All you people arguing about vitamin D. CLUELESS. You can take synthetic D and measure it in the blood. Thats it. It does nothing. However get sunshine, eat raw egg yolks from free range-drug free hens and that vitamin D will do something. You can eat salmon but because radiation is building the food chain from fukashima I would avoid it. Those are your three choices for vitamin D. I stick to raw egg yolks @5 a day and full body tanning.
5-15,000 IU of D is what's normally given for deficiency. You need D if you want your immune system to work and you don't want cancer or osteoporosis.
I'm pretty sure cave men didn't shield themselves from the sun with sunscreen...but most people do and they don't get any vitamin d. The crap they put in milk is not the kind you absorb. D2 is made using radiation. Take D3.
@arcanaknight, um yes there are actual studies showing higher amount of vitamin d are beneficial. iOM ignored all vitamin d experts. IOM is useless. You didn't even do a proper research. Go to vitamin d council website and look through research on the left side.
This is so irritating. My child has Autism and has NEVER had a single vaccine. I wish people would stop focusing on vaccines and focus on Autism as a whole.
Have you gone to his website? I looked around and there it is - Vitamin D! I personally think severe vitamin D deficiency may be the root cause for autism. Dr. Mayer also made sure everybody gets enough vitamin D which turns out to be correct dosage unlike gov't and mainstream medical establishment that tell us to take. Go to vitamin D council website and check out its autism section. That will explain the link between autism and vitamin D in great details.
"Anyone that does not see the link between vaccines and autism simply is not looking."
So in other words, pretty much everyone who is a medical professional, every single reputable health organization on planet Earth & of course every1 who disagrees w/ you. Got. Hubris, they name is Lynn1966able!
birdlady, there have been about 4-5 vacinations given by the age of 2-3 actually, and only one is needed to cause and adverse reaction. I think there is valid reasoning for investigation.
It's very sad when people just fall for this BS without doing their research. There is NO solid scientific proof that vaccines cause autism. Autism is usually ddetected by age 2 or 3 - how many vaccines have been given by that age? I grew up in the 60's and we all had vaccines for everything under the sun....that's when he says there was 1 in 10,000.
I don't know how children in his practice can go to school or travel because children must be vaccinated to do either. This is junk medecine.
Actually, you didn't do your research properly. You're just repeating what mainstream medical establishment is telling everybody. They actually caused far more damages - ever hear of vitamin D deficiency? They caused it. It's going to cost us 4 trillion of dollars in medical expense over the next 10 years. And yes, it played a major role (or maybe root cause) for autism. Vaccines merely made the unseen symptoms of autism much worse... Autistic kids tend to have very low vitamin D.
Go to home first website and you will see that the doctor put a huge emphasis on proper vitamin D dosage. That would explain why autism rate is such low. Go to vitamin D council and check out its autism section. It will explain the link between autism and vitamin D. Most doctors are unaware of it because they were not taught vitamin D in such great detail. Now, who's the hypocrite? You are for not doing research. Have a good day.
@tungsten33 First of all, Mayer's Vit D recommendations are way off. The IOM recently released a report showing that not only are many less people deficient than previously estimated, but that guidelines like Mayer's are way off. Most people only need 400-800 UI a day with the upper limit set at 4,000; Mayer recommends 10k a day for adults and even more at the first signs of flu. Super-loading supplements has no beneficial effect (it can even have a detrimental one if dosage is high enough).
While there are negative health effects for being deficient in a particular vitamin, there is no evidence to show that taking more than is needed is beneficial to one's health because people are either deficient or sufficient in a particular vitamin; super-loading on vitamins will at best just have the excess expelled from our systems along with the rest of the waste (resulting in vitamin-rich urine), and at worst kill us as it nearly did to Gary Null.
Lame. Gary Null was taking 2,000,000 IU a day thanks to screw up by supplement manufacturer. It was supposed to be 2,000 IU a day. He recovered. Quit with misleading BS like that.
@tungsten33 Even if you accept Null's version of the story, 2k IU of Vitamin D is well above the recommended daily amount and even then is still 5x-100x less than the amount that Mayer is recommending.
You should check your sources too; the Vitamin D Council is just something made up by the quack doctor John Cannell (who believes vitamin D is a panacea that can be used as a replacement for vaccines, cures cancer as well as a number of diseases, etc) to peddle his theories.
Anyone that does not see the link between vaccines and autism simply is not looking. It does not take a genuis to figure this out. You are being fooled if you believe otherwise. Do the research and see for yourself. The goverenment lies about this like they lie and cover up about so many different things.
Its been announced by the Main Stream Media, first that Thimerasol was taken out, (of course), then announced they left it in as a sterilizer, not a preservative.
The decision is a simple one:
Who are you going to believe, The LYING US Citizen Murdering Impostor US (Federal or Banking) Government and The Sheople who parrot their lies, or The NWO Made Man College God Eugenicist Bill Gates who says that vaccines are to depopulate the Earth, (just like it says on the Georgia Guide Stones) by 15%?
The conspiracy theory's a favorite for the paranoid. It's a convenient answer when the numbers just don't add up. It takes no real proof & often the lack of proof is just proof it exists! They just KNOW they have "The Truth" & are uninterested in anything that may challenge that belief. Science & evidence don't matter other than how they can be twisted to reach the desired conclusions & any scientific evidence conflicting w/ that belief is seen as the result of a coverup. This is how cults work
foresam, who are you talking about? As I've already pointed out, there's no mercury in the childhood vaccines. NONE.
& though vaccines are not 100% safe, nothing is. So why the massive campaign against life-saving medicine that has proven far safer than seat belts, airbags & condoms combined?
If it's really about the children as you claim, then you should be encouraging more vaccination as far more infants die BECAUSE of low vaccination rates, like Dana McCaffery, than from vaccine injury?
@mjr256: Perhaps you live in one of the countries that does not use thimerosal in vaccines, but here in America, they do. Or perhaps your reply was a smart-assed one, as there is no elemental mercury (which is much less hazardous) but there are mercury *compounds*, which are very toxic.
Actually mctrlsys, thimerosal was removed from most vaccines & all childhood vaccines in the U.S. in 2001 & the ,trace amounts of the ethylmercury used in some vaccines is far less "toxic" than elemental methylmercury. So I'm sorry but you've been horribly misinformed. These are facts that not a single reputable medical organization in the world denies & the studies demonstrating this are easily available. So I'm going to have to ask for the sources of your information.
"ou are trolling. Find somewhere else to do it, please. "
On the contrary, a troll distracts from the subject matter of the forum whereas I'm specifically addressing the topic being discussed here. You simply don't like what I have to say because I disagree with your ideology. Well sorry, but the facts are the facts whether you like them or not.
That's great that you think that but where's your evidence? You don't have any & you know it. You have no science background & have no basis on which to judge this. You simply believe it because it furthers your delusion by justifying your arrogance & allowing you to dodge the fact that you don't actually understand any of the science you criticize. So you'll happily point to any fringe nutter who tells you what you want to hear but will instantly reject any evidence presented against you.
"Autism rates continue to rise, but vaccination rates have remained the same for years - to me that shows that their isn't a correlation!"
As far as I am conc erned, the fact that autism rates increased along with the addition of more vaccines to the vax schedule means that vaccines are resposible for the increase in autism.
Thank you for the read, but I think both pro & con vaccination groups are too biased to believe.
That said, I am still Pro vaccine because I would MUCH rather have an autistic child then risk them dying of a horrible disease (no mater how rare!) For example: The prevalence of Autism is about 1 in 200. The Prevalence for Meningitis: 1 in 1,000
I'd rather take the risk and have an Autistic child then take the risk for a dead one!
I have a friend whose daughter suffered severe brain damage from a vaccine when she was a baby, who is now over 30 years old, still can't speak, is severely retarded and has several fits of severe convulsions every day. She would have been better off dead, for her own as well as her mother's sake.
As often happens in such cases, her husband left them to fend for themselves, early in the piece. The care for this vaccine injured person has also cost German tax-payers well over one million Euro.
All supposedly "vaccine-preventable" diseases (there is really no such thing) are treatable by orthodox medical and alternative means, and BTW, meningitis is caused - not prevented - by vaccination.
"All supposedly "vaccine-preventable" diseases (there is really no such thing)" 1. Small pox 2. Polio 3. Pertussis 4. Influenza 5. Measles 6. Mumps 7. Rubella 8. Hep A 9. Hep B 10. HiB 11. Chicken pox 12. Rotivirus 13. Pneumonia That's 13 diseases off the top of my head that are undeniably preventable through vaccines.
Wrong again. I and quite a number of researchers including medical doctors deny that they are preventable, so they are obviously not "undeniably preventable", if you get my drift.
That these diseases are preventable, is a belief - either your or other people's belief; that doesn't mean that it's a fact. I and others, including the above mentioned medical doctors, say it's not a fact. So it's just your and others word against mine, and other non-believers' word'.
That's also why vaccination is a belief system similar to a religion, or a cult; it's not a science.
No, the mountains of evidence means it's a fact. You can't have it both ways. If you're going to argue that because some1 w/ an MD next to their name makes them right, there are more who disagree w/ you than agree.
Appeals to authority are fallacious. What matters is the evidence & the consensus of expert opinions in the related specialty.
You cherry-pick your experts. You cherry-pick your facts. And then you dismiss the entire scientific process to avoid having to address the science.
"you dismiss the entire scientific process to avoid having to address the science."
What science? You are so deluded that you just can't see that this whole vaccine business is an organised criminal enterprise! Maybe the penny will drop one of these days, but it won't until you can admit to the possibility that you have been the victim of brain-washing, just as I was, and so many others were, or still are.
Undeniable by people who have examined some of the 100+ years of medical literature on the subject, who actually know what they're talking about, who aren't biased against information that goes against their anti-scientific ideology, who care about what's true more than their own selfish need to be contrarian, who practice medicine and specialize in infectious disease, and by every reputable medical organization on the planet.
mjr - ever heard of the term 'vested interest'? Most doctors are brain-washed to the point where all common sense has been educated out of them. Even most of those who know or suspect that vaccines are crap, keep their mouths shut, because they see what happens to doctors like Andrew Wakefield when they speak up. The few who do blow the whistle and denounce vaccination as child abuse and a crime against humanity are harrassed, vilified and persecuted.
Not you though. You're the REAL expert, not those silly scientists w/ their facts & who have actually practiced medicine & researched this stuff for decades. Nope, they should have all just gone to Google University like you. The internet doesn't have enough bandwidth to contain your enormous ego.
Science is designed to be self-correcting. Claims are rigorously tested through peer review. Whereas you'll believe anything that supports your ideology.
"Claims are rigorously tested through peer review."
Hahahahahahahahahaaaaah! Please say that again, so I can laugh some more! Don't you get that it's all pseudo-science, junk science, tobacco science and Micky Mouse science? Google this to get a bit of a clue, you clueless wonder:
"Big Pharma researcher admits to faking dozens of research studies for Pfizer, Merck"
Merck also got shadow writers to come up with safety studies for Vioxx, then got "reputable" doctors" to put their name them. The rest is history: some 55000 people reportedly died from Merck's supposedly safe Vioxx drug.
1. Autism is a neurological condition known to be at least partly, if not entirely due to genes. No legitimate evidence has shown it's the result of "damage"
2. There are many kinds of neurological conditions. Autism specifically refers to learning & social impairments
3. Autism is not the same as mental retardation
4. I feel sorry for your friend's daughter for having to live in a world w/ ignorant fools who think they're better off dead
My friend Dr med G Buchwald used to say to parents when he was lecturing that although it's a tragedy for the parents if a child dies due to a vaccinaton, it can be overcome with time, and that in many cases the parents concerned can have another baby to make up for their loss.
It's different with a vaccine injury, e.g in the case of a child who is severely autistic or retarded or suffering from daily convulsions. Many parents are living a nightmare they can't escape from (except for the husbands who often abandon ship because they con't cope with the stress), and one that will in many cases outlive them.
My friend Dr med G Buchwald's only son was brain damaged by a smallpox vaccine at the age of 18 months. Severely retarded, he's now over 50, still can't talk, shave or brush his teeth. His father recently died at the age of 89 and his mother is over 80. Her son now lives in a home for the intellectually handicapped, Once she's gone, he'll become a ward of the state.
Such cases, and there are many, are not taken into account when doing risk-benefit analysis. This is understandable, because if they were, it would immediately show what a horrendous burden and blight vaccinations are on society, and this barbaric money-making racket would have to be stopped.
The "mercury free" vaccines all still have mercury in them according to Boyd Haley University of KY. And according to the CDC, the following vaccines which are marketed as mercury free, actually do have mercury in them (less than 3mcgs per vaccine) DTaP (Tripedia) DTaP/HIB (TriHIBit) DT (Sanofi) Hep B (Engerix-B) Hep A/Hep B (Twinrix) Influenza (Fluarix, Flulaval, Fluvirin and Fluzone brands) Japanese Encephalitis (JE-Vax) Meningococcal (Menomune) DT (Decavac) DT (Massachusetts)
Autism worse than heart disease & cancer? Did you seriously say that? You'd rather see kids die of cancer than live w/ autism? Really?
Actually "Doctor", there are LOTS of things different now than in the past. Why not blame the internet or cell phones while you're at it? How about women having kids well into their 40's? Or something in testosterone since boys are times more likely to have autism than girls? You know, something that actually is correlated w/ autism in peer-reviewed studies.
Now mercury is supposedly greatly reduced, but aluminum is high. My son is vaccine injured and has high levels of lead, aluminum, mercury, and cadmium. He is going through chelation therapy and in 8 months has gone from severely mentally retarded and having low functioning autism, to having NO mental retardation but still has low functioning autism. Self injurious behaviors used to occur 50+ times a day, now 5 times a day tops.
Well you must not live in the U.S. because there's no mercury or aluminum in any of our childhood vaccines. Mental retardation and autism are two completely different things. Is your son mentally retarded or autistic?
No, Wakefield's paper was retracted by the Lancet, who called his research "describing Wakefield's research as "fatally flawed."
And the GMC ruled that Wakefield "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly."
But injecting babies and children with toxic vaccines that make them ill, or may cripple or kill them is ok? Drug company profits are obviously far more important.
Those "toxic" vaccines save millions of lives & are linked to far less negative side effects than seatbelts, airbags & condoms. They're also among the least profitable medical procedures there is & often manufacturers produce them at a loss. That's why so many vaccine manufactures went bankrupt in the 80s. And not a single one of the antivaxxer claims has ever held up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny and yet that hasn't stopped them from continuing to make the same long debunked claims.
There was no autism before mercury was added to vaccines in 1931. I think we can conclude it's the mercury since vaccines without mercury never caused autism between 1798 and 1930.
Unfortunately, and I know this for a fact (check CDC site for proof) there IS still mercury (thimerosol) in some of the vaccines. And it's not the only adjuvant that is causing problems. Aluminum in the flu shots for one. Alzheimers patients are shown with a build-up of AL in their brain. Yet we insist on giving them flu, H1N1 and pneumonia vaccines every year(!) that's 3 in every year as soon as they hit the danger zone for Alzheimers. Isn't that the definition of insanity?
1. Thimerosal is only in MULTIDOSE flu vaccines, which are not given to children. & to call it "mercury" is misleading. Thimerosal is ethylmercury-based & ethylmercury is not the same thing as elemental mercury
2. Thimerosal is an antiseptic, not an adjuvant. If you can't tell the difference, your argument loses all credibility
3. Aluminum is not in the flu vaccines & is not used as an adjuvant in the U.S.
I don't know who that is. And of course they're NOT linked to Alzheimers (yet). I don't understand the tone of voice what-so-ever. You've lost any hope of converting me to your way of thinking. I am not an idiot just because I don't understand all this nonsense 120% as your are obviously purporting to. And I wouldn't take YOUR word for anything you just said anyway. I read scientific journals from all over the world in two languages for the research I've been doing for 2.5 years.
Yes, reject facts because you don't like people's tone. That will show me. You stated that you knew something "for a fact" that is at best inaccurate & at worst completely wrong. & whether you know him or not, you're parroting the talking points of a notorious propagandist in the comments section of another propaganda video
I don't want to you "take my word for anything." Don't take ANYONE'S word for it. If you care about this issue, do proper research before making scientific claims.
I used to believe in vaccination too, for the best part of my life, until I came across evdence which clearly showed that vaccines have never protected anyone or saved anyone's life.
"Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity."
As far as I'm concerned: tomato/tomahto; mercury/thimerosol. It doesn't matter WHAT it's in there for; IT'S IN THERE. Nice way to mislead others while you deminish my intelligence/credibility to make sure nobody listens to my comments. Good luck with that.
"As far as I'm concerned: tomato/tomahto; mercury/thimerosol. It doesn't matter WHAT it's in there for; IT'S IN THERE."
No, as I pointed out, there entirely different things and they're NOT in there. What happened to all that 2.5 years of research you claim to have done?
And if you remove the periods, you can post URLs.
Here's the CDC's recommended childhood vaccine schedule:
cdc gov/vaccines/recs/schedules/downloads/child/2010/10_0-6yrs-schedule-pr pdf
I do not get your logic. How can one go from no vaccine to no autism when it was originally 1-1000 cases of autism. If there were cases of autism prior to vaccines, how could no vaccinations equate to no autism. You may argue that it may decrease the number, but to say no autism is simply irresponsible and dangerous.
good point but i think he misspoke. In other words the vast majority of cases are linked to autism.. Otherwise the few cases that had occurred in the past most likely were the result of exposure to some of the harmful ingredients in vaccince, yet coming from sources other than a vaccine injection.
Though i have to agree that with issues as serious and controversial as this, it can be a serious issue to misstate in such an obvious way. Though i still can infer the meaning as i said here.
He's saying that there is no autism among the 30000 - 35000 unvaccinated children under Homefirst's care, and that he believes that this absence of autism is linked to their being unvaccinated. Fair enough.
I know of a family in New Zealand with 6 children, 3 of them vaccinated, 3 of them unvaccinated. The 3 vaccinated children are autistic, the 3 unvaccinated children normal. Coincidence?
I see. Thanks for the correction. Still, as i Said before, Autism may be possible from being exposed to similar toxins (aluminum, mercury, etc) in other ways, which might be a logical explanation for autism occurring before vaccines were used. Yet, it would occur at a much lower rate than today with vaccines, due to how vaccines are administered and the scale of usage. drtenpenny. com
In 1977, ten babies died in a Toronto hospital when an antiseptic containing Thiomersal (49% ethyl mercury) was dabbed on their umbilical cords, yet Thiomersal was added to increasing numbers of childhood vaccines.
The only question is whether the people responsible for adding mercury to vaccines are only mad, or whether they are evil, or both.
my feeling is that the individuals actually carrying this out are mostly brainwashed and/or mad, and the ones who plan this and set it up are actually "evil". A compartmentalized pyramid scheme, akin to the need-to-know-basis used by the military. People are given a story and belief system to help them justify their actions so they likely dont know they are harming others. The "planners" only need to really have the full story and understanding and in turn are "evil"
Wow, considering the odds of autism are 1 in 110 kids w/ boys being 4 times more susceptible than girls, your friend must have won the autism lottery there. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the genes. Nah, just the vaccines. And all those thousands of unvaccinated people w/ autism must be lying. Yeah, that's the ticket!
If it's genes, obviously it's genes + something else. What is the CATALYST if the genes are the recessive bomb waiting to be sparked? And it can't just be genes at the recessive because otherwise other circumstances where families have NO autism in their family and suddenly end up with one doesn't fit into that theory. There are multiple types of autism is the problem. Just like with many disorders of the blood or body chemicals.
Nobody denies that environmental components may play a role in autism, though I don't think they are actually necessary. And if they do exist, those environmental components almost certainly occur in the prenatal stage.
But one thing that medical experts all agree on is that the overwhelming evidence shows it's got nothing to do w/ vaccines. And there are dozens of peer-reviewed studies published in reputable journals to back that up.
So, all medical experts agree? Indeed - after they all met at a secret conference at Simpsonwood where they decided to deny the link and to admit nothing! They know full well that vaccines cause autism, but to admit it would cause a flood of compensation claims and prosecutions. So, what must not be cannot be: vaccines don't cause autism even though they do!
You can find fringe doctors who deny smoking causes cancer. What matters is the peer-reviewed evidence & consensus of expert medical opinions in the related specialty
But funny how doctors are not to be trusted except those who support your ideology. Then we should credulously take their word as gospel. This is confirmation bias. Real science demands ideas be properly vetted to see if they have merit. You reject the process & any conclusion you don't like.
I used to believe in vaccination for most of my life - until I came across infectious diseases graphs in the book "Animal Research Takes Lives" by Bette Overell. You can find them by googling the title, then going to the chapter on vaccination.
The graphs clearly show that vaccines have never prevented any diseases. So, for me it's just a case of knowing what I know. I don't really care what's true for you or anyone else. You get all the vaccines you want - I won't have any more vaccines - ever.
@vaccineshurtbabies Umm, any person who has taken 5 minutes out of their day to do some research. The numbers are there, there were cases of autism prior to them, and that is not even the debate. The question is whether or not there is some correlation between the two.
So far, the main study that was referenced and used in support of the claim has been retracted, it is looking less and less likely.
why dont you look up "vaccines the risks, the benefits, the choices" by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. Please actually WATCH the film before commenting, or replying... This film does exhaustive research on the topic of vaccines. Also, drtenpenny. com has additional info that is well researched and sourced.
All you people arguing about vitamin D. CLUELESS. You can take synthetic D and measure it in the blood. Thats it. It does nothing. However get sunshine, eat raw egg yolks from free range-drug free hens and that vitamin D will do something. You can eat salmon but because radiation is building the food chain from fukashima I would avoid it. Those are your three choices for vitamin D. I stick to raw egg yolks @5 a day and full body tanning.
soulflyz88 1 month ago
5-15,000 IU of D is what's normally given for deficiency. You need D if you want your immune system to work and you don't want cancer or osteoporosis.
I'm pretty sure cave men didn't shield themselves from the sun with sunscreen...but most people do and they don't get any vitamin d. The crap they put in milk is not the kind you absorb. D2 is made using radiation. Take D3.
QueenPaxi 10 months ago
Gary null took millions iu of vitamin d a day due to screw up by supplement manufacture. Quit with misleading bs.
tungsten33 1 year ago
@arcanaknight, um yes there are actual studies showing higher amount of vitamin d are beneficial. iOM ignored all vitamin d experts. IOM is useless. You didn't even do a proper research. Go to vitamin d council website and look through research on the left side.
tungsten33 1 year ago
This is so irritating. My child has Autism and has NEVER had a single vaccine. I wish people would stop focusing on vaccines and focus on Autism as a whole.
mrsjamesdean44 1 year ago
@mrsjamesdean44 ,
Have you gone to his website? I looked around and there it is - Vitamin D! I personally think severe vitamin D deficiency may be the root cause for autism. Dr. Mayer also made sure everybody gets enough vitamin D which turns out to be correct dosage unlike gov't and mainstream medical establishment that tell us to take. Go to vitamin D council website and check out its autism section. That will explain the link between autism and vitamin D in great details.
tungsten33 1 year ago
"Anyone that does not see the link between vaccines and autism simply is not looking."
So in other words, pretty much everyone who is a medical professional, every single reputable health organization on planet Earth & of course every1 who disagrees w/ you. Got. Hubris, they name is Lynn1966able!
mjr256 1 year ago
birdlady, there have been about 4-5 vacinations given by the age of 2-3 actually, and only one is needed to cause and adverse reaction. I think there is valid reasoning for investigation.
leah2604 1 year ago
It's very sad when people just fall for this BS without doing their research. There is NO solid scientific proof that vaccines cause autism. Autism is usually ddetected by age 2 or 3 - how many vaccines have been given by that age? I grew up in the 60's and we all had vaccines for everything under the sun....that's when he says there was 1 in 10,000.
I don't know how children in his practice can go to school or travel because children must be vaccinated to do either. This is junk medecine.
birdlady520 1 year ago 2
@birdlady520
Actually, you didn't do your research properly. You're just repeating what mainstream medical establishment is telling everybody. They actually caused far more damages - ever hear of vitamin D deficiency? They caused it. It's going to cost us 4 trillion of dollars in medical expense over the next 10 years. And yes, it played a major role (or maybe root cause) for autism. Vaccines merely made the unseen symptoms of autism much worse... Autistic kids tend to have very low vitamin D.
tungsten33 1 year ago
@birdlady520
Go to home first website and you will see that the doctor put a huge emphasis on proper vitamin D dosage. That would explain why autism rate is such low. Go to vitamin D council and check out its autism section. It will explain the link between autism and vitamin D. Most doctors are unaware of it because they were not taught vitamin D in such great detail. Now, who's the hypocrite? You are for not doing research. Have a good day.
tungsten33 1 year ago
@tungsten33 First of all, Mayer's Vit D recommendations are way off. The IOM recently released a report showing that not only are many less people deficient than previously estimated, but that guidelines like Mayer's are way off. Most people only need 400-800 UI a day with the upper limit set at 4,000; Mayer recommends 10k a day for adults and even more at the first signs of flu. Super-loading supplements has no beneficial effect (it can even have a detrimental one if dosage is high enough).
ArcanaKnight 1 year ago
While there are negative health effects for being deficient in a particular vitamin, there is no evidence to show that taking more than is needed is beneficial to one's health because people are either deficient or sufficient in a particular vitamin; super-loading on vitamins will at best just have the excess expelled from our systems along with the rest of the waste (resulting in vitamin-rich urine), and at worst kill us as it nearly did to Gary Null.
ArcanaKnight 1 year ago
@ArcanaKnight
Lame. Gary Null was taking 2,000,000 IU a day thanks to screw up by supplement manufacturer. It was supposed to be 2,000 IU a day. He recovered. Quit with misleading BS like that.
tungsten33 1 year ago
@tungsten33 Even if you accept Null's version of the story, 2k IU of Vitamin D is well above the recommended daily amount and even then is still 5x-100x less than the amount that Mayer is recommending.
You should check your sources too; the Vitamin D Council is just something made up by the quack doctor John Cannell (who believes vitamin D is a panacea that can be used as a replacement for vaccines, cures cancer as well as a number of diseases, etc) to peddle his theories.
ArcanaKnight 1 year ago
@ArcanaKnight IOM totally ignored all the evidences put out by 14 Vitamin D experts.
How about you do actual research on pubmed? Plenty of studies...
Nice try!
tungsten33 1 year ago
Anyone that does not see the link between vaccines and autism simply is not looking. It does not take a genuis to figure this out. You are being fooled if you believe otherwise. Do the research and see for yourself. The goverenment lies about this like they lie and cover up about so many different things.
Lynn1966able 1 year ago
Its been announced by the Main Stream Media, first that Thimerasol was taken out, (of course), then announced they left it in as a sterilizer, not a preservative.
The decision is a simple one:
Who are you going to believe, The LYING US Citizen Murdering Impostor US (Federal or Banking) Government and The Sheople who parrot their lies, or The NWO Made Man College God Eugenicist Bill Gates who says that vaccines are to depopulate the Earth, (just like it says on the Georgia Guide Stones) by 15%?
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
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verbalmilitia 1 year ago
KEEP SPREADING THE TRUTH!!
1jtbt1 1 year ago
It's nice to see a medical professional who is not afraid to speak out against popular opinion.
lyricsma 1 year ago
No, but I think he may have used you in an advertisement for abortion.
mjr256 1 year ago
The conspiracy theory's a favorite for the paranoid. It's a convenient answer when the numbers just don't add up. It takes no real proof & often the lack of proof is just proof it exists! They just KNOW they have "The Truth" & are uninterested in anything that may challenge that belief. Science & evidence don't matter other than how they can be twisted to reach the desired conclusions & any scientific evidence conflicting w/ that belief is seen as the result of a coverup. This is how cults work
mjr256 2 years ago
@mjr256 How come sadists who support mangling babies' brains with mercury call people names? Does that make you any less of a baby poisoner?
Why don't you go pluck the wings off of baby birds to get your kicks and stay away from our children?
foresam 2 years ago
foresam, who are you talking about? As I've already pointed out, there's no mercury in the childhood vaccines. NONE.
& though vaccines are not 100% safe, nothing is. So why the massive campaign against life-saving medicine that has proven far safer than seat belts, airbags & condoms combined?
If it's really about the children as you claim, then you should be encouraging more vaccination as far more infants die BECAUSE of low vaccination rates, like Dana McCaffery, than from vaccine injury?
mjr256 2 years ago
@mjr256
Didn't your father present you as evidence in a successful case against a condom manufacturer?
foresam 1 year ago
@mjr256: Perhaps you live in one of the countries that does not use thimerosal in vaccines, but here in America, they do. Or perhaps your reply was a smart-assed one, as there is no elemental mercury (which is much less hazardous) but there are mercury *compounds*, which are very toxic.
Or perhaps you're simply ignorant.
your reply is apparently a smart ass one
mctrlsys 1 year ago
@mctrlsys
Actually mctrlsys, thimerosal was removed from most vaccines & all childhood vaccines in the U.S. in 2001 & the ,trace amounts of the ethylmercury used in some vaccines is far less "toxic" than elemental methylmercury. So I'm sorry but you've been horribly misinformed. These are facts that not a single reputable medical organization in the world denies & the studies demonstrating this are easily available. So I'm going to have to ask for the sources of your information.
mjr256 1 year ago
You're right!
But don't bother trying to convince "vaccineskillbabies" with a name like that, you know they are hella biased and way past logic!
AdMeliora1 2 years ago
@mjr256 You are trolling. Find somewhere else to do it, please.
mctrlsys 1 year ago
@mctrlsys
"ou are trolling. Find somewhere else to do it, please. "
On the contrary, a troll distracts from the subject matter of the forum whereas I'm specifically addressing the topic being discussed here. You simply don't like what I have to say because I disagree with your ideology. Well sorry, but the facts are the facts whether you like them or not.
mjr256 1 year ago
That's great that you think that but where's your evidence? You don't have any & you know it. You have no science background & have no basis on which to judge this. You simply believe it because it furthers your delusion by justifying your arrogance & allowing you to dodge the fact that you don't actually understand any of the science you criticize. So you'll happily point to any fringe nutter who tells you what you want to hear but will instantly reject any evidence presented against you.
mjr256 2 years ago
@mjr256 is a TROLL -- DON"T FEED THE TROLLS by answering them!
Ignore them and they will look for somewhere else to be annoying!!
mctrlsys 1 year ago
I wish you were in my town!
soblessed12 2 years ago
One more thing I'd like to say:
Autism rates continue to rise, but vaccination rates have remained the same for years - to me that shows that their isn't a correlation!
AdMeliora1 2 years ago
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"Autism rates continue to rise, but vaccination rates have remained the same for years - to me that shows that their isn't a correlation!"
As far as I am conc erned, the fact that autism rates increased along with the addition of more vaccines to the vax schedule means that vaccines are resposible for the increase in autism.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
It's not letting me post the link to the CDC's own website listing the ingredients. Aluminum IS contained in the flu vaccines.
almirati 2 years ago
Gawd, I hate quack "doctors" and there easy answers! Do you really think a complex condition like Autism is solely caused by only 1 thing? Ignorant!
AdMeliora1 2 years ago
@AdMeliora1
Not solely - just mostly!
Google and read "Deadly Immunity" by Robert F Kennedy Jnr.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
@vaccineshurtbabies
Thank you for the read, but I think both pro & con vaccination groups are too biased to believe.
That said, I am still Pro vaccine because I would MUCH rather have an autistic child then risk them dying of a horrible disease (no mater how rare!) For example: The prevalence of Autism is about 1 in 200. The Prevalence for Meningitis: 1 in 1,000
I'd rather take the risk and have an Autistic child then take the risk for a dead one!
AdMeliora1 2 years ago
AdMeliora1
I have a friend whose daughter suffered severe brain damage from a vaccine when she was a baby, who is now over 30 years old, still can't speak, is severely retarded and has several fits of severe convulsions every day. She would have been better off dead, for her own as well as her mother's sake.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
As often happens in such cases, her husband left them to fend for themselves, early in the piece. The care for this vaccine injured person has also cost German tax-payers well over one million Euro.
All supposedly "vaccine-preventable" diseases (there is really no such thing) are treatable by orthodox medical and alternative means, and BTW, meningitis is caused - not prevented - by vaccination.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
mjr256 2 years ago
13 undeniably preventable diseases?
Wrong again. I and quite a number of researchers including medical doctors deny that they are preventable, so they are obviously not "undeniably preventable", if you get my drift.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Contd.
That these diseases are preventable, is a belief - either your or other people's belief; that doesn't mean that it's a fact. I and others, including the above mentioned medical doctors, say it's not a fact. So it's just your and others word against mine, and other non-believers' word'.
That's also why vaccination is a belief system similar to a religion, or a cult; it's not a science.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
No, the mountains of evidence means it's a fact. You can't have it both ways. If you're going to argue that because some1 w/ an MD next to their name makes them right, there are more who disagree w/ you than agree.
Appeals to authority are fallacious. What matters is the evidence & the consensus of expert opinions in the related specialty.
You cherry-pick your experts. You cherry-pick your facts. And then you dismiss the entire scientific process to avoid having to address the science.
mjr256 2 years ago
"you dismiss the entire scientific process to avoid having to address the science."
What science? You are so deluded that you just can't see that this whole vaccine business is an organised criminal enterprise! Maybe the penny will drop one of these days, but it won't until you can admit to the possibility that you have been the victim of brain-washing, just as I was, and so many others were, or still are.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Undeniable by people who have examined some of the 100+ years of medical literature on the subject, who actually know what they're talking about, who aren't biased against information that goes against their anti-scientific ideology, who care about what's true more than their own selfish need to be contrarian, who practice medicine and specialize in infectious disease, and by every reputable medical organization on the planet.
mjr256 2 years ago
mjr - ever heard of the term 'vested interest'? Most doctors are brain-washed to the point where all common sense has been educated out of them. Even most of those who know or suspect that vaccines are crap, keep their mouths shut, because they see what happens to doctors like Andrew Wakefield when they speak up. The few who do blow the whistle and denounce vaccination as child abuse and a crime against humanity are harrassed, vilified and persecuted.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
"Most doctors are brain-washed"
Not you though. You're the REAL expert, not those silly scientists w/ their facts & who have actually practiced medicine & researched this stuff for decades. Nope, they should have all just gone to Google University like you. The internet doesn't have enough bandwidth to contain your enormous ego.
Science is designed to be self-correcting. Claims are rigorously tested through peer review. Whereas you'll believe anything that supports your ideology.
mjr256 2 years ago
"Claims are rigorously tested through peer review."
Hahahahahahahahahaaaaah! Please say that again, so I can laugh some more! Don't you get that it's all pseudo-science, junk science, tobacco science and Micky Mouse science? Google this to get a bit of a clue, you clueless wonder:
"Big Pharma researcher admits to faking dozens of research studies for Pfizer, Merck"
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Contd.
Merck also got shadow writers to come up with safety studies for Vioxx, then got "reputable" doctors" to put their name them. The rest is history: some 55000 people reportedly died from Merck's supposedly safe Vioxx drug.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
1. Autism is a neurological condition known to be at least partly, if not entirely due to genes. No legitimate evidence has shown it's the result of "damage"
2. There are many kinds of neurological conditions. Autism specifically refers to learning & social impairments
3. Autism is not the same as mental retardation
4. I feel sorry for your friend's daughter for having to live in a world w/ ignorant fools who think they're better off dead
mjr256 2 years ago
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vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
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My friend Dr med G Buchwald used to say to parents when he was lecturing that although it's a tragedy for the parents if a child dies due to a vaccinaton, it can be overcome with time, and that in many cases the parents concerned can have another baby to make up for their loss.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Contd.
It's different with a vaccine injury, e.g in the case of a child who is severely autistic or retarded or suffering from daily convulsions. Many parents are living a nightmare they can't escape from (except for the husbands who often abandon ship because they con't cope with the stress), and one that will in many cases outlive them.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
My friend Dr med G Buchwald's only son was brain damaged by a smallpox vaccine at the age of 18 months. Severely retarded, he's now over 50, still can't talk, shave or brush his teeth. His father recently died at the age of 89 and his mother is over 80. Her son now lives in a home for the intellectually handicapped, Once she's gone, he'll become a ward of the state.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
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Such cases, and there are many, are not taken into account when doing risk-benefit analysis. This is understandable, because if they were, it would immediately show what a horrendous burden and blight vaccinations are on society, and this barbaric money-making racket would have to be stopped.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
The "mercury free" vaccines all still have mercury in them according to Boyd Haley University of KY. And according to the CDC, the following vaccines which are marketed as mercury free, actually do have mercury in them (less than 3mcgs per vaccine) DTaP (Tripedia) DTaP/HIB (TriHIBit) DT (Sanofi) Hep B (Engerix-B) Hep A/Hep B (Twinrix) Influenza (Fluarix, Flulaval, Fluvirin and Fluzone brands) Japanese Encephalitis (JE-Vax) Meningococcal (Menomune) DT (Decavac) DT (Massachusetts)
craigstell 2 years ago
Autism worse than heart disease & cancer? Did you seriously say that? You'd rather see kids die of cancer than live w/ autism? Really?
Actually "Doctor", there are LOTS of things different now than in the past. Why not blame the internet or cell phones while you're at it? How about women having kids well into their 40's? Or something in testosterone since boys are times more likely to have autism than girls? You know, something that actually is correlated w/ autism in peer-reviewed studies.
mjr256 2 years ago
Now mercury is supposedly greatly reduced, but aluminum is high. My son is vaccine injured and has high levels of lead, aluminum, mercury, and cadmium. He is going through chelation therapy and in 8 months has gone from severely mentally retarded and having low functioning autism, to having NO mental retardation but still has low functioning autism. Self injurious behaviors used to occur 50+ times a day, now 5 times a day tops.
CJEB4 2 years ago
Well you must not live in the U.S. because there's no mercury or aluminum in any of our childhood vaccines. Mental retardation and autism are two completely different things. Is your son mentally retarded or autistic?
mjr256 2 years ago
@mjr256
There is mercury in the flu shots for children and adults, and some other vaccines as well, in the USA.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
No, thimerosal is only found in the multidose flu vaccine, which is not given to children in the U.S.
mjr256 2 years ago
all vaccine is poison...
stop vaccines
autisme cancer etc
fabienKLE 2 years ago
I don't believe it was "retracted" but rather just removed from publication.
almirati 2 years ago
No, Wakefield's paper was retracted by the Lancet, who called his research "describing Wakefield's research as "fatally flawed."
And the GMC ruled that Wakefield "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly."
mjr256 2 years ago
@mjr256
But injecting babies and children with toxic vaccines that make them ill, or may cripple or kill them is ok? Drug company profits are obviously far more important.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Those "toxic" vaccines save millions of lives & are linked to far less negative side effects than seatbelts, airbags & condoms. They're also among the least profitable medical procedures there is & often manufacturers produce them at a loss. That's why so many vaccine manufactures went bankrupt in the 80s. And not a single one of the antivaxxer claims has ever held up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny and yet that hasn't stopped them from continuing to make the same long debunked claims.
mjr256 2 years ago
There was no autism before mercury was added to vaccines in 1931. I think we can conclude it's the mercury since vaccines without mercury never caused autism between 1798 and 1930.
foresam 2 years ago
So then why do people still develop autism 9 years after mercury was removed from the vaccines, foresam? Is this magic mercury?
mjr256 2 years ago
Unfortunately, and I know this for a fact (check CDC site for proof) there IS still mercury (thimerosol) in some of the vaccines. And it's not the only adjuvant that is causing problems. Aluminum in the flu shots for one. Alzheimers patients are shown with a build-up of AL in their brain. Yet we insist on giving them flu, H1N1 and pneumonia vaccines every year(!) that's 3 in every year as soon as they hit the danger zone for Alzheimers. Isn't that the definition of insanity?
almirati 2 years ago
1. Thimerosal is only in MULTIDOSE flu vaccines, which are not given to children. & to call it "mercury" is misleading. Thimerosal is ethylmercury-based & ethylmercury is not the same thing as elemental mercury
2. Thimerosal is an antiseptic, not an adjuvant. If you can't tell the difference, your argument loses all credibility
3. Aluminum is not in the flu vaccines & is not used as an adjuvant in the U.S.
4. Those vaccines are not linked to Alzheimers
Stop getting your info. from Joey Mercola
mjr256 2 years ago
I don't know who that is. And of course they're NOT linked to Alzheimers (yet). I don't understand the tone of voice what-so-ever. You've lost any hope of converting me to your way of thinking. I am not an idiot just because I don't understand all this nonsense 120% as your are obviously purporting to. And I wouldn't take YOUR word for anything you just said anyway. I read scientific journals from all over the world in two languages for the research I've been doing for 2.5 years.
almirati 2 years ago
Yes, reject facts because you don't like people's tone. That will show me. You stated that you knew something "for a fact" that is at best inaccurate & at worst completely wrong. & whether you know him or not, you're parroting the talking points of a notorious propagandist in the comments section of another propaganda video
I don't want to you "take my word for anything." Don't take ANYONE'S word for it. If you care about this issue, do proper research before making scientific claims.
mjr256 2 years ago
mjr256
I used to believe in vaccination too, for the best part of my life, until I came across evdence which clearly showed that vaccines have never protected anyone or saved anyone's life.
"Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity."
Dr Herbert Shelton
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
As far as I'm concerned: tomato/tomahto; mercury/thimerosol. It doesn't matter WHAT it's in there for; IT'S IN THERE. Nice way to mislead others while you deminish my intelligence/credibility to make sure nobody listens to my comments. Good luck with that.
almirati 2 years ago
"As far as I'm concerned: tomato/tomahto; mercury/thimerosol. It doesn't matter WHAT it's in there for; IT'S IN THERE."
No, as I pointed out, there entirely different things and they're NOT in there. What happened to all that 2.5 years of research you claim to have done?
And if you remove the periods, you can post URLs.
Here's the CDC's recommended childhood vaccine schedule:
cdc gov/vaccines/recs/schedules/downloads/child/2010/10_0-6yrs-schedule-pr pdf
None contain thimerosal or mercury.
mjr256 2 years ago
mjr256
Thiomersal (49% ethyl mercury) is in the flu shot for children and adults in the USA, as well as in some other vaccines.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
truth hurts
Garbonzo07 2 years ago
I do not get your logic. How can one go from no vaccine to no autism when it was originally 1-1000 cases of autism. If there were cases of autism prior to vaccines, how could no vaccinations equate to no autism. You may argue that it may decrease the number, but to say no autism is simply irresponsible and dangerous.
XioNilrem 2 years ago
good point but i think he misspoke. In other words the vast majority of cases are linked to autism.. Otherwise the few cases that had occurred in the past most likely were the result of exposure to some of the harmful ingredients in vaccince, yet coming from sources other than a vaccine injection.
Though i have to agree that with issues as serious and controversial as this, it can be a serious issue to misstate in such an obvious way. Though i still can infer the meaning as i said here.
ancientwisdom2012 2 years ago
He's saying that there is no autism among the 30000 - 35000 unvaccinated children under Homefirst's care, and that he believes that this absence of autism is linked to their being unvaccinated. Fair enough.
I know of a family in New Zealand with 6 children, 3 of them vaccinated, 3 of them unvaccinated. The 3 vaccinated children are autistic, the 3 unvaccinated children normal. Coincidence?
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
I see. Thanks for the correction. Still, as i Said before, Autism may be possible from being exposed to similar toxins (aluminum, mercury, etc) in other ways, which might be a logical explanation for autism occurring before vaccines were used. Yet, it would occur at a much lower rate than today with vaccines, due to how vaccines are administered and the scale of usage. drtenpenny. com
ancientwisdom2012 2 years ago
I get your point.
In 1977, ten babies died in a Toronto hospital when an antiseptic containing Thiomersal (49% ethyl mercury) was dabbed on their umbilical cords, yet Thiomersal was added to increasing numbers of childhood vaccines.
The only question is whether the people responsible for adding mercury to vaccines are only mad, or whether they are evil, or both.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
@vaccineshurtbabies
my feeling is that the individuals actually carrying this out are mostly brainwashed and/or mad, and the ones who plan this and set it up are actually "evil". A compartmentalized pyramid scheme, akin to the need-to-know-basis used by the military. People are given a story and belief system to help them justify their actions so they likely dont know they are harming others. The "planners" only need to really have the full story and understanding and in turn are "evil"
ancientwisdom2012 2 years ago
Wow, considering the odds of autism are 1 in 110 kids w/ boys being 4 times more susceptible than girls, your friend must have won the autism lottery there. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the genes. Nah, just the vaccines. And all those thousands of unvaccinated people w/ autism must be lying. Yeah, that's the ticket!
mjr256 2 years ago
If it's genes, obviously it's genes + something else. What is the CATALYST if the genes are the recessive bomb waiting to be sparked? And it can't just be genes at the recessive because otherwise other circumstances where families have NO autism in their family and suddenly end up with one doesn't fit into that theory. There are multiple types of autism is the problem. Just like with many disorders of the blood or body chemicals.
almirati 2 years ago
Nobody denies that environmental components may play a role in autism, though I don't think they are actually necessary. And if they do exist, those environmental components almost certainly occur in the prenatal stage.
But one thing that medical experts all agree on is that the overwhelming evidence shows it's got nothing to do w/ vaccines. And there are dozens of peer-reviewed studies published in reputable journals to back that up.
mjr256 2 years ago
mjr256
So, all medical experts agree? Indeed - after they all met at a secret conference at Simpsonwood where they decided to deny the link and to admit nothing! They know full well that vaccines cause autism, but to admit it would cause a flood of compensation claims and prosecutions. So, what must not be cannot be: vaccines don't cause autism even though they do!
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Contd.
Google and read "Deadly Immunity" by US Snr. Attorney Robert F Kennedy Jnr
and
"The Truth about the Vaccine Cover-Up" by US neurosurgeon Dr Russell Blaylock MD.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
You can find fringe doctors who deny smoking causes cancer. What matters is the peer-reviewed evidence & consensus of expert medical opinions in the related specialty
But funny how doctors are not to be trusted except those who support your ideology. Then we should credulously take their word as gospel. This is confirmation bias. Real science demands ideas be properly vetted to see if they have merit. You reject the process & any conclusion you don't like.
mjr256 2 years ago
I used to believe in vaccination for most of my life - until I came across infectious diseases graphs in the book "Animal Research Takes Lives" by Bette Overell. You can find them by googling the title, then going to the chapter on vaccination.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
Contd.
The graphs clearly show that vaccines have never prevented any diseases. So, for me it's just a case of knowing what I know. I don't really care what's true for you or anyone else. You get all the vaccines you want - I won't have any more vaccines - ever.
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
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Robert Kennedy's fluff piece was debunked ages ago:
ht tp skeptico blogs com/skeptico/2005/06/lies_damn_lies_html
ht tp skeptico blogs com/skeptico/2005/06/robert_f_kenned ht ml
sciencebasedmedicine org/?p=393
ht tp autismdiva blogspot com/2005/07/russkies-dont-trust-em ht ml
lookingupautism org/Articles/Dobro html
Leave the science to scientists not the politicians & Rolling Stone Magazine.
You don't understand the science so all you can do is parrot the unsupported claims of lunatics.
mjr256 2 years ago
Who says there was autism before vaccinations?
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago
@vaccineshurtbabies Umm, any person who has taken 5 minutes out of their day to do some research. The numbers are there, there were cases of autism prior to them, and that is not even the debate. The question is whether or not there is some correlation between the two.
So far, the main study that was referenced and used in support of the claim has been retracted, it is looking less and less likely.
XioNilrem 2 years ago
why dont you look up "vaccines the risks, the benefits, the choices" by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. Please actually WATCH the film before commenting, or replying... This film does exhaustive research on the topic of vaccines. Also, drtenpenny. com has additional info that is well researched and sourced.
ancientwisdom2012 2 years ago
Why don't you research from real doctors instead of vitamin saleswomen?
dangeroustalk net/a-team/Vaccines
mjr256 2 years ago
Ok, so when exactly (what year?) was autism first observed and reported?
vaccineshurtbabies 2 years ago