Cool Electric Car

[mj2468100]

Cool

[ilililhy1]

$250,000.00 ? Sure, let`s all run out and buy one ,while they are on Sale. Get the price tags down ,so people can afford cars like these.

[mindthoughts1974]

I'm looking forward to Tesla Motors selling a city electric car with a futuristic look and styling- and offering it both in electric, and plug in hybrid choice. And rather than batteries, hopefully UltraCapacitors will be used- like Honda originally plan to use in the 2000 Honda Insight Hybrid. It's been 11 years :-)

[Edaeron]

quarter of a million dollars... well we know poverty won't have the means to break away from gas powered cars. IMO automotive companies really need to start producing cars on an affordable level so gas powered cars can be stomped out.

[Lightingbolt008]

Hope electric cars will be something everyone can afford with great mileage because oil isn't going to last forever.

[davisgreen2020]

Goes to show that electric cars are NO dull cars !!

[idontcare80]

Eww.. wheel motors.

[screwopenborders]

@idontcare80 whats wrong with that?

[idontcare80]

@screwopenborders They don't work in the real world. Plus they add a huge amount of unsprung weight which compromises handling and ride quality.

[piper4seeformerly]

with motors at the wheels and no way to disengage them in case something goes wrong I would not feel safe driving this car.

[screwopenborders]

@piper4seeformerly hmm I don't see how you could assume that you couldn't disengage them.

[piper4seeformerly]

@screwopenborders Good point. But how could you disengage wheel-mounted motors? I can't read schematics but my laymens sense of this car is that if the motor is running then it's a given that the wheel it's housed in is spinning as well because they are built together as a unit

[starview1]

A chemist from Ohio University has discovered a way to get Hydrogen from Urine, he chose urine because of the weaker hyrogen bond (easier to crack out than from water) The process also costs lest to produce hydrogen than it does to produce gasoline. Gives us beer lovers a whole new reason to drink and drive...LOL

The chemists name is Gerardine Botte

[starview1]

Wouldn't the UK and Ireland for that matter, be in a position to mfg hydrogen from water, get it to market quick, to support a fuel cell economy. Both are small countries in area and surrounded by water. H powered vehicles would be ideal for such a small market (relative to access) Even relatively inefficent (cheap )fuel cell designs would provide a new look --batteries are just environmental nightmares.

[starview1]

The Tesla (USA) has a interesting power set-up , and is $98,000.00 US not a quarter of a million dollars. 3.7sec 0 to 60mph. In 2008 you could actually buy the Tesla, albeit there was a wait as a result of massive popularity. (relative to a $98,000.00 car)

[paintballgundown8]

Have one of these cars and say your saving the planet or buy a very nice 50k dollar car, the insurance, gas and repairs, and still save your wallet

[blastergti]

This car is flippin excellent eventhough it's kinda pricy.

It'd be tough if I had to choose between a Lightning or a Tesla!... Both are awesome...

[matisstar]

buy tesla or just build your own. waay more cheaper then previous two options how-ever it is good than somtin had change and they are going to produce that good for planet and thats in the first place.

[HoboGus]

I'd rather have a TESLA. The British have a reputation for building lousy undependable cars. Britian is famous for Bad Skin, Bad Teeth, Lousy Food, Bad Weather and Un-dependable cars. I'll pass!!

[grungerman]

@HoboGus Ok bad weather I agree with, it's true. But the others, not so much. We do love tea though.

[Arcona]

@HoboGus On behalf of Britains everywhere, get fucked! and get over yourselves you coffee obsessed foreign oil dependant uneducated redneck sister shagging foot fetish having retards :) Have a nice day

[frackcha]

@HoboGus LOL, and america is the shining example to us all... PFFFFT..

get over yourself......

[elfman1ofDaRobSquad]

coal plants are bullshit there from the past!

[ZZ2SVA]

Yes,this it Future de World....

[WesleyPAD2]

If we were to ship all the gasoline, to high efficient power plants based on gasoline and convert all gasoline cars to electric, we would have enough electricity to power all our electric cars with enough to spare to help power our cities.

Also, we can get much cleaner electricity than burning gasoline at a power plant. Even using straight crude oil as a fuel would be an improvement.

Throw in Hydro, Geo, Wind and Solar power, then we could eventual have a completely green system.

[andruha11234]

if you can afford this, you can afford gas

[redghost105]

and also think about where the electricity comes from

it comes from power plants that eitehr use coal or nuclear power

if everyone started using electric cars then we would need to build more power plants to keep up with the energy demand which means more pollution.

in the end is it really that much better for the environment?

[redghost105]

the thing I hate about electric cars are

they might get 300 miles(or whatever you want to say) but after 300 mills you have to plug it in a special outlet and charge it up for a few hours

ya that would be kinda good around town but what if your trying to travel?

and one thing anyone thinks about is it costs money to charge there car up which means if your on the road and you loses all your juice then youll have to pull over

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[redghost105]

costing the building money...if you think about it thats just like stealing electricity for your home which is illegal

and if everyone gets an electric car then every time someone runs out of electricity then someone else has to pay for it

do you want to pay for someone elses electricity?

[mcstoneypants]

@redghost105 go fuck urself its a good idea

[redghost105]

@mcstoneypants instead of being a moron and just telling me its a great idea how about you explain like a normal person would explain why its a good idea

[DoYouSeeWhy]

@redghost105 I think the conventional response is that, at least for coal-fired plants, they have to run continuously because they can't be turned on and off in any practical way to respond to electrical demand. Therefore at night, when power usage is lower, they have to stay running anyway and a lot of the energy is wasted because it can't be stored economically. If people charged their cars overnight they would be using energy that would have gone to waste otherwise.

[DoYouSeeWhy]

@redghost105 Also, there are at least two issues related to energy policy that need to be considered here. There is, of course, the aforementioned environmental concerns, and there is also the issue of energy independence, i.e. not relying on other countries for energy sources. These are different issues whose solutions are not necessarily in lockstep with each other.

[DoYouSeeWhy]

@redghost105 For example, to gain independence we could build lots of nuke plants, electrify the railways, exploit the hell out of coal to build power plants and use Fischer-Tropsch to make enough oil to run everything else, and use natural gas and renewables to supply non-baseload power and obtain complete independence. Environmental plans would focus on conservation and energy would be really expensive because of its scarcity. Plans to solve each issue generally come at the other's expense

[elfman1ofDaRobSquad]

@DoYouSeeWhy or we can make lots of those windmill power generaters both on land and in the water, aswell as create those solarpanel farms like in nevada, so we are more eco-friendly.

[bestamerica]

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no thank i dont like this car

[masterlee123]

wHY HAVE A HOOD

[egn83b]

@masterlee123 batteries compartment

[PeliculasIlluminatis]

info about MAGNETIC MOTOR, is the future of energy.

[NJRocks281]

all motors use magnetism you noob

[koglowa]

@PeliculasIlluminatis try electric motor dumdum

[Darkdragon5091]

u dont know cars

this car is ment to go in the fkkn dump

[danwat1234]

Hmm. Tesla Roadster S has better 0-60

[gavincurtis]

@danwat1234

It does, but still has a drivetrain.

This one has a brushless motor in each wheel... looks like a brake drum.

It is the ideal all wheel traction control system. Long term reliability of driver electronics? I don't know.

Ideally you would have electronics in the motor itself, so a bad drive motor would be replaced as a component with the spare tire.

[3113jp]

so its a toy for those with cash to burn - ok, i can appreciate it for what it really is

[westreet88]

so... 250k for no gas, short range, just two people, no sun roof, and the risk of electricution? Ill take 4 corvetts, differant colors and a hell of alot of gas!

[starmanskye]

@westreet88 -- Less risk of electrocution than odds BOTH Britney & Madonna want you to show them a good time. As opposed to driving around with an air-fuel bomb in your trunk. But I agree, there's LOTS of vehicles I'd rather have. I'd probably be happiest with a half-dozen

2nd hand customized toys, from a classic pre-war big-block hotrod PU to a 20s roadster to a barn-find '39 caddy to a Series 2 Landrover w/ 4-banger Cummins to a 1500 cc Yamaha bobber to a 100 inch HD roadking sidecar.

[MrWombatPPC]

I looked into those motors, but they wont sell them to the general public. Only to the suits.

[MRJOSEPHKING1971]

my gas car was only $1

$250,000 on a car NO WAY

[NOTHINGbutCOMEDY]

what a sexy environmentally friendly beast O_O LOL

[kurt30001]

Now that's the new sports car for Hollywood for 2012/2013 !!

[DThaeman]

whats the top speed? how long can it travel flat out?

[CommanderB9488]

What if one of the motor's malfunctions? Will the wheel then just free spin? Surely that will affect driving and handling no?

[gavincurtis]

@CommanderB9488

Volvo was working on similar drive system. Electronics were built into each motor. If a motor or its computer failed, it was replaced as if changing for the spare tire. That is the spare tire had the replacement motor and rim as well.

[SoRealSoReal23]

damn this car cost way more than the telsa...the only thing better on this car is the short charge time

[Ecoi1]

The Tesla Roadster Sport can go 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. They said about 4 seconds here, how close to "about 4 seconds" is it? Still, cool looking car.

[tsport100]

You'd expect with over 600 hp compared to the Tesla's 250 hp it would be quite a bit faster!

[jayholman1]

can i get a $230k tax break?i can fill the gas tank on a corvette for years with that kind of coin.

[dmgcat]

why a quarter of a million? Thats ridiculous. Nothing on that car is worth that much money you are just paying for the concept and the sporty looks. Waste of money in my opinion.

[starmanskye]

Actually, there should be a HUGE market for hub-motors that can be retrofitted to convert several million ICE-equipped standard autos, SUVs and PUs, using existing or modified stock suspension in most applications. I'm rather amazed the Asian countries haven't yet begun to develop this market opportunity to meet the modest demands of an urban commuter much more efficiently & cost effectively than can be done with petro fuels. Hub motors will also facilitate cheap & practical hybrid conversions.

[intheshitter]

I dont understand how something with less moving parts is more expensive.

[b4uknowit]

its ALL about the money man....everyone thinks these things will save the world not that anyone can afford it

[thinkmanworld]

if they produce a lot.. this can reduce the cost... think laaa... it is not easy to creat somethig new... youll need a lot of research and money....

[Zamboro]

I drive an electric moped on the street, and an electric bicycle on trails. The moped was $1,440, a full thousand less than a Honda Ruckus. The bike was $300, about as much as a decent mountain bike goes for anyway.

I don't think I'm saving the earth. I just like the whirr and hum of electric motors. I like the smooth acceleration and low maintinence. They're quiet, which is better for enjoying yourself in the countryside, and they have peppy acceleration.

[salemcripple]

or more impressive for that matter.

[Basspost]

There is a HUGE market for the first vehicle that will go 40 Km per day, and offer minimum safety features like air bags. It is intended to drive the kids to school and pick up the groceries, or get Mom and Dad to work. It must be able to go highway speed for short distances! It's OK if it gets mothballed for the winter months. Keep it SIMPLE, and keep it priced at $20.000 or less or it won't sell! We need one or more of these in every driveway in the world to help save the planet ASAP!

[cant7think7clearly]

Interesting. I might keep my eye on this car (not that I can afford one)!

[puffrooster]

If they build more of them it might become affordable!?

[riegirrl]

the recharge time can depend on your charger

not the car itself

[gouryellla]

jvincent3131, Point well made. I was thinking the same thing. People are better waiting for the electric cars to be mass produced as in time, the prices will come down like everything else. Very nice however!

[martinfryda]

I pushed poor comment accidentally - sorry ...I agree with you

[Ostemorder]

someone is gotta buy them NOW so they get mass produced later, lol

[intheshitter]

This guy reminds me of Borat

[Trommylee]

at 250k, a person could buy 2 Teslas and have 32k left over1

[MrVlada011]

@Trommylee this is to tesla like a screwdriver to a computer mouse. Dont kid yourself, its worth well over.

[bellaggio1770]

The company making the motors (PML Flightlink) went bankrupt. There's others that make wheel motors, not sure if Lightning will be forced to switch.

[annihilationnegitive]

not to be rude, but alot of you do not seem to understand a few things here.

1. why make a $250,000 car? simple, in order to make money to get into cheaper cars. in order to build a car you need man power and materials. the idea is to build say...100 very expensive cars and use the profit to increase production capabilities and then start making affordable cars.

2. america is not the only country...so the rest of the world is more than willing to get into something like this.

[drumzstix666]

This is such a bad time for making a car like this dude! We're in the middle of a fucking recession! People like electric cars but hate 6 figure price tags! Sorry but I prefer going for the Lumeneo Smera. The french long range electric car for only $30k.

[jvincent3131]

Anyone concerned with gas prices are not going to be able to afford a quarter million dollar car.

[sockosockosocko]

@jvincent3131 over 10,000 people have built their own for like $7000-20,000. (including me :-) hooray for open source cars and almost no more maintenance, no oil or gas... the power is in the people's hands.

[elfman1ofDaRobSquad]

@jvincent3131 just convert your own for around 10gs

[tsport100]

The company that makes these wheel motors PML Flightlink are under administration (ie. Bankrupt) as of Nov 2008.

We've never seen this Lightening do anything more than walking pace anyways, so forget the fastest EV tag for now. It's all Vapourware.

[sideshow1122]

quarter of a million dollars???? Yeah, I'll get right on that lol. Save the planet ...go green... but go broke trying. Make it more affordable ppl.

[GTWCMT]

well its a 36KW batery pack, they use the Hi-PA drive system and there some reports of someo company suppling has gone into administration. not sure if its hi-pa drive??

Nice car, very much like a cross astin jag

[hempev]

Wrong units - likely to be a 37kWh battery pack, and a heck of a lot more kW at every corner!