Although this scene is historically incorrect. The English have always been known as notorious assholes since the beginning of time. They have oppressed the world many times. Let us not forget South Africa, India, Ireland, Scotland, and of course the United States Colonies. It is not unrealistic that the English army may have committed some type of war crime in the American Revolution.
the vast majorty of attrocitys were commited by the bush whacker colonials against neighbors= loyalists against rebels and not by militia or either armys
but what makes this offensive is that the church burning is an incident done by the nazis in WWII and no such event ever occured during the revolution
as far as saying tht the english have been known as notorious assholes- i just watched a video of us marines pissing on dead bodies
I still stand by my statement. I never said that this scene of the movie was historically correct. My point that I am making is that British soldiers did in fact commit crimes against the American Colonies, such as the Boston Massacre for example. As for your comment about the video of the US Marines that you watched, I do not approve of their behavior either. I believe that their poor desicions reflect badly on American servicemen.
@ENDRENOABORTION When I say the "English" have been known as "notorious assholes" throughout history, I am speaking about the English monarchy. Which who in fact were world oppressors, I never said that the United States had a clean slate. Unlike you I am willing to admit my countries mistakes, where you would rather deny the fact that the English government has ever commited a war crime.
This scene never happened at all. This was based from an event which the GERMANS committed on a French church. If anyone studied history, they would know this was faked to either- make it more dramatic, or stir hatred towards Britain. Probably the second.
Although there were atrocities on both sides - particularly by American militia troops on both sides (irregulars are almost always the worst - particularly in civil wars, which the AWI was) - the nearest parallel to the scene here which I have found was the Gnadenhutten massacre - carried out by patriot militia on Christian Native Americans... As to some of the other comments, all I would say is read your history folks - the original accounts; not the myths...
Ridiculous, none of this happened. The redcoats did not act like the Nazi SS......in those days these "Americans" were English colonists. Burning a church full of them would be like killing your own women and children......
Would Francis Marion, the Swamp Fox', or Colonel Tarleton burn down a Church full of people? Yes. They both were brutal men who used fear to do what ever it took to win the War.
@Rtmax45 false. Francis Marion would not. Tarleton was very brutal towards soldiers but never was much into killing civilians. Marion was pretty honourable
"Ok, before we trash the English and make heroes out of Americans, read at Wikipedia the South Carolina Swamp Fox. This movie is loosely, very loosely based on Francis Marion and Colonel Tarleton. They were both brutal men. Just read about them.
Lol. I'm American. Even I find the way they depicted the English as blood thirsty and murderous, completely asinine. I 'm sure Tavingtons existed on both sides. But in general, the English were very respectful and honorable adversaries. I understand it's a movie, but, come on.
In fact this video is kind to the British. Many were whipped, tortured, and burned at the stake the morning, and afternoon before what is shown by Gibson... thanks Mel, is shown.
Everybody relax about the so-called "inaccuracy". It is JUST A MOVIE. Maybe this isn't exactly correctly based on an actual Revolutionary War event, but they are just trying to show you how brutal the British truly were. And I'm not saying that the Americans weren't brutal either, but this is just an adaptation of the British brutality. So everyone just relax.
Of all the "warnings" that were out there about this movie, from the decapitation, to the murder of a young boy.....absolutely NOTHING prepared us for the church-burning scene. It was absolutely horrific. While I do realize this was fictional, horrible stuff like this has happened to innocent civilians throughout history in times of war (yes, Americans have done their share as well).
We DO know the British DID NOT burn down a church full of people during the Revolutionary War but we DO know that a group of Nazi Waffen SS men DID burn down a church full of people in France in 1944. That's where the inspiration for this scene comes from. It's Oradour-sur-Glane 1944 transported to the American Colonies of the 1770s. To insinsuate that the British during the Revolutionary War were akin to Nazis of WW2 is damn insulting and inaccurate.
Not only is this scene a stupid adaption of the Oradour murders, it also get the people to believe that the Loyalists are the killers in AWI. In fact 3/4 of butchered civilists in this war had been Loyalists, living in rural areas undefendable against the Rebels actions. No wonder that few dared to rally behind Cornwallis in the South. Patriots view was simple: We are right, god is with us, tar, feathers and rope for the friends of the king. We are only 1/3 or less of the colonists? Who cares.
@MegaWolfeater Agreed, its as if they just too lazy to try and save themselves, haha. I mean, how hard would it be to break down a door from the inside when you have at least 15 men in there?
To me, this is one of the saddest scenes in the movie, cause they were burning innocent villagers alive. I can't imagine the kind of hell that would feel like; old folks, women, and children. Also felt bad cause Heath Ledger's character got married to Ann and now she's gone. What kind of hell would that be to come home and see burned remains of your family. The Dragoons should have let them out after Tavington left. The people could have found a way out by breaking the back windows in.
this is such a sad movie, but it's very powerful. May this movie be an inspiration to all of us. It shouldn't be an inspiration to kill others (Obviously!!) but to stand up for what you believe in :)
The first thing the British did in Virginia was burn chuches because the preachers were the most patriotic Americans around. The Americans for the most part were God-fearing people who hated the atheistic, heathinistic ways of the British.
@fmjr10 well if you are an american you should be thrown out of the country for saying that if you are english you are just evil like the rest of england and the US should nuke you
Nothing like this happened in the War... the worst documented event that happened was in Boston in 1770, the Boston "Massacre" but no one really knows what went on, it was probably a mistake but it could have been a massacre
@ks7800 You do realise this never happened, the British didn't slaughter civilians in the American war of independence, this is a film. This scene is taken from a massacre in France in 1944 when the Nazis slaughtered 650 people in Oradour-sur-Glane by burning down the church.
@uafchris I would argue that. England hung revolutionaries. Maybe this is not based on a particular event, but nonetheless, punishment towards colonialists who conspired against the Crown was brutal.
@uafchris What are you talking about "The British didn't slaughter civilians". Of course they did! Ever heard of a little thing called the Boston Massacre? Or how many towns and cities they burned during their campaigns through America? You need to do a little research on the Revolutionary War instead of acting like you know so much about it.
@DethPenguin Just so you know, because it seems like you don't quite realize, the Boston Massacre was just ONE TIME in the Revolutionary War that I mentioned. That wasn't the only time that they killed people. You seem to forget that the war lasted for years. Years in which they killed hundreds of civilians. Please talk to somebody with any historic knowledge because you are thoroughly lacking you own.
@uafchris Have you heard of the Boston massacre? I agree with everything you said except "British didn't slaughter civilians", civilians are always killed in war either by accident or on purpose. There is no need to hide this fact of war.
@downloadgoblin no he is just an ignorant brit. even though his country murdered 13 people on 30 january 1972., and his country only accepted guilt last summer, but guarnteee this arse still thinks its ok to shoot innocent people in the back. as long as they are catholic.
@SA1933 No, but the IRA clearly though it was fine to butcher 2,000 civilians (including hundreds of Women and Children) just because they were British or Protestant.
@uafchris you say it never happened but did you live during the revolutionary war? no? then how do you know it didn't happen? history has times where the truth is to horrifying times never revealed it
Can you say the same for the War of 1812 when the British landed in Maryland? haha ;) Last I saw, there were records of rape, burning of villages, etc. Hell I even have the burnt Capitol as proof!
@Iceman5164 Yes they burnt the Capitol and the Whitehouse, but there wasn't anyone inside at the time. Also that was revenge for American atrocities in Canada.
I know, I know, I believe there were some People inside the White House but Madison wasn't there, nobody was killed but that would still be like the United States burning down Parliament
@uafchris Than I guess you can describe to us how it really was. I'll be waiting for your account of how "non brutal" that war was. Oh wait I got it, That was the war where people were killed humanly & nobody was murdered. Do you think the British army crossed the ocean to have a picnic?
@rudypen1216 No, there is no record of this happening, it would have been a foolish thing to do as it would have turned all the Americans against the British.
every night i have a reoccuring dream of this happening to me either a fire or with poison gas. I am in there waiting to die. it is horrible...but i cant ever stop watching this movie! it is worth dying a million times to see heath ledgers face :)
Am i the only one who shed a tear at this scene. This scene made me furious at hollywood. They always have to epicise it for a more dramatic feel. The Britidh back then Probably didn't even want to torch the villages. They thought of us Americans as bretheren. But i still love this movie, tons!
Can you honestly imagine Britain, A christian monarchy, empire and country, go around burning houses of God? Let alone with innocents in it?
Just wouldn't happen. You can understand why Brits hate this movie just like how Americans would hate a movie about them being depicted as Nazis. In terms of action, this movie is cool and all but I get sickened thinking this movie gets shown in Schools if anything, I hope not for teaching History purposes, because if so, wow. : /
You're absolutely right, however that's respectfully a whole different scenario.
The Irish conquest was a deeply religious oriented war against Catholics and Protestants in a still very brutal age. While this scene has no religious purpose to burn the church with civilians in it. No resistance made or anything, "no honour in this.".
I think by the time of the American Revolution, Britain's army had atleast civilized away from medieval thirst-for-blood brutality.
@IAMLelouchVBritannia medieval? drogheda happened only 130 years before the American revolution. britain always had a tactic of brutality, for example the black and tans in the 1920s. during the napoleonic wars any French garrison that didn't surrender was put to death if taken, although it was supposedly frowned upon by army chiefs. my point is i don't know how you can't believe a british army is unable or unwilling to preform these atrocities when history is full of examples
@pkiernan86 Yes but violence of medieval nature had changed considerably since the American revolution, It's just that the brutality of what you'd probably see as medieval still happened during 1649, Cromwell still put the heads of royalists on a pike after the battle. The siege was somewhat still considered tame compared to that periods standards. Believe me though mate, I know the British army has done plenty of bad things, but even I see this as just an awfully wrong fabrication of history.
@IAMLelouchVBritannia hey dude . tavington represents a colonel that acts on his own way to obtain what he wants, just like any man would do so despise his beliefs in real life. it's true, they christians and such but im christian too but if i see a man robbing my home i'm not gona wait for God to smite him light the bible says: mine is the revenge and i will pay for it. of course not, i would beat the crap out of him :)
@11strelokfan1000 for who? england? they hated this film and nearly branded jason isaacs a traitor 4 doin this film, besides the americans have nothin agaisnt the british and @IHoodlum i hope ur just quotin the movie...
The scene is copied from the movie Come And See about German atrocities on the Eastern Front in WW2. Nothing like this happened during the American War Of Independence although there were atrocities and brutality on both sides.
1:52 - poor captain wilkins... what has he become?
The british are portrayed as proper evil in this film, un-realistic as it is, you cant help but enjoy there scenes (being British myself) you have to take the film for what it is, regardless of its accuracy
This scene is absolutely over-the-top; if I didn't know Hollywood better, I would be surprised that they ever thought to insert such hogwash in the movie. The eighteenth century British did not fight with such virulent scorched earth methods. The church-burning scene is apparently based on an actual war crime--committed by the Nazis during World War II. I guess the writers just thought it would be an easy leap to appropriate the characteristics of one U.S. enemy and ascribe them to the British.
@toasterbot That's a load of bull, it's how hollywood portrays history. I'm sick of this fucking "everyone hate Americans" wherever I go on the internet.
This is an honest and highly realistic portrayal of British foreign policy. Ask the Buddhist Monks in China who ALSO had their Temples burnt to the ground by the brits and had brothels built over them as an insult to Chinese Culture.
This is a dishonest and highly unrealistic portrayal of British foreign policy. Ironically, incinerating civilians is an american and german pastime, rather than a British one.
NB Shouldn't you be out lynching some "aboes", or whatever you convicts do?
I cited an example of what the Poms did to the Chinese because I am Chinese myself; I just happen to LIVE in Australia. But lo and behold thanks to British cutlure it still okay to openly call Chinese delightfully hateful nicknames like "Gook" "Nip" "Chink" and "Ching Chong."
You're right about dumb people who are PROUD of their convict heritages bully, lynch and kill Aboriginals and Chinese. They can burn for all I care.
Yeah this happened in 1940 when the Nazi's burn't some French in chruches. This never happened during this period. Yet again this is Hollywood lying to its hearts content.
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karezza6 1 week ago
I feel bad for the captain u could tell he didn't want to do it. If I was him I would throw the torch at the redcoats and ride away
Volsfan161618 1 week ago
Although this scene is historically incorrect. The English have always been known as notorious assholes since the beginning of time. They have oppressed the world many times. Let us not forget South Africa, India, Ireland, Scotland, and of course the United States Colonies. It is not unrealistic that the English army may have committed some type of war crime in the American Revolution.
M70Winchester 3 weeks ago
@M70Winchester
the vast majorty of attrocitys were commited by the bush whacker colonials against neighbors= loyalists against rebels and not by militia or either armys
but what makes this offensive is that the church burning is an incident done by the nazis in WWII and no such event ever occured during the revolution
as far as saying tht the english have been known as notorious assholes- i just watched a video of us marines pissing on dead bodies
ENDRENOABORTION 2 days ago
I still stand by my statement. I never said that this scene of the movie was historically correct. My point that I am making is that British soldiers did in fact commit crimes against the American Colonies, such as the Boston Massacre for example. As for your comment about the video of the US Marines that you watched, I do not approve of their behavior either. I believe that their poor desicions reflect badly on American servicemen.
M70Winchester 20 hours ago
@ENDRENOABORTION When I say the "English" have been known as "notorious assholes" throughout history, I am speaking about the English monarchy. Which who in fact were world oppressors, I never said that the United States had a clean slate. Unlike you I am willing to admit my countries mistakes, where you would rather deny the fact that the English government has ever commited a war crime.
M70Winchester 20 hours ago
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M70Winchester 3 weeks ago
LISTEN!
This scene never happened at all. This was based from an event which the GERMANS committed on a French church. If anyone studied history, they would know this was faked to either- make it more dramatic, or stir hatred towards Britain. Probably the second.
NovaFur 3 weeks ago
Although there were atrocities on both sides - particularly by American militia troops on both sides (irregulars are almost always the worst - particularly in civil wars, which the AWI was) - the nearest parallel to the scene here which I have found was the Gnadenhutten massacre - carried out by patriot militia on Christian Native Americans... As to some of the other comments, all I would say is read your history folks - the original accounts; not the myths...
MrIDeeDee 3 weeks ago
Ridiculous, none of this happened. The redcoats did not act like the Nazi SS......in those days these "Americans" were English colonists. Burning a church full of them would be like killing your own women and children......
TalonMercenary 1 month ago
Justice was served.
minasmorgul34 1 month ago 4
Robert Rodat wrote this film and Saving Private Ryan. He is obviously anti-British. I hope the twisted bastard dies from cancer.
karezza6 1 month ago
The director of this film Roland Emmerich is a German.
karezza6 1 month ago
@karezza6 If not nazi...
gelp12 1 month ago
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englishmen burn englishmen.
Oesterreich1156 1 month ago
this is reality! the loyalist pigs tried to burn st. matts many times during the troubles and current day!
SA1933 2 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
the british didnt slaughter civilians in the war of independance
every heard of the boston massacre?
hahahahahahahahahaha
GunnyRebel 2 months ago
Would Francis Marion, the Swamp Fox', or Colonel Tarleton burn down a Church full of people? Yes. They both were brutal men who used fear to do what ever it took to win the War.
Rtmax45 2 months ago
@Rtmax45 false. Francis Marion would not. Tarleton was very brutal towards soldiers but never was much into killing civilians. Marion was pretty honourable
comradeshow 2 months ago
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"Ok, before we trash the English and make heroes out of Americans, read at Wikipedia the South Carolina Swamp Fox. This movie is loosely, very loosely based on Francis Marion and Colonel Tarleton. They were both brutal men. Just read about them.
Rtmax45 2 months ago
Funny how the Americans never made a film about the Vietnam "Pinkville Massacre".
MarkramUK 2 months ago
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Rtmax45 2 months ago
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Rtmax45 2 months ago
This means war!!!!!!!
CasimusxPrime 3 months ago
@CasimusxPrime You're 235 years too late.
cosmictimes 3 months ago
@cosmictimes Then in that case, Revolutionary War II.
CasimusxPrime 3 months ago
@cosmictimes Sounds like a good computer game
cosmictimes 3 months ago
my god..i cant even describe how i feel when i watch this
theAlbaniankidd 3 months ago
cry out america
halo4019 3 months ago
What devilish addictive blue eyes!
kurthalover 4 months ago
What happens to the American red coat in the end? i don't remember, dose he get his?
tribetng 4 months ago
Lol. I'm American. Even I find the way they depicted the English as blood thirsty and murderous, completely asinine. I 'm sure Tavingtons existed on both sides. But in general, the English were very respectful and honorable adversaries. I understand it's a movie, but, come on.
bannedfromutube1 4 months ago 19
@bannedfromutube1
Rodat, Emmerich and Gibson are the trinity of evil.
karezza6 1 month ago
@bannedfromutube1 Well said, if only more people thought with as much broadmindedness as you.
dezboss 1 month ago
@bannedfromutube1
In fact this video is kind to the British. Many were whipped, tortured, and burned at the stake the morning, and afternoon before what is shown by Gibson... thanks Mel, is shown.
Children. Jews, Polish, Irish, German Americans.
irishman101202 4 weeks ago
@bannedfromutube1 British.
bullettoothburrows 2 weeks ago
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karezza6 1 week ago
I hate Tavington with a burning passion but yet I LOVE THE MAN!!!
kurthalover 5 months ago
I guess it's true. History is written by the victors. But then why didn't France write about this war?
NathanH97 5 months ago
I wonder if they'll ever make a film about American massacres in Vietnam and Iraq one day and stop making up bullshit about the Brits!!
allgoonersaregay 5 months ago 3
@allgoonersaregay And stop making British people the bad guys or the idiotic retards in your films as well.
berserker276 5 months ago
this is an anoying defamation of great britain. so wrong. this should be banned
emiblindside 5 months ago
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ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 6 months ago
Everybody relax about the so-called "inaccuracy". It is JUST A MOVIE. Maybe this isn't exactly correctly based on an actual Revolutionary War event, but they are just trying to show you how brutal the British truly were. And I'm not saying that the Americans weren't brutal either, but this is just an adaptation of the British brutality. So everyone just relax.
stupefywithredvines 6 months ago
This scene is an horrific inaccuracy
Purkaeus 7 months ago
Of all the "warnings" that were out there about this movie, from the decapitation, to the murder of a young boy.....absolutely NOTHING prepared us for the church-burning scene. It was absolutely horrific. While I do realize this was fictional, horrible stuff like this has happened to innocent civilians throughout history in times of war (yes, Americans have done their share as well).
GeorgiaKev 7 months ago
When I first saw this part where he said, "Give me the torch," I was hoping that when he took the torch he would stick it in barrel full of water!
fishingftw09 7 months ago
@fishingftw09 Despite his feelings, he shows his discipline.
biggrigga 7 months ago
@biggrigga Yeah, he does. I don't think I could do it. They would probably kill me for insubordination, and get someoneelse to do it!
fishingftw09 7 months ago
80,000 people forced out of home by the 'patriots'
dmax631 8 months ago
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ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 8 months ago
We DO know the British DID NOT burn down a church full of people during the Revolutionary War but we DO know that a group of Nazi Waffen SS men DID burn down a church full of people in France in 1944. That's where the inspiration for this scene comes from. It's Oradour-sur-Glane 1944 transported to the American Colonies of the 1770s. To insinsuate that the British during the Revolutionary War were akin to Nazis of WW2 is damn insulting and inaccurate.
BoyofmanyNames 8 months ago 2
This will be forgotten...Bordon!
DanDamnRoad 8 months ago
wow british are evil burning chuch, british terrorists
doubleo077 8 months ago
Not only is this scene a stupid adaption of the Oradour murders, it also get the people to believe that the Loyalists are the killers in AWI. In fact 3/4 of butchered civilists in this war had been Loyalists, living in rural areas undefendable against the Rebels actions. No wonder that few dared to rally behind Cornwallis in the South. Patriots view was simple: We are right, god is with us, tar, feathers and rope for the friends of the king. We are only 1/3 or less of the colonists? Who cares.
crematio 8 months ago 5
@crematio it was half and half
comradeshow 2 months ago
@MegaWolfeater Agreed, its as if they just too lazy to try and save themselves, haha. I mean, how hard would it be to break down a door from the inside when you have at least 15 men in there?
metathus 9 months ago
Down with the colonials!!!! Up with the British!!!.....oh and read some history books yankee fools
Durgesuth 9 months ago
To me, this is one of the saddest scenes in the movie, cause they were burning innocent villagers alive. I can't imagine the kind of hell that would feel like; old folks, women, and children. Also felt bad cause Heath Ledger's character got married to Ann and now she's gone. What kind of hell would that be to come home and see burned remains of your family. The Dragoons should have let them out after Tavington left. The people could have found a way out by breaking the back windows in.
Bull1908 10 months ago
this is such a sad movie, but it's very powerful. May this movie be an inspiration to all of us. It shouldn't be an inspiration to kill others (Obviously!!) but to stand up for what you believe in :)
LoveForWolf68 10 months ago
The first thing the British did in Virginia was burn chuches because the preachers were the most patriotic Americans around. The Americans for the most part were God-fearing people who hated the atheistic, heathinistic ways of the British.
Sistarovat 10 months ago
@Sistarovat Yes, but they didnt burn them down with people inside them
uafchris 9 months ago
LOL LONG LIVE ENGLAND
freereg29 10 months ago
this why americans should always hate england
ks7800 10 months ago
@ks7800 Burning the chruch was a good idea. The people, not so much.
fmjr10 10 months ago
@fmjr10 well if you are an american you should be thrown out of the country for saying that if you are english you are just evil like the rest of england and the US should nuke you
ks7800 10 months ago
@ks7800
Nothing like this happened in the War... the worst documented event that happened was in Boston in 1770, the Boston "Massacre" but no one really knows what went on, it was probably a mistake but it could have been a massacre
Iceman5164 1 month ago
@ks7800 You do realise this never happened, the British didn't slaughter civilians in the American war of independence, this is a film. This scene is taken from a massacre in France in 1944 when the Nazis slaughtered 650 people in Oradour-sur-Glane by burning down the church.
uafchris 9 months ago 44
@uafchris england and all of the united kingdom is evil and all americans should hate you
ks7800 9 months ago
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uafchris 9 months ago
@uafchris watch this video and there is your answer
ks7800 9 months ago
@uafchris I would argue that. England hung revolutionaries. Maybe this is not based on a particular event, but nonetheless, punishment towards colonialists who conspired against the Crown was brutal.
HaggenPagan26 8 months ago
@uafchris What are you talking about "The British didn't slaughter civilians". Of course they did! Ever heard of a little thing called the Boston Massacre? Or how many towns and cities they burned during their campaigns through America? You need to do a little research on the Revolutionary War instead of acting like you know so much about it.
stupefywithredvines 6 months ago
@stupefywithredvines
The 'massacre' was 5 people killed out of a crowd of 300-400, all of whom were rioting and attacked a group of guards first.
DethPenguin 6 months ago
@DethPenguin Oh, so you were there
assassin1911kya 6 months ago
@assassin1911kya
Ah right. All History is invalid because I wasn't there personally, my bad.
DethPenguin 6 months ago
@DethPenguin Thank you, thats all i wanted:)
assassin1911kya 6 months ago
@DethPenguin Just so you know, because it seems like you don't quite realize, the Boston Massacre was just ONE TIME in the Revolutionary War that I mentioned. That wasn't the only time that they killed people. You seem to forget that the war lasted for years. Years in which they killed hundreds of civilians. Please talk to somebody with any historic knowledge because you are thoroughly lacking you own.
stupefywithredvines 6 months ago
@uafchris Have you heard of the Boston massacre? I agree with everything you said except "British didn't slaughter civilians", civilians are always killed in war either by accident or on purpose. There is no need to hide this fact of war.
downloadgoblin 4 months ago
@downloadgoblin no he is just an ignorant brit. even though his country murdered 13 people on 30 january 1972., and his country only accepted guilt last summer, but guarnteee this arse still thinks its ok to shoot innocent people in the back. as long as they are catholic.
SA1933 4 months ago
@SA1933 No, but the IRA clearly though it was fine to butcher 2,000 civilians (including hundreds of Women and Children) just because they were British or Protestant.
uafchris 2 months ago
@downloadgoblin Remember how loyalsist homes were often burned because of their opinion?Kind of even things out.
Varyalover 4 months ago
@uafchris you say it never happened but did you live during the revolutionary war? no? then how do you know it didn't happen? history has times where the truth is to horrifying times never revealed it
Pyro6Burning6Gundam6 2 months ago
@uafchris
Can you say the same for the War of 1812 when the British landed in Maryland? haha ;) Last I saw, there were records of rape, burning of villages, etc. Hell I even have the burnt Capitol as proof!
Iceman5164 1 month ago
@Iceman5164 Yes they burnt the Capitol and the Whitehouse, but there wasn't anyone inside at the time. Also that was revenge for American atrocities in Canada.
uafchris 1 month ago
@uafchris
I know, I know, I believe there were some People inside the White House but Madison wasn't there, nobody was killed but that would still be like the United States burning down Parliament
Iceman5164 1 month ago
@uafchris Than I guess you can describe to us how it really was. I'll be waiting for your account of how "non brutal" that war was. Oh wait I got it, That was the war where people were killed humanly & nobody was murdered. Do you think the British army crossed the ocean to have a picnic?
chill14later 1 month ago
Holy shit, it's Luscious Malfoy telling Jayne Cobb to burn down the church!
ChriosM 10 months ago
I'm looking forward to Mel Gibson's movie depicting the genocide of the native Americans.Will it ever get made? Ha, will it Hell.
richwicz 11 months ago
@richwicz
It will, only it'll show fire-breathing fat dragons for English, killing off native americans.
I so hope Mel Gibson dies. He hates English. Well too bad for him, every scot does not hate the English like he does enough to make gay movies.
WolfytheWolf5667 11 months ago
burn baby burn
CcCbosnaCcC 11 months ago
Did this part happen in real life?
rudypen1216 11 months ago
@rudypen1216 No, there is no record of this happening, it would have been a foolish thing to do as it would have turned all the Americans against the British.
fourganger88 11 months ago
-The British invented concentration camps and did some horrible things in it's colonies
-The Americans wiped out the indians
-The Germans exterminated many minorities and occupied foreign lands
-the Belgians butchered and enslaved half of the Congo
-The Turks Slaughtered a million people in Armenia
-The Japanese played russion roulette with POWS and fed them to rats
Face it, EVERY nation commited attrocities,it's foolish to discuss who was the worst
obiwanfx 11 months ago
"The town?....ha, burn the church"........hahaha, love how he laughs....classic.
lars3155 11 months ago
every night i have a reoccuring dream of this happening to me either a fire or with poison gas. I am in there waiting to die. it is horrible...but i cant ever stop watching this movie! it is worth dying a million times to see heath ledgers face :)
teamjalicecullen 1 year ago
Am i the only one who shed a tear at this scene. This scene made me furious at hollywood. They always have to epicise it for a more dramatic feel. The Britidh back then Probably didn't even want to torch the villages. They thought of us Americans as bretheren. But i still love this movie, tons!
ProudFinn1 1 year ago
So sad.. Lavington gave the captian orders to burn the church, but i saw he hesitated. The captain seems a better man.
Gigglez38 1 year ago
I agree, why Hollywood?
Can you honestly imagine Britain, A christian monarchy, empire and country, go around burning houses of God? Let alone with innocents in it?
Just wouldn't happen. You can understand why Brits hate this movie just like how Americans would hate a movie about them being depicted as Nazis. In terms of action, this movie is cool and all but I get sickened thinking this movie gets shown in Schools if anything, I hope not for teaching History purposes, because if so, wow. : /
IAMLelouchVBritannia 1 year ago 8
@IAMLelouchVBritannia haha cromwell did it in Ireland...burnt a church to the ground with civilians inside!
pkiernan86 1 year ago
@pkiernan86
You're absolutely right, however that's respectfully a whole different scenario.
The Irish conquest was a deeply religious oriented war against Catholics and Protestants in a still very brutal age. While this scene has no religious purpose to burn the church with civilians in it. No resistance made or anything, "no honour in this.".
I think by the time of the American Revolution, Britain's army had atleast civilized away from medieval thirst-for-blood brutality.
IAMLelouchVBritannia 1 year ago
@IAMLelouchVBritannia medieval? drogheda happened only 130 years before the American revolution. britain always had a tactic of brutality, for example the black and tans in the 1920s. during the napoleonic wars any French garrison that didn't surrender was put to death if taken, although it was supposedly frowned upon by army chiefs. my point is i don't know how you can't believe a british army is unable or unwilling to preform these atrocities when history is full of examples
pkiernan86 1 year ago
@pkiernan86 Yes but violence of medieval nature had changed considerably since the American revolution, It's just that the brutality of what you'd probably see as medieval still happened during 1649, Cromwell still put the heads of royalists on a pike after the battle. The siege was somewhat still considered tame compared to that periods standards. Believe me though mate, I know the British army has done plenty of bad things, but even I see this as just an awfully wrong fabrication of history.
IAMLelouchVBritannia 1 year ago
@IAMLelouchVBritannia hey dude . tavington represents a colonel that acts on his own way to obtain what he wants, just like any man would do so despise his beliefs in real life. it's true, they christians and such but im christian too but if i see a man robbing my home i'm not gona wait for God to smite him light the bible says: mine is the revenge and i will pay for it. of course not, i would beat the crap out of him :)
HeroCaesar 10 months ago
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I almostr threw up when watching this in class. It freaked me out that bad.
SerenaMacedo 1 year ago
@11strelokfan1000 for who? england? they hated this film and nearly branded jason isaacs a traitor 4 doin this film, besides the americans have nothin agaisnt the british and @IHoodlum i hope ur just quotin the movie...
Poodendog 1 year ago
@Poodendog I'm english and I loved the movie. I think he's just quoting the movie.
leramay 1 year ago
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I urge you to read this. I couldn't say it better myself. This Racist propaganda should be banned.
TheJim9191 1 year ago
That's one flammable church.
ReX342 1 year ago 3
What propaganda...
11strelokfan1000 1 year ago 3
@BEASTIE4RMDAB
That's cool. I forgive you.
Animal Mother forgives you too.
I have decided to spare you and your family.
LordSkullCrusher 1 year ago
@BEASTIE4RMDAB
No you idiot.
That's Animal Mother from Full Metal Jacket.
Adam Baldwin.
LordSkullCrusher 1 year ago
This is what happens when you put an asshole in charge of good men.
zelda1fiction1child 1 year ago
A wonderfully presented scene. If only it were historically accurate. Why does Hollywood always do this? :(
11strelokfan 1 year ago
@11strelokfan
The scene is copied from the movie Come And See about German atrocities on the Eastern Front in WW2. Nothing like this happened during the American War Of Independence although there were atrocities and brutality on both sides.
LordSkullCrusher 1 year ago
1:52 - poor captain wilkins... what has he become?
The british are portrayed as proper evil in this film, un-realistic as it is, you cant help but enjoy there scenes (being British myself) you have to take the film for what it is, regardless of its accuracy
fullonforce 1 year ago 3
shut it people!!!
The reason of this scene was to made the scene sad and dramatic!!! I dunno if it happened but leave it!!!
morenoingrato 1 year ago
Trust hollywood to come up with biased ideas like this. Well filmed scene otherwise, but so wrong.
crysiseternity 1 year ago
He may be a homicidal maniac...but Tavington is YUMMMMMY
IdiotWithMovieMaker 1 year ago 3
@IdiotWithMovieMaker I totally agree..I think it's one of the best character played by Jason Isaacs..probably the best!
DidiHcn 1 year ago
would be even better if it was a mosque.
azgilbertboi 1 year ago
This scene is absolutely over-the-top; if I didn't know Hollywood better, I would be surprised that they ever thought to insert such hogwash in the movie. The eighteenth century British did not fight with such virulent scorched earth methods. The church-burning scene is apparently based on an actual war crime--committed by the Nazis during World War II. I guess the writers just thought it would be an easy leap to appropriate the characteristics of one U.S. enemy and ascribe them to the British.
namenderkrieg 1 year ago
I hate how the normal redcoats are merciful, yet that damn colonal...
Varyalover 1 year ago
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That is not even fact!!
crysiseternity 1 year ago
The funniest thing is that the guy that Mel Gibson's character is based on was a serial rapist.
WhimsicalQuandary 1 year ago
@WhimsicalQuandary That's the perfect role for crazy ass Gibson
supdawg9999999 1 year ago
How america portrays history.
toasterbot 1 year ago 16
@toasterbot No, how stupid movies portray history. Let's not be brainless nationalists here.
SventheCrusader 5 months ago
@toasterbot That's a load of bull, it's how hollywood portrays history. I'm sick of this fucking "everyone hate Americans" wherever I go on the internet.
EdikShepherd 5 months ago
@toasterbot Actually, the director grew up in Germany.
pengu82 4 months ago
This is what rebels deserve. Owned, bitches.
supdawg9999999 1 year ago
This is an honest and highly realistic portrayal of British foreign policy. Ask the Buddhist Monks in China who ALSO had their Temples burnt to the ground by the brits and had brothels built over them as an insult to Chinese Culture.
RoninAquila 1 year ago
@RoninAquila
This is a dishonest and highly unrealistic portrayal of British foreign policy. Ironically, incinerating civilians is an american and german pastime, rather than a British one.
NB Shouldn't you be out lynching some "aboes", or whatever you convicts do?
chunkyjake6644 1 year ago
@chunkyjake6644
I cited an example of what the Poms did to the Chinese because I am Chinese myself; I just happen to LIVE in Australia. But lo and behold thanks to British cutlure it still okay to openly call Chinese delightfully hateful nicknames like "Gook" "Nip" "Chink" and "Ching Chong."
You're right about dumb people who are PROUD of their convict heritages bully, lynch and kill Aboriginals and Chinese. They can burn for all I care.
RoninAquila 1 year ago
@RoninAquila crawl out of your fucking arse and stop moping around feeling sorry for yourself.
bantermelon 1 year ago
@RoninAquila
um, if you weren't such an idiot, you'd find that Hollywood are being the biggest idiots.
Germany burnt french churches in 1940. So Mel Gibson had an uproar and said "IT WAS THE BRITISH!" because he's a dirty person who needs to be Killed.
I think Cromwell should put HIS head on a pike. Fucking Medieval scot bastard, still believing Britain = British Empire.
Britain = United Kingdom/Commonwealth.
WolfytheWolf5667 11 months ago
its the burn the church guy
garciaalvin3 1 year ago
Strange thing is, this movie was made by a German.
RoundenBrown 1 year ago
Wilkins should have been careful of what he says cuz it can mean something totally different YAY! Jason Isaacs
MalevolentAbsol 1 year ago
Wow... This movie is a fiction movie... noone said it was true
11Ferf 1 year ago
Never happened you bullshitting yanks.
Trying to associate British Redcoats with the 2nd SS Panzer DIvision's burning of the Church at Oradouar in FRance in 1944 is a lie.
GrandPrix55 1 year ago
Yeah this happened in 1940 when the Nazi's burn't some French in chruches. This never happened during this period. Yet again this is Hollywood lying to its hearts content.
SeigeCJ 1 year ago
poor adam baldwin...
KylerOrange 2 years ago
Jason Isaacs is yummy in this movie... O.O
Yumeilli 2 years ago
Yeah! Burn the traitorous colonials!
miumii 2 years ago
This is a good movie. Watching it in Social Studies. Unfortuantely they had to fast forward this scene.
ilovsaw 2 years ago
really how come?
KATROSE92 2 years ago
@KATROSE92 I guess because it was deemed to be too...upsetting and disturbing to show to 12 year olds.
ilovsaw 2 years ago
Jason Isaacs shoud have won an Oscar for this, he was great in this.
Cristalship88 2 years ago 9
FUCKING LEGEND
MrThompson117 2 years ago 4
Why didn't that guy just keep on refusing? Right after he said "There's no honor in this." He should have known how innocent those people were.
rudypen1216 2 years ago 3
if he hadnt throne the touch he would of been shot
MegaZerotohero 2 years ago 3
Awesome, the Nazi slave owners got what they deserved!
PrydainFawr 2 years ago
Nazi slave owners? What Nazi slave owners?
bmf1706 2 years ago
"But I thought you said we may be forgiven!"
"Indeed you may... but that is between you and God."
Pity that part isnt included. Still a powerful scene though.
yourmom666 2 years ago 32
''All those who Stand against england deserve to die a Traiters Death!''
lHoodlum 2 years ago 25
good luck with that
warmachine778 2 years ago
punkass hoodlum..
irish89055 2 years ago
irish.. lol your not even irish!
lHoodlum 2 years ago
@lHoodlum Good thing the British back then knew how to spell. I dread to think of how they would take your maiming of their language.
TheGeekyNinjaStudios 11 months ago
@lHoodlum I stand against an English empire. Come kill me.
HaggenPagan26 8 months ago
@HaggenPagan26 Tough guy..ohhh im scared
biggrigga 7 months ago
@biggrigga Just sayin
HaggenPagan26 7 months ago