Punks & Skins Music (England 78-82)

[celticdeamon567]

Systemmfighter220 yeah, but you can't really share thee same mindset as a 'real skinhead' unless your from england, it means different.

[TheGuinnessboys]

dude!!! the skinhead movement originated in jamaica ..so therefore a skinhead cant be a racist! so stfu!!!

[Liekkek]

@TheGuinnessboys actually original skinheads are from england :) do some research before embarrassing yourself further hahahahaha :)

[TheGuinnessboys]

@Liekkek ok self righteous joe, look up SHARPS skinheads by miles8775 i know what im talking about

[Liekkek]

@TheGuinnessboys hahaha good one, good joke :) the first skinheads were from england, trust me i know many ;) they listened to jamaican ska and hung around with jamaican immigrants because they lived in the same areas as them due to being working class :) the first skinheads were from england, not jamaica :)

[TheGuinnessboys]

@Liekkek Damn it!! you win! fuck!

[Liekkek]

@TheGuinnessboys no my friend, today you learned a valuable truth, so we are both winners :)

[zmileyman]

and to cap it all... Dead Kennedys

[STDPunkBand]

BEER!!

[sinlord100]

Justin Bieber is not a skinhead! That's all I wanted to say...Thank You

[biailledji]

YOU CAN'T SAY "NOT ALL SKINHEADS ARE RACIST" YOU MUST SAY "SKINHEADS AIN'T RACIST"

[SKIZINGDRUG]

did she siad she liked THE FALL?

[mookie2637]

@SKIZINGDRUG Yes she did. And her comments at the end were absolutely right - a lot of the inventiveness was completely lost by 1979 or 80. Much punk and skins music by then was just badly played heavy metal tbh.

[0MangoButter0]

i love a nice british skinhead! mm

[RaverBabyJumpStlye88]

@0MangoButter0 hahahahahahaha ur class

[UltimateVenom]

public image, the fall, killing joke <3

[Liekkek]

Fuck SHARP, stay true :)

[subimeyouthBJJ]

@Liekkek well arent they basically the same

[Liekkek]

@subimeyouthBJJ nope, original skinheads werent sharp, sharp started in america so they arent real skinheads :) real skinheads are british :)

[systemfighter220]

@Liekkek Man, as a skinhead in America i can tell you, i follow the same values as traditional skinheads in Britain, Skinhead is a worldwide culture, the "real skinheads" are not only british, yes it's culture evolved out of Britain, and is probably more known in Britain than anywhere else, skinheads can be found anywhere in the world.

[Liekkek]

@systemfighter220 american skinheads are more tolerable than those ridiculous asian ones hahaha :)

[systemfighter220]

@Liekkek haha i actually like some asian Oi! bands, im glad its a culture in Malaysia and Japan, and china. plus they are usually traditional. (or RASH). political, better than boneheads though.

[howardbastard]

pisses me off when you get sharp skins preaching how skinheads were never racist! even tho , yea we probably did adapt most of the style from jamaicans and the music but I can guarentee if you were a white skinhead in 69/70 when all this began i bet you the white kids still took the piss out of the black kids! and paki bashing didnt start in the 80's it started 69/70 the years skinhead was born! so what im saying is it doesnt matter if your racist all of us skinheads should stick together!

[TheSaxon88]

@howardbastard not true about the style skinhead dress came from hard mod and poor white kids whos dads worked in factorys and wore steal toed boots blacks dressed like rudeboys not skinheads and not all skins listen to reggae

[howardbastard]

@TheSaxon88 listen first of all skinhead was born in england I am english! you are american and that is where you have gone wrong straight away. Asif you know more about this English born subculture when You live in america and it didnt get to you in america till the 80's? Therefore Me being english I know more than you about this , It's like me arguing with you about american history I might know some bits but you'd know more so why you being a complete prick telling me that I was wrong???

[TheSaxon88]

@howardbastard you might be right but i know skinheads that are english and were skinheads in early the early 70s.now were you are wrong is that skinheads were'nt here in america until the 80s there were skins in dallas tx and Los angeles Ca in the late 70s.i am english by race that makes me just as english as you

[Liekkek]

@howardbastard you are correct, but americans like to think they know everything because they are mongoloids. especially the ones who think that skinheads are from jamaica :'d

[subimeyouthBJJ]

@Liekkek fuck u, and i no there not from there, those were the rudeboys, which allot of them turned into skins any way, and dont judge america! the only thing you should judge is french people cuz theyre gay

[margdy]

SKREWDRIVER Poland:)we must win 14 words!

[SjokkoladeBolleMusa]

fuck, english is hard to understand xD

They talk so fucking weird xS

[juniorsgv88]

who gives a piss if's theres racist music. theres racist evrything in evryone



[sppots]

briliant



[JakeRedeye]

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[brettsir28]

Skrewdriver!

[SparkySharp69]

@brettsir28 Fuck Skrewdriver!!!!

[amixofeverything]

@SparkySharp69

I don't like Skrewdriver's racism...but their music isn't bad. There are some good racist bands out there...like Midgards Soner, Skrewdriver, and Kill Baby Kill! If you ignore the racist shit...the music isn't bad.

[xyTJxy]

@amixofeverything

skrewdriver did not start out as a racist band

[amixofeverything]

@xyTJxy

I know they didn't start out racist...but let's be honest...they put out most of their music as a racist band...and their best music was as a racist band.

[djalexak]

subtitulos!

[blumenthol]

Multicultural trash - Punk Trash - this is the best England can stand for today? Londinistan muslims and drunken clueless white punks. I don't know which is worse - punks or rag heads. Neither are Christian or strong. I'll clue you - Christianity and its values made England great - that and solidairirty and a distinct culturak isdentity - ALL of this is scrambled at best - most likely lost for ever.. England - after thousands of years - has fallen.

[SparkySharp69]

@blumenthol Right wing fascsit scum!!

[clashboy1977]

clash didnt sell out fuck right off.

they had the sight to break out and be even more experimental and different!

keep your power chords are repetitive shit!

[manijacica]

Zeljko, Vrana i jos neki likovi pocetkom '80- tih

[nilextrem]

lol

[sody2000]

Here's a 1995 post punk attempt.

[windrix1]

Brain BRAINS braaaains!

[iheartfingerboard]

nazi punks fuck off.

[OOZiTen]

lol

[IRISHWARRIORPUNK]

Sex pistols for me

[IgnacioPuroMTB]

G.B.H

[Boodwin]

Skrewdriver wasnt whitepower in the beginning. but htis video is def not from the late 70s early 80's

[theMelvinsRock]

Wow Killing Joke!

What about Joy Division

[whitetrashoutlaw]

There is more footage on youtube of the skinheads which will give better info on their political affiliations. Look up: London Skinheads 1980

[hudde95]

personaly i like the body snatchers, body snatchers? body snatchers? BODY SNATCHERS? haha

[kenmasters831]

@hudde95 boudy snatchehs

[offthericta]

@hudde95 ... yeah... I laughed at him too..... how many fucken times are ya gunna say that dickhead?

[hudde95]

@offthericta ? ..huh

[cfcterry1]

@hudde95

[kajo444]

0:31 nice look

[windrix1]

Punk guys are hoooooooooot, and cute.

[123plum1908]

Punk & Skins  united WINs

[easyskanin69]

yo wut documentary this from?

[chewbaccakiller]

lol start of 0:43 skinhead repeats everything that guy says lol!

[AntiFlagStef]

yeh haha

[collaps1]

Times long gone, when in a group of skinheads one guy would name Skrewdriver and another (Angelic) Upstarts as their faves - without trying to kill each other afterwards.

[DontHidePride]

dont forget, Skrewdriver were non political when they started out also. they might be referring to that era.

[420League]

0:25 GREGORY ISAAACS

FTW , reggae

[legomariotoast]

the punk with the small mohawk is poser

[taffyandy]

All punks are posers :)

[skinheadoriginal]

Nazis, RASH, antifa...you're all cunts, you ruined the scene! Fucking poofs.

[BOLSHEVIXTREME]

hey the nazis started it

we had to fight back somehow

[pierothefou]

antifa!

[skinhead5]

I would like to say that this Chavala thing you Brits have is no different with what we had in the 90's with the wiggers(that's what they called themselves).

[ANTIFASLOVENIJA]

rash 4 life

[bishop199115]

having a swastika is a fucking disgrace

[daniel1982]

You mom is a disgrace, goodie two shoes.

[bishop199115]

ahhh another your "mom" wanker .. typical..

[CashForGash]

It was for shock value, not because they necessarily believed in Nazi ideas or their actions.

Siouxsie Sioux said in an interview that back then, the British education system was so shit, that young kids, which is essentially what they were...had no clue what that symbol REALLY meant to people.

[scmthrasher]

the swastika is the symbol of the sun just becuase someone you dont like uses the symbol doesnt mean the symbol is disgraceful

[fifa3008]

sad to see that really no london youngsters have those accents anymore. only small pockets in bermondsey, east london,south east and to a certain extent south-west london.

[lmcafnxma]

the dude at 0:30 looks like tom thacker

[RYANMELIN13]

my uncles dere at 0:08

[MrSpiritof1969]

well, i had experience of both. A lot of skins were into black music. Equally a lot of the newer bone head skins at that time were not. But true fkng skins are !

[MrSpiritof1969]

intresting not one skin quotes original reggae or ska as favourite music.

[sbritt1994]

no shit reggae was influnced by african americans... those fucking skin head pigs didnt like black music

[casnernac]

not all skinheads are racist >.>

[offthericta]

@casnernac they all brutally ugly though

[fupoNRK666]

@casnernac

none skinhead is rascist

only bonehead cunts are rascist bastards

[joselitoelmaki]

@casnernac you are right! that people dont know anything like SHARPS or Red-Skins.Im spanish...

[SovietGuy101]

@casnernac i hate how these neo nazi twats ruined the skinheads, they were originaly ANTI nazi

[530fadedsmoke]

@SovietGuy101 and they still are man, true skinhead will never die

[SovietGuy101]

@530fadedsmoke but i u could get rid of the nazi ones, and get the skinheads who love ska and reggae, please do so cause i miss them

[Liekkek]

@SovietGuy101 nope

[KEVINAKAKEVO1]

@casnernac yeah neo nazis are racist and they aint skins, they look like skins, but they are just a bunch of racist bastards

[NSpromaniac]

@KEVINAKAKEVO1 How odd cause SHARPs look like skins but they're actually faggot pussies.

[fatboyeat]

@casnernac and you are correct bro..

[N3B0R3D]

@casnernac No real skineads are racist.

[juil6710]

@N3B0R3D bullshit!

[SLIM81100]

@casnernac I'M NOT RACIST, I LISTEN 2 REGGAE, HAVELOADS OF BLACK M8. I JUST HATE FREE LOADING ROMA GYPO M. F'S FROM EASTERN EUROPE.

[petrkrska]

@casnernac

You are idiot !!!! Skinheads never be a racist.

[topbluffa1]

@casnernac

no one was less racist back in the day.

[chewbaccakiller]

at least the said madness lol

[Gaudd]

I was a skinhead, hell by my hair I still am, who went down to London in 1982 full of Ska and Punk, and I can tell you without fear of contradiction that the Skinheads I met down there were to a man a shower of fascist, racist fckwits.

[stinkyfirm]

You self-loving bunch of so called 'politically-correct' people. You should know that skinheads like shown in the clip are people who really just don't give a fuck about politics at all. What you think how things were going back then? D'you think they were standing each night in front of the mirror wondering if they might be 'Nazis'? Fuck, no, they were out for some birds like, you know? Well, sorry, most of you just absolutely DON'T!! So the original black skins were all Nazis then, yeh' ?!

[Liekkek]

real skinheads arent strictly "anti racist" since they went out paki bashing with the blacks

[ManFromMelbourne]

I hate you inform you but Skrewdriver WAS racist back in those days. Ian Stuart was a member of the national front by 1979. This film`s from 1981. And these skins getting interviewd here know it too. The other band the skins mention that they like "White Boss" were another nazi band who were briefly around and played the first rock against communism gig back in 1978. So, in other words, these skins here getting interviewed ARE nazis.

[pimpskadaddy]

i don't know cos they said they liked Angelic Upstarts which was not a racist band and the other guy said bad manners which even buster of bad manners said he is anti-racist and yeah they did say skrewdriver & white boss but idk

[ThisYoungLibertine]

@pimpskadaddy bad manners were not antiracist at this time though..becuz allll that bs had just begun. And just cuz you liek a raicst band..doesnt mean thats all you like.

[stinkyfirm]

Great cuts,the ones with the skins are rare real footage,taken outside the famous Last Resort Shop in the East End of London.

Those kids were the real skinheads,and you know what?! If you haven't been around in that time, you just can't really know what it felt like.

Been hanging around the 'Last Resort' myself.

Sundays were great,they were all there. For those who've been there as well... that was happy days...!!!

[0350125]

u.k. sarbs, sid vishers, upstarts, white boss, bad mannuss, white boss, skrew-droivah, upstarts/skrewdrivah

[freazze123]

man i get pissed off when people think skinheads are nazis. fuck you!

[MOJAAZ]

OMG WHAT SHITHEADS IN THIS VIDEO!

[kingofthechode]

0.39 the guy just copies everything the other guy says

[cigpapers]

You know what I really hate?

White middle class lettuce leaves who take a White Working Class culture or organisation ( think Skinhead Gangs / Labour Party / Football terraces ) and change it to fit their multicultural over-educated anti British racist values.

Then they sit in their safe, smug all white suburb lecturing us on the joys of immigration and multiculturalism!

DO YOUR OWN THING YOU MIDDLE CLASS W*NKERS!

[CRUClO]

good post mate...spot on

[candoduck]

Harry fucking potter, what a cunt,

There coming for you BARBARA

[charliewhat]

so what all middle-class people are racist?

what are you saying think about your post....im middle class i vote labour too..mostly to keep the other guys out now but i digress

i went to university i live in a very multicultural area please don't tie me in with those daily mail reading fuck heads...

and what of the balck and asian middle classes?

as my mother says sweeping statements get you no where but trouble

[facebreaker82]

This must to be in the very early 80s if you pay attention to the skin they said "Skrewdriver","Upstarts" and so and no the typical Oi! that followed that bands like 4 Skins, Blitz or The Last Resort. The same for the punks, X Ray Spex, UK Subs, Penetration, and no the typical UK82 hardcore like The Exploited, GBH and others. BTW good video

[binky4647]

I love two tone sound aswell .

Moggy rip skin.

[binky4647]

Punk will make a big comeback in the next few years , its not the music or who was there and saw whatever.

Its about a rebel frame of mind too not be told what to do by anyone. To think for yourself basically.You dont need too copy others .

Kin ell

[emosux94]

i wasn't even listening.

i like their accent so i'm playing it like music

o.o

[CrimsonPhantom88]

What, they're talking about The Clash selling out? Hell, 1982 was their peak...they only got better with time, expanding from just being loud and angry to being more refined.

[zZoiks]

thats selling out.

[metalpm94]

punk not dead!

[ebonyandroses]

I've never met a neo-nazi skin. I've met racist skins who hate evjust everyone who isn't english but most are just into fashion & ska. I think they look dashing.

[GrottyWanker69]

If you are racist the your not a skin PERIOD.

[daveyRIR]

In the old days yer couldn't tell neo nazi skins from normal skins, now days it's just all fucked up, skinheads wi dodgey goatees and listening to metallica...they fucked tha scene up am glad i left it, though am tempted to get back into it...

[dariusgreeney]

that sounds like an excellent idea, clear and conscientious rational thinking is never out of vogue!

[JaySkaBoomUK]

i'm in a 2tone band sometimes guys turn up at gigs with swastika's tattooed on their chest and other places they seem like ok people until they take their shirts off and you just hate them can't skin a skin and a nazi the hypocrits

[DasKleineViech]

Did you ever thought about skins who are ex neo nazis? Some people can turn good you know?

[JaySkaBoomUK]

if you could "turn good" why get have a symbol with that kind of reputation inked into your skin for life.

[DasKleineViech]

Well, I have a swastika on my neck and a Wolfsangel on my right arm dated from the "good old times" and I don't really regret it. If you are really into something, you are willing to leave some symbols on your skin. Besides, it's not like I turned into a fucking commie or some left winged shit, I just don't care about politics now. I can hate black people as well as whites if they get on my nerves, the colour does not matter for me nowadays.

[Sohemian]

chick at 0:21 is cool.

[naxovidal19]

sid vicious

[kylebstiff]

-Let's mate, Mate

Moan! Moan! (as you bone! bone!)

[davedylan22]

and for the record, fuck skrewdriver.

[Gaudd]

Well said Dave, met Ian Stewart and Screwdriver when I was in London in 82. Racist bstarts... as much to do with Punk as the SPG.

[aporia82]

skrewdriver wasn't racist during those days...

[Sesquipedaliantique]

I don't think any of the punk bands truly were, names like Zyklon B were only for shock value. Same with wearing swastikas etc.

[aporia82]

that's true but skrewdriver turned out to be real nazi bastards in the end.

[Sesquipedaliantique]

It's a shame.

Ian Stuart was actually a friend of Suggs and Lemmy's at some point, I'd hate to see Madness and Motorhead get tarred with the same brush.

[davedylan22]

strange how people define selling out as losing the energy and yet the clash maintained more momentum throughout their career than possibly any band ever has..

[Sohemian]

Listen to Cut the Crap and say that.

I remember a real general contempt for the Clash in England in the early 80s. Especially post-Sandinista.

[Ulmeyda08]

Why the fuck doesn't anybody mention 'Rudimentary Peni'

[dalegts]

you've never seen black skinheads???

[ebonyandroses]

Lol one of them is black.

[OiDuty]

the skinhead culture burned from the ska music wich is black music

real skinheads were anti racist

[ninjarichi]

real skinheads are anti racist

[sherwoo92]

-Boots And Braces Anti-Racists

Oi! Oi!

[Leahrixxy]

0:39 He just repeated everything the other guy siad, haha. Like Madness though and The Specials

[niekolas]

nazi punks fuck off!

[RandyTheRebel]

卐

[feardom13]

How to hell do they listen to Upstarts and Bodysnachers when they also listen to Skrewdriver?

[oneokrock4ever]

well if u point is that skewdriver are rasist. skrewdriver where original skinhead music at start

[BOLSHEVIXTREME]

because during those years, Skrewdriver was still apolitical

they split up in 1982

following this, the band vocalist, Ian Stuart Donaldson, became a neo nazi and joined the National Front and the sinister terrorist organisation Combat 18

Ian then gathered a few of his neo Nazi 'comrades' and they formed a white power skinhead band and named it Skrewdriver, after his non political original band

the new Skrewdriver band eventually split for good after ian's car crash death in 1993

[feardom13]

Thanks for clearing that up for me, except who's White Boss?

[feardom13]

I see now, this was filmed just after the first Skrewdriver album, back when they were just punk.

[DominoEffect8993]

Skrewdriver started out as a Who cover band(good)

Then they became associated in the punk scene(good)

And finally Ian Stuart got mad at the lesser whites in England, joined the BNP and formed the racist Skrewdriver(bad)

[DarkSunshineRain]

Screwdriver was a fucking neo nazi band

[mcampbell89]

I agree, fuck screwdriver. In the beginning skinheadism had nothing to do with racism.

[oneokrock4ever]

skinhead have nothing to do with racism now either. they are boneheads?

[Axlhedfeild]

oh my fuckin god oh no ther a neo nazi band ther not punk they dont support my scene fuck you little bitch

[prostitute84]

oh my mistake its called rough cut and ready dubbed

[prostitute84]

rough punk and ready dubbed

they remade..well remasterd it and visted with all the kids and bands they interviewd in the old its actully real cool to see them all old and still punk

[1991slfdan1991]

the matey at 0:39 is the biggest poser ive ever seen ! listen to him hes just copying every thing his mate says , every word of it !

[theold2007]

was just about to comment on that, then i saw you did!

i think he just really wants to be mates with the blonde punk

[WojciechPosnania]

poseurs = XXI century.

[kissfanseries]

skins are fucking cunts !!!!!

[euskaldanak]

your a fucking cunt bitch!

[frenchielcfc]

why the fuck was i born in 1990 :(

[Cody2Xtreme]

Bro don't worry about it, I was born in '93. I know how you feel.