I see love: The Passion of Christ

[TanChowYee1]

Condemnation kills, thank you jesus because all you done for me

[TanChowYee1]

condemnation kills, thank you jesus

[jeremyrfritz]

What’s the difference between Jesus, and a Mexican?

Jesus doesn’t have a tattoo of a Mexican.

[pauloxx2010]

NEM VO FALA NADA PRA ESSES FILHO DEUMA PUTA QUE FIZERAM ISSO COM JESUS

Q TODOS MORRAM NO INFERNOO QUEIMANDO

[jaxband2011]

I appreciate people ofr being able to see the importance of this. Thank you lord for your sacrifices. blood or no blood.

[MrAndrewsjoseph]

He die 4 us,,,,remember that alway's,,,,,,,,,,,

[ednoisin]

I hope you've realized by now that this european hippie-looking jesus is indeed the image of the beast; a westernized farce paving the way of the anti-Hebrew Messiah. Our savior is called Imanuel Ha Mashiach who will come again as YAHOSHUA for the salvation of the Lost Sheeps of Yisrael These are the lost sheeps stripped from their identity during the transatlantic slave trade according to Deut 28:33, 37,48-50, 68. Blessings, Peace & Shalom,

[Kalmar4life]

amen

[susanwilson13]

DEAR FATHER,

PLEASE FORGIVE ME OF MY SINS AND HAVE MERCY ON ME. I AM CONTINUING TO LIVE IN DARKNESS AND DONT PROPERLY HOW TO TURN FROM IT. I AM TOO SELFISH AND WANT TO LIVE FOR MYSELF....PLEASE HELP ME I BEG OF YOU. AMEN

[123denisep]

Jesus is not dead but RISEN and lives forevermore ! Our only Savior and the light and hope of the World ! His life had and continues to have the largest effect of any life lived on earth !

[antimethman]

Jesus Christ - is YOUR biggest FAN....... !!!!!

[nakedhands]

Jesus is dead so get over it.You all live in the past and if you love him so much then be like him and convert to judaism because he was a jew and practiced jewish rituals,or you can continue to be heretical christians who live in delusion and die in spiritual poverty.

[luvdemstillers]

@nakedhands All you're former "great" leaders bodies can be acounted for. Where's Jesus' body? Spend your time looking for it.

[gupsphoo]

I'm mightier than the Judeo-Christian God because I can forgive others without resorting to blood sacrifice.

[ViperSRTnACR]

@gupsphoo

You yourself are imperfect like we all are so you cant forgive ALL sins when you yourself hold that very nature. The point of Jesus coming for the purpose of being a sin offering is it forgave all mankind once and for all... to those who would choose it. No human has the ability to forgive at a divine level because we're incapable of offering it to begin with.

[gupsphoo]

@ViperSRTnACR I can definitely forgive a couple people for eating fruits off my tree, "divine level" or not. How many people have your god killed before resorting to the famous blood sacrifice? (not that I actually believe it happened)

[GhostFriendly]

@gupsphoo but not in a legal sense; ie. a judge can't let off a criminal, but can pay the fine on his behalf. In the case of all human sin only God could pay the price

[baloozz]

@gupsphoo Hey dude I just read your post ......made me smile. Did you not know that you can not give new life without shedding blood ?! Hope you are well. Bless you. x

[kulitut]

@gupsphoo may I ask who gave you might to forgive? and who gave you life here on this earth? where did your strength came from my friend. Did you live perfectly without committing any sin? if not, then Jesus died for your sin also...

[gupsphoo]

@kulitut I feel sorry for you my friend. It seems that you think you're completely powerless to do anything in this world without relying on your imaginary god.

[ikeashiasanders29]

JESUS IS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD ALL WHO CALLS AND KNOCKS WILL BE ANSWERED ITS TRUE NOW I KNOW THANK YOU LORD

[Europasfreiheit]

I see grace!:(:(

I see peace in the eyes of a king

[saythanx]

look how simple minded the world was back then, no showers no medicine all barbaric. so what he died we all die he's another human im a human your a human were all humans. were all jesus were all buddha were all smart. but WE ARE NOT BARBARIC and the world will stay barbaric from forever unless technology is spread throughout the world for the better of man kind. we dont need jesus we dont need god we need technology and thats the truth.. are mind is the future and were fucked if we believe this

[Jasmine1721]

My gosh! Can we stop the religion fights! You believe, then good! You don't, please don't start a fight. @Majic490 What's your case against God. I know you don't believe in God but why seem like you're carrying such anger. Don't tell me it's just unbelief; you're furious. And please go plague some other video on some other website. None of us will convert or shut up on our faith, so whats the point?

[Majic490]

@Jasmine1721 We are all atheists, some of us just believe in fewer gods than others. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

-Stephen F. Roberts

[HamzaOmar8]

((The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was)).

[999optimusprime]

Lord i wish i was in pain like u,you done this for the world thank you!!! I do bad things but with your help i can do anything!

[Majic490]

@999optimusprime

Those who wish to seek out the cause of miracles, and to understand the things of nature as philosophers, and not to stare at them in astonishment like fools, are soon considered heretical and impious, and proclaimed as such by those whom the mob adores as the interpreters of nature and the gods. For these men know that once ignorance is put aside that wonderment would be taken away which is the only means by which their authority is preserved.

-Spinoza

[Romatic32005]

This song makes me cry... Sweet Saviour , you are AWESOME!!! words cannot express my gratitude for saving my soul...Precious King! I will gladly serve you. Make me dangerous.... to live like you did!!! love you

[dalejrfan12]

This song is amazing!

I love you too, Jesus!

[Majic490]

@dalejrfan12 Are you a schizophrenic? you are aware that this is all a fable?

[SummerSunshine1988]

@Majic490 : First of all, cool it with the schizophreic talk. It's a huge, disrespectful slap in the face to those like my brother who truly do struggle with such illnesses. Second of all, God does exist, and you'll change your tune real fast when THAT slaps YOU in the face.

[Majic490]

@SummerSunshine1988 I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use.

-Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

[Majic490]

@SummerSunshine1988 Well you should know how the schizophrenics make up these ludicrous non sensical stories with flights of fantasy....so too does religion only there are lot more people in in the psychosis.....

[Majic490]

@SummerSunshine1988 .....Is that meant to scare me? what you have just stated is on par with the fear that if I'm not good this year Santa will not bring me presents.....get the picture nimrod?

[SummerSunshine1988]

@Majic490 : I have no intention of trying to scare you. Just trying to knock some sense into that head of yours.

[Majic490]

@SummerSunshine198

Think of how many religions attempt to validate themselves with prophecy. Think of how many people rely on these prophecies, however vague, however unfulfilled, to support or prop up their beliefs. Yet has there ever been a religion with the prophetic accuracy and reliability of science?

-Carl Sagan (The Demon-Haunted World)

[SummerSunshine1988]

@Majic490 : Your point being...?

[Majic490]

@SummerSunshine1988 Doubt everything. Find your own light.

-Last words of Gotama Buddha, in Theravada tradition

[SummerSunshine1988]

@Majic490 : I've lived in doubt quite enough for one lifetime. I choose to hang onto hope and faith in God's promises.

[Majic490]

@SummerSunshine1988 Think of how many religions attempt to validate themselves with prophecy. Think of how many people rely on these prophecies, however vague, however unfulfilled, to support or prop up their beliefs. Yet has there ever been a religion with the prophetic accuracy and reliability of science?

-Carl Sagan (The Demon-Haunted World)

[SummerSunshine1988]

@Majic490 : You already gave me that one. I believe God to be reliable.

[ViperSRTnACR]

@Majic490

Doubt can be wise yet deadly at the same time, like having a winning lottery ticket but doubting its winning numbers. Jesus spoke plainly and openly saying His purpose was to bring an understanding of God to earth and ultimatly to die for mankinds sins. A statement like that is either 100% valid or not. There's no inbetween when it comes to salvation.

[Majic490]

@ViperSRTnACR Ubi dubium ibi libertas:

Where there is doubt, there is freedom

-Latan proverb

[Majic490]

@ViperSRTnACR Christ died for our sins. Dare we make his martyrdom meaningless by not committing them?

-Jules Feiffer

[Majic490]

@ViperSRTnACR There are hundreds of millions who believe the Messiah has come. If he did, then it is unfortunately the case that his heroic sacrifice and death have had no effect whatsoever on the very problem his coming might have been expected to address, for history demonstrates, beyond question, that Christians have been just as dangerous, singly and en masse, as non-Christians.

-Steve Allen (Steve Allen, on the Bible Religion & Morality)

[Majic490]

For ages, a deadly conflict has been waged between a few brave men and women of thought and genius upon the one side, and the great ignorant religious mass on the other. This is the war between Science and Faith. The few have appealed to reason, to honor, to law, to freedom, to the known, and to happiness here in this world. The many have appealed to prejudice, to fear, to miracle, to slavery, to the unknown, and to misery hereafter. The few have said "Think" The many have said "Believe!"

[Majic490]

Religion is a disease. It is born of fear; it compensates through hate in the guise of authority, revelation. Religion, enthroned in a powerful social organization, can become incredibly sadistic. No religion has been more cruel than the Christian.

-Dr. George A. Dorsey

[GaryLyons]

@Majic490 ...religion is a disease, because all religion is made of man...most recently the religion of atheism and evolution, these have slaughtered more people in violent murder in the last century than any other man made deception of all time. Jesus Christ is not a religion, He is Lord and Savior and through Him our relationship with God is restored for all who repent and believe!

[Majic490]

@GaryLyons Think of how many religions attempt to validate themselves with prophecy. Think of how many people rely on these prophecies, however vague, however unfulfilled, to support or prop up their beliefs. Yet has there ever been a religion with the prophetic accuracy and reliability of science?

-Carl Sagan (The Demon-Haunted World)

[GaryLyons]

@Majic490 ...Nothing is more inaccurate than science, it changes every year and is never on solid ground. Nice place to put your faith, in man, and not in the God who created man. The bible is 100% accurate in its prophecies and is batting 1.000, while science says one thing, then has to crumble it up and throw it away as a mistake all the time. Jesus said - "I am the Way, and the Truth and the life, no one goes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6) This is 100% accurate my friend!

[Majic490]

@GaryLyons That is schizophrenic nonsense.....religion is based on superstition and when these superstitions become too much and overwhelm the 'BELIEVER' the end up psychotic....

[1994itwasme]

I showed this video to my christian thought class when it was my time to give prayer, and after the video my class was in tears.

[PAXXALL07]

beautiful song, jesus christ sacrifice for us,thanks for uploading this video, whats the name of the song and the band? thank you.

[Tomaldinho9]

Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

[XxXL3G3NDARYXxX]

@Tomaldinho9 tool

[MusicandMore2009]

Hi,

Simopepi adviced this song to me. Great Tip ! I like it very much ! Thanks for sharing.

God bless !

[shawna266]

God used man to write the Bible, the Bible is God's manual on life for us. He did all this for us in love, for He wants us to live life filled with love and prosperity. We need to get out of ourselves and get into God, its the only way to live!!!

[oilkings123]

also, it was not Paul who wrote the Bible...it was 40 different authors over thousands of years...i'd like to see you come up with another way past that.

[oilkings123]

you know fkghi...i have been reading this string of comments and i am honestly proud to call testcase 112 a fellow brother or sister through Christ our Lord...Jesus was named EMMANUEL which literally means GOD IS WITH US...i wonder why? or could it possibly mean a monkey decided to fling some more shit at us christians? following your logic of course

[oilkings123]

we are also the only 'creature' to reach true sentience...which means that we are the only things on this planet with a consience and the understanding to believe in god...JESUS died on the cross for us and our sins....if you think that God/Jesus/Holy Ghost would not die for us out of love...then I pity you.

[oilkings123]

I am sorry to disrupt your hate train against Christianity, but the time that Jesus would have been born would have been sometime between March and May, as that would be the only time the Shepherds would be out guarding their flocks back then...and I have a question...Why do people feel that going onto a Christian Music Video means that they should sit there and just bad-mouth the religion of over 1 billion people, and yet when we try to discount the falsities in public we are slapped around?

[Armstrong014]

I know right?

Happens Everywhere.

[HordeOfChrist]

Revelation 3:19 - "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."

[gloryboundkev]

great video, thanks. ( =

[gloryboundkev]

when Jesus suffered on the cross, He took the penalty of everyone in the world. He is the only that could. That penalty He took was the penalty that everyone in the world deserved except Jesus Christ.

[agnes2426]

this is why lord Jesus Christ show her love from us he did everything he can just to save us from our sin's i hope this sacrifice of our lord Jesus

Christ will remain to our hearth and soul Jesus truly love us thank you Jesus

[fighter4christ116]

Thats my king!

[FiLiPinOPriDe3443]

lord sacrficed alot when they hit him and made him carry the cross by him self and that cross is heavy.. lord died because he loved us....

[ambylynnlayne]

Jesus loves us and we love him and god they stay in are hearts forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[davidjohnjoshuajj]

Hello, There are many educated fool in the world. They don't get what was done for them 2000 years ago. No wonder why people have PHD degrees and still worship those animals and even a mouse as their God. Do their really understand in any language , what is the meaning of God Almighty? No wonder I call them educated fools.

[hichigohirosaki]

just about every christian knows he wasnt born on exactelly december 25th

[KGBfbiSECUpolitia]

0:04 I doN't know about Jesus giving his life for us but J C categorically saved my life. I could have been dead, disabled or in PRISON but his caring generosity, etc saved me, my sanity+soul. That's why I now owe him my life, etc. Stupid , imbeciles, fat cats farts, lazy, rude, envious, emasculated, uneducated, homoPAEDOphilES white male brit-born police cunts were ready to put me in prison too not just arrest me. J C will see from now on that brit-born animals doN't bite my ass anymore

[giugnhgbvinierngvb89]

what the fuck is this shit music?????

[altoon001]

This music video is a perfect example of why Jesus died for our sins. As long we Christians repent our sins and say sorry, Jesus will forgive us.

[elosssah]

music doesn't go with this video..generally all the songs are unsuitable here,especially in pop style

[curielr129]

Jesus had no Servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives TODAY!!!

I feel honored to serve such a Leader who loves us!!! "Your attitude should be the same as that of Jesus Christ...to the Glory of God the Father.(Phillipians 2:5-11)"

[OrthodoxDarwinist]

@curielr129

Pity he never actually existed and it's all a fable.

[wodun9]

fkghi, out of curiosity, which bible, which verse are you using as proof for you claim?

[wodun9]

fkghi. Please remember to consider the idea that not everyone here is Christian to begin with. And you have an answer with regard to the OT from someone else already.

Actually, I do know that it was Mo who took over many of these verses and turned them into prophetic messages.

[wodun9]

fkghi...what proof do you have?

[BarbieBrenda13]

The Bible!

[wodun9]

??? don't recall asking you a question, barbie....

[testcase114]

No I don't know much about Islam. I am impressed (and surprised) how Islam honors (hopefully the right word) Jesus. I am curious on what you believe. You are actually the first muslim I've ever dialoged with.

[testcase114]

Understood. I was just making a point. Life is harsh - now and then. Terribly things happen due to sin in the world. The bible records life as it was, unvarnished. I don't dispute that, but I do dispute your inference the those things are condoned in some way. Regarding Mary, I've never looked into it but I will. I'm not sure and frankly no one can say for sure.

[testcase114]

Many mistakenly view the Bible as a book of rules/laws with stories sprinkled throughout. Actually the Bible is mostly narrative with instructions given throughout. Understanding the difference is critical to Christian teaching. Truth is to be lived out. Again, seeing it as a book of rules makes life then about what I must do to be accepted by God. Rather, it is the story of how God rescued His creation from the consequences of rebellion and how in light of provision in Jesus we can now live.

[testcase114]

First, I actually wasn't mocking because I didn't know it to be true or not. That's why I asked. Second, I'm not sure about Mary but I believe scholars put her at around 14 (after puberty). That said, you are very free with your opinion of "incest, rape and porn verses in the bible" when at the same time Mohammed would have been arrested as a pedofile by today's standards. That's my point. It doesn't feel very good when on the receiving side of such harsh words. Does it.

[testcase114]

fkghi, I read that Mohammed married a six year old girl. Is that true?

[wodun9]

fkghi...I have never considered the Old Testament part of the Christian teachings. And from the similarities between those old books (Old Testament and some Judaic scripture), I can easily see how Muhammad has borrowed and changed to suit much of this material.

[wodun9]

The Most Gracious has begotten many sons and daughters and animals and plants and rocks and mountains and plains and vaginas and shit and pee and blood and bones and water and ice and snow. GOD IS ALL-THAT-IS. ALL-THAT IS IS GOD. If and when you understand that, then you understand what you and I are all about.

[testcase112]

Why should we repent that God became a man when you cannot produce one scripture (just one Bible verse) where God HIMSELF clearly says that He would never do such a thing out of love for His creation. You and I started this discussion because you said you could show me I was wrong from the Bible. So can you or not? As you know I will not accept your quote from the Quran; it is not authoritative in the least to me.

[wodun9]

fkghi, What does it matter when to celebrate an event???

If you don't like the idea of an easter bunny, don't bother with it.

REPENT is the word of those who are afraid to go to hell.

You just want other people to join you with your self tortures.

Jesus' purpose was not to create a religion. But if you really did understand his message, you would not be a muslim either.

[testcase112]

Only what you do with Jesus. Every other religion but Christianity says, "I obey, therefore I am accepted by God" but only Christianity says "I am accepted through Jesus (who he is and what he did for me), therefore I obey." When you understand the difference, you will truly understand Jesus and Christianity. It is a message of pure grace my friend, and anything else is a desperate, futile attempt to save yourself. Only grace produces real joy, real hope, real love. Only Jesus.

[testcase112]

Again, I've answered the Job 25 verse as well, so I would ask you to go back and look at my previous answer (and no son of Man does not refer to Jesus, sorry). I'll answer in the next entry more, not enough space here.

[testcase112]

No, you reject God by rejecting Jesus (John 14:6). Following the verse you gave in 1 John, when you disrespect followers of Jesus (who Paul also said he was) with your hate-filled words, you violate that passage, disrespect God, and show you do not have the love of God in you (John's point - 1 Jn 4:20). So I ask you again to look at the claims of Jesus and ask God to reveal to you the truth about His Son on this Christmas eve. Please.

[testcase112]

Again, that is the heart of what you don't understand about Christianity - it's not about what you do, but what Jesus has done for you. That's why His claims are so important.

[testcase112]

Show me one verse where God equates humans with animals. Actually in the creation account they are separated as well. Again, show me one verse where God cannot enter into His creation in order to rescue it. Regarding the verse, I've already answered John 14:28 so I would refer you to that previous entry. And, if you want me to produce a verse with the word "trinity" in it, I would ask you to produce a verse with the word "monotheism" in it. The teaching of the triunity of God is in the Bible.

[testcase112]

Once again, show me where God cannot become man to demonstrate His love and rescue His creation? It's only blasphemy if you reject the teaching of the bible.

Again, please reconsider your rejection of Jesus' claims about Himself - the One who accepted worship, forgave sins, and claimed equality with God.

[testcase112]

It's curious that you allow yourself the ability to quote sources outside Jesus' direct words but deny others the privilege. Nevertheless, 1 John 4 is related to John 1:18 (same author). No man has seen God in His fully unveiled essence, glory and majesty. However, Jesus revealed (and claimed equality with) the Father (point of John 1 and other quotes by Jesus I've sited previously) and Christians show the love of God by how they treat others (the point of John in 1 Jn 4).

[testcase112]

While horrific, I refuse to allow you to use human categories with animals. They are not analogous. That said, sin has to do with our innermost attitude toward God. We want to live our lives our way instead of acknowledging our dependence on him. We want to be our own judge in deciding what is right and wrong instead of trusting him. This is the root of man's (not a cat's) wrongdoing and sinful behavior.

Now about your reference to Deut.22:28-29 ...

[testcase112]

Ancient near eastern social/legal codes are difficult for us today to understand for sure, but this law was actually designed to protect the woman and child at that time. The bible does not condone rape anywhere. Also, it allowed for no chance of divorce and for the girl to refuse the idea. Granted, again, it is difficult to understand, kind of like a story I heard that Muhammad once married a 6 year old girl (consummated at 9 years old). If so, we have names for people like that today.

[testcase112]

@fkghi. I see you are at it again. Once again your analogy is hopelessly flawed (which I believe you already know) because animals don't sin (though all of creation has been affected by man's sin), therefore have no need of a savior. Can you produce a verse to the contrary? No. Please, this line of argument you are trying is ridiculous and transparently desperate.

As I've mentioned before you condemn yourself by denying the claims of Jesus. Please reconsider. Your hateful banter betrays you.

[testcase112]

Jesus' sacrificial death was more than sufficient to rescue all of creation. Animals have no need of an animal savior because Jesus has satisfied the righteous demands of a holy God.

[wodun9]

Yes, he/she/it does fkghi:)

[ryuchiyo360]

God is love, Jesus is love, Jesus loves you.

[wodun9]

fkghi: We ARE a portion of god. The reason you find this information unacceptable is because this information is for pius people who want the guidance. Of course your not going to understand it. The source tells us you people are deaf dumb and blind, but you perceive not.

[testcase112]

DESPERATE ATTEMPT ... again. I did not say the Bible is stupid only that the speech by the man (Bildad) in Job 25 is stupid and as I pointed out, Job rebukes him (actually mocks him really) for it in Job 26. Again, where does God say that He would never enter His creation to demonstrate His love and rescue it? Jesus forgave sins, accepted worship and claimed equality as God. You are avoiding the power of His claims.

[testcase112]

Job 25 contains a stupid speech by a man who was rebuked for it by Job himself in Job 26 and later by God. I ignored this before because it is again nothing but a desperate distraction by you. Besides using your own argument, it's not God talking anyway so I reject it on that point as well as on context. Please do yourself a favor and read these passages before throwing them up as arguments. Regarding Jesus He did reveal Himself as God but forgiving sins, accepting worship and claiming equality.

[testcase112]

Again, your making the assumption that monkeys sin and therefore have the same need for God. That is absurd and you know it. You are desperate to deny the truth that is right in front of you and I understand that. I was there once myself. But I am starting to believe that you did talk with that hippo because that is the only place you could have possibly learned that God could never have become a man.

[testcase112]

Are you saying that you cannot tell the diff between a human and an animal? Really? The last time you tried talking with a hippo (or any animal), what did you talk about? Using your argument, when was the last time you tried then to convince an animal of what you believe as you due on this forum? Assuming you haven't tried, why not? According to you, animals have the same need for God. Get real. Your avoiding the claims of Jesus, again.

[testcase112]

You're obviously making ridiculous comments to avoid the point. As I've already said, I don't equate animals with man. Only man has made the choice to rebel against God. And as I've already shown you in John 11, Jesus make eternal life conditional on believing who He revealed Himself to be. As He says in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through me." Again, what are you going to do with the claims of Jesus?

[testcase112]

@fkghi, You can believe you're a decedent of a monkey but I accept the biblical account that you are part of God's special creation, loved by your maker.

I'm still waiting for your answer. Where is it that God said that He would never enter His creation as a man in order to demonstrate His great love and rescue it?

More importantly, what are you going to do with the claims of Christ that you've read? He cares for you fkghi and I wouldn't have hung in here with you if I didn't as well.

[DancrGirl17]

What?! I think I missed something here... =)

[pito19888]

The LORD is my light and my salvation;



whom shall I fear?

The LORD is the strength of my life;

of whom shall I be afraid? jesus i love u u died for us for sins i her to bow down for u and worship u forget are sins o lord jesus u are my love my stregth my life amen

[testcase112]

You are ignoring the point ... again. Answer my challenge please. Where does God say that He would never enter His creation as a man in order to demonstrate His love and rescue it?

[testcase112]

Nope. You are ignoring again the grammar, context and point of John 11. I repeat for you again, Jesus says, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies." Jesus makes the offer of eternal life conditional on faith in HIM. This would be blasphemy for anyone to say but God. Confirming this Martha replied "Yes, Lord, I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God who comes into the world." Verse after verse shows that those who heard him understood.

[testcase112]

Says who? You? No. Arguing the same way you do, I will not accept your opinion on this. Show me where God says He would never enter His creation as a man in order to demonstrate His love and rescue it.

[testcase112]

LOL. Your desparation to ignore this issue is comedic. Ok, how about this. I'll remind you of ONE of the verses you have conveniently ignored. In John 11:25 Jesus says, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies." Jesus makes the offer of eternal life conditional on faith in HIM. This would be blasphemy for anyone to say but God. So I ask you again what are you going to do with who Jesus HIMSELF claims to be?

[testcase112]

I'll will put it to you fkghi in another way, adopting your own line of argument. I ask where does God say He would never enter His creation as a man in order to demonstrate His love and rescue it? Surely you would agree that nothing is impossible with God ... wouldn't you?? So again I ask you to consider the claims of Jesus. The one who forgave sins as God would, the one who accepted worship as God would, and the one who claimed equality with the Father as God. What will you with Jesus' claims?

[testcase112]

If I thought you were actually interested in dialogue and open minded, then I would have no problem helping you with each new verse you would surely try to put up. But that is not the case as you know. I hinted at the key to your confusion with a past comment about equality vs. function (or agency) but when you ignored the hint as you have the verses I put forward it confirmed your strategy to me. No. This is not a game. The subject is too important. Again, What will you do with the verses given

[testcase112]

LOL. Are you kidding? I've given you verse after verse, following all your little restrictions (like only listening to the words of the "prophet Jesus") and still you are the one who has no response. I told you that I will not deal with any new distractions that you try to put forward UNTIL you answer the clear verses that I listed. Your arrogance is blinding you as it did the pharisees with Jesus himself.

[testcase112]

The magnitude of Jesus' claims and the magnitude of his impact recorded in the bible and throughout the centuries demands a response fkghi. Jesus does not allow you to grant him the title of a "mere man" or "good teacher." So again, I implore of you, out of genuine concern for you, what are you going to do with the claims of Jesus, the Christ?

[testcase112]

And it is arrogance for you to prescribe to the God of the universe how YOU think that HE should have revealed himself before you accept it. In John 11:25 Jesus says, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies." Jesus makes the offer of eternal life conditional on faith in HIM. This would be blasphemy for anyone to say but God. So I ask you again what are you going to do with who Jesus HIMSELF claims to be?

[testcase112]

fkghi, are you not going to answer? How much clearer can these verses you won't respond to be? And there are so many passages I've not mentioned like John 10:30 where Jesus HIMSELF said,"I and the Father are one." And again the Jews understanding what he was saying "took up stones again to stone him." You can try to ignore these verses but Jesus did forgive sins, accept worship and claim equality with God. You are confusing equality with function in John 14:28.

[testcase112]

Sorry. I will be happy to deal with the additional verses you have raised when you answer the ones I've aready given.

Jn 8:28. ego eimi is properly translated (see any greek lexicon) and it is a clear refrence to Ex.3:14 which is why the Jews "picked up stones to throw at him." Your explanation ignores the grammar and context, again.

[testcase112]

I meant John 8:58 below. Your reference to 8:28 is confusing since as you admit it does repeat the same phrase (ego eimi) and yet the translation "I am" doesn't bother you there? Once again, it's inconsistent to use verses which you think suit your view only to ignore others which challenge your theology. Respectfully, at some point I pray that God will use his word to impress upon you the arrogance which anyone can see reflected in your language that you believe you have God all figured out.

[testcase112]

Oops. You also ignored John 8:58 which Jesus HIMSELF said, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." and you also skipped which Jesus HIMSELF says, "Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed."

You wanted first person testimony . . . .

[testcase112]

John 17:5 is the reference to go along with the entry below.

[testcase112]

I'd be happy to explain your latest verses that are confusing to you, but what about the rest of the verses that I've already given?

You're not done yet. Matthew 28:9 and John 9:38.

As I've demonstrated with these few verses Jesus forgave sins, accepted worship and claimed equality with God. I put it to you simply again, What are you going to do with the biblical Jesus - who the bible reveals and he himself claimed claimed to be?

[testcase112]

John 5:18. You can't have it both ways you can point to some texts which you think say what you want it to say and then turn around and ignore plain language at other times. The text records that the Jews who were with Jesus understood exactly what he was claiming "he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God" The testimony in this verse is also clear. I've not given in these last verses anything from Paul though obviously I could. Once again you are the one in denial.

[testcase112]

Luke 5:20. Nope. Look at the verse. Immediately the scribes and pharisees were upset accusing him of blasphemy and said "Who can forgive sins by God alone?" You explanation again ignores the text.

Luke 7:48. Sorry. I gave the wrong chapter. Here Jesus himself says, "Your sins are forgiven." Then those around him said, "Who is this, who even forgives sins?"

Matt.14:33. Nope. You are ignoring the text, again. "And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, 'Truly you are the Son of God."

Sorry.

[testcase112]

Actually I've not avoided any verses, and the response to your quote in Job is straightforward, but as I said, you must deal with the claims regarding Jesus:

He forgave sins - Luke 5:20; 8:48

He accepted worship - Matt.14:33; 28:9; John 9:38

He claimed equality - John 5:18; 8:58; 17:5

Here are few to start which I hope you consider. Also regarding Jesus dying for sins, take a look at John 1:29.

[testcase112]

Why won't you address the verses that I've already given? You can try to make this out as something "you guys" believe while ignoring what Jesus himself has said. It seems obvious that you don't want to deal with them and I understand that, but I won't address any more diversions that lead away from the central issue: What are you going to do with the claims of/about Jesus found in the scriptures?

[testcase112]

Once again you are reading into the text what you want to see. Thomas was not "in shock" but issued a statement of belief as the text plainly states. My question is again, what are you going to do with who Jesus says about himself in the passages I've given you?

[testcase112]

Jesus forgave sins, accepted worship and claimed equality with God. The Bible does not reveal the Jesus you want him to be. Respectfully again, what are you going to do with the Biblical Jesus?

[testcase111]

Sorry but respectfully I'm not the one in denial here. You really need to deal with the texts (which by the way you don't). Jesus' question was not one of denial but one of leading. The man had called Jesus "Good Teacher." Jesus was challenging the man's superficial view of "goodness." Only in understanding God as infinitely good can the man discover that human good deeds cannot earn eternal life. This was the point of Jesus - not to give a seminar on the triunity of God.

[testcase111]

And, sorry, but Jesus does not mention command 1 in the passage. What you are saying is just not there. Look at the text. He actually jumps to the final five to make his real point. I sense you've been taught that this is the best verse to challenge Christians on the deity of Jesus. I gave you a number of verses that I hope you consider concerning who Jesus himself clearly said he was. Even Thomas who doubted when seeing Jesus said "My Lord and my God!" (John 20:28).

[testcase111]

Thank you yevpak for posting the video - matching powerful images, music and lyrics to help us remember/recognize the unmatched value and beauty of what Jesus did for us all. As he said in John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

[testcase111]

Surprising verse you selected since it actually does show Jesus revealing himself to the man as God. Jesus' response "Why do you call me good?" is not a denial of his own goodness, but designed to provoke a response from the man to stop and think about who Jesus really was. The man thought Jesus was noting more than a good man (as you do). Jesus' next statement "No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19) actually reveals Jesus pointing the man towards Jesus' essential nature - that he is God.

[testcase111]

In other words, Jesus was trying to help the man understand that he (the man) could never be good enough to merit salvation. That is why Jesus then lists commands 5-9 and then asks him a question which goes at the heart of the 10th (on coveting). The man then walks away betraying the fact that he loved money more than God.

[testcase111]

Every other religion but Christianity says, "I obey, therefore I am accepted by God" but Christianity says "I am accepted through Jesus (who he is and what he did for me), therefore I obey. I'm sincerely not trying to irritate you but I do hope that God allows you to recognize what these passages are really saying. There are not a hundred verses that prove your point, not even the one you produced was able to do that.

[testcase111]

My instinct is to avoid proof-texting this with you, but I would like you to consider verses like those found around John 5:18 which plainly states that Jesus was claiming equality with God. It's the reason why the religious leaders wanted to kill him. Or the passage around John 8:58 or John 17:5 or Philippians 2:5-11. I could go on, but I do hope that this Christmas season you do see Jesus as Immanuel - God is with us.

[testcase111]

Respectfully, if you don't believe that Jesus was who he himself said he was or did what the Bible plainly says he did, then you really don't know the bible like you think you do.

[yevpak]

Is this true, or you just trying to provoke an argument? If this is true, I would like to help this poor woman.

[ctd113092]

this is to anyone who is not a beliver i don't want to pressure anyone but i'm christian i know jesus died for me on the cross for my sins and took my place so for that i'm grateful but if u have any questions please feel free to ask me! opened minded

[quarrelsomeness]

Power derives from energy, energy is material, god is non-material.. sooo...? were is he?

[matexson92]

werry nice video

[elvizgab69]

reaching out seeking for the higher power

[quarrelsomeness]

and were is...? the higher power?

[elvizgab69]

do you not know where is the higher power my friend ?do i even have to say god ,isn't it selfexplendatory,who's more powerfull than god ......nobody ,nobody. god bless you and your family

[westonjesusfreak]

he said were not who were

and God is in all the redemed for we are his temple