What a waste of time on both my part for watching this, and on your part. You were asking the wrong people....the entire time! That's like going to Lowes for a problem you had at Home Depot. WTF?
yeah, he points out a double standard as far as pubs and dems go. 100 percent legit. kucinich was banned just to shut his opinion off from millions of potential
shame he pulled out of the democratic nominations. Just goes to show that the Democrats are as manipulated by the corporate puppet masters as the Republicans. Fortunately RALPH NADER is still running, for those of you that care, do the research. He is older, wiser and never sold out. He has parallel views to this fellow, the intelligence, determination and stamina to get the job done. PLEASE GIVE HIM REAL AND SERIOUS CONSIDERATION FOR AMERICA"S SAKE (AND THE REST OF THE WORLD)!!!!!
I really hope both man in some way work together to make the whole "change movement" for the government work. I actually admire Kucinich's bold & courageous fight with e other candidates 4 his values. Very much like Ron Paul did.I am a supporter of Ron Paul, but I really hope they can work something out to help each other. Its not who to b e president, but get e government back 2 constitution. Its a long term fight, that way we call it a Revolution. Join in the revolution.
All voices should be heard, no matter how small they are. It doesn't matter if it's Ron Paul which I support or John McCain which I don't at all, every candidate should get an equal voice so their opinions can be heard. The media is so biased and unfair that it influences who gets into office more than the voters themselves.
I don't understand-- The lady that spoke for the Iowa Democratic Party said that "there are things beyond their control". Dennis is a DEMOCRATIC presidential candidate. Is that so beyond their control? What's the problem?
Dennis K was excluded from the Iowa debate for the simple fact he didnt speak up when Mike Gravel was being excluded 3 debates prior, his silence to the corruption lead to him being wrong excluded as well. However if Dennis K. would have shown some leadership and informed the public what was going on, he as well as Gravel might be in the debates today.
You'll be living in a nightmare if you think the repubs and dens have a different agenda .. Zzzzz... bahhh, bahhhh!
I believe in the constitution, not corporate greed. I believe the people need to control the government, not vice versa. Anyone who thinks it's okay to give up their sons and daughters for power hungry, flip-flopping candidates & war mongers should be ashamed of themselves - after they wake up and find theirselves jobless and with paper money that isn't backed up by squat.
Kucinich supporters should vote Ron Paul - not Obama. Obama is for "corporate interests" like the rest of them. What slays me more is he is willing to stay in IraQ "until we win". Ron Paul's views are in line with Kucinich. Democrats for Ron Paul here.
maybe im crazy but kucinich supporters should vote kucinich and fight to get him on the ballot not just accept paul as a sub though i do like ron paul kucinich is right on not only political but social issues
...the same reason Ron Paul got excluded: He stands no chance of winning. This is the real world, not ideologue fantasy camp. No one is censoring Kucinich, you can find his silly rants everywhere online and in magazines. He's just not a serious contender for president, we want to hear from those who are at this debate.
Paul got 10%, more than doubled the amount of votes Giuliani got, and he gets more money from the Armed Forces that any other candidate (which judging from your username might be of use to you). I think it's apparents now that FOX has been forced to rethink their position, at least a little. By your logic, shouldn't Giuliani have been expcluded based on Iowa's results?
Giuliani intentionally did not campaign in Iowa. That was kind of a big deal. No one expected him to make a Top-2 finish, and skipping Iowa added to that. I've heard the claim that he has more military donors than any candidate, but I haven't seen the figures to back that up. Either way, his positions are ridiculous especially regarding the military and military readiness.
Iowa did kucinich a favor in my opinion. That man has the weakest debate ability I've ever seen.
Moreover, for those mentally challenged among you, talking about democracy, they didn't keep him off the ballot, he just wasn't allowed into the debate. People will still be allowed to vote for him.
Did you really expect to walk in to the Des Moines register and get a quote on camera? Nobody, no institution, no company, no business will give you a quote on camera unannounced. It's not crazy, it's not abnormal. not to detract from your main point, but I think it's unfair to insinuate that the editor was being a jerk or flippant when he was doing what anybody approached point blank would do. AT least, thats how it seemed it was portrayed to me
Of course he didn't but there are enough people who sympathize sitting at their computer monitors saying "Yeah man, look at that capitalist, facist pig ignoring his questions, when Davis is totally harassing him. He's trying to hold us down man! Right on Davis!"
That guy could have given him a real answer, or he could have no been present at all. It would have all been part of the conspiracy. Damned no matter what.
Harassing him how???? What's wrong with asking a couple of questions??? This is a big deal. They should be damned for making such a decision. Has nothing to do with this bs after the fact.
Fox News has nothing to do with who is or isn't participating in this forum. They are only carrying the broadcast. The NH republican party is responsible for who is or isn't invited.
Dennis and Elizabeth attack the American people everyday by trying to advance their crackpot Marxist policies on them. Why would you think they would object to their brainwashed following doing the same?
Re: "lup-hole": You said he "Supports the illegals". That's akin to saying "he supports the Blacks" How many generations of racism do you come from?
Perhaps you are not "Illegal" and are a Native American? Otherwise, you are proving the point that ignorance and racism have embedded themselves firmly amongst us.
DK'08! or else numbskulls like this get their way.
RE: QtheMatrixx = So we should only "let in" those that come from money that have gained a college education and specialized skill, ignoring the masses that are willing to work here for pittance in order to improve our lives as Dry Cleaners, Maids, Gardeners etc? Smacks of ignorant racism, pal. Put your white hood back on and take a hike.
Q - so, is immigration policy the main reason you're not supporting Dennis Kucinich?
i mean, i'm glad that you're so concerned with medical treatment in Latin America.
but i'm just not sure you're aware, that the slippery-slope argument you followed up with, doesn't really cut it. and the ad hominem attacks are certainly not helping you. :D
I guess dennis shoulda bought a diner in Des Moines at some point? gee politics is complicated?freedom of speech but only if its approved by corporate headquarters ahead of time ?
Living in presently in Iowa I can assure you there is little to no mention of this Kucinich character and the voters here are gung-ho about any candidates visiting. I guess poor Dennis got lost in the mix. It's almost pointless to think voting will render any result in the people's favor but there is sill hope...I hope. Whoever you choose, choose wisely and never rely on mainstream media to help make up your mind.
it's not a conspiracy that Dennis was purposly left out of the debate for no good reason...it's not a conspiracy that the Democratic offices in Iowa showed no spine and no support for one of their own. Until we fix this lopsided system we will never have real freedom.
man, some people just see conspiracy everywhere.. no one cares about Denis Kucinich, certainly not enough people to have this massive effort to keep him from speaking. lol. It's not like he ever says anything so earth shattering that anyone would want to keep him from speaking.
The reason why 'people', as you so lovingly stated, do see conspiracy 'everywhere' is because there is conspiracy everywhere. Otherwise it wouldn't be called Conspiracy. The fact that not everyone can see it or refuses to notice means it is working exactly the way it is intended. How do you know he says nothing Earth shattering? Perhaps he is censored but that would be too below any government to undertake right?
How do I know he has nothing earth shattering to say? Because I have heard him in the debates, which were live, so he wasn't censored. I didn't think he had anything earth shattering to say. Since he barely registers in the polls, apparently millions of other people weren't impressed either. For the record, I don't believe government is below censorship. I just don't think Denis Kucinich is important enough to bother censoring.
Nice report, just demonstrates the conspiracy of silence of the corrupt, manipulated NWO system. If you don't play ball, accept contributions with strings attached, they won't let you in the game. The game is rigged, the managers are corrupt, and they are too ashamed to be on camera. Kucinich is the major champion of the 911-Truth movement, and if you don't comply with the masters of the universe, you will be excluded. Good expose!
As a person that lives in ohio trust me u didnt miss anything kucinich likes to run his mouth and say what everyone else should do but doesnt have any answers of how to do it hes been nothing but a wishy washy go with the flow ass. with that said i still agree it wasnt fare and he should have been allowed
Our country is being taken from us. We must defend the Constitution, it is our right, and our duty. The power brokers are using the media to deceive voters and thereby rig the election. This is not democratic, it is an coup attempt by the power brokers to take our country and our liberties from us. It is our duty, our obligation to save our nation. Join us!
In addition, they do not wish to let the people see all of the candidates should the "party" not agree with his platform.The "peoples" choice always doesn't count.Popular vote vs Electoral College..yeah sure. They have "their" choices made.Keep plugging whoever your choice.
Personally,I am a Ron Paul supporter.He was also excluded from a TV debate with no explaination. IF I voted Demo,Kucinich naturally would have been my choice.The media $ parties seat the "peoples" candidate in end chairs.The middle 3 are the ones they enhance pyscologically.
This is to all the nippleheads who say "If I wasn't supporting RP I'd be supporting DK" and vice versa... You people have to be the most ignorant in the electorate. RP and DK's views of the role of gov't are such polar opposites that to say you could support either/or is the height of ignorance.
I agree Kucinich and Paul are very different when it comes to the size of government in people's lives. Kucinich wants health care for all, while Paul wants huge government agencies to be dismantled. But isn't it possible that the people that go with either/or do so because on issues that are important to them, these two men agree?
And isn't it possible to that whether you agree with one or the other, you see two men that are honest and stick by their principles?
It is sad that this happened. Although I am not on the side of Dennis Kucinich, He is a very sincere good man, and this is not excusable. He should have been allowed to participate, just like he has in all of the other debates. Shame on the newspaper for such an injustice. Send this to CNN
They should have to print a full page ad apologizing. Think I will call the newspaper.
These 7 voted to kill Kucinich's bill on 11/6 to impeach Cheney, so they need to CHANGE their positions and fulfill their oath of office to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND domestic: Howard Berman (CA-28), Artur Davis (AL-07), William Delahunt (MA-10), Zoe Lofgren (CA-16), Jerrold Nadler (NY-08), Linda Sanchez (CA-39), and Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-20). Find them online and send emails, make phone calls; Put the pressure on for IMPEACHMENT!
I would like to see a video of Dennis answering the debate questions anyway....NONE of the candidates should be excluded...ever....for any trivial reason.
This came from another video from a mainstream source. However, that source did not go into any depth, and certainly did not interview folks, as you have.
Since there's neither a Mrs. Kucinich [the guy lives with mommy] and there's no girlfriend [he's double ugly], the smell must be coming from Dennis's rotten crotch.
Wow,39rc6cf your comment is quite possibly the most laughably inept one I have ever seen on Youtube. And there is so much competition! Well done! Search Youtube for "Elizabeth Kucinich" if you can work out how to, you remarkable moron.
Perhaps he was excluded because Fleetwood is too ignorant to see we have had a one party foreign policy for decades. Perhaps someone good in America said enough is enough and excluded him after his impeachment ruse. Perhaps if you can't see the one party system it does not matter.
Funny thing how negative people are against camera. Not mention how speechless they go when you ask about this Dennis guy's officer. I found it kinda funny.
Regarding the election, sure, I'll probably vote... it has no cost, and has no benefit, so it is not stressful and it is amusing.
Voting in phony elections does have a cost to society, but they don't seem to mind. It perpetuates the myth that we live in a free society with unrigged elections.
I like his politics, but Kucinich really should pull out. Not only did he not stand a chance 4 years ago, he said that he saw a ufo. He has no possibility of being elected, and only embarrases the real candidates.
who gives a shit if he saw an unidentified flying object? seriously. why don't you talk about something noteworthy instead of trying to knock kucinich down based on trivial bullshit.
he's the only candidate FOR the people and BY the people. Ron Paul only pretends to.
Gee, you know, the last 10 or so comments you made on this video weren't very convincing; this one, however, finally made me realize how crazy I was. Thank you!
was martin luther king an idealist? what about the women's suffrage movement? was that idealistic?
kucinich has a vision-a practical one, too. healthcare for all. education for all. never using war as an instrument of policy. trading fairly. out of NAFTA. out of iraq immediately.
these things are not impossible at all. it's about time start fighting for them.
And Hillary took crapload of money from the HEALTH INSURANCE companies and voted to authorize the Iraq War... And who are YOU more embarassed by? I wouldn't care if he said he saw a dozen UFO's with Santa Claus and a robot. And some people think they should elect John Edwards because he's white has a nice haircut. Fuck what you and the media think his chances are.
Parties USUALLY have nothing to do with debates. That is how it has almost always been.
This is why the Commission for Presidential Debates exists: the Rep and Dem parties wanted to control the debates, instead of allowing third parties like the LWV and newspapers and TV stations to do it.
And now, thanks to the CPD, the debates in the general are *more closed than ever.* So I am glad the parties don't control it, even though I think DK should have been in this debate.
des moines register..- LIBERAL media at it's worst!
a moderator who would NOT allow discussion of important events like iraq, immigration, and who asked loaded questions to illicit a negative light towards rep's.
the show of hands was like asking a controlled question like:
How very liberal of them, not including Dennis. In your calculation, if Dennis is a Liberal Kook, and the Register is the Liberal media, shouldn't they include him?
No they aren't. The people who think the government can't do shit are conservatives, the personal-freedoms crowd. Sure, liberals think the government could do a better job, but that's very different. So who's your candidate, having a field day?
Probably most admired politician for me (now) is Joe Lieberman.
1.Someone who understands how things work, has a record of accomplishment the sewer/ Washington.
2.understand the serious threat from a dedicated, ruthless, enemy, eager to kill themselves, their own kids, and countless innocent women and children, for just the chance to kill anyone that dares believe differently than they!
3.Someone that puts what's best for the country ahead of his own agenda, or some party affiliation.
Lieberman = the Republican's Democrat. What a joke! Lieberman should just tell us all the truth - that he's REPUBLICAN who could care less about us real people (i.e. people that make less than six figures a year!) He's the real NUT job!
"2. ..... a dedicated, ruthless, enemy, eager to kill...countless innocent women and children, for just the chance to kill anyone that dares believe differently than they!"-----
...sounds like a lot of U.S. government foreign policy!
The facts, what facts? And I still dare you to mention just WHEN Dennis ever mentioned flying saucers. Your imagination's added those...proudamerican home phone.
Socialism - health care for people, concern for workers not CEOs, concern for others regardless of backround...
Capitalism - Concern for no one. Which of these sounds more CHRISTIAN to you? Doesn't that make you proud to be an American capitalist? Seen any UFOs lately?
Very funny. So why are 39% of Americans in favor of imeaching not just Cheney, but Bush, too? They must be you, idealistic fools. 120 million of them.
Some of us old, jaded, nearly-despairing fools buy it because in spite of all the evidence we just can't see to go ahead and give up hope completely...AND WE KNOW...and we know that the ONLY HOPE LEFT for this country is to loudly and utterly DENOUNCE what has been done in and by and to the United States in the last six years. If we don't, this nation deserves exactly what it will be getting.
What are you, some antagonistic Ron Paul brat? Clearly Kucinich didn't raise close to Paul's $6 million... even if he raised $150k for the day, that's a significant chunk of change for a grassroots candidate.
Nothing against Ron Paul. But you, my friend, can shut your fat mouth and stop being a hater. Have you tried calling the official campaign? I'm sure they'll be friendly about it.
Ooooo, you're soooo mysterious, not divulging who you are supporting. I'd respect you even less were you a Clinton or Obama supporter rather than for Paul.
I only assumed you may support Paul because you are being such an ASS about Kucinich's mass donation day, which was immediately followed by Paul's monumental fundraiser.
im1proudamerican your pride should be crushed for that last comment. The fact is that americans with your mentallity are the reason that we had 2 "KOOKS"(Bush, Kerry) running for president in the last election. "FRINGE CANDIDATES" is a term that the MSM uses to TRY to impair our judgement. Which obviously has happend to you.
For people (Davis and friends) who claim to be "Truthseekers" I don't hear too many of you reporting the "truth" about how much Dennis raised for his money bomb.
Aren't you proud of how much you helped him raise, whether it be a lot or a little?
Yea this is BS...I'm a paul supporter and i like Kuccinich and I'M wondering was their a bias to certain candidates? Were adding alan to make republicans more hype and cause more talk? And not letting Dennis Kuccinich and Mike Gravel to participate..This is messed up..Keep us informed about the answers they will give you
Sorry for your exclusion Kucinich, Davis Fleetwood would probably have suggested that you show up anyway and throw a fit when they don't give you a microphone and a pedestal, and see what happens.
Yes, yes, it is. And even more sad is I just found out Christopher Columbus committed genocide of the Arawak peoples he encountered. There may have been as many as 8 million, peaceful, gift-bringing human beings wiped out by someone we think of as a "hero". That's the Old Boys Club version of history.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. Or questioning, more accurately, and the question is: Are there any people in the public eye who are courageous enough to answer the HARD questions? Stonewalling, at its finest. Discouraging.
Don't get me wrong, I like Kucinich. And whoever let Alan Keyes participate should lose their job, but wtf, were you trying to do a michael moore impersonation? The dude from the register told you exactly the information you needed to follow up (at Iowa Public Television) like 3 times, and you just didn't seem to get it. Then you went to the Iowa Democratic Party office for some reason, instead of going to IPT and made yourself look like more of a moron. Good job, dufus.
So that means you just go somewhere unrelated and ask someone something that they have no direct knowledge of. That seems like pretty cheesy journalism to me.
Look, I respect the intention of your piece. Kucinich should have be allowed to participate. It's not fair how Main Stream Media treats candidates it has decided are not front-runners. I sympathize, I support Ron Paul. I just don't appreciate how you went about trying to make (and failing to prove) your point.
I said the democratic party of Iowa chick was unrelated, (which she said herself) not the register. Obviously the register was related, they sponsored it. That does not mean, however that that is there main focus. Obviously it's not, and that probably 99% of the employees of that newspaper were not involved in any way with the debate. (Like the people you met at the Register)
That guy was like the managing editor! He demanded to speak to someone who WAS involved in the Debate, and he was willing to wait. Apparently, according to your thesis, neither the Register NOR the Iowa Democratic party had ANYONE who was involved making decisions about the debate or had any knowledge of it.
First of all, he didn't demand to speak to someone who WAS involved in the debate, he demanded to "speak to someone who could speak for the Register." And as the register only sponsored the debate. That's like asking Nike why certain decisions were made at the Olympics because they paid to have their logo there.
And if you want to know my thesis, it's there to read, I suggest you do it again, that's not what I said.
So who WAS doing the organization? The TV network, who told them to go to the Register? SO everyone is deflecting blame. But the thing is, someone is responsile for this sh*t, and everyone should support an effort to find out who. If they cover their asses, it was probably them. If you don't have anything to hide, you don't tell anyone to turn the camera off...
Well IPTV did not tell him to go to the Register, but other than that I totally agree with you. Somebody screwed up, or is being completely unfair. There is no reason Kucinich shouldn't be allowed to participate. He's a legitimate candidate who's even placed first in an Iowa poll. Much more than I can say for Alan Keyes who proved himself to be a joke on the one debate he was allowed to be on.
Actually, this being a huge, HUGE, event, bringing THEM to the center of national attention for a week, it probably WAS their main focus, wouldn't you think?
How can all these people not know the answers? They claimed they don't, yet are top personnel belonging to organizations that played a major role. They SHOULD know, if they were doing their job right!
Ok, your top personnel/all these people are two people, one girl at the front desk and one middle management (or whatever) guy at a newspaper who obviously had no role in the debate. The debate was sponsored by the register and the editor was the moderator. From what I can tell, the people who actually ran it were at IPTV, where Davis Fleetwood was told to go to get his questions answered. Why didn't he go there?
Watch it again, nobody told him to go to the register.
The chick at IPTV said she couldn't get press credentials at that time or something like that and then he did a voice over saying men in dark suits with earpieces kicked him out. If he had a camera that was rolling at the time, why didn't we see that? And why would would a PBS station have secret service-typed security?
He was told to turn off the camera, which is why we will never know what happened, except for what he tells us. But he posted earlier that they HAD told him to go to the register.
@saucypuck notice how he didn't respond entirely to your comment either. Just the sercret service part... Which still has yet to be seen on the video...like you said... this dude is completely whack.
Gotta say--this them, SOO-oft echoed here, is pretty silly to some of us who have watched such "mine-is-bigger-than-yours" posturing with amusement and /or annoyance for forever....The thing is, it's the same mentality that has brought us, "Guantanimo" and "I'm the Decider" and "You want to see World War III?"----ENOUGH, already?!
I made a comment and got two reponses in my e mail and they were in german and took me to a german version of this. That was weird. Now my comment seems to be gone as well. Anybody know why?
Thank you, LevanahMoon. I have heard Naomi Wolf interviewed on several alternative news programs. She has done a great job in delineating how the US has followed the classic path to fascism. All we need is a couple of more factors--terror attacks or financial meltdown--and we'll arrive at the full-fledged form.
RE: fascism, or more broadly, totalitarianism--PLEASE read THE END OF AMERICA, by Naomi Wolf, NOW! There is a virtual playbook followed by every totalitarian state arisen in the 20th centure, and the United States has been following each step and has progressed pretty far along the path. This is NOT hysteria, just a calm observation of concrete events. It may look slightly different from one place to the next, but at heart, it is the same. Wolf calmly outlines it.
What a waste of time on both my part for watching this, and on your part. You were asking the wrong people....the entire time! That's like going to Lowes for a problem you had at Home Depot. WTF?
novakane87 1 year ago
I am so pissed about this crap, especially at the end!
hulk12078 2 years ago
yeah, he points out a double standard as far as pubs and dems go. 100 percent legit. kucinich was banned just to shut his opinion off from millions of potential
citizens, period.
zrac09 2 years ago
shame he pulled out of the democratic nominations. Just goes to show that the Democrats are as manipulated by the corporate puppet masters as the Republicans. Fortunately RALPH NADER is still running, for those of you that care, do the research. He is older, wiser and never sold out. He has parallel views to this fellow, the intelligence, determination and stamina to get the job done. PLEASE GIVE HIM REAL AND SERIOUS CONSIDERATION FOR AMERICA"S SAKE (AND THE REST OF THE WORLD)!!!!!
ergotilt 3 years ago
I really hope both man in some way work together to make the whole "change movement" for the government work. I actually admire Kucinich's bold & courageous fight with e other candidates 4 his values. Very much like Ron Paul did.I am a supporter of Ron Paul, but I really hope they can work something out to help each other. Its not who to b e president, but get e government back 2 constitution. Its a long term fight, that way we call it a Revolution. Join in the revolution.
LeeKwangEng 4 years ago
All voices should be heard, no matter how small they are. It doesn't matter if it's Ron Paul which I support or John McCain which I don't at all, every candidate should get an equal voice so their opinions can be heard. The media is so biased and unfair that it influences who gets into office more than the voters themselves.
ChaosKnightXD 4 years ago 2
I don't understand-- The lady that spoke for the Iowa Democratic Party said that "there are things beyond their control". Dennis is a DEMOCRATIC presidential candidate. Is that so beyond their control? What's the problem?
tbg538 4 years ago
Kucinich spoke up, and is speaking up, regarding the 'bought and paid for' media crowning winners, instead of the people making up their own minds.
Don't let the media make up your mind.
Listen to the Bill Moyers interview with both Kucinich and Paul, if education is something you are interested in.
Wolfiemouse 4 years ago 3
Dennis K was excluded from the Iowa debate for the simple fact he didnt speak up when Mike Gravel was being excluded 3 debates prior, his silence to the corruption lead to him being wrong excluded as well. However if Dennis K. would have shown some leadership and informed the public what was going on, he as well as Gravel might be in the debates today.
kyeot 4 years ago
You'll be living in a nightmare if you think the repubs and dens have a different agenda .. Zzzzz... bahhh, bahhhh!
I believe in the constitution, not corporate greed. I believe the people need to control the government, not vice versa. Anyone who thinks it's okay to give up their sons and daughters for power hungry, flip-flopping candidates & war mongers should be ashamed of themselves - after they wake up and find theirselves jobless and with paper money that isn't backed up by squat.
Oneblend 4 years ago 4
Kucinich supporters should vote Ron Paul - not Obama. Obama is for "corporate interests" like the rest of them. What slays me more is he is willing to stay in IraQ "until we win". Ron Paul's views are in line with Kucinich. Democrats for Ron Paul here.
Oneblend 4 years ago 2
The more I watch Ron Paul I think that you may be right...
thecosmos003 4 years ago
maybe im crazy but kucinich supporters should vote kucinich and fight to get him on the ballot not just accept paul as a sub though i do like ron paul kucinich is right on not only political but social issues
krissy4nik 4 years ago 2
Obama '08
Christoffeltje 4 years ago
I am for Ron Paul, and this is the reason,
The media is trying to keep out freedom fighters and anti war candidates.
They promote socialists.
I believe Dennis Kucinich is better for our country than all the other Democrats.
skipastar1 4 years ago
I AM with Kucinich, even after the Iowa caucus...BUT I would also walk away from this guy, he is SO annoying
MsDeity 4 years ago
IOWA CAUCUS RESULTS:
Obama: 38%
Edwards: 30%
Clinton: 29%
Richardson: 2%
Gravel, Biden, Dodd and KUCINICH received the remaining 1%...
For those of you who can't do math, that's less than 1% for Kucinich.
You guys keep taking the country by storm though...
dameiken 4 years ago
...the same reason Ron Paul got excluded: He stands no chance of winning. This is the real world, not ideologue fantasy camp. No one is censoring Kucinich, you can find his silly rants everywhere online and in magazines. He's just not a serious contender for president, we want to hear from those who are at this debate.
SemperLieSuckah 4 years ago
yaaay ideologues
vincristine777 4 years ago
Paul got 10%, more than doubled the amount of votes Giuliani got, and he gets more money from the Armed Forces that any other candidate (which judging from your username might be of use to you). I think it's apparents now that FOX has been forced to rethink their position, at least a little. By your logic, shouldn't Giuliani have been expcluded based on Iowa's results?
shizaquawn 4 years ago 2
Giuliani intentionally did not campaign in Iowa. That was kind of a big deal. No one expected him to make a Top-2 finish, and skipping Iowa added to that. I've heard the claim that he has more military donors than any candidate, but I haven't seen the figures to back that up. Either way, his positions are ridiculous especially regarding the military and military readiness.
foxxxybrowneyes 4 years ago
Iowa did kucinich a favor in my opinion. That man has the weakest debate ability I've ever seen.
Moreover, for those mentally challenged among you, talking about democracy, they didn't keep him off the ballot, he just wasn't allowed into the debate. People will still be allowed to vote for him.
dameiken 4 years ago
Ron Paul has more veteran and active military donors. You can check it out on his web site.
Oneblend 4 years ago
This is the 'democracy' America wants to spread all over the world???!
HA... WHAT A JOKE! .. I don't think they want it somehow.
If America was full of Kenyans there'd be rioting in the streets!!!
janebusby 4 years ago 2
... and they call this Great Nation a
DEMOCRACY?
Let IOWA local citizens have their freedom of choice to decide.
whadaphoc 4 years ago
Dennis is the only politician who demands the Impeachment of the retarded vice president
homeborn 4 years ago 3
Did you really expect to walk in to the Des Moines register and get a quote on camera? Nobody, no institution, no company, no business will give you a quote on camera unannounced. It's not crazy, it's not abnormal. not to detract from your main point, but I think it's unfair to insinuate that the editor was being a jerk or flippant when he was doing what anybody approached point blank would do. AT least, thats how it seemed it was portrayed to me
cowboysoultaker 4 years ago
Of course he didn't but there are enough people who sympathize sitting at their computer monitors saying "Yeah man, look at that capitalist, facist pig ignoring his questions, when Davis is totally harassing him. He's trying to hold us down man! Right on Davis!"
That guy could have given him a real answer, or he could have no been present at all. It would have all been part of the conspiracy. Damned no matter what.
dameiken 4 years ago
Harassing him how???? What's wrong with asking a couple of questions??? This is a big deal. They should be damned for making such a decision. Has nothing to do with this bs after the fact.
catbuffalo 4 years ago
Get out of Iowa!
Pokygirl2001 4 years ago
The SC Primary allows one party to vote for the others, So Democrats you can vote R Jan 19th.
Ron Paul has been kicked out of the NH debate by Fox 'News'. NH polls has Paul at around 8% too, he should have a voice.
Ron Paul 8%
Fred Thompson 3%
Duncan Hunter 0%
Alan Keyes 0%
Guess who will be at the debate Jan 6th.
We are all Americans first and democracy needs us more than ever!
Elk2020 4 years ago 3
Fox News has nothing to do with who is or isn't participating in this forum. They are only carrying the broadcast. The NH republican party is responsible for who is or isn't invited.
StinkpipeJohnson 4 years ago
Actually he carried 10%.
Oneblend 4 years ago
Dennis and Elizabeth attack the American people everyday by trying to advance their crackpot Marxist policies on them. Why would you think they would object to their brainwashed following doing the same?
taintpainter77 4 years ago
Why do people that say they agree with Dennis Kunich and his ideas continue to attack others opinions on these comments?
Not sure that Dennis and Elizabeth agree with the way you people are attacking each other.
EricClaptonsGuitar 4 years ago
Dennis supports the illegals and he is for slave raperations... Enough said!
luphole 4 years ago
Re: "lup-hole": You said he "Supports the illegals". That's akin to saying "he supports the Blacks" How many generations of racism do you come from?
Perhaps you are not "Illegal" and are a Native American? Otherwise, you are proving the point that ignorance and racism have embedded themselves firmly amongst us.
DK'08! or else numbskulls like this get their way.
Dutchoven08 4 years ago 2
Finally, someone with REAL brains! Hooray for DK! Dennis in 08!!! Impeach Cheney AND that idiot Bush too! DK all the way!
subbassone1 4 years ago
Hey, OtherMatrixx, if you are LDS, you are dumb.
If you are not LDS, you are even dumber.
And if you think you are both LDS and not LDS, you are dumbest.
And still don't know Jack Shit.
mopsius 4 years ago
The next time in Iowa, be armed to the teeth. If there is a next time.
In the meantime we will build a movement.
mopsius 4 years ago
Boycott Iowa!
mopsius 4 years ago
Hey,Mr. Fleetwood, look carefully around Des Moines, did you?
See that gold dome.
It's telling you something.
In Iowa, whatever they say and whatever Bible they beat, it's all about money.
mopsius 4 years ago
Then there's the long ago president of Radcliffe introduced to a corn-fed young lady just entering the college from the land of Moo.
"Where are you from, my dear?"
"I am from Iowa, Ma'm."
"My dear, here it is pronounced Indiana."
mopsius 4 years ago
Then there's Nabokov in Lolita, the immortal quip about "driving through three states beginning with 'I'."
mopsius 4 years ago
Got time for a novel?
I haven't at the moment.
But heading the list is Jane Smiley's Moo.
Find a good review.
Mine was head to head from someone who knows.
mopsius 4 years ago
"is this hell?"
"no, it's iowa."
brainsplatty 4 years ago
What's the difference between Iowa and yogurt?
Yogurt has culture.
Moooooooo...
mopsius 4 years ago
Q - what on earth gave you the impression i was worried about you? :D
you're very amusing indeed.
my15minutes 4 years ago 2
RE: RAIK27 = Send the campaign a self-portrait, maybe they can find a use for another bewildered, mind-numbed mainstreamer like yourself.
DK'08
Take back corporate run media that is dumbing down the brains of our populace like this numbskull.
Dutchoven08 4 years ago 2
RE: QtheMatrixx = So we should only "let in" those that come from money that have gained a college education and specialized skill, ignoring the masses that are willing to work here for pittance in order to improve our lives as Dry Cleaners, Maids, Gardeners etc? Smacks of ignorant racism, pal. Put your white hood back on and take a hike.
Dutchoven08 4 years ago 2
Q - so, is immigration policy the main reason you're not supporting Dennis Kucinich?
i mean, i'm glad that you're so concerned with medical treatment in Latin America.
but i'm just not sure you're aware, that the slippery-slope argument you followed up with, doesn't really cut it. and the ad hominem attacks are certainly not helping you. :D
my15minutes 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Its K-O-O-K-cinich .. sorry folks, not enough space aliens in Iowa to put this loser over the top .. facts is facts LOL
roscoe85cj 4 years ago
I guess dennis shoulda bought a diner in Des Moines at some point? gee politics is complicated?freedom of speech but only if its approved by corporate headquarters ahead of time ?
srofficial06 4 years ago 4
Living in presently in Iowa I can assure you there is little to no mention of this Kucinich character and the voters here are gung-ho about any candidates visiting. I guess poor Dennis got lost in the mix. It's almost pointless to think voting will render any result in the people's favor but there is sill hope...I hope. Whoever you choose, choose wisely and never rely on mainstream media to help make up your mind.
Aubbieuni 4 years ago
it's not a conspiracy that Dennis was purposly left out of the debate for no good reason...it's not a conspiracy that the Democratic offices in Iowa showed no spine and no support for one of their own. Until we fix this lopsided system we will never have real freedom.
Dahgrostabphri 4 years ago 3
man, some people just see conspiracy everywhere.. no one cares about Denis Kucinich, certainly not enough people to have this massive effort to keep him from speaking. lol. It's not like he ever says anything so earth shattering that anyone would want to keep him from speaking.
greenblue5 4 years ago
The reason why 'people', as you so lovingly stated, do see conspiracy 'everywhere' is because there is conspiracy everywhere. Otherwise it wouldn't be called Conspiracy. The fact that not everyone can see it or refuses to notice means it is working exactly the way it is intended. How do you know he says nothing Earth shattering? Perhaps he is censored but that would be too below any government to undertake right?
Aubbieuni 4 years ago
How do I know he has nothing earth shattering to say? Because I have heard him in the debates, which were live, so he wasn't censored. I didn't think he had anything earth shattering to say. Since he barely registers in the polls, apparently millions of other people weren't impressed either. For the record, I don't believe government is below censorship. I just don't think Denis Kucinich is important enough to bother censoring.
greenblue5 4 years ago
Nice report, just demonstrates the conspiracy of silence of the corrupt, manipulated NWO system. If you don't play ball, accept contributions with strings attached, they won't let you in the game. The game is rigged, the managers are corrupt, and they are too ashamed to be on camera. Kucinich is the major champion of the 911-Truth movement, and if you don't comply with the masters of the universe, you will be excluded. Good expose!
DawsonLodge 4 years ago 3
As a person that lives in ohio trust me u didnt miss anything kucinich likes to run his mouth and say what everyone else should do but doesnt have any answers of how to do it hes been nothing but a wishy washy go with the flow ass. with that said i still agree it wasnt fare and he should have been allowed
poochucker007 4 years ago
Our country is being taken from us. We must defend the Constitution, it is our right, and our duty. The power brokers are using the media to deceive voters and thereby rig the election. This is not democratic, it is an coup attempt by the power brokers to take our country and our liberties from us. It is our duty, our obligation to save our nation. Join us!
rldipaolo 4 years ago
In addition, they do not wish to let the people see all of the candidates should the "party" not agree with his platform.The "peoples" choice always doesn't count.Popular vote vs Electoral College..yeah sure. They have "their" choices made.Keep plugging whoever your choice.
Firep0w3r 4 years ago
Personally,I am a Ron Paul supporter.He was also excluded from a TV debate with no explaination. IF I voted Demo,Kucinich naturally would have been my choice.The media $ parties seat the "peoples" candidate in end chairs.The middle 3 are the ones they enhance pyscologically.
Firep0w3r 4 years ago
This is to all the nippleheads who say "If I wasn't supporting RP I'd be supporting DK" and vice versa... You people have to be the most ignorant in the electorate. RP and DK's views of the role of gov't are such polar opposites that to say you could support either/or is the height of ignorance.
taintpainter77 4 years ago
Really? So which one is for staying with NAFTA or the WTO?
Which one is for Military force in shaping world politics?
Which one is for keeping the Patriot Act?
nihilist99 4 years ago
I agree Kucinich and Paul are very different when it comes to the size of government in people's lives. Kucinich wants health care for all, while Paul wants huge government agencies to be dismantled. But isn't it possible that the people that go with either/or do so because on issues that are important to them, these two men agree?
And isn't it possible to that whether you agree with one or the other, you see two men that are honest and stick by their principles?
nihilist99 4 years ago 2
It is sad that this happened. Although I am not on the side of Dennis Kucinich, He is a very sincere good man, and this is not excusable. He should have been allowed to participate, just like he has in all of the other debates. Shame on the newspaper for such an injustice. Send this to CNN
They should have to print a full page ad apologizing. Think I will call the newspaper.
SparklestheClown
SparklestheClown 4 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
These 7 voted to kill Kucinich's bill on 11/6 to impeach Cheney, so they need to CHANGE their positions and fulfill their oath of office to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND domestic: Howard Berman (CA-28), Artur Davis (AL-07), William Delahunt (MA-10), Zoe Lofgren (CA-16), Jerrold Nadler (NY-08), Linda Sanchez (CA-39), and Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-20). Find them online and send emails, make phone calls; Put the pressure on for IMPEACHMENT!
wiskawind 4 years ago
Why does the Iowa Democratic Party have nothing to do with the debate?! Who's going to have something to do with the counting of the votes?
jonh2o 4 years ago 2
Those assholes excluded Dennis for no reason.
Nicoleiia 4 years ago
Good video but you need to balance your audio a little better. It's all over the place.
SuicideFriendly 4 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
kucinich is a socialist, surrender monkey, who's laughable candidacy will be LONG GONE the wed's after super Tues.
Thank God! don't need flying saucer pilots like him.
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
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votefraud(dot)org
cmoleon 4 years ago
I would like to see a video of Dennis answering the debate questions anyway....NONE of the candidates should be excluded...ever....for any trivial reason.
april4kucinich 4 years ago 3
Or, watching the video, perhaps I am wrong :)
JohnNoZ35 4 years ago
You have to have at least 1% in the Register polls and have an office and staffer in Iowa.
Kucinich reportedly did not reach 1% in the polls.
Alan Keyes focused almost all his effort on Iowa. He has more than 1% and he does have an office.
I like Kucinich. He speaks much truth very bravely. He and Dodd should be the leading democrat candidates.
JohnNoZ35 4 years ago
This came from another video from a mainstream source. However, that source did not go into any depth, and certainly did not interview folks, as you have.
JohnNoZ35 4 years ago
JONHNOZ35:
1. ALAN KEYS HAS NOT ONE SINGLE OFFICE IN IOWA-
Go ahead- call information.
Google it.
Yellow page it- whatever.
2. Kucinich is polling AHEAD of Dodd in IOWA
davisfleetwood 4 years ago
JONHNOZ35:
1. ALAN KEYS HAS NOT ONE SINGLE OFFICE IN IOWA-
Go ahead- call information.
Google it.
Yellow page it- whatever.
---------------------------------------------
You can't find one on GOOGLE because you can't spell his name correctly. It's KEYES. You idiot.
39rc6cf 4 years ago
something smells fishy!
fordsmith 4 years ago
something smells fishy!
------------------------------------------------
Since there's neither a Mrs. Kucinich [the guy lives with mommy] and there's no girlfriend [he's double ugly], the smell must be coming from Dennis's rotten crotch.
39rc6cf 4 years ago
Wow,39rc6cf your comment is quite possibly the most laughably inept one I have ever seen on Youtube. And there is so much competition! Well done! Search Youtube for "Elizabeth Kucinich" if you can work out how to, you remarkable moron.
queny2 4 years ago 2
Perhaps he was excluded because Fleetwood is too ignorant to see we have had a one party foreign policy for decades. Perhaps someone good in America said enough is enough and excluded him after his impeachment ruse. Perhaps if you can't see the one party system it does not matter.
J1Goro 4 years ago
Did I hear that correct IPTV?
Theres got to be something in the name here
Or am I the only person on earth that see the irony here
DocHolliday92966 4 years ago
Funny thing how negative people are against camera. Not mention how speechless they go when you ask about this Dennis guy's officer. I found it kinda funny.
Bastiest 4 years ago
Regarding the election, sure, I'll probably vote... it has no cost, and has no benefit, so it is not stressful and it is amusing.
Voting in phony elections does have a cost to society, but they don't seem to mind. It perpetuates the myth that we live in a free society with unrigged elections.
ToddBoyle 4 years ago
I like his politics, but Kucinich really should pull out. Not only did he not stand a chance 4 years ago, he said that he saw a ufo. He has no possibility of being elected, and only embarrases the real candidates.
DeathPendant 4 years ago
who gives a shit if he saw an unidentified flying object? seriously. why don't you talk about something noteworthy instead of trying to knock kucinich down based on trivial bullshit.
he's the only candidate FOR the people and BY the people. Ron Paul only pretends to.
yeah. thanks.
ellenloveseverything 4 years ago 4
KOOK FRINGE - kucinich
idealistic fools - kucinich supporters
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
Gee, you know, the last 10 or so comments you made on this video weren't very convincing; this one, however, finally made me realize how crazy I was. Thank you!
danelrey77 4 years ago
like i said...
use your intellect and then comment.
was martin luther king an idealist? what about the women's suffrage movement? was that idealistic?
kucinich has a vision-a practical one, too. healthcare for all. education for all. never using war as an instrument of policy. trading fairly. out of NAFTA. out of iraq immediately.
these things are not impossible at all. it's about time start fighting for them.
ellenloveseverything 4 years ago 2
im1veryproudamerican......
ur1veryembarrassingamerican2me
LevanahMoon 4 years ago
Reagan saw a UFO twice. I guess you have to see one for each term you spend in office.
queny2 4 years ago
How is he an embarassment?
Brandt761 4 years ago
And Hillary took crapload of money from the HEALTH INSURANCE companies and voted to authorize the Iraq War... And who are YOU more embarassed by? I wouldn't care if he said he saw a dozen UFO's with Santa Claus and a robot. And some people think they should elect John Edwards because he's white has a nice haircut. Fuck what you and the media think his chances are.
subbassone1 4 years ago 2
Parties USUALLY have nothing to do with debates. That is how it has almost always been.
This is why the Commission for Presidential Debates exists: the Rep and Dem parties wanted to control the debates, instead of allowing third parties like the LWV and newspapers and TV stations to do it.
And now, thanks to the CPD, the debates in the general are *more closed than ever.* So I am glad the parties don't control it, even though I think DK should have been in this debate.
pudgenet 4 years ago
des moines register..- LIBERAL media at it's worst!
a moderator who would NOT allow discussion of important events like iraq, immigration, and who asked loaded questions to illicit a negative light towards rep's.
the show of hands was like asking a controlled question like:
have you ever been caught masturbating?
lose/lose type quest.
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
How very liberal of them, not including Dennis. In your calculation, if Dennis is a Liberal Kook, and the Register is the Liberal media, shouldn't they include him?
Brandt761 4 years ago 2
i'm back...
box778899 4 years ago
because he's fucking crazy...
box778899 4 years ago
KUCINICH didn't attend a Bilderberg meeting :(
desire4liberation 4 years ago
Cracks me up that the very same people that scream and shout about how government is f*cking up this...or that...can NOT do anything right!
line up like sheep, and DEMAND the government be in charge of their health!
BBWWAAhahahahahahahahaha
candidates like a paul or a kucinich have a field day with the young and idealistics....
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
No they aren't. The people who think the government can't do shit are conservatives, the personal-freedoms crowd. Sure, liberals think the government could do a better job, but that's very different. So who's your candidate, having a field day?
Brandt761 4 years ago
Probably most admired politician for me (now) is Joe Lieberman.
1.Someone who understands how things work, has a record of accomplishment the sewer/ Washington.
2.understand the serious threat from a dedicated, ruthless, enemy, eager to kill themselves, their own kids, and countless innocent women and children, for just the chance to kill anyone that dares believe differently than they!
3.Someone that puts what's best for the country ahead of his own agenda, or some party affiliation.
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
Uh, yeah, he cares so little for his own success. Lieberman...
Brandt761 4 years ago
Lieberman, stood tall and spoke from his gut with regards to the terrible threat islamic jihadists pose.
his own party (the very ones that vaulted him to their V/P title a couple years ago) tried to kill his career, ruin his lifes work,
he agains stood tall, faught back, and won!
(which, when your fighting democrats, is pretty easy stuffs)
dem's stand for NOTHING...except getting elected!
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
Islamic Jihadists are not as big a threat as lieberman claims. Bush's idea of bombing iran is much more dangerous.
Brandt761 4 years ago
Besides, he should talk from his Brain.
Brandt761 4 years ago
Lieberman = the Republican's Democrat. What a joke! Lieberman should just tell us all the truth - that he's REPUBLICAN who could care less about us real people (i.e. people that make less than six figures a year!) He's the real NUT job!
subbassone1 4 years ago
"2. ..... a dedicated, ruthless, enemy, eager to kill...countless innocent women and children, for just the chance to kill anyone that dares believe differently than they!"-----
...sounds like a lot of U.S. government foreign policy!
LevanahMoon 4 years ago
I'd also like to add that I called Iowa Public Television and asked why he was excluded. They said " Because he's a creepy little communist."
taintpainter77 4 years ago
actually...HE'S A WHACKED OUT, FLYING SAUCER SEEING SOCIALIST! (not a lot different than the facts you show, but a distinction,..just sayin)
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
The facts, what facts? And I still dare you to mention just WHEN Dennis ever mentioned flying saucers. Your imagination's added those...proudamerican home phone.
Brandt761 4 years ago
Socialism - health care for people, concern for workers not CEOs, concern for others regardless of backround...
Capitalism - Concern for no one. Which of these sounds more CHRISTIAN to you? Doesn't that make you proud to be an American capitalist? Seen any UFOs lately?
subbassone1 4 years ago
SOCIALISM
taking away from those who work, are productive, and PRODUCE
and giving to those, who DO NOT!
It's a great way to get elected, as human nature likes and responds to "sumin fer nuttin" mentality! circa/Hewey Long
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
Liar...even FOX wouldn't go out and say that themselves.
Brandt761 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
why would any network bother with a socialist, whack-job like kucinich?
his impeachment talk was utter B/S spewed only to curry favor with the loony left
he knows full well that there will be NO impeaching, and young, naive, idealistic fools buy it...hook, line, and sinker!
ahahahahahahaha
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
Very funny. So why are 39% of Americans in favor of imeaching not just Cheney, but Bush, too? They must be you, idealistic fools. 120 million of them.
Brandt761 4 years ago 3
Some of us old, jaded, nearly-despairing fools buy it because in spite of all the evidence we just can't see to go ahead and give up hope completely...AND WE KNOW...and we know that the ONLY HOPE LEFT for this country is to loudly and utterly DENOUNCE what has been done in and by and to the United States in the last six years. If we don't, this nation deserves exactly what it will be getting.
LevanahMoon 4 years ago
sorry for this news...
Gilliatt83 4 years ago 2
How about full disclosure of the results of the Kucinich money bomb.
Or is full disclosure only something you demand of others?
taintpainter77 4 years ago
Don't be a douche.
What are you, some antagonistic Ron Paul brat? Clearly Kucinich didn't raise close to Paul's $6 million... even if he raised $150k for the day, that's a significant chunk of change for a grassroots candidate.
Nothing against Ron Paul. But you, my friend, can shut your fat mouth and stop being a hater. Have you tried calling the official campaign? I'm sure they'll be friendly about it.
PeaceCzar 4 years ago 4
I haven't said on any message boards whom I'm supporting. For all you know, I could be a Clinton or Obama supporter.
Just because I point out the differences between Paul and Kucinich doesn't mean I'm supporting Paul.
taintpainter77 4 years ago
Ooooo, you're soooo mysterious, not divulging who you are supporting. I'd respect you even less were you a Clinton or Obama supporter rather than for Paul.
I only assumed you may support Paul because you are being such an ASS about Kucinich's mass donation day, which was immediately followed by Paul's monumental fundraiser.
PeaceCzar 4 years ago 2
Again, no disrespect to Ron Paul and his non-grating supporters.
PeaceCzar 4 years ago
Sad that real statesmen like Kuccinich, Gravel, and to a somewhat lesser extent Ron Pual are treated like this.
julianhpike 4 years ago
the SAD (for you), reality is, they are kook fringe candidates. long gone after super tuesday...(thank god)
im1veryproudamerican 4 years ago
im1proudamerican your pride should be crushed for that last comment. The fact is that americans with your mentallity are the reason that we had 2 "KOOKS"(Bush, Kerry) running for president in the last election. "FRINGE CANDIDATES" is a term that the MSM uses to TRY to impair our judgement. Which obviously has happend to you.
jarneck78 4 years ago 2
For people (Davis and friends) who claim to be "Truthseekers" I don't hear too many of you reporting the "truth" about how much Dennis raised for his money bomb.
Aren't you proud of how much you helped him raise, whether it be a lot or a little?
taintpainter77 4 years ago
Yea this is BS...I'm a paul supporter and i like Kuccinich and I'M wondering was their a bias to certain candidates? Were adding alan to make republicans more hype and cause more talk? And not letting Dennis Kuccinich and Mike Gravel to participate..This is messed up..Keep us informed about the answers they will give you
benjie2429 4 years ago 2
that's weak.
zornlove 4 years ago
When is the last time you seen real reporters
ask real quistions??
These are newsmakers and policy makers in action!!
realnewsdm 4 years ago 2
I know how to fix that...DON'T VOTE DEMOCRATIC!!!
RP
08
jarneck78 4 years ago
And give UP? Thank you, no.
Brandt761 4 years ago
Keep up the good work.
AnimeFreeMan 4 years ago
Sorry for your exclusion Kucinich, Davis Fleetwood would probably have suggested that you show up anyway and throw a fit when they don't give you a microphone and a pedestal, and see what happens.
SergioMomarsh 4 years ago
Yes, yes, it is. And even more sad is I just found out Christopher Columbus committed genocide of the Arawak peoples he encountered. There may have been as many as 8 million, peaceful, gift-bringing human beings wiped out by someone we think of as a "hero". That's the Old Boys Club version of history.
amwatchingu 4 years ago
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. Or questioning, more accurately, and the question is: Are there any people in the public eye who are courageous enough to answer the HARD questions? Stonewalling, at its finest. Discouraging.
amwatchingu 4 years ago
Davis, very nice. Good "keep going" attitude.
Rock on man, rock on.
5st.
~MITU
MoreintelligentthanU 4 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I like Kucinich. And whoever let Alan Keyes participate should lose their job, but wtf, were you trying to do a michael moore impersonation? The dude from the register told you exactly the information you needed to follow up (at Iowa Public Television) like 3 times, and you just didn't seem to get it. Then you went to the Iowa Democratic Party office for some reason, instead of going to IPT and made yourself look like more of a moron. Good job, dufus.
saucypuck 4 years ago
look "SAUCY"
I was at IOWA PUBLIC TV- right at the start of the video.
I could not get access to speak to anyone.
davisfleetwood 4 years ago
So that means you just go somewhere unrelated and ask someone something that they have no direct knowledge of. That seems like pretty cheesy journalism to me.
Look, I respect the intention of your piece. Kucinich should have be allowed to participate. It's not fair how Main Stream Media treats candidates it has decided are not front-runners. I sympathize, I support Ron Paul. I just don't appreciate how you went about trying to make (and failing to prove) your point.
saucypuck 4 years ago
SAUCY-
UNRELATED- The Des Moines Register SPONSORED THE DEBATE- Seems pretty related to me!
But, as a Ron Paul Zombie- you are not used to thinking, so.....
davisfleetwood 4 years ago
I said the democratic party of Iowa chick was unrelated, (which she said herself) not the register. Obviously the register was related, they sponsored it. That does not mean, however that that is there main focus. Obviously it's not, and that probably 99% of the employees of that newspaper were not involved in any way with the debate. (Like the people you met at the Register)
saucypuck 4 years ago
That guy was like the managing editor! He demanded to speak to someone who WAS involved in the Debate, and he was willing to wait. Apparently, according to your thesis, neither the Register NOR the Iowa Democratic party had ANYONE who was involved making decisions about the debate or had any knowledge of it.
Brandt761 4 years ago
First of all, he didn't demand to speak to someone who WAS involved in the debate, he demanded to "speak to someone who could speak for the Register." And as the register only sponsored the debate. That's like asking Nike why certain decisions were made at the Olympics because they paid to have their logo there.
And if you want to know my thesis, it's there to read, I suggest you do it again, that's not what I said.
saucypuck 4 years ago
So who WAS doing the organization? The TV network, who told them to go to the Register? SO everyone is deflecting blame. But the thing is, someone is responsile for this sh*t, and everyone should support an effort to find out who. If they cover their asses, it was probably them. If you don't have anything to hide, you don't tell anyone to turn the camera off...
Brandt761 4 years ago 3
Well IPTV did not tell him to go to the Register, but other than that I totally agree with you. Somebody screwed up, or is being completely unfair. There is no reason Kucinich shouldn't be allowed to participate. He's a legitimate candidate who's even placed first in an Iowa poll. Much more than I can say for Alan Keyes who proved himself to be a joke on the one debate he was allowed to be on.
saucypuck 4 years ago
Actually, this being a huge, HUGE, event, bringing THEM to the center of national attention for a week, it probably WAS their main focus, wouldn't you think?
Brandt761 4 years ago
How can all these people not know the answers? They claimed they don't, yet are top personnel belonging to organizations that played a major role. They SHOULD know, if they were doing their job right!
Brandt761 4 years ago
Ok, your top personnel/all these people are two people, one girl at the front desk and one middle management (or whatever) guy at a newspaper who obviously had no role in the debate. The debate was sponsored by the register and the editor was the moderator. From what I can tell, the people who actually ran it were at IPTV, where Davis Fleetwood was told to go to get his questions answered. Why didn't he go there?
saucypuck 4 years ago
That's where he went in the beginning. They told him to turn off the Camerca and then to go to the Register.
Brandt761 4 years ago
Save your strength. This has already been explained to saucypuck. S/he is incapable of getting it.
toddlerh 4 years ago
Watch it again, nobody told him to go to the register.
The chick at IPTV said she couldn't get press credentials at that time or something like that and then he did a voice over saying men in dark suits with earpieces kicked him out. If he had a camera that was rolling at the time, why didn't we see that? And why would would a PBS station have secret service-typed security?
saucypuck 4 years ago
He was told to turn off the camera, which is why we will never know what happened, except for what he tells us. But he posted earlier that they HAD told him to go to the register.
Brandt761 4 years ago
SAUCY
IOWA PUBLIC TV had secret servive because Hillay Clinton, you know- a former first lady, was in the building.
davisfleetwood 4 years ago
@saucypuck notice how he didn't respond entirely to your comment either. Just the sercret service part... Which still has yet to be seen on the video...like you said... this dude is completely whack.
novakane87 1 year ago
I would just like to know how much Kucinich raised. Why is it such a secret? Does anyone know?
taintpainter77 4 years ago
ffffffing bullshit!!
citizenkong 4 years ago
How much did Kucinich raise for his money bomb? Why won't anyone say?
Ron Paul -- 6 million dollars
taintpainter77 4 years ago
how does this relate?
grandpoobarr 4 years ago
Gotta say--this them, SOO-oft echoed here, is pretty silly to some of us who have watched such "mine-is-bigger-than-yours" posturing with amusement and /or annoyance for forever....The thing is, it's the same mentality that has brought us, "Guantanimo" and "I'm the Decider" and "You want to see World War III?"----ENOUGH, already?!
LevanahMoon 4 years ago
I made a comment and got two reponses in my e mail and they were in german and took me to a german version of this. That was weird. Now my comment seems to be gone as well. Anybody know why?
dunskie 4 years ago
Go get 'em, Davis!!
Punch through the media filter.
Kucinich 2008!
Dutchoven08 4 years ago
Thank you, LevanahMoon. I have heard Naomi Wolf interviewed on several alternative news programs. She has done a great job in delineating how the US has followed the classic path to fascism. All we need is a couple of more factors--terror attacks or financial meltdown--and we'll arrive at the full-fledged form.
shabaash 4 years ago
RE: fascism, or more broadly, totalitarianism--PLEASE read THE END OF AMERICA, by Naomi Wolf, NOW! There is a virtual playbook followed by every totalitarian state arisen in the 20th centure, and the United States has been following each step and has progressed pretty far along the path. This is NOT hysteria, just a calm observation of concrete events. It may look slightly different from one place to the next, but at heart, it is the same. Wolf calmly outlines it.
LevanahMoon 4 years ago
Levanah - thumbs up for recommending Naomi Wolf's book.
yeah, it's very calm, and very concrete.