Conversations: Episode 22 w / 2bsirius - Questions 4 Phantasmagoricals (1-4)

[TJae1]

look sharp ~ mom's here ~

[TJae1]

The brainy bunch gets the royal ~ stikam live ~ gotta luv it ~

[aaronhemeon]

5 Nevertheless, history is not arbitrary. It is answerable to the particularity of the standpoint of the observer. The study of being is itself a comportment, and confesses its nature by noticing itself as conditioned. I fear that the education system of standardized curriculum, of self-so-called "analytic" pride is a denial of freedom in the face of uncertainty through the fearful lurch toward safety, which manifests a world devoid of identity. The shape of the internet is in our hands.

[aaronhemeon]

4 However, when time is held in thought -- when observation turns over indefinitely in the mind until a plan of procedure is selected, wherein the mental cycle temporarily solidifies -- the stage is set to consider not only the results of trial and error, but the history the accrues. By recognizing the levels of detail present through following their emergence one identifies habit and convention with history.

[aaronhemeon]

3 The mistake of materialism is the move to treat the predictable as having higher value. Yet, in people, we seek the opposite. Of course, the advantage of prediction is control. There is an "if, then" built into the code of the universe and observable in its behavior. This logic is that which when turned into the noises of language allows humans to adapt to the conditions of their situation. This shows that the "if, then" can be itself overcome, avoided, harnessed.

[aaronhemeon]

2 The internet is not a pregiven march. Rather, it is an opportunity for humanity to make decisions about the form global communication will take. The corporate use of science, the communication law issues involved in youtube, are matters for deliberation and creativity. I do not believe that complexity can be conserved unless there is a secure space for the exploration of creative capacities.

[aaronhemeon]

1 There is a tension between having a theory of everything and being able to be original. I diverge from both the scientific materialist desire for an exhaustive explanation of the universe and the holistic preference for full comprehension. Built into the prioritization of the less controversial and more secure/predictable areas of inquiry, emerges a world constructed in order to pay homage to these areas. The scientistic world of the future is the world of the fastfood franchise.

[AMCabode]

I thought many times about going to CIIS. Would you recommend it if I enjoy these convos as much as you guys??

[InfectedDaemon]

Wow, all the founders of your school made me cringe (Sri Arubindo and Allan Watts). Swede Jebuz! Even continental philosophy is better than that!

Give me Western philosophy and I'll take it any day.

[jedimasterbooboo]

You crazy kids.

[TheObnubilators]

looks like tere's some discussion brewing here

[modemusicman]

That'll be the clash of the future as it applies to technology. " Traditional Concrete Work" Vs. "Unconventional Abstract Progression"

Mechanical existence vs. Spiritual existence

Limits vs. Limitless

Fear vs. Fearless

Time that does not exist in any other realm other then the human realm will only tell!!!

[ozjthomas]

Bestest episode ever. You all are so smart.

[2bsirius]

BTW...My perspective wasn't the view on screen...That's why I kept worrying about Jon not being in the frame...

[TJae1]

2 b ~ who was that stikam live comment ~ directd 2 ~

[2bsirius]

OMG I'm LOUD!

[tattooskin72]

LOL, I didn't think you were too loud :) Actually, sometimes you cut out a bit!

Great so far... looking forward to the rest. You all brilliant and I enjoy listening to you :)

[TJae1]

Hey Mom ~ thought so ~ U gave these bozs the work over there ~ U should b sweet, even on the comment line *

[peace97914101]

Tell your friend a lie. If he keeps it secret, then tell him the truth. Proverb quotes

If you reveal your secrets to the wind you should not blame the wind for revealing them to the trees. Kahlil Gibran quotes (Lebanese born American philosophical Essayist, Novelist and Poet. 1883-1931)

I like that one.

[1PostPoMoMaN1]

peace97914101 is trying to skip developmental levels again! :)

[peace97914101]

What is love? Love is when one person knows all of your secrets... your deepest, darkest, most dreadful secrets of which no one else in the world knows... and yet in the end, that one person does not think any less of you; even if the rest of the world does.

[MaBu888]

Yes. Love is. Though one love, though.

[InfectedDaemon]

So... can I love Science? Can I love my Job?

It would be illogical to say you know all of he secrets of Science or that it knows all yours.

[peace97914101]

I like science, Never said that people should not.  Never said that science and Religious philosophy could not stand side by side either. Sure you can love your Job. Myself, I am tired of the same old repetitive cycle of work. I would like to do something different for a change, and really mix things up for all of us. But that will totally depend on many of you making a choice. It could start to happen within a matter of months, if people can figure out how to start helping each other.

[peace97914101]

What I have been doing is not some magic trick or some unknown secret. Everyone of you have the abilities to do the same, all it takes is a change of mindset, and how to approach life in general. Start treating each other as equals in knowledge and social classes. It can all begin here on the internet and with the communication devices many of you use everyday. Realize who you are in the world ladies and gentlemen, and the true unique skills each one of you have.

[InfectedDaemon]

Yeah. That's all fine. Just let me define my position a little better. I only take issue with the way you used "Love" as only contingent upon a relationship between agencies or entities. I was saying love can also be from an agency/entity toward a non-agency.

Really, beyond that I don't know your positions on anything else, and I probably will not take issue with them either.

[peace97914101]

Define love?  Please.

[peace97914101]

Is being in love with a woman, the same kind of love as your job? I have never defined Love on this website. In fact quite the opposite.

[InfectedDaemon]

Precisely! That was the question I was posing to you when I made that comment.

You did define love in the comment I responded to. I will site that you said that Love was when a person knows all your secrets and still remains by your side. I'm paraphrasing since I can't find your original comment anymore. But, if you hadn't placed it, we wouldn't be having this conversation ;)

[peace97914101]

Not I did not, I made an example.

As in, why do people act like they do online, which is nothing more than a simple video phone.  Youtube is nothing more than Skype.

So when you talk to your parents on the phone, do you say "I love you" Or how about this.. Hello, Goodbye. Your welcome, Thank you. Not the TV news broadcast robot fake style that many people are adopting on this site.

[peace97914101]

And if you would understand what these two are trying to do on here, they are trying in a sense to do that. But the problem still remains, that people on camera tend to believe they are more superior over those who use text based conversation, and vs versa. Which is much of my problem with many people who get online. So I can play that game too ladies and gentlemen. I can just as easy take over this site, any time I want. So something to think about.

[IceysMoment]

2bsirius have really good ways of thinkin

she is really open minded thats for sure!

pssst::,i know just now,who you

two are talking to..hehe:p

[HaleyMary]

Cool. I found it interesting what Karen said about the book "Ever present origin". i find that it's a book that does require a person to open their mind more to new ideas and new ways of thinking. :)

[LimpLoser]

nice