Rush, you are a racist. Don't you understand you can't criticize a black person when he acts like a thug? That's racism. In fact, any criticisim of black culture is racist. You're racist if you criticize black men for having 7 kids by 7 different women. You're racist if you don't like the fact that Shanekwa has 6 kids by 6 different fathers, and has been on welfare for 20 years. You're racist if you bring up the fact that blacks (12% of the population) commit half the crime in this country.
There's a great example folks of what liberals are all about. Look kid, you have no respect for America or the rights of others and that's EXACTLY why conservatives dislike liberalism. This great nation was founded on the belief in the inalienable rights such as the first amendment-FREEDOM OF SPEECH. But of course you don't want an arena where those who disagree are allowed THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL rights. Ever read the Constitution? Get a copy from Heritage Foundation. It's free.
people are stupid..yall think he's racist for taking the mic from her? probably an asshole but that doesn't make him racist. shit, most white people try to avoid black people as much as possible, assuming we'll do something to them..yall need to really open your eyes and see who the real racists are. i would honestly say that african americans are the least racist race
@MRinglew00d Well lets debate. The VMA situation, it could be racism, who knows. But Kanye has had anti white lyrics in his songs before, so that could be an indication. Btw, it dosent matter if your white,black,asian,etc, you can be racist. Btw, contrary to your beliefs,NOT ALL WHITES ARE RACIST. NOT ALL BLACKS ARENT RACIST. For you to say blacks are the least racist is pure ignorance.
Don't forget how he isolated himself from the sane. How he only pledged to help the black families "his people" because the President was out to get the victims during the Hurricane Katrina recovery. What about everyone else? Would he or you refuse bread to your starving countryman, regardless of race. This is another human that is illogical,egotistical, misunderstood, and racist. One of the few things BHO was right about--jackass!
Kanye speaks with a "Negro Dialect" in addition to being drunk, where the hell is the Drunk Negro Interpreter in addition to the French and German Interpreter?
Black guy and white Guy walk through New York. Black Guy punches white guy randomly in the face. Boom: you got a case of racism going on. Oh and let the black guy go, after all: punching so. in the face is nothing compared to whats going on in New York on a daily basis.
if black people ran the world and called whites honky all the time white people would do the same thing. Fuck rush......fuck you crackers......and fuckk white people everywhere.....
Actually Rush is the one bringing up Race in a subject that had nothing to do with it in the first place, he's knows his listeners are going to eat it up, and the fact that he's connecting this crap to Obama is even more desperate and sad.
Ummmm. What does Obama have to do with Kanye West being a jerk to Taylor Swift? The Tea party crowd are clearly being racist because of their rhetoric. Signs of Obama as a witch doctor or using clearly ethnic slurs geared to man's race. Only, Rush could find parallels to Obama & Kanye.....
i agree with rush i think kanye is a jackass but what does that have to do with obama? even obama said he was a jackass how do you turn this situation into talking about being racist like we all know rush is
This foul mouth seats behind a microphone all day and spits our rubbish to morons who have nothing better to do with their time. I guess it's better than being on drugs. What a joke!
humanimal369... you have to be black. then you can be a racist, marxist, etc. you can fill prisons, steal, rape, rob and all is forgiven. BUT, you must be black. if your are white doing all this you. are a RACIST!
That racism cruch is old. We already know there is racism. Racism will never end. Thats like saying. "lets stop murder. Lets end murder forever". Its true. Sorry. Just ask the leader of Iran.
haha people didnt get mad at kanye cus he's black or whatever...peolple got mad at him cus he has a long deuche track record and the incident was like the last straw before people were like alright we're sicc of this deuche
So what this idiot Gay Fish did to Taylor not racist. That is "white" girl could have had a better video than a "black" girl. Or that a "man" came in and disrespected a woman. It is that Kayne West is a flaming asshole for what he did to a women that he dosen't respect or care about and just to pop off his ass of a mouth. Get off the white or black thing. Idiots!
I guess I mistyped slightly. If there is a dispute between white people and black people, Rush ALWAYS takes the white person's side. And is ALWAYS against the black person. What he said about DONAVAN MCNABB is CASE IN POINT. I mistyped, sorry, but I didn't say that he criticizes EVERY black person, or that he stands behind EVERY white person. If you think that Rush Limbaugh is NOT a racist, then you are simply a racist.
So you've never witnessed Rush taking a black person's side over a white person, and that is the basis of your conclusion that he is a racist? Is that correct? You never heard the times he took the side of Clarence Thomas and Condeliza Rice when they were being "bashed" by white Liberals? What conclusion do you draw from him defending Bill Cosby against black Liberals?
I'm not making any claims, one direction or another, on whether or not he is a racist. I'm trying to follow your logic in your accusation that he his. My previous questions stand.
Do you consider the context of the statements to be irrelevant? For instance, if I intentionally made an absurd statement, that did not reflect my actual opinions, in response to a statement that was absurd. Would you ignore that context and assume the statement that I made was my actual opinion?
Of course context is important. When thinking about context, you should consider the fact that he had a radio show, broadcast across the country. He regularly insults black people with demeaning, hatefilled speech, and millions of racist people think it's just great. If you had a friend that made a joke once with a few people around, he may just be trying to funny. But if a person stands in front of crowds of people and regularly spews racist rhetoric, and that attracts crowds, he is not JK
I looked up the quotes you offered. One of them is fake, the other was said in the 70's, in a moment of frustration, and he felt sorry for it. I'm not excusing him, but it does bring up another context. Being frustrated with someone enough to say something you know will insult them, regardless of your true feelings.
With the other two quotes, I did find many sources, but absolutely no context. Without context, one is simply assuming the meaning.
Meeting absurdity with absurdity is one possible context. Another is in following another person's line of reasoning to expose the flaw in their reasoning, which often results in statements that are interpretable as flawed in some way, when taken out of their appropriate context. Then there is simple sarcasm. These are just three examples of contexts that can result in statements that are not genuinely believed by the speaker.
It looks like really hard work to try to make these statements by Rush Limbaugh not seem racist. I don't think he expects the people that enjoy these racist comments to do as much homework as you have done here. Which one is fake? How does someone saying something in the 70's make the statement any less racist? And under what context is it OK to be racist? These quotes were merely what I could look up and forward in written form, because it is not always easy to hunt down and find quotes.
"under what context is it OK to be racist?" I think this is the root of the whole issue. It's the context which determines whether or not a person is a racist. If it was merely the uuterance, then anyone who quoted an actual racist's genuinely racist words would then qualify as racist. For all anyone knows, he could have been throwing an accusation of hers back at her. -- I'll see if I can fenagle those urls into a comment by adding spaces to them.
Ok, I didn't do proper research on the medal one there, my bad.
Let me offer you this angle here. When the bus-fight story broke out, instantly Rush Limbaugh saw a "black v white" fight. He didn't see kids fighting kids. I guarantee that you would NEVER hear Rush Limbaugh treat a story where white people beat up a black person the same way, and try to say that it says something about AMERICA. Then he tries to put it on OBAMA. Why? Because OBAMA is African American. Maybe it's the OC's talking
I'm not trying try to show that he's not a racists. Again, it's irrellivant, whether he is or not. The point is that quotes with no context are not proof of racism. It's only proof of utterance. To prove racism, one absolutely must provide context, and I have yet to see any person at all provide context, or at the very least, context that actually proves racism. It's always been just a matter of faith for them.
Like I said, these are just the quotes you can pull up from a quick google search. All you have to do is listen to his show enough and you get the understanding that he is a racist. That is part of his appeal. If it wasn't he would have been taken off the air by now by lack of ratings. If you can't read between the lines and see that, you either don't pay enough attention to his words, our you are a racist for not being disgusted at his blatant racism. You are offering hypotheticals notfact
How am I not offering facts? It's a fact that these quotes are provided with no context. It's a fact that context is the most important part when judging the meaning of someone's words. It's a fact that out-of-context quotes do not necessarily prove he's a racist, and the hypotheticals I provide serve to further support these facts by showing alternate, reasonable possibilities. Reading between the lines is a course of subjective interpretation. If you want to see racism, then you will.
It looks like you put up a genuine math problem there. The answer you are looking for is "+" in the blank space. You have given enough information there to assume that the answer is addition, because if someone got "11" with any other mathematical sign there, then they would have been blindly putting a number there.
So from this metaphor, you would have to conclude that Rush is either racist (and taking leaps with logic), or blindly ending up with racist conclusions.
I retract the equation comment, as it did not serve it's intended purpose, by my own fault. -- The point was that you need to know what's in the blank before you can determine whether or not the equation is correct (not the "purpose" btw). Context, again. No matter. Was a wasted comment anyway. It looks to me like we agree that context is important (or more technically accurately, required). And that subjective assertions do not constitute fact. Do we indeed agree on those two points?
I replied to this but it seems it didn't post, so here it is again: I did not comment on the bus fight, because I do not have anywhere near enough information on it. It would be irresponsable of me to do so. Is that the same reason that you did not reply to this question? "What conclusion do you draw from him defending Bill Cosby against black Liberals?" In any case, any comments that I could make without the information would be redundant.
I didn't comment on the Bill Cosby quote because I had a larger point to make and that was if you think Rush Limbaugh is not a racist that you must be a racist yourself (mind you I mean the larger-hypothetical "you"). I think Bill Cosby can be the best judge of whether Rush really supports him. Bill is well aware that Rush sees the bus-fight incident simply as a "black and white" thing. The bus fight only happened a couple of weeks ago, you can look it up and get all the info you need.
I think you are choosing to understand his words in a way that you want to if you do not think he is a racist person. Just because you don't hear every single word the man says doesn't mean that you can't make a conclusion based on the things that you DO hear. Why ever make a conclusion about any human being, unless you have heard everything they have ever said since they were born? I don't go around judging all sorts of people frivolously - Rush is just a totally OBVIOUS example of a racist.
Come to think of it, I would also need to hear the audio, in order to be even more certain as to whether or not he's maybe just being fececious in order to expand on a previously made point. I agree that you can draw a conclusion based only on what you do hear, but that doesn't mean it's accurate. You can even draw the conclusion that it's obviously one thing or another. When you want to ignore potentially vital evidence, then your imagination is the only limit.
and that is precisely why if you WANT to pretend that Rush Limbaugh is not racist, then nothing can change your mind. There is more than enough evidence to prove that the man is a racist piece of shit. If you don't see that, then you don't pay enough attention to his show to judge either way. I am no longer interested in trying to prove my point. It's like trying to talk to someone that puts his fingers in his ears and goes "ladidadidada". Go listen to his show, and you will get the idea.
Given that there is a difference between evidence and proof, I agree that a lot of evidence of phrases that can be interpretted as racist, but that can just as easily not be by virtue of the lack of context. You already agreed that context is important, yet all the evidence is without context, and therfore does not qualify as proof. I have not said nor implied that he is not racist. I don't need to listen to the show to point out an absence of proof on this page.
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink." It is not my job to make you go and do the research. There is plenty of evidence to be found. If you want to find the information, go listen to his show. If you then conclude that he is not a racist man, then all the power to you, but it won't be for a lack of evidence. If you are not interested enough in the subject matter to look it up on your own, then what difference does your opinion make on this subject? You are on your own.
What opinion? My opinion is irrelavent. Have you been trying to convince me that he's racist? If I do or if I don't, it doesn't change the facts regarding proof. I wasn't trying to change your opinion of him. Why were you trying to change mine?
I am not trying to change your opinion, that was the point of what I was saying. But your opinion has clearly been stated, and that is: based on the information available to you, you cannot judge whether Rush Limbaugh is racist.
I was saying that there is plenty of proper evidence to support the claim. And if you really care about the matter, then at this point you would look into it on your own. If you do not care about the subject matter then get a life; be a monkey wrench to someone else.
"I was saying that there is plenty of proper evidence to support the claim." But no presented proof. My interest was the illogic in insistent claiming of fact in the absence of proof, and that is what I've been looking into the whole time, from my very first reply. And you've been very helpful in that exploration. Thank you.
If you weren't trying to change my opinion, then to what "water" were you "leading" the "horse"? And how am I being a monkey wrench, given that I have not disproven your position, and given that we agreed on the fundamentals of the logistical requirements?
Horse = You (once again metaphor - no insult intended)
Drink = Taking the Evidence for what it is
I was not trying to change your mind, that there is or isn't enough proof. That is also what the metaphor means. That I would not want to MAKE you DRINK. Thanks for the correspondence.
If you can look at all of the info that is out there on the subject matter and keep deluding yourself by pretending it is inconclusive, you either don't care about the subject matter and there is no reason to continue this back and forth, or you support the man in his efforts, and are blind to his racist vitriol.
Either that or you don't know what words mean. This is getting dumb, there is plenty of context out there to be found - go look it up.
@Amiel912, If Rush Limbaugh said Jesus was the devil, would you take up that opinion as well? Your brain can create it's own opinion, there is no need to blindly follow someone else's. I know what I am saying is just going from one ear to the next, but at the end of the day I can say I tried.
Kayne West- typical black thug piece of shit. And there are hundreds of thousands more black thug pieces of shit just like him in our society.
MrCope456 1 month ago
Rush, you are a racist. Don't you understand you can't criticize a black person when he acts like a thug? That's racism. In fact, any criticisim of black culture is racist. You're racist if you criticize black men for having 7 kids by 7 different women. You're racist if you don't like the fact that Shanekwa has 6 kids by 6 different fathers, and has been on welfare for 20 years. You're racist if you bring up the fact that blacks (12% of the population) commit half the crime in this country.
MrCope456 1 month ago
@MrCope456 get a life pig!
MrMuta31 3 days ago
... So people were criticizing Kanye, and Rush is mad that they didn't play the race card?
And this has something to do with Obama for some reason?
And people listen to this guy?
DarkEmergence 6 months ago
FUCK KANYE AND FUCK YOU RUSH
tonyteb 6 months ago
Go Fuck yourself its about a who desrve it or not i don`t know how you can paint that as racists, FU
libanboom 1 year ago
@libanboom **whooooosh!!!*
thats the sound of a profound point of false racism claims going over your head!
VegasBilgeRat 1 year ago
i would like to start a pet ion to shut rush out of utube
scorpioman1000 1 year ago
@scorpioman1000
There's a great example folks of what liberals are all about. Look kid, you have no respect for America or the rights of others and that's EXACTLY why conservatives dislike liberalism. This great nation was founded on the belief in the inalienable rights such as the first amendment-FREEDOM OF SPEECH. But of course you don't want an arena where those who disagree are allowed THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL rights. Ever read the Constitution? Get a copy from Heritage Foundation. It's free.
THEVETERAN7 1 year ago
people are stupid..yall think he's racist for taking the mic from her? probably an asshole but that doesn't make him racist. shit, most white people try to avoid black people as much as possible, assuming we'll do something to them..yall need to really open your eyes and see who the real racists are. i would honestly say that african americans are the least racist race
MRinglew00d 1 year ago
@MRinglew00d Well lets debate. The VMA situation, it could be racism, who knows. But Kanye has had anti white lyrics in his songs before, so that could be an indication. Btw, it dosent matter if your white,black,asian,etc, you can be racist. Btw, contrary to your beliefs,NOT ALL WHITES ARE RACIST. NOT ALL BLACKS ARENT RACIST. For you to say blacks are the least racist is pure ignorance.
AsukuraPunk 1 year ago
Don't forget how he isolated himself from the sane. How he only pledged to help the black families "his people" because the President was out to get the victims during the Hurricane Katrina recovery. What about everyone else? Would he or you refuse bread to your starving countryman, regardless of race. This is another human that is illogical,egotistical, misunderstood, and racist. One of the few things BHO was right about--jackass!
PootNokka 1 year ago
@joelshell1, Why?
Chimera1591 1 year ago
Kanye speaks with a "Negro Dialect" in addition to being drunk, where the hell is the Drunk Negro Interpreter in addition to the French and German Interpreter?
AR15fan 1 year ago
i love Kanye, he's real.
talia9741 1 year ago
Black guy and white Guy walk through New York. Black Guy punches white guy randomly in the face. Boom: you got a case of racism going on. Oh and let the black guy go, after all: punching so. in the face is nothing compared to whats going on in New York on a daily basis.
IHSchwingo 1 year ago
if black people ran the world and called whites honky all the time white people would do the same thing. Fuck rush......fuck you crackers......and fuckk white people everywhere.....
keonpisces 2 years ago
Actually Rush is the one bringing up Race in a subject that had nothing to do with it in the first place, he's knows his listeners are going to eat it up, and the fact that he's connecting this crap to Obama is even more desperate and sad.
TheDalinkwent 2 years ago 4
Ummmm. What does Obama have to do with Kanye West being a jerk to Taylor Swift? The Tea party crowd are clearly being racist because of their rhetoric. Signs of Obama as a witch doctor or using clearly ethnic slurs geared to man's race. Only, Rush could find parallels to Obama & Kanye.....
troubleman245 2 years ago
kanye is a cunt
mofillabumtempi 2 years ago
kanye is the gayest of the gayfish
Cutterxx4 2 years ago 8
Kanye is racist
OnThatPowder 2 years ago
This is what happens when a racist like Rush Limbaugh tries to cover up the fact that he's racist.
Why is it Cognac, Rush? What the hell does this have to do with Obama?
YOU are the racist fuck.
immanuelx2 2 years ago
man i can relate with rush, i love drugs too
OnThatPowder 2 years ago
What is this? Rush Limbaugh is really bitter. Why can't he just denounce Kanye without relating it to Obama?
buriedmybone 2 years ago
i agree with rush i think kanye is a jackass but what does that have to do with obama? even obama said he was a jackass how do you turn this situation into talking about being racist like we all know rush is
dnarikawa 2 years ago
This foul mouth seats behind a microphone all day and spits our rubbish to morons who have nothing better to do with their time. I guess it's better than being on drugs. What a joke!
cfecpaharry 2 years ago
Rush is brilliant. The libtards weep.
IMBLUESTREAK23 2 years ago
humanimal369... you have to be black. then you can be a racist, marxist, etc. you can fill prisons, steal, rape, rob and all is forgiven. BUT, you must be black. if your are white doing all this you. are a RACIST!
mrdreamwhip 2 years ago
stfu
travkeyes 2 years ago
That racism cruch is old. We already know there is racism. Racism will never end. Thats like saying. "lets stop murder. Lets end murder forever". Its true. Sorry. Just ask the leader of Iran.
Snickbud 2 years ago
haha people didnt get mad at kanye cus he's black or whatever...peolple got mad at him cus he has a long deuche track record and the incident was like the last straw before people were like alright we're sicc of this deuche
Vidabonds 2 years ago
Yawn. Rush is losing it.
richgriffin77 2 years ago
Great Job Rush......
rockynkelli 2 years ago
Fuck Rush. Fuck Kanye. They both are pieces of shit.
FullOfFail 2 years ago 2
you got it!!
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
Sarcasm at it's finest (i'm not being sarcastic).
Love you Rush!
saintcaitlan143 2 years ago
This guy is an asshole, why would u have to pull racism into this. It was just stupid what he did, not racism.
jay2coolfau 2 years ago
because every time the right is critical of obama they say its racist rush is trying to make a point but it went right over your head
homer00316 2 years ago 2
That is typically brilliant Rush Limbaugh. Anyone who think Rush is just a racist is too slow to follow along.
apologeticjedi 2 years ago
So what this idiot Gay Fish did to Taylor not racist. That is "white" girl could have had a better video than a "black" girl. Or that a "man" came in and disrespected a woman. It is that Kayne West is a flaming asshole for what he did to a women that he dosen't respect or care about and just to pop off his ass of a mouth. Get off the white or black thing. Idiots!
APandOBAMASUK 2 years ago
If Rush is racist then so is Kanye.
kanaan4140 2 years ago
Black people hate Rush because he dont kiss their asses. He is right 90% of the time and is not racist by anymeans
bmac10112 2 years ago
its scary that this guy preaches to so many people. The hatred in his voice is so clear.
fuckyiuyiu 2 years ago
You know he has a black guy (Phd in econ...) sub for him when he's off and the shows producer is black as well.
anon2999 2 years ago
These right wing blowhards ONLY criticize black people and ONLY stand behind white people.
ONLY AND EVER!!!!!
that is messed up
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
Are you out of your mind? Rush built his career on bashing the Clintons.
Sorry, you don't know what you are talking about.
landline00 2 years ago
Are you saying they never stood up for Clarence Thomas or Condeliza Rice, or are you saying they aren't black?
humanimal369 2 years ago
I guess I mistyped slightly. If there is a dispute between white people and black people, Rush ALWAYS takes the white person's side. And is ALWAYS against the black person. What he said about DONAVAN MCNABB is CASE IN POINT. I mistyped, sorry, but I didn't say that he criticizes EVERY black person, or that he stands behind EVERY white person. If you think that Rush Limbaugh is NOT a racist, then you are simply a racist.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
So you've never witnessed Rush taking a black person's side over a white person, and that is the basis of your conclusion that he is a racist? Is that correct? You never heard the times he took the side of Clarence Thomas and Condeliza Rice when they were being "bashed" by white Liberals? What conclusion do you draw from him defending Bill Cosby against black Liberals?
humanimal369 2 years ago
well, if you think he is not a racist, then you don't understand words
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
I'm not making any claims, one direction or another, on whether or not he is a racist. I'm trying to follow your logic in your accusation that he his. My previous questions stand.
humanimal369 2 years ago
These are some of Rush's quotes:
"You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed."
"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller)."
"The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."
"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"
Now these were VERY easy to find.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
Do you consider the context of the statements to be irrelevant? For instance, if I intentionally made an absurd statement, that did not reflect my actual opinions, in response to a statement that was absurd. Would you ignore that context and assume the statement that I made was my actual opinion?
humanimal369 2 years ago
Of course context is important. When thinking about context, you should consider the fact that he had a radio show, broadcast across the country. He regularly insults black people with demeaning, hatefilled speech, and millions of racist people think it's just great. If you had a friend that made a joke once with a few people around, he may just be trying to funny. But if a person stands in front of crowds of people and regularly spews racist rhetoric, and that attracts crowds, he is not JK
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
I looked up the quotes you offered. One of them is fake, the other was said in the 70's, in a moment of frustration, and he felt sorry for it. I'm not excusing him, but it does bring up another context. Being frustrated with someone enough to say something you know will insult them, regardless of your true feelings.
With the other two quotes, I did find many sources, but absolutely no context. Without context, one is simply assuming the meaning.
humanimal369 2 years ago
Meeting absurdity with absurdity is one possible context. Another is in following another person's line of reasoning to expose the flaw in their reasoning, which often results in statements that are interpretable as flawed in some way, when taken out of their appropriate context. Then there is simple sarcasm. These are just three examples of contexts that can result in statements that are not genuinely believed by the speaker.
humanimal369 2 years ago
There are numerous other possible contexts that can lead to misinterpretted statements when they are removed from the context.
I have 4 links to reference, but I apparently cannot post them, which is highly unfortunate.
humanimal369 2 years ago
It looks like really hard work to try to make these statements by Rush Limbaugh not seem racist. I don't think he expects the people that enjoy these racist comments to do as much homework as you have done here. Which one is fake? How does someone saying something in the 70's make the statement any less racist? And under what context is it OK to be racist? These quotes were merely what I could look up and forward in written form, because it is not always easy to hunt down and find quotes.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
"under what context is it OK to be racist?" I think this is the root of the whole issue. It's the context which determines whether or not a person is a racist. If it was merely the uuterance, then anyone who quoted an actual racist's genuinely racist words would then qualify as racist. For all anyone knows, he could have been throwing an accusation of hers back at her. -- I'll see if I can fenagle those urls into a comment by adding spaces to them.
humanimal369 2 years ago
"medal" (the fake one)
ht tp :/ /maaadddog.wordpress. com/2009/03/04/quotation-attributed-to-rush-limbaugh-is-a-damnable-lie/
"bone"
ht tp :/ /ww w. snopes. com/politics/quotes/limbaugh. asp
The first 7 "paragraphs".
ht tp :/ /ww w.freerepublic. com/focus/f-bloggers/2182290/posts
Some points about context.
ht tp :/ /boards.bengals. com/showthread. ph p?p=1260565
humanimal369 2 years ago
Ok, I didn't do proper research on the medal one there, my bad.
Let me offer you this angle here. When the bus-fight story broke out, instantly Rush Limbaugh saw a "black v white" fight. He didn't see kids fighting kids. I guarantee that you would NEVER hear Rush Limbaugh treat a story where white people beat up a black person the same way, and try to say that it says something about AMERICA. Then he tries to put it on OBAMA. Why? Because OBAMA is African American. Maybe it's the OC's talking
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
I'm not trying try to show that he's not a racists. Again, it's irrellivant, whether he is or not. The point is that quotes with no context are not proof of racism. It's only proof of utterance. To prove racism, one absolutely must provide context, and I have yet to see any person at all provide context, or at the very least, context that actually proves racism. It's always been just a matter of faith for them.
humanimal369 2 years ago
Like I said, these are just the quotes you can pull up from a quick google search. All you have to do is listen to his show enough and you get the understanding that he is a racist. That is part of his appeal. If it wasn't he would have been taken off the air by now by lack of ratings. If you can't read between the lines and see that, you either don't pay enough attention to his words, our you are a racist for not being disgusted at his blatant racism. You are offering hypotheticals notfact
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
How am I not offering facts? It's a fact that these quotes are provided with no context. It's a fact that context is the most important part when judging the meaning of someone's words. It's a fact that out-of-context quotes do not necessarily prove he's a racist, and the hypotheticals I provide serve to further support these facts by showing alternate, reasonable possibilities. Reading between the lines is a course of subjective interpretation. If you want to see racism, then you will.
humanimal369 2 years ago
Well, you have to look up the word "fact", because when saying something it "most important" that is not FACT that is opinion.
You have to work hard to try to not see Rush Limbaugh as a racist. You have to be a racist if you think he is not.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
5_6=11. Is knowing what is in the blank not the most important thing in determining whether or not that math problem is accurate?
humanimal369 2 years ago
It looks like you put up a genuine math problem there. The answer you are looking for is "+" in the blank space. You have given enough information there to assume that the answer is addition, because if someone got "11" with any other mathematical sign there, then they would have been blindly putting a number there.
So from this metaphor, you would have to conclude that Rush is either racist (and taking leaps with logic), or blindly ending up with racist conclusions.
You are reaching here...
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
I retract the equation comment, as it did not serve it's intended purpose, by my own fault. -- The point was that you need to know what's in the blank before you can determine whether or not the equation is correct (not the "purpose" btw). Context, again. No matter. Was a wasted comment anyway. It looks to me like we agree that context is important (or more technically accurately, required). And that subjective assertions do not constitute fact. Do we indeed agree on those two points?
humanimal369 2 years ago
And notice that you did not address this bus fight situation at all, because it is a prime example of Rush Limbaugh's blatant racism.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
I replied to this but it seems it didn't post, so here it is again: I did not comment on the bus fight, because I do not have anywhere near enough information on it. It would be irresponsable of me to do so. Is that the same reason that you did not reply to this question? "What conclusion do you draw from him defending Bill Cosby against black Liberals?" In any case, any comments that I could make without the information would be redundant.
humanimal369 2 years ago
I didn't comment on the Bill Cosby quote because I had a larger point to make and that was if you think Rush Limbaugh is not a racist that you must be a racist yourself (mind you I mean the larger-hypothetical "you"). I think Bill Cosby can be the best judge of whether Rush really supports him. Bill is well aware that Rush sees the bus-fight incident simply as a "black and white" thing. The bus fight only happened a couple of weeks ago, you can look it up and get all the info you need.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
As long as what I can look up includes a full transcript of that day's Rush show.
humanimal369 2 years ago
I think you are choosing to understand his words in a way that you want to if you do not think he is a racist person. Just because you don't hear every single word the man says doesn't mean that you can't make a conclusion based on the things that you DO hear. Why ever make a conclusion about any human being, unless you have heard everything they have ever said since they were born? I don't go around judging all sorts of people frivolously - Rush is just a totally OBVIOUS example of a racist.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
Come to think of it, I would also need to hear the audio, in order to be even more certain as to whether or not he's maybe just being fececious in order to expand on a previously made point. I agree that you can draw a conclusion based only on what you do hear, but that doesn't mean it's accurate. You can even draw the conclusion that it's obviously one thing or another. When you want to ignore potentially vital evidence, then your imagination is the only limit.
humanimal369 2 years ago
and that is precisely why if you WANT to pretend that Rush Limbaugh is not racist, then nothing can change your mind. There is more than enough evidence to prove that the man is a racist piece of shit. If you don't see that, then you don't pay enough attention to his show to judge either way. I am no longer interested in trying to prove my point. It's like trying to talk to someone that puts his fingers in his ears and goes "ladidadidada". Go listen to his show, and you will get the idea.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
Given that there is a difference between evidence and proof, I agree that a lot of evidence of phrases that can be interpretted as racist, but that can just as easily not be by virtue of the lack of context. You already agreed that context is important, yet all the evidence is without context, and therfore does not qualify as proof. I have not said nor implied that he is not racist. I don't need to listen to the show to point out an absence of proof on this page.
humanimal369 2 years ago
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink." It is not my job to make you go and do the research. There is plenty of evidence to be found. If you want to find the information, go listen to his show. If you then conclude that he is not a racist man, then all the power to you, but it won't be for a lack of evidence. If you are not interested enough in the subject matter to look it up on your own, then what difference does your opinion make on this subject? You are on your own.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
What opinion? My opinion is irrelavent. Have you been trying to convince me that he's racist? If I do or if I don't, it doesn't change the facts regarding proof. I wasn't trying to change your opinion of him. Why were you trying to change mine?
humanimal369 2 years ago
Actually, more to the point, why were you assuming what my opinion is? Especially when it's irrelavent.
humanimal369 2 years ago
I am not trying to change your opinion, that was the point of what I was saying. But your opinion has clearly been stated, and that is: based on the information available to you, you cannot judge whether Rush Limbaugh is racist.
I was saying that there is plenty of proper evidence to support the claim. And if you really care about the matter, then at this point you would look into it on your own. If you do not care about the subject matter then get a life; be a monkey wrench to someone else.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
"I was saying that there is plenty of proper evidence to support the claim." But no presented proof. My interest was the illogic in insistent claiming of fact in the absence of proof, and that is what I've been looking into the whole time, from my very first reply. And you've been very helpful in that exploration. Thank you.
humanimal369 2 years ago
If you weren't trying to change my opinion, then to what "water" were you "leading" the "horse"? And how am I being a monkey wrench, given that I have not disproven your position, and given that we agreed on the fundamentals of the logistical requirements?
humanimal369 2 years ago
Water = Evidence of Rush's Racism
Leading = My use of the Evidence
Horse = You (once again metaphor - no insult intended)
Drink = Taking the Evidence for what it is
I was not trying to change your mind, that there is or isn't enough proof. That is also what the metaphor means. That I would not want to MAKE you DRINK. Thanks for the correspondence.
Good times.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
"Drink = Taking the Evidence for what it is". Well, what it is is out of context and not proof, and that's exactly how I did take it, so.... Okay.
humanimal369 2 years ago
If you can look at all of the info that is out there on the subject matter and keep deluding yourself by pretending it is inconclusive, you either don't care about the subject matter and there is no reason to continue this back and forth, or you support the man in his efforts, and are blind to his racist vitriol.
Either that or you don't know what words mean. This is getting dumb, there is plenty of context out there to be found - go look it up.
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
I listen to his show just about every day. Rush is not a racist. There is no proof that he is.
shatwood 2 years ago
good luck with that
VitalemRecords 2 years ago
good luck with what?
shatwood 2 years ago
rush is the real racist
tekvest 2 years ago
Should have thrown that thug off the stage.
Craigers22763 2 years ago 2
He was thrown off the stage and off the show. Maybe forever too
born912 2 years ago
Kanye West is the biggest racist in the world!
Amiel912 2 years ago 19
@Amiel912, If Rush Limbaugh said Jesus was the devil, would you take up that opinion as well? Your brain can create it's own opinion, there is no need to blindly follow someone else's. I know what I am saying is just going from one ear to the next, but at the end of the day I can say I tried.
Chimera1591 1 year ago
Kanye is racist.
ysonyou 2 years ago 14
@ysonyou, How?
Chimera1591 1 year ago
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Brenleyluver 2 years ago
fuck obama
arequipa1 2 years ago 3