexy car
snaketeacher01 2 years ago
must admit b4 i started this video i thought to myself o boy lets count how many of these r actually the wastegate and not just the bov but, thank god u know wut it is, theres so many ppl who think the bov sound is the screamer
KaptainAmerika1 2 years ago
nice rotor m8 and nice dose, sounds tuff as.
edwardrobo1 2 years ago
fuck theas sum know all tards on hea. bad sev bro :D
kindrixxx 2 years ago
how much did u spent to get the engine to what it is now and did u do your gear box and diff
mrskitz 2 years ago
Dont have a figure for price... Gearbox is a s5 turbo box with twin plate clutch and diff was a modified hilux diff with 4.3 lsd centre
rxzila 2 years ago
The car does have a screamer pipe from the wastegate and once and for all, there is NO BOV used, the flutter is compressor reversion.
Thanks
rxzila 2 years ago
@rxzila I just broke my compressor blades two days ago lol. Rebuild time for my turbo. All because I was too impatient to wait for my GReddy type-S
dnuofntsol 1 year ago
SO WHO CARES IT FUCKIN SOUNDS OFFTAP
mrskitz 2 years ago
that a fucken dose not a screamer
JTLAGG 2 years ago
Lol i know where the first vid was filmed :O
bdl6969 2 years ago
WTF this car doesnt even have a screamer pipe!!
DKandrew 2 years ago
that sound is a "whipple" super charger. thats why they call it that cuz of the sound
LetsWangChung 2 years ago
LOL! Dude your retarded, the "Whipple" is the wastegate, it is called a Dose or Dosing. It's just the exhaust gases venting to the atmosphere through the wastegate. And Dude, it's an RX? Rotary mean anything to you? It's a turbo you tard hahaha
boostonthebrain666 2 years ago
lol you just rolled yourself, since when does a wastegate dose?
davin3 2 years ago
wtf is a "dose" or "dosing"? you're the retard judging by how much you understand turbochargers with a name like boostonthebrain
usdmsw21 2 years ago
fucking retard. turbo is doseing not the gate... and its doseing cause of the air rushing back and spinning the turbo the opisite way... or "compressor surge"..
Booza48 2 years ago
how can a turbo thats spinning at say 10000rpm spin the other way?... its just slowing it down and "cutting" the air so to speek... theres no way in hell that it would slow down, stop, spin the other way, stop, and spin the right way again
mrkayaker 2 years ago 5
for a start 80,000+ rpm. turbos have spun the wheels off from compresser surge "doseing" due to spinning back or slowing down trying to spin the opisite way. all depends on boost
Booza48 2 years ago
im using 10000 as an example... yeah from TRYING to spin the other way (they just slow down) but yeah they can sheer the impeller bolt off and shit! but they wont spin the other way
mrkayaker 2 years ago 3
they spin the other way if the motor stalls after being boosted ;)
Booza48 2 years ago
well yeah.. i cant argue with that lol
mrkayaker 2 years ago
thats just a plum back that makes the flutter, means it is a BOV just not an atmospheric one, its shoots the air backwards threw the turbo and the turbo basically cuts through the air which makes the noise
phr34k1nkewl 2 years ago
compressure surge
Born2BuBalla1 2 years ago
nice vid. but no good screamer
johnnyramma 2 years ago
where was the screamer?? lol. 4fuksake theres no blowoff valve 4 a dose.
muSizm 3 years ago
what makes that sound when he swithes gears is it a bov or something else¿
mitchkuhhh 3 years ago
it isnt a bov u ass, if u want that sort ov sound turn ur bov spring rate to hard, u will end up gettin compressor surge which causes that sound
AzzAboi 3 years ago
Nice! what make is the b.o.v?
nissanboost25 3 years ago
with type of blow off valve do you use???it's fantastic.....plzzzz i need your answer
takisv1989 3 years ago
butterfly b.o.v or a rattle snake
MeinataR 2 years ago
well i can hear a strong wastegate scream coming on. sounds incredible mate, subtle yet sexy, with a cheeky little dose at the end. car is the sexxxx
timberwolve38 3 years ago
derz no screamer u dud sounds exactly like my m8s rx7 if u think ders a screamer on dat u shudnt b allowed 2 own a car rofl
PLEZNU 3 years ago
Ok Bud ;)
rxzila 2 years ago
That's not a screamer :S
anuzolo 3 years ago
Well seeing as its my car i think i know what it has in the engine :)
rxzila 3 years ago
Fail.
Screamer's don't have blow off valves, which is what makes the noise when you change gears/take your foot off the throttle.
Screamer turbo's, (not actually the turbo) rather, screamer pipes, is unexhausted air coming out of your turbo through an open wastegate. There is no blow off sound with screamer pipes, the exhaust goes straight through the engine.
anuzolo 3 years ago
Fail anuzolo.
You still run a BOV with a screamer. The screamer pipe lets the exhaust vented by the wastegate to go to atmosphere instead of back into the exhaust.
A BOV is on the charge side of the turbo, going to the TB. It allows boosted air to vent to atmosphere when the butterfly in the TB closes. It's supposed to prevent damaging compressor surge. Sounds to me like that's what the chattering noise you hear in the video is, but I could be wrong, I don't know what BOV he's running.
Mikecom32 2 years ago
haaha r u sure thats a screamer pipe
coz i think thsts the rotary engine producing it
wrxrulz99 3 years ago
you know thats a rotary when you hear that sound of the engine
tank2g2 3 years ago
love the bov mate!
nigelbunganar 3 years ago
that rx is mint!
preludefan 3 years ago
Nice dose...
bnz500 3 years ago
screamer pipe??? dose pipe yeah?
LOWGM 3 years ago
yea sounds cool and all but still. compressor surge over time is bad. even though all you haters out there think it isnt. one day you will see. even if your turbo doesnt just fully die. go take it to the dyno and see if you loose hp. but it is proven to be bad.
jdmforever001 3 years ago
sounds like a RX-7 man nice car.
5l03r 3 years ago
mazda rx 7 ?
Koler7 3 years ago
Sure is!
trustthegenius 3 years ago
Is That A Rota??
danielsmyname 3 years ago
Nice compressor surge.
solidus311 3 years ago
I hope you realise compressor surge only causes noticeable damage if you're running 25psi or alot higher than the real efficiency range of your turbo after long periods of time..
Just because you HEAR compressor surge it does not mean it's damaging.. Read about it.
ignuz 3 years ago 2
Thank you.
bnz500 3 years ago
That sounds wicked
GESALT1 3 years ago
the car looks really familar
mightygood1 3 years ago
nice ride dude. sounds sweet as. Love the sound of the surge flutter, but i personally wouldnt continually do it to mine. As for a lot of the retarded comments ive read on here... dont comment unless u kno what ur talking about u retards... u kno who im talking to.
warbzy1 3 years ago
thats sik bro, go the ROTARIES!
ak47rotary12a 3 years ago
you should fix that flutter it can cause impeller to fuck up
HoodRat1310 3 years ago
where did you get the screamer pipe done and how much it cost ya
shiftyVL 3 years ago
Ffs,hear it in real life then comment
darkrx777 3 years ago
sounds fucking sick with the flutter
nice i like this rotor
ceysuns 3 years ago
wow lol nice rotary. sounds like a duck with a cold
theinneruniverse 3 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA noice
RB26S13 3 years ago
that mazda 45sec into the video looks hot with it's 2 tone, you little ripper!
econo84 3 years ago
i need to get me a rotor, my dad owned 1 of these beauties way back.....
legacy280 4 years ago
No blow off valve sounds mint!
drkspd 4 years ago
I have an 83 RX-7 with a 12A. I am not sure whether I want to go with a turbo or with a peripheral port. How much boost are you running? Port size?
rotarymiata 4 years ago
That setup had a 13b extend port, boost settings were 9 & 14psi... Made 375rwhp on 14psi
rxzila 4 years ago
omg dude! it's like an '83ish rx7! a friend of mine has one like that with a black racing stripe in his driveway. wow.
anth4484 4 years ago
Its a s3 rx7 with a 13BT
rxzila 4 years ago
after 3 years of hektik compressor surging in my r32, at 15psi, my turbo is still good, had it out on the track, thrashed it on the streets, burnouts, dunno y people say its bad for ur turbo... i understand how it works an by rights it should fuk the turbo but 3 years on and im still dosing lol...
rb31 4 years ago
the yellow one is a series 1 rx-7.
not sure if its the same car for the in-car camera, but it does sound like a rotary also.
triumphdollysprint 4 years ago
judging by the pop up lights and the noisy engine, its probs still the rx-7, or a 180sx with no exhaust.
triumphdollysprint 4 years ago
man compressor surge is fukn sikkkk bro!!! manual shift the auto like a sik kunt for more rpm and a better dose ule!!!! then snap a turbo fan blade with the comp surge and have it launched at 6psi into your manifold, then into a cylinder, and fuck your engine!!! SIKKKKKKKK MATE!
at least it sounds full sick n that.
wik'd.
(no.)
triumphdollysprint 4 years ago
Pity this engine dosnt have cylinders mate ;)
rxzila 4 years ago
mmtrue.
my bad.
the fd rx7 is a mad car, why do that to the engine and turbo?
the engine sounds great, and im sure just a BOV would sounds great.
triumphdollysprint 4 years ago
It was only temporary. The car has a BOV now
rxzila 4 years ago
wicked.
mad car.
triumphdollysprint 4 years ago
"sounds sick. blow off valves are for turds wtih stock wrxs, and 1.8t volkswagens. compressor surge is for MEN. keep up the solid work."
It'll sound fantastic when the compressor wheel finally decides its had enough and gives up the ghost. compressor surge is for "men" who don't understand.
im1469 4 years ago
"sounds sick. blow off valves are for turds wtih stock wrxs, and 1.8t volkswagens. compressor surge is for MEN. keep up the solid work."
Hes not using a blow off vavle that noise is turbo chatter you dick.
PosiXJamie 4 years ago
Its not caused from the wastegate. Its from not using a BOV. If you still run a filter you'll be fine. Search for 'VL DOSE' and youll see heaps of them.
bretty1000 4 years ago
wow...thats kind've annoying. its fun throwing peices of food at it at random.
lcsbandgeek740 4 years ago
Seriously, I see a nice car, then it makes that noise.
"Man, it's putting out 900KW!!!"
"Yeah, and it sounds totally gay! Good work!"
krager666 4 years ago
I don't get why everyone wants that noise. It sounds gay as fuck, like a turkey or some kind of cutesy soft toy.
krager666 4 years ago
sounds sick. blow off valves are for turds wtih stock wrxs, and 1.8t volkswagens. compressor surge is for MEN. keep up the solid work.
slidewaysgts 4 years ago
compressor surge isnt a good thing...you know that right?
supradave9 4 years ago
how do you make it dose/flutter like that... unless its a specific BOV (if so what kind...) sounds killa1
aus300zx 4 years ago
its air being sucked back into the turbo, its actually quite bad and will eventually ruin it or cause damage so if u hear it fix it
keeevan 4 years ago
sik dose bro, sounds tuff comin from a rx7,
muztek11 4 years ago
bov's or any kind of vent to atmos can damage your engine
jones6163 4 years ago
How do you figure that??
chrisdef15 4 years ago
That's some nice compressor slam..Don't you like your turbo? GET A BOV! WIND THE BOOST UP! :P.. You can still keep the flutter.. Get Blitz SS :D
nrgsileighty 4 years ago
In actual fact research shows that not having a BOV does not cause any damage to the turbo in an application such as mine. Maybe if you were running in excess of 40psi, but not on 14pound. Furthermore, it aids next to nothing in throttle response. A BOV is just a wank factor option ;) more than happy to show you the specs
rxzila 4 years ago
i disagree m8 totally. its taking the built up pressure away from the turbo making it have to work harder to build boost back up. thats bollocks. your engine must be old and shite in that case. rubbish.
jones6163 4 years ago
what type of blow of valve is that? its fukn cool as
suzwig 4 years ago
No BOV is used, as discussed in previous comments ;)
rxzila 4 years ago
fear69 is a retard
RULUCE 4 years ago
sounds cool..but it's bad for you...( i have a svo running 30 psi from a holset he351)
chemical79excuse 4 years ago
Finally...one of the most awesome rotary clips on here
Great car..sounds beautiful...must be a dream to drive
GON23Q 4 years ago
so why are these guys trying to destroy their turbo instead of just venting the excess boost pressure to the atmostphere or recirculating it back into their intake tract?
Deadrodent 4 years ago
lol i thought it was one of those excorcist face videos(hence the name screamer compilation)
MylesMoore 4 years ago
is that compressor surge, or is that an hks ssq bov with one of the several special fittings you can buy for it?
waynehead05 4 years ago
No BOV is used
rxzila 4 years ago
what's making that sound then? the wastegate?
waynehead05 4 years ago
Its often incorrectly referred to as wastegate flutter. In fact the wastegate can't actually flutter. Its called compressor blade reversion... Whereby the air pressure coming from your closed throttle plate hits the compressor wheel of your turbo
rxzila 4 years ago
yea i thought that is what compressor surge is. when air hits the blades and makes them go backwards.
waynehead05 4 years ago
do ya no this waste gate flutter how can ya amplifie it i only get it a lol boost b4 the actuall dump cums in
h348aee 4 years ago
lol no BOX is used..... yeah fucken right u can hear it after the first few seconds, u have nfi wtf ur talkin bout fucken tard.
Fear6969 4 years ago
actually it's the air bouncing between the throttle body and the compressor blades of the turbo. Thusly why the sound reverberates so much. Some BOV's sound similar when they create compressor surge from not opening all the way, or fast enough. Generally not healthy for the life of the turbo though. So you sir, are the tard.
snowburton86 4 years ago
Pants got wet
SpliteR 5 years ago
oh man that car is sick
crazydesi1947 5 years ago
nice turbo flutter
joshmanhahaha 5 years ago
rotarys sound nice
boostedclied 5 years ago