GOD BLESS YOU ALL.... AMERICAN. BRITISH, CANADIAN ALL WHO FOUGHT TO KEEP US FREE. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES. GOD BLESS ALL OF US WHO ARE FREE. MAY GOD KEEP IT THAT WAY. AMEN.
I think it's not black and white... the entire world was wrong with this war... some didn't even try to stop it, and others started it. It shouldn't have been there in the first place! God bless all who have helped put an end to the monstrosity that is manslaughter and may the ones who started it burn on hell for eternity!
As a current member of the Canadian Forces (currently in Afghanistan on a laptop) this video means alot to me...also my Great-Uncle fought in World War 1 (or was it world War 2? sorry i forget) so it means even more to me :) thnx Ausbruch :)
I think it has to be World War 2, since World War 1 ended in 1918 and I doubt your great-uncle lived back then, seeing the fact that he had to be born in 1900 at a minimum to serve in the army and the last year of the Great War.
I see here people saying that the Allies defended "freedom" then i ask you what freedom did you possibly defended, i am from Flanders and the war would have been better off with a German victory. A lot of my countrymen have died in those same fields with British Australians Canadians French and died for a country that isn't worth 1 drop of blood namely the Belgian government and the French.
After the war with a Allied victory our freedom was striped even more by the Belgian government.
I am going to spend 2 minutes of silence 11:00am november 11 this week, because i truly thank and respect those who fought to give us the lives we most have today.
the comments by the subscriber of this clip seem to focus on 11th November as being Veterans day in america and rememberance day for aus and canada. It was actually started in Britain as a memorial to all those that fought in nthe war ireespective of their nation as a parade of respect and rememberance to all those who fought. lived and died. We still to this day parade our troops through london on Rememberance Sunday in front of the queen to perpetuate this, do the USA do the same?
No we don't and is a Shame. This Guys Died defending the Freedoms we enjoy today. But I will rememmber this Soldiers I just got a 4 disc documentary on WW1 that I have watch 5 times already.and I will pass this on to my son who is 16 now so he also understand the sacrifice this Soldiers did for his freedoms today.
Germany never fully recovered from the defeat and neither did the rest of Europe of whom Germany is the economical powerhouse, and in deed this victory only led to a second horrific war.
Ok, firstoff, as to your "safe bet," I must say that I hope you did not place anything down with your buddies, 'cause than you will loose. And before you ask me fore details, I must say that I will not divulge them on a place like youtube. This is not because of you, by any means, but I have had enough "issues" with certain crowds over that issue enough without giving away details that would lead more to my door. Secondly, may I ask if you have?
Secondly, I find it quite ironic to see how you yell at me for presuming to have some idea of how the soldiers felt (which brings up another question, do you collect the diaries of soldiers form that war and others to read? Because I happen to), and than turning about face and proclaiming that most of them were apolitical. I'm sorry, but take look at the civilian populace and ask how many are apolitical! What did they do, only conscript the 10-20 million who had no beliefs? Go figure.
Also, you seem to rely on the stereotypical "Oh What a Lovely War" soldier, and group everybody into that. Yes, that description fits MANY of those who fought in WWI. However, you seem to not think that maybe, just maybe, some joined up because they actually were enthusiastic about fighting the enemies of their country, be it Germany, Turkey, Britan, France, Russia, etc. I have actually read some of what these men wrote, and their motives and attitudes are far more diverse than what you think.
As for your analysis of the motives and things that affected the soldiers, it is, like much of your writing, accurate, but usually only on a one-dimensional level. You seem to think that there was only type of soldier who served in WWI, and that every soldier who served in it had the exact same motives, beliefs, and ideals. You seem to not think that these were in fact human beings who often held different dreams, motivations, and nightmares, sometimes similar to eachother, sometimes not.
Also, it seems you did not even fully read what I wrote about the motivations down. I Did NOT only say that they were all motivated by loyalty to a government or nation. Specifically I mentioned self-interest/Self-Preservation, loyalty to a country/government/ideology, and loyalty to ones comrades. However, you act like I only listed the second one, and than rewrite what I put down for the last one like it was not even there! If you are going to oppose me, at least be honest enough to read!
Also, in regard to your dismissive comment in regards to the Officer Corp, I will say that that was not entirely undeserved, but still more than a little bit harsh. Case and Point: How would you go about break the WWI of (for example) the Germans in 1916? I am sincere when I say that I am interest in hearing your idea, and I promise that it is not a "Heads=I Win, Tails=You Loose." question.
Also, it seems to me you have a great disdain for the "facts", even though what you list are also facts in many parts of WWI. After all, what is history but a series of facts that are disputed and disagreed on?
Also, regardless of our disagreements, can we agree that the world would most likely have been worse off following a German victory in WWI?
As for your comment about the damage to Germany sparking WWII, I would have to maintain that that certainly played a role, but the primary cause to German hostility in Europe during the 1920's-1930's was the loss of the war, and seeming inability of much of the German population (of all its various stripes) to accept defeat and kick the militarism that drove it into WWI and WWII. This was a problem far before Hitler and his lot, but he was skilled enough to use it to become a threat.
However, I would have to say that a Europe-Centric analysis ignores a major part of war would lead to WWII: Japan. Japanese belligerence stretched back in the second half of the 19th century, and Japanese foreign policy and agendas were not altered much by WWI (save for some territorial gains against the Germans), and Japan was likely to try to achieve Hegemony in the Far East regardless of how Germany felt in the 20's and 30's.
Finally: Exit Question: If, as you hold, the vast majority of WWI soldiers were apolitical and did not want to be there, how do you explain the outbreaks of political violence in Germany, Bulgaria, and Poland., fueled largely by old soldiers who supported one ideology against another?
If it were the case that one of their primary concerns was ideology then why establish organizations like the VFW or MOTH with their posts and shellholes after the war; why did veterans not just attend political meetings? So much for your premises. I also object to your idea of "human agenda", there is no such thing. By saying this you prescribe universal motives to all humanity which is flawed in itself. A good deal of soldiers found motivation in the form of false pretense and conscription.
I find the last verse of the poem 'take up our quarrel with the foe' rather strange in a poem commemorating war dead. It is in effect saying - kill some more people because we can't.
i`d like 2 think that at the end of the day, speaking from a combat point of veiw, it means bascially, in a crude form of me explaining it, kill the men, who killed us
or basically, they were all soldiers, and those who live by the gun, can expect 2 die by the gun...
The poem was written upon a scrap of paper upon the back of Colonel Cosgrave, in the trenches, during a lull in the bombings on May 3, 1915, after he witnessed the death of his friend, Lieutenant Alexis Helmer, the day before. On January 28, 1918, while still commanding No 3 Canadian General Hospital (McGill) at Boulogne, McCrae died of pneumonia. He never saw the end of this war.
CDTMILLER, PonderingStudent, perhaps you should learn the history of WWI. The watered-down touchie-feelgood studies on the conflict today seem to completely miss how utterly incompatable German militarism was with even the imperfect Imperial Democracies of Western Europe. Germany killed millions in persuit of Imperial ambitions. Its Allies killed more. Many being civilians. Any German victory was only going to mean that the lives of those men spent were for nothing. McCrae understood that.
BastogneNuts, more importantly than any textbook or non textbook history of WWI is what actually happened. I don't think you quite get it. Step back from your facts and your politics of the period. Those meant nothing to the men in the trenches. The soldiers I'm sure didn't give two shits about the politics of the day, just when the war was going to end, if they will make it through the day, and when or even if they were going home. Sad fact is that millions did die for nothing tangible.
And I question if you fully get it. I find it hard to understand how the authoritarian regimes of Germany and its allies suddenly do no count, nor their frequent war crimes. The fact remains that, while there is a dire need to understand how the man on the ground in the trench or Russian forest felt, one must remember that it was the people in suits and uniforms behind a door standing over a map that would ultimately have decided what happens after the guns stop, as they did in real life.
Also, you seem to think that every soldier had nothing larger on his mind than mere survival. In many cases, this is not without merit, given the hell they faced. However, if the soldiers did not give two shits about politics, than pray tell how did things like the Bulgarian Thessalonika mutiny (motivated by pacificism and Social Democratic ideals) , and no less than TWO Russian revolutions happen (both having actively started in the military and spread to the civilian populace, not viceversa)
As with nearly all conflicts, the actions people took were primarily shaped by events that touched on three important parts of the human agenda in war: Loyalty to a leader/government/ideology, Self-Interest and Self-Preservation, and Loyalty to ones allies and friends. That is a gross simplification, but the fact remains that it was not merely ideology, or comraderie, or self-preservaton that drove the soldiers on in WWI. Also, if many were apolitical (as several doubtless were), more were not.
Also, while we MUST pay homage to the soldiers who fought and died in the hell of WWI, we must also know WTF the higherups were doing. The politics of the period are what dictated the waging of the war and the aftermath of it. As the Post-war Allied agenda was driven by a combination of idealism, Imperialism, realpolitik, desire for revenge, and other ideas, the CP agenda would have been driven by similar concerns, as well as militarism and desires for hegemony.
As Clausewitz said, "war is politics by other means." Thus, understanding politics is critical to understanding how and why things went the way they did. As for the claim of it achieving nothing substantiative, I am sure the distinct lack of a black-white-red tricolor dominating Europe from the Channel to Moscow (and all that came with that flag) for thirty years is something, as are the nations that escaped the Austrian yoke in 1918. Finally, Germany would never fully recover from the defeat.
I maintain that the vast majority were apolitical and many of those young men who weren't at first soon became dissilusioned with anything political. Don't pretend to know the motives of the common man. They were not primarily motivated by loyalty to a government, they were motivated by a loyalty to one another, self preservation, and a sense of duty, they had a job to do; wage war and meet the objectives their superiors set forth, (choosing not to carry out these duties was often deadly.)
It's simple really, poor young men who feel that they have no reason to kill other young men; forced into the military under less than favorable conditions disilussioned with patriotism finding nothing adventurous about war. Couple this dissolusionmenr with maltreatment by an outmoded, abusive and often incompetent officer core and a war fought, at least for the better part, through attrition.
The main agent at work here was not the desire to overthrow their government on account of bad policy,(most often DOMESTIC rather than FOREIGN), rather it was the poor condition of health food and life in general, poor leadership, low morale, and the fact that these young men didn't want to be there and didn't understand why they were killing other young men away from home where they wanted to be. You can read all the facts you want but you don't understand. Its a safe bet you haven't served.
Hard to beleive this happend i live into flanders(it's in belgium) i have been only 1 time to ieper,and it's really the time worth to visit the menenpoort,and those graves,I saw it already on vids and others,but when you go to it in real life,all those graves,whit the names,ranks and all other...
I can't explain it how i feel when i saw all those graves...
I hope only 1 thing,thate this never but really never gonna happen aigan.
Respect to you Belgium. I watched this with tears in my eyes.Both my Grandfathers were in the light infantry during WW1 and I have a Great Uncle I never met who appears on the Thiepval memorial.
Belgium you not only honour the dead but also remind the world of the horror of war.
Being a great grand daughter of A Great War veteran Capt. Allan D. Cameron and the grand daughter of Sarg. Donald Hugh Cameron. of the Royal flying corps and the Royal canadian Artillery. Thank you to all the veterans. Our country of Canad would not be what it is today without your sacrifices.
I've been to that arch in the video I think its in verdun. Every night they read a name from the wall and tell the mans story. It really hits you when those names become people rather than carving on a wall
These old men are hero's.. I remember sitting with my great uncle a WWI hero..and he would talk of the 1st world war and carsons army 36th Ulster Division.. then as he'd get near to talking about the Somme and the 1st July 1916.. he'd go quiet and the whole room and everyone in it would just Sit and watch this old man.. "Remember".. I'll never forget those sunday nights at supper time.
I feel sorry for that Harry Patch and all the veterans. They suffered so much during this war. Like Harry Patch stated, 3 out of 5 people were a casualty and 1 of the 3 died. Rest in Peace.
i have the original flanders feilds poem, all his other poems, diaries, journal entrys, maps he made, and letters to family. surprising eh. its because my great aunt was best friends with him growing up and he decided to send it to her. crazy eh. so now it was passed to my grama to my mom. i have a qaurter of the stuff. some letters diaries original copies of 3 of his poems including flanders and pics of him.
lol theres to much to be seen there is so many other poems like it that havnt been seen, letters, diaries, pictures, letters to family and my aunt and friends. a lot of stuff, news articals 2.
I know where youre coming from Darkknight, but our duty to those who have fallen is to make sure it does not come to that. Even Saddam Hussein maintained the graves of our dead from WWI who fought against the Ottoman Empire, and continued to do so right up until he was ousted.
Excellent and well made. Pity that these thick uneducated peasants like hotstuff1979 and spiffy64 keep popping up with stupid remarks about Nazis. Nazis weren't even thought of in the first world war , shows the level of intelligence of these prats I guess.
Hitler only reach the power and stayed in the power until War's end becaume so many people that supported hin. Sure that was ingenuaous soldier, as today there are too, or many others only making the job. But obain a order to kill women with babies, like some soldiers obainned... Disgusting, un-human action, at least.
yeah call all nazi fuck head first of all get a loud of your history the soldiers who fought in the battles weren't nazis they were doing there job the ss waffen did all the jew killing stupid fuckin americans and canadians im not nazi but im saying the truth
theres a song of this and a scottish bloke sings in and i cnt memba wot its called or nufin. pppplllzzzz dus any1 no wot it is and hu sings it. thnks.
Gerbilsqueex Europe suffered most in the war! So how can you call him an "idiot" America joined the Great war towards the end UK suffered the most so you should be grateful it was'nt you!!
While yes Remeberance Day is held in the U.K. (and all CommonWealth nations) John McCrae (if that's what you meant by "The guy") no he was Canadian. Great tribute, is one of the best I've seen.
Actualy...The poem In Flanders Feild was made by a dead soldiers friend who was sad about his friend dieng and he made a poem for his friend.
demonic41700 1 year ago
GOD BLESS YOU ALL.... AMERICAN. BRITISH, CANADIAN ALL WHO FOUGHT TO KEEP US FREE. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES. GOD BLESS ALL OF US WHO ARE FREE. MAY GOD KEEP IT THAT WAY. AMEN.
88mpny 1 year ago 2
Good luck lioncadet. Make it backsafely.
imthunderfang 1 year ago
@imthunderfang thnx im back now good to be back :)
lioncadet 1 year ago
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Lest we forget.
imthunderfang 1 year ago
As well to you lioncadet I truly hope you fare well on your journey. Dont hurt yourself out there!!! ;)
nixtunes1 1 year ago
I think it's not black and white... the entire world was wrong with this war... some didn't even try to stop it, and others started it. It shouldn't have been there in the first place! God bless all who have helped put an end to the monstrosity that is manslaughter and may the ones who started it burn on hell for eternity!
nixtunes1 1 year ago
As a current member of the Canadian Forces (currently in Afghanistan on a laptop) this video means alot to me...also my Great-Uncle fought in World War 1 (or was it world War 2? sorry i forget) so it means even more to me :) thnx Ausbruch :)
lioncadet 1 year ago
@lioncadet
I think it has to be World War 2, since World War 1 ended in 1918 and I doubt your great-uncle lived back then, seeing the fact that he had to be born in 1900 at a minimum to serve in the army and the last year of the Great War.
kriddie88 1 year ago
@kriddie88 lol true
lioncadet 1 year ago
What kind of a race of creatures are we? All these good men and
woman sacrificed their lives, their treasures for us.
Did Humanity learn anything? I think not. Hardly anyone remembers them anymore! We, the living, should
hang our heads in shame. Looking around myself at the condition of the World today,
it seems like everything these brave men and woman died for, is
worse. Good men and woman are still dying on battlefields.
Will we ever learn?
tailspin37 1 year ago 2
Devoidis just remember no matter what u think THOES MEN DIED FOR U so STFU!!
astelfox1 1 year ago
How ,is it possible for these to be in colour?
canuckleful 1 year ago
I see here people saying that the Allies defended "freedom" then i ask you what freedom did you possibly defended, i am from Flanders and the war would have been better off with a German victory. A lot of my countrymen have died in those same fields with British Australians Canadians French and died for a country that isn't worth 1 drop of blood namely the Belgian government and the French.
After the war with a Allied victory our freedom was striped even more by the Belgian government.
Devoidist 1 year ago
thank you for your support and love for he country. your determination is the key to pur world at peace. I CANT POSSIBLY THANK-YOU ENOUGH!
end the war....... and may the worl come at peace with no further lives lost.
avrilute 1 year ago
my grandfater went to world war2 and died 5 years ago
9851119 1 year ago
will think about it ppl if u joined the army
u will help the ppl that r in the middle of the war
who fighted and died
besides when u die u will be proud what u did
animecuteperson 2 years ago
i am doing this poem at school
willo420 2 years ago
I am going to spend 2 minutes of silence 11:00am november 11 this week, because i truly thank and respect those who fought to give us the lives we most have today.
MegaFredLuver 2 years ago
WE WILL REMEMBER THEM !
dustyndirk 2 years ago 5
yep my great grandad died there in 1917 1 of 54,000 so many....
MrBritestarr 2 years ago
My great great grandfather was there,,,but he died in the Afrika front..in Angola
SportingCPJV 2 years ago
the comments by the subscriber of this clip seem to focus on 11th November as being Veterans day in america and rememberance day for aus and canada. It was actually started in Britain as a memorial to all those that fought in nthe war ireespective of their nation as a parade of respect and rememberance to all those who fought. lived and died. We still to this day parade our troops through london on Rememberance Sunday in front of the queen to perpetuate this, do the USA do the same?
3239chris 2 years ago 7
No we don't and is a Shame. This Guys Died defending the Freedoms we enjoy today. But I will rememmber this Soldiers I just got a 4 disc documentary on WW1 that I have watch 5 times already.and I will pass this on to my son who is 16 now so he also understand the sacrifice this Soldiers did for his freedoms today.
carmelo1966 2 years ago 3
they died for freedom still we are slaves of the sociaty
glorydrunk 3 years ago 3
good video
way to go
remember those wo remembered us
AndrewLansens 3 years ago
so sad that all thies ppl died for us :(
italianboy300 3 years ago
the story teller
is that arnold schwarzenegger??
the story touching us and
whe made a song about Flanders Fields.
Hope to Post it soon
ZWARTxWIT 3 years ago
GOD BASS CANDA AND IT SOLERS
bigarmy12334343 3 years ago
Germany never fully recovered from the defeat and neither did the rest of Europe of whom Germany is the economical powerhouse, and in deed this victory only led to a second horrific war.
CDTMILLER 3 years ago
Ok, firstoff, as to your "safe bet," I must say that I hope you did not place anything down with your buddies, 'cause than you will loose. And before you ask me fore details, I must say that I will not divulge them on a place like youtube. This is not because of you, by any means, but I have had enough "issues" with certain crowds over that issue enough without giving away details that would lead more to my door. Secondly, may I ask if you have?
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
Secondly, I find it quite ironic to see how you yell at me for presuming to have some idea of how the soldiers felt (which brings up another question, do you collect the diaries of soldiers form that war and others to read? Because I happen to), and than turning about face and proclaiming that most of them were apolitical. I'm sorry, but take look at the civilian populace and ask how many are apolitical! What did they do, only conscript the 10-20 million who had no beliefs? Go figure.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
Also, you seem to rely on the stereotypical "Oh What a Lovely War" soldier, and group everybody into that. Yes, that description fits MANY of those who fought in WWI. However, you seem to not think that maybe, just maybe, some joined up because they actually were enthusiastic about fighting the enemies of their country, be it Germany, Turkey, Britan, France, Russia, etc. I have actually read some of what these men wrote, and their motives and attitudes are far more diverse than what you think.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
As for your analysis of the motives and things that affected the soldiers, it is, like much of your writing, accurate, but usually only on a one-dimensional level. You seem to think that there was only type of soldier who served in WWI, and that every soldier who served in it had the exact same motives, beliefs, and ideals. You seem to not think that these were in fact human beings who often held different dreams, motivations, and nightmares, sometimes similar to eachother, sometimes not.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
Also, it seems you did not even fully read what I wrote about the motivations down. I Did NOT only say that they were all motivated by loyalty to a government or nation. Specifically I mentioned self-interest/Self-Preservation, loyalty to a country/government/ideology, and loyalty to ones comrades. However, you act like I only listed the second one, and than rewrite what I put down for the last one like it was not even there! If you are going to oppose me, at least be honest enough to read!
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
Also, in regard to your dismissive comment in regards to the Officer Corp, I will say that that was not entirely undeserved, but still more than a little bit harsh. Case and Point: How would you go about break the WWI of (for example) the Germans in 1916? I am sincere when I say that I am interest in hearing your idea, and I promise that it is not a "Heads=I Win, Tails=You Loose." question.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
Also, it seems to me you have a great disdain for the "facts", even though what you list are also facts in many parts of WWI. After all, what is history but a series of facts that are disputed and disagreed on?
Also, regardless of our disagreements, can we agree that the world would most likely have been worse off following a German victory in WWI?
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
As for your comment about the damage to Germany sparking WWII, I would have to maintain that that certainly played a role, but the primary cause to German hostility in Europe during the 1920's-1930's was the loss of the war, and seeming inability of much of the German population (of all its various stripes) to accept defeat and kick the militarism that drove it into WWI and WWII. This was a problem far before Hitler and his lot, but he was skilled enough to use it to become a threat.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
However, I would have to say that a Europe-Centric analysis ignores a major part of war would lead to WWII: Japan. Japanese belligerence stretched back in the second half of the 19th century, and Japanese foreign policy and agendas were not altered much by WWI (save for some territorial gains against the Germans), and Japan was likely to try to achieve Hegemony in the Far East regardless of how Germany felt in the 20's and 30's.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
Finally: Exit Question: If, as you hold, the vast majority of WWI soldiers were apolitical and did not want to be there, how do you explain the outbreaks of political violence in Germany, Bulgaria, and Poland., fueled largely by old soldiers who supported one ideology against another?
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
Why are americans allways so stupid
deutsa 3 years ago 2
If it were the case that one of their primary concerns was ideology then why establish organizations like the VFW or MOTH with their posts and shellholes after the war; why did veterans not just attend political meetings? So much for your premises. I also object to your idea of "human agenda", there is no such thing. By saying this you prescribe universal motives to all humanity which is flawed in itself. A good deal of soldiers found motivation in the form of false pretense and conscription.
CDTMILLER 3 years ago
Many many veterans are already dead now but we Belgians never forget them.
I always think of you lads when I passes the graves in Ieper, Langemark and many more.
jeanreno71 3 years ago
awful this war thing
interloperftv 3 years ago
I find the last verse of the poem 'take up our quarrel with the foe' rather strange in a poem commemorating war dead. It is in effect saying - kill some more people because we can't.
PonderingStudent 3 years ago
i`d like 2 think that at the end of the day, speaking from a combat point of veiw, it means bascially, in a crude form of me explaining it, kill the men, who killed us
or basically, they were all soldiers, and those who live by the gun, can expect 2 die by the gun...
ryantomlinraf 3 years ago
The poem was written upon a scrap of paper upon the back of Colonel Cosgrave, in the trenches, during a lull in the bombings on May 3, 1915, after he witnessed the death of his friend, Lieutenant Alexis Helmer, the day before. On January 28, 1918, while still commanding No 3 Canadian General Hospital (McGill) at Boulogne, McCrae died of pneumonia. He never saw the end of this war.
ThibetanMonk 3 years ago
it was written during the war. you needn't take it literally either.
CDTMILLER 3 years ago
CDTMILLER, PonderingStudent, perhaps you should learn the history of WWI. The watered-down touchie-feelgood studies on the conflict today seem to completely miss how utterly incompatable German militarism was with even the imperfect Imperial Democracies of Western Europe. Germany killed millions in persuit of Imperial ambitions. Its Allies killed more. Many being civilians. Any German victory was only going to mean that the lives of those men spent were for nothing. McCrae understood that.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
BastogneNuts, more importantly than any textbook or non textbook history of WWI is what actually happened. I don't think you quite get it. Step back from your facts and your politics of the period. Those meant nothing to the men in the trenches. The soldiers I'm sure didn't give two shits about the politics of the day, just when the war was going to end, if they will make it through the day, and when or even if they were going home. Sad fact is that millions did die for nothing tangible.
CDTMILLER 3 years ago
And I question if you fully get it. I find it hard to understand how the authoritarian regimes of Germany and its allies suddenly do no count, nor their frequent war crimes. The fact remains that, while there is a dire need to understand how the man on the ground in the trench or Russian forest felt, one must remember that it was the people in suits and uniforms behind a door standing over a map that would ultimately have decided what happens after the guns stop, as they did in real life.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
Also, you seem to think that every soldier had nothing larger on his mind than mere survival. In many cases, this is not without merit, given the hell they faced. However, if the soldiers did not give two shits about politics, than pray tell how did things like the Bulgarian Thessalonika mutiny (motivated by pacificism and Social Democratic ideals) , and no less than TWO Russian revolutions happen (both having actively started in the military and spread to the civilian populace, not viceversa)
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
As with nearly all conflicts, the actions people took were primarily shaped by events that touched on three important parts of the human agenda in war: Loyalty to a leader/government/ideology, Self-Interest and Self-Preservation, and Loyalty to ones allies and friends. That is a gross simplification, but the fact remains that it was not merely ideology, or comraderie, or self-preservaton that drove the soldiers on in WWI. Also, if many were apolitical (as several doubtless were), more were not.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
Also, while we MUST pay homage to the soldiers who fought and died in the hell of WWI, we must also know WTF the higherups were doing. The politics of the period are what dictated the waging of the war and the aftermath of it. As the Post-war Allied agenda was driven by a combination of idealism, Imperialism, realpolitik, desire for revenge, and other ideas, the CP agenda would have been driven by similar concerns, as well as militarism and desires for hegemony.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
As Clausewitz said, "war is politics by other means." Thus, understanding politics is critical to understanding how and why things went the way they did. As for the claim of it achieving nothing substantiative, I am sure the distinct lack of a black-white-red tricolor dominating Europe from the Channel to Moscow (and all that came with that flag) for thirty years is something, as are the nations that escaped the Austrian yoke in 1918. Finally, Germany would never fully recover from the defeat.
BastogneNuts 3 years ago
I maintain that the vast majority were apolitical and many of those young men who weren't at first soon became dissilusioned with anything political. Don't pretend to know the motives of the common man. They were not primarily motivated by loyalty to a government, they were motivated by a loyalty to one another, self preservation, and a sense of duty, they had a job to do; wage war and meet the objectives their superiors set forth, (choosing not to carry out these duties was often deadly.)
CDTMILLER 3 years ago
It's simple really, poor young men who feel that they have no reason to kill other young men; forced into the military under less than favorable conditions disilussioned with patriotism finding nothing adventurous about war. Couple this dissolusionmenr with maltreatment by an outmoded, abusive and often incompetent officer core and a war fought, at least for the better part, through attrition.
CDTMILLER 3 years ago
The main agent at work here was not the desire to overthrow their government on account of bad policy,(most often DOMESTIC rather than FOREIGN), rather it was the poor condition of health food and life in general, poor leadership, low morale, and the fact that these young men didn't want to be there and didn't understand why they were killing other young men away from home where they wanted to be. You can read all the facts you want but you don't understand. Its a safe bet you haven't served.
CDTMILLER 3 years ago
When you go home, tell them of us
And say
That for your tomorrow, we gave our today
They suffered all
Sacrificed all
Dared all
and died
oddball1711 4 years ago 3
WWI was supposed to be "the war to end all wars"....but that wasnt the case. My respect to all that served then and thoses that serve now
BF2SFPLAYER 4 years ago 3
My paternal GF was a regular in the Dorset Light Infantry. God rest your soul Grandad.
My maternal GF was a Corporal in the Somerset Light Infantry. God rest your soul Grandad.
RESPECT
zigimar 4 years ago 2
Hard to beleive this happend i live into flanders(it's in belgium) i have been only 1 time to ieper,and it's really the time worth to visit the menenpoort,and those graves,I saw it already on vids and others,but when you go to it in real life,all those graves,whit the names,ranks and all other...
I can't explain it how i feel when i saw all those graves...
I hope only 1 thing,thate this never but really never gonna happen aigan.
denjaaps 4 years ago
Respect to you Belgium. I watched this with tears in my eyes.Both my Grandfathers were in the light infantry during WW1 and I have a Great Uncle I never met who appears on the Thiepval memorial.
Belgium you not only honour the dead but also remind the world of the horror of war.
Respect
zigimar 4 years ago
Hello, does anyone know how I can get in contact with WWII veterans? I have so many questions i would like to ask!
Thank you
krzholland 4 years ago
Try Seniors homes. There aren't many left sadly.
crazenate 4 years ago
Yes there s one or two left in the Veterans Hospital in London.Redcoaters.
Watch BBC 11th november always at 1100 hrs
ypreschieftain 4 years ago
Very poigniant vid, i liked the way that you didn't just use soldiers from one nation. They all fought.
sharpefan14 4 years ago
I LIKE YOUR VID.
QQRRXX23 4 years ago
'3,4, and 5 were killed. All I remember are their nicknames' War is Horrible(An understatement at best).
I was silent for the whole duration. Paying my respect to those who were slaughtered. In all wars.
IForgottenHopeI 4 years ago
CAn you believe Harry Patch is the last remaining veteran of trench war fare? Imagine being the last!
surreypuma 4 years ago
Being a great grand daughter of A Great War veteran Capt. Allan D. Cameron and the grand daughter of Sarg. Donald Hugh Cameron. of the Royal flying corps and the Royal canadian Artillery. Thank you to all the veterans. Our country of Canad would not be what it is today without your sacrifices.
stefansmom 4 years ago
Onya Dig.
gronkitis 4 years ago
i have that program recorded on the telly and it is a good program
blairell 4 years ago
people must learn from the past the war now would not have been if they all new
riflelord2 4 years ago
Thank You Vets...God Bless you all
steppnwolf 4 years ago
I've been to that arch in the video I think its in verdun. Every night they read a name from the wall and tell the mans story. It really hits you when those names become people rather than carving on a wall
workingclassbum 4 years ago
These old men are hero's.. I remember sitting with my great uncle a WWI hero..and he would talk of the 1st world war and carsons army 36th Ulster Division.. then as he'd get near to talking about the Somme and the 1st July 1916.. he'd go quiet and the whole room and everyone in it would just Sit and watch this old man.. "Remember".. I'll never forget those sunday nights at supper time.
taysidedrummer 4 years ago
Nice video.
FSNOBREGA 4 years ago
Harry Patch is the last veteran who fought in the Trenches.
IForgottenHopeI 4 years ago
I feel sorry for that Harry Patch and all the veterans. They suffered so much during this war. Like Harry Patch stated, 3 out of 5 people were a casualty and 1 of the 3 died. Rest in Peace.
IForgottenHopeI 4 years ago
i have the original flanders feilds poem, all his other poems, diaries, journal entrys, maps he made, and letters to family. surprising eh. its because my great aunt was best friends with him growing up and he decided to send it to her. crazy eh. so now it was passed to my grama to my mom. i have a qaurter of the stuff. some letters diaries original copies of 3 of his poems including flanders and pics of him.
mikesdjftr 4 years ago
That's amazing, it's a keeper. Framed and ought to be seen.
Ausbruch 4 years ago
lol theres to much to be seen there is so many other poems like it that havnt been seen, letters, diaries, pictures, letters to family and my aunt and friends. a lot of stuff, news articals 2.
mikesdjftr 4 years ago
less we forget the great war. but where watching the opening round of 3rd greatwar now
Darkknight7853 5 years ago
I know where youre coming from Darkknight, but our duty to those who have fallen is to make sure it does not come to that. Even Saddam Hussein maintained the graves of our dead from WWI who fought against the Ottoman Empire, and continued to do so right up until he was ousted.
velapulsar 5 years ago
Einstein said once something like: I'don't know exactly how will be the 3rd World War, but I know how will be the 4rd, with stones and sticks.
jerryaltman 4 years ago
Excellent and well made. Pity that these thick uneducated peasants like hotstuff1979 and spiffy64 keep popping up with stupid remarks about Nazis. Nazis weren't even thought of in the first world war , shows the level of intelligence of these prats I guess.
bodge666 5 years ago
ok its not the nazi soldiers fault they were just doing wat they were told to its wa hitlers whos the asshole here
jonser1 5 years ago
Hitler only reach the power and stayed in the power until War's end becaume so many people that supported hin. Sure that was ingenuaous soldier, as today there are too, or many others only making the job. But obain a order to kill women with babies, like some soldiers obainned... Disgusting, un-human action, at least.
jerryaltman 4 years ago
Harry Patch and all others RIP, lest we forget
fergiewergie 5 years ago
yeah call all nazi fuck head first of all get a loud of your history the soldiers who fought in the battles weren't nazis they were doing there job the ss waffen did all the jew killing stupid fuckin americans and canadians im not nazi but im saying the truth
Reaper18700 5 years ago
fuck all nazi's, all nazi's go to hell
hotstuff1979 5 years ago
theres a song of this and a scottish bloke sings in and i cnt memba wot its called or nufin. pppplllzzzz dus any1 no wot it is and hu sings it. thnks.
matt
spliffy64 5 years ago
Gerbilsqueex Europe suffered most in the war! So how can you call him an "idiot" America joined the Great war towards the end UK suffered the most so you should be grateful it was'nt you!!
Llaner 5 years ago
in this field the european youth go die
KarabinerM1898kurz 5 years ago
beautiful tribute. doesn't describe the horror fully. Nothing can. Hope we never find out. Well done!
mauman 5 years ago
While yes Remeberance Day is held in the U.K. (and all CommonWealth nations) John McCrae (if that's what you meant by "The guy") no he was Canadian. Great tribute, is one of the best I've seen.
Tzar1400 5 years ago
The guy is From the Uk you idiot.
Its our rememberance day as well.
gerbilsqueex 5 years ago
Read what I wrote beside the video please. :)
Ausbruch 5 years ago
"November 11th is Veterans' Day (U.S) and Remembrance Day (AU, CAN)."
aye, united states, canada and australia.
gerbilsqueex 5 years ago
@gerbilsqueex ...no...he is from Guelph Ontario, Canada.
John MacCrae
honkytonksue59 1 year ago
@gerbilsqueex ...no...he is from Guelph Ontario, Canada.
honkytonksue59 1 year ago
Excellent.
inspectorjury 5 years ago
beautiful, moving tribute, we shall never forget them
euanblake 5 years ago