Basically the pro-choice argument is The fetus isn't a person,but even if it were it doesn't matter because the woman's right to control her body is more important than the fetus's right to exist. The pro-life argument is that abortion is immoral and promotes immoral behavior BUT even if it doesn't the unborn babie's RIGHT to exist temporarily outweighs the woman's right to absolute control of her body. So far I find the pro-life argument more compelling, But I'm still somewhat open minded.
They are growing developing babies and for you to go against nature is wrong, so just shut the fuck up. Guess what stupid bitch, Planned Parenthood had it's worst year ever last year and we will continue to bring them down for the sake of the unborn. Stupid women can go get "back alley abortions" if they want, but abortion is murder and it will be outlawed just as slavery has been outlawed. It's not only Christians who want it outlawed, you uneducated fool. Now go get some dignity and a makover.
Listen you sadistic clown. First of all, do you expect people to take you seriously looking like a flat out retard? Get some dignity please. Second, no one gives a damn what you think. Abortion for convinience is wrong and that's all there is to it, there is nothing you can change about the pro-life movement. Late term abortions are illegal now, we are squashing Planned Parenhood. It's not a "Clump of Cells", that comment proves you are not educated. It's a clump of cells but they are human cell
@Elikam82 first of all you sound like a retarded prick, second of all what about pill abortions? all you prolife fags forget about that and focus on dead fetuses. i support both, and this woman has more brains than you ever will have fun in hell oh nvm that doesnt even exist:)
@KasaiKendia because i always hear these prolife people talk about dead fetuses and late term abortions. they never really talk about the pill form which can be taken up to 9 weeks after you get pregnant. i honestly dont care. im never having kids anyway and im on birthcontrol because i dont want to get pregnant. if i accidently did get pregnant id get an abortion. do know how hard it is to take care of a baby? its expensive too. i have a 2 year old sister so i definitely know.
@msladysaurus Yea I know how hard it is, I've helped take care of babies and young children since I was a little kid, so yea I know. Well congrats on being on the pill, that's good for you. I take nothing and if I got pregnant, I'd keep the baby and I just turned 18 and still in high school, but that's just me. The pill form you're talking about still kills the baby so it's really no different, just more convenient.
@Sueezee1, I thoroughly enjoy reading what you write, it makes me feel sane and like not everyone is a simple-minded religious blowhard who wants to restrict the choices of women.
@Jazabelle85 What about those people who don't believe in anything but still feel abortion is wrong, or at least the unnecessary ones. What do you call those people, because it seems anyone who beliefs in a higher power are just idiotic religious people who don't know anything. So I just wanna know what'd you call a person who is atheist and still is pro-life.
Okay it seems a consistent thought that you can "KILL" the little life in the womb to "SAVE" it from a troubled life. Aside from the blatant logical contravention between the two ideas, moving on!
Not like a toddler? (In the certainty of time it will be. TODDLER only denotes a stage of human development. FETUS: simply a small and growing human being)
"GENERALLY, it is a clump of cells" (So... why the grief in coming to the decision to abort? generally, you're ONLY aborting a clump of cells)
I agreed with pretty much everything you said. Before I saw this vid I wondering if I should feel bad about being pro-choice because of religious reasons. Now I don't feel bad anymore, we should be allowed choices as humans. Thank you :)
@XGoodies says: wondering if I should feel bad about being pro-choice because of religious reasons.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Nowhere in the bible does it say abortion is a sin, as matter of fact, abortion was used (in bible) to punish a women who was pregnant by a man other than her husband.
A foetus is not a human until it is born - Has a foetus ever picked up a weapon and murdered a Human??? Humans do decide who lives and dies. You could say a tumor or cancer is a life... its okay to kill a cancer but its not okay to kill embryonic cells/foetus. It makes you a hyprocrite if you believe a cancers life is not important, I mean it is a life isn't it????
People should just mind their own damn business when it comes to abortion. If you don't like or agree with abortion DONT GET ONE! Abortion will be around forever Get Over It
@ekajeht That is a bad analogy. - That was Genocide having an abortion is not Genocide. When it comes to womans reproductive rights men like you should mind your own business... as well as woman who try to control another womans reproductive rights. I don't really care to talk to you... You are boring and just copy what I say and make stupid analogies. Abortion will always be an choice and a right for women.
@ekajeht I have never watched phoinexRayneweaver you have never busted me on a lie... from what I have read you have me confused with sueezee. You are dumb! Get a Life and yes you are very boring I know women must fake their orgasms with you
@Demon666Chick says=" I have never watched (RE:Why I'm Pro Choice) by PhoniexRayneweaver "
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Well you should try watching it sometime ....SEEING AS YOU COMMENTED ON IT OVER AND OVER until I busted you as a liar and also for you using more than one sign in name.
@ekajeht I looked on the video you mentioned and I didn't write a comment on that video. I have never watched that video or commented on it though I saw that you were having an arguement with suezzee and I think you have me confused with her or you are just nuts. I never commented on that video if anyone is lying it is you. So get a life buddy go jack off or invent more stupid analogies =)
@ekajeht Next time you need to check yourself before you reck yourself. I don't think you need to keep an eye on me im not a creepy next door neighbor. Our views are different but we can agree to disagree.
you can be pro life all you want but you have NO right to decide over someone else's body and neither do i you also have no right to pry into other peoples life to tell them what they should do
look being cruel to people is not going to make them side with you no matter what you believe im pro choice and no amount of mean selfish words are going to make me think otherwise so kindly keep all of your abuse to yourself i don't need stupid people emailing me and giving me death threats (kind of ironic from pro lifers don't you think?)
@azariablack A bit, but considering your side does the same thing, then whatever. Some people don't know how to debate w/o getting all crazy. I keep it simple. Abortion is wrong. The end.
@azariablack No I mean what I said, don't go changing around what I said. It's wrong because someone is killing an innocent life. Last time I checked, killing something innocent is wrong and messed up.
@KasaiKendia you know what's messed up ? making someone carry a child and making them give birth to it just because you think they should this world is already over populated as it is by stupid people giving birth to kids they dont even want usually unwanted kids that are abused by those who were supposed to love and care for them do you really want another child to go through that because pro lifers are so stubborn
@azariablack Well maybe if, oh I don't know, people would calm down their sex drive, then there'd be less pregnancies, therefore, less unwanted children and less abortions. And don't act as though pro-lifers are the only stubborn ones, pro-choicers are stubborn too.
@KasaiKendia do you really think that people are going to do what ever you say ? sorry to say but people will continue to sleep with eachother whether you or i like it or not
@azariablack No duh, I can't even make my little sister listen to me. I'm not trying to force people to listen, that would use too much energy. If a person wants to listen and agree, great. If they don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. I'm not the one killing a baby afterall.
@KasaiKendia firstly grow up no one says duh anymore this isn't the nineties seriously what are you ten ? and secondly of all it's not a baby it's a fetus and thirdly do you really think replying to all of us is really going to change our minds in anyway ?
@azariablack I can say "duh" if I please, I'll stop saying it when you stop calling me names, which is also what ten year olds do, so I guess we're both little children. A fetus turns into a baby if the pregnancy goes on and I never said I was going to change your mind, did I ever say that at all? No, I didn't. I'm simply expressing my views about the subject, just as you are.
@KasaiKendia if you can say what ever you like i can do the same if you have a problem with it don't bother responding to me it's simple. just because you get you're underpants in a bunch and respond to everyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't mean any of us give a damn you just seem like another one of those right wing nut jobs or are you just trolling
@azariablack I'm not a nut job and I'm not trolling. It's not you I have a problem with, I don't even know you. It's the poor choice of words you use, calling me names and making rude comments like you're arguing on the playgrounds in elementary school. That's all.
im proud to be pro choice the religious bigots can think what ever they like but they are not the ones raising all the unwanted children in this world and they are not the ones paying for their health care or schooling either.forcing a woman to have a child she doesn't want is just punishing her you can say that she should of kept her legs close but what about the man who got her pregnant what does he get off scott free? why is it always supposed to be the woman's fault?
@Demon666Chick im glad someone agrees with me.i just don't think that its fair for the so called religious right to blame everything on women after all she didn't make herself pregnant yet they want to assume that it's all her fault for the position she is in and do they really think being cruel to women is going to make us side with them anyway ? every story is different and its wrong to take away people's choices just because they do not agree with them
@azariablack Most of the time, the sex is consensual. Tru, it takes two, but the man can walk away, the woman, sadly can't. But those are the consequences to the choices we make in life. Wah wah wah, oh well. It's the easy way out and really sad. I think people would be a whole lot careful if abortion was illegal.
@KasaiKendia if you are trying to make a valid point you are sadly failing. the truth is pro lifers see everything as it is supposed to be so black and white people do evil things to each other like rape and incest do you choose to ignore those facts just because you are so biased?do you really think that the women who choose to have abortions haven't thought about it over and over again?
@azariablack Nope, infact I know what it's like to be violated by a grown man. I know some women think things through in their head, that's obvious, but that doesn't mean that they're anymore right than the girls who just get it done. The result is still the same, a fetus/baby killed. I do see some of yall points, but I'll never agre with them. Only time abortion is even close to okay, is if the mother will die no matter what or if the baby has 0% survival, but those are both slim chances.
@KasaiKendia yall i take it you are american right?well i think that it's the woman's right to choose what she does with her body i dont think that any government or any religious nut job has the right to tell her what she can and cannot do to her body she is the one who had to carry it and give birth to it not them.if you don't agree with abortion then don't have one it's simple but people will still get one reguardless of what pro lifers think
@azariablack No duh, really? See this whole time I thought the man carries the baby. I know it's the woman who carries the baby, and of course I would never have an abortion, they're so messed up.
@KasaiKendia oh how funny sarcasm oh my how big of you.if you don't want an abortion then don't get one but don't think for one second that you have the right to tell people what they can and can't do because let's face people are not going to listen to you or to me it's their decision not yours and not mine.go ahead continue to have a go at me i enjoy it
@azariablack It gets tiring to be the big person, so I decided to just be sarcastic. I'm not trying to have a go at you, don't think of yourself so highly. I express how I feel, you reply, then I reply. Simple as that. I can think as I please, just like you can. Abortion will always be wrong, so it doesn't matter if people listen or not.
@KasaiKendia i take it you are one of those right wing morons who think that it's my way or the high way right and no abortion isn't always wrong shaming people for making a difficult decision is wrong take it from someone who has seen what shaming and belittling people does
@azariablack I'm not a nut or a moron and no, I don't think it's my way or the high way, I try to understand other people's points of views most of the time, but there are some things that I have to stand firm on. I know what belittling people does and it aint good, but I'm not doing that and if abortion isn't wrong, then the people who do it, shouldn't feel any shame at all, no matter what anyone says or does.
@KasaiKendia if you are trying to understand where people are coming from then why the hell are you saying all abortion is wrong i don't know whether you are blind ignorant or just to young to understand what life is really like
@azariablack Just because I understand, doesn't mean I agree. I'm neither ignorant nor too young to understand life. I understand how hard life can be and that sometimes tough decisions have to be made. I may be young, but I understand a lot more than you older people think.
@KasaiKendia it's funny that all the younger people think they understand everything but in reality they don't know squat. you nor i have been through the hell other people have been through but it's so easy to judge isn't it
@azariablack The hell you guys keep talking about is being raped and about life being hard. Um I'm sorry, did you see my childhood? Were you there when that grown man would have me touch his privates or when I had a grown man kissing me and touching me? No? I didn't think you were, quit acting as if my life is just perfect and that I think life is all rainbows and unicorns, quite the opposite. Life sucks when you aren't rich and every once in a while, we have good experiences.
@azariablack The only thing I can't identify with adults is paying bills and having children. That's it. Anything else you wanna tell me about myself? I mean since you seem to know.
@KasaiKendia look i in no way know everything i have never said i do but my point is that you never know what someone goes through in their life unless you have been there yourself it's quite easy to say that you would or wouldn't do something when you haven't been in certain situations
@azariablack No, I know what I would do because I know myself. Considering I've been raped, I can say what I would do in that situation. Considering I dnt have a lot of money, I can say what I'd do in that situation.
@KasaiKendia but what if you got pregnant during that horrific ordeal? can't you understand that no woman wants to carry their rapists child ? so why should she he already cruelly attacked her why should she be defiled and punished again
@azariablack I didn't get pregnant when it happened to me bcus I was just a kid and he was an old man so Idk if his swimmers were working anymore. But, getting pregnant by him now would be devastating, but I wouldn't kill my baby. That's just giving him more power over me, why should I terminate somethin so beautiful just bcus of wht he did? Tht's how I see it. Abortion is only right when it's a medical emergency n there jst isn't any other way around it.
@KasaiKendia do you know what it's like to live knowing that you were the product of someone's rape ? do you know how hard it is to find out something like that do you realize the self hatred you will always have because you know what was done to your mother ? believe me i wouldn't wish that on anyone because it's one of the worst thing's you will ever have to live with.what's you're opinion on serverly disabled children do you think that it's right to abort them to save them pain
@azariablack No, I'm not the result of a rape. But my father still doesn't love me or care for me which hurts just as much. I dnt know the love of a father either and he is disrespectful to my mother, so I almost knw the feeling. Not all rape children wanna die or regret being born, and what about babies born from consensual sex, what's your excuse for that? As for the disabled kids, I know some and they're very happy. Only some of the kids you're talking about are miserable.
@KasaiKendia how do you know how every child of rape feels ? do you realize how many people actually want to die and how many people wish they were never born ? and what about children with very severe health conditions that will sadly limit their life do you think that a child should have to suffer and die just because someone wants to take the mother right away to an abortion is that fair on any child ? the worlds full of miserable people barely surviving
@azariablack Never said I knew how every rape child feels and yes I know there are alot of people who dnt want to live, but obviously they want to live enough not to kill themselves. As for the children with severe health conditions, you can't usually tell until they're born. I'm not naive, i know there are millions of people surviving, but last time I checked, we were all just human, since when should we get to decide who lives and who dies.
@KasaiKendia AFP (alpha-fetoprotein) is a protein which is made by all fetuses. AFP can be measured in the mother's blood. The AFP screening test identifies women who may be further along, or not as far along, in their pregnancy as they thought.The test can also identify women who are carrying a fetus with a neural tube defect, or other severe birth defects such as a kidney or abdominal wall defect. As you can see a fetus can be checked for problems... YOU are a bit NAIVE.
@Demon666Chick Not really but okay. Even if there is a test for this or whatever, it still doesn't make abortion okay. The tests that are done on a fetus are never 100%, only thing that is 100% is whether the baby is a boy or girl. The tests are just possibilities of what the fetus can be born with and like I said to azaria, last time I checked we were all human. Who are we to decide who lives and who dies. It's a bit arrogant.
@KasaiKendia What abnormalities do ultrasound scanners pick up?
Ultrasound will pick up around 70 per cent of serious abnormalities of the foetus - about one in 50 unborn foetus have severe problems. These include hydrocephalus, spina bifida, short limbs, dwarfism and heart abnormalities. Some of these conditions can be treated inside the womb - such as kidney and bladder problems. Ultrasound scans can also detect the sex of the unborn foetus.
@KasaiKendia A woman is worth more than a foetus - a Doctor will tell you the same thing. Some Humans get the death sentence - last time I checked Humans made the death sentence legal in some areas of the world. The truth is Humans do decide who lives and who dies. This is the world we live in tell me what makes a fetus more important that a human woman????
@Demon666Chick Yea people did make the death sentence legal, but that doesn't mean I agree with that either, but I'm not going to get into that with you. A fetus is human and deserves a chance at life and that is what I will leave it at.
@Demon666Chick In my opinion, no life is more important than another. Each life is precious and should be cherished, there does that answer your question?
@KasaiKendia It does not make sense that YOU SAID 'no life is more important than another'. So if you found out you have cancer you wouldn't go through chemotherapy? Remember KasaiKendia a Cancer is a life... which is more important your life or the cancers life?????
@KasaiKendia I don't care if you agree with the death sentence or not or if you disagree with abortions. - What I am saying is Humans do decide who lives and who dies. Humans will continue to decide who lives and who dies for eternity. It is funny that YOU SAID 'we are all just Human since when should we get to decide who lives and who dies'. Humans have been making the decision on who lives and who dies since the beginning of time. Educate yourself!
@Demon666Chick I know that they have, I don't recall ever saying "Oh I didn't know that". Just because people do it, doesn't make it right, so Idc that people have been doing it since the beginning of time or whatever, it still doesn't make it right. I'm educated, thank you. Anything else you wanna explain to me? Since you seem to know it all when it comes to people.
@KasaiKendia Did I say I know it all when it comes to people??? No I did not say that... Humans have decided on who lives and who dies since the beginning of time - duh you should actually read a History Book... Your obviously not educated enough.
@Demon666Chick I didn't say you said that, I said it seems that you seem to know everything about people. I just said that humans have decided who lives and dies since the beginning of time in another reply. Guess you didn't see it, read a little closer. I am educated enough for my age and current level of school. Still in high school so of course I still have a lot to learn, I dnt try to act like I knw it all. Jst give my opinion and people seem to get all crazy.
@KasaiKendia No one was getting crazy... and no one was trying to act like they know it all... unless it was you. I would have to be psychic in order to know everything about people KasaiKendia. I was just stating a very obvious fact that Humans have been making decisions on who lives and who dies. I hope you get the rest of your high school education it would be a good Idea that you further you education in college. Perhaps you would learn more History in college.
@Demon666Chick I already knew that humans have been deciding who lives n dies, I said it b4 you stated it. But you must've read past it, happens I guess. People do get crazy, cursing me out and calling me names and being rude and sending me video responses yelling at me. It's ridiculous how crazy ppl get, abortion is wrong in my opinion and it's okay in yours. We'll leave it at that. I aint gon change your mind n you sho aint gon change mine. Killin aint right, unless it's for defense.
@KasaiKendia I also don't see anyone yelling at you - It is not physically possible to yell at someone behind a computer. You should work on your spelling it is a bit horrid... I thought that you were in high school your teachers are supposed to teach you how to spell. You never answered my question-So if you found out you have cancer you wouldn't go through chemotherapy? Remember KasaiKendia a Cancer is a life... which is more important your life or the cancers life????
@Demon666Chick I shortened the words so that they could fit, I know how to spell, I wrote them like that on purpose, guess uve nvr seen txting language. Your question was irrelevant to me because I didn't mean it like u said. But if you must knw, I'd chose my life over the cancer. I realize that cancer is alive, but it isn't human and will never become anything else. When I say yell, I mean how they say their words and when the put all caps or exclamation marks. I knw ppl cnt yell through typin.
@KasaiKendia People like me could also argue that a foetus is not a human life until it is born and taken its first breath. You know what they say about opinions they are like buttholes everyone has one... at least we can agree to disagree =) I have seen texting language I just didn't understand the need for it since you are not texting on a phone.
@Demon666Chick Like I said, it was so it could all fit. I dnt like usin it unless I need to make room or dnt feel like typin it all out. Ya, yall can argue out yall side all you want, but I wnt ever agree and the same goes with my side. Agree to disagree. And the saying should get changed, I seen a baby that was born with no butthole. They should say that opinions are like heads, everyone has one or something like that haha
@KasaiKendia Yeah and he had no penis he was severly retarded and peed from two of his buttholes and he pooped from the middle butthole. He was also deaf and partially blind.
@KasaiKendia No its real... The doctor said if she had had an abortion it would of saved the baby from being in pain and her the heartache. The baby ended up dying from complications due to its abnormalities almost a week later. The woman took her own life the day her baby died by stealing a syringe and shooting air into her IV. Quite sad it could have been prevented... and come to find out her father was the one who raped her. It's a sad story gives me chills =(
@Demon666Chick It is my opinion and I'll never change it, just like I'm sure you wnt change yours. Plain n simple, but ppl dnt seem to get it and wanna act immature and childish, not saying that's you so dnt go there. My high school education is almost over, have military training after school, then college.
@KasaiKendia I think it is great as Humans to have our own opinions that is what makes us unique. I don't expect you to change your opinion... personally I don't care. I also NEVER took your words and twisted them. YOU SAID 'In my opinion, no life is more important than another. Each life is precious and should be cherished' looks like your twisting your words to human life - It is a fact you lied about me twisting your words when it was YOU who changed what you originally said.
@KasaiKendia believe me you know nothing about mental health issues not that i would ever wish mental health issues on anyone.there are usually tests that doctors can do when the fetus is still within the woman to see if something is wrong or they can see through scans i don't think that any woman should carry a child that will have such a painful limited life but pro lifers never tell you about all that can go wrong with an pregnancy
@azariablack I already know what can go wrong with pregnancies, only someone with no mind whatsoever would think that every pregnancy is perfect and that the worst thing that can happen is tearing. Risk is part of life.
@azariablack I'm not joking and it's sad when either one loses their life, but I wnt say abort a fetus/baby just because the mother is scared or because there are some risks. And since when did you care about the baby losing it's life, you're for abortion anyways right? When is it a baby, when it's born? I only say it's okay when it's a medical emergency, any reason beside that, it ain't right in my eyes. That's just my opinion and just like you won't change yours, I wont change mine.
@KasaiKendia you know that it's really hypercritical that most pro lifers support the death penalty and they support war even though it kills millions of men women children and babies and i also find it hypocritical that you would think that i would want babies to die in fact how fucking dear you assume that i would want that i am pro choice because i know that things can go wrong during pregnancy and i know that women get raped and abused.a woman is much more than a fetus
@azariablack But I don't support the death penalty or war, so what you just said was pointless for me. Some do yes, but usually when it comes to war, those are people who sign up knowing that they may die (excluding civilians of course). But last time I checked, I never said that I supported either one of those, because I don't, so I'm not being a hypocrite whatsoever. I know women get raped and abused, I've gone through that already as a child.
@KasaiKendia what about those who are going through that now ? do they have to be victimised yet again by being guiled into carrying their rapists fetus just because they either think that that's what everyone else wants them to do or because they will be called a murderer if they don't
@azariablack Idk about the ones now and why does everything have to be about rape, let's be realistic, most abortions are because the couple was careless or because the protection they did use broke. An abortion from rape isn't nearly as common and even though it happens and is very sad, I wnt change my view on the subject. I dnt call them murderers anymore, but the fetus is still being killed. Nothing can change the past, I know from experience.
@KasaiKendia everyone makes mistakes i think its better to abort than have someone resent and even hate those they are forced to bring in to the world not every parent loves their child and some people who have had the kid and have ended up killing it with their bare hands believe me abortion is far more merciful than being tortured to death by those who are supposed to care for them
@azariablack Yea mistakes are made, thts obvious, but simply aborting every child that is conceived is horrible. Either way, killing is horrible, whether it's a fetus or killing the child after it has been born. Both ways are messed up, because I consider both of them to be human. Not everyone does of course which makes abortion seem like the easy or right choice.
@azariablack Never said they didn't think it through. But obviously the choice was easy enough to make because they had it done. True, some women honestly don't want it but feel they have no choice, but most of the time it's because a woman doesn't want a baby, so they just go and get it killed to solve that problem which is so sad.
@KasaiKendia it doesn't solve the problem not every woman feels as if the fetus is a problem some women have serious health problems and carry the fetus can kill them it's not because she made a stupid mistake who knows maybe she even wanted to carry it but she was not awear of the health problems she had.it's not fair to call a woman a murderer just because she had an abortion believe me our governments have done a hell of alot worse in this world for one stupid reason or another
@azariablack I already said if it's a medical emergency then it's not as messed up, I mean it's still sad because the fetus has to die and the mother loses her baby, but there isn't anything that can really be done sometimes. But usually a mother who has a pregnancy terminated bcus of health, they usually want that baby, so yea I feel bad for them. But why are the rarer cases being listed, most of the time, it's bcus of carelessness and I feel no sympathy for those females.
@KasaiKendia says: most of the time, it's bcus of carelessness and I feel no sympathy for those females.
~~~~~~~~~~~ You need to get educated. 52%, thats more than half, of all abortion performed when done while the women were on birth control. So, please dont prpmote the idea that abortion are all about irresponsible women ...AND, NO female who aborts wants your sympathy. They want your cheers.
@Sueezee1 I'm sorry but I've never ever read that the number one reason is from failed protection, considering I live in California, the 2nd biggest state in the USA and one of the top reasons here is that the girls aren't using protection and that's why they get pregnant. I was just going off of experience. And how are you gonna say none want sympathy, but cheers? You got a twisted mind lady.
@azariablack And Idk where you have seen me say "murderer", but I haven't said tht in a while, I say kill which is what is happening to fetus, it's being killed.
@azariablack I already said if it's for medical reasons, then an abortion is understandable. But since that isn't the case most of the time, I jst cnt support it
@azariablack Being forgiven is not my concern and I don't care if you do or not honestly, that's your problem. Just as you will vote for them to keep having it so freely, I'll vote on putting restrictions on it. That's my choice.
@azariablack Being forgiven is not my concern and I don't care if you do or not honestly, that's your problem. Just as you will vote for them to keep having it so freely, I'll vote on putting restrictions on it. That's my choice.
@azariablack Being forgiven is not my concern and I don't care if you do or not honestly, that's your problem. Just as you will vote for them to keep having it so freely, I'll vote on putting restrictions on it. That's my choice.
@KasaiKendia says: so they just go and get it killed to solve that problem which is so sad.
~~~~~~~~~~ Its not sad...its wonderful. What is sad is having a poor baby that wont be wanted. Do you know what happens to kids who arent wanted? Being born unwanted has health, social, and psychological consequences including divorced parenst, poverty, child abuse, and juvenile delinquency. PLEASE TRY CARING ABOUT THE KIDS MORE YOU HATE ABORTION
@Sueezee1: "What is sad is having a poor baby that wont be wanted... Being born unwanted has health, social, and psychological consequences including divorced parenst, poverty, child abuse, and juvenile delinquency. PLEASE TRY CARING ABOUT THE KIDS."
So your caring response to children who you make a "calculated guess" for, in order to prevent all the above conditions, is death? I will kill the child in the womb to save it from the troubles of a misfortunate life? That is a troubled position.
@Sueezee1 "What is sad is having a poor baby that wont be wanted... Being born unwanted has health, social, and psychological consequences... child abuse, and juvenile delinquency. PLEASE TRY CARING ABOUT THE KIDS."
Unfortunately, you may need to redefine your personal usage of the word "welfare."
Surely welfare seeks to improve the life of the concerned individual, not to kill that life. Your position is untenable in proposing to care for kids if your solution is a pre-emptive death.
@Sueezee1 I know that people suffer, but maybe if the ones who were careless weren't so careless, then maybe that'd help the abortion rate and unwanted children rate drop down some.
@KasaiKendia says: killing is horrible, whether it's a fetus or killing the child after it has been born.
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In a lab, there is a rice sized test tube baby, alive & growing, along with a 2 yr old little girl. The lab is on fire, you can ONLY save one of them. Which would you save. Dont beat around the bush, and make up excuses not to answer. Just answer the question and you'll see youre lying about them being the same.
@Sueezee1 I'm not lying about them being them same, honestly if I could, I'd try to save both. If I had to absolutely chose and there was no other way then of course I'd chose the two year old, that's just common sense. But that doesn't mean I value the two year old's life over the fetus, but it's that the two year old is already living it's life outside the womb and is already a successful pregnancy, but the fetus in the test tube has no guarantee that it''ll make it past that stage.
@azariablack And I dare to say what I said because that's how pro-choicers come across. The baby doesn't really matter because it doesn't feel or it can't speak, so it's okay to just kill it. A fetus is a human, in it's smallest form. No one person is more important than another, but that's just my opinion.
@KasaiKendia a fetus does not mean more than a woman a fetus is a fetus not even a baby yet if human life means so much to you than why don't you care about the woman and what the woman has to go through she is a human being not just a human incubator she has thoughts and feelings of her own why aren't they taken in to account ?
@azariablack I do care about the woman, but unless the woman was raped and forced to have sex, then I wnt have sympathy for her at all. She laid there and took it, so I jst feel tht she should deal with the consequences of what happens when you have sex and aren't prepared for a baby.
@KasaiKendia people are always going to sleep together whether you like them to or not the thing about human bings is that no one can control them people will do whatever they want and they will be as selfish as they want
@azariablack I really dnt care if people have sex, I do it, so I'm not gonna get all pissed cus other people do it. It's not the fact that people have sex, it's that they act so surprised and shocked when they get pregnant(which is what's supposed to happen) and then their solution is to kill the fetus which is sad.
@KasaiKendia you cannot take away people's choices simply because you don't agree with them if you or anyone else could do that we would still be living in the dark ages
@mostly everyone below me: Go fuck yourselves.
KARKLES69 1 day ago
Most whores are pro choice
Jradwhitaker 3 days ago
Too bad your mother wasn't...Jesus...
nehigh 3 days ago
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Basically the pro-choice argument is The fetus isn't a person,but even if it were it doesn't matter because the woman's right to control her body is more important than the fetus's right to exist. The pro-life argument is that abortion is immoral and promotes immoral behavior BUT even if it doesn't the unborn babie's RIGHT to exist temporarily outweighs the woman's right to absolute control of her body. So far I find the pro-life argument more compelling, But I'm still somewhat open minded.
sobriquet1999 1 week ago
yucky
MiloBoz 2 weeks ago
They are growing developing babies and for you to go against nature is wrong, so just shut the fuck up. Guess what stupid bitch, Planned Parenthood had it's worst year ever last year and we will continue to bring them down for the sake of the unborn. Stupid women can go get "back alley abortions" if they want, but abortion is murder and it will be outlawed just as slavery has been outlawed. It's not only Christians who want it outlawed, you uneducated fool. Now go get some dignity and a makover.
Elikam82 2 weeks ago
@Elikam82
If you do not support abortion, do not get one. It is as simple as that.
AtomkraftwerkLiebe 2 weeks ago
@Elikam82 Going against nature? Animals can make themselves miscarry and do it all the time.
TheCrippledCrow 6 hours ago
Listen you sadistic clown. First of all, do you expect people to take you seriously looking like a flat out retard? Get some dignity please. Second, no one gives a damn what you think. Abortion for convinience is wrong and that's all there is to it, there is nothing you can change about the pro-life movement. Late term abortions are illegal now, we are squashing Planned Parenhood. It's not a "Clump of Cells", that comment proves you are not educated. It's a clump of cells but they are human cell
Elikam82 2 weeks ago
@Elikam82 first of all you sound like a retarded prick, second of all what about pill abortions? all you prolife fags forget about that and focus on dead fetuses. i support both, and this woman has more brains than you ever will have fun in hell oh nvm that doesnt even exist:)
msladysaurus 1 week ago
@msladysaurus The pill still kills the fetus, so what's your point?
KasaiKendia 1 week ago
@KasaiKendia my ponit is that im prochoice:) i do what i want!
msladysaurus 1 week ago
@msladysaurus Boring point and not a good one at that. I meant what's your point with talking about the pill.
KasaiKendia 1 week ago
@KasaiKendia because i always hear these prolife people talk about dead fetuses and late term abortions. they never really talk about the pill form which can be taken up to 9 weeks after you get pregnant. i honestly dont care. im never having kids anyway and im on birthcontrol because i dont want to get pregnant. if i accidently did get pregnant id get an abortion. do know how hard it is to take care of a baby? its expensive too. i have a 2 year old sister so i definitely know.
msladysaurus 1 week ago
@msladysaurus Yea I know how hard it is, I've helped take care of babies and young children since I was a little kid, so yea I know. Well congrats on being on the pill, that's good for you. I take nothing and if I got pregnant, I'd keep the baby and I just turned 18 and still in high school, but that's just me. The pill form you're talking about still kills the baby so it's really no different, just more convenient.
KasaiKendia 1 week ago
@Elikam82 i see your a big moron on a lot of comment boards lol
liragon 1 week ago
@liragon You think I'm a moron? Look at the clown in this video.
Elikam82 1 week ago
@liragon I swear society gets dumber as the years go by.
Elikam82 1 week ago
@Elikam82 Pro-birth movement. And what do you call a baby that turned into a motionless parastict mass on it's twin? Baby. Lulz
TheCrippledCrow 6 hours ago
@Elikam82 Forced birth kids in the future will thank your movement when they're sitting in a crowded system, starving and unwanted.
TheCrippledCrow 6 hours ago
@Sueezee1, I thoroughly enjoy reading what you write, it makes me feel sane and like not everyone is a simple-minded religious blowhard who wants to restrict the choices of women.
Jazabelle85 2 weeks ago
@Jazabelle85 What about those people who don't believe in anything but still feel abortion is wrong, or at least the unnecessary ones. What do you call those people, because it seems anyone who beliefs in a higher power are just idiotic religious people who don't know anything. So I just wanna know what'd you call a person who is atheist and still is pro-life.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia There's no such thing as atheism silly.
Elikam82 2 weeks ago
@Elikam82 Thought there was, my bad. Atheist then and thanks for being respectful about it
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
Okay it seems a consistent thought that you can "KILL" the little life in the womb to "SAVE" it from a troubled life. Aside from the blatant logical contravention between the two ideas, moving on!
Not like a toddler? (In the certainty of time it will be. TODDLER only denotes a stage of human development. FETUS: simply a small and growing human being)
"GENERALLY, it is a clump of cells" (So... why the grief in coming to the decision to abort? generally, you're ONLY aborting a clump of cells)
SpankinMusic 2 weeks ago
I agreed with pretty much everything you said. Before I saw this vid I wondering if I should feel bad about being pro-choice because of religious reasons. Now I don't feel bad anymore, we should be allowed choices as humans. Thank you :)
XGoodies 2 weeks ago
@XGoodies says: wondering if I should feel bad about being pro-choice because of religious reasons.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Nowhere in the bible does it say abortion is a sin, as matter of fact, abortion was used (in bible) to punish a women who was pregnant by a man other than her husband.
Sueezee1 2 weeks ago
@Sueezee1 "Thou shall not kill" the ten commandments, the main rules of the Bible say that abortion, which is killing a fetus/baby, is wrong.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@XGoodies: "Before I saw this vid I wondering if I should feel bad about being pro-choice because of religious reasons."
If I could ask, what were those religious reasons? :)
SpankinMusic 2 weeks ago
Thank you for the video... I began to believe that No one else saw it like that
KalaReynolds666 3 weeks ago
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Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
A foetus is not a human until it is born - Has a foetus ever picked up a weapon and murdered a Human??? Humans do decide who lives and dies. You could say a tumor or cancer is a life... its okay to kill a cancer but its not okay to kill embryonic cells/foetus. It makes you a hyprocrite if you believe a cancers life is not important, I mean it is a life isn't it????
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
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Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
if you think all women are cruel and evil for having an abortion watch
A Viewer's Story : And you have the nerve to ask why I'm PRO CHOICE!! by PhoenixRayneweaver
azariablack 3 weeks ago
People should just mind their own damn business when it comes to abortion. If you don't like or agree with abortion DONT GET ONE! Abortion will be around forever Get Over It
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chicksays=" People should just mind their own damn business"
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You mean like when the NAZIs were murdering the jews.
If you think murdering jews is wrong then just don't murder any ..eh?
ekajeht 3 weeks ago
@ekajeht That is a bad analogy. - That was Genocide having an abortion is not Genocide. When it comes to womans reproductive rights men like you should mind your own business... as well as woman who try to control another womans reproductive rights. I don't really care to talk to you... You are boring and just copy what I say and make stupid analogies. Abortion will always be an choice and a right for women.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@ekajeht Don't comment ME anymore your boring
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
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ekajeht 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick BORING?
You didn't think I was boring when I busted you in a lie on the -(RE: Why I'm Pro Choice) video by PhoinexRayneweaver.
ekajeht 3 weeks ago
@ekajeht I have never watched phoinexRayneweaver you have never busted me on a lie... from what I have read you have me confused with sueezee. You are dumb! Get a Life and yes you are very boring I know women must fake their orgasms with you
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick says=" I have never watched (RE:Why I'm Pro Choice) by PhoniexRayneweaver "
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Well you should try watching it sometime ....SEEING AS YOU COMMENTED ON IT OVER AND OVER until I busted you as a liar and also for you using more than one sign in name.
ekajeht 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick SAYS=" I never watched......YOU HAVE ME CONFUSED WITH SUEEZEE"
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Who said anything about sueezee?
The only place I mentioned anything about sueezee is on the thread YOU NEVER WATCHED!
LOL
You can't help but walk into your own lies over and over can you?
ekajeht 3 weeks ago
@ekajeht I looked on the video you mentioned and I didn't write a comment on that video. I have never watched that video or commented on it though I saw that you were having an arguement with suezzee and I think you have me confused with her or you are just nuts. I never commented on that video if anyone is lying it is you. So get a life buddy go jack off or invent more stupid analogies =)
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@ekajeht I see what you are doing playing your little mind games. Your life must be sad I feel sorry for you.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick-----OK here it is.--
I am sorry!
I did have you mixed up with someone else.
I apologize.
I was wrong!
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.But I'll still be keeping an eye on you!
ekajeht 3 weeks ago
@ekajeht Next time you need to check yourself before you reck yourself. I don't think you need to keep an eye on me im not a creepy next door neighbor. Our views are different but we can agree to disagree.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
Damn , i thought you was a Bitch lmao .
LoveSoWett 4 weeks ago
you can be pro life all you want but you have NO right to decide over someone else's body and neither do i you also have no right to pry into other peoples life to tell them what they should do
azariablack 1 month ago
look being cruel to people is not going to make them side with you no matter what you believe im pro choice and no amount of mean selfish words are going to make me think otherwise so kindly keep all of your abuse to yourself i don't need stupid people emailing me and giving me death threats (kind of ironic from pro lifers don't you think?)
azariablack 1 month ago
@azariablack A bit, but considering your side does the same thing, then whatever. Some people don't know how to debate w/o getting all crazy. I keep it simple. Abortion is wrong. The end.
KasaiKendia 1 month ago
@KasaiKendia you mean abortion is wrong because you don't agree with it
azariablack 1 month ago
@azariablack No I mean what I said, don't go changing around what I said. It's wrong because someone is killing an innocent life. Last time I checked, killing something innocent is wrong and messed up.
KasaiKendia 1 month ago
@KasaiKendia you know what's messed up ? making someone carry a child and making them give birth to it just because you think they should this world is already over populated as it is by stupid people giving birth to kids they dont even want usually unwanted kids that are abused by those who were supposed to love and care for them do you really want another child to go through that because pro lifers are so stubborn
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack Well maybe if, oh I don't know, people would calm down their sex drive, then there'd be less pregnancies, therefore, less unwanted children and less abortions. And don't act as though pro-lifers are the only stubborn ones, pro-choicers are stubborn too.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia do you really think that people are going to do what ever you say ? sorry to say but people will continue to sleep with eachother whether you or i like it or not
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack No duh, I can't even make my little sister listen to me. I'm not trying to force people to listen, that would use too much energy. If a person wants to listen and agree, great. If they don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. I'm not the one killing a baby afterall.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia firstly grow up no one says duh anymore this isn't the nineties seriously what are you ten ? and secondly of all it's not a baby it's a fetus and thirdly do you really think replying to all of us is really going to change our minds in anyway ?
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack I can say "duh" if I please, I'll stop saying it when you stop calling me names, which is also what ten year olds do, so I guess we're both little children. A fetus turns into a baby if the pregnancy goes on and I never said I was going to change your mind, did I ever say that at all? No, I didn't. I'm simply expressing my views about the subject, just as you are.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia if you can say what ever you like i can do the same if you have a problem with it don't bother responding to me it's simple. just because you get you're underpants in a bunch and respond to everyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't mean any of us give a damn you just seem like another one of those right wing nut jobs or are you just trolling
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack I'm not a nut job and I'm not trolling. It's not you I have a problem with, I don't even know you. It's the poor choice of words you use, calling me names and making rude comments like you're arguing on the playgrounds in elementary school. That's all.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia then why keep replying to me if i'm so immature ?
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack If I didn't speak to people who were immature, I'd hardly have anyone to speak to.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia finally something we both agree on
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack I suppose so
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
im proud to be pro choice the religious bigots can think what ever they like but they are not the ones raising all the unwanted children in this world and they are not the ones paying for their health care or schooling either.forcing a woman to have a child she doesn't want is just punishing her you can say that she should of kept her legs close but what about the man who got her pregnant what does he get off scott free? why is it always supposed to be the woman's fault?
azariablack 1 month ago 3
@azariablack I love your comment, I agree 100%
Demon666Chick 1 month ago
@Demon666Chick im glad someone agrees with me.i just don't think that its fair for the so called religious right to blame everything on women after all she didn't make herself pregnant yet they want to assume that it's all her fault for the position she is in and do they really think being cruel to women is going to make us side with them anyway ? every story is different and its wrong to take away people's choices just because they do not agree with them
azariablack 1 month ago 3
@azariablack Most of the time, the sex is consensual. Tru, it takes two, but the man can walk away, the woman, sadly can't. But those are the consequences to the choices we make in life. Wah wah wah, oh well. It's the easy way out and really sad. I think people would be a whole lot careful if abortion was illegal.
KasaiKendia 1 month ago
@KasaiKendia if you are trying to make a valid point you are sadly failing. the truth is pro lifers see everything as it is supposed to be so black and white people do evil things to each other like rape and incest do you choose to ignore those facts just because you are so biased?do you really think that the women who choose to have abortions haven't thought about it over and over again?
azariablack 1 month ago
@azariablack Nope, infact I know what it's like to be violated by a grown man. I know some women think things through in their head, that's obvious, but that doesn't mean that they're anymore right than the girls who just get it done. The result is still the same, a fetus/baby killed. I do see some of yall points, but I'll never agre with them. Only time abortion is even close to okay, is if the mother will die no matter what or if the baby has 0% survival, but those are both slim chances.
KasaiKendia 1 month ago
@KasaiKendia yall i take it you are american right?well i think that it's the woman's right to choose what she does with her body i dont think that any government or any religious nut job has the right to tell her what she can and cannot do to her body she is the one who had to carry it and give birth to it not them.if you don't agree with abortion then don't have one it's simple but people will still get one reguardless of what pro lifers think
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack No duh, really? See this whole time I thought the man carries the baby. I know it's the woman who carries the baby, and of course I would never have an abortion, they're so messed up.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia oh how funny sarcasm oh my how big of you.if you don't want an abortion then don't get one but don't think for one second that you have the right to tell people what they can and can't do because let's face people are not going to listen to you or to me it's their decision not yours and not mine.go ahead continue to have a go at me i enjoy it
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack It gets tiring to be the big person, so I decided to just be sarcastic. I'm not trying to have a go at you, don't think of yourself so highly. I express how I feel, you reply, then I reply. Simple as that. I can think as I please, just like you can. Abortion will always be wrong, so it doesn't matter if people listen or not.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia i take it you are one of those right wing morons who think that it's my way or the high way right and no abortion isn't always wrong shaming people for making a difficult decision is wrong take it from someone who has seen what shaming and belittling people does
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack I'm not a nut or a moron and no, I don't think it's my way or the high way, I try to understand other people's points of views most of the time, but there are some things that I have to stand firm on. I know what belittling people does and it aint good, but I'm not doing that and if abortion isn't wrong, then the people who do it, shouldn't feel any shame at all, no matter what anyone says or does.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia if you are trying to understand where people are coming from then why the hell are you saying all abortion is wrong i don't know whether you are blind ignorant or just to young to understand what life is really like
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack Just because I understand, doesn't mean I agree. I'm neither ignorant nor too young to understand life. I understand how hard life can be and that sometimes tough decisions have to be made. I may be young, but I understand a lot more than you older people think.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia it's funny that all the younger people think they understand everything but in reality they don't know squat. you nor i have been through the hell other people have been through but it's so easy to judge isn't it
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack The hell you guys keep talking about is being raped and about life being hard. Um I'm sorry, did you see my childhood? Were you there when that grown man would have me touch his privates or when I had a grown man kissing me and touching me? No? I didn't think you were, quit acting as if my life is just perfect and that I think life is all rainbows and unicorns, quite the opposite. Life sucks when you aren't rich and every once in a while, we have good experiences.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@azariablack The only thing I can't identify with adults is paying bills and having children. That's it. Anything else you wanna tell me about myself? I mean since you seem to know.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia look i in no way know everything i have never said i do but my point is that you never know what someone goes through in their life unless you have been there yourself it's quite easy to say that you would or wouldn't do something when you haven't been in certain situations
azariablack 4 weeks ago
@azariablack No, I know what I would do because I know myself. Considering I've been raped, I can say what I would do in that situation. Considering I dnt have a lot of money, I can say what I'd do in that situation.
KasaiKendia 4 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia but what if you got pregnant during that horrific ordeal? can't you understand that no woman wants to carry their rapists child ? so why should she he already cruelly attacked her why should she be defiled and punished again
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack I didn't get pregnant when it happened to me bcus I was just a kid and he was an old man so Idk if his swimmers were working anymore. But, getting pregnant by him now would be devastating, but I wouldn't kill my baby. That's just giving him more power over me, why should I terminate somethin so beautiful just bcus of wht he did? Tht's how I see it. Abortion is only right when it's a medical emergency n there jst isn't any other way around it.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia do you know what it's like to live knowing that you were the product of someone's rape ? do you know how hard it is to find out something like that do you realize the self hatred you will always have because you know what was done to your mother ? believe me i wouldn't wish that on anyone because it's one of the worst thing's you will ever have to live with.what's you're opinion on serverly disabled children do you think that it's right to abort them to save them pain
azariablack 3 weeks ago 2
@azariablack No, I'm not the result of a rape. But my father still doesn't love me or care for me which hurts just as much. I dnt know the love of a father either and he is disrespectful to my mother, so I almost knw the feeling. Not all rape children wanna die or regret being born, and what about babies born from consensual sex, what's your excuse for that? As for the disabled kids, I know some and they're very happy. Only some of the kids you're talking about are miserable.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia how do you know how every child of rape feels ? do you realize how many people actually want to die and how many people wish they were never born ? and what about children with very severe health conditions that will sadly limit their life do you think that a child should have to suffer and die just because someone wants to take the mother right away to an abortion is that fair on any child ? the worlds full of miserable people barely surviving
azariablack 3 weeks ago 2
@azariablack Never said I knew how every rape child feels and yes I know there are alot of people who dnt want to live, but obviously they want to live enough not to kill themselves. As for the children with severe health conditions, you can't usually tell until they're born. I'm not naive, i know there are millions of people surviving, but last time I checked, we were all just human, since when should we get to decide who lives and who dies.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
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Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia AFP (alpha-fetoprotein) is a protein which is made by all fetuses. AFP can be measured in the mother's blood. The AFP screening test identifies women who may be further along, or not as far along, in their pregnancy as they thought.The test can also identify women who are carrying a fetus with a neural tube defect, or other severe birth defects such as a kidney or abdominal wall defect. As you can see a fetus can be checked for problems... YOU are a bit NAIVE.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick Not really but okay. Even if there is a test for this or whatever, it still doesn't make abortion okay. The tests that are done on a fetus are never 100%, only thing that is 100% is whether the baby is a boy or girl. The tests are just possibilities of what the fetus can be born with and like I said to azaria, last time I checked we were all human. Who are we to decide who lives and who dies. It's a bit arrogant.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
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Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
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@KasaiKendia What abnormalities do ultrasound scanners pick up?
Ultrasound will pick up around 70 per cent of serious abnormalities of the foetus - about one in 50 unborn foetus have severe problems. These include hydrocephalus, spina bifida, short limbs, dwarfism and heart abnormalities. Some of these conditions can be treated inside the womb - such as kidney and bladder problems. Ultrasound scans can also detect the sex of the unborn foetus.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia A woman is worth more than a foetus - a Doctor will tell you the same thing. Some Humans get the death sentence - last time I checked Humans made the death sentence legal in some areas of the world. The truth is Humans do decide who lives and who dies. This is the world we live in tell me what makes a fetus more important that a human woman????
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick Yea people did make the death sentence legal, but that doesn't mean I agree with that either, but I'm not going to get into that with you. A fetus is human and deserves a chance at life and that is what I will leave it at.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia That is your opinion- Opinions doesn't make it right.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick Never said it did, jst gave my opinion.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia You never answered my question " what makes a foetus more important that a human woman????' A Human woman is a life.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick In my opinion, no life is more important than another. Each life is precious and should be cherished, there does that answer your question?
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia It does not make sense that YOU SAID 'no life is more important than another'. So if you found out you have cancer you wouldn't go through chemotherapy? Remember KasaiKendia a Cancer is a life... which is more important your life or the cancers life?????
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick Wow, okay let me rephrase that cus you took my words n twisted them. No human life is more important than another.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia I don't care if you agree with the death sentence or not or if you disagree with abortions. - What I am saying is Humans do decide who lives and who dies. Humans will continue to decide who lives and who dies for eternity. It is funny that YOU SAID 'we are all just Human since when should we get to decide who lives and who dies'. Humans have been making the decision on who lives and who dies since the beginning of time. Educate yourself!
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick I know that they have, I don't recall ever saying "Oh I didn't know that". Just because people do it, doesn't make it right, so Idc that people have been doing it since the beginning of time or whatever, it still doesn't make it right. I'm educated, thank you. Anything else you wanna explain to me? Since you seem to know it all when it comes to people.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia Did I say I know it all when it comes to people??? No I did not say that... Humans have decided on who lives and who dies since the beginning of time - duh you should actually read a History Book... Your obviously not educated enough.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick I didn't say you said that, I said it seems that you seem to know everything about people. I just said that humans have decided who lives and dies since the beginning of time in another reply. Guess you didn't see it, read a little closer. I am educated enough for my age and current level of school. Still in high school so of course I still have a lot to learn, I dnt try to act like I knw it all. Jst give my opinion and people seem to get all crazy.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia No one was getting crazy... and no one was trying to act like they know it all... unless it was you. I would have to be psychic in order to know everything about people KasaiKendia. I was just stating a very obvious fact that Humans have been making decisions on who lives and who dies. I hope you get the rest of your high school education it would be a good Idea that you further you education in college. Perhaps you would learn more History in college.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick I already knew that humans have been deciding who lives n dies, I said it b4 you stated it. But you must've read past it, happens I guess. People do get crazy, cursing me out and calling me names and being rude and sending me video responses yelling at me. It's ridiculous how crazy ppl get, abortion is wrong in my opinion and it's okay in yours. We'll leave it at that. I aint gon change your mind n you sho aint gon change mine. Killin aint right, unless it's for defense.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia I also don't see anyone yelling at you - It is not physically possible to yell at someone behind a computer. You should work on your spelling it is a bit horrid... I thought that you were in high school your teachers are supposed to teach you how to spell. You never answered my question-So if you found out you have cancer you wouldn't go through chemotherapy? Remember KasaiKendia a Cancer is a life... which is more important your life or the cancers life????
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick I shortened the words so that they could fit, I know how to spell, I wrote them like that on purpose, guess uve nvr seen txting language. Your question was irrelevant to me because I didn't mean it like u said. But if you must knw, I'd chose my life over the cancer. I realize that cancer is alive, but it isn't human and will never become anything else. When I say yell, I mean how they say their words and when the put all caps or exclamation marks. I knw ppl cnt yell through typin.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia People like me could also argue that a foetus is not a human life until it is born and taken its first breath. You know what they say about opinions they are like buttholes everyone has one... at least we can agree to disagree =) I have seen texting language I just didn't understand the need for it since you are not texting on a phone.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick Like I said, it was so it could all fit. I dnt like usin it unless I need to make room or dnt feel like typin it all out. Ya, yall can argue out yall side all you want, but I wnt ever agree and the same goes with my side. Agree to disagree. And the saying should get changed, I seen a baby that was born with no butthole. They should say that opinions are like heads, everyone has one or something like that haha
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia I've seen a baby with 3 buttholes =)
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick Omg, poor thing. That aint right lol, three crap holes, man cnt imagine that.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia Yeah and he had no penis he was severly retarded and peed from two of his buttholes and he pooped from the middle butthole. He was also deaf and partially blind.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick Wth. That's jst gross n sad
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick Poor thing. No way can tht be real
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia No its real... The doctor said if she had had an abortion it would of saved the baby from being in pain and her the heartache. The baby ended up dying from complications due to its abnormalities almost a week later. The woman took her own life the day her baby died by stealing a syringe and shooting air into her IV. Quite sad it could have been prevented... and come to find out her father was the one who raped her. It's a sad story gives me chills =(
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick Yea it is a sad story indeed, but it still doesn't change my views. Sorry it happened to her and her loved ones.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@Demon666Chick It is my opinion and I'll never change it, just like I'm sure you wnt change yours. Plain n simple, but ppl dnt seem to get it and wanna act immature and childish, not saying that's you so dnt go there. My high school education is almost over, have military training after school, then college.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
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@KasaiKendia I think it is great as Humans to have our own opinions that is what makes us unique. I don't expect you to change your opinion... personally I don't care. I also NEVER took your words and twisted them. YOU SAID 'In my opinion, no life is more important than another. Each life is precious and should be cherished' looks like your twisting your words to human life - It is a fact you lied about me twisting your words when it was YOU who changed what you originally said.
Demon666Chick 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia believe me you know nothing about mental health issues not that i would ever wish mental health issues on anyone.there are usually tests that doctors can do when the fetus is still within the woman to see if something is wrong or they can see through scans i don't think that any woman should carry a child that will have such a painful limited life but pro lifers never tell you about all that can go wrong with an pregnancy
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack I already know what can go wrong with pregnancies, only someone with no mind whatsoever would think that every pregnancy is perfect and that the worst thing that can happen is tearing. Risk is part of life.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia please tell my you are joking ? what about a mother or baby losing their lives
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack I'm not joking and it's sad when either one loses their life, but I wnt say abort a fetus/baby just because the mother is scared or because there are some risks. And since when did you care about the baby losing it's life, you're for abortion anyways right? When is it a baby, when it's born? I only say it's okay when it's a medical emergency, any reason beside that, it ain't right in my eyes. That's just my opinion and just like you won't change yours, I wont change mine.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia you know that it's really hypercritical that most pro lifers support the death penalty and they support war even though it kills millions of men women children and babies and i also find it hypocritical that you would think that i would want babies to die in fact how fucking dear you assume that i would want that i am pro choice because i know that things can go wrong during pregnancy and i know that women get raped and abused.a woman is much more than a fetus
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack dare*
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack But I don't support the death penalty or war, so what you just said was pointless for me. Some do yes, but usually when it comes to war, those are people who sign up knowing that they may die (excluding civilians of course). But last time I checked, I never said that I supported either one of those, because I don't, so I'm not being a hypocrite whatsoever. I know women get raped and abused, I've gone through that already as a child.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia what about those who are going through that now ? do they have to be victimised yet again by being guiled into carrying their rapists fetus just because they either think that that's what everyone else wants them to do or because they will be called a murderer if they don't
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack Idk about the ones now and why does everything have to be about rape, let's be realistic, most abortions are because the couple was careless or because the protection they did use broke. An abortion from rape isn't nearly as common and even though it happens and is very sad, I wnt change my view on the subject. I dnt call them murderers anymore, but the fetus is still being killed. Nothing can change the past, I know from experience.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia everyone makes mistakes i think its better to abort than have someone resent and even hate those they are forced to bring in to the world not every parent loves their child and some people who have had the kid and have ended up killing it with their bare hands believe me abortion is far more merciful than being tortured to death by those who are supposed to care for them
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack Yea mistakes are made, thts obvious, but simply aborting every child that is conceived is horrible. Either way, killing is horrible, whether it's a fetus or killing the child after it has been born. Both ways are messed up, because I consider both of them to be human. Not everyone does of course which makes abortion seem like the easy or right choice.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia abortion is never an easy choice i dont know any woman who would choose to have an abortion without thinking it through first
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack Never said they didn't think it through. But obviously the choice was easy enough to make because they had it done. True, some women honestly don't want it but feel they have no choice, but most of the time it's because a woman doesn't want a baby, so they just go and get it killed to solve that problem which is so sad.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia it doesn't solve the problem not every woman feels as if the fetus is a problem some women have serious health problems and carry the fetus can kill them it's not because she made a stupid mistake who knows maybe she even wanted to carry it but she was not awear of the health problems she had.it's not fair to call a woman a murderer just because she had an abortion believe me our governments have done a hell of alot worse in this world for one stupid reason or another
azariablack 2 weeks ago
@azariablack I already said if it's a medical emergency then it's not as messed up, I mean it's still sad because the fetus has to die and the mother loses her baby, but there isn't anything that can really be done sometimes. But usually a mother who has a pregnancy terminated bcus of health, they usually want that baby, so yea I feel bad for them. But why are the rarer cases being listed, most of the time, it's bcus of carelessness and I feel no sympathy for those females.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia says: most of the time, it's bcus of carelessness and I feel no sympathy for those females.
~~~~~~~~~~~ You need to get educated. 52%, thats more than half, of all abortion performed when done while the women were on birth control. So, please dont prpmote the idea that abortion are all about irresponsible women ...AND, NO female who aborts wants your sympathy. They want your cheers.
Sueezee1 2 weeks ago
@Sueezee1 I'm sorry but I've never ever read that the number one reason is from failed protection, considering I live in California, the 2nd biggest state in the USA and one of the top reasons here is that the girls aren't using protection and that's why they get pregnant. I was just going off of experience. And how are you gonna say none want sympathy, but cheers? You got a twisted mind lady.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@azariablack And Idk where you have seen me say "murderer", but I haven't said tht in a while, I say kill which is what is happening to fetus, it's being killed.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia it's not murder in most cases it's an act of mercy
azariablack 2 weeks ago
@azariablack Act of mercy? No, that's just a way of making it sound okay.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia so keeping a fetus that has a terminal disease is an act of mercy then ?
azariablack 2 weeks ago
@azariablack I already said if it's for medical reasons, then an abortion is understandable. But since that isn't the case most of the time, I jst cnt support it
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia you don't have to support it but taking that choice away from another woman is unforgivable
azariablack 2 weeks ago
@azariablack Being forgiven is not my concern and I don't care if you do or not honestly, that's your problem. Just as you will vote for them to keep having it so freely, I'll vote on putting restrictions on it. That's my choice.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@azariablack Being forgiven is not my concern and I don't care if you do or not honestly, that's your problem. Just as you will vote for them to keep having it so freely, I'll vote on putting restrictions on it. That's my choice.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
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@azariablack Being forgiven is not my concern and I don't care if you do or not honestly, that's your problem. Just as you will vote for them to keep having it so freely, I'll vote on putting restrictions on it. That's my choice.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia says: so they just go and get it killed to solve that problem which is so sad.
~~~~~~~~~~ Its not sad...its wonderful. What is sad is having a poor baby that wont be wanted. Do you know what happens to kids who arent wanted? Being born unwanted has health, social, and psychological consequences including divorced parenst, poverty, child abuse, and juvenile delinquency. PLEASE TRY CARING ABOUT THE KIDS MORE YOU HATE ABORTION
Sueezee1 2 weeks ago
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@Sueezee1: "What is sad is having a poor baby that wont be wanted... Being born unwanted has health, social, and psychological consequences including divorced parenst, poverty, child abuse, and juvenile delinquency. PLEASE TRY CARING ABOUT THE KIDS."
So your caring response to children who you make a "calculated guess" for, in order to prevent all the above conditions, is death? I will kill the child in the womb to save it from the troubles of a misfortunate life? That is a troubled position.
SpankinMusic 2 weeks ago
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@Sueezee1 "What is sad is having a poor baby that wont be wanted... Being born unwanted has health, social, and psychological consequences... child abuse, and juvenile delinquency. PLEASE TRY CARING ABOUT THE KIDS."
Unfortunately, you may need to redefine your personal usage of the word "welfare."
Surely welfare seeks to improve the life of the concerned individual, not to kill that life. Your position is untenable in proposing to care for kids if your solution is a pre-emptive death.
SpankinMusic 2 weeks ago
@Sueezee1 I know that people suffer, but maybe if the ones who were careless weren't so careless, then maybe that'd help the abortion rate and unwanted children rate drop down some.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
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@KasaiKendia says: killing is horrible, whether it's a fetus or killing the child after it has been born.
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In a lab, there is a rice sized test tube baby, alive & growing, along with a 2 yr old little girl. The lab is on fire, you can ONLY save one of them. Which would you save. Dont beat around the bush, and make up excuses not to answer. Just answer the question and you'll see youre lying about them being the same.
Sueezee1 2 weeks ago
@Sueezee1 I'm not lying about them being them same, honestly if I could, I'd try to save both. If I had to absolutely chose and there was no other way then of course I'd chose the two year old, that's just common sense. But that doesn't mean I value the two year old's life over the fetus, but it's that the two year old is already living it's life outside the womb and is already a successful pregnancy, but the fetus in the test tube has no guarantee that it''ll make it past that stage.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@azariablack And I dare to say what I said because that's how pro-choicers come across. The baby doesn't really matter because it doesn't feel or it can't speak, so it's okay to just kill it. A fetus is a human, in it's smallest form. No one person is more important than another, but that's just my opinion.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia a fetus does not mean more than a woman a fetus is a fetus not even a baby yet if human life means so much to you than why don't you care about the woman and what the woman has to go through she is a human being not just a human incubator she has thoughts and feelings of her own why aren't they taken in to account ?
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack I do care about the woman, but unless the woman was raped and forced to have sex, then I wnt have sympathy for her at all. She laid there and took it, so I jst feel tht she should deal with the consequences of what happens when you have sex and aren't prepared for a baby.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia people are always going to sleep together whether you like them to or not the thing about human bings is that no one can control them people will do whatever they want and they will be as selfish as they want
azariablack 3 weeks ago
@azariablack I really dnt care if people have sex, I do it, so I'm not gonna get all pissed cus other people do it. It's not the fact that people have sex, it's that they act so surprised and shocked when they get pregnant(which is what's supposed to happen) and then their solution is to kill the fetus which is sad.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia says: It's not the fact that people have sex, it's that they act so surprised and shocked when they get pregnan
~~~~~~~~~~~ Even women are are trying to get pregnant are surprised and shocked. Do you have a point?
Sueezee1 2 weeks ago
@Sueezee1 Considering that's not even what I meant and that you knew that, I won't explain my comment any further. Don't play dumb.
KasaiKendia 2 weeks ago
@azariablack And I'm not saying my word goes or anything like that, jst expressing my opinion. Plain and Simple.
KasaiKendia 3 weeks ago
@KasaiKendia you cannot take away people's choices simply because you don't agree with them if you or anyone else could do that we would still be living in the dark ages