Scientology: Andreas in Hollywood - Part 2

[mattdaddyful]

Great Job Andreas

[TheBobbsey]

tory magoo sure picked the right person to come out of the cult when she did. This man i a hero.

[beholdthedarkhorse]

Scientologists are no match for any straight thinking man

[fzappa007]

Joel could not communicate his way out of a paper bag, my six year old can communicate better than Joel....is Joel OT??? for Christ sake if ANYONE deserves a refund fro $cientology its Joel. He is PROOF it doesn't work. Where is his CONFRONT ?, why is he not SHATTERING Andreas' suppression?? Oh this is such an embarrassment for little Davy Miscavige ....what a bumbling bafoon Joel is!!!!

[DoctorLush]

I love the very last words heard in the video -

"That's not free speech that's bullshit."

I love Tory.

[velveetaslingshot]

"That's true...but I'm also trying to underst....no wait...forget about that question."

LMAO....he basically admitted that yes he was trying to get him to say something about being a NAMBLA supporter on camera.

[CorndogMaker]

The Scientologist got cremed here, and on his own terms, in his home turf. Scientologists are programed to only attack and never defend, a strategy which often frustrates weaker opponents and may even win some illogical arguments. Andreas though, by merely defending, defeats the opposition while showing its impotency. Its a bit like a fly banging up against a window over and over, until it dies.

When Tory finally went on the offense, he could only flee.

[11Jamie11]

<3 Tory, haha. Go get him!! After what the cult did to her, they deserve a faceful of her, big time.

Scientology opponents put up the truth and get harangued as liars by Scientologists, while Scientologists put up lies and rationalize it even when called on it to their faces. Amazing. Nice going, Hubbard: you created a Venusian freight train of perverted liars and left it for us to clean up. Jerk.

[LeagueOJustice]

That Tory Magoo is one fucked up broad.

[tuber5055]

Andreas is an excellent spokesperson. Bravo

[Fader45]

I wanted to comment exactly that, so I'll just second it :)

[aaanne80]

"That's not free speech, that's bullshit". How true!

[SharksKid]

Why is Tory wearing horns?? LOl

[MrWinston1984]

What kind of religion mobilizes it's members to violate the privacy of individuals and even make up lies in order to blacken their names? What's most amazing is that they feel justified in doing these things because "Ron Says"...

Disgusting.

[lejink]

he says any information of scientology is sacred and shouldnt be allowed on the net. well christianitys view of creationism is sacred, should we ban any video or information on evolution? should we ban scientology because its views go against sacred christian beliefs? its a double edged sword.. we cant play with those ideals

[norwegian1975]

Learn more about the cult on youtube just type in Xenutv or Scientology

BOYCOTT SCIENTOLOGY CELEBRITIES!

SCIENTOLOGY IS A BIG FAT GLOBAL SCAM!

SCIENTOLOGY KILLS!

CUT AND PASTE AND PASS THE MESSAGE ALONG!

[ruskeerider]

Andres is sooo much more calm and centered and eloquent (and English is even his second language!) than any of the Scientologist he's conversed with in these videos.

Hmm. And they spent HOW much to be able to "communicate" as well as they do??

[Borbnert]

I like this Andreas cat. he's cool.

[Roxy4Crow]

When I listen to Andreas speak, I feel proud of being Norwegian ^^

[Borbnert]

The Viking conquered!

[Roxy4Crow]

That's one way of saying it ^^

[LordOfJackShit]

stop the hate ;( be nice 2 each other

im depressed DR

[myrkvargkjetter]

Damn, i wish that bitch would shut up. She may be right, but shes going at it wrong.

vlcupper: "Vis Nordmann"

[vlcupper]

Damn! What's Norwegian for Wise Norwegian Man?

[puffman311]

"That's not free speech, that's bullshit!"

[anonymously1nspired]

Scientology is an evil cult that is bent on money and greed and should be renounced as a religion and be dismantled ...it is a horrible incarnation that preys upon unwary victims who are generally seeking help and advice on how to live a better life only to be lied to and milked out of all their hard earned money...scientology should be broken up and its leaders thrown in jail for fraud and human abuses

[theQiwiMan]

Andreas Heldal-Lund: My new hero.

Notice how he never attacks, is always respectful, even when baited.

This is a good man.

[bigNMhillbilly]

no doubt, this Dude rules

he is straigh up a credit to his countrymen, unlike ole capitan yellow shirt who'd lose a spelling contest w/ curious george he sounds so stupid, as and an American i wish we had more foriegn guys like this here and less of some of my countrymen here e.i. these sci-guy clown shoes.

[mollywobbles0928]

I love Tory, but I do wish she had stayed calm because I guarantee that now most of their video will be of her freaking out and they'll put narration over it to make her seem crazy. She's just passionate. They took 30 years of her life.

[pizzledizzlewizzle]

that magoo bitch is dumb... she needs to go away, she seems crazy

[fenix4500]

Brillaint, 2:04 says it all

"You're trying to get me on tape saying i am for incest or something."

"Yes, thats true....No, im not, forget that question."

Moron, keep up the good work xenutv, the earth is a better place with people like you around.

[allmuppetcaligula]

The Scientologist was no match for frank articulation.

[purewonka]

If Scientology is sending this guy out to interview Andreas, you know that he is among their best and brightest. Um, start looking for the life vests; the Scientology ship is sinking.

[anonymousisgreat]

I find it amazing how no Scientologist is able to use logic or reasoning. They can't communicate like normal people. They simply use circular reasoning, along with many other logical fallacies, to explain the time and money that they have wasted showing support for a cult that has done great amounts of damage.

[alexjc1984]

Andreas is so intelligent! With his logic alone he manages to overwhelm scientology... I'd like to be this wise. Go Andreas!

[AngryRaptor]

Like I posted in the previous part to this series, I strongly believe it is because Andreas went in with a clear mind from biased judgment to effectively absorb both sides of the story.

Anybody can do this with self discipline. Plus, it also helps when he (Adreas) has already taken the liberty to do all the research, check and cross check his facts and claims on his web site. If something is wrong, he edits it accordingly.

This Scientologist, showed good restraint in comparison to others.

[mikemikemofo]

dam adreas is good

[unfasten]

Damn the Scientologists for getting this video deleted.

[bigNMhillbilly]

damn this foriegn guy is one smart dude, i myself as an american am proud to have this fella here in my country. he's better at english than me lol

man capitan yellow shirt got his ass handed to him hahaha

dont leave us big swede guy we need you here! ill sign of on your visa if you need me too lol

[maxen992]

He is Norwegian, but Swedes are good in protesting about Scientology too :p

[bigNMhillbilly]

ahh? norish eh? lol my mistake, i for some reason thought swedish lol. he does mention his country several times huh lol sorry i had a dummass moment, not unlike capitan yellow shirt here lmfao, my god its got me laughing again, listening him getting his ass handed to himlike that. the capitan needs to give up on verbal jousting huh? he sucks at it, granted this norish guy is smart as hell, but i doubt the capt would do much better with a person w/ a double digit IQ. "im outa questions" lmfao!

[thegoodrevtim]

All Hail Xenu!

[tglass55]

i can't believe he is speaking in his second language...

[Phoarz]

norwegians speak english very well actually, except we have this strange accent when we talk...

[richyrich666]

This guy is great. Viable intelligent arguments backed up all the way.

[rickmojo]

Go Tory YAY!!!! Adreas your absolutely Fantastic!!!! YAY Mark I love you guys. You provide a great service to the general public, informing each and everyone one of us what Scientology is all about. I applaud all of you, I have the greatest respect for all of you!!! Hoorah for the Freedom to speak freely!!!!

[BernardLOmax]

You need the calm collective cool of a European to get a point accross. Andrea does so really well. The woman is just interested in being on camera. She comes over to end the conversation and then tries to get some camera time for herself. The scientologist wasn't very manipulative or aggressive, which is a first.

[damo2353]

You should look at the trash that is put up about Tory on the freedomwatch website. I don't blame her for being angry at all.

[zzzxtreme]

critical thinker

[N0d4chi]

Andreas Heldal Lund is totally winning the discussion against this Scientologyst.

I have to give credit to this one though since he is actually having a rather normal conversation then those typical "WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES?!" type of conversations.

[gombro]

The only Scientologists that are smart are the ones banking on the top levels. All these others, like this one, are a bit dim. But I guess that's the reason why they're in a cult.

[valentinetheicondx]

i'm not for this cult but have to say is that if beleving in aliens weird, when a lot of people worship a carpenter that lived 2000 years ago. i know it's not the same but if these people are happy with it let them be

[riveroose]

No, Scientology has murdered people and extorts hundreds of thousands of dollars from them. It's not a religion like Christianity.

[TavishHill]

Exactly, when people start dieing or killing themselves or losing all their money or having their family destroyed as direct effects of Scientology, it is time people get the full story about its activities and its agenda.

[MushookieMan]

yeh, it's just a cult/mob/piece-of-shit organization saying it is a "religion" as a coverup so that the government won't stop them. Because they know that the government is scared to dissagree with anyone on what is "religion"; because of the freedom of "religion" in the United States! Scientology needs to be stopped!

[TavishHill]

The nutjob theology of Scientology isn't the problem. You find the same silly ideas in pretty much all religious texts. The issue is that the ideals of this gorup has literally been solely responsible for countless deaths of its members, suicides, slander, extortion, fraud, tax evasion, and numerous other illegal activities that threaten the very freedoms they claim to be fighting for.

[MushookieMan]

other religion's ideas are hardly silly compared to scientology's "ideas". They were concieved by a FUCKING FICTION WRITER! Scientology preaches about ancient alien civilizations practicing eugenics and other FUCKING STEAMING SHIT! read up about it some more on wikipedia!

[DrZodas]

You can't help but feel some sympathy for the scientologist because he is struggling to defend his beliefs and is probably coming to the realization (as other theists do once confronted with logic) that his religion is complete nonsense.

[ryanwitski]

nah it's the 2% of religion (cults and secret clubs) that make the rest look bad.

[TavishHill]

I've yet to encounter or hear about a religion that wasn't based of a lack of rational thinking. Things like Christianty may be based on very pleasant ideas philosophically in terms of how to treat your fellow man, but all that is entirely based on truly believing that the crazy Bible miralce stories are true.

[Hawaiianguy731399]

lol, I love it In video 1 its comeltly ok for the scientoligists to hound that guy who is trying to make a point, but here its not ok, and he gets all upset and runs away.

[archraw]

It is apparent that Andreas has a far greater intellect than the man he is talking to.

[xenublows]

Learn more about the cult on youtube just type in Xenutv or Scientology

BOYCOTT SCIENTOLOGY CELEBRITIES!

SCIENTOLOGY IS A BIG FAT GLOBAL SCAM!

SCIENTOLOGY KILLS!

CUT AND PASTE AND PASS THE MESSAGE ALONG!

Go to Google and type in "Scientology actors list" should be the second link on google in the search.

[brayvo]

he is clearly avoiding everything he's saying (which is all true), just as all religious people do when you try to have a debate with them about their religion.

[Katalyzt]

Liars(scientologists/theists) tend to do that!

Katalyzt

[ponhand]

Smart man this norvegian is.

[MiyaunnaCleveland]

"You have to dare to see things out there that you don't like." What a smart man.

[Innkyblott]

Why doesn't the Scientologist follow his own logic and remove the lies he wrote about that woman? That alone kills his point.

[martyyu]

More people should listen to the reasoned arguments of Andreas.

[bedonewithit]

Indeed. it's always nice to calmy defuse fanaticism. It confuses( and irks ) them the most becuase any fanatic believes they have exclusive rights to rationality

[sugarplumscookies]

It's disgusting to see how that scientologist keeps trying to entrap Andreas into saying something that can be twisted for their purposes. Absolutely disgusting. I wonder what an ethical person thinks the first time his "church" asks him to do something like that.

[jimm2daslim]

owned

[idroppedoutofcollege]

Andreas outclassed that Scientologist every step of the way. A phenomenal debater. I love it how well he sets emotion aside and can calmly and rationally discuss what is right, ethical and legal.

Scientologists are scum!

[sugarplumscookies]

"Honk if Scientology ripped you off" "Honk if you think Scientology is a cult"--I love it!!!! There was a lot of honkin' goin' on.

[RedBunny]

Yes, this guy is calm, has facts, has good arguments. He has the truth - which is from both sides. I would love to see a person become a scientologist after hearing the story from both sides. This norwegian fellah is amazing !

[DonF72]

Too bad that'll never happen. There's never an informed decision involved with joining Scientology. That's why they're always at the sites of tragedies such as the Virginia Tech Massacre and 9/11.

[larsnord]

I love how he admitted that he was trying it make it seem the Norwegien guy supported inscest. Lol.

[Astarkat]

u fucking idiots

die religions

even satanism is false stf fu

[tnpopkid]

soo much more clearer now...thanks!! psssh

[ViktorDragoon]

Andreas is cool ;P but that woman can be kind of annoying.

[wasupi355]

Well, when you see her in comparison to Andreas yeah, but it's realy easy to lose your head when you deal with them

[ViktorDragoon]

Yeah, scientologists drive people bonkers, "what are your sins" over and over and over...

[MisterMoes]

I love this guy :)

[624035008]

I really do admire Andreas calmness....

i am sure he has a lot of passion in this subject...but he kept it all at bay and produced a very sound argument

[skidawg22]

Is this guy comparing criticism to Scientology to NAMBLA?

[mikecassion]

the guy's taken too much drugs. that it made him go into autopilot.

[warhammer1]

I've seen a number of videos about this, I enjoy the fact that so many of the people against Scientology are so learned and smart and professional. Even more so, I laugh at the fact that these Scientologists so rarely make sense, or simply make themselves look like total pussies with the amazingly exaggerated "assault charges" Sweeney, Andreas, Tory, Mark Bunker keep the ball rolling!

[boxerno]

Xenu got your tongue? Haha stå på Andreas!

[SharkSport]

scientology is diligently working to infiltrate youtube to remove videos like this one.

[hunterochoa]

they have begun by disallowing comments on some videos. Though I see this on other videos as well. WTF is that, youtube?

[VinsonMD]

ah ok. got the website! lol

[MrWicked15]

AAAAHHHH- i love it!! - keep at it man...i signed up with scientology about 4 yrs back (at age 21 by accident and deception) and i think they still have a log on me (i suspected several people following me the first year). - pretty scary man...

[FEEDER87]

Lol! I bet the scientology freaks had to edit the f#¤k out of their video to make Andreas seem bad! Andreas is one smart bro! BTW we need more of Andreas on youtube!!!!

[jonashipping]

Good work Andreas, stå på!

[czoz]

Good work Andreas. Calm, rational. The person who loses their temper loses the argument. That is why you looked so much better than the woman, even though you both have good arguments.

[joeybadoey]

This Andreas fellow is the best debater I've ever seen. So calm, so intellient, and very quick!

[razvaz]

I wonder if he ever discusses things with lots of people at once, he would be the best mass'debater you'd ever seen. So calm, so intellient, and very quick! :P

[jt9636]

Andreas is totally bitch slapping the scientologist.

[Max4T3hW1n]

you know what? ive had nuff of this shit. scientologists wanna be sick fucks then we will be sick fucks too who knows the guy in the yellow shirt or how to find the stupid fuck

? i want to hunt his ass down and quit fuckn with another person just because they have their own opinions you stupid scientolofucks.

[madclowns]

You know he apraoches in one of the least non agrsseive fashions possible... and in the end he makes them look like such fools, never throwing a fist or even insults...

Its guys like Andreas that are going to take scientology down...

[Clarency]

ahaha

Andreas: "I know what your doing your trying to take me... your trying to get something on tape so you can say I am "for" incest or something.

Dumbass: That's true...

[shadyzz954]

It's funny, the Scientologo-whacko keeps saying, "But I don't understand how..." this and that... No matter what LOGICAL answer he gets to his questions, he keeps saying he doesn't understand a totally different point.

It's a weak tactic to try to change the point of the conversation because he can't answer to it or face the reality.

[horsesflu]

Who the hell is that lady with the shrill, awful voice in the background?

She completely ruins the interview, with her obnoxious whining and un-called for swearing, during an otherwise pleasant debate.

Lord how I hate her!

[Clarency]

That's Tory Christman one of the other enemies of scientology enemies alongside Andrea. I have a lot of respect for her too and if you watch some of her videos you can see how she and Andrea have different approaches in their discussions (which is obvious already).

But yea I think she should have left it between Andrea and that lame dude on this one.

[josiahcampbell]

This scientologist is a freakin moron, What the hell kind of questions are these its like questions a 3rd grader asks to a mayor. Copyright over a religious text hahaha bullshit. I can't believe that these people believe this farce we need to take away their tax benefits they don't fall under category of non-profit org.

[voltronjesus]

i wonder how bad those scientologists edited they video they shot to use against Andreas. what a shame. he has excellent arguments and i have alot of respect for his intelligence.