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  • came here from thottbot

  • Why so aliance?

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  • why does it fucking take so long to burn this boss down. i pugged this raid for this boss. burned it down in less then 2 minutes. seriously wtf man.

  • @mawtini2 This video was posted over a year ago, no one had the gear that your raid probably had.

  • @mawtini2 This is when Naxx was current. Your group probably had some ICC gear. That makes this raid much easier.

  • GAMERS (below)

  • nuhey bin so einsam jemand evtl lust zu camen oder schreibn

  • Rogues cant de-buff enrages i dont think :)

  • Noob :)

  • It's a poison they can use.

  • @iBoomerProduc they anethtetic poison which does it but they lose a lot of dps

  • you pronounce Gluth exactly as it looks, I think pronouncing it as "Glooth" makes it sound much more evil and "zombie-ish"

  • This video isnt all that helpful after they engage Gluth as you can see what the hell is going on in the back of the room.

    Did this the other day with my hunter trying to kite the zombies alone. I dropped frost traps and ran them around the frost spots but it was hard as hell to do it alone and not lose a few now and then. A speed buff like pallys or unholy DK's have would be better I think with a hunter dropping a frost trap to help. I got hit and slowed to often on my hunter and died.

  • i am a duelspec prot/ret pally but for some reason no matter what me and my raid group does we just cant get him down any ideas on how to do this?

  • Mage or hunter kiting the zombies is the most important. Gluth will eat any zombies that get close to him. When Decimate goes off you need all dps to focus on the zombies. Other than that it really isn't to hard of a fight.

  • Rogues can remove the enrage with anesthetic poison on their off hand weapon, and they use Shiv for 100% proc.

  • I see he doesnt trust his healers xD

  • that was at the start of nax when everybody had bad gear think he does it but dum to do it if he dies

  • i had 3 almost tanks with 1 healer off tanked the zombies so the never got close to him to even heal him at all

  • i want his music he has in this video

  • whats the addon where u get ur numbers like the healz and damage took to the right and damage done to the left buffs/others to the top?

  • that addon is called parrot

  • which is that addon like: "Gluth enrage in 5 min" etc?

  • It's called "Deadly Boss mods" (DBM short)

    It gives you information about the bossfight.

  • yep, i got it now thanks. And the "happen" things? ( i dont know how to call this ) where you see (XY) Heal- 12350 on the side?

  • Deadly Boss Mods

  • raid has very low dps lol only 2 over 2k i think :/

  • its probably because a few people are kiting those zombies...

  • Just a question, on how many stacks shall the offtank taunt?

  • our tanks taunt off each other after 3

  • Both tanks should generally taunt after 3 stacks.

  • I did this for the first time on my mage, the hunter that normaly kites did it, his account went out for colledge, i went frost for this fight, only took twice but i didn't know about the stacking debuff the first time.

    Put frost armor up than the trick is to put up ice barrier because when it breaks its like an extra frost nova, move back from them and before they break out hit cone of cold to slow them, if they get too close frost nova, and get creative from there

  • debuff is uncurable... usualy, a good idea is to take a dk or retadin with a tanking off spec to do the kiting, because they can actualy take the zombie hits.... a High health feral druid can single tank this boss, if they pop barkskin at 10 stacks, (and you have it timed to where your not getting decimated past 5 stacks)

  • For kiting the zombies a shaman(me) also works extremely well, just make sure the shaman isn't taking all the damage.

    ~Shamanodude

  • Rogues do have a tranquilizing poison they can apply to there wepons to remove the enrage.

    Falcomaster- Antonidas

  • it's anesthetic poison II, not tranquilizing.. just use Shiv to 100% apply the poison

  • I'm usually the healer(resto druid) that has to heal the kiter, man thats gotta be one of the most stressful fights for me, specially when the debuffs the kiter has is at 300+ and i have 2/3 mobs on me as well. In my opinion, Hunters are the best kiters if they know what they're doing.

  • Every one try this(I invented it XD)...B4 a big pull or boss battle...Set a cooking fire by where the Ranged dps will stay(Mages loks, healers ect). It will boost spirit for the first minute or two and help get a lil mana back

  • dude, that's like 4 spirit, with the added annoyance of trying to avoid running through the fire or standing too close as it causes pushback to casters. i personally wouldn't bother :P

  • You mean, get 4 spirit, which is 4 mana when there not casting, which is pretty much pointless.

  • @MikeW259

    You can't do that hear because you're not out of combat till the boss dies. No preparation time.

  • does the dps hit the boss or the zombies?

  • always dps the boss!! exept for when he decimates u focus on aoe'ing the zombies then get back to boss =)

  • how did u make sct go around the sides so you can see the middle of ur screen..... nice vid =)

  • addon name is parrot

  • what addon is that

  • Many many addons. Google "Ciderhelm UI information."

  • also baby spices from cooking dailies will keep enrages down and increases the distance from the zombies during the decimate period

  • 2:25

    rogues have anasthesic poison, who removes enrages

  • Ok, im level 80, I have some good gear, mostly from heroics,

    Iv never done a raid,

    what raid should I start with?

  • naxxx 10 or os 10

  • You can easily get PUG's for OS and its really quick. Good luck.

  • Thank You = )

  • Start with OS, Its a little small raid.

    And it gives you a good idea what raiding is about, After that move on to naxx.

  • what are your addons?

  • yes rouges have a poison which removes enrage

  • im a hunter and i have a shot that removes 1 enrage effect

  • he was unsure if rouges had a spell that could dispell the enrage he already said that hunters had a spell

  • has anyone else noticed a big jump in how hard it is to get aggro on the chow since the patch because before i could kite no prob, today it was wipefest. anyone else?

  • we just whiped on him sooo fucking bad last night on 10 man....cause people can kite those zombies!

  • some people are just pathetic like you will pug naxx and u invite them and they are 80 with greens. that suck.... people have no clue lol good luck finishing it though

  • thanks dude i got a new griup cause we did pug and i got into a new guild and we only whiped once on 4 horsemen one time

  • Ya thats why the leader is sapose to gear check them, If you bring nothing but nub geard greens into naxx, Your repair bill will be high and you will hardly down any bosses, lol

  • i have decent gear but dunno most fights i pull 3k dps easy i only know half of the naxx fights and people like you who are geared and pull less dps then me doesnt deserve the gear.

  • thanks for the shout out for druid skins :( we're desperate.

  • i had to kite the zombie chow by myself with SV hunter, wiped 2 times before succesfully killing gluth- Some times, you have to apreciate the huntards.... sometimes (10man)

  • I have a question: When Gluth uses decimate, how do you avoid dying? Wouldn't he melee you to death with only a few thousand HP? Or does he stop melee/weaken/otherwise lose the ability to pwn you?

  • nah he still hits you instant heals are real nice in this fight

  • THe lowest i dropped is like 20%. MT got to 5% so i just pulled him off for a while. MY GUILD SAVES :D

  • Don't rely on DBM for this fight. about half of the times in my raids we have experienced that DBM is about 10 seconds late on decimate.

  • Isn't it pronounced Glooth? At least, that's how everyone in vent says it :P

  • the combat addon is

    parrot

  • Is it just me or is Dbm not working on this boss, Like the timer is way off?

  • it WAS a bit off. try updating it.

  • Whats the addon that makes the combat text stuff (1333 damage etc) float in that curve instead of straight up?

  • Mik Scrolling Battle Text

  • sctd = scrolling combat text damage

  • parrot

  • it's a prot warrior

  • LOL cant believe you think thats a pally

  • I wanna know that black background

  • any 1 know whats the addone that shows the damage on th sides ?

  • "sct" or "msbt"

  • Parrot

  • Bartender4 i guess, action bar addon that is

  • What is ur addons on action bars?

  • i would like to know also

  • barttender 4 i think

  • i love you

    this was so helpful

  • the best thing it seems to kite is a fury warrior specced with piercing howl

  • frost mages hunters or have a shaman use earthbind totem is better then a warrior.

  • you can have your opinion

  • (3:15) Rogues have a poison called [Anesthetic Poison II] which is what i think you're talking about.

  • why is this on me 'reccomended fo you' list

  • Totally agree with Ciderhelm :) Druids DO need a new skin

  • my group failed kinda hard here on HC, Gluth was down to 1% and he ate lots of zombies and gained full health...

  • HAHA! thats kinda funny

  • Win.

  • what is the addon called where it scrolls on the screen and shows the picture of what it is like you revenge/heroic strike?

  • The zombies dont hit for mutch but they do apply a stacking debuff withs incresses the dmg you take.

  • The rogue enrage dispel you are referring to is Anesthetic Poison. It's a poison you apply to your weapon.

    Should be applied to an additional weapon in your inventory, to allow quickly equipping it and shiving off the enrage.

    Done with alot more ease by hunters though.

  • Correction on the zombie spawning, they only spawn from the middle I believe.

  • No, they spawn from all three of the "sewer" type areas in the back.

  • For the 10man, don't think so... I've been kiting them and I never notice them spawning anywhere besides the middle.

  • I'm pretty sure, considering I kited them in a 10-man just last week.

  • ive kited em every time my guild has done 10 man, they spawn from only center in 10, all 3 in 25 man

  • I have to agree with Marusu13, I'm the guilds raidleader and I gave myself the kiting job... Every time they spawn from any of the 3 grids although I admit the majority seem to come from the middle grid.

  • yep for 10 man they only spawn from the middle however they spawn from all 3 in 25

  • Thank you for the clear up, and I was certain this time when I was kiting them that they only spawn from the center because that's the only place I drop my frost trap.

  • thanks guys :P

  • so whats idea for kiting the chow around?

  • sorry, i meant to say IDEAL

  • interesting

  • what are the addons showing your healthbar that shows incoming healing, the bar above that that has your cooldowns on it, and the percent above that which shows your percent of health and rage/mana/rune power? plz send me a message so i can get these addons

  • here is a list of all the addons he has

    pitbull>player frames

    bartender 4> action bars

    miks scrolling batle text> text

    omen> threat meter

    those are what i saw good luck :)

  • Ciderhelm doesn't have a threat meter. What you are seeing at the bottom is Recount, a damage meter. Cider is never at any point really topping that, although he maintains agro. It's also probably worth noting that he's using Satrina's buff frames. If you want more info on his UI you can always go to Tankspot where he, and other noteworthy tanks, keep their UIs packaged there.

  • you are right i was mistaken didnt really pay attention but i tried helping some1 who had no clue and that the only 1 i mistook

  • Digits by Satrina is the addon he's using to show his health and rage as %s. Pitbull has a built in incoming heals system in it, though I think almost any major Ace UF has the same system. The cooldowns above his health is just him adding another bar to his UI from Bartender and putting his CDs on them. I do the same thing with my healer. You can find his UI on Tankspot, though I believe it's a little different now from this post.

  • whats that addon for the portrait in the top left corner?

  • its was pretty annoyign when you had to go to mc to get tranq shot

  • ty for the vid... i had a bad time trying to kite the adds and our raid failed cuz of me :(

  • don't feel bad about it. its tough and relying on a single player is a bad thing but unfortunately, neccesary if you want to beat the enrage timer :/

  • name on this boss is Gluth, the name on the achivement for this quarter is called: Construct Quarter, and btw can someone come with a guide to kite with a DK? my mainis a DK and i have to kite the Zombies :/

  • I totally agree, my main is a feral druid, and I'm sick of the stupid skin he has in bear

  • How does he get the green/red numbers in the middle, can i get it for a pally?

  • frost mage is best for kiting the zombie chow

  • This was the most awsome attemt* ever :) great guide too, the first tankspot one i've seen, and the fast best one ive seen :D

  • correct rogues can now remove enrage effects with a poison

  • this talk make me hot! hehe IDK I'm tired don't worry about this.

  • I am not sure, but didn't some Glyphs give druids some new skins?

  • In the Beta yes, but they were removed sadly.

  • Epic lameness

  • Indeed :<

  • These guides are great, they have helped my guild alot!

  • this is construct quarter btw =P

  • Druids do need new skins... you know it's true when other classes are admitting it.

  • I think it's on its way? Has been talked about on the forums and such.

  • yeah its has

  • what is the addon that exstends ur chat window to give u more lines

  • The chat window can be extended by default - You just have to right click on the tab and unlock the window so you can move it around.

  • This is a fun fight if your kiters are experienced.

    What we did was we had both a tank rotation (Two heavy-duty Prot Pallies), and for kiting we had it switch up between a Ret Pally and an Unholy DK. A few seconds after the Decimate cooldown (he usually waits a few), our Hunters and Mages ran back quick to Frost Nova and Trap them for ensuing AoE madness. Didn't get a single zombie. :3

  • :3!!

  • lol. wtb new druid skins...

  • The best classes for kiting it in my opinion:

    Survival Hunter

    Ret Pally

    Dps Warrior with shield on

    a frost mage with good stam/pvp gear

  • had a frost mage kiting the adds, didn't go too well. we didn't have a hunter so that made it even worse, we couldn't stop the zombies being eaten in time so we failed, we're gonna try tommorow, hopefully we'll get him.

  • did u do him? ^-^

  • Rogues anesthetic poison can remove the small enrage,

  • For the love of God, don't be like my tank, say "He doesn't need an off-tank in 10 man" stack all 10 debuffs, pop LoH, and ask "Why didn't I get any heals?!"

    THE DEBUFF REDUCES YOUR HEALING TAKEN BY 10%, and it stacks 10 times! which means if ONE tank tries to tank, 100% of healing will be ignored. So... yeah, stressing that part... Just cause i got yelled at for not healing my tank after decimate when he had 10 debuffs.

  • What are you addons, espicially the chat one

  • I love your guides they are the most helpful and clear I've ever found. thank you sooo much I'm going to be tested by my bf's guild on the 25's tonight and I never even being on the 10's one =O but after countless hours of coffe and reading and your videos :) I'm so much more confident...thanks a lot, now if I fail is cause I'm a noob not cause u didn't help xD

  • about 4-5 stacks you can switch, and holy wrath (from a paladin) helps when the zombies run to gluth, they can stun them

  • Yes Cider rogues have Anesthetic poison which removes enrage effects from a target have the rogues in your raid (if you have no hunters) apply it to their off-hand so they can easily shiv and remove the enrage.

  • This is a minor hard boss, all you need to do is have a healer or ret pala kiting them, mage FN'ing, and hunter Frost Trap(?)ping, keep the pala alive and it's a piece o' cake.

  • We did this with only one Tank (me) and had a Druid Healer taunting him in Bear Form when I reached 10 Stacks of Mortal Wound to buy me some more seconds until it wears off.

    Worked pretty well, your Druid should not be a retard though.

  • easy encounter tbh. its just a real test for kiting classes (i think?)

  • After how many stacks should one taunt off his OT?

  • Traditional wisdom is 5 stacks and trade. I know a couple tanks that trade at on the 6th stack every time but they are the exception. I guess it kind of depends on what you think you can handle.

  • We did kiting with the OT, we putted out a frost trap and ran around it so he wudnt get hit, the switching was a bit tricky to do when you have to charge over the place to get the boss of the MT when he had 100% healing reduce, but we got him down in second try ;)

  • As a Unholy DK, I kited all the zombies along with an assisstance of a resto shaman healing me and using earthbind totem, I can pull them in from the front with Death Grip and use taunt, and also use Frost Presence for less damage and Unholy presence for a fast get-a-way

  • For kiting, we had 2.5 healers, me(resto sham) a holy priest and a balance druid. the druid and priest were healing, and i went to kite the adds with a frost mage. The kiting was really easy this way, we didnt get hit very much. I would just shock a add that comes, get him in earthbind range, and if i do get dazed by a hit, the frost mage freezes them in place when its up. It was really easy doing it this way. imo

  • If u wanna kite the adds best combination is mage/retridin/disci

  • Can someone tell me what addons he is using please?

  • search : 'ciderhelm ui', in Google.

  • Having trouble as a hunter on the adds.

    not on the actual kiting, but its hard to get and keep aggro compared to others, so had a warrior on adds, me droping random frost traps and shammy healer on earthbind

  • great video, it helped me a lot being an off tank :P

    BTW: i´ve been seeing this series of videos, but one question, which song is the one in the background?

    tnx in advance

  • He said this in another video:

    "It is a royalty-free track I purchased from NeoSounds. Do a search there for Savannah."

  • when we did it he ate quiet a few zombies and finally became enraged because he gained so much health but he didnt enrage for a full 60 seconds after he was able to

  • and dks can dispell haste effects..( blood talent btw)

  • yes rogues can dispell the enrage with Anesthetic Poison

  • Being a shammy I've found on this fight that earthbind totem and frost shock helps with the the zombies. When I was there for this fight our Pally was on zombies and apparently he wouldn't have been able to do it without me.

  • Great job on explaining, helped me understand it a lot better, and yes rogues can dispell the enrage now via Anaesthetic Poison :)

    i tend to place it on my mainhand(2.6 speed) and it tends to dispell the enrage effect before the animation of him growing is even finished.

  • a other gr8 vid, also looking at ur gear it that the gear from Polar's Easy Pre-Naxx Tank Gear List?

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